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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Flame Flame.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
If you watch your coffee time the baby you know
the name Flame my bro also known as my Roe Flame.
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What's up tips?
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Yeah you know she raised shot towns on speaking to
the grown a second year. We're gonna laugh, cut him
and kick it in at the end. We leave it
with just a lift you spirits, you want to revisit
so your first second listen, young folks. So it's list
oh folks that we dig it good.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Hey, no this do what you do?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
No this do what you do? Can no do what
I do?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Hey, hey, this is Flaming Roe and welcome to this
week's episode of Laughing Learn. And I'm with my handsome
producer and my very special guest co host that will
be introduced to you to you all momentarily, we want
to thank you guys for joining us here laughing larn.
It has been a tumultuous week. We're gonna get to
what's happening, but let me tell you on my personal note.
I'm home from New York City. I went to New York.
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I did the Breakfast Club on Monday and Tuesday. I
had a pretty decent time. I had a really good time, actually,
and I was supposed to do Yonkers this weekend. I
want to apologize to all of them. Give my person
over it, baby. I want to apologize to my fans
for me not making it. There was some personal family
emergency and I had to come home. I so apologize,
and I think that the guy that should refund you
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guys all your money. I'm hoping he did. I spoke
with him and he said he would. But outside of that,
I had amazing time in New York. Coco was there
with me. The Breakfast Club was what it is always
was a good time, and I am home. My video
drops this Tuesday with Maci Gray called cop Killer. Y'all
gonna be excited to see that I killed the police officer,
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not for real, you know, for play. Well look, look,
well no, I'm just joking. But I'm home and we
are going to have such a good show today because
my girl is here. One of my flamus has been
riding with me from day one, the one that only
miss Bobby Cliff and Hi.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Bobby high Flame.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Happy Saturday Today, Happy Sunday. How are you too, Twins?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I am terrific. It was gorgeous, seventy eight degrees here
in Boston, sunny, cool breeze, a real gorgeous spring day.
It's happy to be anything but happy. It's hard to
be anything but happy.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, and well in the times that we live in,
and you better find happy is whatever you can. Bobby Christmas,
it's the truth. I'm so proud of my I said.
Let me tell y'all. I got my early birthday present
Bobby and Aaron. So when I had to come home
early on Thursday, I had to change my ticket on
Delta and I was waiting until my birthday to a
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platform an American Express card because I was waiting to
cross the thrill of seven hundred threshold. I was two
points away. So when I was changing the ticket and
they's like, why don't you just apply for Cristic, I'm like,
oh no, no, no, I'm waiting until my birthday because
I didn't want to get turned down. She said, I'm
looking at your history here, you should do it. I
said no, I don't want to be selling told no.
So she convinced me to do it. I was approved
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in two seconds for an American Spress card. Girl, I
almost jump out the midler. Now, let me tell you
why it is so important to me, because since I
was twenty two, I wanted an American Spress card, but I
ain't do right by my credit. Now I do, and
so I'm grateful to have one. It just took me
a long time to get it, but I haven't.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Don't leave home with that.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And it's a really nice limit, very good. So I
got my early birthday pras.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Can you can you finance on American Express or is
does actually be paid off at the end of the month.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Well, the one you get from Delfta you can finance
was the other one. But I got the hard car, Bobby,
I got the steal card.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Oh nice. I was just gonna say, it's a nice limit.
Don't get crazy with it if you have to pay
it off at the end of the month.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Oh, I'm not gonna even I'm not gonna touch this
car for nothing. My daughter already saw it. She was like,
can we go shopping? And I said, who's gonna pay
for it? Look, I got the hard car.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Sorry, Bobby, Ah, congrats.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I'm paying my bills on time. So let's get past
all of that. Well, let me start right here, because
we are going to get into all the mass shootings
that's happening. But I just need to start right here.
I did an interview with brother Reza Islam, who was
also a guest here on Laughline a couple of weeks ago,
and in the interview, he asked me, should women compete
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in sports to transform and be allowed to compete in
forts against biological women. My answer was absolutely not. I
stood on the answer and I stand by that answer now.
The reason I'm saying that is because with the special needs,
when they wanted to compete in the Olympics, they created
the special needs of them. With paraplegics, they created Olympics
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for paraplegics who have lost limbs or something in the
military or through life. The women that wanted to play
professional basketball when they could not play in the NBA,
they created a WNBA. They can create a lane for
trans athletes. It might start small, but it will get bigger.
That's what happens. That's what happens to a penis that
starts small. Your job is to get it bigger. Ask
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me how I know anyway, a video of a tan,
a young trans a person who said they identify as trends.
I'm saying what they say because looking at the video,
it's clearly a teenage boy who says he's identify as
as trans fighting two biological teenage girls. He's at least
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two feet taller than both of them, and he beat
both these girls up. Again, I say that we are
physically stronger, we are harder to handle because we still
are men, and this will be the face that they
will use. A video right there will be what they
will use to say. This is why trans athletes should
not compete against female athletes. Am I knocking the video?
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Not at all. I'm glad somebody recorded it because I
do not want trans athletes to compete against biological female athletes,
or I don't want transmitian athletes to compete against biological
male athletes. I think Elaine should be created for all
trans athletes. That is my take on it. You don't
have to like it, neither do you have to agree
with the listeners. That is how I feel, and I
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was raised on boys that are not supposed to beat
up on girls, But god damn it, what are y'all
giving them a butter pass to beat up on girls
because if y'all change the rules, I forgot to get
the memo.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Do you feel I know that we've seen.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
What we've seen recently coming out is that they were
more geared towards trans women competing with other women more
than trans men with men. So they were they I
think they were going to let the trans men compete
with men if they wanted, If you know, that's.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
That's the way they were looking. No, because they don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
If you don't know, if you're not gonna do.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You say it's all or nothing. That's that is where
I was going. Yes, that's where it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So either they're going to be able to do it
or they're not going You cannot pick and choose. It's
still not fair. It's not a fair advantage to the
transmi because the biological meaning the argument is still they're
going to still be stronger.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, absolutely, but no, I wasn't sure if that's where
you were going, because they you know, the trans men
don't have the testosterone, they don't have the aggression, and
I think that's why they were allowing them to and
they could get by the biological men.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, And it's not to say that some of these women,
these trans these trans means aren't strong as biological means.
Some of these male athletes see transmit athletes be strong
as a bull. But if you're not going to do
it for the women, you cannot do it for the mean.
Just create what I wanted to That's what it is.
So yeah, and I think that that video was for
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ponderous And they said I was watching some of the
reports from the news and from some of the students
that went to the school. I was looking on seeing
it in some other news publications, and they were saying
that the trans the person who identified a trands because
I'm not going to call that young person try they
identified as trains because they weren't trans. Was going in
the bathroom and exposing the junk and walking around exposing
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themselves to these young girls. I have daughters. Those girls.
Look about my youngest daughter age, she's in high school,
she's sixteen. I don't want my daughter exposed to that.
Not the Internet. I'm sure they haven't seen it all,
but I still don't want them going to the locker
room and anything could happen. And with the way things
have flipped with prison. Anybody can identify it in jail now, hell,
Eric and put our producer who looks clearly like a
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very handsome man. But he could throw a wig on
and a fingernail and say, oh, I identify as Trands
and they put him in prison with women. He can
get all the kuchie. He won't. No, this is where
we have pushed this. This is what we have pushed
it to. It is to a point of no return.
But it's at a breaking point, and it's not a
good breaking point for us, So please be careful and
please be cautious. I didn't agree with that, and I
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still don't agree with that, and I will stand by that.
And I get a lot of backlass trouble, but y'all
know I don't care. Okay, Bobby, where are we going next?
Because that's nothing for me.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
I appreciate, I thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I do feel it's important, especially for teenagers to have
some sort of lane to compete. They need to be hurt,
feel like they're heard and whatnot. So and I agree,
I mean, there's there should be something for them. So
we're going to have to We're going to have to
figure out. What that out?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
The sadness of the world. What's the sadness of the world, Bobby, Yes, what.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Is the sadness of There's like a million things right
now that are sad in the world. One of the
couple of our topics. You just just were talking about
being in New York. I don't know if you want
to talk about the New York subway shooting, if you
want to stay on New York and move from there.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But yeah, let's go to New York. So when I
was in New York, and so here's the I caught
the train. We were on live when I caught the train.
I caught the train online the subway because I wanted
to have a subway experience while I was in New York.
Fortunately it was We went on the subject on the
subway the day that this accidental incident happened. But there
was a guy. He was a street performer. His name
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is Neely. What's his name, Buddy, It.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Is Jordan Neely. He was thirty years old.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And he was a Michael Jackson impersonator. He worked to
train the subway system for years as a street performer.
He was dynamic. He suffered from some mental illness issues,
but here lately they have gotten a little aggressive. So
apparently he was on the subway train and he said
They say he was complaining that he was hungry. I
don't know if he was getting up in people's faces.
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We don't know a lot of the details. But what
we do know that we saw was a guy who
was a marine. He was an ex marine, and he
put mcneelie in a choke He put Neely in the
choke hold for four minutes and killed him. He died
from being in a choke hol once he got to
the hospital. I do think that it was too long.
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He is an ex marine. Neely was very small. The
marine who was a white guy. Neelie was black. The
marine who's a white guy looked buff. He looked very
marine ish. You know, if you think of a marine,
you think of him and cut it and shave and
all that, and he looked like that. I think that
it was the pressure was too long and too strong.
There were people there trying to calm it down, but
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we were not there. We don't know all the situation.
We don't know the capacity of how aggressive it was
or the energy that was on the train. So I
don't want to say that it was racially motivated. But
didn't we just see this picture, didn't We just watched
this movie with George Floyd. It's the only difference when
one was a police officer and now one is an
ex marine Bobby, you know, and I don't want to
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get my I'm black. Bobby is clearly a white woman.
This was a white man and a black man. I
don't want to just jump in and say it was
all racially motivated. We don't know the aggression of it.
But I'm waiting for it to unfold and stay with
tune to us here, so we'll give you more of
the story as we found out. That's my perspective. Now
we're gonna let Bobby give her Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I think I want to just jump on what you
had said. I do think that we need to. The
investigation is still going on. We know that the people
who immediately came forward, they already had their statements along
with the along with sergeant Penny. I don't what do
you want to call him sergeant Penny because he's retired
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and he was twenty four years old. They let him
go based on what his statement is and what the
statements of the other people and whatever they could see
inside the train. See, we were only seeing what somebody
actually filmed. We're not seeing the trained cameras. I don't
feel that this is in my opinion, I don't from
what I see so far, I don't feel like it
was racially motivated. If there was any prejudice at all,
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I think it might have been somebody that was homeless
and or somebody that had some pretty heavy mental health issues.
I believe they said he was schizophrenic. I think it's
completely unfortunate. I don't know, especially in today's environment. The
last time I was on FLAM and I were talking
about how scary as you can't pull in somebody's driveway
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or ring a wrong bell or I don't know. If
I was sitting on the train, if I don't have
mister Penny's expertise to do a choke hold, I wouldn't
even know how to try to keep somebody under and
under wraps. But I you know, I don't know how
I would have felt. We do know, of course, the
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people on the train at that time wouldn't wouldn't have
known this, But he has been arrested. Mister Neely forty
three times for a lot of petty any stuff like
jumping the turnstile, theft. We know that he also but
also assaults. I just wanted to sorry, let me finish
that thought he was he was in three times specifically
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on women that he assaulted women. He got onto the
train screaming that he didn't care if he died or
if he went to jail. Probably in his circumstance, the
poor guy, he probably would have been better off and
I had a place, because he had no food, he
was hungry, he was sick of having nothing. He's also
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nobody would know this on the train either. But he
was also somebody that lost his mother as a teenager
via murder from her boyfriend who actually stuffed her into
a suitcase and then jumped her into New Jersey, and
that had a terrific impact. I don't know if he
had some sort of break at that point and that's
where his mental health issues started. It's super just it's
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a super super sad thing.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I think I don't want to say, and I want
to say this body since you brought that up, maybe
because I don't know, but you know, with the assault charges,
because I hate when they go into the victim's past
to bring up everything that the victim has done. Right,
go to the culprit, whatever the case may be. This
other guy still murdered him, he still choked him to death.
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It's still a homicide. Yeah, whether or not they want
to bring up his past. And you know, and I'm
not saying that he did not accost a woman. He
did not touch a woman inappropriately, but it's been so
many false accusations now with women saying that somebody touched
them inappropriately. Now a lot of times they using that, Yes,
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that's just a ploy or attack it. I don't know,
and I don't want to say that. And I hate
that this man was going through the mental illness and
I didn't even know about him his mother like that.
So it's so many different components and so many different
factors that could have, like you said, made him more
off the rail that day. I don't think he deserved
to be murdered or killed that way. I hate him.
He was being aggressive on the train, and I'm hoping
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that justice is when they find out, when they get
to the root of whatever the whole problem is, that
justice is proper. So, yeah, we don't do on that
because I don't. I don't want to. I don't want
to ride that, Bobby, because I'm telling you parssing me
feelings curtain kind of way, and other parts of me don't.
But because I don't know, I can't say.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
That's how I feel. I can only report the facts
that I've been able to research, but I can't tell you.
And I wasn't there and I couldn't feel vibe, and
I don't, you know, I just don't know. I know
that we have a huge, huge mental health crisis in
the United States right now, and uh, we've got to
do something about it. Because my other feeling is that
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I've already mentioned that I don't feel like this. This
man should have been riding the train. You know, he
was too ill. He should have been getting services somewhere
or had medication. I don't know if he willingly did
not take his meds. A lot of mental mentally ill
people don't. But it could be that he wanted to
take them, but he didn't have the money to take them.
If he didn't have money, he certainly didn't have money
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for drugs.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I don't know, because you know, you can get some
of these mental health medications you can get for free.
But here's the problem. Side effect. But it's the side effect.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
It's true.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
They don't like it, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
They don't. They don't like the loopiness or they don't
like the distortion in their mind.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You don't feel sharped, you don't feel Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Sometimes libido, Yeah, sometimes the kids are libido. Sometimes it
makes you depressed. You know, medication. Different medications have different
sideffects some people. So maybe he had taken it and
he didn't like the way madhim said we don't know,
and we went we don't know, but God bless and
hopefully they'll get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Also, another mental health issue really was the Allen, Texas
mass shooting.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
And and Georgia. Yeah, well, first of all, May is mental
health mental health Awareness month. And good guy or they
showing up in May. Jesus the man in the hospital
and Georgia went up in there. He was trying to
get treatment. He couldn't get treated me, he couldn't get services.
He came back with a gun and shot the place up.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
That that was May third.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
He only killed one, but he injured three others. They
caught him uninjured. He's not dead, but it's so much
and then the other guy, who's the other one body
the mentalation.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
We had, the one we have.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
So this is even so I pulled up all the
mass shootings that have been going on. I'm only looking
at May. That's all I'm looking at. I'm not looking
at before or after. It's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
fourteen mass shootings in the month of May alone.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
So the one that we were.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Going to, right, I mean, can you so? Alan, Texas
was the other one that they had been showing clips
about a man who came into the Allen Premium Malls.
It's a mall that has one hundred and twenty stores
in it and just opened up outside one of the
one of the entrances. Thank god he didn't get inside
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the mall because there might have been more shoppers inside
versus out. The clip shows him just pulling up almost
like he's coming through just the parking space area, putting
it in park, getting out, and in shooting. And thank
god that there was a police officer that was there
in a different assignment. I don't know if he was
just doing you know, like they make a few extra
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bucks and they do traffic or something or you know,
when they're putting filling in potholes.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
But he heard the.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Shots and ran towards the shots neutralized the man. Otherwise
it could have been there could have been a lot
more shootings. He had an AR fifteen.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Is that what the AR fifteen?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
So that is there, that is their web, that seems
to be their weapon of choice, the one that they
will not stop selling. And that is the same weapon
that they keep using around the country to kill, kill kill.
Not only is it around this country, but his crossover
that we spoke about earlier to other countries, because now
the copycat effect is happening in other countries which they
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didn't even have mass shootings some of these other foreign kinds.
I know, it's crazy. They haven't had mass shootings since
maybe two thousand.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Well because they don't have guns, right like everybody. The
people don't realize. They wonder why the United States, Like so,
my family's from Ireland. You can't get on the gun Island.
Only the detectives, not even the regular cops that they
call Bobby's Strangely enough, they don't have guns, you know,
they have nightsticks and they have other ways to neutralize
probably tasers. Now. Back when I used to go, they
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didn't have a lot. But it was funny, I ab it.
He's the governor was on and I didn't hear him
say anything about how he was going to stop the violence.
He wants to keep guns out of criminal's hands. Not
in any of these one hundred and ninety nine shootings
since the beginning of the year, was there a criminal
involved that I could see or that they mentioned or
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that they clarified for us. And he's blaming it on
mental health. But he's also probably one of the ones,
or his party certainly is that is shooting President Biden's
tuition reimbursement down. And I say that because if we
can't get people to willingly go into these fields and
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be mental health providers, we're going to have to pay
for their school. We're gonna have to make it easy
so they want to go in. They make the least
amount of money, they can't be left with, you know,
a couple hundred thousand and student loans and they're only
making fifty thousand a year.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
You know, it's funny. It's it's we the people we
value the least or that are most.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Important jobs, These essential workers get paid the least.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's absolutely Wait a minute, but we have had one
hundred and ninety nine mass shooting, hundred shootings and undy
seven days. Wow wow.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
And I looked, nineteen of them were in Texas.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
So you're at Grey Avid and and and and Florida,
Texas and Florida. I love.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Actually I'm looking at Florida, not a whole lot of
There's been a couple in Florida, but not as many
as I thought there would be.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Well, I'm about the laws and Texas in Florida.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, they're all very states, right yeah, open
carries so they.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Don't have to do it is for ponderans and it
is out of control. And until they change these laws,
especially with these air fifteens, because these air fifteens are
such crazy weapons and just such damage to the body.
But they're making so much money and people like Majorie
Taylor Green and you know, and I already keep pushing
thesegena's pushing the pushing, the pushing it as if they
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get the best. Interesting. I wonder what they have chicks
look like, because I know they giving them chicks on
the personal to pay to do free advertisements for.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
If I'm sure, they're all the lobbyists and in their pockets,
but I don't We've got to We've got to do
something with the mental health. We also have to do
something with these assault weapons. You know, if we want
to get if we want to get guns under control.
That's nobody's talking about that or things that would be acceptable.
So I don't want to take guns away from anybody.
I think you've got the right to carry on them.
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But I just I don't want it to just become
you know, opening the trunk of your car and people
just dig it in. I mean, we have to do
some sort of background checks.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I think it's too late.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I think we can do something for the kids. So
maybe too late for you and me playing, but what
about like the grandchildren, Like can we fix it by them?
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Well when in certain states like Florida and Texas that
we talked about earlier, they give their kids that is
write a passage years old, Yeah they don't. They absolutely do.
I mean it's it's it's absolutely crazy to me. But
we're going to do something. We're going to do something.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
And if we can start with mental health and taking
the assault wife weapons, if just do those two pieces,
it would be, it would be wonderful and getting rid
of the stigma. So like I like any time that
that he can. I've seen Charlemagne on the Breakfast Club
with you there too. We will talk about his struggles
in his lifetime about mental health and how important it
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is to have a therapist and blah blah blah. So
we need more people like that that people look up
to to.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I think when we first started doing coffee time that
when the pandemic first hit, I said that when this
was all over, the pandemic was all over, that the
the whole country need to just put out couches and
a loud speaker. I think you need to lay on
the couch and get some therapy, because it's the way
it's the times that we're living in. It is so scary, it.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Is and it's stressful, and it's you know, and in
kids social media is you and I were blessed that
we didn't have any of this when we were growing up,
but you know, competition and whatnot is so is so stiff.
You know, I wish guidance counselors they used to serve
a role. It wasn't just to get you into a school.
Years ago it was they acted as social workers, and
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I wish we could get back to something like that
or make it so that you had social workers that
were open to the kids that were in the school
and they felt comfortable enough to go. But you can't
even keep teachers without having thirty kids in a class.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, thirty key is no assistant. It's scary, Bobby, It's
very scary. All it takes is too disruptive. Take is
too disruptive to true. And I said about I'm honestly
thinking about taking my daughter out of school and have
homeschooling her to get out of high school. It's just
getting too scary, and I don't even feel like she's
getting the education that we got. To be honest, I
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just don't. I think that it's so much worry and
fear in the school system now that you have the
teachers can't even consciously just teaching these kids because it's
getting worse because the fear you're worried about who's bringing
in a gun or who has a weapon, And bullying
is so out of control. Bullying, bullying. It is definitely
not bullying that I remember. I remember being bullied. I
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didn't get my ass with a couple of times. I
wore plenty of asses too, but I never thought I
was gonna get killed. And the bullying now means you
might get killed.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, I don't. Well, all I can say is, if
you start to homeschool, you're going to need the mental health.
You better get it. You better get yourself.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I would get a tutor. I wouldn't. I would get
a tutor. She's too difficult.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Because I'm like, oh my god, I'd be losing my mind.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
But at least I would have a different feel because
I'm always afraid. If I get an email from the
school or a text from the school, you know is
they're shooting and moov because you cannot be accountable for
somebody else's kid, and I hate that. Sometimes we blame
the parents, but teenagers keep a lot of a lot
of stuff internally. They don't share with the adults. They
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share with other teenagers, or they shared with social media.
They shared publicly with the world on social media, thinking
they talking to one or two of their friends, not
realizing that you're talking to everybody's following you on your
page or whoever decides to share with. It is just
a scary time, and it is beyond repair, beyond control.
I do want to give a shout out to the
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telethon that's having drag It is not dangerous. They having
a big telethign tonight because drag shows are not dangerous. Again,
I still stand with drag shows. I stand for drag shows.
I do not stand for reading in the library to
kids and inappropriate clothing. I don't care whether you trans, gay, straight, white, fat,
black eye do.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I'm just gonna say yeah, I want everybody covered up.
I don't want to plopping out. I don't know who
you are or what you are.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I don't care what you identify. Ask cover your head,
that's what you identify.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Ask cover I want to see us.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I'll be showing your booty to my babies. I don't
They ain't looking at my booty. They damn sure don't
want to look at you. It's a good God, you know.
But Bobby, it was just it's just it's I'm sadden.
I'm sorry said this, but I am sadden because all
the drama that's happening in the world with the mass shooting,
so I can't I can't get past this. Hopefully I
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see that everybody talking about Biden and Trump and Trump
and Biden. I'm hoping that Biden wingings again if we
have no one else. I know a lot of people
have been saying a whole bunch of negative things, but
I still hope Biden wings. Y'all say negative things about
Prince Charles too. He still got the crown. It took
him eighty nine years, but he still got it.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
His mother held on to that until her giant breath.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
She was not trying to give up that crown to Charles,
because I guess she figured and then then Camella got
what she wanted. She is now the queen.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
I know, wasn't it I could have? I usually I
like all that.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Stuff because I like pageantry, but I just couldn't. I couldn't.
I just couldn't bear her. And I know what she
did was done thirty five years ago or whatever. We
probably I should probably get over it, but I she's
just like a big old horse face to me. I
just caun't it over.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
She's I just I see her and she does the
work and all that.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I'm a grudg sholder from way back on Irish. What
can I say?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Listen, Camela stayed in her lane, stayed in her place,
kept her mouth, she had kept her head low and
get what she wanted. She got the ground, oh absolutely.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I mean she wasn't getting it until two years ago
or a year and a half ago. I think Elizabeth
announced that if he should be Queen corn Corn sort,
if he was, he became king, and maybe you'd have
to because I don't know what could she say a
princess if he's a king of the husband's king.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
You know, there's a lot of rules.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I wonder how the thought, how the children feel that
they knew that this woman had such a hand in
the demise of their mother and I had death, oh
per se.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
But you know the marriage too, she she picked her
if you watch any of the stuff she because she
was already married with kids and they had whatever relationship,
supposedly it was just friends, and she picked her and
knowing and then went right in and inserted herself into
their marriage. You know, there was the three of them,
as Diana said in an interview that you know, the
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con't be three people in a marriage. I saw the
two of them, including Harry, and they said they were
and they said it in a nice way. They said,
if you anybody that spends more than you know. A
half hour with them sees that they are literally were
made for each other.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
You know, did it mean that they forgive for what
happened with the mother?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
I don't think, you know, they didn't even put that on,
but they said that, you know, they she makes him
very happy, period.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Poor poor poor Corlgees. I know after all that she
came home to Elizabeth. I know she keeped the ship
out of the dolls. I know them couryers keep the
hell between Harry brings between Harry bringing the home of
black woman, and and and child's bringing home old woman.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Good god, hey, did she for the love of God,
she's She's with her her second ex daughter in law.
They're living with Sarah Ferguson.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
That's who got them. Can you imagine?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Oh yeah, they telling her all the stories. They telling
her all the stories. Bobby was beautiful. I'm with you, Bobby.
I love all the pomp and circumstance of all the royals.
I know the history of the royals. We know people
got negative things to say about this, that and the third,
But right now we were only talking about the Poma
circumstance and the beauty of those jewels and crowns. And
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I know you say something about the jewels. Oh they
stole the jewels? Did they steal them from you? Okay, yeah,
well they.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Were given to them by and it's and it's way
before them, you know, it's you think I got the
royal family. They're all different countries come in. Like if
they did their ancestry dot com and I did mine,
I'm probably more English, even though I'm not English at all.
You know, they're a little bit of German, they're a
little bit this, they're but all those people brought stuff
in because remember women weren't valued, so you had to
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give a dowry, and you had to give the jewels
and you you know, one of the jewels if they
came from wherever? Blood diamonds. Should they have given them back?
I don't know, but right now they have them. This
is the first time in history neither the queen or
the king got new got new thrown, not thrown crowns.
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They used. They used existing crowns, which was good. You know,
that's recycling at its best, which I sort of liked.
I thought that was sort of cool. And you know,
the people of England shouldn't have to pay for new crowns.
That's bs when when you've got a vault full of
them and everybody doesn't even get to wear them for
more than ten minutes each.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Well, I'm sure I'm glad Camella. I mean, Camilla got
a chance to put hers on, because she already is
about ten years older than Elizabeth.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
So yeah, oh she was. She didn't it didn't add
to her though, didn't didn't give her any didn't give
her any oomph.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
There's something about her that just and she was like
scratching at the back. I'm like your calum, lady, keep
your hands. If it's pulling your hair out. You've been imagined.
You suck it up for beauty, you know, sitt in beauty.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Beauty. Okay, first of all, beauty and Camella should not
even be on the same page. Oh my god, thank
you for getting I like the Harry when, I love her,
I love her hair. When and I knew that Megan
couldn't go, she had to be at home with the baby.
Plus you know that we don't know what kind of
blood is happening over there. Everybody want to say, well,
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it's disrespectful. No, you don't know what kind of situation
she was going into.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Oh, I wouldn't do it for that.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
If I could say anything, I would only say I
think that it was an opportunity lost for exposure, for
not of her children, for her children. It would have
been wonderful in eighty years for her kids to look
back and say, oh, that's what Grampy's you know, coronation,
And here I was. I thought, you know, I thought
that was an opportunity lost. But they have to make
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their own decisions. If they didn't feel safe or whatever,
that that's on them. They really were going to celebrate
the little going.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
In my head right now, Bobby, I can't remember one
time I've ever seen a picture with Prince Charles holding
Harry and Meghan's kids. I can't think of one picture
I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Or any I've seen him talking. He talks to them,
I see them like that, but I've never seen.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Him I saw the No I've seen him holding. I've
seen him holding William's children.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Oh have you. I've never seen them holding. I see
him interacting with them, like he kind of gets down
on their level, and I see that, but I've never
seen holding Hey, flame, you know what we can't even
be critical. He's probably met them twice, and you know, kids,
you're not going to pass the kid off to a stranger.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Well, you know, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
They haven't been over there all that long. They've been
in the US, and they've done their kids. So I
don't know how much how much exposure he's actually even had,
So I could be critical from a lot of things,
but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Well, congratulations, congratulations King Charles. You family got you found
King Charles.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah, he waited to the very end.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Because Elizabeth wasn't happening. I'm gonna tell you what. When
we shook it up, Harry brought their sister home Baby
because the Queen Elizabeth wasn't gone. She was on literally
about three hundred. She was determined as to lead a
crown to Charles. Harry brought their sister home. It shook
the whole castle of baby. Oh my god, listen here.
Thank you body for joining me today. Thank you. I
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got a lot of personal stuff going on, so I'm
ladies and Geman. I don't feel like by this episode
is of the part. It's just been a lot. New
York was a roller coaster out of everything so, but
we're home now. We gotta put it together. I have
a new video that's dropping on Tuesday that I did
with Macy Gray. It is called cop Killer. If you
guys get a chance to listen to it, it'll be
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everywhere on Tuesday. I think they're releasing on World Start
and then she's going to release it on MTV or
something like that. And this me and there, y'all wait
till y'all see. Oh my god, just watch it. Please watch.
It's called cop Killer.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
So it's a it's a music video.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yes, the song gets very catchy too, but it's very
scandalous and it's very controversial. You know my middle name?
And uh yeah, we just I just listen. We got
some other projects coming up. I shut the Sizzereal for
the new show. He she Weed's Red Carper review. We're
gonna see how that goes. I am still up for
the job at the Breakfast Club. We'll see how it goes.
And I might be doing some things with Sheery nodded
(36:49):
Sheerri Shepherd, since she had removed the couple of her producers.
Oh and congratulations to Sheery Shepherd before Emmy nominations for
Best Talk Show also to Jennifer her So we will
see what's happening. Because here at Laugh and Learn Season three,
we are never trying to get you to change your man.
We are only trying to get you to use your
bad because their mind is a terrible thing to waste.
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Don't waste your man, ladies and gentlemen. And if you
feel like it's right, and everybody else feel like it's wrong,
but you feel like it's right, you don't have to
go along with everybody else. You got to do what's
best for you.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
And they're right, Bobby, Absolutely, go with your gut.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
That's what we're told that as little kids, and we
never do.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
If my gus said I want a jelly donut and
not a glaze donut, then I'm getting my jelly donut.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
But no, absolutely go with your gut. And as Jan
always says, keep your head in a swile. Pay attention.
These are people that we're just going into a store
for this latest shooting. So I'm going to pay attention
to where you are.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
And I want to ask everyone America, everybody who's listening
to the sound is but sounding me and Bobby's voice
when you're out in public. I know you want to
be careful. You or thinking you're going to the grocery store,
you're going to church. Look around, Just just get your
face out that phone. Look around and see who's around you,
because you don't know what kind of days somebody else
is having. If somebody looks strange, nine times out of ten,
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they are strange. And strange don't mean you're gonna go
to the other side of the store. Strange now means
that you might need to get the hell out the
store or get out the establishment if they look a
little crazy, because sometimes you really can see the spastic
inst somebody's faces if you're looking for it. A lot
of these have been just show up and just start shooting,
so you don't the element of surprise gets you. But
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play attention, y'all. Look around. Look at why you get
on a coat and it's ninety degrees outside. You know
why they looking strange in the face. Pay attention to them.
You could you could possibly save your own life. And
if you're in the grocery store, run to the freezer.
Jump in the freezer. Ain't gonna come to the frost,
gonna freeze up. They don't even see you in there.
You be cold as hell, but you'll be alive.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
And I'd say also, I think we don't have to
go to every fight we're invited to. And I think
a lot of people forget that if somebody irks you
in a little way, you just let it go. You know,
you don't have to you don't have to engage. And
then sometimes people just need to be treated with a
little respect and compassion.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
That's that's easy to said and done, though, Bible. Looking
at the man in Texas, that guy last week who
went the guy the man next door asked him to
stop shooting his gun, and he went in the house
and killed all the neighbors.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
I just can't even I just did that. I mean,
it's absolutely absolutely crazy. But look where he came from
and what he did for a living. You know, like
that's somebody. Now, maybe they didn't know that though, the
neighbors when they asked him to they wanted to put
their baby.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
He is, didn't know, but he had been deported back
out the country three or four times. He kept sneaking
back in. Yeah, ridiculous, crazy, ridiculous. Bobby Clifford, thank you
so much for joining me here, laughing on you got
me through this week, mister Aaron, I appreciate you, my
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