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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Look may, oh, I see you my own look over
there is that culture? Yes, goodness lost cult d lost
calling we're back.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, what an auspicious beginning to the year.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
No, what do you mean? Well, why were you calling
him as? Because we get to beat together, we get
to be together. We have a great bounty.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
We have a great bounty, friendship, A treasure of beauty
in front of the.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Treasure of beauty? Is that the definition of bounty? A
treasure of Oh no, no, a great fortune, a great
fortune of beauty.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Forget when I forget how you used this sequence of words,
But it's so Matt Rogers. It's you have a great fortune.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Great fortune of beauty. Yes, well you do. Well, I'm
actually sitting here with you right now, and are you
in a full beat right now?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I actually took the beat off. You took the beat off. Yeah, yeah,
because you did a little photo shoot for SNL.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I did I for an SNL related thing for something.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So they get you in a full bead for the
photo shoot. Tell how photo shoots were?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, you know, they put uniform bead and then they say.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Okay, your hair looks okay, and these are the clothes
and they say Hey, throw that neck for me, Throw
that neck for me. You you in the phrase thrown neck,
talk about that. We have to give credit word to
do delta work. One time one on a tear on
her podcast about throwing neck, like you want me to
throw neck, and I actually didn't know what it was,
And now throw neck has entered my lexicon.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Throw neck is so much better than I hated. Give head, No,
give heads off. Give head is so bad.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
You we're talking about euphemisms for oral sex aka blowjob.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
We can also bring back blowjob, blowjob. You gave him
a blow job.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
A blowjob, a blow job, like I don't know he.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Gives good blowjobs. I want people to say that about me.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
No blowjob is so nineties, actually really closer. Number eight
blowjob is so nice? And what give head is so
so odds and throw neck is so twenty twenties.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
That's why I'm an auspicious beginning of the year. Obviously
there was a coping kind of cheekiness to it because
of things being so devastating.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, I was just saying to Bo right before we
got on, I'm actually super anxious to do the podcast
today and anytime there's something going on like the horrible
fires that are happening right now in Los Angeles. And
by the way, it's still ongoing. I mean we're recording
this on Monday, January thirteenth. This will come out on Wednesday,
and you know, the next couple of days are going
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to be very trying for the city and for the area.
And I think we are still going to give lost coach.
I mean, our theme for this year, actually we decided
is more random bullshit. Yeah, so look forward to that.
But I feel like I do just want to speak
to everyone that because I know for a fact that
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we have people that listen to this and a great
listener based in Los Angeles, and so many people there
that are being affected, that are losing everything, and it
just goes so beyond just the loss of property. I
mean the mental health right now. It's so demoralizing. It
is so it's hard to wrap your head around the
amount of devastation and just how much work needs to
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be done. And all I really want to say is
that we are sending all of our love and strength
to everyone that's affected, everyone that will be affected. For
people checking in on me, I'm fine, Like I'm in
New York and have been, I had some work stuff
to do at the top of the year. I've obviously
ended up remaining here just to kind of stay out
of the way, but truly heartbreaking, and just know that
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we will continue to provide a space for you to
hopefully laugh and you know, feel like there's someone beside you, because.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It is a very unique kind of grief to have
so many emotional attachments kind of fall away to ash.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Literally.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I mean, there's some things something very obviously you neique
about every kind of disastrous thing, but with fire, it
is like uncontrollable, unpredictable fast, and it all happens in
a way that defies any kind of processing, and things
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will just take a very long time on every level.
Things will take a very long time to feel tolerable
in any way. And that is what's probably the saddest
collective thing that people outside of Los Angeles must be feeling.
But then it certainly pales in comparison to what people
who are currently there and who will be dealing with
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this for the next several years are feeling in this moment.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, I mean it's hard, right because sometimes it's just
you're sitting on your computer or in front of your
TV or on your phone, and you see things start
to fill up that space, and it's like, you know,
the politicization and the finger pointing and stuff is so
unhelpful and it's hard. I will never forget some people
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whose instinct was to just immediately politicize this and immediately
make it about other things. When people's homes are burning,
when people are losing family, losing pets. Relationships get so
challenged during things like this, you know what I mean,
it's just the last thing on anyone's mind should be
like dunking on this city, which by the way, obviously
(05:36):
I get it, like La gets dunked on, you know
what I mean. It all feels very fucking stupid.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Why would you do that in this moment.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Because for some people they just can't separate their actual
need for attention and for people to rally around whatever
thought they have. I mean, it's like it's a fucking
dark day for social media. And when I log on
and I see that people have all the fucking answers,
when it's like you clearly don't camped, I think it's
it's officially curtains. Oh god. For so yeah, TikTok band
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take it at this point, Zuck being Zuck, like, it's
just it's over.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
There's no which is not to say that like TikTok
going away potentially is like a celebratory thing.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
It's just like if you had.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Any doubt that And now I'm like sounding a little tinfoily,
but it's like, if you had any depth, is all
part of some like this isn't some kind of like
propaganda machine. Essentially, it's like, why are all of these
fucking tech bros like right wingers now anyway? We can't
get into that.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
No, it's not, there's so much. There's time for this
stuff later. All I want to say right now actually
but literally to the trap. But when I literally said,
we won't do more than seven minutes on this because
we're what we're gonna do is we're gonna bring you
lost coach. We have a lot to say over the
about what's gone on over the past like a month
since we've seen you guys. We hope you guys enjoyed
the re releases. I think we actually carried down in
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terms of what we chose. We torre a tour, carried
and more. But the last thing I want to say,
the first thing I'm going to do when I get
back to the city, which I don't know when that
will be hopefully end of the week. We'll see, is
I'm going to my apartment, I'm going to my closet.
I'm Every single thing that I don't need is getting donated.
I encourage you to do the same. These resources, luckily,
(07:20):
because of social media, are not difficult to find in
terms of where you can donate and if you are
in the position to give. I said it about the
hurricanes in Florida, I'm saying it now, please do that
because people really need help. They really need help bad,
and my heart goes out to everybody.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
If anything can be taken away from this, it's that
the thing that has been mobilized the quickest and the
most incredibly is interpersonal mutual aid thing. It's devastating that
it's not anything more part of a larger system. It's
just it is literally like bottom up and it still
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has yet to be a top down thing. And as
we go into like a new sort of era, as
it were like that is that will not be the
thing that anyone can rely on.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I mean, let's I guess you know what, you know
what y'all, let's fucking see you. We fucked around. I
guess we're gonna find out depending on what goes down
in terms of our federal government, but I guess we'll
just continue to watch.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It's just crazy that the response is what it is
because it's a bluestate.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's really fucking it's crazy. I mean, let's not even,
let's literally not even. Let's just hope to God that
resources are given to people that need it, regardless of
where they live or who they are or X y
Z reason. The last thing I want to say about
it is shout out doesn't even do it justice to
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all of the firefighters that are giving everything to put
this out. I mean, like truly watching these the aircrafts
go up and the water get dumped, and like just
seeing how percis sie all of it is, and watching
these people scale mountains to get some places, putting themselves
in harm's way. Truly all respect and heroic kudos to them.
(09:12):
Like it's just amazing what you see people are willing
to do to help others, and that is something that
let's just highlight that. At the end of this and
as it all unfolds so far, my place is okay,
but I have a fucking one bedroom apartment. You know,
I'm all right, I'm just I'm my heart is broken
for people that are losing stuff. Yeah. Anyway, we watched
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The Substance last night. We're the last. Anyway, it's Oscar season.
We're the last gay men to see this movie. Watched
it together. It actually was You guys aren't going to
believe this. This is my second time seeing the movie.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Do we have a burgeoning horror enthusiast in our midst we?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I think we do.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I always thought that Matt Rogers would be a horror
buff like. I think you've grown up a lot since
you I self identified this way. Yeah, and I don't.
I think you can let that go. I think you
can let Ooh I'm sweamish about horror. I think you've
leveled the fuck up and you if you can sit
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through The Substance twice in one.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Week, yeah, I think you're fine. I knew what. Here's
the thing. It's such a rich genre genre. It's such
a shame that you're missing out. No, can I tell
you something. It's one of the genres that I respect
the most, horror and sci fi. Yes, I actually think
because you can genuinely and let's talk. We'll talk about
this movie in connection to this idea. But you can,
more than anything else, so brilliantly make points about our
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culture when you are a sci fi or horror filmmaker
or and both. This is obviously both. I knew I
was gonna have to see it because I'm just rooting
so hard for Demi and I'm more to say about
her in a second. But I was like, you know what,
I'm gonna nut up and I'm gonna fucking watch this.
You can get a nut up for Demi. I have
to nott up for Demi and Margaret. And that's why
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sheer culture number thirty. You have to nut up for
me and Margaret. And let's include Margaret in the conversation
because if I wake up on Oscar nomination morning, now
I don't see and I don't see whoever is reading
those nominations say the name Margaret quality. There will be
more destruction. Oh and that's like, that's a little light
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humor there. That's because I think we could all use
a little light humor. Facetious queen, thank you, this is is.
I think it's our favorite favorite the year.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, period, notwithstanding projects that we've been involved in.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I think Wicked has to occupy its own space, of course,
and let me go say it, it is occupying its
own space for me. I've seen Wicked. I think I
actually don't remember if it's four or five times, but
it's obviously one of my favorite films. Like, and congratulations
to you on your sagnam, thank you. I feel like
every time there's a nomination's announcement, my sister always gets
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the flowers because you are everything I ever were all
at once. No, I'm not just saying that I am.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I'm very grateful to be included among this superlative. Really,
there's a sort of self deprecating part of me that says,
I like, somehow canned my way into that, into that group.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
But also, I'm very proud of you were the ensemble,
I was elevated the film.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I'm proud of the work that everybody did, especially Jonathan
Bailey getting the nomination for supporting. Yeah, that was major,
such a nice what's the word tasteful choice? You used
a word when we were talking about this that we
were like when SAG nominations came out and then we were
talk about Jonathan was like, oh, we're so happy for Jonathan.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
You said, oh, are you looking through text? Yeah, I'm
looking through. What did I say about Johnny billy nomination?
We believe that I said something. We gotta we got
to cut around this one second. No, this is real life.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh no, okay, this we we were texting up we dorm.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Here's the thing about us. We are texting up a
storm CoA Number eight team. Here's the thing about us.
We are texting up a storm that.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
This is what you said about Jonathan Bailly's nomination inspired nomination.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I think it is an inspired because he is. Because
the thing about that role is it's like, first of all,
Jonathan Billy is like Dick Van Dyke, you know what
I mean, Like, oh my god, what a great comparison.
That's like the highest compliment I could give true entertainer,
like that physicality is delightful. Yeah, just tripping in charisma, man.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I'm saying that just in terms of the way he
moves and dances, not his physique. It's not his physique,
his physicality.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Well, I mean listen, first of all, if we're gonna
have fierro, that's exactly what it should be like a
triumph in both casting and tailoring. Oh that's what I
would say about everything that doesn't have to do with
Jonathan Bailly, right, But in terms of what does have
to do with him, now that's the definitive fierro. I mean,
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so easy to fall in love with immediately you get
why everyone on screen is doing that, you know, treating
him that way, just like you know in a movie
like that where they clearly loved it so much, got
the ensemble. No, I'm Cynthia and Arianna like, I love it.
And it's a true supporting nomination, which is something that
I ring the bell on a lot, which is the
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category fraud of it all of course.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
And that is Look, it's an acting award granted by
actors that he's performing in the truest sense.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I think I'm not surprised at all why people saw
his name and were like checking that box, yeah, and
you think that's what you think?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
They saw mine for ensemble and said yes, I.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Think that Here's what happened when I got to ensemble.
I think they first of all wicked w all the
way at the end, and I think you Yang were
all the way at the end of that. So I
think you were the last thing I was. You were
the closer of the entire booklet. And I've been a
SAG voting committee member, not this year, but I have
been in the past. I know how it works. And
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all I know is I think they closed their books
very pleased with themselves, knowing that they had voted to
nominate the one, the only cistern I have called Bowen.
I'm the closer. I'm Kira. You can work so here
a Sedgwick in this bitch. But okay, so it wasn't
all great for me though, because, like I just said,
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Margaret Qualley was not on the list for SAG. And
let me tell you something, the Academy members, if you're
any of your listening to this, you can actually vote
till Friday. Now. I'm not waking up and not hearing
Margaret Qualley's name. What she does in this movie, both
of them epic. Every edge of her was covered except
for one eye. Let's fucking talk about this film. So
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the substance. If you don't know, now you know it's
about Demi Moour. She plays an aging actress name Elizabeth Sparkle.
Let's just pause, just let that live. Elizabeth Sparkle. First
of all, the very first thing you see is her
Hollywood star, Elizabeth Sparkle, and you're like, her name is
Elizabeth Sparkle. And then the tone of the movie begins,
and it's just so brilliant, like what's how do you
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how would you say? What would you say? The tone is?
The tone is God. The tone is like B movie.
It's like B movie noir, B movie noir, but like
also like very aware of the fact that it's a
body horror movie and it's like crunchy and juicy and
very You mentioned the very first frame.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You were like, I already love this because it's just
the hard materials of the Hollywood star that they're making. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
And the movie is molding.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
And shaping and so yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
It's about being defined by what physically makes you up
and allowing that to go too far. And the movie
never loses sight of that. Coral Le farghi because some
people are fully pronouncing it far gee.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Oh that's interesting. So then maybe I'm wrong because I'm
looking at it, and I sure you are. You are
putting in the time to watch these interviews and to
hear the utterances of the names.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
We might as well just call Coralie the legend.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Hold on, we can't move forward with that knowing the
pro I'm looking.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
At her as someone who clearly is not I'm not
exactly whipping out a French accent, but I'm looking at
the way it's far. It looks like farge to Meia,
coral fargite.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Come on, someone said for I'm not saying come on you,
I'm saying, come on at whoever is broadcasting fargeat.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I mean lots of failures in broadcasting far geet, not
not the slur Fargeit sounds like a slur.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Sounds like you know, you know what to speak of.
Another Best Actress potential nominee, Mikey Madison really put her
pussy into faggot to saying the word faggot.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I absolutely love. I don't know if we've gotten into Honora,
because I don't think you had seen annoy when I
had seen a nore.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
You've now seen a Noora. I have now seen a Nooy,
and I of course I love.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Mikey Madison and no Noora like can I say doctor
Best Actress? Wild wild, Cynthia, Come on, Cynthia, but so
I hope Cynthia is locked. I think she is. Well,
there's some people online that are that are kind of
giving the fear of what happened to Margot Robbie could
happen to Cynthia, because like, but I also think it's
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a totally different thing now. I would be so bummed
out of Cynthia. Missus comn Cynthia.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Fucking you're with her every step of the way. Yeah,
in that movie, all the way up until that that
last fucking battle cry. It's like, come on, another actor would.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Have you couldn't. It wouldn't have been the same.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
It wouldn't have been the same. Cynthia gave us such
a sublime version of of just that story up until
that point.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Oh my god, come please, I mean it's so great.
And I listened to The Wizard and I a bunch
of by the way, I covered The Wizard and I
on my Christmas show, and each and every time it
was the best moment of my life. Oh, like literally,
I can't believe that song. And she's done like a
yet another like defining performance of that song. Like you
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can watch all the alphabets sing the Wizard and I.
Cynthia not only put her own spin on it, but
also did the song so much justice. And that's like
the point in the movie where you're like, it's confirmed
at that point that this is a great real Yes.
After that, I just love it. Not to speak too
much more about that, but like, I hope she gets
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her nomination. I think my actress five is to me
Mikey Madison, Cynthia Arrivo, Carlo Sofia Gascon and Nicole and
baby Girl and Nicole's getting lost. And this is not
to say I also didn't love I loved Angelina, Jolie
and Maria.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yes, and then you've seen her truths.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I've seen her truths. Marianne John Baptiste is incredible in it.
I just the movies. It's a difficult movie and it's
a tough character, but she's brilliant. And I've seen the
Last show Girl, and I think if Pam Anderson gets
a nomination, you're not gonna see me tisking, like I
root for her and she's fabulous in the movie. I've
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seen a lot. You are.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I think this is it. This is a fun year
to be a completest completionist. However you want to say, yeah, yeah, great, year.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And I haven't even mentioned Fernando Torres, who the legendary
Brazilian actress in the movie I'm Still here, who's won
the Globe and that kind of like got shot around,
shook it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because people were looking
at Nicole Kidman or Angelina Jolita win that and neither
of them did. We should we get back on track
with the subsistence, I mean, just funny. It wields camp.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
People throw around this word, but it wields camp in
the most perfect way, which is it's poor taste and
good taste. That's exactly what that movie is the entire
way through.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yes, And I think the dialogue yes, like, oh my god,
this is a reverie. This is dream like in everywhere
and in such a calibrated way, like even God, even
with the Dennis Quaid stuff, it's like, oh, everyone understands this.
This is good direction, everyone being aligned with the vision
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and also that being true when there is so much
technical stuff going on. Yes, I implore you, if you've
seen this movie, the next thing you should do your
homework is to watch It's a thirty minute BTS features
on YouTube about the making of the movie. It is
true practical filmmaking, practical magic, practical magic. Let that sink
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in bars. But like you watch the movie and you're like, well,
surely that part was CGI, and it wasn't. And so
incredibly creative she was in terms of what she executed.
She's so in control of all her departments. And to
speak to again, the.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Acting, Oh I'm thinking about Margaret.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Margaret is a legend. You're a hit. No, no, she's
so good and she also knows, like I don't even
know how to say this, but she's exactly pitch perfect
on playing both realities.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Realities of someone who because the thing about these characters
of Sue and Elizabeth is they only ever really talk
to each other. No, actually they never talk to each other,
and there's moments of like interaction, but like both to
me and Margaret are having to be in dialogue with
each other when they're solo, which you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yes, I mean, well they are one person. So that
actually that was the part where I was like watching
the walk and I'm like, okay, So, so if when
you watch the movie, and by the way, if you're
totally in the dark about what this movie is, it's
about Elizabeth Sparkle, who's an actress who turns fifty, and
she has like a Jane fond of workout class, Like
that's like her gig. Now you get the sense that
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this is what she's had to do because the Hollywood
industry has done what it's done to women. And she's
now too old. So she's finishing one of her classes
and it's her birthday and she gets the word without
saying too much, that because she's old, they're going to
fire her, and she replaced her with someone younger. So
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on the way home, she gets into a car accident.
She goes to the hospital and this like young nurse
says to her, like he passes on this thing called
the substance. And the substance is something that you can
take to create, for lack of a better word, a younger,
better version of yourself.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And there are stricts parameters in which you can alternate
between your current self and this younger self.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
With the caveat being remember you are one being like
while new matter is created, and then you can occupy
that new, younger, more beautiful matter. Yeah, you have to
always remember that you are one being in one consciousness.
So it's a really interesting exploration of what happens when
you hate yourself so much that you actually start It's
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just she loses grip on what's on the rules because
she so enjoys being the Margaret quality version of herself,
and it does there there is like this weird binary
created between them, but they keep being reminded they are
one person. So it's actually this weird like also kind
of an examination of like mental illness and true dysmorphia. Yeah,
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the movie's doing a lot. Well, the movie's doing a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And then like anytime she faces a consequence, it is
so good at leaving you in the audience a little
bit unsure, I think in a purely intentional way, not
in like a plot holy way. It's like you don't
know whether it's a scientific consequence or if it's something
that is like nefariously being carried out by like whoever
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is behind that.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, I love it. It doesn't have to see it.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, I mean I think everyone's seen him except us really.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
But honestly though, like I never know, because well you
can I guess stream it now on movie. And I
had no idea that Bowen was a movie lover.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Well, Matt finds out that I subscribed to a movie,
and then he goes, that's a list.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I go, I believe it's a list.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
To be a movie you can be a movie subscriber
and feel a list.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I guess I bought. I bought the film on Apple iTunes.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
That seems a list to me as well. You think
it's a list. I think everyone readers publicist Katie's Finalists.
I need to see Matt Rogers in the Criterion closet.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Oh my god. I just watched Pam Anderson's which is
really so good. She does like talking smart.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
She's so smart. She knows so much about film. Would
you pick up like umbrellas of Sherbourg or whatever?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
She's picked out the film Wanda, which is like a
big I've now seen the Last show Girl, which I'll
talk about in a second. I really want you to
see it too. I took my ass down to the
Angelica and which side of the theater are you on? Right?
Or laugh left?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Actually, that's my big I don't think so many things.
I love Angelica obviously, institution.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I do whatever I can to support it.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
It's tough for me, it's tough for a lot of
us to be in a theater that has a middle aisle.
I just I just got to say center aisle is tough.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
It is tough, you know, in terms of the layout.
I was not loving. It's okay, and it's okay.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
This is not a knock on Angelicate, just to knock
on that seating arrangement in theaters.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
The world's over. They could never make me hate Angelic.
They can never make me hand they try, because the
seats do need a little bit of a sprucing, and
that bathroom can use a little bit of a spruce.
I daren't even go it. Oh but I just shipped
myself front of the aisle girl space.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
No one's is it?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
But I saw so I saw the last show Girl,
And because I'm excited for Pam, I'm a Pam super fan.
Oh yeah, I saw Chicago Opening Night with Pam.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
You saw Chicago Opening Night with Pam and you we
are both huge fans of the opening scene of Scary
Movie three.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I mean, come on, all of Pam's work.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Okay, okay, cow says moo dudde dude.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Dude, I mean I'm a Pam Pam and party. Sorry,
let's keep going. Not mentioning her, not mentioning that when
I just mentioned her, what we need is her take
on the Fires and.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Substance or Last show Girl, So Substance still, I mean, like,
I it's our favorite movie.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
I knew I liked Margaret Kualley. You want to know
why because have you seen her Kenzo ad? Yes, she
dances for a commercial for Kenzo which she's everything. And
you know she because I'm now a Bleach I'm a
Bleacher super fan. She's in the music video for Tiny
Moves by Bleachers, and it's just like just watching her
(27:30):
be a stunning dancer and I have to imagine like
all that dance background went into her performance here, just
so funny, so smart, so committed, so and to me,
this is what blows me away about the Substance and
their performances in the Substance. Can you just imagine getting
that script and reading it and being like, you know what, yeah,
(27:54):
three months of this for sure, I get it. I
see it, and I'm willing to commit to this. Despite
the fact that that could have been a huge disaster.
Well she's had. She says that she had the same
feeling reading that scripture she did reading Ghosts, where she
was like, this might not work. This probably won't work.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
It starts as one thing, it goes into it's like
they pitched her ghost and it was like, could read
goofy it's a it's a.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Rom com thrill. It's a romantic thriller. Yeah, like super
ghost stories to multi genre.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
In which the substances as well just the distillation of
the tone of this movie is all in the billboard
for the.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Big New Year's Eve show. Oh God, Like ma I was.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
In tears just being like, this is so perfectly executed. Yeah,
like this billboard of Margaret of Sue in this stupid
fucking dress head askew the New Year's Eve Show tomorrow
nine pm, which implies that they put that billboard up
for one day the day before, on December thirtieth, and
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then the next day new billboard tonight to night.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
By the way, these billboards cost, like that location of
the billboard that they're insinuating is easily easily And it's
just so funny because you could choose to watch this
movie and be like, wait, what it's getting screenplay honors,
like this movie is goofy can because the tone is
so perfect from the second it starts to the end
and it's totally original. It's unlike anything.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
That's what I said out loud to you at one
point during the movie where I was just like, I've
never seen anything like this, and what a fucking statement
that is to say, you know who, I'm not about me,
understanding about like us in film No.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
One hundred percent, you know, I spent like probably two
and a half minutes of my Seth Myers and of
you're talking about yes, Oh, by the way, it was
the first thing I said. I was like, okay, so
he was like golden globes thoughts. I was like, yeah,
we gotta win.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
We gotta win.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Demi Moore and not like period point blank.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
You were so great on Seth. By the way, my
two act legend, by the way, can we just they.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Did give me two? I felt really excited about that.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
You're getting many more acts, because I guess who's excited
about your Oh, Seth Myers. Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I just saw him for the shoot and he was like,
I don't think people know about that yet. Okay, then well,
like we can blur that out. But there's something exciting coming.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Very people are going to be very happy, and I'm
excited about this is this is what the world needs
now is love, sweet love.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Okay, you know what's actually driving me. Nut's just to
go into some personal stuff. So I still have the blonde.
I'm like, over the blonde. I want to be I
want to I want to be brunette again. Buzz. But
I have to. I have to keep my hair growing
out for something, for something. And so now I'm like,
do I go somewhere in New York and have them
dye my hair brown? No? Truly not.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Uh, I just wait till until you finish the thing
because I need to.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Have brown hair and long hair in the thing. I yeah,
get a colored hair, get a color that could be interesting, can.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Be so interesting, or you or you get it shorn
off now and then have a grow out.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Remember in college when I would do.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Black I remember the black air.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I gotta be honest with my sister and say I
was not a huge fan, but it was it was
right for the time because you were once again deeply
committed to a role.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Okay, I won't dye my hair black. I think it's
just because you have black hair and jealous you don't
want me to take your.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Crowd doesn't go with your skin tone.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
You are a nasty You're a nasty, a lister and rude.
You are a nasty rude and you have your movie
subscription and you think you're all bad a movie.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
You need to get on Criterion channel.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I feel like i'd get in the Yeah, I do
need to get on Criterion channel. If I went in
the closet, I'd be adrift. You would not I have
no film.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Perfect Blue, Yeah, perfect the film.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
It's perfect Blue. Criteria. It is not Criterion. Well that's what.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
They don't have any Satoshi Cone in Criterion, which is
actually kind of crazy. They should they Well, Criterion, we
know you're listening. We know you're listening.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
We love you. We're fans. By the way.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Oh my god, I had a little Criterion kick of
the holidays and I watched him take Out by Sean Baker. Ooh,
and it's so crazy how there is this consistency in
his vocabulary as of filming, and the way he is
so solid and confident in a realism on film, like
it's the same thing, it's the same preserved shit and
(32:41):
anora where you're like, there's just something about the dialogue
and the way it's written in the direction that he
finds it in the edit, probably because he's an editor. Yeah,
Like just Takeout is so if you can believe it's
similar to Honora. It's obviously like he has, you know,
working class people and all of his films, but it's
like the thing about Takeout is like it's this everyday
(33:02):
operational thing at a place that you that is kind
of invisible to society, right, like a strip club or
a Chinese restaurant. But it's like the goings on, the
day to day goings on in those places is a huge,
a hugely important thing that defines character and that the characters,
the protagonists in these films are driven by like a
(33:22):
survival instinct, you know. Like I'm sorry, I'm being so
I'm talking about it, but it's the same. It's at
the bookends of Sean Baker. It's like from Takeout to
a normm like God, just a filmmaker who is who
understands what he's there to do.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, I mean it's you call it the working class.
I would say it's His films are about the barely work.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, all those films are about the barely surviving for us.
And I think that with Anora I was watching an
interview with Mikey actually was the it was the Hollywood
Reporter Actress round Table, which was great this year, and
she was saying, because the whole table kind of turned
to her at one point, she's very shy, very and
it's it's interesting to see her performance in a Nora
(34:04):
and then see her in real life. Like she's just
a talent and I'm a big, big fan of hers.
But she was saying that it's a lot of improv
like like that he'll just run the camera, like for
example in that first sequence when he just ran the
camera right, and she just kind of had to create
ways in which her character would try to pick guys up.
(34:25):
And you know, if you've not seen Anora, I don't
know what we're talking about. It's Shahn Baker's film starring
Mikey Madison Getting a ton of Oscar butus. Some people
may even call it a front runner in many categories,
where she plays a stripper slash sex worker who gets
involved with this like you know, very wealthy Russian oligarch's
son and they have a whirlwind romance which is short
(34:47):
lived and then there's a very harsh reality to the situation.
But she she really like. I guess that's a thing
with Sewn Baker's movies. It's incredibly collaborative the performers and
him because he also gets he has casting credit on
his movies, he has edit credits, that all this stuff
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in a way that I'd be interested to see how
that makes casting directors feel. But like, this guy is
totally in charge of what he's putting out there. And yeah,
it's interesting. It's like two different movies totally.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah you're talking about like Anorras, Yes, Splititude totally. It
has that quality of like, but it still works in
like this traditional like three act structure. It's like, oh,
like it all it all falls into the same, Yeah,
like Mars or whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
It's like you have fun watching it, like all his movies,
and then you leave heartbroken.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Of course, did you see Red Rocket? I never got
to see Red Rock. Oh I got Simon Rex and
I shared a play one time.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Really, it's all I love Simon X. I love him.
He's so great. Three three Baby, and finally finally getting
the Flowers.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
It deserves for being an important foundational text for comedy,
for film, for so many things.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Well you know, actually the last show Girl, which when
you see it you'll know what I mean. The Last
show Girl. By the way, it's to buy Gea Coppola,
Francis Porcoppola's granddaughter. The Last show Girl, I was sang
to Patrick Rogers, who I saw it with. The Last
show Girl was like a Sean Baker movie entirely through,
like a female gaze, and it was just an interesting
thing to see in quick succession. But I don't even
(36:17):
really know what my point is about that, but it's
just it's scary. Three yes, one story in Pam Anderson
and one yeah, and we're hopefully we'll see Anna Faris is.
Oh my god. By the way Hart goes out to her,
she she lost her home.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I mean, I just think we are ready for the
Anna Faris like a song.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Oh I've been ready. I have been so ready that
I don't think there's I think there's few people that
are that big of a sweeten star to be totally
on the nose. I like, watch Lost in Translation again
on my way to Japan. Oh god, she's so great
in it, so fucking good. Yeah, you watch Lost in Translation.
I was like I have it on. I was like,
I have it downloaded on MyPad. I was like, it's
been a while. That is so funny, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
My My interesting thing that I would love to ask
Cephakopele about is you can tell that that entire movie,
it's like it is a platonic thing and then it
becomes a little bit romantic at the end. For anyone
who wasn' seeing Lost in translation, I'm sorry I spoiled,
but it's like I wonder if that was the thing
that like Sophia kind of got like pressured into doing,
or if that was a nartistic.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Choice, improvise choice. They like the kiss? Do you think
I haven't seen it anyway, It's.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Very like it's not like a gross kiss, but it's
just like it's a kiss and it's like romantic and
maybe it isn't maybe it is a platonic kiss because
those exist, but like anyway, I don't know. I just like,
I just think that movie is so great when when
it's just purely through the lens of like these are
two lost people who find each other and their company
is all they need and it doesn't have to be
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sexual or romantic or anything.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I remember that that was SCARLETTJ. Mahnsson's moment stepping into
like an ala.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Because she was I remember she got like two Golden
Globe nominations, which, by the way, congrats to sebastianst who
finally got his flowers, and thank god, because I'm proud
of him and he's working hard and he's just what
a guy. He's just our favorite and I was really
really really happy for him that he got something because again,
(38:17):
and what he said is true. He's like when his speech,
he was like, we can't be afraid of this type
of we can't be afraid to make art and talk
about art because that's like a bad sign. We're in
bad dire streets. And we start to be like, well,
you can't say this, can't say that. I mean already
you see the normalizing ms Underwood. Oh, like, it's just interesting.
(38:38):
It's just interesting you think about it. I'm sarking a
huge cigarette that's eight feet long. Do you have anything
else say about the substance other than it is the
best movie of all time?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It really, it's one of my favorites. It really is
one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
And it's so gross, you guys.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
It's disgusting, which is the whole point. But am I crazy,
Like obviously, it's there's so many visual references to the shining.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Oh no, I don't think you're crazy at all. In fact,
I didn't pick up on them until you were pointing
them out throughout the film. I mean, like the pattern
on the carpet, the bat, like her coming out in
that bathroom.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, literally looking like the old woman.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Oh, the prosthetics in this first of all, hair and makeup, Oscar.
Oh please, dude, there's no question, I think honestly. Sound, oh,
the set, the sound please, this has to be to
end the script and both of them like, it's crazy
to me, and tell me if you feel the same.
To watch that movie and be like, this is an
(39:39):
Oscar contender is exciting, so insane.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Because I was talking to Sath about this, it's like,
I love that it's not an Oscar bait movie.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
No, that's the thing too. I love is that not
one person involved picked that script up and said, you know,
this is gonna get me an Oscar now. And again, Rubric,
could anyone else have done it better? There's something very
special about to me, in particular taking it on and
let's just speak about her for one second. And I
told you when the sequence started, which was her going
(40:08):
back to the mirror. There's a sequence where she she
in the middle of the substance process, has like second
thoughts and she is preparing for a date with this
guy that she meets, and she just keeps going back
to the mirror because she's so insecure and hates herself
so much. The specific rage and hatred with which she
looks at herself in the mirror, and that the really
(40:31):
quiet performance because she's not in dialogue with anyone, no,
but she carries this whole thing like you don't emotionally
miss a second of it.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
It's purely about the interiority of this hatred that you have.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah with her, Yeah, that you're just like And also
even just the way like to me's very long dark hair,
Like there's something like really specific and dark about every
frame of the movie. And she's the perfect center for
it because of her lived experience, yes, that she brings
(41:03):
in her acting, but also just like it just feels
like this was the role she was born to, Yeah,
and the experiences that she's had like uniquely prepare her
to take on this role. And then the casting of
Margaret Quality too is like you'd fully believe that's her
younger double, you believe that they occupy that same thing.
And it's just great. It's just a great triumph all
(41:25):
the way around, and the directing and the specificity of
the shots.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Oh well, that's what I'm saying, Like all these trunning references.
You could not have asked for a better modernization of
Dorian Gray it is. It even ups the any of
that with the final act of the film, and it's like, oh,
well that is the most perfect choice to have the
story go there and then just show it on film. Yeah,
(41:54):
I love it. I love that movie.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Thematically too, so interesting, Like the substance really speaks to
like this new revival of Sunset Boulevard, which and then
I seeing Last Showgirl it speaks to that, like just a.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Lot of expl you you brought up baby Jane. It's like, oh,
it's it's all of these things. Yeah, And also I
think people might bock.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
At the fact that it was like and also there's
like tons of reasons tu bac whenever, like the Golden
Globes word. However, the categorization goes in terms of the
awards stuff, like you know, are these actual supporting actors like,
is this really a comedy, et cetera. This is an
amazing comedy. It's a great It is a total satire
on exactly where we're at in the culture right now
(42:37):
in the way that and and that's another thing too,
is it's like, I'm sure it helps to be a
woman of a certain age to really understand this, but
we all know what it's like to look at ourselves
and hate like what we see or like Because that's
another thing to me talks a lot about in the
press that she does for the movie is it's like
so much of what rang true to her was the
(42:59):
violence we do to ourselves. It's less about the messaging
from the media and stuff and more about how we
accept it, believe and act on those things. And that
is I think what I recognized is like, yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Is society is the extent, but it's not. It's you
would be irresponsible to say that it's just that.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
No, it's like a red flag from society. But then
like you have to take ownership over what you are
doing and being like, Okay, this is good for me,
this is bad for me. I can tell the difference,
but sometimes you just fall too far. It's it's sad.
I mean, even the last sequence of the movie is
incredibly over the top. It's heartbreaking. I know, like there's
(43:42):
just specifically one moment where there's like a little bit
of dialogue from the character and it's sad. It's heartbreaking.
And then the last image of the movie is deeply
heartbreaking but also so funny and genius. It's so funny.
Oh my god, we said, we said, Oscar Award, Academy
(44:03):
Award speaking. Now, how are we gonna get Salt Lake
City this season? In Emmy? It needs it needs something
of Bell. Yeah, no Bell, Culture Award, the way that
you can expect to see the house ris of Salt
Lake City back at the Cultural Awards. This is this
(44:25):
is part Feelings, two seasons in a row of tens.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Tens, tens, tens tens.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
In television, the Brook actually was emotional in her reatch
Did you watch her recap yet?
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I didn't know, But you know, we love Brook Ashley.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
First of all, Meredith marks for saying lies and spraying lies.
You disgust me. I can't believe I had you in
my home, my home, my home. Mary get her married.
We haven't we it's been a several weeks, so we
(45:03):
haven't been able to really impart. If you're if you're
still not watching the House, I just all like saying,
you're not doing life right.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
You're not doing life. The way I'm encouraging Matt to
let go of this self identification is not being a
horror fan.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
If you're not a.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Bravo person, if you've identified as I'm not a Bravo person,
you have permission to let that go. You are missing
out on something truly special, can't you say?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I would say bo? I would say, I think that again,
like the way that they operate as a cast. Also,
like put some respect on Brittany's name. Really is that crazy?
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Man?
Speaker 1 (45:42):
I mean I was sending a video because I just
love the safe placement of all of her anger and
bring you guys, this is ridiculous. He's a singer I've
never taped in my life. I've in shocked.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
I mean, her must return, she must return, and she
she has earned her keep. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Meanwhile, how bored were we last night watching Potomac? Oh?
It is?
Speaker 2 (46:08):
It's started off strong and now it's just boring and
can we say sad and tragic? We wish Karen Hugar
the best. This something is not timing out correctly if
she has allegedly been in rehab for weeks but also
was seen in Kathy Hilton's holiday party and she's missing
the reunion anyway, that we're getting into, brast we're getting in.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
We just wish Karen the best, and because clearly there's
not everything is right there. And so I honestly, well,
if you're a fan of the Housewives Universe, like and
you're in it, you know that you probably saw the
video of like her arrest after drunk driving, which was
not the first time. And I just I don't really
understand thinking you could plead not guilty based on what
(46:50):
was became readily available to the public. But again, that
just makes me feel like, clearly there's someone that really
needs a lot of help, and if she's getting the
help regardless of the situation.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
And then that is good and our commentary does not
matter in that regard alway.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Is this the script for challengers? Yeah? Gag Okay, so
you're up to date on your w G A douce
and you are paid mine, well girl, and we expect
this this would be a fabulous to read. You want
to read it you want to borrow you actually do Yeah,
have you already read it or you're not gonna?
Speaker 2 (47:21):
I have not read it, but it's been sitting there
too long, you know what?
Speaker 3 (47:23):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Like you take it by the way. Not enough challengers
in the Oscar just course, Seth Myers, And I'm just
I'm just kind of parroting what Seth Myers just said
to me an hour. We love him very well, love
him and he actually I love him. He will be
winning another.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
He will be winning another culture award.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
He said it.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
He was saying, Josh o'cnnor, where's all the love for him?
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Now? He's just gay baiting, he's crebating. How dare he?
And I I'm retracting everything queer, Seth Myers, how dare
you do this? You can't be all these things? And
then be like look Bowen Yang in the eye and say,
can't believe Josh O'Connor is not getting love? Like, how
dare you? You're trying? And you don't think we thing
on me? And you oh please, when I go to
(48:04):
that show, I'm thinking he's the best. He is the
best and effortless. And can I say when you go
on that show, you get like a special card for you.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Even penmanship.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
That's exactly why I brought it up. The man's penmanship
is a late night host penmanship.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
A masculine yet classic, stylish, stylish thriller thrill.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
His penmanship is a stylish thriller.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Stylish that's actually really culture number eighty eight set.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Penmanship is a stylish thriller.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
You know that man has letters that are being kept
in a book.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
I hope they're published one I hope they publish letters
to Alexis God. You know, I just hope children. I
hope that his letters are published. And what more, what
more chic thing could you say about someone than that
one day, you hope their letters are published. He was
wearing a suit, I'm sure, and the entire room was like,
(49:02):
my god, we're so not used to him being in
a suit anymore, but god, he man. Man has never
looked better in a suit. No, it's actually a shame
for the world that he doesn't wear the suit every day.
But you know what, though, he also can rock a
crew neck sweater. It's not fair. I'm saying it's not
fair for us, as crew next sweater wearers. We can't compete,
(49:26):
But it's also not fair for us as an audience
because we don't see him. We want to toggle back
and forth. When he's wearing the suit, we want to
see him in the sweater, when he's wearing this sweater,
we want to see him in this suit. And it
all comes down to the truth, which is we just
want to see Seth Myers, period, bars bars. So was
it just you and him today doing a photo show? No,
it was many members.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Of me, the great Seth Myers, the Great Kate McKinnon,
the Great Leslie Jones, the Great Keenan Thompson, and the
great Molly Shannon.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
It's funny, fun, good fun group. Nice collection. Yeah, how's Molly?
Molly's so oh? She was asking about you, Molly. I
mean we were comparing notes about Japan or Japan trips.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
She went with her family.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
She went a few years ago, but it's her favorite place.
And my the thing I have trouble with is just
remembering names in Japan especially, and she was just able
to just rattle them off the top of her head.
And yeah, that is a woman who knows so cute.
She goes, you know, the hotels I booked fucking dot
com like she was.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Just booking dot com. I went on, there, Oh, how's
how is he so good?
Speaker 4 (50:33):
Good?
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Literally, she is so classic.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
How is your mother?
Speaker 1 (50:38):
That's good that you and your mother. It's great, it's
really good, really good. Well, it's great that you guys
are class. It really is. Oh really, isn't that funny?
Isn't that funny? I said to him. I was like,
I think that's so funny. That's so funny. Wait, I
oh my god, that looks so good in a suit.
I'm gonna text her. Not a single word you telling
(51:06):
us about your Japan trip. Jesus Christ. See, there were
so many other things, and this is truly a comment
on the speed of culture moving by us at such
a pace. Please talk about your trip jap No, tell
them everything you need to know because you were having
such a fabulous time. I'm so happy.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Was from the moment I got onto the Pokemon themed plane, Matt.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Say, it bursts open.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
The seal on my. My whole life is led up
to that trip.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Not really the kind of person that's like, oh my god,
let me take a picture of the little accouterments on
the plane. But I was like, you were taking a
photo of every knickknack. That flight looked so cute and gorgeous.
It was a cute, gorgeous flight, some of the best
Foodioi kawaii.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Super cool? Super cute? I mean super cute, and well,
you know, you go, you go to Japan and I'm like,
I get why Gwen did that? How could you not
be obsessed with that? She was inspired.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
You walk through Harrazuku and you're like, I'm doing an album,
but I'm doing an album about I'm doing a.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Big pop record about this, Like that song is a plus?
Oh my god, I just so.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
What were the highlights? The highlights? I mean, it's it's
tough to cut it together.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Sean Baker.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
I am not.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
I cannot edit this down, but it is. It was
literally like the moment.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
I got there, I get a text from Eric Knumb, wonderful,
wonderful artist person. He's just like, oh my god, you're
in Tokyo, like Otsgo Okotsko, the legend form here. Otsogo
and Ronnie Chang are here. We're doing karaoke tonight, come
and meet us.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
We go to Shinjuku, Me and my friend Jake, who's
there shout out to Jake. If you're in Williamsburg, if
you need a nice short men's haircut. The guy's boat.
He's busy, but kiju check out a salon. Hands down
the best vibe in Williamsburg of any place. Did karaoke
with them? A little eleven year old boy was that?
Ronnie Cheg's eleven year old nephew was there. This boy
(53:21):
who freaked out when he saw Eric Nam because he
loves K pop. He loves Eric Nahm freaked out. We
all sang there was a full back line. Monica. Shout
out to Monica. Our friend Monica took us to a
pro wrestling match, not a sumo match, a pro wrestling
match in the Tokyo Dome, which is also where Taylor
Arrow's tour. And the entire time I was thinking Taylor
(53:42):
was just there there, I mean all of it, just
going to just seeing the sights of the shopping, Oh
Joshua at the Orally store. We got a beautiful experience there.
I mean the food. It's like France, It's like they
hold in highest regard their culture, like in terms of
like the film and the television, like think about like
(54:03):
just think about like Japanese film and like, like the
caliber of that, the food, the hospitality, the fashion, it's
all very French. It's like they're they're likes the French
and that they like really care about this shit and
making sure it's delightful.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
And oh, we have to go, we have to go.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
We're going for my birthday period and we're going, and
you know what, And I was sad about that. I
that I canceled my last minute Disney Sea trip because
it just there just wasn't enough time and it was
just stressful. It was like the busiest domestic travel time
in Japan is New Year's Week because everyone has work off.
But I was like, no, this is better because the.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
First time I go to Disney Cea in Disneyland and
Universal Studios ASAKA will be with my sister. Let's block
out like a lot joey time. Yeah. I was gonna say,
in the beginning of remember or.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
End of October, I don't need to do Halloween in
the States.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Girl who does ooh, none of you do? None of
you do? Think about it. When they keep saying Christmas
gets longer, I said, yeah, I hope it eats Halloween
right up that way. I can get started earlier, make
more coin, make even more coin than I ever have.
I'm coming for you coming September, the month of August.
(55:12):
Slipt away like a bottle of wine because I'm drinking it.
The prints of Christmas, Bitch.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
We haven't reflected. We have reflected on post prints of
Christmas store, haven't we?
Speaker 1 (55:22):
Actually? Well, First, I want to say it was the
best it ever was. And I know I said this
at the end, and I was really looking forward at
the end. It was kind of it wasn't even bittersweet
to end it because I was like, we fucking nailed it.
I'm so in love with my band and those boys, Henry, Ethan,
Jordan and Derek, love them the best time. If I'm
already booking for next year, here we go. Truly, I
(55:44):
will figure out ways to make it even better next year. Wow,
it's hard to top hard to topo like me in
my late twenties. Yeah, I mean that's true. But anyway, like, okay,
speaking of it wasn't hard to tap me at all
in Miami, even after my accident. I haven't talked about
(56:05):
this on the pod.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
You were throwing neck after the accident.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
Babe, So I finished the tour, I go home for
a few days to Long Island to be with the folks. Yes,
And then I go to Miami thinking, actually, like we've
planned it enough where it can be like kind of
a low key Miami trip. Get there. No one realized
it was gay Circuit week. So I go that night
(56:29):
to a party. I'm not gonna say where. I'm not
gonna say what party because I don't want to cause
any trouble. Oh oh, there were wet stairs. I absolutely
bit itch on some stairs, landed on my tailbone. I
know secondhand. You guys are probably win sing and in
pain hearing me talk about this. Yeah, it was bad,
(56:53):
Bruce tailbone. At the very least, it honestly may be broken. No,
because it's actually been two weeks now. Oh yeah, Matt,
two weeks now, almost to the day. Yeah almost, Michael, No, yesterday.
It was two weeks when it happened, and it's still
Actually I worked out for the very first time today
at Berry's, just to see what I was capable of.
Can't do abs or anything where you use like that
(57:14):
part of your body as like a folkrum, because it's
it's still very painful, And can I.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
Ask you did not see a professional, not yet, because
that's what Michael Fisher was asking me this morning. He
was like, but did Matt. Has Matt gone to see someone?
I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
So it is getting better. It is getting better, but
the thing is with a tailbone thing. And first of all,
I know, I love you readers and medical professionals that
are going to reach out. I really am okay. It's
just discomfort. Like there's nothing you can really do for
a tailbone bruise or even break. You kind of just
have to wait it out. And I'm okay. It's just
(57:49):
uncomfortable to sit or lay down on your back, which
is like kind of your favorite activity, really, my favorite
stuff to do. After I've like completed the tour and
New Year's I got back and I was just like,
oh god. And so it's been a very uncomfortable couple
of weeks. But I will say it did not stop
me from getting it in.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
That's amazing. I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 1 (58:11):
I am too. When there's a will and there was
a big way, and there was a big way. I
I've been like another horny era. Great, are you maybe
expanded like it's been presented oh, like opportunities have presented
themselves in New York.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
Sure, sure, And I'm like.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
Yeah, you could take it or leave it. I could
take it or I shouldn't. That's actually powerful. I know.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
I wish I was more enthusiastic about it.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
I'm like that about it. But it's the holidays, you know.
Speaker 2 (58:45):
I'm like, oh, I feel like I can like I mean,
this is such toxic thinking, but I'm like, give me
another month to like get myself right, just in terms
of like I'm still bouncing back from the holidays and
this trip honestly where I'm like, let me actually not
be a dog, you know what I mean, because.
Speaker 1 (59:07):
You were just doing a lot of scheduled stuff. I
honestly feel like the second dating becomes like, you know,
a bunch of activities or like things on the schedule,
like let's pull it back. Who even knows where they're at? Totally,
I don't know where I'm at. I thought I was
last year. All throughout the year, I was like, oh,
I really want a boyfriend again. I want a boyfriend again.
(59:28):
And now I'm like, maybe you don't, like maybe that
was just something you were telling yourself.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
Yeah, well you know I'm still in husband search, but.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
If he shows up, I would love that. But you
can't just marry anybody. You can't think you can. But wait,
I think I had a dream the other night that
I got married. Really yeah, I had like a dream
that I got full on marry or was it amazing
or was it like whoa No? The whole time I
was like, wait, what why did I do that? Yeah,
(59:57):
to a woman?
Speaker 2 (59:57):
Maybe, Oh that's fun.
Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Definitely recently, this is now coming to my mind. There
was definitely a dream recently where I got married to
a woman.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yeah, And it was like a whole thing of like, well,
how are we going to make this work? You'll make
it work, I guess.
Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Is there anything else before we get into I mean
literally there are other things? But traders? Oh? Loving the traders?
I will say I did not. So we had heard
a false spoiler.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
We heard a false spoiler, and I think it was
falsely relayed by the person.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Let's just say. Let's just say we had heard a
false spoiler at the Culture Awards that and we won't
say who relayed the message, but we had heard a
false spoiler that Bob the Drag Queen was out first.
It's definitely not true and that is certainly not true
and not even out first of all. Okay, spoiler aler
(01:00:56):
for the Traders. Bob the Drag Queen is one of
the Traders, Yes, and I love it as a choice. Yes.
I don't know Danielle from Big Brother too much. I
know a lot about Carolyn of course, and obviously Rob
Mariano Boston. Rob is a full reality television legend. I
(01:01:18):
think the cast actually is better overall this year than
last year. Oh sure, because it feels like they're playing
the game and less like on a reality shit. Yeah, yeah, yes,
you know.
Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I think there is what a fun opportunity for a
course correction in terms of like a collective like this
cast is decided. Maybe they were given a note or something,
but like really play the game this time and don't
weren't necessarily worry about like the drama.
Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Right of it. Yeah, and I think that that is
to this season's benefit. Yeah, who are you rooting for?
Rooting for Bob? We love Bob, so you're rooting for
the Traders.
Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I'm reading for the Traders because and I love Carolyn
so much, and I think Carolyn is playing it right.
Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Carolyn is doing You're right. Danielle and Bob, I mean
they're both doing too much.
Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
They're doing too much, but which we still root for them.
Who else, Chrischelle. We love seeing Rischelle on to win
the show. Oh so that's what you're rooting for. You're
you're rooting for the face pal, So.
Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
I'm rooting for her. Yeah. And of course Dolors Cotanna
my number one, You're number.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
One, and I love Dolores here as well.
Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Dolores.
Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
I just I just want to put out there that
based on this them video that Matt and I did,
it made it seem like I was an anti Dolores.
Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
No, I think you were just surprised.
Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
I was just surprised that your number one housewife was Dolores,
And I said Dolores, and then maybe that made her
think that or people think that I don't like her.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
I think you were surprised to hear me say that
Dolores Cantania was my favorite housewife of all time, which
I can understand because I don't think I'm like always
spouting out about Dolores because and I think it's precisely
why she's my number one. Is because she very on television.
She reminds me of all my mom's friends.
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Oh that's so beautiful. But how what about this statement
Meredith Marks because I think, especially after last week on
Salt Lake, one of the best housewives.
Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Of there's enough.
Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
There's no question she's had enough seasons under about now
five where she's done consistently great work.
Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Where I go, she is one of the altar. She's
done iconic things in every season. Yep, she's done iconic
things in every season. And again we say this with
equal love for friend of the Pod Angie Katsanevas and
Heather Gay and Whitney.
Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Rose and I just I love these women. These I
will miss these women so much. It's not over yet,
but I'm counting it to. It's like, we've got finale
this week, and then we've got, you know, three reunions.
Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
I heard.
Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
But here's the thing I heard. We have a phenomenal
finale and a really really really Andy said stellar reunion.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
And they looked good. They looked great. I love the
pink in the red. I do hope Miami comes back
with the force. I need them, I need to have this.
It's the sphere of empty. I need to had that
empty filled up once they once Salt Lake leaves, Meredith
Mark's absolutely is making the is just on the on
the Mount rush More.
Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Oh certainly mean Meredith is just like.
Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
From episode one or two of I'm Disengaging, Like the
hits keep coming. I think next Ultimate Girl's Trip, we
do need to have Meredith Meredith like Meredith there and
also Lisa has earned it too, like Lisa. First of
you know what I noticed about Lisa Barlow, the character
game that she plays like is so strong.
Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
She every single time she gives you exactly what you
if you were to logically sit down and be like,
what's Lisa Barlow gonna do? She does it every single time,
and it's always satisfying. It just feels so deceived. Literally,
the first scene of this is her sitting down to
(01:04:55):
text everyone, I'm really thinking about last night and how
I was wronged, like not taking a kind of you
over anything, not not that in that situation she particularly
needed to, but like she goes, I know we're going
to talk about it on the way to ATV, and
then she explains she chose ATV because she googled luxury
activities all that mattered to her was that it was
a luxury activity, not that it made sense for them.
(01:05:17):
I said, that's housewifery and at the same time to
have a diet of trash. I mean, I mean, this
is just it's it's a great couldn't write a better person. Yeah,
unless her name was Elizabeth Sparkle, unless her name was
Elizabeth Sparkle, unless I thought you werena say Eliza, her
name was Elizabeth what's her face? From Anatomy of Elizabeth Finlabeth?
(01:05:40):
She too. You couldn't write Peacock give it up for Peacock.
Do you wonder what else I watched? This is not
on Peacock, but I watched you might love this. Actually,
Jerry Springer, there's a two episodes that guy.
Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Not not Jerry, but that producer who came in.
Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
I mean that Actually it has major implications on the culture,
of course, like it made trash populist, you know what
I mean, or revealed the appetite that people would have
for tabloidy sensational types of stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I mean, And it's like Roman colosseum sense, it's like
primal It's this thing that like human beings will respond to.
Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Yeah, that ultimately opens the door to Trump. And it
all started with that kick a K episode. Insane And
also I actually didn't know that one of the episodes
led to a horrific murder, right, and keep watching it
because by the end of the second episode you're like sad.
But I do think there's something about that show that
(01:06:42):
is like important and speaks to the culture and why
we're at where we're at.
Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
I always viewed Springer as like, I mean, obviously, it's
like a distressing troublesome I'll say the word even though
I'm slightly rolling my eyes, like problematic show, right, But
I was always comforted. But like Jerry Springer knew how
to like ring it in at the end and be
like this was the message of this episode and take
(01:07:10):
care of yourselves and each.
Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Way that way to smooth it over at the end.
I mean it's but yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
It's an important alleviating thing that he understood he had
to do at the end of each other. And that
was his catchphrase when he was a news anchor. Did
not realize he was a professor, right, he was like
a professor. He's a fascinating past well, he was read off.
He was a mayor, he was the mayor.
Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Of them of Oh my god, yeah, that of that
town right anyway, I don't know either, but he was
like he had a very interesting background. And then Cincinnati,
I think, right or something like that. But then he
became a host of a daytime show. And it's funny
because I don't know if you've gotten to this point,
but they show like the first or second episode of
his show, and it was literally like so miltos, it
(01:07:53):
was like what everyone else was doing, like Phildonna here,
and they were like literally like number eighteen of nineteen
shows in daytime and they were like, Okay, we need
to drastically change this. Let's try this other flavor of programming.
And then obviously the rest is history, but fascinating.
Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
But Springer was like a huge part of my day
when I would like when I would like because we
didn't have cable, as I say, and so huge part
of my day growing up when I would like stay homesick, wow,
because they would just play it back to.
Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Bath and your parents didn't come in and were like
turn this off by the time they got home. It
was just right right at home.
Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Or my sister, but like you know, we wouldn't be sick.
At the same time, I would just like be sitting
at home in the summers especially, I would just like
be at home watching Springer and then it would go
from Springer to Bob Ross, Like what a fucking wildlash.
Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
I could never get anything past my parents, like it was.
And then randomly they gave me a TV in my
room in high school, and I was like, okay, this
is a wild swing left because I was just watching
like remember when E. You don't remember because you didn't
have cable, but E would show Howard Stern. Oh, this
is like the era of Anna Nicole Smith and like
Howard Stern like being on E. And so I watched
(01:09:03):
so much garbage and trash, Like at the time, how
I filed it away in my brain. Now I love
Howard Sterne because he's rebranded. But it was just so funny.
I was a sheltered person in terms, like they would
never ever allow me to watch South Park. Oh, to
the point where I started to be afraid of the show. Okay,
like like it was like a trauma. It was like
(01:09:25):
a trigger. Whenever it was on. My cousins would watch
it and I'd be like.
Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
I can't watch this, so then were you were you ever?
Have you ever been a south Park guy? I should
honestly get into it now. It's pretty because.
Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
I know the movie man, I love Trey Parker and
Matt Stone.
Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
I know the movie is amazing. And also there's some
episodes of south Park that are like, yeah, just hot,
just pure brilliant comedy.
Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
But at the time, because it was like, you know,
the things that they said, and like, of course the
Kenny dying of it all, my parents were just like, no,
you can't watch that. Do you've watched the the episode
where they have the or at the bottom of the
scram for how many times they say? Fuck?
Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
No, that's an amazing episode because it just it goes
somewhere brilliant. Did you ever watch the Vadgis Still episode?
Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Oh, I've not seen any of it? Were Cartman?
Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Cartman becomes like a better runner, he becomes you. This
is south Park for me was I was in the
third grade in Canada and me and my friends, I
mean somehow these like I was able to watch south
episodes of south Park at home. My parents were like,
what is this so whatever, Like they couldn't totally understand
(01:10:34):
why it was vulgar, like a dialogue were the vulgar things.
But then my friends and I in the third grade,
like these like French Canadian middle class working class kids,
like I guess their parents loved South Park two or
something and they would watch South Park at home. And
then we just all thought we were the south Park
kids because we were like in a cold town.
Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Yeah, like bundled. It was like a weird one to
one there.
Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Yeah, there was like this like fat kid and he
was like, I'm Cartman. And then we all loved it
so much. And then when I had to move, when
I told everyone I was moving to Colorado, they were like,
oh my god, you're gonna be We're going to south
Park and it was this huge and so we're going
down South. So then going to Colorado with South Park
(01:11:22):
on the brain, it was just like the only thing
that made like the move to Colorado was so complicated
by like John Manny Ramsay and Columne and then but
then south Park was this other like contour to it
where it was like but at least it's like it's
it's where all these weird things happen, and that is true,
like Colorado is a weird place.
Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Like it has all like.
Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
The bizarre shit that would go down in Florida, but
with like this like hippie dippy.
Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Counterweight to it.
Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
I fucking love south Park so much, and we need
to watch some classic episodes and the movie one of
Sondheim's favorite musicals.
Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Really, he said that, I feel like we've talked about
this on the podcast. I probably he's somewhere on the record.
Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
He was like, that is one of the best musicals
and one of the best movie musicals ever.
Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
I mean, I'll never forget. I actually did.
Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
I have seen that movie many times because I just
I don't know. For some reason, I've seen the movie
a bunch like and I downloaded a lot of this
should jugging face, Like I used to listen to that
all the time. But also blame Canada performance the Oscars
I remember being unforgettable.
Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
And it's also because the actress who played Kyle's mom,
soon after the south Park movie came out, took her
own life. There's a lot of like south Park is really,
I mean, god, it's still going like it's such an
important piece of culture literally, and like it's so funny
that we haven't talked about this before on the show.
Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
I think it's because it's a weird blind spot for me. Yeah,
my parents might. They weren't helicoptery, but they were just
sensitive to like I couldn't watch MTV and I could
not watch south Park. Uh huh hard no, And it
literally it weirdly made me fill those spaces and with
other things that's interesting that I think does inform my culture.
(01:13:07):
One which was the.
Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
And then what's the standard for south Park? You think
like the Simpsons at least, but I'm not even a Simpsons,
Like was it?
Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Honestly, I watched a lot of like I watched a
lot of Nickelodeon. I watched a lot of Nickelodeon and
Disney Channel, like I was. It's interesting to see those
things get relitigated, huh, because you're like, oh, like you're
like absolutely, this is crazy, right right right, It's interesting
(01:13:37):
like children's programming at the time, And you know what
I'll say about south Park, at least they weren't pretending
to be for totally like a lot of this other
shit that was like explicitly marketed to kids, and it
was all fucked up and really endangering the people the
kids that were performing that stuff, Like at least that
weren't like it wasn't like nefarious like South Park was
what it was. It never pretended to not be totally.
(01:13:59):
I know, there's like a there's like a genius security
to that of intention. And to bring it back to Peacock,
great documentary on Peacock came out already.
Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
I thought it was new, but it already apparently came
out a couple of years ago called I Love You
You Hate Me about Barney Oh, and about the culture
of Barney bashing that I didn't really fully know about,
but I remember growing up like, oh, it was like
cool to hate Barney. It was like punk rocke Well
because it was so popular. But not only that, but
because it's the one of the actress from Blues Clues.
They interview him and he his theory is the reason
(01:14:32):
there was such a crazy collective anger towards Barney was
that it was targeted towards three year olds, specifically, right,
and like the creative Barney was this mother who wanted
a show for her son and it came in the
form of Barney because he was obsessed with dinosaurs. And
I mean, Barney is pure I love you, you can
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do anything.
Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
We love each other.
Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
It's the messaging is so smooth brained and it's there's
no nuance to it. And the guy who's in Blue
Schools was like all great children's programming has broken people
and broken characters in it, like Sesame Street, like yeah,
Burton or like especially Burt broken person, even Oscar the
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Grouch he broke, Like there are these complex emotional Cookie
is a drug addict. Cookie is a drug like but
not know though, you know what I mean. Like the
like children's programming when it's done well and it's for
a large age demographic, it is like these com emotionally
complex characters.
Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Yeah, that's a really interesting point. And like the same
with Big Bird is like a little bit depressed. It's like, yeah,
he is depressed. There's there are these like layers to it.
Barney was clean up.
Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Pure, clean up, pure, like aha, everything is happy, and
so that drives anyone outside of that age demo insane
because they're like, that's not how the world is. And
a lot of parents were jealous that their kids loved
Barney more than them. So then it began this entire
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culture around Barney and like burning Barney effigies like it's
it was a whole thing in the nineties. WHOA, this
is a great documentary.
Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
I have to watch. You have to watch. I love
We also have to do our own documentary on the
Barney to Amelia Pettes Pipeline. Yes, that is Selina's autobiography
and Demi.
Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Demi Levado was was it was?
Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
It was Demi Lovado.
Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
I think it's really interesting that we're gonna we actually
are writing a film.
Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
About the Barney to Amelia.
Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
About the Barney to Amelia Petas Pipeline, yes, and how
you get from one to the other. I do think
Carlos Sofia Gascon is incredible, extremely versatile performance and demanding performance.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
I think I think she did a cover recently for
a magazine where it was like the movie has inspired
a lot of love and hate, Carlos going right on.
Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Both woo like that's kind of shake. Yeah, that takes
have been very strong on them.
Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Movie. Yeah, Yeah, shall we do?
Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
I don't think so honey, let's do I don't think
so honey. Here we go first. I don't think so
honey of the New Year. But one thing that hasn't
changed is what I don't think, so honey, is it's
a one minute segment where we take sixty seconds, which
actually is a minute if you think about it, even
for more than one second, which is just one sixtieth
of a minute, where we rant and rave against something
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in pop culture that we are not jamming on. And
I actually I think I want to put something to
bed right here on the episode. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
This is Matt Rogers putting something to bed in his
I don't think so, honey, and his time starts now.
Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
I don't think so, honey any more jokes about holding space.
It's a new year. Turn the page. Literally, Nikki Glazer
four up those golden globes. We're so proud of you.
She did the last holding space joke. Beat her. You
can't beat that. You can't beat Tonight we celebrate movies
and hold space for television. That is the last holding
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space joke. And now it's becoming a thing where it's
like people are like, who are holding space? And that's
taking the space of a joke, just saying holding space
is not a joke. So we need to really think
about do we want to continue this narrative. The answer
has to be no, all respect to everyone involved. Was
a fun moment, but holding space jokes are done. We
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are no longer holding space for them. Even that was
too much, but.
Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
I don't know, you were just using it in a sentence.
Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
No, I don't think, so honey, anymore humor about this
because it actually isn't joke humor and I don't think,
so honey, humor over jokes. Hard jokes only go Nikki.
Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
And that's one minute you put it too bad, done,
It's done. You lowered the casket because.
Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Nicki Glazer, We're so proud of you. We're so proud
of you. Girl. That's on your gig ongoing because they
will have you.
Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
But yeah, you're you're coming back because that that's how
it works. Because best case scenario, if you kill at
hosting an awards show, they go do it again. Yeah,
and that is kind of great, but also torture.
Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Shout out. Matt Whitaker wrote on the show, just so great.
And I have to say what my favorite bit of
the whole thing was popular, and that was from the
brain of Matt. I love popular, I love what I started.
I love that. The bit was what it sucks? This sucks?
What do you mean this sucks? But she sounded good.
She rocks. Nikki, you don't just see Taylor Swift twenty
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two times. It was it twenty two. You don't just
see Taylor that many times and don't have your shit
together for your era's moment, of course.
Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
And I just love the way Nikki, Let's say, justifies
going to see the Earth Store twenty two times. She's like,
I don't have a kid. I don't go to nice
re restaurants. I don't I don't buy handbags or luxury clothes.
I go to This is how I choose to spend
my money. I went six off, go off to you,
my sister, to spend your money however you want to
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make yourself happy, and I will continue to do that as.
Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Long as other people are not suffering because of that.
You're fine.
Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
If you're not gambling your life away, if you're not
taking your money for your child, partner, whatever, do whatever
you want with it. I took myself to Japan, which
you know, and I have no fucking regrets.
Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
No, and nor should you, nor should you ever, not ever,
not ever, And I hope the same is true after
you do this. I don't think so, honey. I have
a kind of specific one.
Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
But I think I think we all have experienced this,
and I hope, I hope this is legible. And that's
a bad sign, right, I hope this reads you.
Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
I think you said, I think this is something we've
all experienced, and you hope it's legible. Yep, I know
you're gonna do it. This is Bowen Yang's I think,
so honey, as time starts now.
Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
I don't think so honey Instagram or TikTok ads that
are staged as like a fake podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Do you know what I'm talking about where it's like
two people and I might be like, I just tried
this new creating gummy what's it called. It's it's so
clearly staged, it's so clearly actors. It's like I'm learning
a new language with this.
Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
I just, first of all, I don't like podcasts being
used as advertising material period. Believe it or not, Matt
and I have been doing this for a long time.
Thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
It's so funny to be It's an interesting time in podcasts, right,
because I would not say you and I are like
podcasters in the way that like podcasters denote something. Now,
we're not like in the manisphere. We are not quite
in like I don't know, we're like not quite like
a showbiz podcast, but we're not quite like a pop
culture comedy podcast anymore. We defy categorization. And I don't
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like it when people use our form and medium to
create to try to sell and ship for bullshit.
Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
And that's one minute. The amount of ads we have
to do after this is so crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
That's different. That's so that we can keep the lights
on for us.
Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
If someone is aping our shit to fake like an
organic conversation about how much they love to use like
a UV phone sanitizer, that's weird to me. My god,
all those words. But you know what I mean, I
do that. That's what. That's why it isn't like anything
fake and anyway, it's like stupid, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
This is a thing. And I know for a fact
that people are experiencing this on their scrolls. I'm like, yeah,
this is a weird fucking thing. Why are we pretending
that this is a podcast?
Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Well probably also like who knows if it even is
actual human beings doing it, Like oh the AI. We
want to say thank you to whoever it was that
voted for us to be nominated or the iHeart Podcast
of the Year. Thank you, thank you so much. Hopefully
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we might win a second time. We might be like
Hillary Swank, oh my god, or think about that Merrill. Well.
I hope that people stop thinking. I really hope people.
Do you have any resolutions? I think we're over we're
too old. Do I have any resolutions? Honestly? My resolution
(01:23:24):
I think I had one, and then I was like,
it's always like pretty vague. It's like care less what
people think. Sure, I think I need to keep doing
what I'm doing. Keep doing what you're doing. That's that's
my resolution.
Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
Don't change a thing. I wouldn't change a thing, neither
would I have or you, honey. My resolution is my
year long project is to make this playlist that I
just want to have on while I'm cooking, cleaning.
Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
A life playlist. It's not a life.
Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
It's called my nighttime playlist, and it's like my wine
down like good because I was just in every bar
in Japan I was at, and I didn't go to
that many, but there was just like there's so many
nights where I would just be like and like just
the most beautifully decorated place and the vibes were just
sublime and the music was like an El Fitzgerald song
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or something.
Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
I was just like, Oh, I need to like curated.
Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
I need it, but I need to like draw this
out for my own life. I need like fun international music.
Not that elephants drawers internace, but you know what I mean.
Like it was just like I just want like music
to live.
Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
To just I think that is it sounds so silly.
I think there is a definish chance that you will
create this. I think there is a definish chance. We
didn't name this episode. That's kind of beautiful.
Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
What if untitled?
Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Oh? Untitled? Fine, what do we do? What do we
call it? Throwing Neck? Throwing Neck?
Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
This is episode one, throwing Throwing Neck our ninth year.
Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
Wow, that's a podcast twenty sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty one,
two three four Yeah this oh five?
Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
Well, I mean, like if you but it's it has
not been a full decade, Like it'll be a decade
when we hit twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
March twenty twenty six, we have to throw a big
party for our ten year anniversary. Where should we have it? Hooters?
I think there is a definition chance then we will
have it at Hooters. Oh my god, that will be amazing.
That'll be amazing the time score Hooters. Is there one
I don't know anymore. There's one in Toronto. We can
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do that. Oh, we could do that.
Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Yeah, that's a good one. I think there is a
definition chance. Should we call it definition? Should we call
this a definition chance? Or throwing neck?
Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Throwing neck? Throwing neck? People will love to see that. Oh,
you have me to throw neck, You have me to
throw neck. And before anyone jumps on our case, we've
given credit to Delta work million times popularizing the phrase.
Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
And we need.
Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Delta work on the podcast. Delta work on the podcast.
Now we need Delta work to me more.
Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
And Cookie Monster and Cookie Monster look for those Hmmm,
I think that's a good that's a residute.
Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
Look for the heroes. Look for the helpers, Look for
the helpers. We end every episode of the song.
Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
Many years I've waited for a gift like yours to
up Why I predict the Wizard may make you Lee's
magic grandvisy. I'll write at once to the Wizard, tell him.
Speaker 5 (01:26:53):
Advance with the talents like yours. There is Jeff in
the sands. If you work like you as.
Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
You should, you be may It is one of the
great moments things of culture.
Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
A moment of culture.
Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
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