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February 29, 2024 51 mins

In this episode, Flame Monroe and resident flamette Bobby Clifford discuss the ongoing immigration challenges, Trump's immunity case, space exploration, Wendy Williams' declining health, Nikki Haley's political career, the Alabama IVF ruling, the importance of voting and the need for unity in the upcoming election, recognizing Toni Morrison and Paul Mooney and much more. Tune in and comment in the socials below.

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
We're saying, if you watch your coffee time the baby
you know the name Flame, my bro also known as
my Roe Flame, come in with last and come in

(00:49):
with Jim Love loundes. Baby, you better catch it when
you can drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Shouting now comics, just paying homage. What's up tips? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
You know she raised shot towns on speaking to the
grown a second year. We're gonna last to cut him
and kicking in at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
We leave it with just a lift his firirite. But
you want to revisit so your first second listen, young folks.
So it's lift old folks that.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
We take it?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Goodkay?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Don't this do what you do?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
This do what you do?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Can no do what I do?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hey, hey, hey, this is comedian Flame my Rolle and
welcome to this episode of Laugh and Learn. Baby. We
on the countdown for season four. We are almost done
with season three and we wholeheartedly thank you from the
bottom of our hearts. From our producer mister Aaron Howard,
to myself, my beautiful self, Flaming Row, and to my
gorgeous co host Bobby Clifford. How you took all right? Yeah?

(02:00):
We on the countdown to season four, Bobby Clifford.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yes we are. We're almost there.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
For is my good luck number and it's looking real
for Dangerous Honey. So but listen, this is a hot
year for politics. And when I say hot, I ain't
even talking about hot because the stove it's hot. I'm
just talking about it's hot in all capacities. So let's
put it to the test and let's see what we
got to do. I'm gonna tell you my model right now.
It's still I'm raving with Baden, but he ain't driving.

(02:27):
I'm just saying what I got to say. Listen, you
you pick and choose who you want. That is who
I'm picking. I don't even want to know who you
picking because you might scare me. I might like you.
You say the wrong thing, I'm gonna stop liking you immediately.
Does that mean, Bobby.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's not mean? After after the stuff that Trump has
said over this past weekend, the ridiculous comments that he
thinks he's gaining some sort of favor with the Black voge,
I don't think it's mean at all.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna get into all that, but
that's not all this week by letting you guys know
that I am in Chicago right now, my hometown, my city,
and I'm here to do promo. I'm here to celebrate
the fifty fifth anniversary of the Baton Show Lounge, which
has been a very important part of my career as
a female impersonator. I actually started there. I will tell

(03:17):
you what year, but if I tell you a year,
I had to kill you and I ain't ready go
to jail for murder. And so he's celebrating fifty five
years of some of the greatest and female impersonation, mister
Jim Flant, So hats off to that. But while I'm here,
I've also been picked up to do press for the
comedy show that I'm doing, Marshall twenty nine and thirty
at Marshall twenty ninth and thirtieth at the world famous

(03:39):
Laugh Factor in Chicago. So get your tickets at on
the website or go to the box office thirty one
seventy five on Broadway. So Friday morning, I am doing WGCI,
which is one oh seven point five at seven pm
Central Standard which is eight East coast and five West Coast.
Then at eight point fifty Central Standard I'm doing Fox

(03:59):
New and then at eleven, I'm doing ABC News with
our warners. So you guys downloaded on iHeart, which you
already should be downloaded on iHeart as you listen to
us here on Laugh and Learn for the radio, and
you can watch YouTube on Fox later after we tape it.
But it's gonna be good. I'm going to advertise and
promote and thank my flame ass and talk about Laugh

(04:19):
and Learn of season four and of course Bobby Clipping
and Aaron and everything. So just listening, I get a
chance to cut up and this won't be no in
and out. I get once I get in, I get
the stained.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Well, you dirty bird, I'm not even.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Oh, Bobby, get your man out together. I'm talking about
like bread, and I'm talking about bread in the oven. Okay,
so you guys listen and remember May tenth is my
showcase for the Elisian for Netflix at the Elysian for Netflix.
As a joke. In March sixteenth, I'll be a Pittsburgh
speaking of Netflix. My boy down there, Rolins just dropped
his special executive producer by Dave Chappelle. I'm biased to

(04:59):
how I feel. I know everybody have their own comedy
is suggested, its subjective and everybody feels their own way.
But I traveled nine arenas with him. Last year with
Dave Chappelle, I also hosted his comedy, his sold out
comedy show at Donelle Lamb, which he gives every year,
and was treated very royally so and I enjoyed. I
thought it was good.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
He lookd aok A million bucks. He really did. He
pulled it together.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
I had. I love the blue suit. I had an
issue with the red tie. I'm just saying me and
the color red right now after until after the November
fourth elections, me and the color red got an issue.
Let me just say it. But yeah, so you guys
watching on Netflix. It's called A New Day and Donelle
is my boy, and it is exactly produced by the

(05:41):
goat himself, mister Dave Chappelle. So yeah, Bobby, let's get
right into it. I just had to get all of
that out.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
No, it's informative and we like to hear and we
like to hear it too. I don't do we want
to do black history at the end of the.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Month, at the end of the Yeah, let's do black
history at the eend.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Okay, do you have somebody.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
I'm sure I'll wrecked my brain.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well you'll come up with somebody. Okay, it's just a
couple of informs. One of them is Don Lemon's case
was finally settled. He is to be paid twenty four
point five million, which is actually what the what the
rest of his contract would have been had they paid
it out. The only unfortunate thing is he's gonna he's
gonna lose a third of that right to attorney's fees

(06:24):
and whatnot, So that kind of stinks. But he's sort
of vindicated.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Twenty four point five. I know Don Limmon's personal cell
phone number. Let me text him, see if I can
buy one hundreds dollars. Good god, jeez, good for Don them.
I don't know what happened with that demise over there
on C and end, but they got that new president
and it was a lot of shakeups over there. Oh yeah,
he just happened to be one of the shakeups. Speaking

(06:49):
of Don Limb and I had a dream about Chris
Pomo and Julia Roberts last night. It was the strangest dream.
They were married, and they him them with gardening, which
I don't do. Guardian. The ants kept crawling all over me.
I couldn't get rid of the ants. I don't know
what it meant. But so if anybody knows what ant's
crawling over you means, I don't know, because if Chris
Coolman was in my dream, I damn sure don't want

(07:10):
to see him married to anyone else. Good God, I know.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
And not no was Ann's I don't know. Maybe they
were they marching in a row.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
They was, They was just all over me.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
They just forget time. I'm we had.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
A we had a passing this week, Bobby, Yeah, who
is it?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Today? We had Richard Lewis, the comedian Aftor died today.
He had a heart attack.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Also the mayor of uh of Michigan. I think he
was in Michigan. He was the mayor of a city, Flint, Michigan.
He passed as well. And he was very outspoken. I
cannot think of his name, Bobby, I'm going to google
his name. Uh. He was very outspoken. He was very,
very very into UH just helping Michigan, Flint, Michigan with

(07:53):
the water crisis that they have, because they've had a
water crisis for years down there, with which water has
affected those people and uh, it's it's just terrible. It's
things have made everywhere.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, we're I mean, we discussed on last week. I
don't know if it's going to help a Flint, Michigan specifically,
but President Biden is he put money aside. I can't
tell you the exact dollar amount of the tip of
my fingers for infrastructure like water, so everybody has better
water throughout the country. He's you know, they're going to
go state by state, so let's fingers and toes. It

(08:29):
will help. Oh, it's an activist. Eric Mays, a Michigan
City council member.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, he was the male version of anti Maxine Waters
because he did not play with him when it came
down to taking care of the people, which is what
politicians signed up to do. Yeah, is to cove it
and take care of their people. That is the first
priority and the first authority and job description. You are

(08:57):
supposed to take care of the people. That I actually
voted for you to put you in that position. But
of course that that's like throwing the baby out with
the bath water.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Oh, I wonder does it tell us how how he
passed He was only sixty five in today's day and
age that's that's relatively young. Yeah, it was quickly and
his family.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, he was a strong soldier. Okay, Bobby, let's get okay,
where we going.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
So the next is, there's so much, it's so jam
packed today, just literally what happened today. I'm hoping we
get to everything. If not, we'll stay tuned. We'll we'll,
we'll round it up next week. Mitch McConnell, he's going
to step down as the minority leader of the Senate
in November. He's going to complete his Senate seat, which

(09:45):
I think goes through twenty twenty seven. I believe.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
He looked a.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Little slim today. Always a little turtlish the way he
holds his head, but a little slim. I think he
got a little, a little choked up. I have a
feeling he's being pushed out. He's not necessarily willingly going out,
And it makes me nervous that that Maga Wright is
somehow growing like a fungus.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well listen, you see what. They holding him there until November,
and we haven't seen it in quite some time. So
they're holding him until after November fourth, which will be
the doo. It's all overplay for the underplay but underplay
for the overplay. But listen, I hope Mitch McConnell gets
his health together because inas much as I don't care

(10:28):
for him, in that position, we could actually get somebody
way worse, way worse.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Isn't it the truth? It's like the devil, you know,
is the old expression goes. I mean, we're only days
away March first, in March eighth from government shutdown. Parts
of the government are going to actually shut down, and
we can't even get things moving with that. At least
he seems sort of dedicated to at least he gave
a slip service that he didn't want necessarily the government

(10:55):
to shut down, but they still won't pass that Ukraine
Aid and the border bill.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Well, Miss McConnell may not even know what's going on.
He might be somewhere frozen.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Oh, I will say he looked. He looked pretty on
it today, like he he was sharp. He had his
notes in front of him and he just but he
was just speaking pretty easily. So whatever that is.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Speaking of being sharp, I beloved the president. President Joseph
ar Biden had a health test today and he cleared
it with with a straight a. So he's doing his
health is really good. He was walking like a boss today.
He looked fantastic. He did an interview the other night
and I think it was Jimmy Kim or somebody, and
they said, so you're eighty one? Used that? He said,
who told you? I thought he was sharp. I thought

(11:37):
it was funny.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
He's got a great sense of humorous suf whatever seth
Exeth Meyer. Yes, he's the late No, no, the late
late byer. You were right, the late light Meyer.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
He and I love that. Joe Biden. President Biden just
shows you that that's quick wit. The quick wit requires
an intellect, it required it requires a cuts acute sharpness.
He's there kind of like what you tell me bout me?
I want sharp play. I don't want the other plane.
So he had not he had not been in the

(12:11):
Edibles because he was very sharp, mister bids. I appreciate that,
and I think I think him and Jill had did
a little slipper slab real talk.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I think when you have a speech impediment like a stutter,
and you've got multi layered information that's coming in, I
think you do get a little slower. And he wants
to be careful. How we how we gets stuff out.
But I think in any of the times I've seen him,
does he have gaps, Yes, but he had gaps at
thirty five, you know, like that's sort of his that's

(12:41):
sort of his thing. Trump was was had some sort
of interview and he was calling his wife Mercedes. I
don't know if she drives her Mercedes. I don't know.
Her name is Melaenia. So you know, I don't think
one is necessarily better than the other.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Well, I'm very happy that president got a clean bill
of help again. Ran with Baden, but he just not driving. Okay, Bobby,
where are we going? Okay?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
So speaking of him, he actually met with Alexei and
Alban now Navami, I killed that name with the daughter
and the wife, and he said he you know, I
guess he had a nice speech with him and told
him how how courageous they were. And he's put sanctions
on on Russia. He had sanctions before, but as they
kind of peel back the onion and they see all
the other banking systems and everybody that's involved. He added

(13:28):
an additional say that ten times fast, five hundred sanctions
that he's placed on them. But it makes me nervous
because they've got that poor girl there.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
So yeah, and to anybody listens, who's wonder whose no
value is? That was the outspoken of a guy in
Russia who spoke up against and and out against uh
Vladimir Putin, and he had been in prisons for so
many years and he ended up suddenly dying. So that's
who it was.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Just walk on a walk people. They did. His mother
did get the ball body back. They were holding the
body because I'm sure I hate to think of what
condition it went back to them, because I am sure
that they're gonna want to have done something to it
so that, you know, a private post mortem would be skewed.
You know, they're not going to want to show that

(14:16):
he would they poisoned him again, or they beat him
up or whatever it is. So I can't imagine. But
it made a difference to his mom because his mom
wanted to bury him, you know, and the Christian faith
that's you know, you need to have the body. Did
you lose your phone last week and that whole big outage.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Thing that happened, Absolutely not I did. I'm an at
and tier I'm rising.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Well, see you're you're more bougie. I guess I was old.
Sell one, must sell one when it was back in
the day, like in the nineties when the phones first
came out. I just kept it. And then they got
bought out, and they got bought out, and they got
bought out, and they got bought out. I did get
something today that said, this is hysterical. So I lost
six hours of work. They're going to give me five

(15:03):
dollars for my inconvenience.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Oh I saw that, Bobby, I said, whopping by the
You can't even buy big bac with five dollars. Let
me tell you something. Every time they just send some
satellites up to out of space, they keep messing with
each other. They go up there messing with et It
messes up something down here. Et made a phone out
of a etcher sketch, some batteries and a damn wired

(15:27):
hangar no wire hangers, and called his people and went
home and y'all keep messing with him. Yeah, that was
bad for a lot of people. Now, imagine being stranded
somewhere and you in dire emergency. That was crazy.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, I have to VPNN, right, so it's a remote
end to get into the systems and you need a
phone to be able to do it. It has to go
through it has to go through a phone wire. So
I really did. I mean, it was nice to have
the day off, but you know, trying to make up
the time so you don't you don't lose the time
as kind of the pits. But anyway, that was that.
I just wanted to see if if you had had

(16:01):
heard anything, because it's stunk. Something that's good. I'd like
to pass along a little good news. There's a woman
named Ruth Gottsman. She's the widow of a billionaire financire.
She also was a professor. She has given donated one
billion dollars to the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in
the Bronx to cover tuition indefinitely. She's ninety three years old.

(16:25):
She wants to make sure that the gift is given
because she wants to attract a diverse pool of applicants.
She doesn't want them leaving med school with any debt.
I think it's terrific. These are the types of things
that we need to sort of level the playing fields.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
After her how many billion, one billion, Well she knows
she couldn't take it with us, so I'm glad for that,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
But she could have given it to the next she
could have done anything, given it to the cats.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Right, at least she won one it in it. I'm
gonna leave everything to my dog. You know, if somebody
ever have a dog and you leave a billion dollars
to that dog and you leave that dog with me,
that dog will be right behind you.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Oh, he couldn't live Fightop, couldn't live without you, he was.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, he's gone. You think I'm gonna fighter up and
gold houses and all that fighter will be? Don't worry.
He on his way. He's coming right back. Joe, I'm Peter.
It's a joke before y'all get in your feelings, because
you know you can't even say anything no more. It
was a joke, y'all. Good God, But your chances.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Are though not speaking, dogs get really attached. So it
depends on.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I would at least wait thirty days.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Good Jesus, could you imagine Timmy? Timmy would be would
be like one of those old Italian ladies. Haven't laying
across the casket. If anything ever happened to you. Do
we have to be able to handle it?

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Do? We have to make a personal. I do not
want my timmy on my desk. Oh my God, must
be personal. Bobby Cliffs and Jesus take the wheel to.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Biden and Trump are both going to the border tomorrow
because they're trying to get that edge on immigration. I
don't know how Trump can hold his head up on
this one, where he's telling everybody not to do something
for the emergent issue that's going on. We just had
that poor nursing student, Lincoln Riley, who was killed by

(18:23):
a criminal that got across the border, Jose Antonio Ebarra.
I guess he was twenty six. So I'm sure that
somebody's going to throw out either side that you know,
this girl was killed and it's together scouts. But it's
hard to think had they put that in a week ago,
maybe nothing would have happened to her two weeks ago,
like when they wanted.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Oh yeah, Bobby, I don't every time we discussed excuse
me out, But every time we discussed the immigrant problem.
They keep putting it on this president, and you can't
even put it on Trump. It's been happening for so
many different presidencies, but the weight is falling right now,
so heavy on President Biden because ex President Trump has

(19:07):
put out the dog whistle for them not to approve
something that they all want it anyway. It's just crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Oh my god. But there's two the way that I
look at it, there's two issues with this. There is
the emergency that the bill that's sitting on Mike Johnson's
desk that he doesn't even want to bring that would resolve,
you know, or do something with. And then there's actual
immigration reform, which President Trump could run on immigration reform,

(19:36):
there's a whole big kettle of fish that he can
still fry, so you know, I don't understand what that is.
But that's and then and they had like that Georgia
State had, Georgia College had two kids. Augusta University I
think it was had two people that had died. So
that's a lot for a campus to have to deal with.

(19:58):
So that's that's pretty that's pretty crap stuff to think
that you can't even go for a run to clear
your mind to get ready to study, because that's always
the best way you're gonna worry about something happening to you. Yeah, okay,
I'm right, moving on, Moving on. That FAI informant was
charged again for the same stuff. We'll see what happens.

(20:19):
We'll see what happens with him. Hunter Biden did go
this morning, and he had that closed door, that closed
door deposition, and he had a couple of nice quotes
that had come out, but he really kind of held
them a task. He said, he's here today to provide
the committees. Was one of the uncontestable facts that should

(20:40):
end the false premise of the inquiry that I did
not involve my father in any of my business. So
I mean, but you know, both people were claiming victory.
The Democrats came out and they were squawking one thing,
and the Republicans came out and they were squaking something
else on the other side of the stage. So we'll
see what happened. Yeah, it's it's it's really sad, he said.

(21:04):
To be clear, I've made mistakes in my life. I've
squandered opportunities and privilege that were afforded to me, and
I know that I'm responsible for that, and I'm making
amends for that. But my mistakes and shortcomings are my
own and not my father's, who's done nothing but devote
his entire life to public service and try to make
this country a better place to live.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
So I kind of think that Hunter biding with that
quick win and that comeback and he's not afraid to speak,
is I think it's kind of hot. Let me just
say that.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
I wish. But but on the other side, they were Republicans,
they're they're they're not giving it up, you know, They're
they're still gonna go ahead with the with the impeachment inquiry.
This doesn't this doesn't end here, you know, just because
he had a few a few statements. So I'm gonna
be honest, I'm a little bit I'm a little bit
disappointed with that because what is it flame? What is

(21:54):
your special going to be called?

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Distractions? Booth? Yeah, brace yourself.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
And that's all it is. That that really is all
it is. It's it's pretty pretty disappointing.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
But on a lighter note, yeah, Trump Trump has offered
to pay only one hundred million dollars of them three
hundred and fifty five million dollars silver Frog case because
he claims this billionaire who's you know, so he's so
rich and he claims he doesn't have it.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Well, he's gonna, yeah, he's offering that bond. But but
the Appeals Court denied it. Uh, you know, they denied it,
So that that's going we're kind of moving on. I
just wish we're kicking the can down and so one
of the big things that that is happening and it's unfolding.
So I don't have a lot of information, and I
don't know if you you do either, is Scotus has

(22:49):
agreed to hear the his his ridiculous declaration that he
has immunity. The appeals court, the Federal Appeals Court bundled
it up very nicely, and they packaged it up, I
think knowing that he was going to go to the
next level. So I think that they're going to vote

(23:12):
in the end exactly how the Appeals Court did. But
this is pure politics right now. So he put three
people and remember, and they're going to drag it out.
They're going to drag it out so that Jack Smith
can't do his dojks.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Well, here's the killer. He appointed three Federal Supreme Court
justices while he was in office, and the fact that
the Lord Court has already made a ruling on it.
The Supreme Court is fed off of them. They should
have said no. My fear is that them even giving
him a hearing. Bobby is that they should have just
denied it from jump, but they did not. I'm telling you,

(23:47):
it is mind bothering to see which way we are
going with all of this. But this is the America
that we live in.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
If they did, I mean part of me, I feel
sort of mixed on it, like it didn't even occur
to me that they would try to drag things out
because these are people that are highly educated. They're supposed
to be impartial and blah blah blah. Because I was
thinking part of me thought, you know that President Trump,
with his personality, is not going to believe anybody but
the best, right, So if the best make the same decision,

(24:17):
which is what everybody seems to think, it really can't
go very well. Even his own counsel. I don't think
that they think that they could win on the merits
of the actual case. So I was thinking that might
be okay, but they needed to do it expeditiously like
they did with the ruling back when Nixon was you know,
it was either going to be impeached, thrown out, resigned.

(24:39):
You know, when all that Watergate stuff was going on,
I was thinking that they would hear it like within
the next week and make a decision by the end
of March. I'm making it up fantasy. I was completely
a fantasy. They're not even going to hear the case
until April twenty second, and all we can hope is
that they make some sort of decision fairly quickly. I'm

(25:02):
hoping they're not going to drag it out so that
this case doesn't go because you know, Biden could do
anything then, right, it's only while you're in office, but
Biden could do something horrific, and he could just say, oh,
I got immunity.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Well here's the killer. I don't think I don't even
think we have hit the precipice of all the charges
that are going to come up against Donald Trump. The
crimes that he had, the ninety one and federal indictment charges,
I mean federal charges that he has now won't even
come close to what we don't know. And I believe
there's a lot more that we don't know that happened
while he was the sitting president of these United States,

(25:40):
because they give it to us in in doses. So
I don't even think that we know. But I'm telling you,
when it does come out if they give him full community.
But his words that he said, thank you miss La
fay Kahn, who said that he was the most transparent
person on the planet. He said that I could shoot
so many years ago, he said, I could shoot somebody
Fifth Avenue and nothing would happen to me. It is

(26:02):
really starting to look like that body. It really is
starting to look like that. Well.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I hope to God that they come back with the
right decision. As I said, my big fear is I
want them to do it time. I want them to
be fair flame and to do it timely so that
everything else can push on, because the Jack's case is
really the case that it's the only one anyone's interested.
Nobody cares about the hush money. Nobody cares about you know,
it's it's so long ago and whatever. But that one is,

(26:31):
to me, that's an important one. And they're also doing
one on free speech about what social media can put out,
so I'll be interested. I'd rather than put that on
hold and do Trump's case, but it'll be interesting to
say what happens with that one.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
You say his name three times? Let me go to
out of space. Can we talk about the Odysseus.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Say that, Yeah, that's it is.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
It just did it.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Hey, they were up there. It's the first, the first
anything sent up to the moon in in like over
fifty years since the seventies. I don't know how much
they got. They got some pictures, but the one thing
that they did get was some frozen water, which is
remember I kept saying, I don't know what the benefit
of this is, because there's always a benefit, there's always

(27:18):
I know that they put they brought a bunch of
hardware up there too, in some of the high hardware
like titanium, and there's like all sorts of things we
get from space. Like they go and they do something,
we find find out, oh yeah you can you can
use it for that, and then we take that technology
and we come we kind of improve it. So it
will be interesting to see what they do with the water.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Well, personally, I think that this is so audious. Odysseus
was drunk because as soon as they're landed, it turned
over on its side. I think it had been in
my edibles.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
I hope it was putting up a cell phone tower.
Wouldn't that be nice so that I don't lose out.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
I don't know what they're trying to find out there.
You know, they keeps holling. They want to live there,
they want to live they want to make an atmosphere,
y'all to stay up out of there. I listen, listen,
ET went home, and Et was nice. But I bet
you them brothers that he is was probably a mother
hubb Ooh. I don't know, Bobby, I'm sure, and I
love that the mankind was created to want to explore

(28:18):
and want to know more and want to, you know,
find things out. But some things I don't know if
I want to know body, no, I.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Mean if it's medical advantages and stuff like you know,
something that keeps popping in my mind. I feel so
badly for is that well, Wendy Williams with the dementia,
Like if you can get if you can make medical
advantage advances based on whatever you can get up there,
or whatever you could get actually just in space, not
necessarily on the moon while they were there, I think

(28:47):
that's terrific. I am not. I am like you, I
am not going to watch that special because I feel
like she's being taken advantage of and I don't know
who benefits flame, like who gets the mind like I
just don't get it. Somebody was saying to me, you
know that she she got to be the executive producer.
I'm like, I don't know if she knows her name.

(29:08):
She still thinks it's her ex husband's name. Like, so,
is she really executive producing something that could just be
a title they gave her?

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I feel bad. By God, bless her. She was a force.
I mean she for ten or so years, she was
like a total household name.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Oh, Queen of Queen of Daytime, the show, Queen of
all the Mess. But you know, yep, And some people
will say it was her calm or some people say,
but you never know what's going to happen to you
in this life, and that's just the truth. You just
live each day and hope that every day this or
that can be better. But you don't never know what's
gonna happen. But I don't want to see it because
I want my fond memories of Wendy cutting up and

(29:46):
reading and gossiping, you know, because at that time when
she was that queen, I enjoyed it. So I don't
want to see her like this. I've seen some clips
on ex Bobby and oh my god, she's she's not unrecognizable,
but the person that I knew is unrecognizable. That's what
I want to say.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
But nobody's home, you.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Know, and the life ain't on. Somebody's there, but ain't
no life on. But somebody is there, but the ain't
no life.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
And and there but for the grace of God, you know,
because you can get early on set Alzheimer's, you can
get anything. So I wish are the best. And I
hoped God whoever is taking care of her is actually
taking care of her.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
They have her in a safe place, and it seems
like it's very messy everything that's going on right now.
So I wish her all the best. Did you hear
Trump is selling sneakers?

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Ooh, they're gold.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
They look like what Sophia from The Golden Girls came
out with one day. I don't know what they the ugliest,
the ugliest sneakers, but I guess Fat Joe bought a pair,
and everybody's all up in arms. I don't know why
he's bragging on them, but.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
He said he was. He said he was the sneaker collector,
but he was never going to wear them. My issue
with the whole situation why I talk about it, and
it's still supporting the plight. But and I get that
if you the bottom on the low, you could have
kept them on the low. But the Internet has made
so many different people and so many different types of
people seek attention, and it's almost intoxicating the way they

(31:19):
I need some likes, I need some attention. I need
to be validated. I need to prove to people that
this person likes me, and I can get this many
people to watch me, and it is almost mind boggling. Bobby,
But I to me that and know this that hat Joe,
But that's supporting something that you say you're not against.
That you're against. So if you're not going to wear

(31:39):
and what was the purpose of buying them? Yeah, they
may become collectives items, but to whom other supporters of
the same person that you won't vote for. Yeah, the
logic don't make sense to me.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Well, it's bizarre. And he also the little clip because
they only show you the clickbait like that comes on
your Instagram or whatever. But he said he didn't pay
for them, So then are you in the press of
the horrible comments that Fox News was saying that he's
trying to make black photos uh more identifiable to him
because they like sneakers? Is that what they is? That

(32:09):
what he was thinking? So they sent him a pair
of free There's no way I would have hawked those.
As you said, keep him on the low box and
put him in the in the closet if you think,
but don't talk about him no any Yeah, poor kid
will be who won't have the money, will be saving
because he got him. So they must be worth something, right,
I mean some of the comments that he's just coming

(32:32):
up with Trump is just I know that Alvin Bragg
wants to put a gag order on him. I'm like
he should just have a just universal gaggling like.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Anything. And and and here's the writing on the wild Bobby.
If you think that he is out out of control
with they hit him with a gag order before he
just he just he just ignored it. They have they've
hit him with all these charges and caught him, found him,
did to write guilty on so many things. If he
gets immunity, could you even possibly imagine.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
He'd be a monster, like like a real monster, because
he would he would get off. And Nikki Haley still running,
she lost she lost in her own state. She was
a two turner and she lost in her own state.
The only thing I was listening to them actually discussed
it on the View the other day and I said,
I thought that was sort of interesting, and they were
saying that this actually speaks to just the primary, the

(33:31):
fact that Nikki Healey actually got forty percent, it means
he's not going to bode well for the general election.
They had, you know, one of their talking heads that
were on, and I thought, oh, it's that kind of interesting.
I never even kind of thought it like that. But
I think she's hanging in just to get the spot
if he gets the rest, you know, like if something happens,
and she'll be, you know, standing in line.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Well, I did say before on this on this platform,
she was the more she talks, the worse she gets.
I think Nikki Haley had some great talking points, but
I think that she just I don't know. I think
that she got beside herself a little got a little
too moved a little too fast, that's the word I
want to say. And yeah, she just was she was
over talking herself and then on very important topics, especially

(34:16):
important to person a person like me. When it comes
down to the black issues and slavery. Whatever she missed.
She dropped the ball as opposed to saying, well, let's
let me get back to you of that or what
have you. And I know people wanted an answer, but
sometimes those spontaneous answers get you in way more trouble
than just saying let me get back to you, because
let me think about it, let me process it and

(34:38):
answer in a way that I would have everybody at
least with a cool temperament. I think she just.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
No, they dug it deep before. I mean, she came out.
She came out like a lion.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
She came out like a lion, but she going out
like a lit.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
She got lay up. That's like March right. So with
Alabama has the ID off. So they ruled that IVF
that the that the embryos are children, so, which is
really tough for parents because you know the ID your parent.
They have the IVF process, They fertilize the eggs. Some

(35:14):
of them are what they call viable and they save
those and others are not viable. They're out of poor quality.
They're not going to survive whatever, and they're not going
to be able to destroy them. So I don't know
if it's been since since removed, but all IVF is
sort of on pause. So all these poor women over
the past two months that have been pumping themselves full
of full of hormones aren't able right now to have

(35:37):
their IVF done in Alabama. And that said, the Attorney
General said he has no intention intensions of prosecuting IVF participants,
so I think they're sort of revisiting it anyway. Nicki
Haley came out and said she agrees with the ruling
dead embryos or children. And I'm thinking, Nikki, if you're
trying to get, if you're trying to get anybody that's

(35:57):
sort of like a moderate and not like the Mega right,
you just lost it and the independence. Not to me,
that wasn't the smartest thing that she could have said.
I think I would have just kept my mouth shut
with that one. Or again, I need to I need
to speak to get to speak to someone about the
science of it something.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah. That with that one, Bobby, though, I don't know,
I don't even know what to say about that because
they don't want to say something ridiculous like we're our
tadpolest fish. I mean our tadpost frogs.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
No, they're they're they're fertile, they're fertilized. They're already passed
the point. So that's the thing. And embryo is not
viable outside of anything outside of the tube. So if
if you and your partner had had your kids by
by IVF, are you supposed to carry around in a
test tube in the back of your refrigerator those embryos
for the rest of your life that that CONTs of

(36:49):
It's it just makes no sense to me, but it's
it's yeah, well, well we'll see where that goes. But
my god, if that that stuff starts to pass, we
all better look out because none of us are safe
with anything.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, it's it's it's whoa. It's like whoa, Bobby Clifford,
It's like, whoa, it is whoa.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
You know what this month is, it's this is the
last Tomorrow's leepy leap day. It's Black History Month. It's
going out. It's going out like a like a lion.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Wait a minute, tomorrow is tomorrow the twenty ninth, Yes,
it is okay, So February to twenty ninth, twenty sixteen,
doctor uh, doctor Terry de bro did my burst im plants.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Oh so they're only a couple of years old.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Then they're only a few years old.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
That's hysterical. So that's today.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Anniversary, right, It was the leap year, so I always
remember that, and he did fantastic work. If you guys
haven't seen that episode of Batch, it was a Father's
Day edition, go figure, so go watch it.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
That's hysterical. How long do person new planes last?

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Uh? Well, these new ones are supposed to last like
twelve to fifteen years, but I don't put that much
use to mass, so they might last a little longer.
I just care.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
I never thought about it. Somebody. I heard somebody say
that they have an expiration, Like, there's an expiration, Like
I just assumed you put them in and they sort
of lasted forever. I didn't know that unless you wanted
to go bigger.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Well, you change the air pressure and your tires. You
change your tires, so everything gets gets gets old. You know,
you gotta get them, and they get droopy and saggy,
they like they like regular boobs. They just you know,
fall by the wayside. All of that.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
You need an over the shoulder boulder holder. But I
chose for my black History month Tony Morrison, who was
born Chloe Anthony Wolford in nineteen thirty one. She was
ald surprise winner and a novelist and one of the
big things that she did was Beloved in nineteen eighty seven,

(39:06):
so she was pretty amazing. I've actually ordered the book.
I'm going to read the book because I had never
had it. I've heard it, talked about it a lot.
I've listened to the book, but I actually want to
read it in like write notes and all that jazz.
It was. It was like an American Civil War. It
was kind of cool. I think they had like a
ghost that was from the Civil War. They bought a
house or something. I'm interested to see it.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
My Black History choice for this month is late great
Paul Mooney. I'm going to have to say that, Oh,
I don't have to say that because Paul Mooney, who
was an American comedian who was very and did gregory.
Because I'm choosing comedians today because I'm a comedian, because
they were not only were their comedians, but they were

(39:50):
very powerful in the movement of a black black empowerment,
and not just in power, but equal rights for all.
And to remember that you were a black person in
this country. But Paul Mooney. I never met Dick Gregy.
I did see him one time at a show, but
I didn't get a chance to meet him. But I
listened to some of his stuff now. He was very,
very prolific, especially about the world that we live in now.

(40:13):
But Paul Mooney I met a few times, and he
was so funny, and he was always political. He was
always pointing out the differences in race, especially black people
and white people. But when I met him on the
first time, he told me. He says he saw me
on stage as a club called the Comedy Union, which
we no longer have, but I missed that club so much.
He says, I don't care who you on stage with, bitch,

(40:35):
they gonna always remember the sissy in the dress. And
he said it to me, just like that. Bobby. And
I told a girlfriend of man and she said, well
you offended. I said, not at all. That was a
great compliment. That was somebody you could give me exactly,
and some things out of the way you receive them
and not the way that people pour them into you,
because you looking for a challenge. I thought that made

(40:56):
He was saying to me that I made such a
statement that it did matter. If I was on say,
the greatest person in the world, I would always be remembered.
But and I say that point to say, as a
lot of these things, these distractions that you arguing over
the internet with, you invite yourselves to things that you
weren't even invited to. Y'all, we have to stop all
of this because it's getting ugly. But Paul Mooney was

(41:17):
a great comedian and so is the Gregory. So those
are my choices for the Black History the end of
Black History Month tomorrow. And uh yeah, I know laugh.
Aline is not a long episode tonight because we do
on the countdown how many more we have six or seven?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I think this is forty three so nine.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. We thank you guys.
Let me tell you something. If we lose this election
by one vote and you have chosen to do because
what have the Palestinians put on there? They have a
new thing called none something non commissioned vote that none
of that is relevant. None of that the third party.
And I understand that we should have a third party.

(41:56):
I understand that we want to have it. I'm with
that too, But we we are too close to a
finish line of not being able to make that work
between now and November fourth, that we have to. Our
only options are President Biden or ex President Trump. That
is the only options that we have right now, and
a vote for not either one of those is the

(42:16):
wrong vote because it's just a waste of time. If
you're going to take the time to vote, at least
vote for a relevant party. I'm not telling you who
to vote for. I would like for you to vote blue.
I'm just being very honest, but I cannot tell you
who to vote for. But if you vote for anything
else besides her It or the Blue, it's a waste
of your time in hours because the vote would just
go get discarded. And I know it does sound good

(42:39):
to say that, but that is just the actual truth.
And let's build back better. Ooh, come on your body,
let's build back better now. Put by my opinion, put
By back at the office for four more years. And
while he's in office day one, let's start pushing to
a the narrative to have a third.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
That's or no party or you know everybody, So have
everybody that's out there and they just run for president.
They don't have to be sides. They could just be
who's the best, who's the best for the job. And
I feel like this is my opinion. This is like
an opinion piece, you guys. I feel like this isn't
a red or blue this time. This is our do
you like democracy or do you not? It's because the

(43:26):
Republican candidate isn't. There were many candidates that would have
been more viable. Unfortunately they didn't make it. It's it's
former President Trump, and we already know he's told us
who he is. He shows us who he is. I mean, he,
as I said, just this last weekend, he had three
or four different racist comments. He's already said he's going

(43:48):
to get rid of the best NBC. That was the
latest thing, a little clip I heard of him. So
he's telling us who's going to be. So you either
want that or you want somebody who's got his nose
out down and doing the job. Does he look old, Yes,
the poor man he didn't age well with the last
three years. They'd better up on him. But he's still
doing the work.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
And to be fair, no president has. The only person
that looked exactly the same going in and coming out
was the president that did not do any of the work.
And that was President Trump because he ran on a
platform again of the border patrol. I'm building a wall.
Here we are eight years later, no wall. Tons of
immigrants still coming into the United States that everyone is against.

(44:32):
But but y'all, But that was his platform. That is
how he won, and he did not deliver. He will
not deliver again on anything but the bad stuff. He
will not deliver on any of the promises that he
is making.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
He's only going to be a dictator on day one
because he's going to get rid of everything else so
that he can be a dictator for all time. Doesn't
need any more than that, right, So he's telling us
who he is, and I don't think he's necessarily one
hundred percent stable. I'd like to see his with his
physical shows, because he make plenty of gaps himself.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
But I'm calling his wife the wrong name. I can
only imagine what he calls his children mercy.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
I'm like, was he did he see a car? Or
something like? What kind of gap was that? But we
do all make him. If he wasn't being so miserable
to Joe Biden, I wouldn't even talk about that because
we've all My Monna goes through all three of her
girls names until she gets the right one, you know,
every single time. And she's been doing that since their thirties.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
And to be very transparent. Love the I love the
showmanship of Trump. I love the ridiculousness of him on
a reality TV show, but not in his and not
in the head of the country, not in the White House,
not as the president of the United States. I just
don't think that he meets the criteria for that psident,
and neither do I. But I'm not running for president.

(45:49):
And there it is right there, y'all.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
No nor that do I want to. And I say, God,
bless the eighty one year old who's willing to do
fourteen to eighteen hour days and still do the work
because there was enough viable Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
President Obama looked went in and looking young and fresh,
came out up those good He.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Jogged up those stairs. I remember seeing him just even
a couple of months in and in his temple started
going white and he wasn't jogging anymore. He was gonna walk.
I'm like, oh, this is a lot harder than I thought,
because we walked into that horrible recession, right but anyway,
but that's it, folks.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
That's a very hard job, by the way, and it's
not a job that I won't even for a day.
They said, would you want to be president for a day?
Not even an hour? Not even an Hour's.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
A lot of responsibility on your shoulders. Everything you do
is wrong. You can never win. I talk with friends
who are on the other side, and I used to
be able to have a conversation. It's really my mom's
my mom's people, and they get themselves so wound up.
We can listen to the exact same speech and come
away with two totally different outcomes. And I'm like, did

(46:58):
you hear what they said? But no, yeah, so yeah,
I want to get away with that, you know, get
over that. I want that to end. I'm hoping, I'm hoping,
hopefully November the right thing will happen and the next
four months we can get some more work done.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Well, let's see, y'all. We we're down to the wire.
And it's very important and very imperative that you early vote,
to walk your vote in, just take the time to
do the responsibility of being an American citizen, because to me,
that is one of the main responsibilities of being American. Yeah,
we got freedom of speech and freedom to bear arms

(47:34):
and all of that, but your freedom to choose the
right to vote for the one that you feel is
best for you. For you, But I'm not right now.
I don't want you to speak individually. I want you
to think as a country, because that's what we're going
to lose. We're going to lose our country. I don't
want to lose my country, Bobby. They keep talking some
go back to where you came from with Bamian House

(47:55):
and New Zealand. Give me two million dollars and put
me on a nice cruise ship over there with all
and everything, and I'll go.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
I have no this is where I came from. I
wouldn't even know how to go over and and pertain
to pick an ireland that will be devastating to me.
I got the hands for it, though, Bigness. I'm a
catch in the old country. I'm a real catch.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Oh my god, Lady Emma, thank you guys for joining
us for this week's episode of Laughing Learn and again,
like always, we will never change the model here because
here are laugh Aline. We are not trying to get
you to change your mind. We are only trying to
get you to use your mind, because why, Bobby.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
The mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
And a vote is an even worse thing to wat.
And I'm telling you right now, all of you guys
who are talking about I don't like either one of
the candidates, well guess what. A whole lot of us
are not crazy about either one of these candidates. But
your responsibility for to choose because this is the America
that we live in. We have to make a choice
of who we're going to pick if we lose this presidency.

(48:57):
And I'm talking to the Democrats about one vote and
to people who did not vote because they say it's
not going to matter, you are the reason we lost.
We lost by your one vote.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
That's what it's going to come down to. I mean,
remember we have the electoral College. People, we need every
stinking vote that we can possibly get.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Yeah, because we're headed for ooh, a brick wall, and
they didn't build the other wall. But we damned your
headed for a brick wall because he didn't build that
other wall. So we headed to that wall. We won't
never hit nothing because that wall was never built.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Please, I'm going to be bashing my head on the wall.
If it goes the other way, let.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Me tell you, thank you guys for joining us. Listen.
I am in Chicago. I will be at the Chicago
That Factory March twenty ninth and thirtieth, which is a Friday,
and said to get your tickets on the website or
at the box office thirty one seventy five off Broadway.
I will be on a bunch of different media platforms
this Friday, which is the first It's Friday. The first.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Friday is Yes.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Friday is April first, seven o'clock am. I will be
on wgc I one on seven point five here in Chicago.
Then I'm doing Fox News, and then I'm doing ABC
without Warner. So you guys listening say best, thank you
so much for all the gratitude. You can follow Bobby
Clifford at Clifford Bobby on Instagram and at Bobby Clifford
on Facebook. And I am on Flave Monroe on all
social media platforms except for Instagram, My Monroe dot flame

(50:20):
until I get my old page back. We love you,
we appreciate you, we need you. And let me say
that we need you, and not only do we need you,
to support our podcast. But as American people, we need you.
We need you to step up, step out, step in,
step around, step on because this year is critical and

(50:40):
I mean that. I'm saying that with my whole heartfelt
heart because I'm afraid and I'm never afraid, but we
need you, Bobby Clifford, you and me. I heard you.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
I'm I know you need me. I'm gonna be there
with the bells on. I'll be jingling the whole way
good way into vote.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
I'm trying to vote in my man name in and
my woman naming. But he do it, I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
I could talk deep and I could go for a Bobby.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Bobby right, Thank you Aron Howard, our produc him for
giving us a fabulous another season, and we would talk
to you guys so on, peace out, good night, Bobby
c Bye, Honey.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
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