"My Diaspora" (w/ Matt + Bowen)

Legal minds participate in a Silicon Valley summit to discuss the latest advances in tech, the CBSMTV Video Music Awards, and how Nick Jonas actually should start queerbaiting again if he feels like it. Also more.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Look may oh, I see you look over there is
that culture. Yes, lost culture, lost culture calling. We're just
saying we are. I would say we are in the
Menlo Park.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Stamford, Atherton, Mountain View area.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
We are in the Bay as it were.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
We were very lucky to be invited to the Odd Dropping.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
That's the name of the event this year, the.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Odd Dropping Inspiring. No hold on, let me better get
this right.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
It is well Boone is trying to say, is that
Apple invited us to come be a part of, not
be a part of, to come and well, I guess
be a part of it. We watched the keynote here
at Apple Park. We've got to come walk around Apple Park.
It's it's it is pretty, it's giving sever.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's giving severins in terms of design, in terms of design,
and everyone's kind of giving any.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Just kidding, I'm getting any.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
When I go there, I feel I feel that the
sort of hitchcock like camera move and then I like,
Fritz out.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Tell everyone what your belly button is giving. My belly
button has only ever given any. Have you ever been
with an audi man? Yeah, I want I want to
know what it's like. But I've been with so many men,
did you put it in you? What is mine? I
actually have an odd belly button. We're gonna have we
got to see the most normal belly button I've ever

(01:39):
seen it. No, because can you see that? It's like
it's got Audi like properties to it.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
You mean what you and that is pure? And no,
you're not so special girl, not. We're both pretty normal,
am my diaspora? Remember for years I used the word
diaspora wrong. You thought diaspora meant struggling.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Struggle.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, my diaspora is I wasay growing up, I didn't
know what diaspora really.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Sounds like that. I mean, maybe we can really give
it new meanings.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Well, when people talk about the diaspora, right, it does
feel like it could be the struggle. That's why the
title of this app is called the diaspora.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Is called my diaspora struggle.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
For at least it's my struggle.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
I mean. We got to have wonderful conversations with people. Yes,
this was very cool. Can I tease something that you
a connection that I knew what happened deep in my bones?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Go ahead, we go to this event.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
There's a gorgeous intimate dinner that is set the night
before the announcement.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
We look at the place cards. It's giving wedding, it's
giving heels on the grass. What are the nominees for
things that women have to do walking home alone? Or
for thing that women have to do which is and
them was heels on a grass at a wedding?

Speaker 1 (03:01):
It was very much giving.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
What a beautiful, beautiful dinner in Apple Park, which was dinner.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
It was gorgeous. We look at the place cards.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
We were being watched by a fay length of people
and we see that the place cards are Bowen matt
Oscar winner, Regina King.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Regina King sitting next to me, and I was just
I love Regina King since the second.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I saw her.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yo, of course like and I'm like, okay, well, this
is like a true hero of mine. You've known her
for a few years because she hosted snl im.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I've got reculd saying she's one of my favorite.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
That you had such an amazing time with her. I
just think she's one of the great and we had
I honestly won't share like our conversation, but we had
the most beautiful conversation.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
And I love Regina King. I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Please don't let me be patronizing, but I feel like
this is a situation when you're anxiety and your nerves.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Might have kicked in.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well, not on my new beta block, not on the
beta block, but thank god, can I.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Be the spokesperson for beta blockers?

Speaker 3 (04:06):
And it's not gonna be like the name dropping episode.
You guys like I just we sat next to an
extremely cool hero and that was just indicative of what
the whole lovely event was. And if you follow tech,
you know that lots of cool things were announced. I mean,
I think the buzziest thing might be the AirPods that

(04:26):
do language translation. Right, let's say, yeah, that's pretty cool.
Although they you were excited about the iPhone.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Air, I'm excited about the iPhone Air. That's very you coded.
She's cunty. Yeah, that a cunty video GLP.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
But for phones she's taking the shot she's taking out,
it's actually really culture number sixteen iPhone she's taken in
the shot.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I think internally people are also calling it the ozembic iPhone.
Are they really? Yes?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Did you hear that on the ground? I heard that
on the ground. It's kind of fun, little fun, little
gig guy, you know, dey gig. I speak lots of
different guys.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Weren't there straight guys, gay guys, guys you can't tell?
And of course women now, which is of course a
falls under gay guys.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yes, women are some of my favorite gay guys. And
that's a real cult. That's a real culture in which
one is that fifty women are some of my favorite
gay guys. Katie's out there, shout out, shout out. Not
pro parana law? Is that what you're on? Yes? How
does he feel? Take a? Take a? It doesn't make

(05:31):
you lall more?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
It? Well, I guess so called pro pray yes law,
so to be transpitt proper yes y'all, proper yes la,
proper yes law, yes.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Y'all, or proper yes yes y'all. What's that song? Don't
I'm not sure? Oh past that Dutch? Yes?

Speaker 3 (05:47):
The Elliot anyway, that's that's beside the point, Missy Elliott
is beside the point.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
It's a real coach.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Number thirty is beside the point, which he's not Yes.
During the Cultural Awards, I did realize my anxiety as
a problem, as I've documented on this podcast. I am
on beta blockers now. I take them when I need them.
I highly recommend much better.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
I'm so happy to hear that.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
But I needless to say, with your fabulous night, and
I love that my sister and the Queen King truly
is literally Queen King got to connect, not to you
know what do you want us to say?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
We got invited to the album?

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Sorry, but if I get the opportunity to talk to
one of the coolest people ever, I'll probably tell you
about it. So that did happen. It was It was fun.
I mean like we were still here. We're leaving tonight.
We're actually getting on a red eye this evening because
we have two episodes of the podcast that we're according
tomorrow with guests, very exciting guests.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
We reveal is on the show next week. I say, no, okay,
never mind, let's not should it just be a drop?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I think it'll be a drop and people will, You're
gonna gag.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
We'll have fun.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Let's just say, if you're a fan of this podcast
and you know our interests, you're gonna be excited and
interested to hear what's coming.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Here's the Easter egg, which is not the way that
Easter eggs are really done.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
It's back to school. Yes, it's back to school. Yes,
that's all.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
School is in session and pencils.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Pencils up, pencils up? Whoa should title that be pencils up?
First time?

Speaker 2 (07:19):
We're pre determining the title the title of that first time?
Or are you saying that for next week should be
pencils up? Pencils up?

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Isid next week with our guests? Yes, of course I
thought you. I thought this one was gonna be my diaspora.
But I like pencils up too. I don't think I've
ever been so not. Nervous is not the right word. Actually, yeah,
maybe it is nervous. I do. And we've had some
incredible guests, like what we're doing tomorrow. It's important to me,
it's special to me. Absolutely, Yeah, this is.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
A big moment. No, it'll be really really nice.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
And I just love edging y'all. I love y'all are
heard at home? I love it. I love thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, I love thinking about it too. What's on your
mind today?

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Mostly just wanting to just figure you know what.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I just I hate a red eye. I'm sorry. No, no, no, that's.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Literally been taking up a lot of and not an
interesting take at all. No, I but some people really
do they pick the Red Eye. They choose the Red Eye.
Greta does that.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
My thing is it's you know, it's always good in theory,
and then once you're once you're on it, whatever, it's off,
and it's when you land and when you get off
the plane and do that that zombie walk that you're like,
this is I hate paid for that.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
It's going west to east, which is the brutal thing
that usually as I guess because that way, like, well,
that's I guess a red Eye. Yeah, time travels, it's
just as the time is additive. Remember the Ryan Carrera
song time goes so slow, time moves so oh.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
No, I don't you know, remember that I have Ryan
on the brain.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Because we saw an appearance from Jessica and Ashley Simpson
at the VMA's.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yes, yes, she was talking about the VMAs. Yeah, what
was your favorite part?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I My favorite part was just the mere fact that
Ariana Grande and Leading Gaga were sitting next to each other.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I did like to see that rain on me reunion
very fun. Would you call Arianna the big winner of
the night, I would. I think it would be Ari Gaga,
Sabrina Sabrina. I mean, Tate was a great winner in
my eyes. I think she God, she's a good performer.
That one wait winners in terms of how good her
performance was. Did she win a VMA.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
I don't know she won anything. I was not keeping
up with the actual one.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Let's actually look and see what won. But I'm saying,
like Tate McCrae, that was. That was legendary. That was
that was the legend star making performance. Yeah, she's had
many at this up until this point, but that was
I think that was a level up.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
For sure. That was an extreme.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
But also if you see her perform live, like you're
going to get the dancing, and I do think, like
when you're on the VMAs, it is the time for
you to without your dancing.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I thought Sabrina's dancing was really leveled.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
The abulous dancing, and I love that the advocacy, the
the ally ship for trans people was off the stage
as well.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
She threw a Sabrina fifty four party. Love that love
that girl.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
By the way, everyone all of a sudden coming out, Wow,
the Sabrina album is really growing on me. Yeah, because
that's what happens when you allow things to marinate.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
When you don't have the knee jerk. Literally before the end.
We talked about this before the album even comes out.
People are coming out with their quick responses. Okay, you
wouldn't just eat a steak off a cow. You have
to let it marinate before you can eat it, to
say nothing of cooking it. There's such a process when
it comes to meat and also pop music, especially at
culture in over sixteen. There's such a process when it

(10:51):
comes to meat and all and also pop music.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Speaking of meat, the Video of the Year presented by
Burger King.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
This is a real fact. Did go to Arion and
Grande for Brighter Days Ahead. Thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Thank you for that. Aria Grande an elderly prosthetic makeup.
That is camp. That is I heard heard her being
an old ass bitch at Cerebro. Not since Rose have
we seen such an old performance. Yes, and not since
Gloria S. Stuart's Gloria Stuart Artist of the Year. Lady
Gaga absolutely feels right to me. Best new artist Alex Warren.

(11:29):
I have to say I have an Alex Horren blind spot.
But they talk about this person.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, I think I think it's fine. Okay, that's my thoughts.
Song of the Year, apt to Love that. You can't
deny people are listening to it. You can't deny that
it's a song about a game that you do. That
that that that that Rose plays with her friends in Korea?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Is that what it is? I got a little hand.
It's like a patty cake sort of.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Thing, okay, because it could mean some any things. It
could mean up like someone's spitting apartment. It could be
an apartment because.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
It's a drinking game. I'm sorry I had I mean.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I definitely like the song. I just I did not
know what it was about. It was scared to ask.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
It's it's it's based on the sort of okay, it's
Paddy kick. And then everyone puts their drinks in the
middle they chant as apartments, and then they stated and
then the leader calls out a random number. Players move
their hands at the top of the stack, counting out laud.
The person whose hand lands on the call number has
to drink.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Sounds fun, It does sound fun. I mean, maybe next
week we'll play apt.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Where I don't know. I don't think we will. I
think if there was going to be a time to
do apit it would have been lost. Regina.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Okay, last night we should have roped the mics, or
we could have learned what oppuita was and done it
today on the episode. But I just don't think we
will know Best Pop Artist Sabrina Carpenter. Great feels exactly
right to me. Best Pop I'm guessing that means best
pop video. They've kind of stopped using.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
The word video. You know, why do you think that is?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
I guess there's video over the year, but then it's
called best There's there's best pop artist, and then there's
best Pop. So best Pop Artist was Sabrina Carpenter, who
defeated Ariana Grande in this category, and then best Pop
was Ariana Grande Bradigers Ahead, which defeated Sabrina Carpenter. Manchild
defeat so severe defeat is too much for me. You
should say beat Yeah. Best Album Sabrina Carpenter shortened sweet Again.

(13:30):
It's the Video Music Awards. I don't necessarily understand, yeah,
but I'm so happy Sabrina won an award Best Collaboration
Lady Gaga and Brudo Mars died with a smile.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
If we can all agree, of course, beat up A two.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Best Hip Hop doci anxiety, best R and B Mariah
Carey type dangerous wonderful, who also won the Video Vanguard
of the Year Award. Bianca made an appearance. She did
which yeah with Bianca the original mistress of Mayhem dark
Haired Clone. Yes, I think you know, Lady Gaga would
say that, Doga would say that.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
But I encouraged pop stars to do this more.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
I mean, I feel like we haven't had a moment
like this since Brittany was wrestling herself in a gown
in the Hold It against Me music video.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Really, I always love when the pop stars are fighting themselves.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
You know who I think would be really good at that.
I would love to see dark Sabrina. Oh, dark Sabrina,
I think would be really good. While I'm while I'm
thrilled that she brought Jenna Ortega into the mix with
the taste for it felt like it could have also
been Sabrina in a dark way. Sabrina, you should have
cast yourself. You played yourself when you didn't cast yourself.

(14:40):
Fuck Ortega, Fuck this, No, just kidding, Jenna, I mean
we worship you and Jenna.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
We worship.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Mariah the Video Vanguard Award after never winning a Video
Music Award in her entire career. I said this was
true disrespect all along. This woman put Jack McBrayer on
the map.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
On the map. Sorry to Nah, Sorry Tina. Yeah that
is crazy, yo. Thoughts on that, I mean, please experience.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
First of all, there are so many Mariah Carey videos
that earned that should have earned this distinction.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
I would say Heartbreaker is one of the great.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Pop music videos upsassed, even going all the way back.
Like you know, Mariah Carey directed the video for Fantasy
herself where she rides a roller coaster and is on
the roller blades. I mean to direct while also acting
in roller blades. Not enough people think about how difficult
that must.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Corse it has never done it.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Scorsese couldn't even listen. I know that scores. He's trying
his hand in acting, you know.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I mean, not ready for the studio. Do it in
roller blades and then you can be on Mariah Carey's
level and sing.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
And guess what, Marty Cranston still beat your ass.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, that's a Marty Martin. What if we lost cult started?

Speaker 2 (15:59):
If Marty, I think we are I think ever since
I ran a fowel of fran labelwit. I think she
probably recruited Marty to the cause of like that, ain't
that Asian guy?

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
I forget that you and fran lebowit's had beef. As
Carti would say a debate. We didn't touch on any
of that.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
I touched on the Cardi thing. I loved it.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
I hate that her time was wasted. I hate her
time is wasted, but doesn't get any better than that.
In terms of album promo, no, I thought she handled
herself very well, even when she did curse hour throw
that thing at that fucking disgusting ass paparazzo. She made
a point. She was like the fact that not a
like a woman would never ask me that. It's not

(16:45):
like it's not that she said, the fact that you
would never ask a man that. It's the fact that
a woman would not ask me that. Yeah, as I
take like kind of a fun not fun. It's like
it's like an interesting reversal that you don't hear super often.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
I love Cardi. I'm team Cardi, will always be team Cardi.
I just yeah, I mean, I'm really looking forward to
the album. You realize it's been I think like seven
years since Invasion of Privacy, which is one of the
great albums.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
One of the great albums. We don't have much to add.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
No. One thing I would say is if I had
a favorite moment from the whole trial, which I do.
It feels like every year there's like a celebrity trial
that that sort of breaks them old. You know what
it's going to be next year is probably because I
think that they are going to trial right the Blake
and Ryan of it all. Well, that's not gonna be fun. No,

(17:37):
it's gonna it's not gonna be fun at all. I
couldn't be less interested. But that's probably gonna be like
the trial of next year. You need fun people. Cardi
b is a fun person. Yeah, what was your favorite
moral moment of the of the Cardi trial.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
I wasn't calling her fat, I was calling her a bit.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
I was calling her a bitch. I mean, just security heavy.
She looks like she can protect the building.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Oh my god, she she's a poet.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
I couldn't did you watch any of Like the way
the lawyer was talking to her.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
It was awful.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
I was like, how can this be what it is?
But okay, So another thing I learned and I did
learn what it means to be a hostile witness. That's
an actual legal term.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
I see. I thought that a.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Hostile witness was just to describe the behavior of a
waste attitude.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Let's say like, oh, we have a hostile witness.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
But then it was like, here's CARDI B being called
as a hostile witness, which means an antagonistic witness, a
witness that is hostile to the defendant the plaintiff.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
So basically, like like you say, you can be the
defendant and the hostile witness.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yes, I often. I think defendants are hostile witnesses because
they're being asked questions that are adverse to them protecting themselves.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
The line of questioning from the from whatever is is
that's what's hostile.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
So basically, if you're a defendant, if you're a named
defendant in a case, and you take the stand, you
are a hostile witness, see because they're trying to present
facts against you against correct So you are a hostile
witness by definition. So for example, had P did he
taken the stand, he would have been a hostile witness.

(19:22):
This is my understanding of it.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I don't have a degree giving lawyer.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
You think I'm giving lawyer. I do think that you
give doctor and I give lawyer. Absolutely. By the way,
let's start the revolution and just pronounce it lawyer, lawyer.
It's more fun.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Lawyer is something that is East Coast culture sort of
being thrust onto the rest of you know, because you
know in the UK they just call them barristers. Yeah,
I don't want to do that. We're not calling them barristers.
I mean, I guess you know there are attorneys. That's
my lawyer, lawyer, that is that is I'm sorry, that's
New York culture being sort of imposed on the rest

(20:05):
of America.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Can I say the legal process also, and for next week?

Speaker 1 (20:12):
That might have given it a one and gave it
away girl, but that's.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Okay, fuck girl. Huh title of that fuck girl, fuck
come a girl girl. Okay, So yeah, I would say
that I did learn that hostile witness thing.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I do think that.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Liar is similar to it's no lie hey, because lawyers
deal with liars.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I mean, they are liars sometimes. Everything about that.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'm just trying to make it a little bit easier
for our ESL friends exciting me, including me, because guess.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
What Bowen Yang is ESL English was a trip. It
still is.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Bowen Yang is esl. It's actually really coach number fourteen.
Bowhen Yang is yes etl etl. If you want to
get real, If you want to get real, English is
your third language, which is something I tell people about you.
What do you tell people? What's a fact that you
tell people about me? Because these are the fact that
I tell people about you. Did you actually know that
Bowen it's English is his third language? Did you know

(21:18):
that Bowen was born in Brisbane? I tell the story
of Bau. What's the story you tell about me? It's
this is doing yet and really this is get really earnest.
I don't mean to embarrass you, but I say.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
You my Routers is the funniest, smartest person in the life. Well,
that's opinion based, that's fact. It's fact and not that
that is the story that I tell.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
I'm tearing up. What do you think won the Award
for Video for Good? You as one of the stars
of Wicked for Good?

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Oh that's so thank you for framing the question that way.
The nominees were, Oh, well, don't tell me. The nominees
the video for Good?

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, like like video for Good, which I think is
very similar to Arch, which was west Elm a social
change one.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Whenever here, I think that the winner for Video for
Good was any any TikTok that was that was about
that was an ad for those like nostril expanders.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
No, those should have won, though they were actually robbed.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
They were the notional expander because you go on TikTok
and they would have you believe if you don't use them,
you're gonna choke.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
And die will so that you are depriving your brain
of the e that you're a dumber, uglier person for
non breathing in more through your note.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Did you ever buy them? No? You know what I
did buy? Please? TikTok got me with this one. Okay.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Have you ever seen the push up board which you
can take the plugs out like the handles?

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Oh? Yeah, that looks cool. I bought I Do you
use it every day of your life? You know what?

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Not every day in my life, but sometimes because it
it like it like isolates different you can do different
grips and different yeah holds, just ants holds and oh
all right, so the video for Good?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, tell what I did that?

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
And who who?

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Just tell me who won? Unless it's more fun for
you to do at that. If I tell you who
won it could well, I mean that is giving away.
It was won by Charlie XX and Billie Eilish for guests.
It changed everything. Well it did show us like, god,
this is what a pile of underwear looks like. Maybe
I should not be maybe should be more sustainable in
my peril.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, you know, how did it win?

Speaker 3 (23:28):
I guess what I'm going to assume is that they
watched it, donated it was queer rights that and also
I'm sure like how was this the video of the video,
Like I'm sure like we missed something where it's like
we're donating this much money to some like oh my god,
wait this is what it is? And this actually is curious. Okay,
it wasn't. It wasn't any of this. This is what
it was. The video ends with a message that the

(23:52):
undergarments not worn in the video would be donated to
I Support the Girls, an American charity which distributes underwear
and period product to women sufferating suffering, suffarating don't know what.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Do you mean they were?

Speaker 3 (24:06):
This is serious, I'm sorry, and period products to women
suffering domestic violence homelessness and hardship. The charity later said
that it had received ten thousand pairs of underwear, most
of which was sexy, and its founder, Dana Marlowe, stated
that they welcomed such a donation on the grounds that
it was important to them to encourage choice choice of
what kind of you know, undergarment to wear. She was

(24:28):
quoted as saying, there's people for every style. Just because
somebody is experiencing homelessness doesn't mean.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
That they don't prefer to wear a thong.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
That was what Dana Marlowe said talking to the BBC
News Beat in August twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
So this won the VMA for Good. Yeah, and I
we applied.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
I endorse this. We endorse this, Dana. The only thing
missing from your statement was you did not guess the
color of her underwear.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
It was the lacy black pair with the little bows,
the ones I pity pick out for you in tokey
Yo or We're gonna go next year, We're gonna go
next year.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
I always whenever I hear that song that remix, I
always think of Billie Eilish going shopping for lacey underwear
in Tokyo, picking it out for Charlie.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Presumably Charlie likes boys, but she knows I'd hit it.
I actually think it's this is a big statement. I
your favorite song off of it might is it my
favorite song off of BRAT?

Speaker 1 (25:31):
No? You know what's my favorite song off of Bratt?
All things told?

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Well, the song I think is the biggest classic off
BRAT and I'm just always gonna hold to this is
three sixty uh huh, And I think three sixty and
three sixty five together is truly special. But my favorite
song off of BRAT is one.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Dutchy Sympathy is a knife love.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Love and Von Dutch is the closest second there's ever been,
the closest second there's ever been in recorded history.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
What's your no? Yes, I don't know, man, Just something
about three six five?

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
It goes so hard where.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
You're just like where you once like on your end,
like your third listen, where you're finally starting to understand
the pattern of it. Yeah, and how she breaks the
pattern in the middle and then like comes back to it.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
I'm like, this is this is fucking genius.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
And that's saying something coming from noted apple girl bohen Yang.
I just want to clear something up. Yeah, this actually
would be a good good time to clear clear it up,
because it's Brat is happening right now. Brad is happening
right now. Brat is the most relevant. Brat is relevant

(26:42):
in September twenty twenty five. This is what, this is
what Bratt is starting. Not no, because guess what. Apparently
Charlie had an amazing showing a tiff a rupture. I
can't wait for this. Oh no, prease, I'm so ready
for Charlie's actress era and everyone's saying very promising things
ahead one.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I mean, she can hold this chicken hole any screen.
But what was the question? Oh, the question was a
patterned oh noted apple girl.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, apparently it's it's been proliferated now that codin Gray
is the only Apple Girl who has also been Sally.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Nope, not true. Please don't erase me.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
You better get your facts straight, Get your facts straight.
I don't appreciate that Bowen was Sally.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Where were you, Salad? I was Sally. Guess what the
tonight show Stary? Is that? Where you were Sally?

Speaker 3 (27:33):
I thought that you came out of the show. I
don't even know this about you, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Honey, it's out there, okay, And then Tucker will go
on to say in interviews that sorry, I was one
of his face favorites because why.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
I danced like a little kid one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
I watched that interview because I'm kind of obsessed with
Romo though he's by the way, you know who we
also hung out with at the Apple Park and we
saw her and it was like we had seen a
long lost friend, like our cousin in I've only met
her once and you had her before. But the one,
the only Lena Donam who just did a movie with

(28:08):
Natalie Portman and role model a A Tucker and apparently
you can look forward to him being a movie star.
He has It's quite cheap. He has it, that's all
We'll say. He's he's got that star quality. He absolutely does.
And guess what this man, I don't know what his
sexuality is. There was bikon rumors, if there if the

(28:30):
if I don't whatever, I'm sure we're gonna hear, you know, things,
the word queer baiting in the discourse again.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Maybe when it comes to him. I don't care, because.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
This man is guess who, I don't think he is
posting pictures of Brandon from Sean Cody on his Instagram,
making jokes about how like you know role model stunts
in new photo like this, like you know what they
can queerbit if they know what's up.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
I don't care about the queer baiting. Can I say?

Speaker 3 (28:58):
I think the world got darker once Nick Jonas stopped
posting shirtless photos, Like I don't know why everyone was
like I think there was a moment there where like
they had Nick Jonas speak at Stonewall and maybe that
was going.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Too far, but like why did we scare Nick.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Jonas away from post? Like what are we doing? Like
you're not helping your favorite for real?

Speaker 1 (29:18):
You know.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
When I was in fourth grade, we had to do
a class project and I've never told this story before
where we had to go out and from sticks and
mud we had to create long houses Native American longhouses
And this was an entire day long project and I
remember at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Not sure what's this going.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
At the end of the day, you have to listen
to every story to get to the end. It's actually
really culture number six. You have to listen to every
story to get to the end. At the end of
the day we had there had to be clean up.
And my teacher, mister d who was my favorite teacher. Oh,
I'll never forget it because one of the it was
one of the only times he got upset with me

(30:01):
because I was not helping.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
I was goofing off.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
If you can picture me no as a fourth grader,
you can understand. He goofed. I bet that cute socializing
disturbed learning. And he looked at me, and in front
of the whole class, he said, if you're not helping,
you're hurting. I never forgot it, and I'm telling everyone

(30:30):
in the queer community right now, if you chased Nick
Jonas away from posting thirst traps, you're not helping.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
You're hurting.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
And now all we get is Joe Jonas walking around
the stage.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Looking looking like that.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
And we could have had two Jonas brothers giving us
I'm sorry, but.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Ass we're not actually wagging her fingers at anybody. But
there's was a world in which straight men could have
come into the fold. We could have made it a
little bit easier for them to be allies so that
they didn't all.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Move to Austin.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Okay, yeah, that's all I'm saying, I'm just like, why
was it so bad that Nick Jonas wanted to like
wiggle it in front of us?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Just let him. Some of us were really enjoying it.
And maybe there's parts of this I'm not thinking about.
I'm just saying, if you're not helping, you're hurting. You
didn't help here, what's mister d doing now? I would
be really curious to know. I would be really curious
to know. I'll say it. I think that in fourth grade.

(31:35):
So I'm a noted lifelong.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Mets fan, and he was a Yankees fan, and I
started I remember I came home one day from school.
I looked at my dad and said, I'm a Yankees fan,
and he was like, okay, sure, And then I started
wearing Yankees jerseys and Derek Jeter clothes. Oh man, I
think I'm old enough now and enough of a you know, realized,

(31:57):
actualized person to say I had a crush on my teacher.
He sounds hot, he was handsome, he was handsome and funny.
That's oh, well, there you go, done deal. He had
one big flaw, which is yelling and children. Well no,
he wasn't yelling. He was stern, and he had right
to be one one thing he didn't do correctly, and ultimately,

(32:20):
in the grand scheme of things, he can be forgiven
for this. But he pronounced it Hermion, Well, that was
before the film. That was before Goblet of Fire.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Star we're talking.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
You know, I'm sorry, guys, we're going into this territory,
but this is before Goblet of Fire where JK. Rowling
felt the explicit need to have Victor, yeah, to have
hermided correct Victor Crumb's pronunciation of it.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
I was like, yeah, yeah, I'll never forget read it
because that was Goblet of Fire was peak.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
We're going at midnight culture. So I remember.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
I was like, I think I might have even gotten
to that part of the book, like hours into the Night,
and I said, that was that iconic little passage where
she's spelled selling her name out for Victor Crumb. So
can you really blame mister d I certainly can't. That's
his and that's his big flaw. That's a pretty good flaw. No,
he was amazing, he was great, and I hope he's well.

(33:14):
I hope he's well. He had an impact on me,
and you know what he told me at the end
of the year, which I never forgot.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
He took every student outside and he gave one.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Piece of advice, you know, when he told me, I
remember you've said this before, you to have more fun
because I just to take myself very seriously. I was
like even that one day I goofed off, but I
was like really into school and like was I was
kind of that kid that was like it's in my
handle lot looking at people's papers, like being competitive. He's like, hey, listen,
have more fun because not everything has to be so serious.

(33:43):
And then I never saw anything seriously again. And we
have him to thank That was a long walk from
how did I start? Well, we what got us into
that goddess?

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Into that?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Oh you're Nick Jonas. You should come back, come back
to Broadway. You got all the comeback to Broadway.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
You got all the goods. We see, you had the shows.
Please uh quoting a role model a role model? Yeah,
oh please go for it. Go for it, go for
it in your little hat. You know what I'm saying.
Anywhere's a little hat.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Like okay, A lot of talk about
like your performative masculinity or all you know, men performing
as men, and it's.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Like but it's like you didn't, you gotta.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
You can't yoke them because if either they like are
catering quote unquote to like women and queer people, or
they just like they have no other recourse but to
like adopt all the terrible.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Things about being male in the year twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
It's like it's like and then like we're we're absolutely
I mean performing is gay men and in our way,
like everyone's everyone's kind of picking up their cues and
their social proof from each other. We're not qualified to
talk about this in any intellectual way.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
We are not qual fight to talk about any single item.
And yet we still are here ten years in the game. Well,
you know, it's going to be ten years in March
on March I think eleventh, twenty twenty five, and we
I don't know that this is the way it is,
but five hundred is going to fall around this ten
year anniversary. I think unless this is literally the five
hundredth episode and we don't know, which is possible, we'll

(35:21):
count it.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
It's that no, not right now. Imagine we did just
an episode. The rest of the episode is just us
counting one two.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
So nice to say we've not once been qualified to
talk about a single thing. Maybe we're qualified to talk
about being unqualified. Oh my god, absolutely, that's our ted talk. Yeah,
do it even though you shouldn't. I think that is gonna.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Do it, even though you shouldn't. Nick Jonas, I hope
you come to our ted talk.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah sure, yeah, fine. He shouldn't be speaking at stone Wall.
Let him, But who cares? What did he What did
he say that bothered you so much? Probably nothing. I
don't think he came with a speech. He probably went
up there and was like, yeah, guys, I'm an ally.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
He got upset. He never took his clothes off. Again,
he's a never nude shame. What a shame. It is
a shame and a lovely human being. Have you met him? Yes? Yeah, sure, sweet,
yeah truly. You know you and I are just waxing
idiotic as we usually do. Honey, honey, we've embraced it. Honey. Ouch.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
I just waxed idiotic and I didn't have enough glue on.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
What is it? What? What's what? What? What is it?
What do they put on? Wax ow ow? That glue hurt?

Speaker 3 (36:50):
So yes, anyway, I did not know that that was
where all the money from the guest music Video or
not the money the underwear, and yeah, that is why
it won the Music Video for gud I see oh
we're still yes.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Back to VMAs. I love when we retrace.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Well, this is our big VMA episode Best Group, Black
Pink Song of the Summer, Tate McCrae.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Just keep watching. You know what that's interesting? I just
love just keep watching. I do was it the song
of the summer?

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Right? So these are let's just see one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen.
There were sixteen nominees for some out this summer. How
does that work?

Speaker 1 (37:33):
I can't think of sixteen songs that came out there.
Here's what they are. Tate McCray, just keep watching.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Addison Ray headphones on, Alex Warren, Ordinary, Benson Booon, Mystical Magical,
didn't know that was his song, Big X the Plug
featuring Bailey Zimmerman all the Way.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Don't know what a single part of that.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Rare Chapel on the Subway, Demi Lovato fast, Well just wait.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Oh brother, we'll be here all night. Let's just say that.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Let's just say that Doja cat jealous type that just
came out Hunter X oh this is this is the
K Pop Demon Hunter's song Golden, Jesse, Murph Blue Strips,
Justin Bieber, Daisy's.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
We Love Daisy's Shake It.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
To the Max by Molly Silent, Addie Skillibang and Shenzi Okay,
Morgan Walling featuring Tate McCray, What I Want, Raven Linnet
featuring Rex Orange County, Love Me Not, Sabrina Carpenter, Manchild,
There's a song I Know and Somber twelve to twelve.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, and we're not going to do the thing where
we're like who are these people? Because that is like
probably the most peevish thing that I can think of
saying in this date and age.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
But peevish, and we're not doing it. We're not doing it.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
But I guess out of those Manchild, gold Golden, I
feel like I was. I was hearing everywhere. Did you
watch K Pop demon Hunt? I did not finish.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
I didn't either, but all good.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
I don't think it's for us. I think it's bright
colors for the kids.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I that's my thing is. I was like love it.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, I couldn't get invested in like a story, but
I did think that animation was amazing, and I thought
some of the songs were fun. I was just like
with with my time, I wasn't gonna watch that whole thing.
Oh good, but but go off and good for you
Joel Kim Booster for being in it, Sleigh.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, did you know? Oh my god, I think he
kept a secret from us. That's shake.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
He's not only a secret keeper, no, but I he
kept this one pretty close to the fucking sexy little chest.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Joel. Oh, Joel. Anyway, Uh.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
The Latin icon of war was Ricky Martin, and it
was that was so funny watching everyone being like, oh
my god, he's so hot.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
He's age weel, It's like, yeah, where are you been?
Where are you been?

Speaker 3 (39:57):
He's hot? People tend to age hot. In this case,
it's like storied to noted he stayed hot. He actually
is and one of the greatest specimens we have, truly
great specimen inside and out, an angel on this earth.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
He's so you've gotten to meet him? Yes, oh, I'm sorry,
you get whatever up there. You've gotten to meet him.
Just a sweetie, okay, yeah, I uh yeah. This was
so Ultimately, Lady Gog got four wins. Ariana Grande and
Sabrita Carpenter are three wins.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Let's let's talk about the legendary thing that was that night,
which is that gets her award, runs over flam Island
to Madison Square Garden, does takes a later stage, goes
on stage at a later time because of the v
A may wins, which is all you know, pre planned

(40:55):
in the logist of the movements are all you know, arranged,
all good, but for her to fucking go from that
to that and do the mayhemball, do the Mayhem baal,
do the whole disease moment with the top down camera
in the in the sort of grave litter box with
the moon man like cow off.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
I'm still thinking about that show. I mean, anyway, it's.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
It's it is, It's it's about culture moment of the year, right,
I think, So what's coming close, let's let's let's just
let's just cap it at Q one two, Q three
for for for what we've experienced so far, Well, the
fact is we can't experience what we've not yet experienced.
We can't get into Q four. We haven't experienced it.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I pray, I pray for all of us in the
lift prayer, anything else to talk about.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
I love when Bowen Yang wants to stop. Not that
just like, well, make this a quick one and.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Then just like flit away and I'm like, no, no,
I'm with you, man, not bad, not bad?

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Okay, what else? What else?

Speaker 2 (42:13):
No?

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Not really, I guess I do have an I don't
think so, honey, that is relevant to.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
My pop culture moment of the week. I see, I'm
ready to do it. We don't. I'm sorry, we don't
have to end the oup.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
No, no, no, we actually kind of do because I want
you guys to This is a peek behind the curtain.
We're actually recording this episode the latest we've ever had
to turn it in. It is almost five pm PSD
on Tuesday, September ninth, So you're gonna be hearing this
right after we do it. Because we were so excited
to be invited by Apple and we came here and
it's been the last couple days, our schedules have been

(42:47):
it's been a little much, and so just just so
you know for the future, we're about to do a
lot of backlogging with very special guests. I was looking
I think that we literally have like we know who
are next like fifteen guests are gonna be wow because
we're doing something very different than we have, which is
Bow and Yang is gonna be yours turning just saurda

(43:08):
night Live.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Do you have anything? Do you have anything to say
about your big return the and what's going on.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I am thrilled to go back. I will miss some
people who are not coming back very very much, and
that's it. I just look forward to taking my post.
Take your post, girl, I get to your muster stations.
It's time to must. It's time to must.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Oh. I love that it's time time to must. It's
time to must.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
I want to say one thing and I'm just gonna
like say this like because I believe it to be true.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Heidi Gardner, you are one of the greats.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
You are one of the greats. You will go down
and you will go down as one of the greats.
You are one of the funniest people ever. I just
want to share a little anecdote, which is I went
to just for laughs with Heidi Gardner in twenty seventeen
New Faces Characters, and I'll never forget you. When you
do New Faces, you do one performance in a huge
theater and I'll never forget Heidi went second. I went ninth,

(44:11):
and so I like was rehearsing. I was late in
the show and she had gone, and then we did
a just so I didn't get to see her because
I was busy getting ready the next day. You do
it in a very small space, and so I got
everyone got to watch each other because we've already done it,
we'd already rehearsed everything. And I'll never forget watching her
perform in like that small space and like seeing just

(44:33):
the micro things.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
She was doing with her face. Heidi is a true actress.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
She reminds me of Cecily and that she like really
embodies to the bone her characters. She's created so many
brilliant ones. And I knew then that she was special,
and all these years later, I still know it. I
fucking love Heidi Gardner and that show was made so
much better for her being on it, And I just
love Heidi.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
She would be one of the only house members who
the room internally on Wednesday could trust with being a
solo writer on Yeah. You know they have they have
our names at the top of each skepuscript. You know
they like Green Gillespie, you know Yang yim, like it
would be like Rogers Yang or whatever. And then you know,

(45:18):
if it's it's always like a very very vulnerable thing
as a cast members like put only your name on it,
like there's just like something in the rooms kind of shifts.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
But anytime you saw just Gardner, you knew you were
in good hands.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
She would take it upon herself to write pieces.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
For other casts.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
She wrote That's amazing a whole ass update feature for
Punky Johnson one year.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Wow. I love that. I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
It was just the most it was one of the
most beautiful, kindest gestures I've ever seen at that show.
And her heart was so big and clearly so fucking funny.
She was great, a true anchor on that show. And uh,
you know, especially in those lockdown days during COVID, like

(46:04):
it was just so weird. This is just I mean,
we all kind of like had people I hope do this,
but like one of the first people who's just like okay,
like just to get through this, like let's just each
wake up or you know, no rush, there's no time
and whatever, like let's just each text each other every day.
Something that like made us smile today and like that
was like this like foothold that I had emotionally in

(46:25):
terms of like knowing like we were just sharing music
and just a truly beautiful person.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
We're not I'm talking about her like she's she's past.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
But I mean, I but it was funny because you
were like she had such a big heart.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
We did, but we're just commemorating, Yeah, because it's worth
it too when someone's added at somewhere for eight years and.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Did unbelievable work, really true and and you know what
I mean, and is a like deeply talented good person.
And I will also say, you know, I would I
go to the show many times to visit you and
see you once. Iataur days in your dressing rooms are
conjoined or they're neighboring rather and she always just has
the coolest friends, the most colorful group of people around her,

(47:12):
just like the vibes that are always like there's always pizza
in there, Like I just love Tidy's dressing room.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Like she's got an incredible personality.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
She's an amazing performer and she's a great person, yes,
and and I just think she deserves to be given
her propers as she exits that show.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Absolutely and one of our favorite updates is absolutely.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yep, me you wanted a fella come on. Height is
so great. She's just the best.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
And and just to shout out Devin Emil Michael Longfellow,
they were fantastic comedians going in.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
They are fantastic comedians coming out.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
And I gotta reserve commat you know, man, just those
are those are some A plus love and we welcome.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
We're not gonna nick jonas.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
You out of the queer community, got Meil.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Doughty anyways, and excited about the new people.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
This is gonna be great. M h here we go,
so I have it. I don't think so honey, to do.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
This is Matt Robers. I don't think so many as
time starts. I don't think so honey that there's no
way to clean.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Just watch Survivor Australia versus the World in this country
that we call and I'm using air quotes America because
in my America, first of all, a lot.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Of this ship isn't going down.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
But you could definitely watch Australia versus the Role on
a streaming service. I don't exactly know what's up with Paramount,
but I know this ball has been so dropped and
it's gone down the street. Kids are crying because they
can't find their ball. Oh and now I'm.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Going to serve it. And now I'm gonna spoil it
with my final thirty. It's been spoiled.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Parvety Shallow, you will always be not just famous, the
best surmover player of all time. And now it is fact.
A second win, a flawless game, no votes cast against her,
iconic and bespoke idol plays, unbelievable like deference from everyone

(49:30):
playing that game till the very end. They had no
choice but to crown Parverty Shallow the best winner of
all time.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
And I don't think so, honey, that we can't just
watch it. You gotta pirate it.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Suck it, Tony Sucker, Tommy Well. The fact that Serrie
is on camera whilest showing her vote. I was crying.
That is powerful. And I wasn't even well, I was
just watching. I just looked at the posts on on socials.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
I was like for Sirie to confer that title one
of the best reality game players ever, to confer that
title upon Parverty, that is true.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
That is true. Queen Queendom's story.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
It was Queen the First of all, I feel like
it's one of those sentences you hear and then you
remember if forever don't think I'm doing this because I
love you, it's because I truly believe you are the
best Survivor player in the world.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
I was so emotional.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
And also, guys, you just got to find a way
to watch Australia Versus the World because it was one
of the best seasons of Survivor I've ever watched, and
it would really, I think, help to watch. I believe
it's season five, it's Contenders, verst Challengers or something, champions

(50:45):
Verse Contenders or something. It's the scenes in that Luke
and Janine are on an Australian Survivor. It was one
of It was by far, at the time, one of
the best Survivor seasons I'd ever watched, maybe the.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Best until now.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Wow, And Parverty and Surree are just brilliant on this
and you can here's the thing, it's not even really
a spoiler because it's just such a coronation and cake
walk for Parverty the entire time, because she's just that good.
Two time winners Survivor Parverty shallow one time runner up
in a season she should have won. Sorry, Sandra, this

(51:23):
was in an era when there were bitter juries. Jerseys
did not vote for the best player. They took a
lot of personal bias into those things that was taken
much more personally.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
This was a well played game all around.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Everyone was good and it was brilliant and it would
be a really worthwhile watch. We Love Poverty. Parverty Is
family on Lost Coat.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Party, Samuel's Coachu, Absolutely, parverty Is family on thost Coach.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Well, and now speaking of family on Lost Coach, this
is your mother. Oh, this is Bowen Yang. Do you
are you struggling to find topic?

Speaker 1 (52:01):
No, you have one? Okay, this is Bowen Yang's I
don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't
think so, honey.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
There has not been enough celebration around the tenth anniversary
of one of the best pop albums of all time.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Do you know what I'm gonna say?

Speaker 2 (52:16):
E Mo Shun Period by Carle Ray Jepson. Where are
the parades? Where are the dinners?

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Where's the discourse at all? The celebratory look back the documentary?

Speaker 2 (52:32):
I mean, we're getting a deluxe album with like the
full Japanese and deluxe standing European editions, but we have more,
as in the song More is the only release that
we've gone so far. I think maybe this rollout has
not been like publicized in the way that it should have.
I'm not getting anyone in any notes over at the label,

(52:54):
but this is this is an album that gave us
such hits as were with Me Motion, like you give
you up all that boy problems your type When I
needed you, I didn't just come he to dance and
dare I leave out cut to the feeling and that's
one minute.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah, take me to Emotion.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
I really don't think that there's been many better pop
albums and that in like the last twenty five I'll say,
like and as people who listen to pretty much everyone
that comes out, that one does stand the test of time.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
It's this thing about Carly Ray where it's like, is
she always gonna be undersung? I'm sure there's an acceptance
on behalf of all parties, but especially in this and
the time when we should have a commemorative moment about this. Yeah,
I would love to throw the parties, throw throw the parades.

(53:48):
I'll throw a parade, do you.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Dann Niger was a producers this album. That album launch
brought up so much.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
So like shell Back obviously, but this was de behinds
like getting it, dipping his hand into it, like Rosstam.
Really we're starting to work with the girls, like this
album really launched so much. Greg Kirsten as.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Well, Oh wow, shell Back was on Runaway with Me
Dress I mean love Greg Kurston, by the way, always great.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Yeah. Yeah. Dan Nigro was a writer and producer on
When I Needed You so good?

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Love that song. Hey anyway, I just love that, Oh
my god? And yeah the hymes we're writers lyric writers
were making the most of the night too, so they
worked Oh love that so I just smaging the most
of the night.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Now makes sense. It does feel like that.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Get ahead, No, no, no, it's a little him impression. Yeah, no,
love Carli right. If you have a favorite track on Emotion.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
What is it right away with me? Yeah? Me too?
Period that feeling just like I.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Feel like that album was the beginning of what we
now call in deep pop. It was when like a
pop album of the highest caliber came out and yet
it felt like not everyone was talking about it.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
You might be finding dead. Uh, I'm gonna go ahead
and say, Robin Body talk. I think might have been
the start of that. But everyone but everyone knows dancing
on Everyone knew dancing on my own. Everyone knows dancing
on my own. But I think at the time the
way it was because dancing on my own was not
like giving radio I don't think it was. I think

(55:38):
it was more of like a song that got like
passed around. Let's go ahead and look at this sound.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
I'm saying, dancing on my own.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Let's see, okay, charts, Yeah, it was only bubbling under
hot one hundred.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Okay, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Like, that's the thing is it's like for dancing on
my own, at least domestically, because it looks like it
did a lot better internationally, which makes sense.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
But that's like I would say, the song of a generation.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
By the way, literally seeing Lena this this weekend and
now I was talking about dancing on my own is
so funny because that was the moment I believe it
to be solidified in pop culture.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
It was that song.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Season one, episode three, All Adventurous Girls Do It closes
the episode. Do you remember when we went to go
see her at Barclay's and the entire audience was just.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Screaming, screaming wa on my own. It was just very
clear that that was that, that was our song. I
felt like that with I Love It Too with Charlie
also featured in Girls, also featured in Girls and we
Shouldn't irate erase Iconopop. They were that was their song. Oh,
no one's erasing icona pop. No one's doing that. Well,

(56:43):
this was a nerve fabulous episode and we and every
episode with a song.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
I got this feeling on the summer day when you know,
not caring to a bridge.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
After I'm saying it to his days after my card
to bridge, I I just thought I threw my card
into the bridge. That's like, she's a mother who has endorphins.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
They always just that thing of like, well, you know
a mother if she's in her baby's and endorphins, adrenaline diaspora,
Oh bye. Last Culture Racist is the production by Will
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Speaker 1 (57:33):
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