“Treasures Untold” (w/ Matt + Bowen)

The sisters are back for another culture catch up and they have a lot to cover! They talk Broadway plays Purpose and Death Becomes Her, the use of staircases in theater, Jesus Chris Superstar, Josh Sharp's show Ta Da, the importance of adopting dogs, why you need to TURN YOUR PHONE OFF, the new Naked Gun film, horror films versus haunted houses, Conan Gray, new Demi Lovato AND old Demi Lovato, 'meep' culture, The Hunting Wives, ending the Jax Taylor discourse, ending email, the end of AJLT, and of course Happy Birthday Kyle Cooke. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Look man, oh, I see you my own bow and
look over there is that culture. Yes, goodness, Wow, lost culture,
ding dog, lost culture. We just watched your fingers on
the countdown, and don't you do that every time? I
was really like intent on watching the finger countdown because
you know, bts everybody Bowen Yang famously every single episode

(00:23):
counts three to one with his fingers. But this time
I was just like really focused on it. Ypno, I
have the dog. I have the dogs. Speaking of, we're
recording this on Matt's first day back and the hallowed
halls of thirty Rock at the Today Show. I was
at the Today Show today. We're recording this on Monday,
and we really didn't get into it last week. We
just kind of said there was a thing with dogs,

(00:45):
but yeah, this is what's been happening. So bad ass.
What are they? Bad? Animal Rescue? Bad ass Animal Rescue.
This amazing company that's like fostering dogs and helping them
get fostered, helping them get adopted in Brooklyn has named
two dogs Bowen Yang and Matt Rodgers. Wow. And they

(01:06):
are angelic. Yes, and it is truly every whenever they post,
I feel I have to repost because we have to
get these dogs homes. I know. No, And they're just angels.
They're from Alabama. Yeah, they're they're they're rescued from Alabama.
So this this company badass. They hire dogs from high
kill shelters and you know, bad situations. Did I say

(01:27):
that they hire them, they respect them. I said they
hire them. What they do is they hire the dog. No.
And so there's a bow and Yang and the Matt Rogers,
a husky mix that's bowe Yang. Then there's a hound
mix that's Matt Rogers. And they brought Matt Rogers the
dog to the Today Show. He was such a good boy.

(01:48):
I do think you need to think about it, not
to pressure you will not like. No, I'm thinking about
it because then there was another one you loved. Dabby
Wendy explain her. She is a fight. She has perky
little ears, gorgeous wide set eyes. It's giving.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
It's giving, Dabby, it's giving emm a stone, it's giving,
you know. Hanny Taylor Joy Wow, a beautiful ange new Doge. No,
she is an Angenoux. And yeah, and you look, no
DIBs anyone in Brooklyn or who wants to come pick
these dogs?

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Up from Brooklyn. Please just just just just give these
dogs forever home. All I want is for them to
get adopted. But I will say I told them someone
just cracked open there. There there rich cigarette there refresco
as it were one of the best words for refreshments,
refresco Spanish. Yeah, I deeply want these dogs to just

(02:45):
be adopted. But I will say I knew it was
going to be dangerous. I laid eyes on that dog
and I was like, Oh, you have to be in
my life. You have to be in my life, so
I I'll I think I would like to be the
dog's godfather. I would have to rename him. You couldn't
have a dog namedtt Roger, I don't think so. What
about Junior?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Well, but hey Junior, Well, speaking of Junior, we have
to talk about a play in which this figures heavily
into y'all y'all, okay, hold on, he maybe saw the
best play, one of my favorite plays I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, we're talking about purpose, purpose, and more to say
about Last Coat figuring into that Laura as well, Oh, yes,
because we got it confirmed.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
We got it confirmed, I see, But I was also
but even like today, I was talking to someone who
who'd seen and he was like, I mean that's you.
Like there, whatever, there's a reference to toe. The line
is she was talking about to gay two intense gay pies.
She was asking a podcast fifty hours of two intense girl,

(03:48):
intense gay guys who are really invested in pop culture. Yeah,
and so you know it is us because our producer
went to the show, went backstage and met up met
with Brandon Jacobs Drinkins, the phenomenal player right.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Of the show, and apparently anecdotally he has confirmed it.
He confirmed it, so we knew we had to see
the show and we are so late on this one.
Oh so, by the way, we're sort of burying the
lead here. We are going to talk about the Cultural Awards,
which are now out. Thank you for watching it if
you did. If you haven't, you can stream it right
now on Peacock, which feels crazy crazy, but Bowen and

(04:21):
I were able to watch it together and we love it. Yeah,
you can watch it now, and so we're going to
talk about it at the end. You haven't watched it,
no spoilers.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
We are respecting that backloading so that you guys can
tap out and watch if you haven't already.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
We went to go see Purpose finally. Well, I guess
the the Tony winning Best Play this year by Brandon
Jacob Jenkins. Yes, I'm directed by al Rashad. Yes.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
And I really didn't know what to expect. I think
that was the way to go in. Obviously knew about
the accolades, but I was like, I don't know what
this is going to be and was really blown away.
I mean it was delighted.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
It was. It started off with genuine curiosity and then
once everything gets established, there's a lot of really important
setup that happens in the first I would say hour
or so of the show, right, and then DoD it
really all just pays off. Yeah, it's just like painting's
gorgeous painting and then watching the painting destroy itself. That

(05:24):
it's really I mean, it's I think it's loosely based
on Reverend Jesse Jackson's family. This family is called the Jaspers,
and it's just about like this incredibly important prominent black
family in politics and religion and the sort of esteem
they hold in their community, and how that esteem is

(05:46):
dealt with on the inside while having to project so
much to the outside world and every member of the
family is dealing with some different strife in relation to
their role in the family or their you know, position
in their life. And like you were saying when we left,
like it's doing a lot.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's expansive and all takes place in one in one
sort of set piece, but just the living room of this.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Home, the living room in this home. But it covers
so much ground in terms of as you mentioned, civil
rights and religion and like sexuality and fertility and like
neurodivergence and all of these things that like somehow it
never gets bogged down by Yeah, also like misogyny within

(06:33):
family structures in many different ways. It just took me
back to family period.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I was thinking about my family the entire time, which
you know, not not to center like an Asian experience
onto a black one, but it was just like the
way this is knailing family is crazy and a way
that even like made me think, I said to you,
is like God. Like when when the show first started,
I was like, Okay, this is like the fellaship thing
makes total sense, Like it's it has that sort of
air of like that kind of humphort and like that

(07:01):
family interest that like she's she's obviously known for, but
it's like it completely gets slipped on its head in
a crazy way.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's really one of those things
where it's like pretty much every moment is compelling, and
it's a bits a constant build, which is hard to do.
And it started it started with a really long monologue
by the main character, and I was sitting there and
I was like, Okay, is this going to be a
monologue driven show, like a show to sustain attention, But

(07:30):
it was really just a testament to just how thick
and how dynamic the situation between these characters are. That like, yes,
of course we did have that you know, monologue set up,
but then the scenes just sang like really funny, really smart,
really surprising. I didn't think I knew where it was

(07:52):
going at any given moment. And there are a number
of Chekhov's guns that do literally go off. But it's
almost like really fascinating to watch a play. No, that's
exactly what it's doing. It's a very smart, very contemporary play.
And he also wrote Appropriate with Harrah Paulson. If you
guys saw that a couple seasons ago. But I think
one of the one of my favorite things about it

(08:15):
was I said this to you afterwards. Two shows actually
that we've seen in the past weekend. You've seen what
I've seen before use this thing to maximum effect, and
that is a staircase. There is a staircase in purpose
that several different characters when they've just had it like
on the first floor of the scene, sort of ascend

(08:38):
the staircase and like give it to the rest of
the characters like it feels very dramatic and of course
in depth becomes her. The staircase scene from the movie
is recreated. And I know you just saw that and
probably have a ton to say, yes, but don't sleep
on the staircase as a set piece. No, it is drama.
And it's actually a rule of culture number ten. Sleep

(09:00):
on a staircase as that piece. It is drama.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I remember one of my formative theater experiences was seeing
the Smoky Hill High School production of Hello Dolly the
year of the year before I would end up going
to that high school. And when to know, a staircase
is used to great effect in many iterations of that show.
But just on the titular number of Hello Dolly, if

(09:24):
you have if Dolly LEVI comes out on a staircase.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
That's that's all you need to do, jumping for joy.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
The rest of the show can be dog shit, And
I'm happy if I see a woman as Dolly Levi.
I doesn't have to be it doesn't have to look
age appropriate. She can she can be in high school,
she can be ninety five years old. As you know,
Carol Channing was in a production.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
But god it, staircase isn't theater huge. It is a
major And don't think I haven't noticed that staircase over
in the West End Avida. Yeah, at least at the
end of the show there's a staircase. And of course
we're playing with levels there because Zegler is up on
the balcony giving what they're saying is one of the
best performances in recent memory, which this is crazy because

(10:10):
they just said that and were right by Lloyd's last work,
so he continues to crush. I am really holding myself
down in my chair to not fly to the West
End and go see it there first, because I'm just
gonna pray and hope that they get it together. But
I need to see that performance. I need to see
that number. I need to see those screens. I need
to see that staircase and balcony work come to Broadway.

(10:35):
Staircases are very important. Staircases. We might have to do
something with that. Yeah, what do we do?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I think the next last Culturista's Culture Award should have
a staircase.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
We'll have a staircase. We did have stairs. We did
great stairs. I got to utilize the stairs and you
kind of did for a second. Yeah, I went down
very quickly. I think we should have one on stage.
That will be a huge expenditure, but I feel that
it will be worth it. I would agree, I would agree.

(11:09):
So I just want to before we wrap up talking
about purpose, I just want to shout out a lot
of arenas, a lot of arenas, because we said, she
played Morgan in the movie who's the wife of this
sort of disgraced eldest son, and did you know this?
So all of the actors got from Tony nominations except
for her. Really, and I said to myself, now, this

(11:32):
is why she needs extra mentioned almost coach, because we
were living for the whole cast, but especially for a lunch.
She was ferocious well from the first moment, because they
really you it like the way she's written and revealed
like there's a slow drip of her and it's a
power keg whatever whatever, mixing metaphors, but she really really

(11:53):
pops for us, pops for us. I guess it was.
It was our show.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
But by the way, we have to talk about that audience.
Oh yeah, this is part I don't think Sony later
see it's not.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
But because I I I need a more measured way
to pop off about this. This is the floor so anyway,
like these actors are tearing it up and what the
a lot? We just had a shout Alana still before
I'm me let me put a little comment on that. No,
literally shouting her out to to the high heavens. And
I'll tell you who else was shouting out from the audience.

(12:22):
Was the audience? Was the audience a very engaged audience,
which we love, We loved. Here's the thing about the audience.
It was a mixture of like such an active crowd,
people really reacting to everything, really fun to be there,
and some of the most disrespectful people. I'm I'm I
turn around an OL friendly sick cell phone, cell phones

(12:43):
going off one an our row. I have to say,
you need to turn your phone off and off. I
get that maybe everyone that we're talking to right now
might not be the target audience for this, because I
think there was. It was elderly people. It's older people.
You need to reach out to the people in your
life that are going to these shows and letting you

(13:03):
know they're going and just make sure they've got their
phones off, because it's crazy. They had Felicia Rashad herself
getting on the godmic, like in a taped vo that
was like, please turn off the phones. They weren't even
allowing snacks into this theater because of noise concerns, Like
they were really going the extra mile, and these people
are so disrespectful, And if you are sick, do not

(13:26):
go to a live theatrical event. If you were sick
hacking up, cough hacking up al Vi Ali God turning
these lungs inside and out. I said this to you,
really really come after me. It's obviously this is not
the right take, but it's like, if you know for

(13:49):
a fact that you have a coughing problem on the day,
I think it's worth considering maybe not going to the theater.
Retire the side. You do not have to go if
you if you're hacking up coughing. Seriously, I bet even
if you called, I actually wonder about this. I wonder
if you called the theater and you were like, I

(14:09):
am infirmed, Yes, I am unable to to make it
to the performance because I will be a distraction and
it's it's not a safe atmosphere. Can I get my
refund and or reor you know, can I reschedule, et cetera.
Would they not do that?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I feel like they would unless we really have like
had such a crazy amnesia about COVID that like that's
just that would be so unconscionable to the theaters. I
really hope that there's something in place anyway, like a
lot of coughing, lot of coughing so much and I'm
not even being like, no, we were, we were in

(14:46):
chuck were it was like every two seconds someone was
cartoonishly coughing. Because the thing about the cough is it's like, okay,
I'm a little bit more lenient with that because it's like,
I mean, the seats are tight. Sometimes you might see
it's like you're making a whole fuss trying to get
out of the seat whatever, Like you know, I have
a little bit more grace for that.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
The cell phones, I have no grace for the because
these people are on stage giving it everything, like and
you are, and it's it's always like a ring a
ding ding, wack a doodle, lack a doodle time ring tone.
It's whack a doodle ring tone with a whack doodle person.
I'm sorry, yeah, people, I turned, I turned to look

(15:26):
at some of these people and I was like, of course,
I'm sorry. No. It was very of course vibes because
it was what the oldest whitest people in America coming
to this play and acting disrespectful. It was crazy irony.
There is is ironic. It's just it was just so
uncomfortable and disrespectful, and it happened, I'm telling you six

(15:47):
six times. It was the most I'd ever seen. I
was like, but it's the Year of Our Lord twenty
twenty five. This is the Tony Award winner for Best Play.
You couldn't even bring a snack in because of the
because of the concerns.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I thank you for validating this because I felt like
I was going crazy.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
It was actually one of those rare moments where I
was like, oh wow, this is something actionable. That I
can be upset about and my upset will perhaps affect
things for the better. And you were really flustered, and
I was like, I just know we're going to make
this part of our whole thing going forward. Yes, me
at the sign off of everything, turn off the phones

(16:23):
in the theater, turn off the phones. Yeah, this is cuckoo.
Just do do not disturb. Don't even airplane mode silent
has existed for eighteen years on the AD can't be
on vibrate even during the show. It has to be
you have to ignore the warning and keep it on
the volume. Human beings don't deserve technology as we are

(16:45):
seeing right, especially as it gets more advanced. We do
need it taken away. What say you about them being
like kids can't have phones until they're sixteen. I do it,
I mean, but there's it's really hard as a pair,
I mustn't, but I as a parent, I'm sure it's
so hard to draw that to two. Yeah, sure, but
they did it before.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
The parents of today would say, but it's just so
part of our world now that like for kids to
like shield and deny kids of that up until they're sixteen,
while like from it very from the age of four,
every screen is being shown in front of their faces.
It's like, how do you how do you deny that?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Look, I'm not saying it's going to be an easy
thing to do. And then maybe this is bordering on me,
you know, you know, performing my least favorite expression, which
is Devil's Advocate. But like, if the problem is that
it's such a fixture in our world, then like you
have to start like regulating that from an early age
so that like these you know, little people when they

(17:45):
become big people don't like need it and require it. Again,
I'm on record here and being like I'll never be
a parent. I don't see it for myself. I don't
think it would be it would work for me. So
whatever is working for you. But you know it's another
reason it's tension spans are is really zapp right. I
can't like it's like a chicken or the egg things

(18:05):
for me where I'm just like, well, I don't want
kids for this reason because it's like I'm going to
bring someone into the world whose brain is going to
be liquid by the time there's there's there's they're eight
years old.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Because of like yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's already happening
happening to people who are fully grown. Yeah, so I'm like,
in no way, I'm not going.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
To be responsible for an extent, for like an extension
of myself out in the world acting that way. And
so and this is a lot about what purpose is. Actually,
You're gonna be honest with you. It's like it's like
I because it is about like purpose and legacy. Yes,
it's like you create something in your legacy and then
you see it when it's become a realized thing, and
you're like, holy fucking shit. Can't you say that can't

(18:46):
be my fault.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
I can't be my fault. And yeah, it got me
thinking though. I was like, my purpose, the meaning that
I draw from in my life is the thing that
I think is the most direct panacea to despair, which.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Is connection community. I don't think you necessarily have to
have a child or you know, have to like check
off any boxes besides just like connecting with someone. And
I was like, my best friend is sitting right next
to me, and my purpose is just like our friendship
and just trying to like radiate that outward to people
and have them be a part of that. That's my purpose. Yeah,

(19:20):
you know what I mean, It is kind of interesting
to see something that's like, you know about family and
like anyone that is in a family, or even a
chosen family, I guess like not really, this is really
about the blood ties that bind and how that can
be restricting even if it feels elevating to everyone else.
But it was interesting to watch a piece that like
kind of was like arguing anti family, and yet they

(19:45):
this is an example of a family that, you know,
because of power and influence, like does to be able
to have each other's backs in this way that you know,
maybe in the short term is helping them, but certainly
in the long term is damaging their souls. Right on
that point, exactually, like I think this is why we're
shouting at alone Arenas specifically because that character does so

(20:07):
much of the sort of clarifying work in the show
in terms of, like, wow, this family is really really fucked.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Up in terms of how it deals with outside people.
And she just has a great scene in the second
act in the middle of the night. That's all We'll say. Yeah,
she does have it. She doesn't have a line with that.
I think we both loved Chris. I'm about to eat
this here cake.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Just at the same time hilarious, devastating, devastating too. Yeah,
her first line was hello, whatever it's yes, you know
what I'm talking about. Yeah, she's just she's got We
really are fans. We're huge fans. We're fans. And also
shout out to Carrie Young who won the Tony Award
for this, who is her second Tony Award right in
a row. She's been nominated in this category several times

(20:51):
and like an icon, and we are very proud that
you gave a performance as a reader. Yes, I turned
a man.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
The fact that this carearacter is finalist, then she's a
reader because because the character is not a spoiler er,
she's a she's a social where she does she's in
VOLTI social work, and she's very just you know, aware
of her community and ben politics and everything, very much
a reader.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, I think definitely fits the bill. If people want
to know what a reader is, you got to go
see purpose. Oh, we can't explain to you anymore. It
closes end of August, so if you're if you have
a chance to see it before then please Yeah, now's
the time, and hopefully you know it tours and has
a life beyond this, I think it would be really
worthwhile for people to read. It's just one of those
like really great new works. And now I think that

(21:35):
kind of closes, at least for me, the New Discovery
day you finally saw Death Becomes Her this weekend, so
long overdue.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
I mean I'd heard for months and months and months
like this is your kind of show. I'm like, I know,
I really know. And even saw Paul like after the
tone and I was like, Paul, I haven't seen it.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Who did the costumes for Wicked and concert and a
phenomenal job in both. I mean, every single person on
that stage looks amazing, just like in Wicked. I'm like, oh, same,
same for not as single, Like yeah, very detailed and
just gorgeous down to the detail. And he like he's
so good at like making people stand out in very
character specific ways. But also he's good at like he

(22:27):
he says, like he's good at peopling you know, the space,
like with Odd with Wicked, like he does that in
every like shiz, I don't city wherever much land, so
good at that, like this is a group of people
and how does that look? And whatever? I wonder if
he sits in on auditions for because because you're kind
of like when someone like Paul is involved, I would
imagine that it's almost like you're kind of looking at

(22:49):
like not only dancers, but also models for your creations,
and like, I really wonder about that process because he's
such a huge part of why these things are as successful.
Like I wonder how creatively improvatorially involved he is.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I'm sure very because I'm because I'm because I'm like, yeah,
like I'm referencing like the fact that like everybody on
that series is just just everybody.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
In that company looks phenomenal. Michael, Yeah, Mikey Recepa you
might know from Fire Island. We've known him for years.
He's like one of the Broadway boys. So when he's
fabulous in the shows, hot as shit of course, and
oh my god, just there's nothing I love more than comedy. Yeah,

(23:29):
it's so funny. It's just so funny.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
And when it's when something is funny in that way,
I just go, oh, thank God.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah. I feel like I've like gotten cynical over the years,
just like doing the being lucky enough to do the
jobs that we do where we really have to like
buckle down and like think about and pick apart comedy
in a way that like doesn't take the fun out
of it but just makes you like take it seriously,
which is like what you have to do sometimes. But
sometimes you realize that it's just about like the guttural sensation.

(23:59):
Yeah huh, that this surprise element of wow. Didn't see
that coming. And sometimes it's a lot easier to see
things coming when things are relying on playing emotional beats
and so something like death becomes Her or something else
that we saw. I want you to keep talking about
this is moving into I think a bigger conversation, which

(24:21):
is where comedy is at and where maybe it should go.
And I think we are firmly in camp movement towards dumb.
I mean, if you watch the Cultural Awards last night
or are going to stream it today, you'll see that
we are proud to be part of the movement towards
stupid bullshit. Yes, and death becomes Her is that absolutely,
and I will also being like incredibly well done and executed.

(24:43):
But it's also like you know, they take a potion
and they you know, death becomes her, but it lives
alongside like a Paul Tazwell, like highly elevated departments. Yes,
like it lives alongside Paul Tazwell, lives alongside Christopher Gatelly
directing this like everybody is at the top of their game.
Chris ciber I thought it was a million is so good.

(25:04):
I loved his number. Jennifer Samar, Megan Hilty, Yeah, some
like our too funniest motherfuckers. Yeah, that was crazy. I mean,
like just the duet that's happening on stage between them
the whole time to speaking, to say nothing of the
songs that they actually do share, which are so great,
but they are so perfect in this And I know

(25:25):
we've been fans of both of them for such a
long time, but you know, even in that like crazy
ass like best actress in the musical Tony Race, Like
I was like, you know, part of me is not
going to be upset off one of them just sneaks
from behind and takes it, because I mean that was
a stacked Is this a statue is truly stacked? Truly
like Nicole Oudra, Meghan and and Jennifer and then and

(25:48):
then miss Jasmine am with you like could have been
the best of course it was five great nominees. Yeah,
Samard like just like how confident and you have to
be to like, of course be performing out on a
Broadway stage, but also throwing it away and in contrast
to the bomb bass that is making Hialty, who, by

(26:08):
the way, reputation like precedes her in many ways and
still blows it away, I know, still blows it away.
You know. I wonder how she feels about this, because
I think it's so fucking cool and I think it's
very aspirational and they wish like more actors could be
identified this way. So many of the things that she's
done two handers yep, like between Wicked and Smash and

(26:31):
this and like, and of course she has a huge
array of other work that is singular and yep. It
showcases her. But I think that's so amazing that she
she's so comfortable sharing the bill in the space with
another actor who is on the horizontal to like lateral
in terms of that kind of whatever positioning. It's like,

(26:52):
I respect the fuck out of that. Yeah, absolutely, I
mean she I think you probably first became aware for
one I did, which was as like a young and
day boy youtubing Glendy Yes, and then like seeing what
she was capable of then, and it felt like when
she booked Smash when we were I guess like in
college college. It kind of felt like I remember like

(27:13):
reaching back to my younger gay self and being like,
oh my god, Megan Hilty is on a big television
show like we won, We're kicking ass. And then even
on that show she was so fucking good but so
underappreciated now like Ivy in terms of like giving a
performance in a musical show, like no one was doing

(27:33):
it like that now, and also not that anyone was
getting opportunities to do it like that, but nobody could
do it like that. There was a few numbers that
she did on that show, one called Let's Be Bad.
Let's Be Bad, which also was then It was then
in some like It Hot the musical, Yes, yes, yes,
but she crushed that all the big musical theater set

(27:55):
pieces she always crushed. And in Death becomes her like
there's that scene where she first like kind of realizes
that he's moved on and she's old, right right. I'm like,
just like the way she was tearing it up and
belting to God like, but the whole thing was so stupid.
I was like, is this what made me want to
do comedy in the first place. I think kinda you

(28:16):
know what I mean, like that sort of stupid gay
over the top, very knowing, you know what I mean,
right on the nose, but like deliciously so. But it
hits the same nerve as like a gentleman RONI like,
there's something gay men go crazy for that, you know
what I mean? And she was totally totally does that
twenty century Fox mambo? That's also yeah, twentyth century Fox

(28:39):
mom bo. Yep, I remember the whole thing. But then
Smash was also so dumb. Sometimes when they liven uh
sing cheers, I'll drink to that in Times Square, I
do Like it was like the two characters like hated
each other, hated and they were like, well, I guess
we're just out in New York tonight. And then they
went and said, cheers, drink to that by Rihanna.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Because this show Let's We Forget was airing at the
same time as Glee, and so like they were like
they were trying.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
It was all over the place. I'm sure in the
rains where they're like, what the fuck do we do? Yeah?
What are we do? We just do that?

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Can we just try the Glee thing and see if
that works, even even though it makes no fucking sound
like sing just like a pop cover.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Can you imagine getting the scripts and like they're really
working hard on like we're building our dynamic. It's really tense.
We both want this job. And they flipped the page
and it's like, oh, in this scene we get rum
drunk in Times Square and it and we are singing
Rihanna cheers drink to that, like like, okay, let's just try.
I mean, that's network, that is Network TV. Baby, I

(29:39):
love it from a different era and I got it blest,
bring it back, bring it back. But I but I
went to go see it with Gina Gershan. Yes we
got We had a long, lovely night together. And also
there at the we got to go see high back
stage jangs On Soon and Jen Harris. This is the
weekend before their last girl's date before this is tonight

(29:59):
to it's the person in the mirror. They were like,
Camille is amazing, Michael Uri is amazing, Like it's a great,
I can't wait to see this new cast. But it's
just so fun, Like Jinx and Meghan go way back,
and Megan saw Gina when she did cabaret and in
the early in the early odd had you met Meghan
hilld before? Oh? That was my first time and I

(30:21):
really fan girld heard. I was like, well yeah, and
I caught myself.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I wanted to be like, I want to be like
little gay, little gay boy yep, like going on Broadway
dot Com every day, like that was when I first
found out about you, or like I really had to
contain myself and I wanted to be like you're the
reason why, Like I started researching like Carnegie Mellon when
I thought like that was like a pathway and obviously
I'm like it all worked out.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
I would not have done well in a musical theater
program story, but I'm like, but she went like she
like her, she opened up the door to all these
things for me, and she's just so fucking good and great,
just chill, good vibe. I could tell good vibes. She
WoT like she like brought us out stage. George was like,
I'll be your cover, like you guys are in past,

(31:03):
You're a fucking legend. I feel like if I could
have wrapped the opportunity to like be myself now and
visit my little gay self as a ghost. What I
would just say from the corner of a room is
Megan Hilty, And I know that little gamy would be
what who said that? Who said that? How do you
know I'm gay? How do you know I would know

(31:24):
that name? That would be me? Just like Megan Hilty. Yes,
I know it's me from the future, she slays, even
in twenty twenty five. Don't worry.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
There should be a gay Discovery satellite. Wow, yeah, there should,
do you know what I mean? Because you know the
Discovery satellite is like it's just like there's a vinyl
on it as a golden vinyl on it, and there's
all these different things from human culture from like the
like sent it up in the seven.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Oh yeah, we got to do that. We have to
do that for gay culture. All right, That'll be the
next That'll be the next thing we do. Because now
the Cultural Awards are out, we have a little bit
more free time. And you have reminded the group, the
producers and the editors of Lost Culturistas, the award winning
podcast on iHeartRadio, Quick Click Claim and Big Many Players.
We are approaching five hundred. We are approaching our five

(32:11):
hundred episode. You guys, I believe this is like four
eighty five. It really doesn't feel right, but I have
to tell you, remember, we absolutely blew past the four hundredth.
We didn't do our four hundredth until four hundred and forty.
And again we don't take breaks, no, and we just
did a one week break, which honestly felt good. So

(32:34):
it's great. But here's the thing. It's like, when we
do episodes like this, I do kind of feel like
we're on a break totally, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
And just just to let everybody know, none are going
to just be sort of like orbiting around each other,
not necessarily in the same place all the time. So
it will be more just just culture catchups, which.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
We're gonna back blog some guest episodes in September. Yes
that's right, you know, but those will be evergreen by design.
We're not gonna be any top all stuff on those.
But can I have it?

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Can I maybe pitch something for the five hundred what's
what's your the vein of like gay Satellite, the five
hundred Things, the five hundred Things.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Lost Culture is this five hundred Things? It could be
really good. It will be Banana is on there. Banana
banana might be huge. Banana is top ten? Can I
start af FYC for one of the things. Of course
it's yours with Denna bush Haegger today. Of course it's
your podcast. It's actually really culture number nine. Of course,
it's your podcast Apple Cinnamon Muffin about it?

Speaker 2 (33:39):
No, I never I never mind it. I always say, yes,
what do you mean you don't mind it?

Speaker 1 (33:45):
I'm just saying if I have not I can't say
that I've like pursued it very much in my life,
But anytime it's in front of me, I go, oh
my god, I love apple cinnamon muffin. Do you know
what I just realized in you saying, of course it's
your podcast. I can kind of use this for anything. Huh.
So what I'm going to use it for in this
moment is I need my New York and LA readers,

(34:07):
Katie's publicized finalists and Kyle's, which, by the way, congratulations
Kyle's you remain congratulating community, really wonderful messages. I want
to know where in where I can find an apple
cinnamon muffin, and I want to know if you have favorites.
I want to know where they consistently and reliably make
apple cinnamon muffins. Not an apple muffin. Notice, not a

(34:29):
cinnamon muffin. You could make it up on your own.
Don't do this, I'm because you know what you're doing
being a bitch.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
No, because you make the foods that you love, such
as buffalo chicken dip.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Girls, let me get my bag. What is that? I
need my refer because my girlfriend should be smoking? All right,
let's get the get the thing. Do you have anything
else say about death becomes Her? Because yeah, two words
yet Michelle Williams. Michelle Williams that voice that look I

(35:03):
just went that that is amused in every way? Do
you know what I mean? Did you hear about the rumor?
What's the rumor? The rumor is I took one hit
and I'm being aspiratorial. The rumor is Act three is
definitely rock and Destiny's Child is coming. That that last
part feels too good to be true? But why would

(35:25):
it be too good to be true? You know what
I mean? Because it's like, what what else not to say?
That Kelly and Michelle aren't booked and busy as we're
literally talking about Michelle, I'm sure there will be Kelly
and Michelle features on Act three. You're saying the rumor
is that they're the whole album, non come on tour
with her. That's great. Sorry, I was not specific idea

(35:45):
that I think three is a rock album. Yes, perchance
the girls are featured on it. Yes, but that the
Act three tour it's gonna be all three of them
what I had heard. And mind you, we hear so
many things about half end up being true, half end
up not. Like the sphere of it all was not
the visuals. The visuals I mean kind of came, kind
of didn't. Also, there was that crazy thing about them

(36:07):
being stolen from the car. That is true. That's crazy, bitch,
that is the truth. I still don't I still haven't.
We haven't talked about that. That's like the Mona Lisa
being stolen. You don't take that. That's actually really Culture
number ninety. That's like the Mott you don't take that.
By the way, we should just pause here and say,
I know we're going to get to the Culture Awards later.

(36:29):
But Mary m Cosby came to it essentially came to
a party that we threw and a role and we
met her and this is what she said. Do you
remember what she said? All I remember is vaguely her saying,
who are you guys? This is what it was. We
came around the corner Mary Cosby, I turned the ball

(36:49):
and I was like, the look that Mary Cosby pulled afar.
So she's in a red, big cloaked down yeah, and
with a red bag and a red gloves. And she
turned to us and she said, I had the most
amazing time. And we said it Mary, thank you for
being here. You elevated the whole thing. And she goes.
My husband said you better know who they are and

(37:11):
she goes and I do know Matt and Bowen and
I was like, you are. She was like, we need
to get a picture, and so I think we should
just post that picture too. There's gonna be a lot
of things posted online that needs its place. That's how
I knew, lets said Mary Cosby.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, the fact that we I was. She enjoyed her
time there, so you a huge badge of ye well
quickly before death comes her.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah, We've been very much a Broadway episode and there's
so much to get to. Warren Yang he's the one
who does the tumble down the stairs, Yes, and spoiler. Okay,
well that's a spoiler. That's a spoiler.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
But it it's been it's been many months. Please go
see it. I did not ruin anything, trust me. Michelle
ate them up. The like riff she's doing at the
top of her belt.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
I love it, absurd and she I love that. She
kind of comes in sort of laughing the whole time.
She's like, I'm having fun doing this. She stands, delivers
absolutely belt these songs like you've never heard, and then
leaves being like I kill this. She had exit applause
every time our audience uphold we had a respectful audience. See,

(38:31):
That's what I'm saying is it's like they showed up.
And also Death Becomes Her is quite loud, so it's
like you can't always hear everything going on. If it's
a play, that's the thing. It was a play, and
it was a play where you really needed to listen.
With most plays, you really gotta engage. You can't be
coming to the theater like cracking, popping, coughing, like chewing, gnawing, ripping.

(38:55):
There was a lot of dialing where we're browbeating a lot.
But it's just it's unside. But it's crazy. Does this
make us like the old faggots in the chair And
basically basically no, because they were insulted. No, they're actually
the problem. No, you're right. If Staler and Waldorf were
still going to the theater today, their phones would be ringing,
they'd be canceled. That's not what I said. To speak

(39:19):
more in things that have happened on stages. Have you
seen the clips of Cynthia giving what looked to be
the performance of a lifetime in Jesus Christ Superstar? Yeah,
I mean it looks sacred, it looks religious. Remember when
she was on and I was like, wow, So you've
played Aretha, you've played Harriet Tubman, you've played Healtha, but
you've played Seally. Now she's played Jesus Christ. You can't.

(39:41):
She can't play a normal woman unlimited whoa. I hadn't
even thought of that alphabet. Oh, oh my god, life
imitates aret, life imitates art. Yet again. I saw Josh
Sharp today. Oh my god, have you talked about it
yet on the pod? Not? Really, I guess I guess

(40:02):
I was waiting for you. I'm so proud of Josh.
He's just he's so great and Honestly, I'm sitting there
watching the show and the way like it was just unraveling.
It just it's it's one of those it's like it
gets better every second because you realize what the no
pun intended purpose of the slides are. And you know,

(40:22):
he goes through two thousand slides in the show and
it is like perfectly exactly on it and ends up telling,
you know, a really beautiful story and I just love
him so lot, so much. It's just life affirming. Literally,
it's a life affirming show and hilarious. Sam Pinkleton, Yeah,
I heard of want a Tony, Want a Tony not guy,

(40:45):
and uh yeah, I mean we wouldn't want We don't
want to give it anyway. It's like you can't really
give it, like you gotta go, you know what, guys.
Sounds like you're hitting the block. Sounds like you guys
have shows to go see and that's good. Yeah, that's
a good thing. Today ticks And you know what, I'm
being really earnest when I say that. Oh yeah, and
a lot of times on this podcast when we say

(41:06):
today ticks, people behind the curtain, it's an.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Ad, it's a nan and we're getting paid for it
in some way, in a way that we don't always see,
you know what.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
We know that someone is making someone is making money somewhere.
That's all that matters. But yeah, no, get on, get
on today, ticks. And I wonder if today is on today, ticks,
it is on today? It is. It is definitely to
and use code whatever the code is, just put it
just might be ding dong. Use cod ding dung, or
it's culturistas or just do monkeys at a typewriter until

(41:37):
you get it the way we were laughing in the theater,
not just Broadway varietl but the cinema varietal.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
When movies you your favorite, actual theater is always my favorite.
Theater is always your favorite. And I and I said
that to Celestium at Wicked in the West End. I said,
theater's my favorite medium and they're like, well yeah. I
was saying this to them as a player and they
were like, well, yeah, I mean it's the fact that
you're sharing space with them makes it the most immediate thing.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
That's it to me. It's like this number three film, okay,
number two theater theatrical r E, Yeah, theater ri E.
And then number one, number one of course, haunted house,
escape room that is interesting? Is it interesting? Or is
it not? If it's not, that's okay too. I don't

(42:28):
say it because it's interesting. I just say it because
I like to run around and be chased? Are you
I want the boys trying to come and get try
to come and get you? You don't, I guess you do,
but you remember that what you remember the one went
to the Poconos. But that's interesting though, Like you want
to run around and be chased, but like, don't you
feel don't you get that same sensation of running, like

(42:50):
running around and being chased while you're watching a horror film,
Like it's the same. I can't religate this with you.
I would rather do a haunted house than a scary
movie because in aunted house things make sense. It's like, Okay,
that is flying out of that door. Okay, that beast
is coming at me with that knife. In a film,
you can edit it to make it crazy, but it

(43:12):
gives you that same thrill of like, oh my god,
like I'm terrified. I have to just go along for
the ride, I suppose, which is what you do in
every haunted house. Honestly, if we were to actually unpack
this I want to know. I want to know too.
Should I reach this subject within my therapist? Yes, and

(43:34):
be like, Hi, every time I sit down for like
a scary movie or even a suspensb movie, I have
dread what is this that something happened to me at
the theater? Right? Well? Right, well, I'm saying like there's
something about like I'm learning a lot about my the
reasons for my anxiety. Really, yes, I feel like I

(43:56):
share them with you the other night, Like things I'm
really breaking open, mercury is coming out of retro. It
was a rhetorical really really, I think you figuring this
out will unlock so many other doors treasures. I'm told,
all right, Stacey, I'm coming back to therapy on Friday. Babe.

(44:17):
She doesn't listen to this. Actually, my therapist did tell me.
She's like, I purposefully if I see you in something,
I turn it off right right, No, that's I was like,
well that sucks. You can't like see some cool stuff.
That's fair though, right, I guess. So. I had remember
that period of time, like a couple of years ago,
where I had two ye therabis. Yes, one of them
was like, I'm a fan of what you do. And

(44:39):
the other one was like, I turn off everything I
see you in and I make a point if you
say you're going to be in it and I don't
watch it, and I was like, I have to stay
with you. I must. That's like that. It's like that
riddle of you run into a town where there's only
one barber shop and there's two. This riddle you need

(45:01):
a haircut for some reason.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
In this rule is you dressed, need a haircut, and
you go into a barber shop and there's two barbers.
Oh my god, this is my n One of them
has an amazing haircut and one of them has an
awful haircut.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Which one do you go to? Is there a right answer? Yes,
if you want to. If you want a good haircut,
which barber do you pick? Okay? In this world this
is I if someone has a good haircut and they're
like i'll cut your hair, well, and someone has a
bad haircut and they're like, i'll cut your hair To

(45:34):
be honest with you, I would go with the person
with the bad haircut. That makes sense because they got
the haircut from the person with the good haircut. I
supposed to have like known that. That's like part of
the reasoning. I'm sorry I maybe didn't set it up
corrected because it's like, because I think you said it
was a riddle. It's a riddle. You think that's a riddle.

(45:56):
Fiddled me the fiddle me this. No, that's a riddle
that doesn't have enigma wrapped in a riddle in cash.
Fucking erica. Fucking erica. Wait, what were we talking about earlier?
We were talking therapist. It's like you had chose the therapist.
You picked the therapist who it doesn't see you and stuff.
So you're like it was like the barber with the
bad haircut, like the one who is understands what she

(46:20):
does on a more deeper level, honestly, just on a
more deeper It was weird. It was like I was like, well,
from the day, hasn't me fly in Back in the day.
My therapist was like, we were dealing with stuff around
the shooting of Fire Island, and I was like, I

(46:40):
think I want you to watch the movie because it's
relevant to the issues that I did the same with
my therapist. I gave them homework and she was like,
I watched it, I enjoyed it, and I was like okay,
And then we talked about it, like as it related
to the coming shooting the movie. So I think my
therapist is the same. I don't. I think he does not.
Really you have a gay man, and so it makes

(47:03):
it even weirder, I guess.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
But like I but the only time I've ever told
him to watch something that I've don't inspire around, I
was like, I was like, this is going to explain
a lot.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, I think it was really important. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
yes agree. Also because like I think probably a lot
of us were talking about each other, bir we No.
I think we were just like like this movie is
like something, this is our first time doing this like this, Yeah,
this is kind of about us. Yeah, anyway, we give

(47:30):
it that lighter Okay, so we I have one thing
I wanted to say as we move into as because
the reason we even started talking about this is because
I was bringing up that we saw a movie which
is Naked Gun. You have to go see this, everybody.
Oh god, it's so good. It's so fucking stupid. I
need to see it three more times because it really

(47:53):
is that kind of movie where like the comedy comes
at you from every which angle and you're just like Okay,
I I need to process that joke in about like
two weeks because I need to focus on this other
joke that's coming up. Do you know what I mean?
There was there was like it was you really it
was blink and you miss it in terms of just
how many jokes there were. And I love Liam Neeson.

(48:17):
I have to say I was kind of Liam Neeson
agnostic before this because I'm not like a taken girl,
right right. All respect to Maggie Grace always and she
will always be Shannon and lost. But I make the
leap to the Maggie Grace vehicle taken just because again,
like didn't seem like a movie. I was going to
be like bit for be, pound for pound. I enjoy this,

(48:39):
this pace of film, and Liam kind of to me
is wrapped up in the taken of it all. So
to see him in this, he's got a fan for life. Now.
I love that.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
I love Pam. I love Pam so much. I love
the guy who played the villain. Oh we were saying,
his line reads were everything. There is a run about
the Black Eyed Peas in this, which was really really
really one for the books.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
It's really good. And then furgolicious comes in as a
drop at once the movie. Knew something, Akiva Cheffer, you
know something. You know something about filmmaking. You know something
the other girls don't, which is that you if you
can do the fur delicious drop, you do do the
furglicious drop. It is stupid comedy. It is really see. Yeah,

(49:24):
the original we need to we need to move in
this direction. Yes, absolutely, the original movie. I rewatched just
in the lead up to this new one, and I
was just like the visual and the first in the
original trilogy and didn't watched it and it was like,
I mean a lot of this just still holds up. Yeah,
like this kind of humor. It's just like, I mean,
still never go out of style. Some of it is
like okay, like that's there's a slight patina on that,

(49:44):
but everything else it's like hilarious. Site first one I
had a lot more psyche ads.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah, and just for some reason, like I love that
they kept in this updated version, like you know, just
these two people like running away for everybody, like crashing
into things all the time. So a little bit different
on seventies cameras or eighties cameras.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
I mean, yeah, like because yeah, I will say, because
now we know, like how that's a little bit more
intends to tell like I don't know how to how
this is what I think it is. Comedy has for
a while now actually asked a lot of the audience yes,
And I think watching something done that is just literally

(50:28):
so much time had to be put into this, but
it doesn't feel like it like every hard joke is
what matters and what's important. And I love the sketch
way that the scenes are all set up. Obviously, maybe
miss Austin Powers we were even talking about could there
be another Austin Powers now after this? But that is

(50:49):
I think the difference is It's like even when I
saw Superman, I was like, yeah, in this superhero movie,
like one of the gags is Lois puts sugar in
her coffee for like approximately fifteen seconds and then just
drinks the coffee like it's normal, and it's just it's
just a joke in the movie. And I'm like, hmm.

(51:12):
Even superhero movies took themselves so fucking seriously there for
a while, so to see that gag happen, I was like, huh.
And then with Naked Gun, it's all just so stupid,
and I was like, well, I having a bigger reaction
than I've had in a long time. And that's not
to say that comedy can't be meaningful or shouldn't be meaningful,
or isn't meaningful in this new way, I'm like exalting,

(51:36):
but it is really nice to just drop your shoulders,
not take anything too fucking seriously and just rip one.
Because I don't know what you were thinking in the
theater yesterday or two days ago. I was just like,
this feeling of laughing in a theater feels so foreign, yeah,
and also so good, so good. But I'm like, it's

(51:56):
been way too long since I've done dred percent. There
you still reliably be able to go to the movie
theaters and like laugh at something like Bridesmaids. Yes, yes,
you know what I mean, Like those are formative memories.
This and honestly, this is this is I think a
real thing. Like Horrors continued to do fine at the
box office, but comedies not actually drives away a whole

(52:19):
kind of person that goes to the movies. When the
only thing you can really reliably go to the movies
for is like shock or Wonder. It's like a lot
of people aren't interested in that. A lot of people
are interested in a different kind of reaction and going
to the movies. And I get that, like, you know,
because of streaming, you can it's easier to provide that

(52:39):
sort of comfort viewing, or it's more acceptable to get
away with it going straight to people's homes. But we're
really missing out on putting hard comedies in theaters because
those are some of the most formative experiences of my
life my life, and they we don't have that. And
I'm sorry, but that type of human that would enjoy
that is still far looking out there and there's still

(53:01):
that age and there's still you know, I get that
the world has changed, but like, I just don't believe
that there's no desire for people to go see good
comedy at the theaters. I just don't, because, as you're saying,
it's it's like that does drive away whole kind of
people who goes to the movies. And so the way
that we you and I and a whole generation of
people defines comedies now is that like, okay, we still

(53:23):
we're still attached to this thing of going to the
theater and laughing with everybody. It's just a different sensation.
You're just aware of the people around you anyway, obviously,
But I'm just saying like it then defines what comedy
is for a generation of people growing up who all
they think comedy is like some person on TikTok yeah,
doing a very like refracted kind of memey thing, right,

(53:46):
which it is. But it's just like, that's not all
of comedy. It's not direct hard comedy exactly. It is
it is. It is in reference to something where there's
almost no like exactly or or this generation things comedy
is like someone a stand up comedian quote unquote going
up on a mic and just saying whatever slurs they
want to kill Tony. It's like, that's not comedy either,

(54:08):
but they think that's comedy. And it's like, you mean,
movies like this that reach every audience, and that is
what the example should be. This is not gonna be
to everyone's taste. But what I am saying is you
can be any kind of person and think this movie
is fun. Yes, you know what I mean, and that's
you might not love it like I even I'm in
a group thread where a couple of people were like,

(54:30):
I thought the movie actually could have been funny and
everything landed. No, it doesn't happen. But there's almost about
that too, is it's like, okay, that bit went by,
and maybe it didn't work for me as what much
as the last ever. But the fact is, like your
batting average can be a little bit lower when you're
taking a lot of swings, you know what I mean.
This movie is constantly jam packed with the goal of

(54:54):
every single fucking thing being funny. So yeah, if it's
batting averages like a seven sixty instead of a nine
to ninety, that's pretty fucking good either way. It's crazy, yeah,
because there's some quote unquote comedy out here which are
taking no swings of comedy. And I'm sorry, but when
you when everything is comedy, you do dilute things out

(55:15):
of that, Like I don't know, moratorium on what is comedy?
And I think everyone.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
But I think you and I just figured it out
for real the way we.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
For a second there were number three on the comedy
podcast list. Behind we said eat it, and Rogan eat it,
Alex Cooper eat it, eat it. We went right below
her right away. Of course, that's okay. We respect all
these girls. No, we just think, for a second, we had,

(55:47):
we had the number three spot, and I think we
just creak'd why absolutely right now we are wearing all white.
We are in an all white room, and we're like
a little angels. And that's how I want you guys
to think of us whenever we don't have a visual aid,
Just like two little angels in like a white room.

(56:09):
Like it's like it's heaven or something, huh, just talking
to each other, floating around like little heads.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
And we're wearing white button downs with like a Chiffon's.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
With the safon chaffon pant. Speaking of music and pants,
Oh you know who's wearing the pants? In terms of
my Spotify most streamed lately? Interesting expression. Sometimes I really
segues in me go great, and then other times it
goes like that, I love it. Who's wearing the pants?

(56:46):
Have you been streaming the Subway? Absolutely so good.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
I just I love that it is so different from
what like the version of song she's been performing at
the concerts, because I feel like it's more like acoustic
and like not quite as lush and like, I don't know,
I feel like when she was doing it live only
at her concert before she released it and recorded it
like recording released it, it just felt like a different song,
and this just feels like it's gives it a whole

(57:10):
new life.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Yeah. I mean, my confession is I actually wasn't very
familiar with the live version because I just really wanted
to at the time. I remember being like, I really
want to wait because I'm sure that this is coming soon. Yeah,
and then it just kind of never came, so I
didn't really have like much of a vocabulary for it.
So I'm kind of experiencing it as an Oh, that's correct,
and that's a great thing. Of course. I had listened
to it like when it came out at first, and

(57:33):
then a couple of times when she was coming on
like it hasn't been in rotation. I fucking loved that
good and just how grand it is and how long
it is. I just love that she feels like she
can get away with something like this because she can.
She doesn't feel emboldened. I mean, she doesn't feel encumbered

(57:54):
by any expectation about like what a pop song is.
I think because like everything she's done has been on
her own terms. Anyway. I love that like casual has
like this little sister song. I do think Ultimately it
is the best song on I think Casual is the
best song. I mean when you see her do a

(58:14):
live and you feel that song live, and it is
the song that made me first really turn my head
to her. There's just something so special about it. But
are you kidding me? Like that whole fucking thing anyway, Yeah,
I mean this feels like that song. I need to
give it. The music video another I love, but just
the shot of her of like those butterflies like flying

(58:35):
around her as it pans up, like she's a great actor.
I'm just like, this is an incredible visual, just period.
I think it's I think that the Subway video and
the Manchild video both were feats in pop girly music
video history, recent history. I love the man Child video.
I love that every single shot is different. I love that,

(58:57):
like literally, I love this choice with the hair in
the subway, Like I she serrated it. She serrated it,
and these girls are serrating. I think we have to
we all have to serraate. We better. Oh it's not
the butterflies, Sorry, it's the garbage when she's yeah in
the intersection.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Fuck, I'm just got that. That's that's amazing. Yeah, start
being dragged by the car. H Like, are you kidding me?
You can do that in a music video. I'm so
happy that they're being intentional about music videos.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
I know you know what I mean, because that's another
thing that's gone the way of the DODO is sort
of the music video. Like you know, you're right, it's
only the girls. The girls so like Rianna is always
really really good about But I was saying that, I like,
were you gonna say it's always the girls? I'm sorry, Yes,
I agree with any interrupted. No, you didn't at all.
Are you saying that it's the girls who like have
the studio backing, because it's just like somebod these girls

(59:47):
just don't have the money. The ones that have, like
the big guns, I think that can crank out these videos.
And then it's the girls who like don't get the
money from the label. Yeah. But you know what though,
like I said, studios, I'm late. You don't need that
much money to do something like cute and interesting, and
I just don't think you do. Like I think you
just picked something that's like you're being so Michelle visage

(01:00:08):
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
You don't need I'm telling them, I'm refusing to give
them a budget. Girls, I'm not giving you a budget. No,
make your own videos. I'm not giving you a budget.
You're not getting a budget of the season. I also
speaking of Dan Nigro his other song that's Coden Gray's spot.
I am supporting this young girl, Codin Gray, I am

(01:00:33):
supporting I think we need to really be listening to
this one bright Star. I'm only streaming this. That's so cute.
I love my god, I am very I love it.
I love that we I love that. Like listen, there's
a singer like that. Yeah, I mean the belt at

(01:00:53):
the end of the bridge. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
And then he puts together a cute little video too,
where the boy friend leaves him. Sorry, no, he he
gets to he gets to put together a saucy little
video where he's got like his like little gay love interest.
Then there's like a you know, an errant single tear
at the end when they know it's not working, they
break up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
We love it, punching the guy, little gay singer, little
gay singers everywhere Conan's wanted to watch. Have you listened
to the demio? What a cool fast and it's like
giving it home. It's like locked and Loaded for the
gay guys. Is it as the music video out? I'm

(01:01:37):
sure no, but she's been doing a lot of like
visual she's sort of giving this describe to everyone what
I'm doing just.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Walking through a claw a lot of Yeah. Man, that's
just kind of posing seductively. I look like Jins from Pokemon.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Yes, yes, and like you just give them a little
reference gol fast this she Demi. I want a big
Demi moment. Cool for the Summer was one of the
great peaks of my life. It continues to reappear in

(01:02:12):
beautiful ways. Cool with summer. Should we just like, really,
we're going to Petetown? Should we make Cool for the
Summer a big thing in Peetown? Yes, just like whenever
we get ready. It's always cool for the summer. We
can't leave any place without playing it as we leave.

(01:02:34):
This is how I feel about apple cinnamon muffin, which
I was gonna say, is your beef stew? How'd you
feel huh? How'd you feel? Good? Yeah, I'm but Cool
for the Summer is like apple cinnamon muffin. I will
never mind it. Yep, you're edged? How about that? You

(01:03:04):
thought we were actually gonna play it. No, it was
you're edged you're not getting it. See, and this is
what we've been saying for a really long time. Our
grandparents will have somewhere over the rambow, our grandchildren will
have Cool for the Summer, and we have been saying this.
It is number one on the Great Global Song Book.

(01:03:26):
I don't think you're hearing me. I really don't think
you're hearing me correctly. The Summer the Summer is number
one on the Great Not American Grbal never Americans. So
this song stands tall with other winners of our lists,

(01:03:48):
the Iconic four hundred. The number one person of the
list is Mariah Carey. The Top two hundred moments in culture,
The number one moment in culture was adel Do you Understand?
Is the song equivalent of to those to those oh
my god, I still don't think they get it is
the sick part. You will get it even more. There

(01:04:10):
are a lot of people that are just like you know,
like Demila Letto, fast comes out and they don't remember
what a Demi era can give. And that's the heart
this song is going to get. Chokes me up. It
chokes me up. Cool for the Summer. You will understand
even more.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
When we release the five hundred Objects of Culture, Yeah,
you will, it will be the equivalent to the number
one of that. Let's just say demil Leo's top in
that music video is on it. Okay, the top that
she wore in that music video is on the list
of five hundred things of culture.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Should we drink flower Boy? Yes? Okay? So happy birthday,
Kyle Cook, Happy birthday. Kyle is birthagey actually is, mister Butula,
we are so we're gonna have so did Coyle send
you this? Yes? I'm sorry, Kyle. You're in the doghouse
with me because Kyle Cook, I was supposed to get
some flower Boy and you know I'm a little stoner. Amanda, mister, mister,

(01:05:12):
can I say? Can I say something? What I texted
Amanda Batula happy birthday and I did not get a response.
I think she's like that cool. Wait, what do you
mean she loves you? She was She's gonna text by
epy birthday? No she No. I'm saying she doesn't have to.
And I'm saying the Kyle that these people, the Kyle
and Amanda, while we love them, maybe and maybe it's

(01:05:34):
not meant to be that we're friends with them, you
know what I mean, as much as we would like to,
maybe it's not. Maybe they're not ready for me. Do
you think do you think that our our expectations were
too high? I thought we made a real connection with it.
We thought we made a real connection with you guys.
And we're sitting here, we're drinking flower Boy, and we're
just kind of desponding.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
We just kind of we just missed you, guys, So
we we love you. We're gonna drink flower Wed. Happy birthday, Kyle,
Cook Cook Watch what happens Like? They asked us if
we'd rather fuck you or who was the other?

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Oh? Jesse, Jesse, And I said you for so many reasons,
Yeah no, but your type is Jesse though, And even
on the show, I believe that you said your type
was Oh no, so it was it wasn't Kyle and Jesse.
It was who was it? It was like who would
you rather bang? Ky? But it was Kyle's what was
just someone else? And Jesse was just someone else? So
clearly you ran away with this one. Kyle. Anyway, cheers, cheers,

(01:06:27):
Your skin looks better than ours. I literally said to him.
I was like, I turned to him at one point,
I think, oh, is this grape?

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Did you give one?

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Is that orange? I we can trade? I like the grape.
Point I aleast try the sip. Yeah, you don't like
the green, Well, this is an ad for flower Boy.
I'll take the grape to think. How heart broken we
just work? I know, I like the grape. Do you
like the orange? I want the orange? Okay, you like
the grape. Yes, there's something about grape, the kid grape juice,
feeling that like I gotta tell you something. This is

(01:06:59):
actually really fucking good. And I was drinking lover Boy
when I when I was just where was that? I
guess it was a Memorial Day weekend fourth of July
and lover Boy was slapping. Yeah. I was drinking flower
Boy during fourth of July as well. Or you were
doing lover I was doing flower you were you were
on your flower I was on my lover Okay, should

(01:07:24):
we finally talk about culture rewards part? Do we have
other things?

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
So this is I just want to just because I
think it's funny. This is the rest of the stuff
that I wrote down as potential topics. And I almost
never do this, you guys, but this time I was like, yeah,
you know, like, let's have a proper culture catchup and
talk about all the things. Can you imagine if we
commented on Katie Perry and Justin Trudeau's day? I was like,
I would what is there even to be said? Two

(01:07:50):
people connected? Okay, can't people just fall in love? Yeah?
Leave them alone? Can't people just have a fairy tale
romance anymore? Leave them alone? Me? And just like that ended. Yeah, Yeah,
it's sad. I think that we will always have Sex

(01:08:12):
and the City and Carrie Bradshaw and watching Sarah Jessica's
real about did you watch this so moving? I was
just like, wow, that's that's one of the best characters
in TV. Honestly, Here's what I'll remember about it, just
like that, how hard Sarah Jessica Parker tore, especially in

(01:08:33):
that first season. Ye, when she ran in and she
discovered big in that first episode, I'll remember I remember
that gagged me. Yep, that they did that so respect
on the show's name. For that. I will remember ch Diaz,
I will remember Miranda as lesbian in this time capsule.
You will you will not only remember, you will cherish it.

(01:08:54):
And I will remember Sema. Yeah, I will remember her,
I will remember her. LTW, I wont, but I will
remember Sama, I'll remember. Yeah, remember Kristin Davis. There a

(01:09:16):
lot of work opposite animals. Yeah yeah, yeah, well because
remember we remember remember when we were like positing, like Okay,
if you watch Kristin Davis and LTW scene like it's
the Muppets, it's actually really good. But then that just
wasn't the same show as the other characters. Can I say, like,

(01:09:39):
we have not talked enough about Charlotte and then just
like that as a culture No, I think sometimes it's hard. Well,
but there's such a reality distortion around Charlotte and in
just like that specifically where like you have you have
LTW like forgetting that dad died or having two separate

(01:10:02):
fathers who passed away or just whatever the whole dad.
Then my god, then remember in season one, like I
took a screen grab of like LG like holding a
phone in the wrong way I was speaking of it.
Then there's just like a bunch of there's just something busiz.
I will just I just will just come out and
say there's something bizarre, and any of the story ends
involving her child, her children. Yeah, just something I was like,

(01:10:27):
I don't know what's going on. So it happened in
another dimension. This is what I'm saying, It's in another demention.
This is this is the thing with the lt when
with LTW and sometimes when LGW is with Charlotte. And
this is my opinion. And listen, I'm on the record
as saying lots of things about this show, but this
is what I want to leave with. The number one

(01:10:50):
best thing that this show could have done. When it
was revealed that LTW had said her father died twice,
the number one one thing they should have done absolutely immediately,
and I'm disappointed that they didn't, because these are not
the third griders that I remember. The third graders that
I remember would have made Charlotte wake up in the

(01:11:12):
cold dark of night. She shoots up in bed. She goes,
oh my god. Harry says, what what's the matter. She goes,
I think I think Lisa Todd has been lying to me.
She said her father died two years ago, but she
just said he died again. Can't be right, right, Well,

(01:11:34):
I don't know. Why don't you just talk to her? Okay?
She wakes up in the morning. She actually goes over
lgw's house. She goes, hey, I just wanted to check
in because you said your father died twice. Lisa Todd
Wikesy goes, oh, did I excuse me a second, leaves
the room, comes back with a knife. It's like like
full LTW Psycho reveal. Kristin Davis goes and at this

(01:11:58):
point it's like she is it's an action film. She
does a dive roll because LTW is throwing the knife.
She gets a goune a buzuka. Fuck you, you can't expose me.
LTW reveals she's a psycho path. This if you better
not be eating on this mic, you're gonna give the
mist aphonio girl least a nightmare and a half. Cover

(01:12:19):
your mouth and I and you did get too high.
Full Psycho Path LTW reveal is the only way that
that show. And I'm sorry it could have kept going,
but I'm not seeing the third graders. I remember, should
we literally just have this episode be the culture ketchup

(01:12:40):
and then do another one that we put out, which
is the Culture Awards recap? Like no, literally, like do
it like right after this, like because I don't have
that much on here. We did a whole culture catchup.
We could in a couple of days do the lost Culture.
We're in an hour, seventeen minutes. Okay, yeah, let's let's
do Maybe should we do it next week? Should we
do what the culture recap? Because maybe we should do

(01:13:02):
that because it gets more people exactly. Okay, Okay, We're
not gonna do the Culture Awards recap this time. Hmm.
I guess you'll have to. I guess you'll have to
really watch it now. This is yes. All I have
left on my list is two things. I watched The
Hunting Wives on Netflix. Perfect. It's has the potent. I've

(01:13:28):
only watched one episode so far. It has the potential
to go full crazy town, and so I think I'm
gonna keep going. I think people are this is what
people are saying. I have not watched it. I will
get to it at some point. Malan Ackerman's character, it's
what's that my laundry? I'm sorry, Oh my god, that
beautiful song. It's really good. Malan Ackerman's character, I can

(01:13:51):
tell is gonna be some sort of fem fatale, really
sort of eating and showing the scenery, and you can
tell she fucks everybody and what's Brittany Snow giving. Brittany
Snow right now is giving. I'm a little bit nervous
to be here, and you can tell I have a
little bit of an anxiety problem. Then it's a little
bit like meep, you know what I mean. Like, but
but I think what's coming is going to be a

(01:14:14):
full opposite of meap situation. You guys know what meat means, right,
like mep. You know, imagine the face that Bowen and
I are making when we do this. She like, that's
you know what I mean, Like the least horny thing
in the world is to be meep. It's actually like
there's a there's like a one through ten scale, and
at a zero is meep, and at a ten is horny, right, meap.

(01:14:39):
So that's sort of like Britney Stow's vibe in the
first episode. But she's absolutely licking her chops at Malin Ackerman,
who's sort of this like sexy va voom, like so
they're gonna get together. I'm gonna get dressed in front
of you, like sorry, babe, like that kind of vibe.
And we've already seen Melan Ackerman teach Brittany Snow how
to drive and how to shoot a gun, so her

(01:15:01):
fingers are basically already inside her and I wow, wait
to see this pop off guy. And I think it's
really gonna pop off. I realized that's what it was about.
Oh yeah, it's like it's I think it's about to
be giving, like psycho sexual, lesbian cult crazy. That's at
least what the first episode is giving. Because Malan Ackerman
has like another female friend that you can tell is

(01:15:22):
like obsessed with her, and so she's like, I'm gonna
go hang out with Britney Snow and now I don't
see you later. And the other one is like, but wait,
I was supposed to go with you tonight, and she's like, whatever,
I'm gonna go hang with Brittany Snow. But Malan, Malan,
Malan Ackerman, stop stop stepping so uncool. I'm gonna go

(01:15:48):
hang out with Brittany Snow and drive and do donuts
in a parking lot in my truck, Malan. And they're there,
And where does the hunting and the wives come in?
Girl has yet to be seen. Where what are they?
They're all like they're like they're like it's more politics,
like Dylan Er not Dylan m is like he's like

(01:16:15):
a god in Texas who might be thin't gonna run
it for governor And like this is like his wife
is Malan Ackerman and her friends, so like we're the wives.
Brittany Snow is like, I'm you, but do you not
eat on that mic you're expecting I'm sorry, you're expecting
a flip Like Brittany Snow is going to be like

(01:16:36):
on that bit. I think Brittany Snow is going to
get to be quite frank with you. Her pussy eaten
by Malan Ackerman. And I think that's the thing that's shocking.
I think that that is going to unlock treasures undoad
treasures until it's the second time it's come up. So, yes,
treasure isn't told. I'm sure. I'm sure we've said titled

(01:16:58):
the past Treasure's sun Told, High Potential. Now I'm just
repeating a title without I don't think Treasures Untold has
been a title. I'm saying it. I think it sounds
like what which means it's a good idea. I feel
like it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Sounds so wonderfully non specific to any other time in
her life when we were recording this.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
I think maybe the word untold, I'm sure untold, and
the word treasure is lost culturistus Treasure's untold treasure, like
we really could untold. Okay, let's see. I don't think
so treasures. No, but there's another podcast called Treasures on Told. Well,

(01:17:43):
it's something to think about. What are title that is
going to be? I think treasure's untold? Maybe exclamation point?
How about that? I love that Treasure's untold? Treasures untold?
What else is on the list of the valley on Bravo?
I said, so dark? And this actually does lead into
my own so honey. That's great because I knew after
season two, episode one, after I started this season, I

(01:18:05):
was like, no, this is gonna be too much. Okay,
I have mine. I don't think so, honey. And this
is I don't think so honey. It's our segment on
the podcast where we take one minute to rail and
Morgan something in culture that's been really bad towards us,
its own community, and I think kind of this case,

(01:18:26):
it's both. I think it's bad for the world. Okay,
here we go. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think
so Many's time starts down. I don't think so honey,
Jax Taylor, Jax Taylor discourse Jax Taylor on television. It
isn't done. It's a rap, I know that, Like it's
pretty much already out there like that it is officially
a rap on the Jack Taylor of it all. But

(01:18:46):
my god, I think it's actually like just hurting our
spirits and souls to watch them in this world where
we have to really take stock of how we spend
every minute of our life because nothing is promised, Like
you can't spend it watching the Valley is Jax Taylor
is going to be the center of it. Like I
like a lot of those people. I enjoyed the show

(01:19:07):
the first season a lot, just like got so dark
with Jackson. He's really really really brutal towards his wife
and it's just sad because there's kids involved, and just
like yikes, and then elsewhere you look elsewhere and like
Jesse and Michelle just trying to ruin each other, Like
really it's just second but like Jesse is awful. It's

(01:19:30):
just the whole thing. Wolf. I can't with Jackson anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
The next one minute, No, there's just secondary I was
I was holding the jacks thing obviously, the Jacks thing
is as you are saying, much darker. But the Jesse
Michelle thing grated on me in such a crazy way.
It was like watching the two of them argue or
the way the way they were acting individually or together,
I was like, this.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Is it's justvision. It's like there's nothing, there's no caloric
and are value there. It only just makes you feel
like empty and bad. Like and also it's like it's
a shame because the first season, I don't know what
it is sometimes because it's like it might be something
with that group in particular, because like it feels like

(01:20:14):
nothing can be light. It's like vander rules had to
end the valley. I don't know how that continues. It's
just like we don't have fun together. Something about that
group of people. Something I'm gonna keep. I'm gonna like
excise Kristen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Doty the way like really like I really missed her
when she was none on my TV or like just
like gone from vander Pump.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Yeah, but like not like I don't know, there's just
something about it that's just like, oh, that's that's that
that vibration is bringing in. Yeah, it's other other other
like behavior like that other bad behavior. There's there's people
on the show that feel low vibration, yes, like and
Jack's the energy is so darkening. Oh, I'm just like,

(01:20:58):
And then there are people on the show that I
really like individually and like, you know, like we love
Sheena Sheet in this house. But also it's like when
when certain people are mixed together, but we also love
like Ari Automatics. I'm like, why, It's like we watched
the show and it's just like maybe this group of
people like is too triggered by each other because all

(01:21:20):
they know is this reality TV experience of like trying
to fuck each other up. So it's like, I'm not
saying they're not all individually like you know, in most
cases certainly not Jackx's, but like you know, should be
on television in some way. But I think just this
configuration is feeling like it's done. I agree, Yeah, I

(01:21:45):
just I really gave up a long time ago, and
I feel bad about it. Don't feel bad because you
chose you, Yes, do you have? I don't think so, honey,
I do well fabulous because I know everyone's charming at
the bit to hear this is bowing. I don't think
so honey, as time starts now, I don't think so, Honey, Email,
there have been no real meaningful advancements in you for many,

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many years. The language around you has gotten only worse.
For my last I'm not gonna like rattle off office speaking.
We're seeing the way that we as human beings have
learned to speak to each other through because of the
formal limitations of email. Is actually really scared about many seconds,

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like why do I have to type two full paragraphs
of like fluff before I get to the meat, to
the to the meet or the mirror or the bone
or whatever of why I'm communicating with you? Like other
forms of communication are so much more direct, so much faster,
there's an expectation of when someone responds to you. There's
none of that in email, and is lawless, and it
has not advanced, as I've said meaningfully. There was a

(01:22:56):
time when Google was trying to do Google Wave, the
answer to anyvating on the way emails should work, threads
and docks and all these things. It was a huge failure.
But email is the canker in the state, and that
is one minute okay, so I'm bad at it, and
then I can own that why do you think you're
bad because it is a bad medium. Okay, but when

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you can I ask about your thing that you said
about two paragraphs or semi paragraphs of fluff before you
get to the marrow or the meat of your email.
That's like a lot of initial emails, right like, especially
in our industry. But it's like, or you gotta get
right to the chase. I do you see me emailing?

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
And I was saying, why do I have to do
that in a way that is actually not something that
I do. I'm saying, like I'm using, I'm swapping myself
and as I would have softened the argument because acatory. Yeah,
like so many emails that I get m M are
like big chunks of you know, just like introductory lovely pleasantries,

(01:23:59):
which I and it is the thing that you have
to do.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
But we all feel like it's compulsory because that's that's
what the rules, the quote unquote rules of email are.
I'm sick of them. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah,
it's like like you're you're talking about the pageantry of
hi bowen, hope you're well, hope you're well, and that
everything is yep, yep, has been amazing, Miss Holiday. In

(01:24:24):
amidst all this, I hope you're not holding up. Okay,
amidst all this is so real looping following up adding
this person.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
There's just there's just bullshit sentences that float around in
our brains now because email is fucking dusty.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
So how would you prefer we act on email? Like
if I if I was to add someone to we
don't have to do dothing about email. There's no getting out,
there's no changing it. I'm just saying I prefer you
prefer text. And Matt's asking, Matt's acting the guy like
raised Dan to slap him. I just gesticulating scares me.

(01:25:04):
He scares me. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah?
Text is just so much more direct. There's an expectation
like within if I don't respond to you in twenty four hours,
then something's wrong. You know what I mean? Yeah? Okay.
If people can hide in the bushes of emails or
strengtabilizing these things differently, I feel like if I don't
get back to your text, it's like easier for me

(01:25:24):
to get away with that than it is for me
to not respond to your email. I feel like an
email I feel like an email is like an official correspondence.
It's like I sent you an email. There's like an intention.
I'm with you. I'm with you with text. Maybe this
is just the way I am about it, but it
feels a lot more casual. If I miss your text,
if I don't get back to you on your text,

(01:25:45):
a million other things could have happened. If I don't
get back to you on email, even more million things
could have happened. This is what I'm saying, Like, I
don't know why I'm separating these two. I kind of
see where you're going with this. Because text is more casual,
I guess more person a person direct, I would say,
I would say text is less casual, it's more emotional,
has a different emotional register for people as they communicate

(01:26:09):
through it. Because having someone's number is a different thing
than having someone's email. That's interesting, do you know what
I mean? So like if I have someone's if I
have this person's number, then it's like, oh, okay, this
is where this is where I'm separating from you in
the woods. I believe, okay, because for me, email is

(01:26:30):
professional and text is personal. So if you have my
phone number, I see I'm with and you reach out
to me and you text me, that to me does
not fall under professional. It's if you were to be
professional with me over text that that would be not inappropriate.
But like I'm not taking things over text as seriously
as I am over email. So maybe that's the separation.

(01:26:52):
Interesting because and I think where the separation is because
I'm with you the whole the whole way.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
I'm like, if you out to me over email with
an official kind of correspondence that I have to like
that wade through, that I have to wag through and
that is actionable for me in some way where I
have to like respond, I'm like, I'm just gonna let
this sit here because I've got like more of these
coming from people that I don't know from fuckingm you know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
What I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
And then like I like, I'm sure, like it's the
same for you, Like a lot of these official correspondences
if they do have to do with work in our jobs,
and like other.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
People mediate that for us. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
So that's why I'm like email is so like low
stakes in terms of feel like you communicate on email
in a way you never would No, no, no, generally generally, Yeah,
the world.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
The world, Yeah, acts on email like crazy, like crazy
fools like the rules of Eve to you and said,
hope you're well. You'd be like, where's the call? You'd
be hey where you say? Hey Robot, where's Stepford? Wives?
What did you do with my that's friend? What did
you do with him? And then you see me in

(01:28:05):
the corner? Please you rip off the duct tape? I go, oh,
that's an important thing. Ah, he went that way. Your
mouth hurts so bad, but you can't touch it because

(01:28:25):
you're still gagged from behind. Not gagged from behind. I
guess tied up. Being tied up is being gagged from behind.
It's actually really culture number fifty nine. Being tied up,
being gagged from behind kind of hot and horny. So listen,
we've both I don't think so, No, honeys. We've talked
about everything in culture. I think if we missed something.

(01:28:47):
Quite honestly, what I would say to you is fuck off,
because we really tried very hard today and you broke ass.
We broke ass. Okay, well, stay tuned for our recap episode.
Yeah for that, because the thing is, like, there was
actually too much pop culture to get to, and I
do think it's a good idea to encourage people to
still stream the show. I think so, I don't. I

(01:29:09):
think that's not it's not spoil the soup. Sposed to
soup next week. This is a reference to the winner
of the Matt Rogers Most Matt Rogers Coded Award and
a nominee for Record of the Year. And one thing
I will say is that Remy Wolf absolutely destroyed her performance.

(01:29:29):
And I'm sure that's so surprise. So talk about this
next week when the discourse has settled for now, just
discourse about everything else. Bye, Oh we don't we have
every episode? What the fuck? It's okay, it's okay. Why
did you forget? I'm sorry because you're high. And I
want you to know how many times I've had to

(01:29:50):
stop him from eating on the mic. No, no, don't,
I don't hear the end every episode of the song
so Delicious. They stay in the gym, just working on
the fitness. He's witness. I put them boys on and
they down the block just watched what I got.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
So delicious, ilicious, very delicious delicious.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
That's it's says, But it's amazing, it's so good. And
remember glamorous. Oh, I glamorous, I miss glamorous. I missed
that year two and seven. Well, did you know how
he used to be able to ride the Hollywood Rip
Ride Rocket in Universal Studios, Florida and play the song
grab Fly Flamorous Glamorous by Ergie. You can't do that anymore.

(01:30:47):
And also they're tearing it down. Have you thought about that? No?
I can't think about that. By last. Culturacis is the
production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players in the Heart
radio podeat, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen,
yet executive produced by Anna Hasnier and produced by Beck Ramos,
edited mixed by Doug Bami and Nikola Board and our

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music is by Henry Berski