"I Dunno, Man..." (w/ Reneé Rapp & Alyah Chanelle Scott)

Grab the rabbit and the beaujolais, boo. After a meeting in Miami that fortunately did *not* end in a confrontation at a Hertz, Matt & Bow have invited the luminous and talented Reneé Rapp & Alyah Chanelle Scott from HBO Max's The Sex Lives of College Girls to laugh, gab and snarl with them on Las Cultch and chat about bringing "I Dunno, Man..." energy to daddy HBO, their friendship origin story at a Residence Inn, the imperious "mothers" of the Charlotte high school theater scene, the Jimmy Awards, anger, being the therapist amongst a friend group, and calling the people you love little names tehe. Also, Alyah attended Beyoncé's Dubai concert and shares details, Reneé discusses an awakening she had watching Teresa Giudice flipping a table on The Real Housewives of New Jersey and the girls tell tales of throwing hands for one another. All this, The Last of Us, Reneé's new EP Everything to Everyone, Extreme Makeover: Home Edition, Wicked vs. Avenue Q, Kenya Moore and That French Bitch At Customs. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look man, oh, I see you? Why and look over there?
How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, last culture calling in.
I think we have a new youthhemism for a gay
man go, which is someone who knows how to pair

(00:21):
rabbit with bojoli. Oh my god, you must be fresh
from the fight, because let me tell you something. Let
me tell you what I did not think was going
to happen this morning, This Monday, January, the day before
Katrina Rodgers is goddamn birthday. Okay, so happy birthday. Mother
comes out on Wednesday. You will be a year older
and we celebrate you. Thank you, Katrina, Thank you Katrina.

(00:44):
But stepping aside from that, I did not think this
morning i'd wake up to Twitter dot com with every
queer person screaming, sobbing in a state because of this
zombie show, The Last of Us, which I had heard.
I had to be watching the show. Hold on home,
what is it? Go ahead? Set the scene and why
we're crying. It is based off of the seminal video

(01:06):
game The Last of Us, which has been described as
a citizen Kane of video games, acheating heights of storytelling.
It's Rosebud that's on a zombie story because these are
not zombies. What would you call those girls? Then running
around trying to kill infected Court accepts fungally infected freaks clickers,
the fungally challenge. You'll see you saw some clickers at

(01:28):
the end of episode two. You're gonna like that at all?
And I won't be watching the show only when there's
a queer love story at the center of that Twitter
dot com yells. I mean, I absolutely have to watch,
but other than that, it's gonna be and I don't
think so, honey. I believe they said, did you watch
this independent of the first two episodes? I had sort
of done the cursory skimming of the first two episodes

(01:51):
to know what I needed to know. Our guests are
like buzzing, giggling on mute. We're gonna bring them in
a second. We're gonna bring them in a second. But
I have to tell you watching this third episode out
of the Last of Us, which started in very much
a bottle episode fashion, and we love a bottle episode.
It's actually recal you number nine. We love the bottle episode.
So these two actors, Marie Bartlett and Nick Offerman, gave

(02:14):
us sort of a gorgeous gorgeous tale of these two
men living in this dystopian society, and it covers many
decay up gay away from her. It was getting gay
away from her and what's an iconic reference. Both good
for you and I have to say, I've been sobbing
all morning. You need to brush up on the Lord.

(02:36):
This is truly an important piece of television. It was
so beautiful. My confession is that I'm still You begged
me to what I was going to save it for
the plane, right for the flight back to New York,
and I still have twenty minutes left, but the sad
thing has already happened. Oh I'm sobbing. I'm a mess,
And thank god I had the palate cleanser of the

(02:56):
show that our two guests are. Let's just say on,
let's just say they're on this television program renewed for
season three, The Sex Lives of College Girls. We love
to see some shows out there getting renewed waits. Sometimes
they don't have to be our own shows. Sometimes it

(03:18):
doesn't even have to be on our own show that
gets renewed. To be happy, sometimes you can be in
a state of what the fund is happening with the
show that I'm on, you know what I mean. And
to know that other girls out there are getting renewed,
it's beautiful. This show deserves renewal. Do you know what
I'm saying. This show is an iconic show that honestly, like,
I hope goes ten seasons because I'm seeing myself in

(03:41):
the show. That's what I'm saying. I'm men that you
just heard a voice. We met these two girls in Miami, Florida,
Rhonda Santis Country of all places, and it was truly Matt,
do you agree with us? We were at Miley and
Dollies New Year's party, so fun. You had your fucking

(04:05):
Mercy Thomas, your Paris Hilton's, You're There was a lot
of star Wars. There was the star wat was through
the roof, out of control. But when I saw our
guests from across the way, first of all, these two people,
I'm like, there are people that I'm like, I'm not
going to take a picture with them. I'm not going
to take a picture with them. I need them to
think that we're cool. You wanted to express being cool.

(04:27):
I want them to think we're cool. I want to
potentially be friends with them, even sometime in the near future.
I don't want to screw this up. I'm sort of
less like that. I'm sort of like ambling over to
the bar, being like, we're gonna say hi, and you're
sort of like no. This reminds me of the iconic
time we saw Meredith Marks at the red carpet of
the Fire Island premiere and I left the carpet' gonna

(04:48):
say hello to Meredith Marks And I said, bow and
get over here, and you said, I'm too scared. I
was too scared. I was too scared to go talk
to Meredith. And now you struck up a lifelong friendship
with her. Listen, roll out the red carpet for the friends, Jip.
You guys hung out at sun Dance. Oh my god,
we have to talk about Sunday. Kind of mentioned Sundance.
I saw a Meredith Sundance. It's not as exciting as
you saw Seth at Sundance. I rallied with Seth Marks

(05:09):
at Sundance. Okay, Seth Marks. Can we just say Seth
Marks's favorite film? Fire? He said, He laughed, he cried,
he was getting down with it. He said. It was
amazing to sort of get to know the culture, and
he was screaming and Meredith Marks's boutique in Park City
how much he loved Fire Island and I was receptive
and I will continue to be receptive. And then his

(05:33):
hand flicked. Can I just about your introduction or you're
walking up to your name at Miami is like now
one of our friend groups, Like, it's our bit. It's
our bit because I said to me, and it was

(05:54):
so funny, it was hot. It goes like, no, not here,
not right now. You said that about funny. I'm not here,
I'm not right now, and and was I wrong? You're
you're absolutely no. But but the thing was it had

(06:16):
to be right here, right now, and then it was.
And it was gorgeous because when we told y'all that
a scala was there, we saw you light up because
you understood what it meant for a scala to be there.
And that's sister, huge night. But we have to introduce formula, okay,
because that's it's getting too loose. Our guests are on

(06:37):
the sex slights of college girls. Between them, they share
so many credits Jimmy Award Winners reboots with Rachel Bloom
period period. Hello, these are stars and they play wealthy
girls that are sympathetic and likable. Very hard to pull
off and not for nothing. But vocalists, vocalists hear me

(06:58):
when I say it, Boca lists, and we're gonna get it.
We're gonna get into it a little something like like
if you want to harmonize on three, like one to three. Yeah, sorry,
I just wanted to get out. You just had to
let everyone know what we're dealing with. Yeah, so if

(07:19):
you didn't know, now you know, and you must simply
welcome our guests today. Welcome to the arena. These two
they showed up. They're giving like what that's how you
clap like without making noise. We're feeling amazing today. We

(07:44):
are feeling amazing. We're the world to be here. We
love you both. We're just so you said you're in bus.
Do we like it? We love We're valley girls through
and three. We are real. Don't thinking about us. We
love parking. Okay, get at it. I am renne. Okay.
So we started Passenger here early title about I'm actually

(08:08):
not allowed to drive. Really basically everybody's like reviews, which
I think is we get homophobic. But that being said,
mommy parks well Valet because Park it's giving Laton. Yeah,
it's actually a lot of crossover. People aren't talking about it. Well,

(08:33):
that's what we're here to talk about. That's what we're
here to talk about, the things people don't talk about enough.
And Whitney being a good driver. It's also giving Whitney. Yeah,
it's on brand for sure. The dynamics are all thrown off.
At the end of season two, I have to say,
I mean we are thrust forward into a show that
I mean honestly, and also congrats on the renewal. That's
amazing and I honestly the show is a blast to watch.

(08:56):
It's so funny. I love like performance, very clear closeness
between you guys, Like it's really really fun. Is it
fun to do? It must be. I mean, look at
the two of you glowing. We don't well trust first
of all threats tell yeah, it's super fun. We also
just like get to hang out all day, which is ideal. Um. Yeah,

(09:21):
and we we just have a silly goofy time. We
really did you hang out in cute outfits? Your costume
designer is sorry, that was actually just as harmonizing. Again,
that didn't mean anything, No, no, yeah, that's true. Not
much true. Did y'all meet on the show. Yes, this

(09:46):
is really special because there is such an energy. I
can feel it through the screen. Girls. Don't lose that,
don't lose that. Don't lose that in this town. Don't
you lose that. We had many bits realizing the all
very visual. So I don't know, I don't know. I
don't read on the podcast, podcast our visual medium. We've
been we say podcast our visual medium. Okay, okay, so

(10:09):
they're kind of geting limp wristed, sort of fist up.
Is that queer girl power? I stand with your sister.
Someone's calling calling? Is it? Hollywood? Was another role? It
was God? It was God God. Yeah, he said, do
you need me? God? Is he? God? Is he? They

(10:29):
described what what was the first because Matt and I
remember the first moment of our friendship when we were
like wow, like who is this? Is there an indelible
memory for you to describe it? Wait? Two words? Okay,
one to three? Hotel? I was gonna say, Okay, so

(10:50):
there was a residence in, and the residence in is
a huge part of culture. I mean, we have all
stayed there. So when you say residents in, everyone listening
knows that exactly. We can see it, we can feel,
we can almost taste it. So what's happening? Fill in
the scene. The scene is he's like, Hey, do you
want to come over? Do you want to hang out?
And mind you, I'm a fan, right, I'm a Broadway girl,

(11:12):
throw and through, So I'm like, okay, great, let's do
it out. Not that I know that when I was
coming over to her hotel room, it was going to
be her crying for three hours and telling me every
traumatic thing that's ever happened to her. And that was

(11:32):
that was that. Yeah, it really was because also like
we were so we were in this hotel and this
was December and we're actually technically like we're breaking by
seeing each other. And I was so fucking scared to
be here. We both moved to l A for the show.
It was just like anxiety. So it was like a
new experience because you guys are it's like the first

(11:55):
big show for you guys, you know what I mean,
Like you're putting it out there in a major way
and like it was going to be a breakthrough and
you guys knew it because it's Mindy Kaling. It's like
big budget tbh, you know what I mean. There's a
lot going on at HBO Max like etcetera. So that's
like all happening. Yeah, and then there was also the
out of respect of like COVID, and those were like

(12:16):
getting canceled up in right SHOs, we're not happening, and
so we fully believe that we weren't actually even going
to make a show until we showed up, you know,
on day one, and they were putting us in costumes work. Okay,
I guess it is happening. Um, So there are a
lot of variables there. Yeah. Sure, the costumes what you love?
Obsessed with them? Jesus, Oh my god. If I could
knit anything, it would be a two we'd set girl.

(12:40):
I couldn't ye say it again but away though in
a way though, if you want to say it again,
please do but but but I would say that in
a way. Is this sort of a college experience for
you guys? I mean this is Rene's like full college experience.
This is like, yeah, I mean educated now. I said

(13:01):
this to you in Miami. But Joel can Booster, Brandon,
Scott Jones and I were at the Jimmy Awards that
Renee was at really was I'm sorry. Yeah, winner, it does.
It does kind of make you like an instant like

(13:22):
celebrity in the world of like Broadway theater. Though, wouldn't
you say it is so wild? It's a cult. I've
said it before. I'll say it again. It's a cult.
It's a cult. But do you draw a straight line
from Okay, so here you are this North Carolinian slay
as slay first of all, a tar heel through and through,

(13:45):
a tar heel through and through you. Jimmy it up.
You blank your mean girls, you blank, there's COVID, you
blank your on sex lives you meet Aliah. Yeah, that's amazing.
I believe in the unit birds. I believe in the universe,
and I think that somewhere along the lines, two people

(14:05):
were born, right, one of those people was born and
and the other one of those people was born in
the year two thousand, So you were two thousand and
you were Okay, So basically we're talking to people that
are the same age as Titanic, and like, what's a
two thousand film? It's that sort of Titanic crouching tiger

(14:32):
meeting that we all have that Yeah, what do you
mean what does that mean? I think it just really
sinks in to the soul for me. Do you want
to explain though? So what year is which that you're
talking about? This is gen z of it all. I'm

(14:54):
I'm cussed, I'm not, but you're but you're getting Z.
You ask because I thought I was in the Some
people were like, no, you're not. You're giving millennial and
I was like, what bad? But I don't know. No,
you're you're Z. But you're also a grandmother. Becca has
corrected us and said, I feel that you're so gen Z.

(15:16):
You just are like that's why, grandma. Yeah. But the
way Leah was talking to Doug was very gen Z,
being like, look, we don't have a microphone, we don't
have headphones like this is and it was. It was
the coolest thing I've ever seen. Take me, that's actually true.
No I didn't read it that way, No, no, no, no,

(15:36):
it was inspiring. I'm awestrack. Oh thanks, I can teach you.
Because Bowen and I asked millennials are big apologizers were like, sorry, sorry, sorry,
honest I was before I met Renee. Renee will walk
into anything and look at like the head exact of HB.
And be like, hey, bitch, what's up? And I'm like, oh, dear,

(15:57):
I understand or should just be like, oh dad, what's
going on? Yeah? It will serve you well, It will
serve you very well. Fun. It's fun, especially because like
I just like, I don't know, man, I think like
I don't know even that even that, you know what
I mean, even that what is that energy? And I

(16:18):
could never and Bowen could never Bowen and I could
never have I don't know man energy about someone in
a position of power, I don't know man energy is
a front runner for title of up at this point. Yeah,
here's the thing. Okay, if you like walk up to
like I don't know who is daddy of HBO, right,
but like whoever is daddy HBO? Like okay, you got

(16:42):
there and we can get here. Hey, girl, like playing field,
be realistic. What did you do this morning? You woke
up just the same as me. You woke up Stobs
to an episode of zombie television that he actually put
on the air. By the way, this is energy synergy. Yeah,
this is network's energy and we love it. So you

(17:13):
meet basically trauma bonding in a hotel room. Yeah, did
you sort of speak the language that Renee was speaking
when she was sobbing. Were you ready to receive that?
Are you sort of open to that? Astrologically? What's happening here? Oh? Interesting? Yeah?
Well I'm a cancer. I'm Capricorn. Yeah, so capricorn. You're right? Um,

(17:33):
And I am often the like therapist friends like, I'm
often and I encourage it. Honestly, I do, really do.
I do dig sometimes, but I'm the friend that's like
to tell me, what are you actually happy? Yeah, and
then we'll go in, Oh my god, but you take
care of you? Right? Well, who's taking care of you?
I have started going to pottery and that has been

(17:54):
my new way of taking care of myself. Although my
friends would disagree that that's not an actual thing. No,
I agree, I disagree, Yeah, I think it is an
actual thing. Macky on the other hand, literally, our friend Mackey,
he was also on College Girls, literally went up to
Alia talking about pottery and he was like, so, what
are you running from? Even see friends that you've been
in the pottery studio a lot, do you think you're

(18:15):
running from something? Me? But you're correct, he was right,
He was right. No, No, he's not and he's not
a good form of therapy. Also, I think you take
care of yourself super well. Thanks, I actually really do.
It's productive and creative. You're making something. Yeah, yeah, it's great.
And I can listen to law school treoths as well.
I do pottery stop it it's my favorite stop. That

(18:39):
I would be in the pottery like laughing to myself
and I realized, I'm like, I look like I'm I'm
cracking up at the wheel and like at the wheel
we are talking to the drug. Right, Well that's fucking huge. Okay,
So you meet because of the show. It's an instant
fast friendship because of a trauma. Well, I feel like

(19:00):
Layton's story in terms of her coming out journey is
like very death the way both of you were able
to perform that aspect of that time in your life
where someone's figuring out in identity and then another person
is present as a friend, like light touch but very powerful.

(19:22):
And then for Whitney, it's like fuck this girl like
got fully fucking like preyed upon or just taken advantage
of by this like fun up dynamic. Yeah. Yeah. The
thing that I like about it is that, like I
genuinely feel like we literally just show up. That's it. Um,
we literally just show them up and just like like

(19:46):
take things from like our friendship that could like kind
of tie into what we're doing, and just like put right,
like our storyline is kind of tied into our lives,
which I don't know if that's like intentional of the
writers being like oh I heard when they say that
she but like literally like that feels like when we'll
show up and get the table draft and be like, oh,

(20:07):
this is triggering Hunter, but in the best way, and
in a way that feels like we have enough space
from the trauma to like reenact it in a way
that feels you know what I mean, that feels like
it's a light touch enough, but also that we have
a friend there. So like if there's ever a day
we're like, we're having a tough time, which is very
rare because we're in a comedy. It's like not we're
not saving lives, um, But if there's ever a day

(20:29):
we're like, that was a lot, girl. I just like
look at a and we're you know, we're both there.
I have tough days often it has nothing to do
with the writing, but I have tough days and then
there yeah, that's fair. The way that everyone supports each
other as a unit, like that feels like my unit,
or it feels like and the conflicts are also like
I'm never like, oh, that friendship is doomed. I'm like, no,

(20:51):
you know what, like this is working as a unit
and they're having a moment. But it did get me
to think about like my own college experience and like
I don't think I have any friends from freshman year,
but do you have any friends from freshman year? Still? Um,
like I said, thirty two year old, I have friends
from like doing comedy obviously, but they were they were

(21:12):
upper classmen. No one from freshman year. No one really,
no one from freshman year. But wait yeah, yah is
completely like the opposite. Yeah really Yes, I went to
Michigan for musical theater, so that's just like that there, yes, there,
let's just drop that in the ether. Yeah. So there

(21:35):
was only twenty of us in the class in Michigan
at the time. Where I entered was still very like
an episode of Glee, Like you have the upper classman,
you have the juniors, like every class has a role,
and when you are freshman, you are nothing, you know
what I mean? So we all kind of like looking
to each other like, you know, should we be here,
Like what's going on? Um? And then we became sophomorees together,

(21:58):
and then we became you know what I mean, so
like we kind of enmed up the ranks of the Yeah,
that's like a totally different experience, experience, very specific and unique.
So I have a lot of friends for my freshman year.
So like one of our best friends I grew up
with doing theater. Caroline's weird, a weird sort of thing
that happened, which act how we were technically introduced to

(22:19):
each other. Yes, okay, let's I went to college with
a friend of mine who is now my producing partner.
His name is Thomas. We were classmates and then very
quickly he was like, oh, I'm not gonna be an actor.
I'm gonna be a producer. And I was like what
is that? Um? And went through the whole thing together
and then graduated and I booked college girls and enabled
to college girls, and weirdly he was like, oh hey,

(22:41):
he told Renee was like, Okay, my one of my
classmate's gonna be in your show. You're gonna love her.
And then he was up staying at my house in
l A while we were working on the show, and
I was like, Oh, Renee's gonna come over for dinner.
And I was like, oh, my friend Thomas is here.
She was like Thomas loud and I was like yeah.
And then the entire night they just like chatted about
high school like North Carolina and oh my gotten, which,

(23:02):
to be clear, let's talk about a cult that's I've
never been with more ship in my life than I
was in the Charlotte theater scene speaking out about it
and speaking out about it now because justice, O, God,
it's crazy. Is that the Tommy two Awards or No,

(23:22):
that's not, That's Houston. I guess I have questions about, like,
so when you refer to it as this like high octane,
intense thing like and the where you have put through
a lot, like I was always wondering, like how a
high school like funnels someone even into the Jimmy Awards.
Is that because it starts as a really intense atmosphere

(23:43):
like and those are like the people that we're seeing
at the Jimmy Awards who have been through like a
theater boot camp. In a way, I think it's all
over the place. The reason that Charlotte was so intense
for me. Specifically was the mother's literally there there were yeah, no,
and let's let's get into it. Okay, because let's get
into it. I was I was a you know, I

(24:03):
was a junior in high school and we were doing
this like musical and I had a friend come to
me and say that there were these three girls moms
who had a running group chat talking shit about me
coming to this school and being in the show. So
I was like, Okay, it's on, let's go. So basically
what happened was I transferred to this musical theater high

(24:25):
school because I knew a Broadway actor and an amazing
fucking being. Eva Nobles had gone Star Star Star, He
had gone to this high school, and so I wanted
to do the same thing because I didn't want to
go to college and I wanted to live in New
York and do me. So then the Jimmy's became a thing.

(24:47):
But yeah, theater's crazy. Yeah the moms, though, did moms
motivate anything? Is that how they fit into this? Like
I fucking sometimes moms can be the worst. I wish
you could see my face right now because I'm snarling
on the podcast. I wish you could see my um.
I don't know. Can we all just like take a moment,

(25:08):
because I know we all want to get this out.
We've all had tough mornings. We need to snarl, and
we all just let's just take three seconds to just
snow already go. That did something for me. I want
that felt good? Right? Feel better? My pulse is racing
and I don't know what I've heard Kimberly A Kimbell better.

(25:29):
Oh my god, the way it's been theater on theater.
We had Bonnie Milligan on last week. We have y'all
too now. They love her, incredible theater moms. I don't
know if it's that they motivated me. I think it's
that I was like, oh my god, not these like
forty plus year old women being mad at a teenager. Okay, bitch, fine,
come on. Because that's also when you get the idea

(25:49):
that just because someone is an adult and should know better,
they don't. And it's like that in the industry. It's
like that amongst people, and it's it's actually good and formative.
A smart team can look around and be like, oh,
I had that moment in high school. I'm sure that
we all have people readers listening. Are all like the
first time you realized that an adult was a funk

(26:10):
up and you in front of a train. That's a
big moment because, let me tell you, age doesn't mean
you're mature. Times you end up being the kid. We're
gonna at least some real trauma right now. So he's
going to ran it back in. We're pulling it out.

(26:31):
This is what both of you are giving right now.
I don't know, man, it's I don't know, man. Oh yeah,
it's so aspirational. I hear like, oh my god, who
is h's at at a girl? How are you coming
to the stage? I don't know, man. Wait, Okay, So

(26:52):
as we sort of transport back in time, I feel
it's appropriate to ask the question. Yes, it's appropriate. Are
we calling you yahya? Is not just a you guys.
It is the thing that Renee has made a thing. Yeah.
I'm not sure how I feel about it, to be
perfectly frank, Okay, So thank you for giving me a
platform I've never been asked. There is no bigger play
there there was no consent, and then there was never

(27:14):
consent to use yaya, no send me to be named
Telly Tubby, incredible friend and you and your identity has
changed and the shifted. Wait, Renee, are you the nickname friend,
because that's how I am with this one. Renee's the
mad alias Bowen. Yeah, it's a heavy burden, but just

(27:36):
so you know, it's joyful life. Rene my back, it's like,
oh my god, Like you know, sometimes I like say
nick names from other people though you do? Yeah, yeah,
I actually stole you stole that one, did, Yeah, from
my best friend from from the Sisterhood. That's a real
millennial joke. Yeah, that's the millennial joke now, and don't

(27:57):
worry about it anyway, don't worry. I loved it, Sisterhood.
I love the joke. I love the reference. I loved
And now there's multiple ones though, can I bring up
the other one? What's the other one? Yes? Oh yeah,
there's a little yet, yeh. I say, y'all, when you

(28:24):
love someone, you can call them anything that's not like me,
you know what I mean? When you love some one
like both Bowen will be bobis bobiseet. Sometimes he'll just
be another name like Cheryl or Lauren, and then sometimes
he'll be Ritaina, Trina. That's just my mom's name of Regina.
Something I like for about when is Collette. I love

(28:46):
to reard to bonas Collette's. Yeah, and so there's just
many different things you can call someone that you love.
We have a friend named Leanne who's my best one
from college, who we referred to as Vivian just because
you know, my good But when when we wake up
in the morning, I like some it depends on how

(29:06):
good we're feeling. Like. I'll usually like hit Leah, I'll
be like, good morning, my little muffin pussy princess. How
I'm like, let let's start go baby clean? So much? Yes, yes,
it truly communicates so many ideas, like what if Matt
text me and goes hi Grisha, I'm like, I know
what mood he is, g r e C I a

(29:29):
Grisa and I don't know that, but I know that. Yeah,
well you know, let's I want to like really like
comfiently for a second. You do know that, babe, I
know that I don't know that. Oh yeah, what was
the and this is this is a big moment. What

(29:51):
was the culture that made you say culture was for you?
It is your time to answer the question. Oh my gosh, Okay,
there were many things I'm trying to down. I I
really have thought about this a lot. Okay, there's two things.
The first thing, you know me. The first is extreme
makeover home edition. Move that bus. People lives were changed

(30:15):
because people don't say that, and that's a real culture.
That's really what was that again? When that bus moved,
people with lives were changed. I completely agree, could not
agree more. My life has changed when that bus moved
every single time, every time, and now that's how I
see the world. I'm like, oh, there's a problem. Just
move that bus. Yeah, just move that bus. Well, if

(30:37):
you do the work, you can move the bus. But
if you haven't done the work and you move the bus,
it's going to be the same image, the same old
shabby house. It takes a community, it takes a community
coming together, right. So that's the first thing that person
that can actually I'm sick. The second would be, um,
there's a mode that I was gifted when I was

(30:58):
ten and it was beyond says uh. The Beyonce Experience
live her performance on her birthday at what was formerly
known as a Staple Center in two thousand and seven.
That is like a two hour long, just full pro
shot of her concert. That's about seven costume changes in
there's a dream Girls section. Jay Z comes out, Michelle
and Kelly come out, like it just when I tell you,

(31:20):
ten year old me watched that on a loop maybe
once a week, impossitive. I remember this one because this
was this was when dream Girls was like just the
year before, and it was like a moment and it
was like, I remember she was referring to referring to
it at the time as the role of her career. Yes,
and he turned twenty six. Can you think about that?

(31:42):
And that just that made me who I am? I
think that's crazy? Yeah, I mean, that's that. The thing
about that era is that when it was truly leveling
up and we did not know how many times it would,
but that was like we've been calling her like the
greatest entertainer that's alive since even before that, like like
two six, it really started and then it was like

(32:07):
gets disrespected, disrespected? It does? It does The new discography
like kind of makes people think that the day is
not number one and they will always one, which is
they forget about ringing the alarm, they forget they forget
about freakum dress. They forget, they forget. Get me body,
Get me body body. Yeah, the extended version also the

(32:29):
one on on the live recorded like two thousand and
one year was that eleven? I think, Okay, I'm from Houston.
Beyonce is like my god, so I don't imagine that's
my thing. And I was in Dubai, but I won't
go into that. I won't speak on that for the record.
I was in Dubai. You you were in Dubai for
the performance I was, baby, you were in concert? Was there?

(32:56):
But you can you can't talk about it? No, I
mean it's controversy. What do you mean to talk about
it because of the controversial Okay, here's the deal here.
Of course, I thought we were going to mention all
on lost Coach. I guess not. I guess even gets afraid.
I guess. I guess you will never walk up to
HBO exact and say I don't know man, because you

(33:18):
couldn't even walk up too. I could do it. I could.
We'd be here all day, baby, strip away that come on.
Here's the deal, the no phones rule. I have a
theory about it, Okay. My theory is that there was

(33:38):
an intentional. What they gave you to put your phone
in was a zipper pouch, like a pencil pouch that
you would use in middle school. Right. There was no lock.
There was no yonder, no blue, no nothing. It was
a ziplock bag that said, hey, put your phone in
there for the show. Of course you're not going to
keep your it was it was it was to give
people talk. No, no, it was a fabric. It was
either the hotel was like leak it girl at a

(34:00):
press for us, or yourself was like this will be
good for because I'm not doing any renaissance babe, like
build up the hype for the tour. Both are so true.
It was when you will not be silenced. No, I'm
really glad that you're taking this opportunity. And that's all
I say about I didn't know there. I did not
know that. Yeah, there was. They had like a letter

(34:21):
in your rooms that said, like for tonight's VIP performance,
like please be your phone's way, and then on the
night you're sitting in like a restaurant dud. I was
the craziest experience in my life and I'll never forget.
It was just weird. Go put at a table at
dinner with Tassia the bachelorette for her mother. Like they
just paired us with two random people and it happened

(34:41):
to be Tasia and her mother. So imagine imagine being
me in center myself really quick. No, imagine the white
bisexual speak. I was, so, I'm in Europe and I'm

(35:01):
getting like real time updates from Leia and like every
now and again, like I would get updates, and I
was like, I wonder if I should call someone, like
if this is a call for help. But I knew
things were okay. When I got a video of Aliah
and Taitia, I was like, oh, yeah, anything I could

(35:24):
have ever met. It was so unbelievably fancy for no reason.
Like you're sitting at dinner, it's me, Thomas, Tashia and
her mother. A man walks up and he's like, I
will escort you to the performance now, and we're like, okay,
follow us. We follow this man through a quarter down
a hall. We're outside, we're inside, we're in an elevator,
we're up some stairs, like we don't know where we're going.
They hand us these like blue or pink pins that

(35:45):
we put on our lapels, and then a little bag
and they say put your phones away now, and they
walk us over and we're just sitting there. There's a
full stage obviously the phones have come out of the pouch,
like we're not right, but I have to make it
to the show my life Wow. And it was. It
was a great performance. It was incredible, and I personally

(36:07):
am such a fan that there was no renaissance, like
I want to see renaissance when I see Yeah, I agree,
agree saying I care, I want to hear. I want
to hear thank you. I want to thank you. And
she's not gonna sing like a queer ass motherfucking album
in du bob, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah,
she knew, she knew. And there's something about just seeing

(36:31):
that woman live truly, you are fucking floating above yourself
the entire damn time. How many times have you seen her? Like?
What was this in the grand scheme of like Beyonce
Live for You? This was for I'm refused in girls
like her album? Yeah no, no, no, Like how many

(36:52):
times I've seen that? I know, I know, but I'm
saying the same number as her album Also A second
to be Day for me? Actually before from it's Beyonce
self titled for and then I do. I am a
Lemonade fan like, but it gets hard because the thing
is like I love b Day, but does it does

(37:12):
exist to the bottom for me, not because any disrespect
to be there, but because our other work is so
fucking good. Wow, that's that's that's interesting. There's not a
disrespectful word. And what I said, you look for it
with the biggest magnifying glass and America disrespecting. No, I didn't. Okay,

(37:40):
before we ask Garna the question, congrats on this tour.
How has it been? These shows look incredible and of
course because the songs are stunning, Oh my god, it's
been so much fun. I kind of always have imagined
like what like live shows and performances in my body
of work would look like, but um, actually doing it

(38:02):
is a completely different fucking beast because A I like
overheat like really often, and I wasn't really thinking about that.
It was like a fashion over comfort like sort of
tour for me. A lot of trench coats, a lot
of sweater. Yeah, and like there was a sweater in Boston.
I know this isn't interact with the question, but like,

(38:24):
this is like a specific it's giving having been styled yes,
and the sweater in Boston actually blinded me and then
I started choking on it because it was it was
shedding and it was shedding, and I actually I was
like if I pass out right now, that I kind
of a moment, and so I kept going because I

(38:44):
would have been concerned dead on the stage. Didn't be dead?
How is she like own iconic post And this was
my moment, Like I was like, I have to pass out.
So I was like, let me keep going. But I
also has a live standing witnessing this happened. Yeah, I
was concerned. No, well, and then so I brought a

(39:05):
Leah up on stage with me because you know, at
the point, I'm like how much more can I go? Right?
And also would it be even cuntier if like I
pass out on stage and you witness my best friend
maybe watch me like potentially lose my life like you
would have cried upon? No, it was upon and a ploy.
I do agree that I do agree that if I

(39:27):
ever start to die, bow and should be there because
they can get it on tape and that can go
the other way. But it also would have been iconic.
Renee how do you like lost your life there on
stage and there's a moment of Aliyah sort of having
intense grief and then she goes over to the mic
and just goes, don't tell mamma, and to be clear, yeah,

(39:53):
starts acoustic and everyone's sort of like, oh my god.
Wait yeah, but also to because I also would have
left on the state like I would I would do.
It's given the last of us, Like it's like I

(40:15):
want to be there, you know, like put me in
a little coma. Oh my god. So anyway, you're slaying
the tour. The EP is fucking great. I mean Colorado is,
like I think, maybe my favorite. But that in Colorado
Bone came out from my show that I was doing
in Colorado and we were spending Colorado. We really were.

(40:38):
But what was the culture that made you were? N
raps aid culture was for you. I attribute so much
of my personality, my empathy, my lack thereof my cunt,
my obsessive everything is about me nature to this specifically
as a kid. Two moments for me, they're both going

(41:01):
to be housewives, franchise moment love and go off before
you go there, No, thank you again for giving me
the space, permission to go off the first big moment
because I, as a kid with anger issues, used to
throw a lot of ship and really, yeah, was everybody sure? Um?

(41:23):
Did anybody fight me back? Yeah? They did, Yeah they did.
So never forget where I was or how I felt
when Teresa Judy cha table, Yeah that was that was
the conversation in the rap household, the whole family talking
about it, the whole family, because it was like it
was a family there, like such a big moment because

(41:45):
I was like internally like young Renee is like wow,
that must have been such a relief, like unbridled physicalization
of your anger. Ala taught me unbridled and bridle. I
love when I hear it, no bridle, no zero briden.

(42:08):
And then the other one is madam okay keny more
and it's the twirl, It's the gone with the wind
facil It's always going to sit with me like that,
because again, these I understand, these are both like fighting moments.
I don't know what that is saying about me. I

(42:28):
don't know what it's not saying. I think it's more
like what's between the lines here. People were taking their space.
They were and hello, I was throwing things. Okay, she
said she was gone with the wind fibulars, and I
was like, you're so like ridiculous and also like really
anti what you're saying. Yet perfect and years later still

(42:51):
I think maybe the bar setter for maybe even what
it means to be a housewife. I would say Keny
Moore isn't top ten. I agree, she really has sucking
And I was, I wasn't like a super big like
Kenya person in the beginning because very specific, like I'm
like an o G person like when new people come
in and I'm like, yeah, yeah, she really ate speaking

(43:15):
of new people. And you're going we briefly touched on
the watch What Happens Live of it All where you
were sitting next to Mia fucking Thornton herself had to
give you your problem because and I actually I was.
I was on it like two weeks after you with Candy,
and I literally I meant to say on the show,

(43:35):
shout out to Renee rap who deserves an Emmy for
Best Guests in a Drama for her performance pretending that
she was down with me a Thornton's antics. Thank you
so much, because let me motherfucking tell you Okay, get
this is what I'm saying. This is your Dubai moment,
this is your The NBA has been removed. Girl. Hi,

(44:00):
so girl, I literally like when we were talking about
doing Housewives, that was like doing housewives, doing Watch what
Happens Life? Right, that was like my my dream the
whole life, Like there's for me. There's like a ego
to it, and the w is watch what it's and
so it's a go I'm sorry, type back out, I misspoke,

(44:24):
You're right. I really wanted to do it so bad
and they were like at first it was supposed to
be canvas Matt, and I was like, oh no, I
swear to god. I was like, well that's my bitch,
like done. Like also like hello, the music industry on
her shoulders, let's be really drive back. So the box

(44:46):
of the year, the record of the year. Hello, And
so I was like, okay, well, what's gonna be me?
And can't it is amazing? And then there was like
a change, there was a shift, a shift in the
fucking set well and then all of us like, oh,
well who is it and they're like it's me a
thor now like radio silence, radio science. I think I
forbade him said. I was like, there's no fun, but

(45:10):
because like I again, I'm very actually didn't say that yet,
but I'll bring it up again. I feel like I'm
very judgmental, especially the housewives, right, well that's kind of
part and Parcel I didn't die and breathe for these women,
and I don't fucking like her on the show, to

(45:30):
be clear, And so the whole night, I'm like, what
am I about to say? Because although I don't want
to disrespect you, like in a working environment, like I'm sure,
yeah I am, so I ask anybody one thing they'll
tell you about me is I'm rational. And we found
that out really when you were like we show up,
that's it. That's it there. And also this is something

(45:53):
that I said that actually was so true. And this
was like my recurring thing throughout the night, like this
is all I said in different fonts. I was like,
I love your kids. Yeah, yeah, so cute, and you
know what, not you didn't tell a lie. And I
will say the one thing and I even said that
I think bow When I was texting, I was like,
Renee Wrap is sort of slaying at sort of letting

(46:14):
us think maybe she's down with me because but I
knew intrinsically you can't be because I didn't. You didn't
seem to me like a crazy person. You don't know that. Also,
there's like there's like a part on the show where
like I was really trying to like be like chill
or whatever, and it doesn't cut to my face in
this moment. But she said on the show she basically

(46:36):
started like body shaming Robin, and I got I got
piste off. She said something about like she was like, well,
you know, Robin is built like Dada, And I was like,
remember she said this, like you just became scum of
the earth to me, bitch, she's all became. She's done. Beniah,
do you agree with this? Listen? I like PiZZ personally,

(46:59):
so not me. Not me. This also makes me the
renee because I was on there all week after being
like I was burning Robin's family fun party down, the
family fun party. Yeah, Like I understand you. It was
just so mean. I was like, that's just like, ah,
that was sucked up. It was probably sucked up in
my presence. I was like yeah. I was like yeah,

(47:23):
and you know what, they probably they probably knew they
were looking in the control and when they were like,
oh that pisted Renee off, don't cut to Renee also
like it also like t like it would have been
funnier if you catch me, I think, but absolutely looking
for comedy. He's got the reactions. These are all great
answers from both of you. I feel like there is
an interesting moment with these housewives, moments being sort of

(47:47):
anger centered. Can I ask what your relationship with anger
is now? Question? So I it's important because because I'll go,
I'll go. I was kind of I have like some
anger set for sure. There are shouting matches with the

(48:08):
family that would make your head spinet all three of you.
I get that, like truly, like I kind of don't
recognize myself and I get and Matt's seen me and
like you know, the Veneer crack, but like it's really
taken a lot of work to like fully move past.
I think I am mostly like beyond it. I don't know.

(48:31):
I can't like fully say that for myself, but I'm
curious about people who identify as having been angry maybe
in the past, and like how they have maybe progressed
from that if they want, if they would, like I'm
in the thick of it. I think so like my choice,
that's that's great, that's great. But yes, um, it's shifted

(48:53):
from the things that I get angry about. Right like
when I was a kid, I really really really frustrated,
and I like struggling a lot mentally, right and so like,
I have different areas of where my anger goes now.
My anger used to come like internally and then go externally.
Now I get an. This is also why Leah and
I are so good together. The story of it all

(49:16):
is going to be one of two things. One if
you disrespect someone I love, or you disrespect me, or
you think that you have any sort of agency over
my friend space or my space, you will you will
fucking hear about it. I don't care what space I'm in.
I don't care. Be it professional, be it familial, I don't.

(49:37):
I do not care. I love it, I love I
don't like. I don't like the sort of like, oh,
let's like keep it you know kosher here. Nope, that's
not working for me. So if that's the one way,
and Aliyah usually is, even if it's like, even if
it's something that has happened like to you or to
like one of our friends and like Elijah's like okay, okay,

(50:00):
like mother will send to me and bring me back down.
Now the b side of this, Elean, I like to
go out. We need to go out. Okay, when a
Lee and I go out, we do fight anyone I'm
having I'm talking to range, right, what fights, Let's go
to the range. Okay. There was an old woman in

(50:21):
oh she had a coming. She was in Chicago style,
she had a coming. Yeah, she was old Chicago. This
just happened to me. A Kimberly, a Kimbo Kimlia Kimbo.
The woman in front of me turned around. Me and
my friend Patrick were laughing because it was a funny,
fucking comedy musical comedy show. God for fucking bib and
she turns around and scolds us, and I honestly had

(50:42):
to like. It was a moment where I was like, look,
I understand there's like the respect your elders of it all,
but like, this is not tenable. This is not going
to be tenable in the world. I'm very publicly I
don't I don't respect your elders in me, neither any
sort of things surrounding me. You're done, So it ranges

(51:04):
from them. It's the moms. It's the moms. It's the moms.
That's what it is. Just became mother in that moment
with that therapy. Well was so mother now there, I
was sorry. I did not mean to cut you off
because these mothers didn't have it like you have it, Bowen.
No one's ever made that connection until right now. So
what the fuck? It's because Bowen is one of the

(51:26):
smartest women in America. That's so true. What I do,
Like Jackson Jordan herself, where are we going? Tonight's good series?
I couldn't remember. You said, what was it? Trina Truce?

(51:49):
Oh I love shar Truce, could be anything. Sharna cardamomu Sharna. Wait,
so the range is okay? There was an old woman. Yeahah,
she was just honestly, she just yeah, she was just right.
And just the girls at the club, you know what
I mean, like, oh my god, the girls at the

(52:10):
club that sometimes I don't have the patience that man
in Taco Bell in New York. Oh right, that's the club. Now, okay,
you're not talking about Canty. Another one in New York,
the one where you can get a cocky is Marisol
would say sure, a cocky, you know, like a cocktail.

(52:31):
What do you guys watch? You guys need to watch
with Miami. I don't want to talk to you guys.
I'm sorry. I don't think I can say I don't
like that cocky. You can't, my god, in my cock era,

(52:53):
if you're buying, you say cock you're not by No,
you're not by I actually by people don't say cop
You're so right, Thank you for bringing that up. I
want to come out right now. I want to come
out publicly. I want to come out as straight straight
no because you stay cough. Oh, I have a good thing.

(53:13):
They're going right, I know, I know. Back, I'm sorry.
I think it's just going to be that with zero
cock please, so that work straight with no car okay, okay, wait,

(53:34):
so you two like to go out, So then to
bring this full circle, you throw hands for each other.
You throw hands for each other, which I respect. I
would fight for Matt. I literally like, there's some guys
in bones life who if they ever if they ever
act away, they've acted in the past, They're going to
see Long Island pop all the way out. And when

(53:56):
I say Long Island pop all the way out, I
mean real male me. And then when it's about to
get physical, eyeback off. But you're just like immediately physical.
Oh my god, Nicky, I forgot about nick Well you
have time, it'll it'll come, Your chance will come. That's
gonna be her. I don't think so. Oh ship some

(54:17):
girl named went down in Miami tell us. Yeah, this
was not even We weren't out. We weren't We were
getting a car. We were getting a rental car. Mind
you at the Herb. Yeah, we were at the Herb. Yeah.
I want to Nicky. Nikki, if you're listening there, fucking
tune in. We're still not it. And I hope you

(54:40):
had a happy fucking New Year. So Nikki at the
Miami hurts something. One thing we've done on this podcast
many times is named people and their place of work. Yeah,
we have gotten for it. So just so Nikki at
the Miami hurts, how could she improve? No, they deserve this. Well,
there was an altercation that went on. There were quite
a few applications and we took different approaches. So different

(55:01):
here is our tactic as active. Okay, when one tactic
doesn't work, you choose another. Yeah, and you've got to
keep it going. So Nikki had a problem with the car.
We decided to drive often. She said, you can't take
that one. We said why, and she didn't really have
a reason. She had no real reason. She was just like, um,

(55:22):
that's not one that you can take. I said, that's
not gonna work for me. Girl. We're already in the car,
we're already pull we're trying to pull out. We're at
the gate. You know, all she've got to do is
press the button, lift the lever, and we're on our
merry way right. Yeah, she decides to halt traffic. There's
a line building up behind us. She said, I gotta
call my supervisor. You can't take the car. We decide

(55:44):
in that moment, literally with our friends, we decide, let's
employ every every pull every trick out of the bag.
Because also, I feel like most times, like I go
from zero to tend so quickly. And I was like,
I'm trying to be like a bit mature, like I'm
on a trip with my friends right now. Like I
was like, let me like until y'all are ready for
me to go, And that was the words that was used.

(56:05):
Renee was in the back seat. I was in the
front seat. Our friend Thomas was He's so he was
negotiating right like he was giving her, well, you know,
I have the receipt right here, like I've already paid
for the car. Just he was giving that. I decide
my attact is gonna be tears here. I'm gonna give
you cry. I'm gonna give you like this, mind you.
This is going on like fifteen minutes, and you know
it's like a long time. She's directed traffic around us

(56:28):
because she wants us to get out of this car.
All of our luggage is in the car. We are
in the car. So I decide, I'm gonna give you
so stressed out, like I just can't handle conflicts like whatever,
Renee in the backseat goes, just let me know when
you'll want me to go, and I'll go. That's all
that was said. And I look at her as nicky
As walked off to get her manager, and I was like,
all right, Renee go in that moment. Renee, she's impulsive,

(56:52):
but she's smart. She throws a hood over her head.
She said, I'm incognita. I was like, I was like,
Jama will not get me here, No, not today, not
in Miami. At the hurts Nonna like Renee wrappit the
hurts absolutely acting violence a non plays a non place,
and it was just that Renee hops out of the

(57:13):
car and I think with the breeze, like pops out
of the car. Within three seconds. All I remember was
Nicky saying, whoa, why are you pulling up on me?
And Renee said, I'm gonna pull him up on you, bitch,
and then my vision went black. I immediately was in
crisis mode. I thought, sure and this would be thrown
Nicky did. And then we got out. So this is

(57:35):
what happened. I said, why are you in their? Babe
outside going okay, you want to be in there? It
got really cut out of the park, was everything paperwork wise,
and we got the car. We got the car, and
then we went to Disney World. Oh my god, happy ending,

(57:56):
a literal happy ending at the happiest place on earth.
What was the favorite ride at Disney World of the Galaxy?
Bitch the way I just did it? Oh my god,
Oh my god. The Guardians. It used to be Avatar,
but she's she's not hitting the way she used to.
It's because now the Guardians, Cosmic Rewind is there, and
so how can you go do that and then go

(58:16):
to Avatar and like it hit the same it well
it will hit. So Bowen has not been down to
go to Epcot to go do the Guardians of the
Galaxy cosmic rewine, but we have had a very sort
of cathartic experience on a metric ton of edibles on
Avatar Flight of Passive. Me and it's ober okay. When
I first went, it's like right when they had first
opened it. Me and my friend Dylany, who you need

(58:37):
to meet, and we'll love to wake up at the
aspract John wait outside the gate, take like two full
like ten milli grand edibles and wait in the line.
At this point we were just like girls waiting in lines,
you know, like we used to do um and we're
in that line for like three hours. High as hell.
I've never been under my life, Right was everything? Did

(59:02):
you cry? I have a video off after and our
manager Olivia cried. It was so pretty that moment when
you sit in the cave, think about that an Avatar,
an Avatar flight of passage, you get in the cave,
there's a moment where you pull up into the cave

(59:23):
and you sort of sit in the cave, and there's
just a moment where you're on a Disney ride that's
supposed to do things, but you're just really, quite frankly,
just sitting in the cave. But you pulled up in
the cave and then you see Renee rapid Hood going,
I'm not pulling up on your bitch. It was the
height of the ride that was missing, screaming Nicky in

(59:44):
the cave, Nicky oh Man, Nicky's not Nikki? Why though,
I need to understand why why did you have to
become a villain on Lost Culture? It's worse than what
you have? What do you have to say? What do
you have to say? Leah, people hurt people? And Nikki
she was having a bad day and she projected I

(01:00:05):
have empathy now in space. I actually was likely projecting something.
I'm gonna say, this has been a long January. We've

(01:00:25):
really definitely been jerked out of There's been a lot
going on, and when it comes to venting, frustrations actually
come to the right place because we have a segment
for that and we have arrived at the time where
it's time to expel demons in one minute fashion. Bow,
I don't think so, honey, how would you describe it?
I can't do a better job than you just said.

(01:00:47):
It is a true exorcism. Your head is spinning, you
are croaking in a vocal fry, calling your mother the
worst things you can possibly call someone, while priest is,
you know, screaming, Well you're really you're going with the
exorcist thing. Well I heard you say expelled demons, and
I was like, yes, Linda Blair were like, Linda Fag,

(01:01:08):
all right, so let's listen. That's boone, Linda Fag. I
have something. I have something. This is Matt Rogers's I
don't think so, honey. His time starts it now, I
don't think so, honey. How the funk am I supposed
to eat mushrooms now after watching The Last of Us?
Because everyone's head becomes a fucking mushroom. And let me
tell you something, as someone who enjoys us mushroom with

(01:01:30):
a steak dinner, I love mushrooms. And now every time
I'm trying to eat a mushroom of the food varietal,
not consuming of the drug virietal, I'll be looking down
on my plate and I'll be seeing lush gushi zombie
villains from the Last of us also the last of
us in general. I don't think so, honey, that now
to be part of the not only cultural conversation, I

(01:01:51):
have to watch this zombie show that is scary, but
now to be part of queer discussion and discourse, I
have to watch this. I'm scared. I don't think so, honey.
Me ever, not being scared of a TV show lives
of college girls, I'm doing jump scares, honey. Sometimes one
of these guys will come out, one of these college
kids with the body of a thirty two year old

(01:02:12):
man in West Hollywood, and I'll be squooked. She's sucking
her neighbor. And the one I might excuse me that
is a Shawn Cordy poine store, not anyone at this
Ivy League college. I don't think so, honey. And that's
one minute. The theatus are all in West Hollywood, They're
all living in Hollywood each other. They look like Marvel superheroes,

(01:02:33):
and you know they're all from we he They all
be fucking each other and I want to see that
show too. Also, yeah, you rose awareness for something very
specific there that all all the men at this college
look like they're fifty. The important when you're doing a

(01:03:01):
high school or college show. I think too is it's
like in order for everyone to like, really, fuck you
got a cast thirty two year olds or else what.
This is one of the most sexless times in media.
And thank god for college girls for being out there
showing fucking It's as horny as I was. I used
to have to leave class to go jack off when

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I was in college. When I was a freshman in college,
i'd be in physical pain. Not any more, honey, now
that kids are yanking it in lectures in front of
the teacher ranking crank what your friend? Oh, there's whispering
each other's ears it mommy, okay, okay, god, oh my god.

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And every best friendship is one that's PR and and
they say, can we release this information? I think you're
a PR. It's just totally fine. I also like I
look up to these sort of of people like it's
like a it's like an idolizing thing. Our friends um
to the Eiffel Tower under the everybody that all the

(01:04:05):
time like they're secret night with me. Yeah, Like that's
kind of the biggest torus destinations in the world. People
come from far and wide to simply look at that
it's a fun right underneath it is an I d
G A F energy that is really aspirational. I don't know, man, yeah,
I don't know. Man. Let me guess they're hot. Yeah yeah,

(01:04:29):
yeah yeah. Anyway, I can't really eat mushrooms anymore. Um,
so that's why I don't think, so honey, Bowen, do
you have sort of one? I have one. I wonder
if it will resonate. It might just be specific to me. See,
I don't want to hear that insecurity, And the next
time that comes up, I want you to think, like,

(01:04:51):
why why do I have to voice that? You know
what I mean? Because it's yeah, yeah, this is I
don't think, so honey, and his time starts now, I
don't think so honey reply ying with the heart eyes
emoji and nothing else. What does it mean anymore? It's
lost it's meaning. If I'm getting a heart eye emoji
response to my stories, I can't tell if you're into it,

(01:05:12):
if you're into me, if you're trying to fuck, if
you're just being nice. It means nothing anymore. The meaning
has collapsed. I don't know what's being communicated anymore. When
it's if these are the modern hieroglyphs. Then this one
is fucking Anubis, okay, because I'm going, who's that? I

(01:05:34):
don't know her. I don't know that one. That's That's
how I'm feeling about the heart eyes emoji now whenever,
if you send me herd eys emoji, I'll go, that's
a Nubis to me. I don't know who that is.
I don't know what you're trying to tell me. I
just all to agree as a culture what sis emoji means,
regardless of context. I need it right now personally to

(01:05:56):
mean let's have sex. And that's one minute. I'm gonna
tell you what the emogis mean in response to stories
and girls. Let me know if you agree. Hard eyes
emoji means I love this. I think it's so cute
what you're doing. Like I'm in supportive in a positive way.
I'm here fire emoji. Flame emoji means or if someone
just says some of that, good friends do fire emogi

(01:06:17):
and I'm going, I don't know. The lines are being blurred.
You need to respond to them and say, hey, listen,
unless you're trying to suck me. Find a different emoji
hunt because when you flame my story to me it
means it's on to be honest, Like I feel like
I'm like, do I just mess with like aggressive people?
Because I don't really get emojis, nor do I send
like it's more like, let's do it. Where are you?

(01:06:40):
Where are you? Let's do it now? Do you use punctuation? No?
But I'm talking like I'm like people I don't know,
like I'm an emoji sender in a very like sarcastic way,
like I fend like sad face, like the hand up
all the time, like I do think emojis are sort
of the funniest thing. But wait, are you guys like

(01:07:02):
this is just a sidestep. I don't think I need
for a second, And I wonder are you guys like
people who sort of get flirting in the d M
s are you've sort of passed that? Now? One thing
about Rene Rapp, that is what her DM are for. Yeah,
like that's what my public platform is for. I've really
just like I don't I'm a flirtatious person. I think, Yeah,

(01:07:24):
like I flirt with me probably I've done it for years,
that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's nice and renew every
now and then I see you post some some d
M screenshots, you seem to return an unhinged fan d
M with the proper fervor and enthusiasm, and I really

(01:07:45):
respect this. I love to chat. I love to chat
because like even sometimes like if somebody says something like mean,
I want to go back. I want to go back, right,
let's talk about sucking stupid. I'm like, okay, and you
actually look like trash, so what I don't know. I
love a conversation. Also, like I think my grandma has
inspired me. She loves to talk to people on the
internet brow like she's obsessed. I used to do the

(01:08:10):
thing of like, um, when someone was nasty to me
in a message or a d M or whatever, I
would respond and be like, hey, I saw this, and
I could tell you didn't think I would respond now
that I have, can you explain why you did this?
And they literally like, oh my god, yeah, I don't
know why I did that, like sorry, I'm a fan,
like etcetera. And I'll be like, oh, interesting, But it's

(01:08:32):
never no one has ever doubled down. I've also like
done it to someone, like a couple of years ago,
there was an episode of the Bachelor. Oh it was
Claire's season. I don't know if anybody wants, but long
story short, there was a super super super fucking misogynistic
guy and I like fully by the way, I mean
like this was like probably like I was a public

(01:08:53):
person at this point, and I go into his things
and like, motherfucker, you don't deserve check that. And he
responded and I was like, and you so you doubled down.
I've been on both sides, Joni Mitchell. Respect, you've been
on both sides. Now what that was? That's and that

(01:09:16):
what are you just gonna say? And that's what makes
you cuspe? And it also just shows that we need
to come back in the cultural conversation in some way. Absolutely. Okay,
so Aaliyah, I think it might be time for your
I don't think so, honey. Oh god, I don't remember
gonna do it, but you can, Okay, Okay, Okay, this

(01:09:37):
is Elisha Nell Scott. I don't think so honey, her
time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Wicked losing
the two thousand four Tony Awards for Best and they
lost to I don't think so honey. They lost two
Avenue Queue so raised this puppet musical that have white
people in the theater running around singing Everybody's a little
bit racist. As an ingest fun gave them full permission

(01:10:03):
to look me in my eye and say, have a
new cue said, I said, hey wrote Avenue Cube Baby.
Although I do love white men with their freaking and
horatist character and and Gary Coleman over Wicked the musical
of the Center like Wicked. Yeah, we're talking a story

(01:10:23):
that actually truthfully racism about a girl overcoming their skin color.
We're talking about female friendship love. We're talking about and
you're gonna tell me that the silly racist puppet musical
is better. I think we should go back and right
that wrong as a community, as a people in the

(01:10:44):
in the theater, I think we need to fix that.
Thank you. That was brilliant. First of all that one minute,
Oh my god, I can't we have not talked about this,
everybody speaking about it like best musical Tony that it
is a piece of history that needs correcting. I think
we can change this if we can get a petition going,

(01:11:04):
if we can rally enough people. The Tony away from
Avenue to It really is so crazy and the thing is,
like you have to think maybe it's because they could
not have known that Wicked would have the impact that
it would have going forward, because had they, they would
have been like, oh, yeah, we're obviously going to celebrate
this revolutionary, iconic thing that is like changing the culture.

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I mean, I remember being in high school and like
all my girlfriends in high school were like listening to
that in their cars on the way to and fro school.
It was a culture shaker, right, my only thing. And
I love Adina the only thing. The only reason I
can think is that it was a hard sing it
times a week, and in truth they wore her out,
and maybe that for the rest of her life, rest

(01:11:49):
of her life, it was screaming, and maybe that if
you do go back and watch it's not it's not good.
If you go back and watch the Tony Award performance,
you know what I'm it's tough. It's a very hard

(01:12:09):
mountain to scale, is um and the girls have figured
it out now now we know that mixing is a
thing and we don't pull voice that And that was
just a different time, different era, And I mean I
could inter forgiving everything she had to it. I really do.
He's a better woman than me. I mean, the thing
about Adina is and we love Adina, and I've seen

(01:12:30):
on the stage. Now I go, I go see Ladina's plays.
I watch all of you, and I went to see
skin Tight. Then I saw If then and I thought, okay.
But literally all the televised performances of Adina, you can
tell she gets nervous because because it's literally it's she

(01:12:51):
obviously has the note. But I wonder if it's just
when something is on television she feels nervous and maybe
isn't breathing right, or like gets ahead of it, or
something happens where it started falls apart on television. But
you know, it's also it's it's a lot hard thing
to be clear. I could not do it. You totally.
You can't wait, thanks girl, I couldn't. I couldn't do that.

(01:13:13):
I can't wait to see Cynthia though. Okay, are you ready? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I knew it. This is Renee Raps. I don't think so, honey,
her time starts now. Hi, I don't think so, honey.
To that bitch at French customs, you still have me
been like two weeks later. Here's why I was doing fine.
I had all my bags, I had all everything ready

(01:13:33):
to go. When I was going into France. I was like,
I was like, let me have all of my information,
right okay. And I had to get like a special
little stand because I was technically working, well, I'm coming
out of France, okay, I'm going into London, and I
was working on how to get a little extra stamp
right like. She was like, do you know how long
you're here? And I said no, because I don't hold
that information. I go wherever everybody else goes. I'm not

(01:13:56):
a logistics person. We all know the shows on my face.
It's a very very clear to day bitch. Ok So
I was like, fine, we get into a little tuft
tiffed whatever, and she's immediately not sucking with me. And
then next I go to the conveyor belt. These two
girls are just next to each other the conveyor belt.
They're like, put your bags in here. I'm like, this
bag doesn't close. Put your bags in here. I'm like,
it doesn't close, it's going to fall out. They're like, okay,

(01:14:18):
put it in anyway, and I was like no. I
took the bag with me through and then started breaking
the funk out because I was like I fucking hate
French customs, and I've always been a little bit skeptical
of French people. I think I've seen too much. I
was like, let me just fucking give everybody the benefit

(01:14:41):
of the doubt. No, I actually didn't, because then a
bald man afterward tried to get in our fucking way
and apparently with yelling at my mother and don't yell
at my mother. No, I don't think this was one
minute and forty seconds. Wait, I have to say, but
we have to we have to know what happened. Did
you eventually get through? Like? What? Was it easy? Was

(01:15:03):
it a hard process? Absolutely did get through. But so
she was like, how long will you be here? You said,
I don't fucking know. Yeah, well, because she had an
attitude about her, and I was like, well, I don't.
I don't really, I was honestly, I was just being
super transparent because I'm all aboutransparency. And so I was
like what and she was like, well, what are you

(01:15:25):
here for us? At work? She said, what kind of
work do you do? As in music? She said, okay,
do you know what you're She was like, I thought
you would have your paper. I was like, what paper?
I was like, I gave you two pieces of paper
We've got to be on there. She was like, is
this you and her? Of course that's me. I was like,
it's a pasty, little blonde bitch. It's me, honestly. If
someone's going to have an attitude, though, it's the person

(01:15:46):
at French Customs, which also like valid and empathy extended
all of that. Yeah, something about I love London, the city,
I love the British people, but something about me fly
into London the other day yesterday, even this fucking flight
attendant on British Airways talking down to me like crazy

(01:16:08):
and then goes and then out of no, I'm just
I'm trying to watch the last of us on my
damn iPad. She goes, there's a reading like that. I
don't know if you know that, which she said, do
you know that? The way she asked me, do you
know that? I said? I turned her. I go, yeah,
I know that, Like, don't fucking talk to me like

(01:16:28):
this ever in any class. I'm in business, thank you
very much. Off of Universal Studios is dime. But like
something about Heathrow. These fucking customs people don't know how
to look at this paper on and have to go
through all their their little stamps. It's so weird. You
want to know what's fucking crazy? Actually, I was going

(01:16:49):
to Berlin, so I guess German customs. The question that
I was asked, he was like, how long are you
here for? Again, I'm like, I don't know. Okay, I'm
like with the people in front of you say because
I'm with them, so and he was like he was like, um.
He asked me another question. I was like sure, I'm
just really not sure. And then he was like how

(01:17:09):
much money do you have with you? And I said
you have I don't really carry cash like that. Again,
I'm say, okay, so I'm like I don't really have cash.
I was like, I have a credit card. He proceeded
to say, how much money is on your credit card? Incorrect? No, yeah,
I swear to god. I watched up to my mother
and I was like, I I almost got into a

(01:17:31):
tip where I was like about to really like come
for somebody and like be yeah, no, I do wonder
I didn't go to jail in France because hey, I'm
in a French prison and a non but a non place. Soon, yeah,

(01:17:52):
everybody everybody's and you know what one of problems with
other people. And you're like, maybe you should look in word.
That's something I've been looking in word. No, I just
have issues with others. Well, when someone's acting from Hurts
like they can't they can't be like surprised when they
get treated like Nikki from Hurts. You know what I'm saying.

(01:18:15):
I know, I'm thinking people solicit conflict in order to
test a boundary. Period. So Nikki from Hurts is trying
to fucking see where the boundary is. Look at the
reacting to that. And you've you've been mother on this.
You just spoke, period. I've never heard a statement. You

(01:18:37):
really just spoke. Wow, y'all any of us would break
reade out of a French prison or a German one.
I mean, we've been speaking so much on this episode.
You might call it the film women Talking. We've been
speaking so much. This was almost the movie Women Talking
with how much women talked on this episode. And I
feel as though a word was said many times. And

(01:18:59):
I feel that we have been blessed as as what
we can really call ourselves about in a duo by
this duo. And I see the future and it is bright.
It is very bright. These are stars. They're among us stars,
so many stars, too much? Right? You ate? Sorry you

(01:19:24):
could make diamonds though, are so beautiflful. I can't even
I can't even sing more. Isn't too emotional because this
has been such an amazing app when you said about this,
this has been an amazing episode. The energy is off

(01:19:46):
the charts. I'm telling you, I see stars tonight. I
see stars tonight. Thank you so much for Annaliah. We
love you so much. We love you both. Thank you
for having us. This is you gotta be streaming the
sex Lies of College Grounds everybody. It's really fun and
like it'll lift you, especially after an episode of the

(01:20:07):
Last of Us That will destroy you and both on
HBO Max. Listen to an e z P. Everything that
every everything, Everyone, It's but you're not on it? Get
on it if you're not obsessed with the way she sings,
with the tambre her voice. When she sings, it's easier

(01:20:28):
to holding a grudge. You haven't really lived, okay, And
we end every episode with the song I see starts
so many so soon night. You you so beautive, We're

(01:20:50):
all star. Actually never learned like look for that one
in cinemas in e Leargentina FA