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May 15, 2024 87 mins

The sisters are joined by the very special Taylor Tomlinson in this joyous episode! The discourse includes Hugh Jackman's sweaty glove, being a pro at reading a teleprompter, the culture of Romeo & Juliet, doing clean stand up on the church circuit, creating new stars, emails from Baz Luhrmann, co-opting the language of generation Z, and three IDTSH's you'll never forget! Get into it! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Look Marrier, Oh, I see you.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
My own look over there is that culture.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yes, lost culture ding d Lost culture is just calling.
So the vibes are very summer today as New York
has turned a corner and become hot. And I'm gonna
say it, I'm going to already complain a little uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
I think once the deal is broken, that is when
you really get it out of your system. And I
think you're gonna sort of like fold into it for
the rest of the seas.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, I know, I've just had my first summer sweat
and I'm like no, because it's like, you idealize New
York so much.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Because now I live in LA.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
As we all have heard me talk about this LA
New York conversation is ongoing culturally, especially Real Culture number
ninety two.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
This La New York conversations is ongoing culturally, And.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
You learned recently. What I've learned recently is that humidity
still exists. I mean, you know, it doesn't go away
just because you idealize New.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
York and that's New York and not LA. And that's
New York. There's no humidity in LA.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
They probably should go over there because the hurricanes have
come here, like a lot of culture happened hurricanes.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I feel like cypress trees. They got to be drinking
up a lot of water. Who and the palm is
good without but the cypress, which is my favorite thing
about La. I don't care too much about the terrain.
I agree with Chloe Sevani. The water is too hard.
Ye see it very hard. As soon as you're done
with the shower, you see it sort of like caking

(01:29):
at the corner. And I go, I don't like that mildew.
I don't like that calcium around me.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
When Chloe Sevanie dragged La, I was like, she's right, Yeah,
it sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I'm out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
And then I came here and I'm seconds into being
a New York again, and I'm like, it's yellmen, I'm
between two California legends.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
California legends. Indeed, so get this.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Our guest today hosts a late night program and it
films right next door to my house, which was convenient
for me when I got booked the show. What every
actor dreams on the Machine, especially really coaching number fifty,
What every actor dreams us to be booked on the show,
on the show and I went there and I was
just like, this is the life host your fun ass

(02:12):
late night show next to Matt Rogers's apartment, right next
to my apartment where the party is really smacks like
Seddy Davis when you go in. I was rude to everyone.
It was a total bitch coming in. Now I was
a sweetheart.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
New Fate Dunaway clip is kind of making the rounds
where she has to pick up a line. She goes,
I'll pick it up, yeah, okay, yeah, Fee, And then she
goes into the line again. You know the thing about
being an actress, can you actually move?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
You're in my eye line? She started to give.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
She started to give capital f fay, capital f fay. Honestly,
not since Fee have we seen a true legend, a
true Now Hollywood has sort of you know, I would
tell everyone to brace themselves because there's some all in
the paramount lot. Who's coming, Who's coming, She's here with us,
She's here, she's arrived, she's coming. Last night I watched

(02:58):
Have It All So Good? Netflix Stand up special? Have
you seen Looking for You?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yes? I saw that. Ojey.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
We call that when you see it Ojelee. It's mean
when you watch it when you see it, when you
watch it when it comes out. Now, I think our
guest has early Taylor Swift cadence of releases every two years,
you know, like, oh okay, it's time for the special.
So you think soon she's going to be like way
oversaturated World War eras Taylor Tomlinson, the Other Taylor the
Other working title of app. We'll definitely get better than that.

(03:29):
We'll definitely have one already is great. This person would
never tell anyone to get out of her island because
she's really good on prompter.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Really good on prompter.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
You've seen this person, I've seen it in action. And
when someone is good on prompter, your shoulders drop because
you think I'm safe. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's a skilled because guess who's not good on prompter?
That's a lie, you idiot. Good on cue cards?

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Excuse me?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
What is the goddamn difference?

Speaker 3 (03:54):
C cards harder no Q cards can be in any situation.
If you put a prompter, if you put a monitor
with words on it, spatially, the footprint is such that
it can't fit everywhere you want it to, on a set,
right on the stage. And so therefore also we have
monitors that are not wired that go out, that black

(04:16):
out at any given moment.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Technology can be a huge betrayer of a performer. It's
actually really coach are number forty. Technology can be a
huge betrayer.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Of a live performer.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
So cue cards and also they've been recently unionized, which
we celebrate.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Love that, and maybe we'll change the culture at after
midnight because maybe they'll bring Q cards in.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Well, I think I think our guests is very comfortable
on the prompter, So I don't want to like Perturban like, it's.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Not about comfort, It's about getting union men jobs. Okay, okay,
Aretty Strong, our guest is one of the greats, she say.
When I remember I told her this when I did
her show, Like when I saw her at JFL in
twenty nineteen, she was one of varieties new faces alongside
Joel Kim and Jabuki, a bunch of our friends. It
was a memorable night and Southern Mama, I was like,

(05:00):
my surprise that she has leveled up in such a
way and become this like comedians comedian. And I went
to my coffee shop today and told the girl that
worked there she was on the show, and she collapsed.
She watches her for your Standus specials like every night
before bed, like just one of the greats, like my
shock registers at zero that she's so successful and just
one of the best.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I'm so happy she's here, So happy she's here. Everyone welcome, talented.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Oh my god, I have so much to say that's
good on a podcast.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
First off, equally surprised you feel that way about que cards,
the fact that you can read handwriting better than.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
They put our guys through class.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Oh okay, where it's like you got to make sure
the A has a peek and you got to make
sure you know the Q looks doesn't look too funky,
like the letters have to be glyphic in.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
The yeah, and I hear you on the blacking out
with the prompter. But like if the person holding the
Q cards is going through something.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Like, there's the same there's the same room for air.
I think in a different way.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
I was so surprised everybody was so impressed I could
read tell a prompter, like to a point where I'm like,
is everybody making fun of me? What I was like,
when we can They told me for the screen test,
they were like, you need to practice. They were like,
we're rooting for you to get this job. Practice. So
I was on TikTok watching local news anchors do teleprompter

(06:17):
tests and and those are the real legends. And they
were so fast, and of course none of them are funny.
It's like five car pile up on the freeway today.
And I was practicing alone in my room like a
crazy person, and then I got in. I was like,
this is so much easier. They're going with my the
speed of my speaking. Yeah, And truly three months in,
people are still like you are so good on prompt

(06:37):
I'm like, you know, I do stand up for memory.
I'm gonna memorize my jokes everyone. Yes, but people are
just more impressed when you're on television than they are
by live performance.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
For some reason. That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
But don't you feel like it's the same lobe in
your brain that like is good at like filing away,
like what you're going to stay next on stage without
a prompter and what you say on that.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
I actually think No, I think they're different, which it
actually your show so perfect because you get the props
for both. You're like I'm reading and I'm doing something live.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Uh huh, sure, good for you coded it is.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
It's very this coded for visual medium. I'm patting my
head and rubbing my tummy, which you're doing so well.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
It's not bad.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
I'm telling you right now, I'm not doing it badly,
pretty good.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
I like, and I could bet I could do a
prompter while I do yeah, yeah, no hesitation.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I already fucked up.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Our first interaction in years Taylor, where we saw each
other in the lobby. I was like, it's so nice
to me. I've been a fan and I remember that
the JFL sat and you did it so classically. You
were like, we did meet that one time at JFL.
Joel Kan Booster introduced us.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
No, and I shouldn't have even said no. I should
have pretended because it.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Was so brief the way we met. We met on
the street.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Joel Can Booster and I said hi to each other
and like introduced us so quickly, and I shouldn't have
even said anything.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
I should have said nice to meet you too. I
wish there were cameras around for that moment, because we
need a reality travel.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
You need real everyone does.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
You and your siblings would make a great reality what's
your dad like? Just that would great?

Speaker 5 (08:00):
We don't speak to our dad, but yeah, it was.
But yes, the four of us are very funny and great.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Sure premise it conflict there, but your dad's such great
fodder for the show though, for your your stets, Yeah
about it.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
I think everybody's parents are great fodder for I mean
everybody doing stand up you talk about your family? Ye,
like yeah, total is it that Flannery O'Connor quote or
she said anyone with a childhood has enough material for
the rest of their life.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, sounds like flannering and then and then and then
it was and then it becomes a terrifying story about
you know a woman. I think Flannering O'Connor wrote Baby Reindeer. Wow,
Baby Reindeer is a very O'Connor. That's why that's what
it's catching on. So that's like there's a huge netflix
for him today. Wait a minute, I've you just like
lit up something in me. Flannering O'Connor really buffed me

(08:54):
up in college and I haven't gotten the chance to
talk about that woman. Okay, there's a ghost tour in
Savannah where you go, you go, you go to a
house and you'really.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Did hit the hip you did.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
You actually plowed as hippocat No.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
And this is great because Savannah. I'm going there on
tour in the fall. It's not announcedent, but we are
doing that. And it's the one city I haven't performed
in that I've always wanted to go to.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
It's such a great city. We performed there like years
ago with our skeedch group and it was like Charleston. Oh,
take back everything I've said. They are not the same,
a similar city.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Keep it in keep give me equally haunted, equally haunted
that say, in Augustine, Florida.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Ever been there? No, go there? Drink from the uh
what is it? The fountain of Youth? Oh, and that's
where it is. Go see a haunted house. Oh well,
be sorry. You'll feel a little sick from the water,
and you'll feel a little disturb from the ghost.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
The Mountain of Youth.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Now, was that like a conky stador in like the
thirteen hundreds? Being like, we found it and it's just
like a hot.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Spring very much.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
So yeah, okay, yeah, well it doesn't actually keep you young,
I've aged. I mean, you do look great, Thank you
so much. I absolutely lathered on moistries of here, because
the other thing about New is you.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Drink so much here.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, you drink so much. You drink alcohol all the
time because you're always like out and fun and doing
things in New York. And then you go to LA
and you're like, I'm putting on a face mask, I'm
getting a facial I'm drinking only water tonight. If I
have a diet coke, that's fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
If you need to treat I got drunk for the
first time last September in New York for the first time,
for the first time ever.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Was well, I sold out.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Radio City twice and my ex fiance came to a
show and I was like, I've earned this. Yeah, I
can get drunk now. And so we went to is
it Maurice's Crisis or Crises, which.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Is whatever whatever you want depending on whatever you say
right now forever. So that's where I got drunk and
it was perfect. Yeah, it was so nice.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
So there's just a video of me drunkenly singingly miss
oh perfect.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
So you did the whole thing at Maurice Crisis, Yes, you.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Did the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Yeah, where I just got drunk and was like venmoing
people and to find out.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
That that's who you are as a drunk person sun
ass and sings lames. It was really wrong.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
What's yours? That's what they were, that's what they were playing.
I didn't like request it, but they played it.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
So you sang every part basically, Yes, you were the
John you were?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Oh, speaking of lame is, do you still have the
Hugh jack and glove? I gave it to my that's
my manager.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's great.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
Yeah, so I like framed it and I also got
a Sutton Foster glove, so I framed both of them
and I gave it to her at the taping for
Have It All.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, oh that's amazing. That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
So you leave out the Sutton Foster part of the
story because it's not going to play.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
And let's say, yeah, exactly, it's not. She plays all
the time in New York.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
I was like, I'm going to take this show to Australia, London.
It'll work there.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, it may not be. I love Sutton Foster, We
love Sutton love Sutton Foster.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
I mean, does it all?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Does it all?

Speaker 1 (11:51):
And but does it all? I mean I don't think
there's a role on Broadway. She hasn't played. Oh I'm
not dragging her. Yeah, I'm saying she opens a lot
of shops. It's like her and like a few other
people that, like, you know, if they're in a show, like,
people are going to go see it. And that's why
I'm just like, let's get more of let's get that,
let's develop more stars, let's make that. And I'm so
happy now we got to talk about this because that's

(12:12):
what we're doing over at CBS.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
We that's what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
My god, we're creating new stars. I'm actually surprised to
hear that you screen tested for it. I would have
thought they developed this around you, right.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
No, no, no, oh no, I mean this show is
it's a reimagining of at Midnight, So like this is
not you know, it's it's different than at.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Midnight in Pitch at Midnight And they were like, you
know this is something hunt.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
No, no, no, absolutely no.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
I mean they hired Joe Firestone before they hired me, Like,
I think they screen tested a few people, and so
that was interesting to do all this press before the
show came out, before I was even hosting the show,
and they're asking me about it and they're like, so
your show and I'm like.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Not my show, like interesting in a good way. I
love that about it.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
I'm like I am an employee, like I'm part of
a team. And it's why I wanted to do it,
because stand up such a solo sport, you know, And
I was like, oh, I would love to come home
and work with a group of people that I really like,
which I do, and you know, it would take something
like that to get me off the road in a
significant way. But yeah, I really I was very uncomfortable
doing press because I was having a hard time going like, yep,

(13:17):
this is the Taylor Tomlinson hour.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
It's really not at all.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
I have a very specific job, which is like make
three other people look good every night.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Like if I'm funny, it's like a bonus.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well it usually happens.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
It feels really good when you got to go do
the show because like, it feels so great when you
get there because the writers are all great. I mean yes,
for people out there that don't know, Sam Tiger rights
for the show. Joe Bierstone is the head writer. This
is Michelle Davis. Yeah, she's amazing. We met because we
did Survivor. We did it Quarantine Survivor together. What we
were both in the same We didn't know each other.

(13:52):
I didn't even know she was a comedy writer. She's great,
but we were just both in the same online virtual Survivor,
which was all on Slack. And I remember they voted
her out too early because she was a personality threat.
Her personality was too good. I made I made it
a really long way because they were like winning, you

(14:13):
can keep her around. No one wants him to win.
But that's true, you're not threatening enough, no in the personality. Yeah,
do you wish she were sitting down on the show.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
Yes, Honestly, I'm surprised at how I have to wear
heels almost every episode, Like we've kind of I have
gotten my stylas Terror, who is amazing. She was putting
me in the highest platforms you'd ever seen, and you know,
everyone else in the show is like, you know, you
don't have to wear that. You're behind the podium for
most of it. I thought I'd be behind the podium
the whole show, but one of I think the network

(14:47):
notes was like we want one one act to be
out in front of the podiums.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, we want to see them shoes.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
We want to see the shoe. We we just changed it.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
Where I was starting the show standing out front, introducing everybody,
and we just changed it. Now I introduce people from
behind the podium and it's so safe back there. Yeah,
you can hold those things. Yeah, No, I've never I
don't think i've ever. I never thought I was going
to be sitting down. So it wasn't like I showed
up and was.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Like, what right, you know? But can I And I'm
sure You've been told this many times. What I love
about you is that you can.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Well, first of all, this is worth discussing because I
think you are one of our great pacers. You are
such a good paster on stage in your stand up
nice and the spotlight really you really give the person
behind the spotlight like you give them their paycheck because
they are just following you.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
You're moving and what I love it for a minute,
but it's all hitting. You can just tell you are out.
You perform a ton right Like Yeah, I was reading
that you you were one of the highest grossing comedians
and I guess it was like one hundred and thirty
shows in a year. That is wild. Yeah, it was
a lot.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
Yeah, it was a lot because we just kept adding,
which was you know, as.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
You love being out there or because you're just like,
are you someone that like likes your schedule to be full?
I think both.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
I think I like being out there. And there's like
once you start selling tickets, you just didn't sell tickets
for so long that everyone's kind of going like, you better,
what's the fra make hay while the sunshines.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
That I'll tuxt her, not knowing if she's said or alive,
fully dead, fully dead? I learned today I don't know
who that is. She rode great.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
I love her and great guys that put herself into
Actually yeah she was like Stevany Myren Twilight.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Cameo make kay, make Hay.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
You know you do feel like And also when during COVID,
I thought I was one of the people it's done.
I was like, it's over. There was a studio in
la that had built a stage that was a wall
of zoom screens, yes, like fifteen feet high, and it
felt old black mirror. It was crazy, but we did
it and we were like, I think this is the future.

(17:04):
I think this is no one's ever going to anything
live ever again. And then I think once everybody got vaccinated,
it was actually the total opposite where everybody wanted to
go and wanted to be seeing live events and experiencing life.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, And I bring up the pace thing because you
are stationary standing up in your heels behind a podium,
but you do you have a handhold with the podium, whereas.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
I'm leaning on it emotionally, and.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
That's what it's there for. It's literally what it's there for.
The podiums are there to be leaned on. It's actually
real coature number sixis are there to be leaned on?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
It just is you're doing the right thing.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Did you have fun on the show for real?

Speaker 1 (17:40):
And as I was leaving, it was that thing of
like everyone being like that was so fun. That was
so fun. I want to do it again because you
feel what you were saying is like I guess that
is like the consummate host thing to do. It's like, right,
you get there and your job is to have everyone
around you shine, and you get there and you immediately
feel like there are so many jokes that are like

(18:02):
like there for you, and they listen to you about
what you want to say too, and you get paired
with a writer and I had Sam and we know
each other. And there was also so much of him
in the humor too, which I loved and I was like,
I was just it was a really good vibehow and
you should be really proud of that.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Again, I have literally nothing to do with anything, Like
I can't take credit for anything about this show. Like
I did not hire anybody. I'm one of the people
they hired, and I'm so glad they did because everyone
they hired is fucking lovely. Like there's not one person
when I go into work and I'm like, I hope
I don't run into so and so, Like everybody's so great.

(18:38):
The writer's room is so talented, Like it is both
harder and easier than I thought the job was going
to be. But I mean, again, people being impressed I
can read. I'm like I usually have to write my
own shit, right, Like there's nine people writing me great
jokes every day, Like this is the dream, this is sugestic.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Are you like sort of reassured that, like you can
succeed in bow of those like parameters though, Like I
can nail my own stuff and I can beat the
delivery system for someone else's things.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
Right, Well, keep all the plate spinning right in case
this one shatters.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Right, there's a whole other.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Then you're like, well, I know you don't buy tickets
to see me do stand up anymore?

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Did you know I could read?

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah? I can actually read quite well. I do it
almost every night, cold cold.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Read every morning.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
And the hardest part of that job mispronouncing words in
the writer's room cold read first off.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Where I'm like, this is humiliating.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, yeah, And also I would imagine you're pretty like
literate with pop culture and stuff. But like when there's
a reference that you don't get, like such as Flannery O'Connor,
like people could just be talking about her right in
front of you and you don't even know who she is, right,
Like that could happen like often, pretty often, But I
feel like you are on your reference.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
There is I don't know, not always, there's sometimes I
pretend and then we get to rehearsal and I go, Jack,
can you explain.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
This joke to me?

Speaker 5 (19:56):
And then the whole control rooms like we don't really
know either then, or Joe has to explain it to us,
And like Joe Carson's like, I think it's just dumb,
and I'm like, okay, I just wanted to make.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Sure it was just dumb, just dumb, and I'm like, okay, good.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
I didn't.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
I was embarrassed to ask in front of thirty people
this morning, but.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
I'm glad we talked about it. That's great.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
And there's also times where they write a really funny
joke and I'm like, I just have never said that before,
Like I've never said, like read you to filth, like
I've never said that, you know where. I'm like, I
just I'm like, I just can't.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Sell this, you know. I mean there's a lot of
gay energy there because I remember like speaking of like
you wearing shoes and like looking amazing. I actually did
this gay thing to you.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Do you remember remembers you never did. I think about
it every night before I loved it.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I went.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
And you also did this. I was like you went
up and down, yes, because honestly you had earned it.
But right afterwards, I was just like, did I just
like be so gay at her? But I was that's
actually good because I actually am that gay and I
met this when I did it, Yeah, I meant it.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
It didn't feel empty.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
It was motivating and it was positive. You're not an
empty gesticulator.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
In fact, the girl today at the coffee shop who
collapsed when I said that you were coming on the
show literally goes, oh, I watch our show every night.
Her suit.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
She watches the show too.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
She watches the show and she watches your stand up.
She's a huge fan.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
So my favorite part of your episode is there is
one point where I think James Davis buzzed in before
you and you went.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
No, that's really my energy, though I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
I've done a lot of game shows, even though this
one's like fake and you know, like you're playing on
both sides of that game show I've done. I've done
a lot in that space, weirdly enough, not because I'm
like passionate about the form. It just I say yes
the shit.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
So there was a moment on we was on Celebrity
Jeopardy where I screamed no when someone else got a
thing because it was like, I think it was literally
like a gay question for me, and I was like,
I felt it was like a Beyonce question, and I
was like, I felt it was completely unfair that someone
else should be able to answer.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I was like, no, this is my category. It was
like it just didn't feel right, and so I made
it known audibly.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, and you're like, this is TV. Let's run it again.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Let's funny.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
We don't have to pretend this. We're really playing.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
I mean I got to be on the show with
Caroline Ray's yeah, come on, yeah, you guys are really connecting.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
I felt definitely connected.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
I mean, all three of you played really well together.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
James, that was like you'd ever met anybody, like nobody
had met each other. Caroline and I had had like
an online like fest because she is Henry Persky, my
ex and my musical director that's like his l a mom,
so I know her a little bit and she does
give that energy, but.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Also just like one of the comics too, which is fun.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
She was so good.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yea and Hilda, come were you a Sabrina fan?

Speaker 4 (22:50):
I couldn't religious Household, no Witch, no Witches, no cable.
I think we had cable, but it was like, I
don't think we can watch like anything on Nicola.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Okay, Like they were like Cat is too mean.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
To dog, Like it was like Angelica's too mean to
the babies, Like it was cat.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Is too mean to dog. Yeah, Angelica's behaviors were not
in God's light. But no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
But all so demonic in a way.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Oh yeah, no, it was unnatural.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
It was unnatural. It was clearly that I don't know,
was from Hell here to every child and like really
being in the nightmares of kids, right, yeah, totally.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, but see this is a curious not a phenomenon.
I just think there was a time when I felt
so like I was like, what the fuck, like not
a religious household, but no cable right, so I felt
like I was going to school like totally huge in
the dark, totally in the dark. But there were like
the very religious kids who still had access to it,

(23:51):
and it made me so jealous of like, see, like
this should be a thing that like is restricted to you,
and yet you have it, and yet you are being
a very like pious child by like not non accessing it.
Yeah you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
Yeah, No, being sheltered as a kid is not a
good situation. I think I watched Napoleon Dynamite through other kids,
uh huh, quoting it, Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
I think nap was actually kind of like youth group
friendly too. I can't remember in it was. I think
because of the way he dressed and the fact that
he was so sexually non threatening. I think parents were like,
this is fine, his t shirts tucked in. Yeah, he's
clearly wearing clothes too.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Warm for this heat. That we're okay.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
And I think there was the thing about John Hater
being Mormon, where I think there was a lot of
a lot of Christians at my school were like, oh no,
we love Napoleon, like it's the one thing that we
can watch.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
I was happy, happy for y'all.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
Okay, Yeah, but I mean sheltered goes. But it's not
just you can't watch this it's demonic. There's also just
what's out, what's popular? Yeah, we're too busy watching veggietails.
So did you details did.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
You go on like a spree at when you sort
of got some freedom from that, Like, did you go
on a pop culture spree?

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Did you say I'm reading every book about a witch?

Speaker 5 (25:09):
Well, I read Harry Potter for like two years, and
then my dad took us to see the third one
and was like, these dementors are the devil, these are demons,
and so took it away devastated, absolutely devastated. And then
like my senior year of high school, I think I
saw the last one in theaters with my friends, Like
it's like a senior activity.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
I don't even care.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
So when it was taken away from you, like what
were you barred from doing? Like the books and the movies,
all of it.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Yeah, And I was like obsessed, like obsessed for two years,
like got me through my mother's death, and it was
just gone one day and I was like, oh yeah,
So when people make fun of millennials for liking Harry Potter,
I'm like, that really got some of us through some shit.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, I'm very much.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Like one thousand.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah. I was just talking about this yesterday because we
were talking about JK and like what's gone down? Yeah yeah,
And it's just like it's so shocking that someone can
so understand the experience of being targeted for like being different,
et cetera, and she can be this way, but I
really do. I'm in the Daniel Radcliffe school of like
if it was important to you, like that's all, it
can stay important to you, like that are an impact

(26:15):
that it had on you isn't invalidated by this person
falling off the deep end whatever and for whatever she believes.
But I did notice those Harry Potter referencesn't the specialists? Yeah,
And I was like, this is formative, this is millennial formative,
very formative.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
Also, I listened to your Challengers episode this morning. You did, yes,
see it well after you did our show. I like
binge the podcast.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
I love this podcast, which I'm sure you're sick of
hearing because every guest is like, I love this. It's
so nice to be excited to come to a podcast.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
I'm not like dreading it.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Oh my god. I've been so excited.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
But I was so excited to talk to you both
about Challenging because I saw you posting about it on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Saw it Friday, and I had seen it the night prior.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, I saw.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
It Saturday afternoon. I can't wait to see it again.
And I listened to the whole thing because I was like,
I don't want to be repetitive. I know that already
covered it. Oh my god. The fucking truro scene start
to finish, starting from when he pulls the stool over
with his foot. That shot of the first shot of
the foot Oh my god, we were. I saw it

(27:25):
with my sibling and Zach. No Towers was opening for me,
and yeah, Zach's the best. But the three of us
saw it, and I was so jealous that you two.
Did you sit together the same.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
We saw together the second seen it. I saw it
Thursday because I just couldn't wait again.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
So I was like excited to go the next time too,
And I tried to keep a secret that I had
seen it, but I couldn't hold it in. I could not,
So did you.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Your theater was like excited. They were like cheering and
laughing and all that.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
God.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
See, I was so jealous when I heard that because
ours was quiet, but I actually think ours was just
as into.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
It was totally packed, but everybody was like nobody was talking.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
Huh a whole movie. I mean, barely breathing the whole movie.
Not to do spoilers, but just as vague as I
can be. The racket part, which we also when it happened,
because we were just sitting there like like, I don't
think Zach and I were breathing for like a minute.
It's in motion, and then it finally happened. I think
we both went, yeah, just thank you.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
And you know what you were pointing at. You were
pointing at incredible scripting, which is aspirational screenwriting. This is
is it justin Kurritzky's Yeah, this is like even though
you knew it was coming. And also credit to Luca
Guardnino because like you knew he was going to do
that to signal it. But what was great about that
scene was watching him decide whether yeah, and so even

(28:45):
if you saw it coming, the moral conundrum of is
he about to tell his secret right now? And that
if you felt like you were ahead of it, like
that part still it like kept that tension up. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Also, I don't think everyone did see it coming. For
the record, I'm not like, oh, that was so obviously.
We all work in entertainment. We saw it coming from
a mile away.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Well, you know, I would say, though, like you were saying,
you were saying on this episode that like it is
not so telegraphed. The way that that information is first
planted is not like so obvious.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
It's not like Chekhov's gun when you're like, that's coming back.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, It's like he does it, and it's this fun
moment in the movie. I don't know what it means,
and then in the moment at the end when you
realize it's coming, you're like, holy fuck, what is this
gonna push it to? Yeah? And then where it pushes
it to is I believe signature, iconic important.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
I love it well.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
You and Zach were doing there with the pointing it's
reminding me of this thing. Okay, So you were on
Stradio Lab Perfect Perfect episode. You were saying, how like,
if it's like a comedy bit that can work anywhere,
rather than like an alt thing where you're just performing
to the comedians in the audience, if it's a comedy
bit that can work anywhere, a comedian won't.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Laugh haha, but they'll go that's fucking great. Yes, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Like, that's your response to like seeing something that you
like just know is sublime. And rather than being like ah,
which we were in our theater, you and Zach were
like right there, that's good.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
Which is the hardest part about after midnight, maybe that
I have to make my face and voice do what
my heart is doing when people have a good joke.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Is I can't just go that's.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
Good, and you have to really make yourself audibly laugh yeah,
which has not come naturally.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
When do you think that's stopped? Were you ever a laugher?

Speaker 4 (30:27):
I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
I mean you're a great laugher though.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
That's so nice. I'm so glad and it feels real,
feel good. I mean it is really, the emotion is real.
It's just the physical act of It's like when you're
younger and they're like you have resting bitchface and you're like,
I guess I have to address that, you know.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
And I mean, I've been doing stand.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
Ups since I was sixteen, so it's hard to know
exactly when I became a dead eyed comedian because I
can't I'm like a laugher at fifteen, I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
So I don't really know, you know what's funny, Like
I was always a laugher, and then I was. We
were both laughers through college, Like I remember that was
a thing. Like we would go to each other's shows
and they'd be like, they laughed so loud Owen's laughing
at Matt stuff Matt's and they were like, it's not
as funny as they're laughing, But we were genuinely were
like we thought it was yeah, And then I don't
know what happened, but maybe in like twenties, late twenties,

(31:14):
like when comedy was the only thing I did feel
that stop and I don't know what that is. It's
come back, I think as I've stopped doing explicit comedy
as much and now do more acting, but like it's
been nice to feel like entertained again by stand up,
because that is something when you're around it so much
as it does start to feel like it's less about

(31:37):
acknowledging it, like in a visceral laughing way, and more
about like being like I'm giving them credit for that,
yes you know, yeah, yeah, and it's important to give
the credit. Yeah you know. It means something to comics.
Like That's why I like, I would imagine JFL like
where we first saw you was like a whole thing
because it's like there's audiences that are laughing, and also

(31:58):
the industry is such a thing there, but like there's
also the other comics there and like the sharing of
like everyone's comedy. I remember that was a really fun
night that night that you were performing just for laughs,
the variety, the variety.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
So I totally forgot we even performed for that. I
only remember doing the like panel we did, like a
panel for.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
It, uh huh, truly rip because I know, I know
there were some people in comedy who were kind of
like dang dong, the Witch is dead, which when JFL
kind of stopped growing up in Montreal, it was the
thing that like got me, you know, like it would
be a thing where you like go into town in
the summer and like there would just be like free
performances outside and like little kid me like sees a

(32:37):
min do a fucking quabei qua ass thing and I'm like,
I love this, Like what is this about? And it
is kind of sad that it's it is this institution
and like we warn it to an extent, but like
it is kind of like it's one less outlet for
like comedians coming up now, which is like kind of
a bummer.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah yeah, not to bring this down.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Well no, no no, And it is weird when things sort
of cycle out and something else becomes the thing. Like
I remember when I got the fifteen Minutes on Netflix.
I think that same year they offered me the half
hour on Comedy Central, which was all I ever wanted.
But then by that point it like wasn't the smartest
idea to do that because people couldn't find it or
watch it as they weren't putting it online. Right, So

(33:17):
like things shift and the thing that was your dream
as a kid goes away. Like I feel so bad
for people who wanted to be on Conan and like
just missed it, Like, oh my god, it sucks because
I thankfully got to do it a couple of times
and that was like the dream for years because that's
what I watched growing up.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Ah, you were ahead, like this is a thing.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Okay, So starting at sixteen, I think you and I
have hit the mark where it's the majority of our
lives now has been us trying to like aspire to comedy.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, yeah, have you.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Been doing this podcast for eight years?

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Eight?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (33:51):
That's crazy crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
It's just saying we're over four hundred episodes now and
it feels so weird. It's now been a part of
our life for while, and like that was like years
into us doing comedy too, So what you're saying is true.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
It's like half our life we've been trying to do this.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
So, like, do you anticipate any feeling about when you
hit the that mark? So I guess whatever not to
like do the math, but like, once you're at that point,
does it mean anything to you that you're like, I've
been doing this, this is occupied most of my life.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Oh yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
I don't remember.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
If I say it explicitly and have it all, I
think I might say like, I've been doing this for
half my life. Yeah, because I turned thirty right before
I filmed that, and yeah, that's almost.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Started at sixteen. Yeah, so what does that look like
like you go, because I would imagine, like you said,
you grew up with a sheltered upbringing, were in churches.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, started in churches. Okay, so it's like, what is
a church? Sts? What is it do?

Speaker 1 (34:45):
A set church? Is it about Leviticus? No?

Speaker 5 (34:51):
I mean some people did. People did a lot of
church jokes. I didn't have any church jokes.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, but I don't know.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
I think I had like abstinence, which not every church
would even let you do that.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, because I fell to which I.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
Was like, I'm pro absentence got like I was seventeen
and I'm like whatever, I'm never whatever. I'm so stupid now,
But at the time, I was like I'm saying the
right thing, and they're like don't even bring it up, like,
don't even talk about sex.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
So funny.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah, I had the thing where totally different from stand
up though, where it was like we were doing improv
in high school and we would go downtown on Mondays, Yeah,
to the Boobye Metropolis Theater in Denver, Colorado, and it
would be like fifteen year olds performing with like thirty
two year old like drunkards wild, but.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
There was totally normal to us.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, like this is what we want to do and
like yeah, but those shows we would say like it
was to get our suck out. It was ye was
thrust to bomb and bomb and bomb and bombing and bomb.
Wo'd be comfortable with bombing? Yeah, I'm sure it's not
the same with you, but like.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
No, it is really absolutely Yeah, No, you suck for
so long. Yeah, stand up you suck for and.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
That had to be terrible to suck in a church.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
Honestly, I think churches are a weirdly sorry took me
a minute. I hate it when you suck again, what
people are I actually think if you were clean, they
were actually too supportive. Where I'm performing for like hundreds,
if not thousands of people for fifteen minutes when I'd

(36:17):
been on stage less than thirty times, yeah, and making
a couple hundred dollars, Like that's insane. R talk about
a safe, supportive space. And then by the time I
was going up in clubs when I was eighteen in
San Diego, people were like, how'd you get so polished
on stage? And I'm like, I got too much stage
time too early, just because I was clean. And it's
such a small scene, if you could even call that circuit,

(36:41):
I would say.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
And so when you're that age, like and you're starting
to do stand up, like but you've had the upbringing
that you had, like who are the icons?

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Like who do you look up to?

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Like Brian Reagan?

Speaker 5 (36:50):
Okay, you can listen to there's a serious XM clean
comedy station.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
That was the one.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Was like Brian Reagan and Jim Gas again. And then
they're like, hey, Mitch Hedberg actually okay, Like Mitch was okay, yeah,
he was a lot. Yeah, I mean not every single one.
He did swear sometimes, you know, there were certain ones.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Were there not a lot of female stand ups. Then
at the time you Madigan at so good, you feel
like at that time, like a lot of female stand
ups were sort of like airing on the side of
like edgier because they felt like maybe they felt like
they had something to prove or literally did because they're
just they weren't giving them the time and the space,
so that probably made them something that was outside of

(37:32):
your viewing habits because they were not appropriate. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
No, it was like Kathleen and Ellen is like who
you could listen to comfortably with your parents in the car.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Sure, And I don't know.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
I get annoyed when people go like, isn't it just
such a boys club?

Speaker 4 (37:47):
And you're like shot up. No, like not anymore.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
The Internet.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
It hasn't been for years, but you know, fifteen years,
isn't that long ago that or even ten years ago that.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
That was such a thing.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
Like I remember Bride'smaids came out my senior year of
high school and it was like, hi about formative.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
Yeah, it was like insane. They were like so many
funny women in one.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
Movie and they let them make this and it's so wild,
And again that's not really that long ago. But now
we're like, oh, we have girls trip, we have joy, right,
like we have so many of those examples now, Yeah, yeah,
we're you know, it's easy to forget.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
That's totally.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
While we're in this zone, we should ask the central
question of the podcast.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Taylor Tomlinson, what is the culture that made you say
culture is for me?

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (38:25):
I thought about this a lot, A lot of things
I could say. I think the culture that made me
say culture was for me was Baz Luhrman's Romeo and
Juliet Oh in ninth grade, good for you, thank you
when we all good, when we all thank you so much,
when we were all like, do I understand Shakespeare? Like

(38:48):
you're fourteen, You're like, I get it. And then you
could watch Clueless and be like, this is also Shakespeare. Yeah,
it's Jane O's but like Shakespeare. Yeah, You're like I
totally get the You're like it's a book, and I
was like, oh okay, Like you just felt like you were.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
So in both.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, yes, it really.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
It just because my sibling and I actually we watched
some of it last night because I was like, I
gotta remember this movie, and I think it holds up.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
It's oh yeah, I think it's so good.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
It holds up at the very least as a shampoo commercial.
I mean, is giving you Guarnier fruit tees water went
down fish tank commercial honestly, Yeah, the fish tank culture thing.
Bring back the.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Fish tank such a seventies eighties thing that like really
died maybe with that movie.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Unfortunately I can't think of another one. I can't think
of another fish tank, you know what I mean? Well,
the one Monique Samuel's had in her house on Real
Housewives of Potomac. Oh, sure she's she's not in front
of it, but that's it.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I would say that that movie was not only a
Leo moment, but that was that was the Clardines moment. Yes,
that was after my.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
She's fresh off of my so called life and little Women.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
You have to imagine like she could have made like
Kate Win's lily Choices and choice Titanic. Yes, this is wild.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Now did you see this before or after Titanic? Oh?

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Because I think I saw Titanic first.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yes, Okay, So so we had the same order of
this Leo fever Leo fever and then you go back
and watch for Me and Juliet and it is just
God blessed Jack Dawson. But there's something about Leo playing
Romeo that is the actual awakening.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Well, he's wearing a suit, and he's.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Wearing a suit, he's wearing he's wearing armor, he's wearing
like yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Yes, he's the one outfit in Titanic, right, you know,
I mean he's And then he cleans.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Up and you're like, yeah he does, but again for
a second, and they slick his hair back and it
actually is not as.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
It doesn't work, you know what. I understand it for people,
it's not for me.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
I want to And he goes downstairs and he takes
off the jacket.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
One hundred percent. He had that insane side bang too
that everyone tried to do, like that that moment, this.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Swoop woop, the swoop. But that's really can I I'm
gonna be annoying. We did a sketch on us now,
so good, thank you loved it was great.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
It was so good.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I get an email and I have I've been too
scared to reply.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Can I should I just do it? What? I don't
know what reply?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
I get two calls from an from an unknown number.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
What is this? Then I get an email bazzler, shut up,
I'm gonna read it.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
And then I cut it out of it if it
feels too but email, you can't cut it out. This
is the thing. I have not replied to him, and
I'm reading. I think we're going to.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
See what the contents of the email are and then
we're gonna Okay, he's not mad, he's not mad. Okay.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
The subject line is I wish you'd been around when
I was casting. Don't tell you, and hey boen, this
is a note from a fellow Aussie. First, I wanted
to how well you Neil Mila reginas Now if only
he'd been around when I was casting? Jokes aside, I
love that you Okay, Yeah, anyway, this is all very
very sweet.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
How would you feel about a coffee you gotta get?

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (42:13):
That's all.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
It's not.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
It's not obnoxious, and it's good because now if he
had any feelings about like, oh, neering, didn't respond. Now
it's out there that you're like, I was too scared
you too much?

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, I was at the same house party as baz
Lerman in La and he hangs out. This guy hangs
out at me. I'm just saying it was after one am.
You were not getting coffee you were singingly miss I
was not. It was just so funny to see him
out in the world because he's one of those directors
that's like also a star. Yeah you know what I mean,

(42:48):
like and they're out there, but like he's a star
just being the director. He didn't start as like a personality.
You see that white silver head and you're like, you
are that girl? Yeah that's yeah, they are so Romeo
and Juliet does that. So you're a beast freak. Yeah
I liked I like, did you guys? Like?

Speaker 5 (43:09):
I mean, now you're getting coffee, beast, so now maybe
you can't speak, we can still talk about our Okay, okay,
great did you like Great Gatsby?

Speaker 1 (43:16):
I didn't see it.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
You didn't see it? Oh thank god?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
So you don't say I liked it.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
I liked it, but a lot of people, like you
should have seen it.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I thought he was great.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Harry. Harry was so good.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah, who's the time you canon in that It was
Toby Maguire. No, no, it was no, no, no, he was.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
He was no, no, he was sorry.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Sorry, sorry, I didn't see Okay, look it up, but
I didn't say.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Oh god, I want to say, I want to see.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
I was going to say yes.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
But I thought I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Oh my god, Elizabeth, Wow, yeah, Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Yes, it had a great cast.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yes, oh my god. Honestly, do you like Hanna?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I do. I recently got into Alanna and now it's
a large part of my personality.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
But you never were before.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Know what's funny is we were saying that we think
that the millennial generation either really fucking gets her or
really doesn't.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
And what I blame is the SNL performance. Oh yeah,
because remember when she came out you're talking about this, Yes, m.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Did that SNL performance, and it kind of was like
I was really following SNL at the time, like obsessed,
and I remember the narrative wasn't great about that, and
then christ and we came out and did that wag
end update character and like thatthrope to be like to
defend her.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Let's just like Nile, let's just cool down, Like this
is crazy. Everyone's losing their minds over this woman. Yeah,
in a weird way.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
But in that regard, like the conversation was so about
something else that wasn't her music. And I also don't
think my taste was like refined, not that it necessarily
is now, but I can listen to her music now
and like really appreciate how incredible the songwriting is, both
yeah and melodically, and also when you look at the
past ten fifteen years, like just how much she shaped

(45:06):
the sound of all these girls, because it's almost the
same impact that like the style of saying Mariah and
Whitney and Selene had on, like Christina Aguilera and like
Disciples in that regard, it's happening again now with like
Alna Delray into like Billie Eilish and Camila Cabello and
like you know you just Taylor Swift, like you just

(45:26):
and they're not shy either about saying she's mother.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
In my coffee shop in La, the girls the girls
love Lana, and I told them Taylor, and the one
girl goes, wait, I love Lana gen Z wait, I
love Lana, And then I go, you love her. She goes,
she's my mother. Wide I directly, she's my mother. It

(45:52):
was very good. That's so funny.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
It's so funny all the little isms from gen Z.
Because I have three younger Siblings's times I feel so
old because I'm like, that's so funny. How you do
that and they're like, oh, this is like a thing
we all do. Yeah that I thought they like made up.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
You have to start doing that.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
I have you have just show when you think something
is funny, just like, oh it's so cool. Old I can't.
I'm so old.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
Sometimes I do the hair behind the ear and I'm like,
shut up, you're thirty.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Well it's a little yeah. Oh I've been doing that
since a young age. And I have nothing here. We're
just gay.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
You are the youth. You are the youth.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
We're sitting you are the youth.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
We're too wizard gay men in their mid thirties and
we're telling you you are a young child.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
You turn thirty and I had a rush of jealousy.
Really no, not really. I actually thinks all the same
age once you hit thirty and like all the same
you were all the same age.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
And also it kind of gets better.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
You couldn't pay me to be in my twenties again,
you fuck no, no, fuck no, but you really I
think you really provoked thought within me when you talk
about turning thirty and have it all where it's like,
is the life not to get too existential, but like,
is this the life that like we envisioned for ourselves,
you know what I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
I love the metaphor of like being on a freeway
and like you're in one lane that's backed up, and
then you switch to the other and then you get
to switch back to the other.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Like that's what it feels like.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Yeah, And I feel like maybe I've been in the
same lane too long career wise, right where I'm like.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
You feel that way, Well, I'm like I don't have
breaking quit.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yeah, this is where this is where I now.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
Get to one email from basle and quit as.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
We can blame your special yes, exactly the stuff that
you said made him quit.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
Do you feel that way though? I've been in comedy
for too long.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
No, not comedy.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
I've just been like it's just been like and I'm
super I'm so lucky. This is constantly what the theme
is in therapy of like, yeah, like I don't know
how to like operate outside of this system.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
You know what I mean? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (47:49):
Do you feel like that?

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Matt? Honestly, I'm lucky in that I have a lot
of different aspects to like what make up.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
I'm really lucky that I just have so many.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
I can sing really well it's just there's a lot
that there's a lot of tools in my tool belt, whereas
you guys have like a wrench, and that's it.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
I was trying.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
I can't say it, but I should say say it
for you.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I don't ever get bored because I feel like I
don't have a steady job, like actually a majority of
things I've done have only gone one season. And I
try not to take anything personally because I'm such a
small part of everything. But in that regard, I always
feel like I'm always learning, you know what I mean like,
and I feel like I wouldn't have traded anything in
my career so far, even though there have been times

(48:37):
where I felt like when I compare myself to you,
which just happens when you're in like a very close
relationship with someone and you grow. At the same time,
I feel like, you know, what would it be like
to have a job all the time that that constantly
demanded so much of my energy? And I think it
will be twofold one. I think it makes you into

(48:58):
like a machine. I I think like I have seen
like you've always been sharp and great, but like just
the way that you prepare now, the way that you're
on top of things, you're confidence as a performer.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
I think that the listeners Matt's talking to Bohen yeah,
not me. I just can't say, Eyeline. I just want
to make sure they know.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
But it's the same with you too, though, because when
I one hundred and thirty shows in a year, yeah,
and go out and doing that, like you become like
a machine.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
And I feel like my.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Experience in the industry and with my art is different
because I have like a lot going on, and I
think it's just it's, honestly two experiences that I think
make us very uh compatible honestly as comedy partners because
we look at things really differently but have a really
similar sensibility. That's just thinking about us together. But as
an individual, like I never beat myself up about like

(49:47):
not getting this or not having booked that or whatever,
because again maybe that's thirties too. Yeah, you know what
I mean, it's like, what's the point.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
Yeah, I mean, I'll say I really relate to what
you were saying about feeling like you were in the
same lane for a long time too, because that's part
of why I took the job at after minute, it's
honestly One of the main reasons I took the job
is that I was doing my dream job, which was
touring theaters doing stand up and I was starting to
feel like, oh am I going to get stunted if

(50:14):
I'm just going out in front of audiences that paid
to see me, want to see me like me already,
and I'm touring with the same two people who are
like my tour manager and my one of my best friends. Like,
how am I going to keep growing as a person
if I'm just doing whatever I want all day and
then going out to applause at night and then I
come home and I recover for two days, and then

(50:35):
I go back out there. Like I loved being on
the road and I didn't like being home, and I'm like,
that's not healthy. So I took this job because I
thought I need to have a job. What you're saying
of going what would I be like with a job?
What would I be like with that structure? What would
I be like with somebody saying you have to go
do this, Like you have to go to this dinner,
you have to go to this luncheon. And it has

(50:57):
been very strained and at times annoying. Yeah, but every
time I get annoyed by those asks that aren't really
ask their demands from a network, I go, oh, but
this is exactly what I wanted. I wanted to be
a part of a team and a larger machine and
know what it feels like to have some things outside

(51:20):
of my control, because otherwise, how am I supposed to
keep developing and maturing as a human being without just
going on stage every year and still talking like I'm
twenty three, right?

Speaker 1 (51:31):
You know? I think that all that's important is that
you feel challenged and good about what you do, you
know what I mean, it's like, And the second it
starts to feel like that's not true anymore, I feel
like I would just get nervous because it would mean
that I was becoming less sharp and good at what
I was doing. So it's less like anyone could like
you could find something that you love doing and just

(51:52):
do it, do it, do it, do it, do it,
but like it will end, and then where will you be?
You know what I mean? Like, so it's like great
to participate in as many things as possible.

Speaker 6 (52:00):
I think totally, Yeah, would you act?

Speaker 1 (52:13):
You're a very good actor? That was where I thought
you were going when I first saw you, I'll be honest,
I was like, I can see her leading a sitcom.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
That's so nice. Well, I never wanted to do a sitcom.
I don't really like from what I hear from friends
of mine, I don't like a TV schedule, like it
just seems kind of like a nightmare. I like the
idea of a movie because it is there's a beginning
and end, you know, it's not just like year round
you're doing these crazy days. But again, i'd like stand
up so much, and I like doing this show so

(52:40):
much now that if I was going to act in something,
it would have to be something I was really excited
about or something I wrote, which is, as you know,
what we've been doing for years, like me and my
writing partner Taylor Tetro have like written scripts and sold
them and that's been so great because even if things
don't get made, which nothing ever does, right, but when
things at least get sold, you get the validation. And

(53:02):
working with her is so rewarding and I feel like
I learn a lot.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
So yeah, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Also a lot of times, like those things that percolate
from way back do come back when like you have
moments like this and like, now you've really hit astride.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
It's like you know, you never know.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
So that's yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
And look, when I was auditioning for JFL, I don't
know if you had this experience, but every time I
auditioned for it, whoever was hosting was somebody who had
already done it, and they were like, don't expect a deal,
Like it's not like that anymore.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
They're like, it's over.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
And when I got New Faces, I did get a
sitcom deal and like developed that and sold it and
it didn't get made obviously, which thank god it didn't
because it allowed me to go on the road and
then eventually do the special that was Quarterlife Crisis.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
So yeah, it's one of those things where I feel
honestly terrible for actors. I think it seems terrible. Audition
constantly just.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Acting would drive me.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Not if that was my only thing. I my hackes
off the people that put themselves out there again and
again and again, and then those are so frequent.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm like nerves of steel.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
To do totally totally.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
But I wondered, did they ask you to host the
Golden Globes?

Speaker 4 (54:13):
No, they didn't have no no, no, I'm not no.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
See I think they would you do it?

Speaker 4 (54:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
I think they made a huge mistake and not asking
Oh no.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
I'm not famous enough for that.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Yep, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
Well, you have to be well known. I mean Joe koy.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
Sells and you felt that room going like it's crazy
that this business does not respect stand up the way
it respects movies and TV. Of course, yeah, I felt
the shift getting this show, the sort of congrats and
attention I got, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Like, where was this When I was Yeah, I was like,
you know, we.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
Make more money on the road, right, do you guys
know that? Like it was so I don't know. I
don't think that I would be the right person to
do that with if nobody in that room knew who
I was, because they'd be like what.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Well, I feel like you just get around that though
by then introing up top and being like, hey, you
might not know who I am. I host a fucking
late night show on this network. But like when you
came out with Stephen and did a bit, I was
like the Emmys. For the Emmys, I was like, oh,
there's the host was because I just felt like because
daddy via com we you sort of speak the same language.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
That would have been an amazing way to launch this
show too.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
But also whatever I don't know, I feel like they're
bringing up on stage at late show. Was that that
was such a great I felt this like power, this energy, whatever,
but like it was so cool the times that he
would bring you on to like talk about the show,
it felt like a great torch pasting annointment.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
I hate this it is and he's amazing.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he was another reason I wanted
to do it, because everybody loves working with and for him. Yeah,
And I mean him and Conan have this in common
I've talked about before, is like they're just it just
seems as if they're always on, They're always hilarious, They're
always so warm and friendly in a way that just
does not come naturally to me. And I'm so impressed
by I mean, yeah, you like touch your heart like

(56:03):
that hit you.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
Do you feel that way?

Speaker 3 (56:04):
I feel that way, like, oh, I'm not I'm not
the version of myself that like any given person would
think I am. And I don't feel like you talk
about your social.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Anxiety a lot.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
I feel like you are just kind of like honestly
who you are, and it is just like a different
sort of like analog of like your stage persona and
which is not.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Good for show business.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
You should be better than what I am. Like, do
you feel like you're good at being famous?

Speaker 1 (56:29):
No, you don't.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
Yeah, Mats seems like Matt's.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Good at it. Matt's good at it.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
Yeah, you seem uncomfortable in a way that makes me
adore you so much, and I relate to more, Like
I respect that Matt's really good at it, and I
can't relate to it.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
I can't relate to it.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
I think I'm I think I'm just a true extrovert. Yeah,
I think I'm just a true extrovert. And I enjoy
the part which is like talking about the work, and
I like entertaining.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
In that way.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Yeah, but I've noticed that about myself too it And
sometimes I'm like, you're so annoying that because like we'll
get requests together and then we'll be like I'd like
to sit down that day, and I'm like, yeah, I
don't want to sit down run around in a circle.
I want to drink soda. I think it is like
it is like a thing that forms you as a
I don't know what where to trace it back from.

(57:18):
But I've always had a lot of fucking energy, and
sometimes I feel like I give too much of it
up and then later I'm really tired. Yeah, and I
don't notice I'm doing it until later. And I think
you don't have to be in the entertainment industry to
understand this. Like sometimes it's like you just give a
lot socially and professionally to the point where later you're like, wait.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Where am I right?

Speaker 1 (57:42):
And it gets a little confusing sometimes because like I'm
dating a lot more now, and sometimes it feels like
where does the performance of the me end? And where
am I actually dropping in and listening? Like I felt bad.
But a few weeks ago, I was out with some
buddy and I realized like I hadn't been listening to

(58:03):
what they were saying, because I think I was thinking
about what I had said and how it had gone over.
And I was.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
Like, yeah, because I I where's the lights coming from
the bar?

Speaker 1 (58:15):
You know, when you have to get good at knowing
that dating isn't like a competition or a game that
you can win. It's like, I feel like I learned
that and then I forgot it, and so I was
just like, let's reset, like let's let's talk to a person.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
You're not performing here today.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
But when you do it all the time, it can
get a little confusing and you bringing up your therapy.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
This is what my therapy is about.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
It is like actually just dropping in and taking a
breath and not having to be plugged in and excited
all the time. Like not everything has to be a
consumed thing or like a give thing. It's like you
can just sit, Like meditating is not something I understand,
but I do you do that?

Speaker 5 (58:55):
I can't because I'm anxious, right, not because I'm like
i want a soda, Like I'm just scared.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
So we got to hear you drown out the noise.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
But that's how my anxiety manifest that I do too much.
Totally different.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
Was it on SETH that you were talking about how
you got invited to Was it a party at Taylor
Swifts And You're like it was a Sunday and I
needed to sleep And I was like, that is my guy,
That's exactly how I feel like. Especially starting the show,
they were like, do you wanna present to the Grammys
And I was like, no, you have to, and then

(59:30):
I got stripped so I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
But I literally did get stressed.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
I truly did.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
But like there is so much anxiety and panic that
will happen for me in preparing for things like this,
no matter how big the opportunity, that it will ruin
the opportunity.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
And it's the preparation on for the specials, like the
road for you that that's.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
Easier that the road is prep specials. Yeah, so like
the process is but like these like big event I'm like,
I don't know how to exact, Like I don't know
how to do this, and I'm not comfortable, and it
also sort of like it's so disenchanting. I'm like, it'll
emmies for me if I have to stand in that
line and take a picture of that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I don't like the social part of it with other
people that are there really intimidates me. What I think
I like is the going and the doing of the thing.
Like I like going and like doing a bit, or
I like going and like when I'm on seth or
like any of these late night things like whatever. I
love going and doing the show. But sometimes it's like

(01:00:36):
I remember last time I was on Seth Myers. I
had to do like a social media bit with Jennifer
Hudson and I had to go into her dressing room
and be like, Hi, I'm Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
You mean a lot to me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
I've been a fan of yours for a long time
while her team sort of sat there and we're like oh,
and like she's so chill that I started to feel
myself going yeah, and I was like, relax, relax.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
That part drives me nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Yes, but the doing of the thing, yeah, it's fine.
But standing there and like when I found out that's
what a red carpet is a lot of standing and
yes to see if anyone wants to talk to you
on the line, and maybe they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yes, Like it's like oof, yeah, but then are we
saying it?

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Like Colbert and Conan are like this rare breed of
like comedian and performer that like that's just who they are.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
I think.

Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
So, I mean that's the impression I've gotten. They're the
two that I've spent the most time with. I mean,
I've done Seth and he came in and was so
lovely before it, like you seem so great, Like he
was so great on your show, so I think some
people are just like like you met, just wired for it,
and it's like hard to accept that you can get
good at it, but it's still not going to become

(01:01:42):
like I'm never going to have it in my DNA.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Like that, right, so the way you had like stand
up and yes, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
That's where I feel like myself on stage, even if
I'm nervous for a show or a taping or whatever,
like that's who I feel like I am inside, But
on carpets or whatever, all I'm like, who does anyone
need a drink?

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Like? Should I be working this event? Like I just can't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Did you ever think about doing an Alvira esque character
on the Red carpets? Sort of just going as a
another you mistress of the night? Maybe you could do that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
That would be such a hard turn for me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
I think you would.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Thank you so you think.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
This is an amazing compliment that I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Thank you so much. Not everyone has a face for wigs.
You do?

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
No, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
I don't you know you are? You know who has
a face for wiggs is Sarah Sherman. She transforms yeah
like you, She's on SNL. You all faces? We don't
you do? Oh no, no, no, no, no, we're not having
a discussion. I look the same, and I have so
many beautiful discussions with the departments there room, Like I

(01:02:51):
think this character should not have glasses because then it
looks too much like me. Like it's like it comes
that you became that Iceberg. I was like, you love
that he was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
You know what's very powerful going in a mustache, Going
in a thick.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Mustache is very powerful.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
And you see him begin to think about topping. Yeah,
you see the neurons that you see that my follicles
don't grow. I have a question about Sorry, such a
hard turn birth order. This new eldest daughter syndrome thing
is yeah, a lot of yes.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Yes, elderldest daughter, and it's all true.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
What's this?

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
So I think the Times did this whole piece about
eldest daughter syndrome.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Is it syndrome or is it I.

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
Think it's syndrome, yes, and the Times Yah, just me,
It's just me and my sister.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
I have eldest daughter energy work. Yes, So what is this?
What do they say about these girls?

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
You're absorbing a lot of this becase, I'm sure a
lot of being directed it you.

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
A lot of guilt, a lot of like taking on responsibility,
like a lot of feeling like you have to parent
your younger siblings and they're like fuck off, Like, which
is so fair? I saw I saw a TikTok of
a younger sister who was like something happened where when
I was a teenager, when I was younger, I really
like worshiped my older sister and now it like kind

(01:04:16):
of shifted where like she wants to be my friend
and I'm kind of like okay, which is what I
felt with my youngest sister. Soft the shift, Yeah, where
for a while I was like, why is she not
calling me back? And like she's always like yeah, when
I was a kid, I wanted to be and I'm
like where's that?

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
Like where did that go?

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
And then I think she got really smart and was like,
oh you're trying. What does she do? Yeah, she's in
grad school right now.

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
She's very smart. Yeah yeah, so I'm like, well, how
can I compete with that?

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
I'm a rat.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
Comedian applauded for reading. You read a great thing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
You're read that shift, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
I mean we would get pulled into things, remember like
seriously TV ri ip like I go in for seriously
TV stuff sometimes and it was a lot of it
was reading off like you would like set, you would
literally write your own thing and send it to them,
and your own words would be un prompt and I
would still fuck up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
It's so unfair that that is like something that you
kind of have to be good at to do that stuff,
because some people are the funniest people in the world
and they're just not quick readers, right, you know what
I mean, Or they're just not like people who can
like correct on the fly like that. Like, yeah, I
would imagine that. You see that all the time at
like Table Express and Noel, like certain actors coming in
and you it's not for everyone like to be able

(01:05:31):
to do that and like not only to do it correctly,
but also to do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
It in a compelling and funny way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
I mean again on becoming disenchanted with the whole entertainment
industry as you get older. I think at least this
was how it was when I was younger. You're kind
of like, I'm gonna be a legend, and I'm gonna
work really hard and I'm gonna sleep on the floor
on the airport at five am, and I'm gonna grind
and do it. And then as you get older, you're like,
there's so many talented people, right, and I can say,

(01:06:00):
go fifteen who deserve what I have more than I do.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
Or just as much.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
That feeling when you're younger, where you're like destined for more,
you feel special, it just like goes away, I think,
or it has for me where I'm just always like
which maybe good because it's replaced by gratitude, but I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Sure humility, gratitude, all those things that should be there.

Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
So many stars have to align for a person to
be successful in this very unfair business, Like you have
to be so many different things, like you have to
be funny and smart and warm to people. I mean
not always, but yeah, you have to have a bunch
of things going for you and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Luck, yeah, of course, and also the leadership quality which
comes when your name is on the title. I know
you're saying, like, oh, it has nothing to do with me,
it has nothing to do with you, but it does
because like you know, that is your name, and that
is your you are the engine of the show, and
so like it is really great. I'm super excited that
it's like doing as well as it is, Like I

(01:06:57):
was saying, like, not only is it doing, but also
like your fans are very engaged online, like you have
girls collapsing in coffee shops like the dream, I mean
the Dream, And so I don't know. I'm just like,
give yourself all the credit in the world and keep
shooting for the fucking star so much deserves it as
much as you.

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
You know, you're right, I single handedly, I am responsible
for any and all success on the show, and anything
wrong with it isn't my fault.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
You heard her first, but honestly, I do hope you
hold on to some like one inch tall version of
like that younger person in you that was like I'm
going to be a legend or I will be one.
Like what you've done is really remarkable, I think, and
I think like humility, gratitude great, but also like there's
something about that little guy that I think is helpful and.

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
You need to tap into it, you know, yeah, when
you're feeling like an impostor totally.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
I was watching the specials O Gelie, as Matt said,
but I also like rewatched them this weekend and I was.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Just like, God, she's really fucking good.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
She's so good, And like I think you are in
this space you are like a comedians comedian and then
you also play to like everybody, and that's like such
a unicorn in these days.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
I think that's really nice. I mean, you never really
know if you're a comedians comedian because you're like, doesn't
everyone hate everything?

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Uh huh.

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
You just kind of have to go like, I bet
everyone hates me, and it's fine, Like you don't really
ever know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
You never know, well, you know what's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Like I feel like I went from like like we
talk about the laughing and then the acknowledging and then
back to the laughing. I think that means I like
sort of tried to divest from like my peers opinion
of me because I know that if it were to
be negative, that would really hurt me. And I think
that that's something like maybe that's another element of like

(01:08:39):
growing up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Is it's just like I'm not gonna put.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Myself in a position to be hurt like that, and
if like someone like you guys like didn't think I
was worth myself, that would really hurt Meanwhile, like I
can go out there and like the audience might not
get something, and I'm like, I'm gonna roll with you now,
But if it were other comedians, I think that would
hurt Yeah, because we know we've been in those environments
where it's like we were all like fucking going for

(01:09:02):
something like JFL. We were all like pour together, we
were all getting paid in two drinks or two diet
cokes because you didn't drink till last week, I think.
But you know, it's just like so now, it's just
like I do what I do because it makes me
happy and it makes people happy, and it would drive
me fucking nuts if it didn't make people.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
I respect it, Yes, which about you have to pick
like three people you respect and talk to it all
and talk to it all, and those are the people
you care about and everyone else you're like, yeah, but
I also like when people don't like me, I'm like,
I get it, Like I could argue.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
That side totally.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
All their complaints are actually my complaints to annoying talk
too much, not that smart. Yeah has an underbyte, right,
I was gonna say.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
That's me I'm putting there, it's I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Yes, this is really this segment where we hang our
hat here at the podcasting. This is it. I mean,
this is what's made us really timeless, like Shakespeare and
h B and Besz. This is one minute to rants
against something in culture that's getting to us. And I
have something as of last night. Matt Rogers is here.
I don't think any times starts down. I don't think
so honey the olive garden.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
There is such a thing as being too good to
be true. And there are three things soup, salad, and
bread sticks. Okay, let me disclaimer this. This is not
an I don't think so honey to you as an institution.
It's an I don't think money really to me and
my self control unlimited truly does mean unlimited. And when
you have one bite of that bread, that salty fucking bread,
and you dip it in that Zoopa tuscano, which is
my soup of choice, not to disrespect any of the

(01:10:43):
other soups, I would definitely try it in some minute drunk,
but I cannot stop myself. This salad one of the
world's greatest salad. And then I have to say something.
You're already jacked up full of soup ss B. And
then you got your tour of Italy. Okay, because you're like,
why not, I'm not gonna be full seconds into the meal.

(01:11:04):
I don't feel good to date, and it's because not
because of Olive Garden, because of me, because of my choices.
It does it feel like a little bit of a
betrayal that they would do this to me after I
had my nineteenth and twentieth birthdays, both two years in
a row, at the Time Square Olive Garden where I
went last night. Yes, it does well. I keep coming back. Yes,
I do think so hard. And that's one minute. I'm

(01:11:27):
so chalk full of food right now at this moment,
like I'm bursting. I'm gonna start sweating the bread that
moved you to go. I was on a date last
night and you won't go went to a time So
we had done this fun, stupid thing where we're like,
we're gonna go to Dave and Busters and then go
to the Times Square Garden. Like I said, I'm out
there dating, We're having fun, and I felt like this

(01:11:48):
would be a way to not have it center around
like alcohol.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Yeah, which is I think it around bread? Something else
that's slowing me down today, carbs.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Yeah, So I hangover.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Sorry, they don't tell you about that. No, I don't
look up to and I was like, whoa, I guess I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Drank too much.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
I had one beer and five thousand bread stick. Yeah,
they should cut That's what happened. There should be there
should be a breadstick bartender there. Really, there should be
someone be like, hey, man, are you okay? Because you
do get kind of drunk. I mean like you're like
on that bread. Yeah, bread, let's get it. I don't
you know what's funny? Like I had so much bread

(01:12:27):
and like a whole bulls a whole bull of hellad.
And usually it's like, what's so great about soup salad? Breadsticks?

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Un limited?

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Is the soup? Because I'm a souper queen, Like I
love soup, but it gets so amazing. I think it's
one of the great inventions. Well, Bowen likes more stew
I I love.

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
He can tell you about it, Okay, he loves STUWT. Yeah,
stu is just soup with something to say.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
You know, that's real culture. Woman numbers are again twenty
five something to say amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
Wow. Yeah, so your merch should say soup queen on it.
I mean and it already and it already changes. I'm
changing it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
We had what was it? We've came up with a
good merch that they don't talk to me on vulnerable
or something. Oh, I remember that. That's great. We're coming
up with good merch all the time. And we never
heard I.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
Would wear don't talk to me vulnerable?

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
So fast? You fast?

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
You'd wear it? Well.

Speaker 5 (01:13:22):
My younger sibling made me a sweatshirt once that maybe
it was something they said, maybe something I said that
said like I'm great but unavailable. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Yeah, but yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
It text for later but also says what's yes, stay away? Yes,
Oh I love it? Bonyang, you're ready for I don't
think honey ready? Okay, this is bowen yang and he
is going to do I don't think so honey, starting.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Now, I don't think so honey. In New York Times
is thirty six questions to fall in love. Guess what
they don't work? Okay, I've fallen out of love with
individuals because they went through the whole fucking charae of
like looking into my eyes reading off these questions. One
of them is if you had the choice to be
ninety years old and have either the mind or body
of a thirty year old? Which one would it be?

(01:14:11):
I don't care how you answer that. I'm not gonna
like the answer. No, that's a weird fucking question.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
New York Times.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Hey, how about ray lady, how about you try to
put strands on the games app? How about you get
the editor of Connections to make some fucking sense for once?
How about you make spelling me not have a Q
in it on a Monday. It's really up, New York Times.
I could begin to list off the gripes I have,

(01:14:38):
but let's start with the thirty six questions to fall
in love, because you are ruining a lot of potentially
mid dates and making them intolerable.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
And that is one minute you get.

Speaker 5 (01:14:52):
I will say that question that you talked about, that's
the easiest question to answer.

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
Body body, Yeah, who.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
He doesn't I get that you said that. No, No,
it's not that I don't know. It's not either way.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
You hate that I bought into it at all.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
I've fallen out of love with your tail.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Yeah, but can I tell you something. It's about starting conversations.
It's not about being definitive. It's about starting conversations. Like
you ever played this or that. Yeah, it's a conversation starter. Yeah,
I'm really that's just this or that. It's just in
the paper of note right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
Well, one of them is like sum up your whole
life story in four minutes. You're like, this is so
sweaty h so like okay, Like it is someone being like,
let me be fucking charming towards you, and you're like stop, okay, but.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
Can I just say those questions are not for people
with podcasts, you know what I mean? Like, those are
for regular people, and the fact that you're even trying
to pass judgment on it is not okay. Those questions
are for people who are not interesting on their own
and they need a template date God right, I'm just look,

(01:16:03):
you probably have questions that you want to ask everybody
because you're an interesting, talented person, eldest daughter.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
You're made of this stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:16:13):
Yeah, but people have you like That's why I can't
watch dating reality shows. I'm like, I don't want to
watch regular people struggle to know each other with another.
The barrier like a literal barrier. I watch Love is
Blind a literal barrier, making it even harder for you
to connect.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
It is painful to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
The Bachelor is the toughest for me because it's like
people who socialize at a certain level, Like it's just
kind of like and I want to think it's funny,
but I really ultimately just think it's boring.

Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
Yeah, yeah, I just I can't pretend to be Like
when two people are like you want kids, I want
kideah exactly, both want to that's crazy, yeah, and then
everyone's fighting over the same guy because they want to kids.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Like it just well, it all boils down to I
saw this person and was the horniest for them. Yeah,
they are the one who wins, because guess what, nothing
really changes in two months. You're still in a manic period, right.
It really is just like many of the show. It's
like we're gonna put people in an insane situation with
a camera in their face and ask them to perform constantly,

(01:17:29):
and it's just like, of course nothing works, get.

Speaker 4 (01:17:32):
Them drunk, take their phone. It's it's literally a it's
literally a manic episode, and no one knows that because
we're watching it like weeks apart.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
But like these people are cooped up for like two
and a half months, only talking to each other and
then guess what. The friends they make one day are
just gone. Yes, Like Eric goes to talk to Rachel,
he doesn't come back and we've been hanging out for
two and a half months.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
Oh, you're lying to your family? Where are you? Like?

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
When they come out and they're.

Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
Like, I'm engaged and they're like you said you were
doing like a sleep study.

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
What do they tell their loved one?

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
What if something happens, like, hey, hey is this missus Eric?

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Eric fell off a boat in Copenhagen.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Can you come?

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
I d the body? Oh dead by the way, Yeah,
you don't really survive that kind of thing, no matter
where it is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
We does ted know about this that you're not a
love is blind man?

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
We're no, no, no, I am.

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
I am the only one I've watched. That's the only
one I've watched. That is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Yeah, I don't, don't.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
I had I had a lot with his mind. As
I've talked about it in this podcast. I'm like, I can't,
I can't stick with it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
I can't watch any dating show. I cannot watch. That's
the Yeah, I did.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Watch like the Social Dilemma. Reality shows like the Circle
and stuff, or.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
No, I don't watch this.

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
I did watch the Ultimatum, which was insane.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
The Ultimatum was crazy all the way through. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:18:50):
So I've seen the one season of the Ultimatum, and
I've seen I think two seasons of Love.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Gave it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
I gave it a fair shot.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Yeah, yeah, he did it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
I did it. I mean seeing two seasons of anything,
I can say I watched something.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
If I watch four episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Of it, Oh yeah, then I then I consider myself
a fan and an authority. Yeah, and I come on
here and I say, here's the definitive word on this thing.
I've seen an eighth of people, and people listen.

Speaker 5 (01:19:14):
And then if something is popular enough, do you watch
four episodes of it just to be a part of
the conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Yeah, four seems reasonable unless watching it's gonna be a
miserable experience for me. Unless the genre I don't do
scary and I don't do like graphic. Right, Okay, I'm
good with anything.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
When people come on SNL and HOST, I feel like
you have to watch their.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Stuff, not as much anymore, because now I'm gonna peel
back the curtain. Lauren doesn't like when they promote the
thing too much. Oh interesting, So it's like, oh, there's
there might not be a sketch about their project, right,
which unless it's cultural, unless it's like Eyston, like I'm
sure Gosling can do it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
I'm just kind of You think you're gonna shoot your
shot on a Challenger sketch this week?

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
Oh? Sure, something with the score, something with the score that, sir.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
I don't know how you're gonna make that funny, because
the score was perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
It's perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I am I thinking I'm
thinking of a sketch.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Okay, I can't say what it is because Bowen says
if I ever picture my sketch, they can't use it,
and I actually will likely I could sue. I could sue.
I'm veryious. Speaking of being on the edge, it's your
turn to do. I'm so scared. Okay, don't don't be
all right, this is Taylor Tomlinson' I don't think so, honey.

(01:20:23):
Her time starts now.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
People who skip the museum gift shop, Oh I'm sorry.
You go to one one museum and on the way
out you're like, oh what I forgot?

Speaker 4 (01:20:34):
That was here, I start with the museum.

Speaker 5 (01:20:37):
How else are you supposed to know what to pay
attention to once you're in the museum. Okay, I don't
want to look like a fucking idiot standing in front
of an unimportant piece of art too long. I'm getting
teary eyed in front of a painting of a field going,
oh my god, what's this one called landscape?

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
By?

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
Who the fuck know? What made the magnets? What made
the postcards? What can I take home with me? You
think it's in you to buy something from a museum
gift shop. You think you're better than a starry Night umbrella?

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
You're fucking not.

Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
I want to remember the time I saw the Scream
in person and was like, Wow, I'm doing something.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
Yeh, fucking culture. Yes, I want to bring it home
with me.

Speaker 5 (01:21:16):
I want to put it on my refrigerator, bare minimum,
use it as a bookmark in a book I started
and didn't finish. I don't think so, honey, you were
not better than the museum gift shop.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
And that is one minute. Also, if you don't go
to the museum gift shop and get something, how are
you gonna have too many shirts? Yes? How are you
gonna have too many shirts if you didn't buy one
at the museum. And it's important to have too many. Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:21:37):
The only other way you could have too many shirts
is if you start doing stand up and you get
one from.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
Every club you've ever performed.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
And that's the only other way, and that takes years.
But if you're not a stand up and then what
are you gonna put on your coffee tables?

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Go to the museum gift shop to buy the book?

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
Grow the fuck up?

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Where was it that we went in Berlin? We we
went to that museum in Berlin. Remember we didn't go
to a museum. Oh, we went to a Berlin museum.
I forgot what it's called. But and answer them. We
went to the rex mus which, oh yeah, I love,
and there is that I bought my yellow shirt that
I've never worn, you've ever worn. I wouldn't have it
taking up.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
Space if I hadn't gone to the gift shop. And
that's important. Yes, I need to see what is the
jigsaw huzzle? Yeah, and then I'm gonna be like I
know to go to that. Yes, stairs, you'll miss the
room if it's too big.

Speaker 5 (01:22:20):
The best museum I've ever been to is an Oslo
in Norway and it's I can't pronounce it, but it's
so good and there's so many different types of things
in there, and you could absolutely miss something if you're
not careful. I went two days in a row because
I miss stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
It's so smart to start with the shop because then
you've kind of outsmarted the layout in the floor plant,
you know what I mean, like the traffic pattern. You're like,
let me start where they don't want me to go first.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:22:43):
I was talking to my sibling about this last night
and they go, it's like reading the study questions before
you read the chapter.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Yes, so you know what it is. You know what
always gets me? This is sort of my museum is
a theme park. Yes, I get a mug, a coffee
mug from every riode.

Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
I like, yeah, if I had a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
If I had an amazing time, which I often do,
especially with so we went. We do it on the
Jurassic Park right a long time ago. So one of
my favorite mugs I have and I wouldn't have it
if I had it bought it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
Yes, that's exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
It's actually a really coaching number eight. I wouldn't have
it if I hadn't bought it. This is an important
part culture. It's a capitalism consumer you know, like, this
is what this is all about.

Speaker 5 (01:23:25):
I love that you two love theme parks because that's
another thing that people act like they're too good for.

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
No, give me a theme parks are so fun. They
were built for your imagination, dear steps.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
In every day I watch YouTube videos about the construction
of Epic Universe, which is the new theme park that
is going to double the size of the Universal Orlando
Resort and truly start the theme park war in Orlando
or will it finish it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
It's a totally separate theme park.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
It is a totally separate theme park. I'm going to
send you some links. Please do it too, because let
me something They are not playing not playing?

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Do you like the movie had Finger Dragon.

Speaker 4 (01:24:06):
Stop talk about a score?

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Yes, you spoke of Harry Potter earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
You're in luck.

Speaker 4 (01:24:12):
They're they're doing a Harry Potter.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Yes they are, and it might be called Battle at
the Ministry of Magic, and the villain might be Dolores
Umbradge herself reprised by Emelda Staunton. Okay, there is new
technology they have not yet revealed that will make the
attraction unforgettable. Then there's a dark universe which is gonna
have all the universal classic monsters, Oh my god. And

(01:24:35):
finally Super Nintendo World. We're gonna ride Mario Kart.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
You're end World at Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Have you been yet?

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
I'm not a Nintendo World.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
You gotta take the whole team, take the do it.
You gotta take the whole team.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
I would love to see Joe. Joe has been.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
Joe has taken her niece, nephew, one of her relatives
to that park and has a lot of things. Does
Joe like the part re roller coaster?

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
This is a metaphor for friendship, so it doesn't it's healing.
But that's two people on the ride together and they're
going over the till and zero gravity.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
That makes me happy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
It's got the circle. You can tell that's fresh. It's
fresh fresh. Yeah, she's got her second skin on. But
what's this joke that you have. It's like recycling a
theme park. You're part of the problem. You're part of
the problem. Throw your hands up, three hands up, being.

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
Like offended at a comedy show.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Trying to recycle.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Yeah, you're you're here, You're you're part of the problem. Yeah,
just throw your hands up, so.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Good, throw your hands up.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Title of app.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Title of app.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
Three hands up and we throw our hands up for
Taylor Tom we throw our hands up and clap them
in the air. Wow, this was so fun. Thank you
so much for having you. Came honored so much. Like
I said, one of the first things I saw you
when we met for the show was like, it's not
a surprise to me at all to see you continue
to be so great and do so well. So star
Star Star watch after Midnight and we end every episode

(01:25:59):
with the song to Midnight.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Sorry do you know has a song?

Speaker 5 (01:26:09):
I think we used her song and our trailers for
the show. I think it was just so perfect, Yeah,
so good, so amazed.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
You should play it right before the show. But I
know you.

Speaker 5 (01:26:18):
I asked our amazing Percy incredible on. I was gonna say,
he's PERSI amazing great come to the show for Percy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
He doesn't me, doesn't he dances?

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
He did like knows the Beyonce single Ladies Dance.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Like he does it all and then he's like, Matt,
come on and do it. And I would never do that.
He did got me to do it and I didn't.
I didn't know it, but he got me to commit,
which is the power of person, which is the.

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
Power of Percy.

Speaker 5 (01:26:45):
I asked him to put hot to go on the list.
Happy and when people know the.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
Dance, it's really fun. But you do have to wait
a while for the dance to kick it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:53):
So I think I need to tell him the time
stamp on it because sometimes people get because he has
audience members come up and dance on commercial.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
Brands, and some of them know how to go the dance. Yes,
Chapel is taking off. Man, Oh my god, she's so
good travel Come on the show girl, She'd love the show.
I feel I feel like she well, she knows of
the show because she won Album of the Year last
year before her album even came out, and at the
Cultural Awards. Amazing, she said in a video, thanking us
and watch the Space Chapel. You maybe racking up some

(01:27:19):
numbs of this year's Cultural Awards.

Speaker 5 (01:27:22):
Bye bye,
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