April 20, 2023 • 11 mins
Someone sent Bethenny an email by accident talking bad…about her! What could go wrong?! Or should we say…what did? Find out!
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Let's talk about TikTok and it's trial, Okay. So first
of all, TikTok is a different world. I've talked about
this before. It's a different land. It is a different
world than Instagram, and people on Instagram think people are
fucking nuts for being on TikTok. So TikTok is a
(00:32):
world and a planet onto its own. There are people
that are famous there that are famous nowhere else. There
are people that have created a life there that have
a life nowhere else. There are people that will talk
all day just about ms bags and they're Chanelle purchases
and are TikTok famous and get stopped on the street.
There are people that will be known just for eating
you know, dried anchovies on TikTok, and they're famous for that.
(00:54):
It's very strange, it's very interesting, it's very entertaining, but
it's definitely not the real world. That being said, Charlie
Dmilio has one hundred and fifty million followers and lived
in a modest house in Connecticut and supported her whole
entire family and bought a big, multimillion dollar house. So
the money's real. The money's real with these influencers and
(01:14):
they're scared shitless that TikTok's going to go away because
Congress is trying to ban TikTok, and it very well
could happen. The CEO of TikTok went to Congress. He's smart,
he's savvy, he creatively answered questions. He's a polished looking man.
And because people were terrified and scared shitless, the TikTok
(01:36):
was going to go away. Everybody who in the past
has complained about the algorithm and all of a sudden
this week, my views aren't being aren't up. No, and
seeing my videos, I've been shadow band. Same people that
have been shadow band, The same people that said that
the TikTok Creator program, if they've entered it, then their
views were down. The same people that you know speaking
(01:59):
hush tones and you code words to talk about fake
bags and they call it the gate. The same people
that call it like tt instead of TikTok because they
don't want it to be shadow band like they're afraid.
And these are the same people. And some of the
big influencers that have over a million followers reached out
to me when my content was stolen used to sell
counterfeit merchandise. On TikTok for over a week. I pleaded
(02:24):
with them, I emailed them, nothing happened. I then filed
a suit, which has not been resolved and we're still
in the process. But I sued TikTok because my property
was stolen from me, my name and my likeness, my
reputation was damaged. People thought that I was endorsing products. Great.
These same people are the people that are now crying
(02:45):
and trashing Congress and saying we're not leaving, We're not
going to Instagram. And these same people are freaking out
because they realized they've developed this level of fame based
on button organizing and seaweed eating, and there's no other
place that they're gonna be so micro famous and relevant.
They're not gonna get paid this amount, They're not going
to be the same level of influence. Or maybe you too,
(03:07):
but there's just nothing like TikTok, and so they're all
freaking out. And the guy and I really and I
talk about these things, and there's a difference, a marked,
massive difference in the views on TikTok since this congress hearing.
Since these congressional hearings, it has been reported and confirmed
(03:27):
by TikTok that they pushed through videos that they like
and that they want to push through. They push through
creators that they like and they want to push through.
You see certain creators getting millions of views for drooling
and other people doing amazing stuff and no one seeing it.
I have people that actually follow me that tell me
that they don't see my videos and they follow me.
(03:48):
So since since the congressional hearings, TikTok is on their
best behavior. They're trying to prove to Congress that they're
not what Congress said they are, because by the way,
the people in congres can barely pronounced TikTok, and they
seem like a bunch of old fogies telling the kids
to turn the music down, like it's the worst representation
(04:09):
to go up against something that the gen z ers love.
It's the worst because it's just it's just like the
cool kids and the old farts. But there's a lot
to be said for this dynamic because TikTok is watching,
(04:29):
and TikTok's views have drastically changed since this hearing, so
something is definitely going on. I've definitely been shadow band.
I've spoken about certain people, certain families, and then immediately
my next video gets like forty views. Like I have
seen fucked up stuff happen on there where you've definitely
been put in the corner, like the corner, and your views,
(04:50):
your videos aren't being seen. I've seen people get on
and say, what the fuck is going on with the views?
I'm on strike. It's crazy. It is the wild, wild West.
So I underst dan why these kids are willing to say, fine,
take my information, spy on me. I don't care because
I'm now famous for talking about Chanel belts. But for others,
(05:12):
it's a scary proposition to be in this world that
other people over on Instagram and other people that I
know in the entertainment industry, they're like, I'm not fucking
going on TikTok. It's frightening over there. So it's definitely
multiple things going on in different worlds and brands. While
they like TikTok to promote and sell out, they're also
fucking terrified of TikTok. It is a rollercoaster of emotions
(05:35):
over there. When's the last time he sent an accidental
email or text? You know, or you ever put you
ever talk and you see that it's like putting the
(05:56):
words into your text. Imagine if it got sent. So
I am a client somewhere that I pay a good
amount of money per year, and someone in an office
said something snarky about me, and they accidentally sent the
email to Paul. And it was interesting because this particular situation.
(06:25):
I'm trying to give you a really I want to
give you a really exact analogy. Okay, Let's say that
you were getting a nose job and you sent to
the billing person at the plastic surgeon an email saying,
let's say they sent you a bill and you said
(06:47):
to them, why don't you send that bill? Can you
send that bill to Paul? Pretend Paul was paying or
your husband. You're telling the office if they can send
the bill to your husband, because your husband either pays
the bills or does the finances or needs to know something.
So I did that, and the snarky email that was
(07:10):
an inter office email, basically said why is she asking
us to send it? She's laying in bed with him
shaking my smh, Like, oh my god, just send it yourself.
They said that to each other. Now here's the interesting thing.
If I have something going on, like I have an accountant,
(07:30):
for example, and I'll send them any bill that comes
through from Britain's school, any landscaper, et cetera. So I
make sure it's all in one place. So it was
totally like something normal that I would be doing. But
this person just was, I guess, in a bad mood
that day or meaning there are fifty shades of great.
Years ago, I was producing an event for Sundance and
a girl she sent an email to someone she worked
(07:52):
with because it was so many details about this event,
and she said I'm so over her, which was about me,
and I responded, I'm so over me also because I
was over me and a thousand emails about this event,
and like, I got it. This one was literally like
calling your doctor to ask why you you know, why
you have a growth on your back? Like it was
doing exactly what I was supposed to be doing. So imagine.
(08:14):
So Paul didn't Paul got the email because he was
se seated on it, and he didn't tell me till
the next day because he knew I wouldn't sleep. I
was freaking out. Was weird? Was I was thinking more
about the person, like, oh my god, they must be
freaking out and the next and I sent an email
back and said, I just want to understand what would
(08:36):
provoke that email in any situation. But more importantly, do
you guys have a company policy to not trash your
own clients internally and externally? Which provoked me to say
something to my staff to say, don't put anything in writing,
like even loll or meh or ugh or any of
(08:58):
that stuff everyone does, everyone says, like their commentary. There
was somebody who asked me to do some event that
I would never normally do, or someone asks me to
go to something, you know, like do you want to
come do this appearance? And maybe for them it's a
really big deal and they think it's something that they
would really want me to do, but maybe for me,
I think it's not something that I would do. So
I would sometimes respond to my team be like, yeah,
(09:20):
pass or something that maybe hurt somebody's feelings, even though
pass is just basic. But just think about the words
you're using internally and externally, like anything in writing could
be seen by somebody else. And I was like cool
about it, totally cool about it, because accidents can happen,
(09:42):
and it really wasn't great, and but the it went
up to the top of that company not having anything
to do with me. I'm not the person that's going
to go like call the manager and mess around with
someone's livelihood. That's not me. But this is a business
that's very in the service business, and they are trying
to tech their clients because people are public people that
(10:04):
they work with, and it's just not a great practice.
So it doesn't matter whether you're not a public person
or you are. It's just a good practice to get
into to really understand that anything on that's that's texted
or emailed or recorded or left on a message thank
you Alec Baldwin with that message years ago to his
daughter can be used. And I say, it's a brin
all the time. Don't put anything in writing at all
(10:25):
like that. You would not want to be on the
louds keeper's loud speaker at school. So it got run
up the front flagpole. I have not asked about it
anymore because it's not my business anymore. And I don't,
you know, necessarily want need to work with this person
because they have such a hostile feeling towards me about
something that was so basic. And like I said, I'm
the first one to admit I can be a pain
(10:45):
in the ass, I can be abrupt, I'm straightforward, all
of that. The whole the whole message is you got
to you gotta keep your inside voice inside, particularly when
it's in writing and in text. You can't write your
laws and your ugh your mes and all that stuff
because it could be taken out of context by somebody
(11:05):
else or in context. And if you're in the service business,
you can't be in the business of talking badly about
the people you serve to other people internally or externally.
It's just not a good practice.
Let's talk about TikTok and it's trial, Okay. So first
of all, TikTok is a different world. I've talked about
this before. It's a different land. It is a different
world than Instagram, and people on Instagram think people are
fucking nuts for being on TikTok. So TikTok is a
(00:32):
world and a planet onto its own. There are people
that are famous there that are famous nowhere else. There
are people that have created a life there that have
a life nowhere else. There are people that will talk
all day just about ms bags and they're Chanelle purchases
and are TikTok famous and get stopped on the street.
There are people that will be known just for eating
you know, dried anchovies on TikTok, and they're famous for that.
(00:54):
It's very strange, it's very interesting, it's very entertaining, but
it's definitely not the real world. That being said, Charlie
Dmilio has one hundred and fifty million followers and lived
in a modest house in Connecticut and supported her whole
entire family and bought a big, multimillion dollar house. So
the money's real. The money's real with these influencers and
(01:14):
they're scared shitless that TikTok's going to go away because
Congress is trying to ban TikTok, and it very well
could happen. The CEO of TikTok went to Congress. He's smart,
he's savvy, he creatively answered questions. He's a polished looking man.
And because people were terrified and scared shitless, the TikTok
(01:36):
was going to go away. Everybody who in the past
has complained about the algorithm and all of a sudden
this week, my views aren't being aren't up. No, and
seeing my videos, I've been shadow band. Same people that
have been shadow band, The same people that said that
the TikTok Creator program, if they've entered it, then their
views were down. The same people that you know speaking
(01:59):
hush tones and you code words to talk about fake
bags and they call it the gate. The same people
that call it like tt instead of TikTok because they
don't want it to be shadow band like they're afraid.
And these are the same people. And some of the
big influencers that have over a million followers reached out
to me when my content was stolen used to sell
counterfeit merchandise. On TikTok for over a week. I pleaded
(02:24):
with them, I emailed them, nothing happened. I then filed
a suit, which has not been resolved and we're still
in the process. But I sued TikTok because my property
was stolen from me, my name and my likeness, my
reputation was damaged. People thought that I was endorsing products. Great.
These same people are the people that are now crying
(02:45):
and trashing Congress and saying we're not leaving, We're not
going to Instagram. And these same people are freaking out
because they realized they've developed this level of fame based
on button organizing and seaweed eating, and there's no other
place that they're gonna be so micro famous and relevant.
They're not gonna get paid this amount, They're not going
to be the same level of influence. Or maybe you too,
(03:07):
but there's just nothing like TikTok, and so they're all
freaking out. And the guy and I really and I
talk about these things, and there's a difference, a marked,
massive difference in the views on TikTok since this congress hearing.
Since these congressional hearings, it has been reported and confirmed
(03:27):
by TikTok that they pushed through videos that they like
and that they want to push through. They push through
creators that they like and they want to push through.
You see certain creators getting millions of views for drooling
and other people doing amazing stuff and no one seeing it.
I have people that actually follow me that tell me
that they don't see my videos and they follow me.
(03:48):
So since since the congressional hearings, TikTok is on their
best behavior. They're trying to prove to Congress that they're
not what Congress said they are, because by the way,
the people in congres can barely pronounced TikTok, and they
seem like a bunch of old fogies telling the kids
to turn the music down, like it's the worst representation
(04:09):
to go up against something that the gen z ers love.
It's the worst because it's just it's just like the
cool kids and the old farts. But there's a lot
to be said for this dynamic because TikTok is watching,
(04:29):
and TikTok's views have drastically changed since this hearing, so
something is definitely going on. I've definitely been shadow band.
I've spoken about certain people, certain families, and then immediately
my next video gets like forty views. Like I have
seen fucked up stuff happen on there where you've definitely
been put in the corner, like the corner, and your views,
(04:50):
your videos aren't being seen. I've seen people get on
and say, what the fuck is going on with the views?
I'm on strike. It's crazy. It is the wild, wild West.
So I underst dan why these kids are willing to say, fine,
take my information, spy on me. I don't care because
I'm now famous for talking about Chanel belts. But for others,
(05:12):
it's a scary proposition to be in this world that
other people over on Instagram and other people that I
know in the entertainment industry, they're like, I'm not fucking
going on TikTok. It's frightening over there. So it's definitely
multiple things going on in different worlds and brands. While
they like TikTok to promote and sell out, they're also
fucking terrified of TikTok. It is a rollercoaster of emotions
(05:35):
over there. When's the last time he sent an accidental
email or text? You know, or you ever put you
ever talk and you see that it's like putting the
(05:56):
words into your text. Imagine if it got sent. So
I am a client somewhere that I pay a good
amount of money per year, and someone in an office
said something snarky about me, and they accidentally sent the
email to Paul. And it was interesting because this particular situation.
(06:25):
I'm trying to give you a really I want to
give you a really exact analogy. Okay, Let's say that
you were getting a nose job and you sent to
the billing person at the plastic surgeon an email saying,
let's say they sent you a bill and you said
(06:47):
to them, why don't you send that bill? Can you
send that bill to Paul? Pretend Paul was paying or
your husband. You're telling the office if they can send
the bill to your husband, because your husband either pays
the bills or does the finances or needs to know something.
So I did that, and the snarky email that was
(07:10):
an inter office email, basically said why is she asking
us to send it? She's laying in bed with him
shaking my smh, Like, oh my god, just send it yourself.
They said that to each other. Now here's the interesting thing.
If I have something going on, like I have an accountant,
(07:30):
for example, and I'll send them any bill that comes
through from Britain's school, any landscaper, et cetera. So I
make sure it's all in one place. So it was
totally like something normal that I would be doing. But
this person just was, I guess, in a bad mood
that day or meaning there are fifty shades of great.
Years ago, I was producing an event for Sundance and
a girl she sent an email to someone she worked
(07:52):
with because it was so many details about this event,
and she said I'm so over her, which was about me,
and I responded, I'm so over me also because I
was over me and a thousand emails about this event,
and like, I got it. This one was literally like
calling your doctor to ask why you you know, why
you have a growth on your back? Like it was
doing exactly what I was supposed to be doing. So imagine.
(08:14):
So Paul didn't Paul got the email because he was
se seated on it, and he didn't tell me till
the next day because he knew I wouldn't sleep. I
was freaking out. Was weird? Was I was thinking more
about the person, like, oh my god, they must be
freaking out and the next and I sent an email
back and said, I just want to understand what would
(08:36):
provoke that email in any situation. But more importantly, do
you guys have a company policy to not trash your
own clients internally and externally? Which provoked me to say
something to my staff to say, don't put anything in writing,
like even loll or meh or ugh or any of
(08:58):
that stuff everyone does, everyone says, like their commentary. There
was somebody who asked me to do some event that
I would never normally do, or someone asks me to
go to something, you know, like do you want to
come do this appearance? And maybe for them it's a
really big deal and they think it's something that they
would really want me to do, but maybe for me,
I think it's not something that I would do. So
I would sometimes respond to my team be like, yeah,
(09:20):
pass or something that maybe hurt somebody's feelings, even though
pass is just basic. But just think about the words
you're using internally and externally, like anything in writing could
be seen by somebody else. And I was like cool
about it, totally cool about it, because accidents can happen,
(09:42):
and it really wasn't great, and but the it went
up to the top of that company not having anything
to do with me. I'm not the person that's going
to go like call the manager and mess around with
someone's livelihood. That's not me. But this is a business
that's very in the service business, and they are trying
to tech their clients because people are public people that
(10:04):
they work with, and it's just not a great practice.
So it doesn't matter whether you're not a public person
or you are. It's just a good practice to get
into to really understand that anything on that's that's texted
or emailed or recorded or left on a message thank
you Alec Baldwin with that message years ago to his
daughter can be used. And I say, it's a brin
all the time. Don't put anything in writing at all
(10:25):
like that. You would not want to be on the
louds keeper's loud speaker at school. So it got run
up the front flagpole. I have not asked about it
anymore because it's not my business anymore. And I don't,
you know, necessarily want need to work with this person
because they have such a hostile feeling towards me about
something that was so basic. And like I said, I'm
the first one to admit I can be a pain
(10:45):
in the ass, I can be abrupt, I'm straightforward, all
of that. The whole the whole message is you got
to you gotta keep your inside voice inside, particularly when
it's in writing and in text. You can't write your
laws and your ugh your mes and all that stuff
because it could be taken out of context by somebody
(11:05):
else or in context. And if you're in the service business,
you can't be in the business of talking badly about
the people you serve to other people internally or externally.
It's just not a good practice.
Host
Bethenny Frankel
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