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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Look Mayer. Oh, I see you and look over there.
How is that culture? Yes? Wow, lost culture? Lost CULTURESA
is calling.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You were singing the amazing song Dreaming by Blondie before
we got into the mic.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I was gonna say, this episode is going to be
a lot more singing and giggling in way less tears. Promise, Promise, promise.
Oh stop, I'm singing Dreaming by Blondie and I'm in
a really good mood.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
When I met you in a restaurant.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Can we first say one thing and let's relitigate this
because it's really important culture. I wouldn't go back in time,
and I wouldn't, like, you know, back to the future
this because I think everything worked out. I'm about to
talk about Trix Mittel. Wow, Tricky Mittel won that she
won that lip sync to Dreaming by Blondie in season
seven of Rupaul' Drag Race and Pearl lost.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh, because I was about to ask who did she
even go up against? But that was Yes, that was
her and Pearl and Pearl was in that snake that
cobra outfit was in that like beautiful silk cheap how situation.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I will never forget, like I don't think they do
What's the Tea podcast anymore? But Ruin Michelle had on
Debbie Harry and Blondie, who were the guest judges literally
for that episode. Yeah, and they were talking about that
elimination and Rue was like, but don't you think that
gurl was really giving Blondie, you know, And Debbie Harry
just goes, no, we like Tricksy. Wow. Now was this
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like after Tricksy had become Tricksy? No, this was well
before this was I mean, the only thing we knew about.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Trixy at the time was Wisconsin Girl eliminated that episode.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know the first time I ever
heard that Trixie Mattel was like popping off in like
a way that felt like good and individual to her
was Dave went to go see her show in Pete Town,
like years and years ago, a fixture, and he was like,
no one gets it, but Trixie Mattel is fucking incredible.
And then obviously very quickly after that, everyone got it,
and now Tricksy is the legend.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
The think about Tricksy is like, she will never abandon
her roots and she will continue to be a Peetown girl.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
M she was back, but I think she's on her
sabbatical right now. She was just hanging out and she
just fucking deserves that. No one in entertainment deserves a
break more than fucking tricksy man tell and I'm my.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
God, she is one of those people. I have not
moved to do this too much. But when she put
out that video being like I'm gonna go on a break,
I was like, I'm.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Gonna text the girl. I texted her too.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I was like, take as much as you need, Like
we all have been there. We've all like fucking fizzled
and sizzled, and you gotta sizzle.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
You know, she's a sizzler. When you're such a sizzler,
you need to take a break. When you're a hot Fahida,
you gotta sizzle. I think we are. Are we both Fahidas?
Are we in our Fahida moment?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I found out there's some like YouTuber who for somebody
sent I stumbled on this video where he like teaches
you how to like pose for photos, and I was like, sure,
I'll watch this. I forget what his name is, but
he I don't know if you mentioned the term sizzling,
but you got to sizzle into a pose. You can't
just like you can't, like you gotta like kind of
shake it up, but kind of sizzle it off.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Like don't just like hold the pose. You gotta like
relax into it and sizzle. You know. Yes, I'm at
Fijida for sure. When I'm in front of the camera,
I want to sizzle it. I want to scintillate. I
want to be a Fahida.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Wow, cut to me naming my daughter Fahida. Oh my god,
that's my god gorgeous name? Is that a nominee? I
think I think the most gorgeous name.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
What was the category name? Best name for a girl
that you haven't even thought of yet?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I think that's gonna be a category next year for
cultural words.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh I love Fahida. Fahida, Fahida. Stop it now? Oh
that's good? See what I mean? Like already this is
off to a different foot. And can I just say,
can I just say something to your podcast to all
the readers Katie's publicist finalists who reached out to me
after last week, I just want to say that I
(04:00):
realize how lucky I am to have you guys. You
all checked on me, and I want you to know.
I am fine. I had a really hard week and
I went to therapy and I worked some shit out
and I've taken some new steps and it's fine, and
I definitely feel all those things and they're all true.
But I don't No one needs to worry about me.
(04:20):
They made me a fucking playlist they like collaborate on
all playlist for me altogether, and they sent it to
me for Happy Music to get me out of my
little Spotify ret that I'm in. I just want to
acknowledge and say that we are the luckiest. We're so
lucky idiots to have you guys, and just love you
guys so much. And you because I want to tell
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you something. I had to self immolate and listened to
that episode for Edits and went through it again, and
you were just such a good friend to me. You
are so that girl. I can't no, you really are
that girl. I knew you were.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I knew you were that girl. I went to bed
the other night. My final thoughts before I drifted off
into sleep was my girl, Matt Rogers, what an angel
on this earth? I'm so lucky?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
What made you think of that? When you were laying
I just had fun. Oh shut up, you fool. Don't
give yourself credit. Never give myself credit. Promise you girl.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Well, you know, I think this is a perfect I
mean that is a perfect distillation of the pure love
like I feel especially now fandom, even though I don't
really love that word, but like a fandom is a
reflection of the person and the reason why we have,
why you have these really caring people who made that
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playlist for you is because you give that out. It
is what goes out goes in and vice versa. So
doesn't surprise me at all, but I'm delighted.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
To hear that. Well, I am in love with all
of you and I always will be. What else? So
should we get into the fucking colture? Because there has
been culture? Can I tell you who whose concert I
saw the other night? You went to Jone Jet and
Elanis Morrissett. I went to Okay. So this was the
this phenomenon that has been happening lately of I'll just
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be like buying something from a store and the cashier
will just tell me about an event and I'll just
go Cashier's No, I told you a few weeks ago,
I was at the Beachwood Cafe and I think I
was getting like a green juice or something, and the
girl was like, I saw the best concert last night.
I'm the biggest fan of Jesse j and I went
to go see it and it was amazing, and it
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was like at the Terragram Ballroom. It was like a
couple hundred people and she was shredding, and like, I
was like, does she perform again tonight? Turns out she was.
I went incredible. It happened again. Jared and I were
in Studio City, like at a weed dispensary and the
guy was like, I'm going to see Alanis morris set
tonight and I was like, what the fuck? That is
a show that I would one hundred percent go to.
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So then the next night it was Morgan Wade, who
we missed. Oh my god, Jon Jat we came in
halfway through incredible, and then Alanis Morrissett bitch. This was
truly first of all groundbreaking vocal technique. Of course, I'm
telling you, like you don't think of her as one
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of the singers. She is one of the singers. Her instrument,
her technique is nuts.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Resonant, open like expansive voice, on her. Let me tell
you she did a performance of Mary Jane. You've heard
Mary Jane. You know the song Mary Jane by Alanis Morissett.
What's the man of Mary Jane? Had a hard day?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I know Mary Jane by Mary J. Blige. Oh nah,
gimme so different. Also a great technique on her. Well.
I first knew the song Mary Jane because Nicki McKibben
sang it on American Aisle back in the day, God
Wow season one, God Rass season one. But then I
got into Alanis amazing. She did a performance of Mary
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Jane at the Key of the Other Night. That was
like a moment in culture. It was a moment in
culture to say nothing of all the hits. You live,
you learn, Oh give it up for you live, you
learn on your feet, on your feet, for you, if
you're in your car, get up on your feet in
a pod. You better shut up, you better shut up,
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You live, you learn? Oh my god. You know what's
also funny about Elanis is like she's obviously synonymous with
like female rage. Yes, and it could not have been
more of a joyful show like obviously like towards the
end she did you ought to know, and everyone was
popping off. But it was so fun to get that anger.
(08:45):
Can I say I love anger? Tap in to the anger, honey,
it's fun to just let it go. Like you should
have seen me in therapy and EMDR last week.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Holy shit, anger can only be the really, it cannot
be the fodder for more anger. It cannot beget more No,
that is that is the only note on anger that
I have.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You're so right, but I love anger. Anger is I mean,
like expressing it in a healthy way has been something. Really,
It's actually given me peace. That's amazing because I've realized
for quite some time now I have had so much
anger that I have not expressed. And in doing this therapy,
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I'm doing like I finally expressed all my anger and
I realized what it's really about. And it's been incredible.
And then going to that concert, I was just like, wow,
you ought to know, like this is really it's very
useful for me right now. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I mean, oh, that is a pertinent song just on
the note of anger, and to just bring back.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
A piece of culture, like here's some words.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
You live, you learn, you love, you learn, you cry,
you learn, you lose, you learn, you bleed, you learn,
you scream, you learn. That is life. That is the
directionality we love to see. All roads lead to you learn. Okay, babe,
let me tell you something. Never have lyrics been more
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simple but also so dynamic. And I'm telling you just
say nothing of the hook.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
In the way it's written in sung but like that
is a cathartic moment in music. Like just to see
it so many years later really hit in the same
way for this insane cross section of people. I mean
it was very sapphic, yes, of course, but it was
also gay, but it was also straight women with their
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husbands and husbands that were really excited to be there.
And you're talking about someone that everyone respects. Show me
someone who doesn't respect Alanis Morissett.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I want to say so in this book Status and
Culture that I have tried to extole it to you.
You've bought I have it. So he has a timetable
in there for how long it takes for something, and
let's talk about it on the podcast and readers, Kese
publicist finalist, let's get your take on this. So this
is the timetable that he has.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Well, I'll just say this is from the book Status
and Culture by W. David Mars how our desire for
social rank creates taste, identity, art, fashion, and constant change.
And actually, kind of on face value, it kind of
speaks to mean boys a little bit too, because that
book is a lot about how culture politics flows downhill
from culture, like in just about like interesting things to
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think about as of late. Okay, so here we go.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
In the book, there is a table based on the
art historian James Laver, published in nineteen thirty seven. It's
a now famous chart outlining how evaluations of certain trends
change over time. One year after something comes out, it's dowdy.
Ten years after something comes out, it's hideous. Twenty years
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after its time, it's ridiculous. Thirty years after its time,
it's amusing. Fifty years, it's quaint seventy years, it's charming,
one hundred years, it's romantic, one fifty it's beautiful. I
don't know that that applies anymore. This feels very specific, but.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I'm just saying, like I think we're rounding.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I think like there's been enough of a patina on
Jagged Little Pill that it is a classic for all time.
But we were talking about Anthony Keatus on our other
podcasts Two Guys, Five Rings based on the closing ceremony.
I'm just I'm connecting Atlantis to Anthony, and I might
be a little not working, but like there's something about
those two people to me as we consume them now
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in the culture, as they perform their old work where
we go, that is a beautiful, aesthetically important thing.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
It's authenticity. And I think that's another thing that I
was leaving the concert saying, was at no point did
that feel like a contrived performance at all. I don't
think there's a contrived bone in her body and she
obviously I don't think Jaggi Littlepill was her first album
and obviously was the breakthrough, but I believe she struggled
for a second and then released Jagged Little Pill, and
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it was this like cultural moment that harnessed like a
feeling and was able to you know, hit the mainstream.
And I will say it's not even just the aesthetics
of what she was doing, which feel like Alanis. You know,
she had her Alanis hair, she was working the stage
like Alanis Morisset, like feeling like she had an aged
a day because probably her spirit, like her authenticity has
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always been there, and that maybe why, like ever since
Jagged Little Pill, like she's had successes, but nothing on
that level because she probably was resistant to selling out
a lot, you know what I mean. Like there was
the Jagged Little Pill musical a few years ago, which
I feel like felt a little odd because that musical
like marrying with sort of like the way the musical
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theater can be in a contemporary sense where it feels
a little bit like flame, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, or it's relationship to audience and that never being
the relationship that Alanis had to her audience, right.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And I also think like we're talking about these lyrics
like You Live You Learn, like when Alanis is performing
them from her authentic place as a then young person
who's like, you know, working through this, that's so different
from like you know, six or seven, you know, thirty
five year olds who booked a musical theater job singing
You Live You Learn, Like it's just not gonna it's
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not gonna hit the same. But I don't know, I
guess what I'm saying is it's like Jagged Little Pill,
like that's an authentic piece of work and to talk
about Anthony Keatis, like that's like an authentic artist. Yeah,
and they're both authentic artists. And there were moments in
this concert that she was doing things like there's a
moment where she just spins in a circle for like
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a minute, wow, and then collapses on stage with her
hair in her face and finish the song obviously extremely
nauseous and dizzy, and I'm like, she just put herself
in that state so that she could like get this
across the way she needs to get it across, and like,
I don't know, it just felt very genuine. Everything about
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it felt genuine. Everything about the messaging was so purely
from her. Like the second song in the entire set
was accompanied with graphics that were like it will take
two hundred and twenty years for women at this rate
to achieve equal pay, Like every six seconds, this happens
to a woman like these. We were two songs in
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and she was like, already, I'm letting you know that
I am this person who's still concerned about these issues
and I am still out here to speak to this
stuff that I've wanted to speak to from the beginning,
which is about that it's hard to be a fucking
woman in the way that you're treated by society and
the men in your life and the fucking narcissists that
want to take advantage of you and your youth and
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your vitality and your talent and your shine, like that
is universal. But she hasn't lost that, you know. It's
like she as a developing, maturing artist, has not lost
the edge that came along with her in her debut
and never got sanded down. No, and it feels like
she just wrote it, you know, like it's like that
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music really still works. It was cool.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I think it's time for us to announce that Alanis
Morris sat Oh my god, is in the top fifty
of the Iconic four hundred.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
No, you were announcing that today. She's in the top fifty.
That's all we'll say. We can't say where she landed,
but we can say she's in the top fifty. And
you know what she is. And if you thought maybe
we forgot about the Iconic four hundred, you're only a
little bit right.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It's coming. It's coming, it's time, it's been time. We're
just gonna say full disclosure, full transparency for the next
couple months. Matt and I will be on opposite coast.
We're gonna do this over zoom in our respective wherever
we find ourselves. I guess I was going to say homes,
but we're not even gonna be home necessarily. Don't worry.
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Matt has since found a sense of mooring despite the
fact that he is going to be bouncing around this
great nation of ours. I'm good, but we're just gonna
be doing this over zoom. So we all we have
made the joint decision to not have as many guests
in that time because we do prefer it when it's
in person, that's all.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, I think the guests are sort of a thing
where it's like, let's just make sure that it can
be the best version of what that episode is, you
know what I'm saying, And those are obviously when we're
in person, and can you know, figure video out and
do all that stuff, just because now that we've set
that expectation, we want to keep meeting that expectation. But
life being the way it is, Bowen and I are
not always together together. And to quote the title of
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a Patty Harrison film, which everyone should be seeing, by
the way, it's so good in the spirit Award nominee
Patty Harrison. I just texted her the other day to
ask her a question. I got the green text back,
which is so Patty coded. What happened? I don't know
where the fuck in the world she is, Like, I
I wish I knew. She's one of the most difficult
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people to get a hold of. And I will say
that publicly.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yes, and she would talk to that. Miraculous that you
even got a text back And this is no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I didn't. I said. What I mean is I said
my text and the green thing came up, and I
was like, Okay, well she's either dead or in Europe.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Let's hope it's the latter. Let's not put that thought
in people's heads.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
No, I don't think she's dead. Do you think Patty's
in the Iconic four hundred? Yeah? Yeah, but really low,
really low. I think she just barely made it. She's
above Blake Lively, who is having a great week. Did
we announce that Blake Lively was never to announced? We
did announce that Blake Lively was number four her. Blake
Lively is number four hundred on the list of the
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Iconic four hundred, and I guess we should get into this.
So there's drama. There's drama over the book. It ends
with us and not just within its pages.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh right, can you fill me in on this. I
don't really care to know more about the drama.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Honestly. It's one of those stories that I guess because
she is so famous like that. It's one of those
things that everyone sort of now talks about because I
too didn't care that much. Not to say I don't
love Blake. I do love Blake. I actually auditioned for
this movie. Oh, I got a new agent, and I
think he was like trying to send me on more
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like atypical things. So I went on tape. Okay, this
was funny. It was the week of my breakup last year,
like a year and a half when I went through
that thing, and I was so I was crying every day,
sobbing every day, and I had to cry on this
tape and you were like, use it. But I also
had to be straight, So I was like I had
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to like I had to manage, like how to maintain
my emotion but also seem like a love interest of
Blake Lively, who by the way, was named Atlas. Gotta
cut it out. With this name. But it was just
so funny because me crying as a straight man, like
I don't really think plays well. You can.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
You were raw enough to deliver on the crying, but
you there's that extra refraction where you're like, I gotta
be okay, it's too much though, the wires get too cross.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Because it's like you're not supposed to have those checkpoints
where you're like thinking too hard about like how you're
expressing the emotion. The emotion should just like be there
or in a way that you christrain it and then
give it. Meanwhile, like I was not in control of
my emotions, and you think, oh, this is a great
opportunity to go on tape for something emotional because I am,
And then it just didn't match up with whatever whatever
obviously didn't book. You're not gonna see me like making
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love to Blake Lively in cinema, I don't think anytime soon.
I don't know, but suffice it to say I hadn't
heard about this movie since then. I really didn't know.
It was like this huge book. It's apparently one of
the biggest books. And I guess Blake Lively and the
director Justin Baldoni like absolutely hate each other. It's one
of those like, don't worry, Darling situations where it's just
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like the director and the entire cast and creative team
like cannot promote the movie together or whatever the fuck.
And I don't actually know why. I've heard like rumors
as to why, but it's one of those situations where
it's like now bled into the public and it's it's
that right.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
The only bit I caught was Jenny Slate art pal Love,
previous guest of the show, being on a red carpet
being asked like, it must have been so amazing to
see justin like be like the director and like be
on camera and like, god, what was that like for you?
And she goes, yeah, I mean I'm totally burchering this.
But she was like, it's hard to do both. Yeah,
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it's really hard to do.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah. She fully did not answer the question, but in
a way that was very obviously like expertly touching it.
But also no, it was chic and team Jenny whatever
side she's on, which I believe is blakes. But I mean, yeah,
it just seems like one of those things where it's
very obviously a bad situation and to watch people navigate
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that in public is so it's frustrating obviously because you know,
no one wanted it like that, But it is a
little bit funny where it's just like and now of
course everyone's coming in with their opinions on what it
must be. You know, it's it's also a rough book,
and I like, yeah, have you seen the trailer. I
haven't seen any of It's like half romantic comedy. And
then this dude becomes like very violent and abusive, and
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so I don't really know how you get that across
the people. Yeah, I mean tw domestic abuse to the
nth degree. But that's what the movie is giving. So
on top of all that, it can't feel good to
have like strife, and you know, we just hope everyone's okay,
Blake looks great on the carpets.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
It can't be good to have strife. That's that just
applies across the board. And that's actually a rule of culture.
What number is that six?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
It can't be good to have stre And that's just across.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Across the board unless it's cloud strife from Final Fantasy. Steven, Now,
where does this leave us in terms of this ongoing
conversation culturally that we're all having about the purpose of
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a press tour at this point, it makes me feel nothing.
I'm like, just tell me if the movie's worth seeing.
I don't need to watch the cast play games on
Vanity Fair, you know, doing like, well, do you not
need that?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Perfect? I don't think I need it. I really don't.
Oh got to talk about your girl on hot Ones.
Arianna absolutely slaid hot Ones. She was HOI rock, she
was poised. It was graceful the hot ones and also
and funny. I love the way she talks through her
experience like she's just like hmm, like she really is given,
like it started getting Meisner.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
It's very sense memory or is that out there? I
don't even know which one of that is.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It's making me realize that I don't like hot sauce.
So she's very in touch with her emotions.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
As we all know. I loved her hot Ones and
so this is what I mean, Like, I love hot
Ones as a press chour, hot Ones, hot ones on
hot Ones. Need you on hot Ones? Have I asked? Never? Babe?
Can I tell you something it's not because of interest
or you don't want to do it? Oh? No, I
would love to do it.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I just I think I've seen every single episode that
is one of my favorite things ever anything in media
that is one of my favorite things. And Sean Evans,
I think is one of our best interviewers hands down.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Here's an idea, why don't we do an in person
with Sean Evans for Lost Culch If you'd be into
it and do it while we do Lost Culture? Could
that work?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I think there's something legal there, Like we can be fun.
What do you mean, No, it's his it's his ip loo.
He has to be protective of it. We understand, but like, look,
we get it, Like, look, we can do I don't
think some money on watching Happens Live, Sean can't do
hot ones on Lost Culture stuts, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
It's like I think there in his court, that's in depth,
balls in his court, and I'm just saying, hold on wait.
Banna says he did hot ones on Ron Burgundy Live
and it was very fun and he was very lovely. Okay,
so we're saying he's connected to the family, just saying
I would be really excited to do a one. Of
course he would, and Bowen would too. You like spice,
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can I tell you, I don't know how much I
like spice anymore, because I used to identify as like,
like I said a couple weeks ago, like a daredevil,
and that sometimes included spice. But there are times when
I am extremely uncomfortable eating out at certain places where
the spice gets involved.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
God, one thing I was thinking about with you, I
was like, Matt has really gone on this tear about
how he would any day rather eat at a restaurant
than anyone's home cooking. Do you are missing out on
a world of delight and comfort and you know love
that goes into making food.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
People don't cook for me. They don't cook for me.
They don't want me to come over in well you.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
They don't cook for you because they're not motivated to
cook for you.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Get motivated. I'm available, I'm around. No no, no, no no.
You have love for a man.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You've disinvited the notion of someone cooking for you. I
think that's what you've done. I'm calling you in, babe. Okay, fine,
you're right, But I did not mean to cut you off.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
That's okay. I didn't feel cut off. I didn't feel
cut off.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Okay, I just think for that reason. Ironically, you have
a comfort with eating. You like to eat what you
like to eat, and perhaps that is something that is
corralling you within a certain kind of dining experience, so
that you are not you maybe are not that adventurous,
(26:46):
and that's okay. It's okay to not be an adventurous eater.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
First of all, I resent that part of what you're saying.
I am a very adventurous, adventurosus eater, and I would
think that you know that because you've frequented many restaurants
with me. What I am not is a sharer. I'm
not a share. I don't like to share. I actually
really don't like a family style situation because I always
end up not getting a lot. No, that's true. Well,
(27:12):
you ate at Salas on the Bay in Pete Town.
I didn't like that sharing situation. I wanted to have
my own Andre. We we had so many leftovers. It
was not that you did not end up with that
much food. It's there was so much food left over.
It wasn't my preferred thing. Man, Can I tell you
(27:33):
my preferred thing. I'm about to go create. This is
big Max and tomatoes all over again. This doesn't make
any I'm not gaslighting you at all. I'm telling you
the truth, which is I don't like family style. I
don't like it. I want we can you know, we
can share apps, you can have a snip in my drink.
I want to eat my own entree. I'm sorry. And
(27:53):
I also say this, I don't like it, and you
told me your mom does this too. I hate that
I become like a fourteen year old when my mother
cuts a big piece of her food and just puts
it on my plate, and I'm like, don't do that,
even though it's like only benevolent, why it's not. I
think it's actually toxically benevolent. Oh my god, toxically benevolent
(28:15):
title of app.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Title that my sister and I had so many conversations
with my mom. We're like, Mom, it's actually it ruins
the experience.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
It's it's to the point of ruin. No, We're like, Mom,
we don't.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
We've told you so many it's it's a boundary issue, right,
We're like decades at this point. Please, before she even
why do all moms do this? Before she even takes
a bite, It's because she's she wants to provide. She
she wants to check the box of providing because that's
important to her. But Matt, she's cutting three quarters of
(28:50):
the chicken cutlet and plopping it onto our plates, and
meanwhile we're eating a whole fucking like yeah, gumbo or something.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
It's like like hypothetically, we are at Papa Doo's famous
k New Orleans restaurant, New Orleans style restaurant, Cajun restaurant,
and we're just like, mom, stop. It really came to
a head at Papa Does in Colorado, we were like, Mom,
you need to eat your own meal first before you
share with us. It's not that we are against sharing, right, Well,
(29:20):
at this point, it's less a thing.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
And this is like a anytime anyone like take the
mom thing out of it. It's just when you've established
that you don't prefer a certain thing to happen, and
it happens, it then crosses over to it doesn't matter
if it's a nice action. You're just not listening to me,
like I don't want that on my plate. In fact,
it's not even that I don't want it because I
(29:43):
don't want to eat it. I want you to eat it.
So that is what you ordered and I like to,
like I've been saying, I'm consistent about this. My entre
is my entree, okay. And you know that because you've
gotten your grubbers you I can tell you want a
bite of that, You want a quote unquote bite of
that often, and you see my face. Is that so wrong?
(30:05):
But Boen, you know better. You know that I want
you my food, you order it. Then if you want
it so bad when you pick something on the menu,
that's your entre, you have made a commitment to that.
But you're operating at a lack of knowledge, okay.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And I'm realizing that as soon as my mom I
can't believe I'm going here, but as soon as my
mom is no longer on this earth with me, it
will be the it will be the thing that I
mourn the most. I'll be like, I wish my mom
could PLoP a chicken cutlet onto my plate.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And we cannot go down this road because I said
there'd be no crying camping. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I just had to put that out there because that
immediately watched over me. I go, oh my god, what
kind of son?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Am I? No? Yes? And then you start judging yourself
and getting angry at yourself for getting annoyed. But it's like, no,
I'm annoyed because I was asked a question about something,
which is do you want a piece of this? I
said no, thank you, And then and then it always
is are you sure? And I'm like, yes, I'm sure.
I have all this food in front of me. And
(31:10):
then well, you know how you know my mother like
it's always like a conversation with her own self where
she's like, well, you know, I'm gonna give him a
little piece, and then she gives me a little piece,
and I have to get upset on myself because then
I hear the fourteen year old come out, mom, like
you know what I mean, like you become you were? Yeah,
when was your worst stage? When were you most petulant?
(31:35):
Teenage petulance? I think it was. It's always high school, right,
It's usually middle school for me. For me, I had
thirteen fourteen, I was not cool two people because I
was not handed myself. That was peak hatred of myself.
So that you know, you're not pointing out word in
a good way.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
No, no, no, no, one's the best diversion of themselves
at thirteen and.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
That's what contre number eight, number thirteen, actually thirteen. Imagine
you were Dakota Fanning. Oh stop it, I'm just kidding.
She's probably lovely. Now, I just mean, you know, man
on fire, Oh.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
My god, Man on fire, Man on wire, the way
we're balancing acting now, we love our moms very much, yes, okay, anyway,
do you think our moms will be on the Iconic
for one hundred?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
No? I do, But can I tell you who might be?
Speaking of moms and the performance of a mom, Joan Chen.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Oh my god, thank you for bringing this up and
a half.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I saw d D And what a movie this was,
Sean Wang, the director, the creator that you are. This
was amazing that this was I haven't seen obviously like
the Compass eighth Grade right like by Bo Burnham. But yes, yes,
these movies that like get these performances out of these kids,
these like reed, very emotional, grounded performances from these kids.
(33:03):
Like it's a genuine journey into what it was like
to be a millennial in two thousand and seven, like
a you know, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year old kid
around that time, and just the blast from the past
that was the aim aol instant messenger stuff. I was like,
(33:25):
we have to talk about this. The soundscape that didning
bear when someone logs off and the door shuts what
that It was such a trigger, Like I remember I
would used to wait for the girls I had crushes on. Yeah, yeah,
to into the thing, and I would like, you know,
(33:45):
like have aim conversations with like Summer Babe ninety eight XO.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Oh my god. And isn't there a whole smarter child
scene in the movie Oh yeah, certainly is Oh my god?
That that hit me hard and soft?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Did you used to talk to a smarter child when
like you could tell people had it with you same
and smart child? Like like I remember I one time,
I think I said to smarter child, I have no friends,
and and this happens in the movie and smarter child
was like, well, I'm your friend, smiley face, And it's
just like Jesus. It was triggering because it's like you
remember that like instantaneous comfort, but also that feeling of
(34:23):
despair when you think that that is as big as
your life is going to get, you know, like being
in middle school in high school and like when you
feelly people are mad at you. Or you made a mistake,
or you messed up, or you know, just like that
feeling of crushing self hatred and disappointment at that age
because your life is only as big as your high
school or whatever.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
The fuck of course, but like we cannot underplay how
important that moment is. I think just in film, like
there's a Smarter Child scene. I don't think this is
the first time we've seen Smarter Child on film and television,
but there's something about that moment in the movie spoiler alert,
but there's just we're not spoiling it, but there's just
(35:03):
like a you know, second act low point for the character. Yes,
and he in his desperation, in his despair, talks to
smarter Child. And I'm like, this is something that all
of us thought was just specific and individual to us.
It was a thing where I was like, this could
have only happened to me. But this is being used
(35:25):
as a plot turning point in a way that is
supposed to be universal, and like it is like Sean
Wang being like, I know this has happened to everyone
who was growing up at that time, you know what
I mean. That's I think that's incredible, the pang of
a new chat window, like not the not the low xylophone,
(35:46):
but the like so evocative, so emotional.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I mean, kudos to whoever to sound designed that for aol,
you know what I mean? Like going back like that,
that's forever. Also, there's a moment where my space comes
into play and the do you remember the top eight,
top eight? Top even the top eight would eat your
ass up? I remember there were friends of mine that
(36:15):
would deliberately fuck with me. Of course I would be
like number six and then I'd be gone and I'd
be like, oh is this person on there and not me?
And just like eight, the number eight was hard because
you either had four friends or ten friends. You know
what I'm saying. It's just like no one ever just
had like eight friends like that fit neatly in there.
(36:35):
It was like you either had a few and then
you had to fill it out, or you had a
ton and you had to cut people and then what
do you do? Oh.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I was definitely like, well I've got these three and
then the five. The other five are cannon fodder. I
wasn't thinking in those terms, obviously, but it's like that
number dictated everything and your place, Like I ate, like
it's eight is.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
The most is eighth the most important number?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I think so, oh, and you know Schoolhouse Rock had
I think the eight song for Schoolhouse Rock was sort
of the most beautiful and magical and important.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
I don't remember it. Can you perform it?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
It's sung from the point of view of a girl
who is skating. Okay, that's how it goes. I'm doing
this from memory.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Okay, figure eight or.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Rather four figure four, so rather eight if you skate,
it would be great if you could make.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
A figure eight.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
One times eight is eight, Two times eight is sixteen,
Three times eight is twenty four, four times eight is
thirty two, and five times eight is forty.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
The sensation of deal is like I'm being tickled, Like,
oh no, that was really evocative. No, there's no falsetto.
Oh yeah, that's that's my falsetto. I thought you metvibrato. No,
there's no vibrato. But it was a little bit of
a broad anyway. Besides that point that wild Yes.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
The top eight moment in the film is huge. Did
you ever put in the code so you could have
a top sixteen?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I didn't know the code. That's so you coded you
knowing the code is Bowen coded. No, no, no, that's
as far as my coding went.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
But like there was like a thing you caught, like
a thing went around school one day of like, oh
well Kayla knows like the the HTML so you can
get a top sixteen. And I remember, oh my god,
like every white girl having the Ben Folds five cover
of Bitches ain't ship where I'm sorry, but this man
is fully singing the un word earnestly like it's it's like,
(38:55):
this is such.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
A moment in time. Do you want to know what
my song was? My Space song was the entire time?
Tell me actually something, this is for memory. No, it
was never actually something because I could never be that
outwardly gay, right right. If I die and go to
hell real soon, it will appeared to me as this
(39:18):
room and for eternity, I'd lay in bed in my box,
just half stone, with the pillow under my head. Say anything, bitch, I.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Think that is the most still identify. No, but can
I tell you what that signals to me? What you
were sure of yourself. Maybe you don't feel that way,
but at least you were like you did not have
the identity crisis that the rest of us had where
we were. We were changing our song every other day.
(39:50):
And I cannot tell you any of the songs that
I had on because I was I did not know
who the hell I was, and it just ran the gamut.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Well, I'll be honest, I knew who I was, and
I'll tell you who I wasn't. I was not a
someone who was like ready to come out and put
behind these das of eyes on there, because that's what
it would have been, you know what I'm saying, right right.
But I also was not the kind of person that
was like gonna put postal service on there. I was like,
this is boring to me. See that was me such
great heights was the song. See I didn't get it,
(40:20):
but I so got this. I can't hear you can't
hear it, unfortunately, No, wait, let me play it on
my phone.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Then I don't think so many zoom like filtering out
selectively filtering out some other external sounds. It's like sometimes
we need to hear what's being what the dog is barking.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I have to tell you the people that are gonna
come out of the woodwork after I play this, Like,
I know this is going to connect me with so
many people could there. You're gonna be triggered in a
positive way. Ready, And I want to see your face
when I play.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
It if I go to hell real, so that is
it will appear to me as.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
This room and four incertity. I'd lay in bed. Oh
my god, that album was huge. Oh my god. Cold
her on the phone and she touched herself. Oh my god, bitch,
that's when I should have been putting out music. So
(41:24):
I had have no voice today. None of those guys
that put out music then have any voice today. Like
where's Ryan Key from Yellow Card? Wow?
Speaker 2 (41:31):
We have wild Away the minute. I'm sorry, I'm just
looking at the time. Time's fine while we're having fun exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
But yes, I mean just even seeing the MySpace thing
and seeing the song and everything like that, I was
like so taken back and that was culture. I mean,
that was that was the beginning. Yeah, that was the beginning.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
That was when we were in the wild wild West,
like totally like unsuper like our parents didn't really know
like what the hell we were up to.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
On the like my dad would sign me in, like
I member, he would have to come down to the
downstairs computer, our downstairs desktop and he would sign me
into AOL and then he would leave right and I
would be I would be on there all fucking day.
I'd be in the weirdest chat rooms. Yeah, oh trust me.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
I yeah, It's like it went to bad places in
those chat rooms.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
One hundred percent. Remember ASL I would lie, I'd lie.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Twenty two eight twenty two f Miami, and I would
fully have cybersex with these men.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Oh my god, Now I would love to read that
now looking back, like you creating what you think would
be sexy and hot to hear, like, yeah, I love
when you touch my boob. Yeah, my dry vagina is
on your your ass. You didn't even know to call
it dry. My vagina is getting tickli. I'm starting to
(42:51):
feel really good in my vaginas pretending to be specially
active women. I mean, look, all genders rmans.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
So I I really want to point out this moment
in the movie though, where like, and I think this
is kind of like the whole thing about that film
is where it's like he has a crush at school
and then they strike up this conversation online and then
she basically says, you're cute for an Asian guy, And
(43:23):
I don't think there's any scoring. It's just this character
sitting alone in a silent room internalizing this really important
formative moment where someone is like flirting with him, paying
him comblem but like there's an asterisk and it's about
race and like all this other shit. But it's like
there's no like filmically, there's like no sound, there's no dialogue,
(43:45):
he has no response, Like it's just all completely again
internal And I'm like that is like the millennial experience
in a lot of ways for everybody, not just Asian people.
It's like there's something about that where like you are receiving,
you are letting these emotional moments land with no way
to displace them, to like transfer them over to something else,
(44:06):
to like.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
There's no it ends with you.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
You are the final receptacle for that kind of thing
and it has to fuck you up.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Like that is a crazy thing. You know, the racial
hierarchy was such an unchecked given at that time.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
But I'm not even saying that. I'm just saying like
you probably like had moments online where like someone rejected
you or someone made you feel like shit.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Well, yes you, but just to give that moment the
way that it deserves, which is that it is a
movie about an Asian kid and an Asian family, and
he is living his experience as and like basically, you're
watching this film and you're just watching a kid. You
of course, you know, you're sitting there and you're you're
with him. And then he has this moment which is
this girl says, and there's been nothing negative about this girl.
(44:52):
You just think she's a sweet kid. They're having a
sweet conversation and she just comes out and says, you're
pretty cute foreign Asian. And it's it's, like, like you said,
it's just presented in the way that it's said, and
it doesn't even really land on him in like an
extra way. He just internalizes it and hears it and
then they move on. Oh, but it's the first moment
(45:12):
of the movie where you're like, we're really starting to
see the coming of age wheels start to turn here. Yeah,
and it's a really I mean, there was amazing scripting,
it was amazing directing, it was amazing acting. Yeah, but
what an important moment because yes, while you are correct
that like everyone based on their own identity receives their
(45:33):
own microaggressions, Like we saw a formative moment in that
kid's life that is in many ways like the and
I hate these two words, but like the why now
why today of that movie, and that like he's literally
going through changes. You know, his sister's leaving for school,
he's gonna go to the high school, and he's now
interacting with other people in this way that brings in
(45:54):
the romantic and the sexual when all these kids are forming.
And this is the idea that she spits out very
now naturally, which is that I am attracted to you
despite your limitation in my eyes right, And that is
really startling and obviously comes from a very real place
that I know, my entire theater no one was breathing.
(46:19):
It was a moment that I will remember for sure.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
I mean, you're so right though about this thing of
like we just move on from it. It doesn't even
land on him fully or in an extra way. It's like,
but I think that's kind of like what's being What
the statement is is that this human being is just
going to like live the rest of his life with
that weird pseudo acceptance, not quite acceptance but not quite rejection.
(46:42):
It's like, what's going on there? I mean, like this
connects to like my day today. The first thing I
woke up to on my phone was some fucking idiot
on scruff. I'm on the apps. You can hit me up.
I'm you can reach out to me. I'm accessible. But
some fucking idiot on scruff going, oh my god, Duel Cambooster,
I love your work. And then what I immediately said to
him was, dude, that fucking sucks. When I called you dude,
(47:04):
I'm pissed off.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
I hate dud dude if I call you dude.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yeah, anyway, I was just like, dude, that fucking sucks.
And then he unferls this huge apology. He was like, oh,
I'm you know, I'm so sorry. I should have known better.
Both you and Joel have like expressed like, you know,
you guys don't like here and like and I didn't
even respond and then like and then he ends his
whole pod being like, anyway, I'm so sorry. You have
to deal with like mid white guys like me like
(47:31):
saying stupid shit like this, and I'm like, see.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Now you're making Now you're making this thing. I have
to assuage You're like no, no, no, no, no, see here's
the thing. And oh, the fucking rage when you have
fucked up, when you have fucked up, and your instinct
is to then try and create a situation where you
(47:56):
were the victim. Because you fucked up. You need help
and I cannot give it to you. Once you've hurt me.
I don't owe you shit, bitch, period. Oh you shit,
once you have hurt me, period dot.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
And I know and this is something that this is
rit small, something that you.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Know all too well, because I will forgive everyone but myself,
and no if someone ever like someone approaches you like
that with that stupid fucking like, whether it's a joke
or whatever it is, like genuine misconception or joke, it
doesn't fucking matter. At this point. You fucked up. I
told you you fucked up, and you knew you fucked
(48:39):
up because I said the word dude, which I hate.
And now it's mid white guys like me. You're exactly right,
and keep it moving. I don't need to now comfort
you know, like it's over. You mean you did something
fucked up. You're right, you do, suck, move on, keep
it moving, go be unhappy over there. I douce to you.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
I did not start this internet conversation with you to
make you feel bad, even though like like this is
the thing now, it's like now we kind of know
how to deal with this, and like you know the
way the internet works today, but it's like in that movie,
it's like in the nascent period of the internet, of
the way that like we were communicating me and no
idea what the rules were and like what the differences
were in real life interaction.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
It's like, God, like, thank god, we've come a long way.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Thank God, I've come a long way personally in my
life to know to like respond to someone who like
says something racially stupid like that and be like, dude.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Just just just have some tact And I don't.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
And I guess tact is subjective, but I'm also like
maybe it's not like bring back etiquette.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Can I ask you something? Yeah, if I would approach
you on the dating app, not me whatever, like some
some like handsome guy. Let's let's say I'm a little
bit over perfectly midwife guy ready and I approach you
on the dating app and this is my opening line,
what what do you say? Hey? I just want to
tell you I think you're amazing. I think you're so
great and so funny, like what about that? And then
(50:04):
and then it segues into like what are you up
to like or something like that, just starting a conversation
so lovely, oh my god, or are you like or
do you feel perceived in seeing and you're like, oh no.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
I mean it depends, like I just I just don't
know when someone is like fawning, which is so kind
of them. I just don't know, like, oh, I just
don't know if you're flirting with me, and so therefore
I'll just thank you and then keep it moving.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
That is what's frustrating, right, Like it's like, cause the
deal is like if you were on a dating app,
like people they do know who you are, you know
what I'm saying, Because it's like so you don't even
have the thing of like do they know or do
they not know? Or are they interested or are they not?
It's like they know who Bowen Yang is, you know
what I'm saying. So it's like it so that first
interaction is a little bit loaded and on top of
(50:48):
like the rest of it at rest anyway, which is
weird being on dating apps. Exactly. It's fine, it's it's
there's nothing to do about it. Yeah, I don't even
know what my question is. I'm just saying, make a
joke to Bonying, especially if it's one that's like.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Well, don't make a joke to me that's about race
and about yeah, like don't like because because that's a
fucking two for because that like makes me feel like shit,
and it would. And now that I'm even bringing this up,
it's like, I don't want to like scare people like
Joel is gonna feel like shit. You know, let's just
(51:30):
cleanse this conversation and just quickly give Joan Chuen her flowers.
Oh my god, because I want you to tell me
what you love about Joone Chuen.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
What I love about Joan Chen. What I love about
Joan Chen? What an amazing human actor on screen? Like yeah,
so real, so genuine, so funny, but also very heartbreaking,
carried a really tough emotion, wait throughout a lot of
(52:02):
work to do in that performance, playing a woman who
really every single day does her best. Yeah, until it
just becomes too much and without saying too much, Like
there's a breaking point in the movie between mother and son,
which I just really it's such an important, beautiful relationship,
(52:26):
The relationship between the mother and a son, especially when
the son is struggling because there's a lack of knowing,
but there's a deep understanding and it's just so beautifully
done in this movie. And yeah, there's a moment of
humor like the in the car, like you never you
know what I'm talking about, which is just played so well.
(52:47):
And also you know, to be the adults on set
working with a child actor and like largely with child's actors,
Like it's sort of similar to what I was saying
last week about Coleman Domingo working with people, you know,
formerly incarcerated men who are in that movie, who are
non professional actors. It's like, you have to be really
special talent to make an atmosphere for people that are
(53:10):
not used to that feel good enough that they can
not only perform, but excel, to.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Make it truly horizontal, to make it like everyone's on
the same level.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
Yeah, that is my compliment to Joan Chen is how
incredible that kid's performance was. All of her scene partners
benefit from being in a scene with her, And I
just think that if we're talking about supporting performances, like
I would love to see a performance like this get
(53:41):
recognition by Awards Bodies. I would love to see it
go all the way because this is the kind of
talent that we should be seeing more of. Like, I
want to see her lead something, you know, I want
to see her do a million different types of roles
because even in this you know, archetypical part, there is
(54:03):
so much dynamic work being done, bringing so much more
to the page. And she's funny and really heartbreaking and
she feels like a real mom. You know.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
Yeah, there's a great piece on her. There's a great
profile on her Invanity Fair and I think words buzz
is kind of a thing with this for her, with
this movie, and this is someone who God, she was
telling me she directed this film called Shoeshoe The sent
Down Girl. It's about this program that happened during the
(54:37):
Cultural Revolution when kids from the city were sent to
the countryside to like work on to basically like work
in rural areas, provincial areas, to do like hard labor
for like a full year. My mom did that, and
she talks about it like a trauma. It is like
a traumatic moment in her life. It's a really it's
a it's a hard to watch film. It's like a
(54:58):
very like it's very thirty round card to watch, starting
Tracy Morgan, starting Tracy Jordan.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
They shot it in like Tibet, I want to say.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
And she was just telling us stories on the stead
of wedding banker, which she was like smuggling film out
because she was like if the Chinese government sees this,
like they will not let this movie go like be released,
and like this is a fucking badass renegade direct, like
a true renegade. And and I use that word. I
do not use that word lightly. Yeah, Icon Last Emperor
(55:27):
Twin Peaks, which is like a big blind spot for us.
I wis should be Twin Peaks gays. I think maybe
that's like that's like a thing we should embark on.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
Yeah, honestly, I'm interested in becoming a Twin Peaks gad.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
So all Twin Peaks gays are seem seme with it anyway,
it same with it. But John Chen, I think I
think there's a renaissance coming she and to say nothing
of her like I'm sorry, shallow gay nonsense, true beauty.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
She is like stunning, a stunning beauty.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
It's crazy, and she is just incredible in the wedding
banquet and She is equal parts funny devastating.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
She was the funniest person on set. She is.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
That is a funny motherfucker, Joan Chun And you can
quote me on that. Right about that. Write that up
Entertainment Weekly. Okay, anyway, go see Deity in theaters.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
Yeah. There are a million reasons to go see this movie,
and we've listed just a few of them, but yeah,
you gotta go. I actually ran into Mitra. Mitra was
there in the in the theater. I believe she loved
it a lot. Love Mitra.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
We're Mitris dand are mit Mitris Dand Sean Wang, we
applaud you. Also, yeah, everyone go check out his Oscar
nominated short documentary Short nine nine and Why Pole, which
is on Disney Plus. And the grandmother in DEDI is
his real grandmother who is in the documentary. And it's
seventeen minutes, so heartwarming, so beautiful, beautifully shop Anyway, that's it.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
I am an official, huge fan and I wanted to
say two things. The reason I was singing Dreaming by
Blondie Oh at the top was because I saw the
most amazing trailer for or a movie I'm so excited
about called Honora which is Sean Baker. I can't speak
of another Sean and I love a Sean Baker's movies.
I fucking love this movie. I loved Red Rocket like wild,
(57:12):
I love Simon Rex. That movie was fucking crazy. And
what I want to say is that this trailer fucking
nailed it with their song choice because it's like a
deconstructed version of Dreaming by Blondie, which is such an
incredible song, and we talked about it earlier, but that trailer,
like that's one of the best trailers I've seen in
a really long time. And this Mikey Madison girl, she
(57:36):
might have it all the way. She might have it
all the way. I'm excited. I'm excited about this movie.
Speaker 2 (57:42):
I think there's gonna be a groundswell for Mikey. I
think she's gonna be the girl.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
She seems to me like one of the new girls.
She seems like the Chapelona film. Yes, and you called it.
I might have to make that a real culture now.
That might be a real coach. On number forty, Mikey
Madison is the chap A film. She's about to become
one of the girls really fast, really fast. So just
(58:10):
watch for that. And the second thing I wanted to
say was you mentioned on Disney that there was you know,
his short and that brings me to I want to
talk about the D twenty three announcements. Oh so your
takes Fire and Ash. Let's go first of all, Avatar three,
Fire and Ash. It's not called the Seed Bearer, maybe
(58:31):
because they thought it was a little bit it conjured
up images of breathing too much. But yes, obviously, as
you know, I don't I don't know about Frozen three.
I guess we'll see. It really was just like March
of the Sequels in terms of like what they announced
in terms of film, I don't care that much. You know,
what I deeply care about is the theme parks. Yes,
(58:53):
did you see what they have rolled out? Because you
need to tell me. Sixty billion dollars are going into
the the Disney theme parks over the next like several years.
And this is just a few of the things that
they announced. Okay, So Disney California Adventure is getting a
ton of shit, Like they are getting a new Avatar
(59:16):
world that is going to be based in the way
of Water and Fire and Ash, which has yet to come,
but there's going to be a state of the art
boat ride, which you gotta go on and check out
this concept art. I mean, the money is, the budget
is so insane. So the California Adventure, I don't know where,
but they're getting Avatar. They're also getting a Cocoa boat ride.
(59:38):
It will be the first Cocoa with theme park attraction. Inducy.
I love that outside of that, Magic Kingdom is getting cars,
not radiator springs racers. So just beyond Big Thunder Mountain,
they're going to do cars. There's gonna be a car's ride,
and then behind that they are doing a Villain's Land.
(59:58):
So this is going to like literally at the back
of the Magic Kingdom. It's gonna be like their answer
to Dark Universe. I guess I knew it was coming
because I was like, I know, they're not just gonna
let Universal just have you know, Darkie, not when Universal
and not when Disney has like all this, like like
they're so famous for the villains, like they should do
(01:00:19):
something with the villains. So they finally are. Apparently there's
gonna be one like huge e ticket roller coaster and
then one ride which may not be as big a
deal as that, but that incorporates all of the villains.
I'm thinking that Maleficent will factor in big, but that
is like the last thing on the agenda, and we'll
see if they even get to it. Like Disney has
a history, a recent history of announcing a lot of
(01:00:40):
things and then bailing on a lot of it, So
we'll see if any of this even happens. But they
are saying this is not blue Sky, this is now
active development, and this includes too. This is the craziest thing.
This might be you and me coded in Hollywood Studios.
Toy Story has been such a hit, there's gonna be
a podcast Last Culture to Ride.
Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
I would love to see Last Culture Thread Culture rid.
It would be a dueling roller coaster. It'd be a
dueling launch roller coaster, journey through culture, journey through culture.
Oh no, these the culture have all been lost. We
have to go get them. Guys. That's so good. And
then like you go, no one knows this is part
of the podcast. It's behind the scenes. But the ride
launches after Bowen yang on Zoom goes three two and
(01:01:27):
then it goes ding do and you zip out. Anyway,
what I was gonna say is it's so cunty. There's
a Monster's Inkland with a Monster's Ink suspended roller coaster,
which is based on you know the scene where they
go on the doors and they fly through. That's I've
been waiting for a roller coaster based on that for
twenty years and they're doing it. They're actually doing it.
(01:01:50):
It feels like fan service. I'm like, this is twenty
years too late, but thank god, because this is that's
gonna be really good. No, that's gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
But also this just just makes me go, Matt Rogers
needs to enter his Kingdom Hearts era because Kingdom Hearts
three you go to Monsters, you go to Monsters Inc.
And Monstropolis, they say, and they're like, writing the doors
is a whole thing. Yes, I know the feeling of
writing the doors, not spatially but in video game, which
is pretty close.
Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Anyway, I want to know more. I will look into it.
So basically, okay, So just to return to California Adventure,
the Avengers E ticket ride, it's they're finally pulling the
trigger on that. I guess like they've been threatening for
years because that Avengers Land Avengers Campus in California Adventure
feels like it's really missing something because it is. So
they're getting a huge e ticket that's going to basically
(01:02:39):
use like the Multiverse of course, and it's going to
be like an Avenger's like larger Grand Scheme Marvel ride
that will probably use like literally everyone. And then outside
of that anim looking to them, they're going to redo
the Dinosaurs Land and that's going to be Indiana Jones theme.
It's going to be themed to Tropical Americas. So there's
gonna be a Mowana attraction finally, and there's it's like
(01:03:00):
an attraction. It's gonna be a Palm Springs attraction. You're
gonna go sit at the bar of the cow and
get really tan and drop America. You actually aged sixty
years in three and a half minutes, and Vicky Gondols
is sitting outside at a table. Have we ever said
on the podcast at the time. We went to Tropical
and Vicki gon Wolson was just there the o g Oz.
Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
And then we were all Metro was there too, and
then we were all Stone and then there was an earthquake.
Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
There was an earthquake.
Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yeah, we were at the same restaurant as Vicky gon
Wolson and when the earthquake hit in Palm Springs.
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Wow, by the way, there was an earthquake just now.
I know again, No, that's driving it was it's it's
I never feel them. It's so weird. I don't know why.
I just never feel them. And then I look at
my my text and my friends are going off like screaming,
like doing the thing with all caps exation earthquake. Like
(01:03:55):
imagine just seeing that and you felt nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
I have it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
I have a theory. You don't. Oh God, I wish
I didn't feel sometimes. I think you have shock absorption
all in the ass. Uh, you're obsessed with my ass lately.
I'm sorry. I have to gasp up my sister. You
really think it's looking good. I work, I work on it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
I think the butt is taking all of the the earthquake.
I think you are helping pure Thank God.
Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
That's why you need. We need to keep me on
earth because I need I need to sockers. What is it?
Soak up this absorption with I guess which is now
as it's it's it's now qualified as dad ass. It's
not just MAT's ass anymore. It's no dad ass. It's phrase.
I mean to say nothing of your behind, which I've
noticed has gotten larger. No, you don't have to We
(01:04:47):
don't have.
Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
To do this.
Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
See how come you're allowed to do it with me
and I can't do it with you. Well, I feel
like you must have felt set up to, you know,
compliment my ass. Know what happened was we were going
to Jimmy Kimmel Alive and we were wearing those tracksuits
and I was walking behind you and I was like,
oh my god, your ass and because it was popping
because you had told me about the group bridges.
Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Yeah, but that was the same time I think I
had previously before you pointed out my ass.
Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Day went Matt. No, it was after, I don't think
so you said something about my ass. Literally, like thirteen
years ago, we were in rehearsal for pop Roulette, and
I remember you just threw out there. You were like,
Matt has the best ass, and I remember being like,
oh my god, like because I had never really heard
that before. And then years passed and then we were
walking to Jimmy Kimmel and you made a comment about
(01:05:35):
my ass and I was just like, all right, am
I allowed to compliment.
Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
I think it's great, and it's very encouraging for me.
It means I would like to continue the group bridges
and all the work I'm doing at the Great Institution Berries.
We love you, o Berries. I'm there every day except
one day. I really shouldn't be doing it every single day,
but I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Everyone has called me in and said, seventy five hart
is structured exercise and eating disorder, and listen, you might
not be wrong, but I also I think for now
it's just laying the groundwork for some healthier choices and habits.
I'm not going to do this for all time.
Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
So I hear you. I hear you. Listen. Sometimes you
have to go a little far and then pull it
back like so I don't. I often don't think it's
a bad thing, no matter what it is. Like with diet,
it's always like you could always err on the side
of your probably being too hard on yourself. But I
think with any goal setting, it's okay to start in
a more extreme, loftier goal and then see where you fall,
(01:06:37):
you know, like, I think that's better.
Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
It's shooting for the moon, landing amongst the stars, and
the diet thing is the thing that I'm the least
strict on.
Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
I'm eating very well as you should. So it's okay.
And guess what. Guess where that goes the ass. Yeah,
so just think about that a little bit. I wanted
to say, we had a wonderful time my launch. It
happens live. We met I had met her before, but
watching your reaction to britaway Field coming in was so fun.
You were you were joyful.
Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
She's everything, She's everything, our our Jessica Rabbit, She's everything.
Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Okay. And if you think we didn't get all the
tea about Rony season two, you're wrong. And guess what,
Britna is gonna come on the pod. We're gonna figure
it out for September.
Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
I we're excited about it that it's happening, and we're
selective with the housewives just saying.
Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Very but that was a moment. That was a moment
where we were like, I mean, we have to spend
more time with this woman. We have to. She's just
mesmerizing and it was real. It's real. Okay, so she's
coming on. It was very real, like it's giving parv. Actually, yes,
oh my god, that's it. I was, does she remind
me of It's parv. It's because it's shear, sheer, star
(01:07:54):
quality combined with that flirtatious, flirtatious straight woman flirt with us,
which I love.
Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
It's not like pandering to like, it's not like not
at all. First of all, we need to come up
with a new I think I think this is there
is a cultural conversation happening right now where everyone's like,
we need a new term instead of fag hag because
it's demeaning to both it's avolved.
Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
I haven't said fag hag in fifteen years. There's just
got to be a different word that is like Judy. Sure,
let's say Judy. It's Judy quality. We liked her a lot,
we liked her a lot, but it's ParvE. It's totally ParvE. Also,
can I say, usually the Teresa people are are like
(01:08:38):
really noxious to me after I'm on watch it happens live,
because I don't make any qualms about what I think.
It's very soft this time, because I can tell they're defeated.
Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Yeah, she's a fucking look I said, I fully said,
she has a lobe missing. You sure did, And I'm
not hearing a peep from these freaks.
Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Yeah, we're all set with our opinion. Also, can I
say Teresa Judas is a Trump supporter who was married
to Joe Judaice, so none of us should be surprised
that Louie is like toxic and horrible, Like this woman
does not know what it is like to not participate
in anoxious, toxic, patriarchal culture. It's a failing of the
(01:09:17):
environment that she came up in, and I came up
in a very similar one, so I do have a
bird's eye on it, Like she is someone she advances
that she expands that environment. Sorry, actually, yeah, she did
nothing to curb anything make it better. And now it's
like now you can even see in this last season,
like Gia is going to move in with her boyfriend
(01:09:38):
right away, and she's like Teresa's like, I just wish
she'd live alone because I never lived alone. It's because
like she knows that her life could have been different
had she maybe stepped out and been you know, her
own person for a while. Like maybe now she wouldn't
be literally shriveling, losing weight, anxious, like dying because her
like a new husband, is dealing with eagle shit left
(01:10:00):
and right. Because probably there's something going on there. And
my big thing too, is it's like, why are we
so comfortable just calling Louie's X crazy, Like no one
wants to wonder about why she's has these problems, Like
no one wants to take all these people coming out
of the woodwork seriously, like no one thinks no one
(01:10:23):
that's team Teresa thinks that there's not something smoke and
fire about the hole Louis thing like, really, but these
people are morons? No exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
I mean that is like the classic biggest red flag.
It's like, oh, you're you're dating somewhere, you're with someone,
and all the ex'es are quote unquote crazy. Me thinks
not the red flags couldn't be clear, and you hate
to see it. You hate to see it's red flags.
It's crimson banners. Sometimes something's bigger than a red flag
and it's a crimson banner.
Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
And to be honest with you, those are even harder.
Clock When something is so crazy that it's beyond a
red flag, it's a crimson banner, you actually think like, oh, well,
this can't this, this must be the way that this
needs to be dealt with because it's so huge, you know,
(01:11:14):
what I mean, like, this can't be a red This
isn't this this is just like a necessary like thing
I'm putting myself through because it's so crazy. I think
that's what's happening with Louis. But yeah, it's not like
little tiny things like oh that's weird the way they
talk to the waiter, or oh that's weird, like, uh,
they didn't know this about, you know, someone they're supposed
to be close to, you know, Oh that's weird. Like
(01:11:35):
they a little white lie about this thing that I
caught them in. That's weird. It's like those are sometimes
easier to track, and the big things are like, well, yeah,
I mean it's a big thing.
Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Well, the big things for this guy are He's literally
saying in the finale, I hope Marge's children, his son,
her son suffers as much as I have suffered. Don't
wish that upon a fucking kid. Don't wish that upon
someone who's like of a different generation than It's like,
don't don't. Just that's fucking wild. Anyway, I don't want
(01:12:07):
to talk about these people.
Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
He's the worst person on television and would love to
not watch him anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I'm totally Okay, whatever happens with Jersey, God bless let's
give this a Viking funeral, shoot our fiery arrow into
the sky. I did that in my mentally with Potomac.
I'm like, my life has been a million times better
without Giselle Bryant and Nashley Darby and all these other
fucking people.
Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Meah, Thornton like, I don't miss these people for shit.
Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
I mean, the fact is, though they will be back,
no I know, but it's gonna be in my life.
I won't be back as long as they're on the show.
I'm sorry, I just won't.
Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Look.
Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
There are bad people in that, in that little environent.
We love all those people and Bravoland, but there are
people that are concentric circles around that that I'm like, oh,
I am not getting anywhere near.
Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Y'all say no more, because I learned that the hard way.
All right, So let's get into I don't think so honey,
before we actually do that with our life. And I
(01:13:19):
have something to say. Okay, this is Matt Rogers. I
don't think so many as time starts yet, I don't
think so honey, that Barack Obama actually listens to the
song three sixty five by Charlie XCX, which he would
suggest when he put out his Barack Obama summer playlist.
Barack Obama listened to me maybe von Dutch, maybe three sixty.
(01:13:39):
But I do not think that you, Barack Obama. Former
President Barack Obama listened to three sixty five, and I
think you need to just pull it back a little bit.
You really you went too hard, like the intern jumped out.
I understand, we're having a brat summer. We're all very
excited about Kamala. You showed your ass there. Yeah, because
(01:14:01):
I know that you're not listening to that song, which
is mostly about doing keys and bumps. I just don't
buy it for you, Barack, and I wouldn't want to.
I'll tell you who I buy on your list. Lucinda Williams.
That's who I that's giving me Barack her five seconds.
I see that I stand as well. Charlie xx's three
(01:14:21):
sixty five, maybe vondutche three six five. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
And that's one minute anything Barack and ag Cook the
dare doesn't really doesn't.
Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
I'm not seeing it. And that's a very highly curated
anticipated list like whenever his shit comes out. That's like,
this is my favorite movies of the year. They always
make the rounds and I'm like, I've always bought it
and been like, oh cool until I was not three
six five by Charlie x X and I was like, no,
someone on your team said this should be on there.
You don't like this song. Going back to helanis not authentic.
(01:14:55):
I mean, he could never be Alanis. And I say
this as a Barack fan.
Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Read the Status, Status and Culture Book. There's a whole
thing like it's like it's signaling and the authenticity plays
into it, and it's like when you spot the inauthentic
thing like that, it's it's game over, Like we might
be seeing that.
Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
I don't know who can mean. I'm telling you. I'm
telling you. If it was done dutch by, I'd be like, okay,
if it was grow so confusing, I would be like yes,
three six five, I don't know. And if someone I welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Proof, I think readers Katie's public is finalists way and
yeah we in do we think Barack Obama, the forty
fourth President of the United States, has like me, listened
in a ketamine stupor to three six five and understood
what's going on there.
Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
I guess that's another thing too, is it's like it's
so it would suggest he understands that culture in a
way where I'm like, maybe, how do you Yeah, even
if you do, I don't want to hear about it,
you know what I'm saying. It's like I don't need
to know that Barack. Is that I'm saying. It's like,
(01:16:03):
if that's what he thinks, cool? Is it rubbed me?
I was like, I just don't.
Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
It's just sometimes it's I felt for a couple of
years it's been giving Steve Desmy like me and how
do you do fellow kids?
Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
How do you do fellow kids? Anyways, this is Bowen
Yang's I don't think so, honey. Are you ready to go?
Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
I'm ready to go, and Bowen Yang's time starts now.
I don't think so, honey. I know there is a
lego version of Fanny in the Wicked Lego collection that
it's coming out. I listen, I'm buying it. I'm gonna
buy it for my nieces and my nephew. But I
know there was a Fanny lego and it's not being sold,
and I'm a little hurt. And listen, I'm an ancillary character,
(01:16:43):
but I think I look, they're using me in some
of the trailers. I'm in the Fierro trailer, every trailer
that I improvised, and I kind of think Fanny's gonna
is gonna slay and the people are gonna want a
Fanny lego.
Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Trust their to believe.
Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna I'm gonna advocate for myself
and gas myself up. Fanny is a fucking legend. I'm
so proud of I'm so proud of what we do
with Fanny. I'm laughing because it's just it's funny to say.
But I would love to see the Fanny lego. Look,
they did a whole lego Fanny trailer, right, I'm sorry,
they did a whole Lego trailer to like the long
(01:17:17):
extended trailer of Wicked and Fanny has there's a Fanny intentionon.
Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I know there's a Fanny lego. I would love to
see the Fanny lego sold in stores. And that's one minute.
And let me just agree roundly that we need to
see a lego Boone Yang as Fanny, please, at least
limited edition, you know what I mean. At least for
a short time only you know what I'm saying, and like,
at least produce enough so that people can get them
(01:17:43):
as a collector's thing. Who doesn't want a little lego? Bowen,
are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Funny collector's item me with that cunty little hair and
glasses like, come on, it's good hair. This is not masturbatory.
It's just like, I think that would be a fun lego.
Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
I think it will be great. Come on, I think
it will be great. By the way, that was a
good trailer, and I had been waiting for more. Johnny
the character triggers me. Serrao triggers you. Wait, yeah, I
don't like that kind of guy. I don't know. No, no, no,
he's I read for please, I did read for that part.
You did read, but you don't like don't like that guy.
(01:18:20):
Don't like that guy fiero. He's up to he gets
his come up and he sure straw turns the straw
like all narcissist should No, I'm sure, I'm sure it'll
be wonderful. Uh looks good. That's good. That should be.
You know the drink your milk shirt? I have the
drink your milk shirt. Me too, Thank you, Thank you.
(01:18:43):
Josh should wear it when john comes on the Johnny
of course, when Jonathan comes on the podcast, we should
wear it.
Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
We definitely shouldn't anyone who is out there playing Final
Fantasy fourteen britis Kase's help us finalists who play Final
Fantasy fourteen. I do think there should be a subgroup
of gamers. I say, no, You're all are out there
because we're connecting. So Jonathan Bailey does a voice in
Final Fantasy fourteen. Oh fun as Grahatia, the Prime cat
Boy the Crystal exarc, and he's so good in it,
(01:19:11):
and I literally like massive, wonderful actor. But like the
dialogue in that game is like Shakespearean, It's beautiful. But
one day after we react, I was like Jonathan, Johnny
as I call him, I said, I have to commend
you beg and I was like, I have to implore
you because they every two years they come out with
expansions and it's like more and more story and it's
(01:19:31):
like it's like a TV show basically, And I'm like, Johnny,
you have to keep voicing Grahatia for as long as
you are working, for as long as they ask you,
because it is some of your best work. Anyway, what
did he say? He said, all right, don't really know
what it is. I just but I read the dialogue
and it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
But I think.
Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
We will ask when Jonathan Bailey comes on Last Coach,
there will be a dedicated section about Final Fantasy fourteen
and all the cat Boy lovers will be very happy.
Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
And he is coming on. We're gonna have many people
from the cast of Wicked, if you can believe, we
have vested interest in that movie's success, and we will
make all the help exceeds. We will make sure it
makes back every dollar of the budget. We are going
to make sure that Wicked makes it over the hill.
Trust it and believe. And it starts with Johnny Bailey
on the podcast and more to come and more to
(01:20:23):
come if you can kind of guess.
Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Yeah, this has been another episode of Lost Culture's Tests
and a little teaser for Iconic four hundred, which I
think we should get to work on, which is not
to say, oh, I'm just kidding. The list is already locked.
We know the entire list already, and we will be
revealing that in the coming weeks, won't we for sure?
Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
And that's something we can do remotely, so, but we're
going to be together actually shortly. Oh we just talked
about how we're not going to be together, but we
are going to be together for like two weeks. Did
you know that. Let's figure something out because you're coming
to La, then we're going to Fire Island, and then
I'm going to be in New York. So we're together
a lot bit actually working hard to bring you guys content.
In fact, we're working very hard. This is a very
(01:21:06):
fruitful time and we are taking advantage of it trying
to write some wrongs. Oh well, we end every episode
of the song No One mourns the weeked.
Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Wacked.
Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
We look for that one on November twenty seventh, twenty second,
twenty second. Oh they changed it. They changed it. They
moved Ariana I think said twenty seventh on Hot Ones. No,
she said, twenty second, twenty second.
Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Really hold on, let's say no, no, hold on November
twenty second, because they moved it up so that it's
like Wiki eight.
Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
And now it's clicked. No, is it wicked? Eier? It
needs to be clicked.
Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
Okay, click it, click it, Jimmy glicked Bye bye last
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