April 20, 2023 • 42 mins
Flame Monroe joined by resident Flamette Bobbi Clifford discuss the recent fatal wrong door and wrong driveway shootings, the lack of moral compass in today's world and much more. Tune in and comment in the socials below.
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Flame Flame. If you watch your coffee time the baby
you know the name Flame my bro also known as
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She raised shot towns on speaking to the grown a
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the end we leave it with just a lift you
spirits speak. You want to revisit so your first second listen,
young folks, so you slip, oh folks that we dig it. Hey,
(01:12):
no fish do what you do? Ca no this do
what you do?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Can't?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
No fish do what I do? No this.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Week, Hey, hey, hey, this is flam Monroe and welcome
to this week's episode of Laugh and Learn along with
my great producer mister Aaron and we got a special
guest co host today.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I bring me in at the Man.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
But right now I just want to tell you guys,
thank you for joining us. I am a little delayed.
It's been a week y'all. When I tell y'all from
last Thursday, the thirteenth, un two yesterday I can tell
you right now my life has been a roller coaster.
Rat I had. I was in a rental car that
had an electrical fire that burned up fans, my iPhone, uh,
some drags, some costumes, some gowns, some weeks, some other
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things that I will not mention that y'all ain't y'all
be It is my my panties.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
So but thank god, we were not in the car.
We were at an event.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
We were at Chris Spencer's one hour taping, which was fantastic,
and it just jeep Wrangler, Chrysler. You got to do better.
But you will do better because I got a trick
for your ass, so get ready for it. I can't
talk about it publicly, but y'all get y'all get the affidavia.
And then my daughter's out of control, found out we
have to move. We don't have to move out of
our house to another house. It's just a lot going
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on in the world, so in my personal life. But
I am here today, and I wish I was here
On a happy note, on a joyful note, I'm usually
a pretty pleasant person. But the world has become so
great and so dark than the last four or five
days so while it was happening to me personally, it
was also happening to America on a different level.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
When we're going to get to that, and I got my.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Very special guests, who I think is pertinent and very
important to have on this part of this conversation today
because she's a white woman and the experiences for her.
We're watching the same thing, but our experiences can be
very different. But in this situation, I don't know that
it's very different. It's just the situation were just different
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skin colors. So ladies, young, please help me. Welcome my
friend and yours Flayman for Life and one of my
smartest claimants, the one and only Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Why thanks for having me again.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
It's like fifty people screaming but they can't hear me. Yeah,
of course, how are you, Bobby? How's everything in Boston?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Everything is pretty good. We just had the We just
had the Boston Marathon. It was the ten year anniversary
of the bombing, so that was pretty emotional.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, it seems like only a couple of years ago
because it's still fresh.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
In my mind.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, it does, it is. It's so it's so triggering.
Netflix put out a pretty interesting three part docuseries that
I watched. I wasn't sure if I was going to.
In fact, I had to. I had to keep shutting
it off and getting it up and getting down because
it's amazing how much something can like trigger you or
make you nervous. Because we were really even though I
(04:30):
don't directly touch Boston, they had all of us. Governor
Patrick had us all in our houses with our doors locked.
You know, anybody within a twenty mile radius. It was
pretty It was pretty amazing. It was it was an
interesting docusaries if people are interested in it.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Crazy, yeah, I listen.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
First of all, I never wanted to run a marathon,
and after these bombings that at the Boston Minison, that
really deterred me.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I'm like, well it was enough. I didn't want to run,
but m I got to run and be shut up.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Oh I don't even want to get out of the
car and walk into stopping shop. I'm exhausted those little scooters.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, oh, I don't look. I don't even want to
be in the vicinity. Y'all run bike rad jump our
walk way. I gotta go jumped in my car. But Bobby,
you know what was so tragic about that.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That's ten years ago, and now we're experienced something that
with the n RA and these gun laws just not
being looked at, just being made an asterisk or footnote.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It has gotten out of control.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It's so many crazy shootings now for people accident to
mind you, these are accidentally going to the wrong addresses,
driving up in the wrong driveway, making them. And mind you,
sometimes it's not even our fault because we were right
down our era. We wrote down the richest because our
eraror me and Bobby was pre phone, pre internet, So
in order for somebody to give you directions, you had
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to write down turn left for this corner, turn right
at this landmark, turn turn right and left at this
streeting corner. But now GPS will send you directly to
where you want to go. Here's the issue. Sometimes GPS
is glitchy and will send you to the wrong get dress.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
They certainly will. Oh, they will send you over the
river and through the woods. I always put the fastest.
I'm like on the scene. I mean, it's absolutely crazy
where it has you go. Take a lot, one way,
take a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
They trying to control the whole world with AI, but
AI still is glitchy Ie that car that I was
in last week, my car is in the shop for
the exact same reason why they said my car was
not a limit, but then you gave me a rental
car that did the exact same thing. Mistakes happened, accidents happen,
but people dying because you accidentally weighing the wrong doorbell
or went to the wrong driveway. Do you know that
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a bone? Ladies Jehovah's Witness Girl, Scout cookies and trick
and treating are now a thing of the past, because
who's going to risk walking up to a stranger's home
and ringing the doorbell and facing murder or or maiming
or you know, paralysis or whatever. It is out of control,
and it has happened a couple of times this week.
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So I want to start with the young lady, twenty
year old young in upstate New York. Her name was
Kaylin Gillis. She was riding with friends. They were going
to a party. They pulled in the driver driveway of
man's home. He was on the porch, Kevin Monahan, that's
his name, correct, yep, and he shot and killed the girl.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
He's on the porch, she's in the car.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
No, the gauge shotgun with a twelve gage shotgun, like
not even like she was an animal.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
So do you know and do you know what kind
of damage a twelve gauge thus the hole that it
leaves in a body.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
She was so tiny From the few pictures we've seen,
she looks like if she weighed one hundred pounds silk
and wet, you know that would have I can't even
imagine he got off and just shot started shooting at
the car. These poor kids flame. I think of how
panicked they must be. They were an upstate New York
where the cell phone reception is so horrific that that
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they couldn't even get nine one one on the phone.
They had to go to the next town. By the
time they got to the next town, when they called
nine one one, they had the paramedics meet him and
they pronounced the poor baby dad right there in the car.
Can you imagine now he has been he has been
uh charged with second to remurder. But it's not going
to bring that mother's baby back.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's not going to bring the person who was drug
because she was a passenger.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
She wasn't even the driver. Imagine sitting with your friends
in the carbaby and you watch one of your friends
get the light blown out of it. Oh my god,
the damage that I've done to the other people in
the car will go on forever.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, yeah, I kind of even.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I mean, it's mind boggling. I'm glad they charged him.
I don't think he should have been charged with second
degree murdered. I think he should have been charged with
first degree murder. She hadn't got out the car. She
technically she was on his property, but she was in
a passenger in the car with the driver. Not that
I'm phoning the driver. But this is why the gun
laws need. This is why and I already need to
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have some control of the gun laws. But at this
point you're never going to get all the guns from people.
People have arsenals. We discussed that before on here. It
is too And you were telling me the most disturbing
story i'd heard about somebody that said had two year
old had a gun.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, that's what she was on. I think it was
the Chris Formo show who she calls in and she said, well,
I've already got my two year olds. You probably know
the weapon some hand done, and she already had a
shotgun to get them started. I'm like, started for what.
I didn't even let my kid play with just just
any type of playgun because I didn't want to remember
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picking something up and you know, thinking he pointed at
somebody and harm them in case it was a BB gun,
put somebody's eye out or whatnot. The crazy thing about
New York is they don't even have the stand your
ground laws they have. They have a very broad version
of I don't know, duty to retreat. I believe that
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calls when you you know, you think you're in trouble,
you remove yourself. So this guy, I don't know what
he's going to go on, you know what he's going
to try to And you actually had a very good
point where just popped in my head is you shouldn't
be second agree murder. Maybe not because if you were
sitting on the porch with a gun waiting for somebody,
that's a plan.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Right, You're sitting on your porch.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
You didn't go in the house to get the gun
because and not according to the report, you were already
sitting on the porch, but the gun you you were
waiting for something to happen. So they can go down. Now,
here's the thing, both Caucasian. But the other story where
the black guy was killed with the white We're gonna
get to that story. We you know, this guy's only
charge with I think he charged with third degree mans
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slaughter and something else with more charges may be pinning
because it's going to be attempted murder because the young
man's have added.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Well, we'll get to that story down the line.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, it is barbaric to me that these gun laws
have not changed, and it's happening more and more and
more accidents happened by b I have went at the
grocery store on the phone or just distracted, coming out
pushing my car, walked to a car that looked like
the car that I was driving at the time, and
had went to the door and actually pulled on the door,
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you know, and we're.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Like, oh my god, you have.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
The wrong damn car, you know, because most cars now
all you have to have is the key on your person.
And the doors were open, So I'm pulling and pulling
like what and so it looked like I'm trying to
break in because I'm pulling and pulling. But I didn't
pay attention that I met the wrong car. So many
cars look exactly alike.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I've done that myself. My mother reminded me of time
as a child, but I did it. Like twenty years ago,
we didn't necessarily lock our drawers as much. We didn't.
I mean, obviously we had violence and we had crime
and whatnot, but we didn't. I got all the way
in the car, seatbelt on, put the keys in, and
my key wouldn't go in, and I'm like, what in
the world. I just have a much to look in
the backseat and there was amends and unfortunately didn have
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a in my life at the time. There was a
man's baseball cap and I went, this isn't mine. So
I hopped out and I had no issue, which is
which is sort of what our next? Our next? Uh
said of the cheerleaders that you know, the next topic
is going to be the same type of thing that
happened to them.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
And they were at a great school, and uh where
was it in Texas? It was in oh.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Some private yeah, some some some cheerleaders.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, they went to the wrong car, young the wrong
car and got shot and oh my god, they didn't
break They weren't even trying to break here. And you
know when somebody is up to violence or up to
no good, they look on their face, they look in
their eyes. These were just young girls after practice went
them and they got shot and shot.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It is in the driver's sept and looked over and
there was a man in the car. And she must
have looked around and realized it wasn't her car, and
it hopped out well that her car. The man came up.
It was a Carlo Pedro Rodriguez, he's twenty five, came
up to their car. So she rolled the window down
to apologize to him, and he took He just went
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off with his handgun.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
And this is the climate of the world that we
live in. Not only is it is it anger or resentment,
it is fear. Everybody is afraid of everybody afraid. We're
afraid of kids because kids, especially in Chicago, my hometown,
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they jacking you at eleven and twelve years old at
the gas station. They're setting you up. They'll ask you
for some change, or they'll pull if you pull them
into park to go into the gas station or pull
the gas They'll pull in front of you and behind
you and a carra will pull it on the side
of you, so you can't get away. It is, Bobby,
It is so crazy right now in Alabama.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Just happened.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
This just happened in Alabama, four k on the fifteenth,
four kids were shot going a car in a car.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I'm sorry, Bobby. I just I have children, and when
I hear about kids, my kids age, I think that
could be my fucking kid. That could be one of
my kids. And I would not survive it. I think
I'm a strong person, but I would not survive something
like that. I don't believe happened to my My heart
couldn't take it because I'm over it. So going to
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hard because I'm not gonna make a long episode because
I'm feeling very emotional today. We're going to go to
Kansas City, Missouri. Sixteen year old Ralph y'all beautiful young man,
intelligent and smart and not not that any of that matters.
He could have been the worst kid on the planet.
He was still a sixteen year old kid went to
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the wrong house to meet his siblings and according to
the man who shot him, he said he rang the doorbell,
but a cod to the kid who is survived and
is still alive, thank you Jesus and coherent, and it's
on the road to recovery. He said, he never even
touched the door handle. He never got a chance to
ring the doorbell. As soon as he hit the porch,
eighty four year old Andrew Lester shot him in the
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head one time and then shot him in the arm
the second time. Bobby, that is so unfathomable to me
that you couldn't call the police. You couldn't say get
away from my door. You wasn't in the house. You
were just on the porch. And the sad part to me,
as a black person in this country, because the Constitution
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made us as black people only three fifths of a person,
I don't think that Andrew Lester saw that this kid
looked like a ten, eleven, twelve year old kid. In
the face. All he saw was the color black. And
he shot not once, and the first shot landed in
his head. That wasn't enough. He had to shoot him again.
The saddest part of that whole story to me, Bobby,
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was the boy ran off and ran to two neighbors'
homes that denied him. So that whole little neighborhood, at
least the surrounding area. Thing like they all had the
same mindset of how they thought. It was the third
person's house that he went to. He made it to
three people's house after being shot twice, once in a
head and the person who he laid on the ground
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bleeding and dad, the lady thought that he was dead.
That's why she called because I'm not even sure if
she would have tried to help him. He was still
like he passed out, so she thought he was dead.
Bobby white Man, black boy. He's out of bond. He's
out on bond for two hundred thousand dollars. I don't
know what his financial situation is, but I do know
that that is a different level of racism in that
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age demographic. Let me say this, and say this clearly
famous because y'all know I'm fair and you know i'm
a give I'm not giving him a pass, but I
want to see the whole picture. That age demographic is
a different level of racism than our age demographic from
fifty to sixty. That one was eighty. They grew grew
up in a whole different mindset. That's not to say
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that what he did was right at all, but damn,
you couldn't have called now one one, you couldn't have
called the police. But when they don't see a person,
they only see a color. That is where we are
right now. I want them to take everything from this man.
I want them to take everything that he has worked
for his entire life, his home, his savings, his PINCHI
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and everything, because I just don't think it's right. He's
out of jail on two hundred thousand dollars a bund.
Do I think anything is going to happen to him?
I think because he's he's that old, he's that old
racist in that demographic, that he would die before going
to jail. That that is my take on it. That
is how I feel. But I want to hear from
This is important to me by because you, as a
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white woman, I want you to be very honest with
us and tell us what you see and what you feel.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Oh. I think it completely has to be racism. I
mean because to me that can't you look at a kid.
He was the slightest, little wispful of I don't know
how tall. I know that Lester said he looked out
and thought thought he star six foot tall man. But
that doesn't mean the kid's actually six foot tall I'd
be interested to see how tall he was. He also
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looked like a little kid. And don't you ask first,
you don't bring a gun, you know, a gun out
without asking. Now they do have the standard ground in
the state that they were in, but you have to
feel threatened. He didn't threaten. He didn't try to break in,
he didn't break a lock, he didn't try to climb
in through a window. He didn't. He didn't do anything.
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And then to shoot him twice once he he's down
on the ground that that wasn't enough. They said that
the the boy said that. As he was running away,
he said, now, don't get you don't come around here
again like some old the Western movie or something. I don't.
I mean, I'm absolutely I can't believe it. He was
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has the two charges. One could have a life sentence,
the other one could be through three or fifteen years.
One was arms criminal action and then the other one
was selling assault. We'll see he should get something. I
don't care how old he is. If he did the crime,
you've got to do the time right. It's not fair
and he should be it should be fine or something.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well, you say he's he's gonna get a lifcensance. He's
eighty four, ain't gonna last much longer. And I'm sure
that might be like this, and I'm and I'm sure
the stress of this and that this will take a
toll on him, because you know, unless this is something
that he has regularly done. And I hate to say
it like that, but a lot of times they have
gotten away with this on numerous a case and so
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it's nothing. It's nothing to them. There is no no
what is the what is that when you're conscious? There
is no conscious. I'm like, I've done it before, I
got away with it. I'm gonna do it again. The
same way with make Bees down there in Georgia when
they killed Amad Aubrey. You know, that guy had been
a police officer for twenty plus years and there's no
man telling me he had gotten away with this. But
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it was so disheartened by me because he looked like
a young boy. I love the fact that his mom
brought him home immediately because what it showed to me
because he was home in like three days and he's
still in bad shape. But he's on the man that
if that area or if that part that neighborhood or
that town is racist where those neighbors would help him.
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Who knows who works in the hospital, who's affiliated with
this man he's eighty four. It could be a grandson
and niece, a nephew, a kid or whatever that wants
to say, Hey, we're looking out for him, So we're
going to do something to this kid while he's in
the hospital. So he could never testify, you know, I
don't know. I don't know, but I'm glad that he's
home safe because you never know who's affiliated with home.
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It's just safer for the young man. But by that
scary story, it's nine bogglen and I hate to think.
I hate to be such a conspiracy theorist to say, oh,
wouldn't nobody do nothing to him to in the hospital?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I watch Lifetime.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I watch all these crazy movies where you see people
doing things in the hospital. So if I didn't think
conspiracy theory before, y'all have shown it to me in movies,
so I would not think that it really does happen.
It had to come from somewhere. Your imagination is big,
but it had the story, had the basis of those
stories had to come from somewhere.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Well, you got to think flink when we were kids,
would it be a crazier story or something that would
be more far fetched than us sitting at our at
our desks doing our work and someone coming in with
an AK forty seven and shooting the school up. So
it's not the conspiracy theories. They might sound far fetched,
but that was far fetched to us as kids. But
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this is the reality that kids that are thirty and
younger have had to live with, you know, since Columbine
I had to live with. So no, it's not so
far fetched. And then me from the hospital side, I
already mentioned to you, I'm thrilled that he was home
because there's all sorts of infections in hospitals, so the
quicker's home health theory is and then the less chance
that he has for you know, becoming a more step.
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And then he got he got a call from the
White House, which I thought was great. I'm sure as
a young kid that would be like so exciting to me,
Joe Biden calling. I'm like, I'd love to see what
that conversation was, like.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I wanted to do I want to does Joe Biden
remember that conversation? That's the better question.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I don't know. I don't know, but he's been begging.
Joe Biden for years, has been begging for some sort
of gun control, right, So the more not that he
wants to see anybody get hurt. But I'm sure these
these cases help bolster you know, background checks and all
the different ways that you could. Actually you're not going
to take people's guns away, but how in the world
do we make it better? And I definitely think strict,
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more stringent background checks, especially for people that have been
met Yaliell. You know, if somebody was pink papered at
some point, you know of forceably put into the hospital.
I don't think they necessarily should be able to have
a gun. If a fella can't have it, then want
our legal gun. They shouldn't be able to have gun too.
I loved that his case is at actually being more
of a catapult. It brought up the cheerleader case, right,
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It's it's making us talk about all of the other
cases that are in the news recently. He got great support.
I mean I first started Viola Davis had it and
Sherry Shepherd both had it on their pages, and that's
where I first went. And all of a sudden it
kind of just unfolded from from.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
There and and they do have a go funding page.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
They raise the money for him and his family, you know,
for medical bios and meerical he's going to it's going
to be a long recovery. It's going to be a
long recovery.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Well certainly is because plains forget about the forget about
the physical aspect. You don't think this kid's going to
have mental health issues.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
The bank, Yeah, if he has fireworks, if he hears
the bank, it may it may send him.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
He's gonna need a lot of He's gonna need a
lot a lot of help. I was noticing as I
was trying to look up stuff about gun violence, the
BBC had statistics out that we're saying that there's a
rise in the standard ground states that they there's been
a rise in homicides of ten percent over the past
three years, which is sort of sort of a lot
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of alarming to see any type of any type of
increase it Also, I was noticing that a lot of
these constitutional carry states are the standard ground states. They
don't match up one for one, but they're pretty close.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
So, yes, he does have a GoFundMe page. Byby it
was created by his anti faith spoon more and at
to date, right now, Bobby, I'm looking at he has
They were looking for two point five million, he has
raised three point two hundred three point two million dollars
three point two hundred and seventy seven thousand and thirty
and thirty dollars. I'm going to donate. I am definitely
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going to donate because I want to be a part
of this, and I think it's just tragic that we
live in such a time and these are children. You know,
I'm fifty years old, so I know I'm past the
halfway point. Know I'm me and God are gonna be
face to face one day soon. I mean, I hope
he's previous me. I hope he's as pretty as me.
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Not pretty.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
But these are babies.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
We're worried about our and at our age, sixteen would
be a grand kid. I got a kid at sixteen
because I was a late bloomer, but sixteen will be
a grand kid. We don't want to We're already old,
worried about social security, medicare. You know, at fifty years old,
every day you wake up there's a new ailment. You know,
at this age, we may yawn and throw our back out,
stretch too hard and catch a Charlie Hord. You know
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you don't need those right, Okay, I don't need those
worries on top of my grains. Like you said, my
grand baby at church at school, baby go to the
corner market for me and get some milk and some bread,
and they never come back because some lunatic has come
up in here, just grown to the shot the place
up and my baby was just collateral damage because they
were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
We're gonna have to really keep our eyes on these
cases too, because you know the two the two standard
ground cases in the in the recent media where the
zimmern George Zimmerman and the Amount Aubrey Aubrey didn't work
for them. You know, they they all got life sentences.
But for George Zimmerman, he was acquitted of all crimes.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Which around and still walking.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Around, yeah, probably in his yellow vest.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Being Carson is over this case for for Ralph y'all,
So I hope that being and being Causon is usually
the man to go to to get these civil cases done.
You know, I know that the family should be should
be paid compensated fantastically, but that still will, like you
said about that will never change the fact that this man,
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who this young man will probably be damaged for the
rest of his life with PTSD.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah. No, it's crazy even the the you think of
young kids with guns. That they just arrested two kids
for that Alabama shooting that happened over the weekend at
the sweet sixteen party, and and it was a massacre.
That was like the best one news news media outlet
put put that it was a massacre, and my god, wasn't.
(27:13):
And I'm like, how does the sixteen and a seventeen
year old get guns? So we're back to the gun control.
There's gonna be there's gotta be a tighter way to
keep the guns from the kids. And if they got
them from the parents, there were two brothers, do we
charge the parents?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
No, you go right there, Bobby there, you go right.
You're gonna have to start charging these peers. And I
say that, and even though I know there is we
have access to some weaponry. That weaponry, but and I say,
and I'm saying that because what have you tauched your kids?
You know you don't you don't touch this. I don't care.
(27:49):
You start them at two up until twenty five. You
don't come and you don't touch this. If you get angry,
you come and tell me. But you don't touch some things,
you know. I think that the garing styles have changed
because these children are not afraid of their parents. In fact,
they challenge their parents. I'm living there right now. They
challenge their parents. We unfortunately were not. Unfortunately, we were
(28:12):
afraid of our parents and not afraid to ask or
not afraid to be around, but afraid to cross the
land in a respectful way. There was some level of
respect that we had as parents, as children to our parents.
I don't think that these kids, this generation, has that.
I think that they feel fearless, and they do shit
that they make them fearless and it ends up tragic
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and they don't understand that you may die, but you
break your mom and dad's heart, you break your siblings,
your grandparents' spirit and heart because and I'm not blaming
the kid, I'm blaming the situations of life.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, no, I don't. We definitely don't. My mother would
just give you a look. Well, she would put her
hands in assist and hold it down by her side.
So nobody else could see it, and we knew you
stepped your mind because there was the World bankings. You know,
we did things a little bit differently. I don't know
if we necessarily have to go back to the purporal
punishment of when you and I grew up, but I
(29:08):
think that there's probably a happy medium. You know, there
has to be consequences. You know, I look at teachers.
We've talked about this in past episodes. You know, we
have to worry about the social emotional well being of
a kids. Well, if a kid punches another kid in
the face, he should get suspended. There has to be
some sort of punishment so that doesn't do it again.
(29:28):
But when you say, oh, just go back in and
stay away from a little jimmy, pull little jimmy. Now
is to sit over there, you know, wetness pants, hoping
that the other one doesn't hit them again. You know,
there's got to be some I don't know, we have
to think about the way that they're raising the kids,
because we're not doing it right. We're not doing it
even we've talked about also not paying attention. Children have
(29:49):
to be more engaged, They have to be aware of
their surroundings. They all have an iPad or an iPhone
in their face at all times. They text each other
instead of just actually say hey, you want to go
for lunch? You know, texting it's silly. We've gotta we've
gotta do, got a little do a little bit better.
Somebody has to sit back and and I'm guilty of
it myself. I wanted my son to have more than
(30:09):
I had, and I think I did too much because
I didn't he didn't have to think about I want
those pants.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, well, we're all on we're all guilty of that
in our age demographics by because that was all of
our mindset. I want, I want, I want my kid
to have everything that I couldn't have. What we did
realize was that we were entitling them and spoiling the
hell out of them and damaging them. Because a lot
of these children are damaged because they want instant gratification
right now, right this moment. They don't want to work
for it, They have no patience to wait for it.
(30:36):
It is just out of control. And yeah, we can't
just blame them. My daughter, my sixteen year old daughter,
asked me yesterday, you don't even know anything about me?
What is my favorite color? It changes from week to week.
So I the last thing I remember it was a
orange and purple. No, that's not it. What is my
favorite food? That changes when we do. You can't fault
the pearance for that, because these young kids change their
(30:56):
minds from day to day, especially young girls. So I
felt bad, but then I realized, like, girl, you changed.
I didn't know you changed it. You didn't send me
an email.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Because if you ask too many questions, they think you're
grilling her. You know, Yeah, that's exactly it. So you know,
so maybe she's telling she's reaching out in a different way.
So maybe that's we have to listen to our kids,
not exactly what they're saying, but they need more time
with mom and dad, and we have to ask more questions,
and we have to put more parameters. You know, if
they're under eighteen, they still need things from you. So
(31:31):
you can hold those things back.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
It's not easy in my house. In my house, they
pass eighteen, they still need shit for me good, you know,
I know.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I mean I had a twelve year old at my
son's age, and I'm like, Jesus, I'm still picking up
your prescriptions.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
We want to send the prayers out to all the
victims of these ladies shooting, even and they're still having Meanwhile,
no mind you, mad shootings haven't stopped. They're still having
mass shoot But to these personal ones, these accidentally going
to the wrong homes, pulling up on the wrong driveway, Bobby,
people are so bitter, so angry, so afraid.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Because a lot of people are afraid. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
That that eighty four year old man was afraid. I
think that he knew exactly what he was doing. I
don't think that the sixty five year old man in
Upper State, New York was afraid. I think that they
knew what they were doing, and they don't know. I'm
not going to say that they said that they figured
they could get away with him, but I don't think
that it's their first time doing something like that. They
just seem too comfortable with it.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You don't go straight to shooting.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Especially the sixty five year olds. I'm with you on
that he could see them. You know, I don't know
he meant to kill them, but I certainly meant to
scare them. Something that just popped in my mind is
so eighty five and I'm thinking eighty five with a gun.
If I'm telling my mom who's in her late seventies,
that she really likely circle on the drain were driving.
(33:01):
You know, if they get to a certain age and
they need to start having they need to start to
be retested and whatnot. Maybe we should be doing that
with that's another gun control. After X age, you know,
our eyesight starts to go and stuff after whatever age
and mental acuity. I have people in my own family
to two of my aunts and uncles, their brother and
(33:22):
sister both have dementia. They should they have weapons? No,
I don't think Maybe they shouldn't have weapons. Maybe we
need to start pulling some of that stuff down.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
And what and what? What would this was a sixteen
year old black boy and a twenty year old white girl.
What Why wouldn't the warning shot have been enough? If
he would have shut there the shot gun in the air,
they would they would have pulled out and rolled away
from there. If the man would have shot that gun
through a window, his window, that boy would have ran
off the port.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
That's what makes it like, is this were.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
You trying to do this?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Did you want to do this?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Because there's so many other ways, even in that crucial moment,
I'm just want to scare you.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I don't want to hurt you.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Get off my porch, So shoot through the window, shoot
up in the air, you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Well, think of the girls and the cheerleaders. What were
they doing. She ran back to the car, got inside,
she lowered the windows, say I'm sorry, there's no standyard
ground there. He came after. He was the aggressor and
came after her. What was the point? And I think of,
like my son, you raised some of this public is
very sexist. But I always said, don't hit anybody. Don't
(34:27):
hit a girl. Ever, Like he had to go after
a little girl in a little costume that made him
feel like what more of a man?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Like?
Speaker 1 (34:34):
What was what was she doing that? He felt threatened?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
And with that and with that situation, he damn sure
did wrong because if she had the time to go
and get in her car and pulled up to his car,
he had time to think about it or pull off
with just he sat there. It's like I'm gonna do it?
Is it is mind boggling. I'm going to ask everybody
just to be safe. You don't know what's going to happen.
(34:58):
Stay prayed up, if you pray to whoever you pray to,
stay safe. And again, this episode I would like to
be called self preservation is the first lot of nature.
But how can you self preserve when you're a teenager.
You're not supposed to have a weapon, You're not supposed
you don't even you shouldn't even be thinking about dying
at fifteen to sixteen. You should be thinking about the
(35:19):
next dance, or the next girlfriend or boyfriend, or what
snacks I'm gonna have. But what I'm gonna do with
my friends this weekend, when we go to the mall
or to the movies. None of that is even safe anymore,
Bobby the word They always say, we're too old. No, unfortunately,
y'all too young. Y'all don't know why we ever feel
like to safely walk through a mall and shop, to
safely hang out, to go to lunch with your girlfriends
(35:40):
or your guy friends and play basketball on the basketball
court for fear of anything going down, and you don't
make it home to your family. It is, it is.
It is a situation that I hate that we have
to still talk about in twenty twenty three, And unfortunately,
it looks like it's going backwards instead of forwards. I
was never taught to walk backwards. I was only taught
to walk on.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
It's supposed to look for back when we were kids,
it was gang violence, right, So that's what you were
afraid of. Your kids were going out with the gangs.
These are gangs. These are adults that are coming after him.
Like again, what the cheerleader is with that? Rodriguez, he
was twenty five, He comes up, he shoots her. He
knew enough to run away and go home. They arrested
him as home he fled to see. It wasn't like
he stood around and took its consequences. So and I
(36:22):
even the sixty five year old guy that shot the
girl in the wrong driveway, he shot the car as
it was fleeing. He didn't come up and shoot it
like look in her eyes. So I mean, talk about
a coward. I don't know as a society. A for
a while I took a reprieve from from the news.
Only now I feel like I'm kind of out of
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it because it's so depressing. There's nothing. We're getting worse
and worse.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
And those those are very valid points by because they
can't use their mental illness. Because even the eighty four
year old man Andrew Lester, his neighbor tried to help
him clean up the damage that was done. So you
can't say that you're afraid or you exactly and he
ran away. If you try to clean it up, yes,
if you try to clean it up, then you knew
that you did wrong.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, because if the guy was really so, if he
really sought it, Let's even say he was mentally ill.
Let's say he did have some sort of dementia, right,
and he called the police. You would have left everything
so that the police could see the state and see
where he broke in or where he was doing whatever.
But he didn't do that. He tried to hide everything,
so he knew he did wrong. There was no dementia.
(37:27):
I don't think there was. He was terrified for himself,
not for the poor kid.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
The sad part is they have allowed this mental illness
to get away for so long that everybody used it
as a scapegoat, and it's just not working for everybody.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
It is.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Ladyesmen, I don't know what to tell y'all, but please
be careful, be safe, be cautious, because we just aren't.
We just don't know, but we have to watch this
case unfold. And I hope that this case is a
landmark breakthrough case. I hate that it happened to this
young man, but me and Bobie talked earlier.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
This young man's life has a purpose, and this may
have been purpose.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
God will make some changes hoping from this case, because
it gets worse. When every time you think it's you're
not gonna hear anything worse. Good God, two days later
it shows up. So be safe, be cautious. Thank you
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Speaker 1 (39:00):
He was a running man, Willy. He was setting the
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Speaker 3 (39:03):
Love of God, Bobby Cliff. I had never seen my
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Speaker 2 (39:11):
Was in print. Now, mind you.
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Because we forget, we forget that our minds we're still
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Speaker 3 (39:25):
I say, if you fall out now this laugh alone,
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I ain't no frame. But we have the.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
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Oh God, bless you, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
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Thank you for being a fair person and seeing people
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(01:12):
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what you do?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Can't?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
No fish do what I do? No this.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Week, Hey, hey, hey, this is flam Monroe and welcome
to this week's episode of Laugh and Learn along with
my great producer mister Aaron and we got a special
guest co host today.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I bring me in at the Man.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
But right now I just want to tell you guys,
thank you for joining us. I am a little delayed.
It's been a week y'all. When I tell y'all from
last Thursday, the thirteenth, un two yesterday I can tell
you right now my life has been a roller coaster.
Rat I had. I was in a rental car that
had an electrical fire that burned up fans, my iPhone, uh,
some drags, some costumes, some gowns, some weeks, some other
(02:14):
things that I will not mention that y'all ain't y'all
be It is my my panties.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
So but thank god, we were not in the car.
We were at an event.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
We were at Chris Spencer's one hour taping, which was fantastic,
and it just jeep Wrangler, Chrysler. You got to do better.
But you will do better because I got a trick
for your ass, so get ready for it. I can't
talk about it publicly, but y'all get y'all get the affidavia.
And then my daughter's out of control, found out we
have to move. We don't have to move out of
our house to another house. It's just a lot going
(02:46):
on in the world, so in my personal life. But
I am here today, and I wish I was here
On a happy note, on a joyful note, I'm usually
a pretty pleasant person. But the world has become so
great and so dark than the last four or five
days so while it was happening to me personally, it
was also happening to America on a different level.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
When we're going to get to that, and I got my.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Very special guests, who I think is pertinent and very
important to have on this part of this conversation today
because she's a white woman and the experiences for her.
We're watching the same thing, but our experiences can be
very different. But in this situation, I don't know that
it's very different. It's just the situation were just different
(03:28):
skin colors. So ladies, young, please help me. Welcome my
friend and yours Flayman for Life and one of my
smartest claimants, the one and only Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Why thanks for having me again.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
It's like fifty people screaming but they can't hear me. Yeah,
of course, how are you, Bobby? How's everything in Boston?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Everything is pretty good. We just had the We just
had the Boston Marathon. It was the ten year anniversary
of the bombing, so that was pretty emotional.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, it seems like only a couple of years ago
because it's still fresh.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
In my mind.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, it does, it is. It's so it's so triggering.
Netflix put out a pretty interesting three part docuseries that
I watched. I wasn't sure if I was going to.
In fact, I had to. I had to keep shutting
it off and getting it up and getting down because
it's amazing how much something can like trigger you or
make you nervous. Because we were really even though I
(04:30):
don't directly touch Boston, they had all of us. Governor
Patrick had us all in our houses with our doors locked.
You know, anybody within a twenty mile radius. It was
pretty It was pretty amazing. It was it was an
interesting docusaries if people are interested in it.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Crazy, yeah, I listen.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
First of all, I never wanted to run a marathon,
and after these bombings that at the Boston Minison, that
really deterred me.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I'm like, well it was enough. I didn't want to run,
but m I got to run and be shut up.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Oh I don't even want to get out of the
car and walk into stopping shop. I'm exhausted those little scooters.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, oh, I don't look. I don't even want to
be in the vicinity. Y'all run bike rad jump our
walk way. I gotta go jumped in my car. But Bobby,
you know what was so tragic about that.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That's ten years ago, and now we're experienced something that
with the n RA and these gun laws just not
being looked at, just being made an asterisk or footnote.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It has gotten out of control.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It's so many crazy shootings now for people accident to
mind you, these are accidentally going to the wrong addresses,
driving up in the wrong driveway, making them. And mind you,
sometimes it's not even our fault because we were right
down our era. We wrote down the richest because our
eraror me and Bobby was pre phone, pre internet, So
in order for somebody to give you directions, you had
(05:55):
to write down turn left for this corner, turn right
at this landmark, turn turn right and left at this
streeting corner. But now GPS will send you directly to
where you want to go. Here's the issue. Sometimes GPS
is glitchy and will send you to the wrong get dress.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
They certainly will. Oh, they will send you over the
river and through the woods. I always put the fastest.
I'm like on the scene. I mean, it's absolutely crazy
where it has you go. Take a lot, one way,
take a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
They trying to control the whole world with AI, but
AI still is glitchy Ie that car that I was
in last week, my car is in the shop for
the exact same reason why they said my car was
not a limit, but then you gave me a rental
car that did the exact same thing. Mistakes happened, accidents happen,
but people dying because you accidentally weighing the wrong doorbell
or went to the wrong driveway. Do you know that
(06:47):
a bone? Ladies Jehovah's Witness Girl, Scout cookies and trick
and treating are now a thing of the past, because
who's going to risk walking up to a stranger's home
and ringing the doorbell and facing murder or or maiming
or you know, paralysis or whatever. It is out of control,
and it has happened a couple of times this week.
(07:07):
So I want to start with the young lady, twenty
year old young in upstate New York. Her name was
Kaylin Gillis. She was riding with friends. They were going
to a party. They pulled in the driver driveway of
man's home. He was on the porch, Kevin Monahan, that's
his name, correct, yep, and he shot and killed the girl.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
He's on the porch, she's in the car.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
No, the gauge shotgun with a twelve gage shotgun, like
not even like she was an animal.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
So do you know and do you know what kind
of damage a twelve gauge thus the hole that it
leaves in a body.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
She was so tiny From the few pictures we've seen,
she looks like if she weighed one hundred pounds silk
and wet, you know that would have I can't even
imagine he got off and just shot started shooting at
the car. These poor kids flame. I think of how
panicked they must be. They were an upstate New York
where the cell phone reception is so horrific that that
(08:09):
they couldn't even get nine one one on the phone.
They had to go to the next town. By the
time they got to the next town, when they called
nine one one, they had the paramedics meet him and
they pronounced the poor baby dad right there in the car.
Can you imagine now he has been he has been
uh charged with second to remurder. But it's not going
to bring that mother's baby back.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's not going to bring the person who was drug
because she was a passenger.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
She wasn't even the driver. Imagine sitting with your friends
in the carbaby and you watch one of your friends
get the light blown out of it. Oh my god,
the damage that I've done to the other people in
the car will go on forever.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, yeah, I kind of even.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I mean, it's mind boggling. I'm glad they charged him.
I don't think he should have been charged with second
degree murdered. I think he should have been charged with
first degree murder. She hadn't got out the car. She
technically she was on his property, but she was in
a passenger in the car with the driver. Not that
I'm phoning the driver. But this is why the gun
laws need. This is why and I already need to
(09:10):
have some control of the gun laws. But at this
point you're never going to get all the guns from people.
People have arsenals. We discussed that before on here. It
is too And you were telling me the most disturbing
story i'd heard about somebody that said had two year
old had a gun.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, that's what she was on. I think it was
the Chris Formo show who she calls in and she said, well,
I've already got my two year olds. You probably know
the weapon some hand done, and she already had a
shotgun to get them started. I'm like, started for what.
I didn't even let my kid play with just just
any type of playgun because I didn't want to remember
(09:46):
picking something up and you know, thinking he pointed at
somebody and harm them in case it was a BB gun,
put somebody's eye out or whatnot. The crazy thing about
New York is they don't even have the stand your
ground laws they have. They have a very broad version
of I don't know, duty to retreat. I believe that
(10:07):
calls when you you know, you think you're in trouble,
you remove yourself. So this guy, I don't know what
he's going to go on, you know what he's going
to try to And you actually had a very good
point where just popped in my head is you shouldn't
be second agree murder. Maybe not because if you were
sitting on the porch with a gun waiting for somebody,
that's a plan.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Right, You're sitting on your porch.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
You didn't go in the house to get the gun
because and not according to the report, you were already
sitting on the porch, but the gun you you were
waiting for something to happen. So they can go down. Now,
here's the thing, both Caucasian. But the other story where
the black guy was killed with the white We're gonna
get to that story. We you know, this guy's only
charge with I think he charged with third degree mans
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slaughter and something else with more charges may be pinning
because it's going to be attempted murder because the young
man's have added.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Well, we'll get to that story down the line.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, it is barbaric to me that these gun laws
have not changed, and it's happening more and more and
more accidents happened by b I have went at the
grocery store on the phone or just distracted, coming out
pushing my car, walked to a car that looked like
the car that I was driving at the time, and
had went to the door and actually pulled on the door,
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you know, and we're.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Like, oh my god, you have.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
The wrong damn car, you know, because most cars now
all you have to have is the key on your person.
And the doors were open, So I'm pulling and pulling
like what and so it looked like I'm trying to
break in because I'm pulling and pulling. But I didn't
pay attention that I met the wrong car. So many
cars look exactly alike.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I've done that myself. My mother reminded me of time
as a child, but I did it. Like twenty years ago,
we didn't necessarily lock our drawers as much. We didn't.
I mean, obviously we had violence and we had crime
and whatnot, but we didn't. I got all the way
in the car, seatbelt on, put the keys in, and
my key wouldn't go in, and I'm like, what in
the world. I just have a much to look in
the backseat and there was amends and unfortunately didn have
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a in my life at the time. There was a
man's baseball cap and I went, this isn't mine. So
I hopped out and I had no issue, which is
which is sort of what our next? Our next? Uh
said of the cheerleaders that you know, the next topic
is going to be the same type of thing that
happened to them.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
And they were at a great school, and uh where
was it in Texas? It was in oh.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Some private yeah, some some some cheerleaders.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, they went to the wrong car, young the wrong
car and got shot and oh my god, they didn't
break They weren't even trying to break here. And you
know when somebody is up to violence or up to
no good, they look on their face, they look in
their eyes. These were just young girls after practice went
them and they got shot and shot.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It is in the driver's sept and looked over and
there was a man in the car. And she must
have looked around and realized it wasn't her car, and
it hopped out well that her car. The man came up.
It was a Carlo Pedro Rodriguez, he's twenty five, came
up to their car. So she rolled the window down
to apologize to him, and he took He just went
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off with his handgun.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
And this is the climate of the world that we
live in. Not only is it is it anger or resentment,
it is fear. Everybody is afraid of everybody afraid. We're
afraid of kids because kids, especially in Chicago, my hometown,
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they jacking you at eleven and twelve years old at
the gas station. They're setting you up. They'll ask you
for some change, or they'll pull if you pull them
into park to go into the gas station or pull
the gas They'll pull in front of you and behind
you and a carra will pull it on the side
of you, so you can't get away. It is, Bobby,
It is so crazy right now in Alabama.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Just happened.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
This just happened in Alabama, four k on the fifteenth,
four kids were shot going a car in a car.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I'm sorry, Bobby. I just I have children, and when
I hear about kids, my kids age, I think that
could be my fucking kid. That could be one of
my kids. And I would not survive it. I think
I'm a strong person, but I would not survive something
like that. I don't believe happened to my My heart
couldn't take it because I'm over it. So going to
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hard because I'm not gonna make a long episode because
I'm feeling very emotional today. We're going to go to
Kansas City, Missouri. Sixteen year old Ralph y'all beautiful young man,
intelligent and smart and not not that any of that matters.
He could have been the worst kid on the planet.
He was still a sixteen year old kid went to
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the wrong house to meet his siblings and according to
the man who shot him, he said he rang the doorbell,
but a cod to the kid who is survived and
is still alive, thank you Jesus and coherent, and it's
on the road to recovery. He said, he never even
touched the door handle. He never got a chance to
ring the doorbell. As soon as he hit the porch,
eighty four year old Andrew Lester shot him in the
(15:15):
head one time and then shot him in the arm
the second time. Bobby, that is so unfathomable to me
that you couldn't call the police. You couldn't say get
away from my door. You wasn't in the house. You
were just on the porch. And the sad part to me,
as a black person in this country, because the Constitution
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made us as black people only three fifths of a person,
I don't think that Andrew Lester saw that this kid
looked like a ten, eleven, twelve year old kid. In
the face. All he saw was the color black. And
he shot not once, and the first shot landed in
his head. That wasn't enough. He had to shoot him again.
The saddest part of that whole story to me, Bobby,
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was the boy ran off and ran to two neighbors'
homes that denied him. So that whole little neighborhood, at
least the surrounding area. Thing like they all had the
same mindset of how they thought. It was the third
person's house that he went to. He made it to
three people's house after being shot twice, once in a
head and the person who he laid on the ground
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bleeding and dad, the lady thought that he was dead.
That's why she called because I'm not even sure if
she would have tried to help him. He was still
like he passed out, so she thought he was dead.
Bobby white Man, black boy. He's out of bond. He's
out on bond for two hundred thousand dollars. I don't
know what his financial situation is, but I do know
that that is a different level of racism in that
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age demographic. Let me say this, and say this clearly
famous because y'all know I'm fair and you know i'm
a give I'm not giving him a pass, but I
want to see the whole picture. That age demographic is
a different level of racism than our age demographic from
fifty to sixty. That one was eighty. They grew grew
up in a whole different mindset. That's not to say
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that what he did was right at all, but damn,
you couldn't have called now one one, you couldn't have
called the police. But when they don't see a person,
they only see a color. That is where we are
right now. I want them to take everything from this man.
I want them to take everything that he has worked
for his entire life, his home, his savings, his PINCHI
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and everything, because I just don't think it's right. He's
out of jail on two hundred thousand dollars a bund.
Do I think anything is going to happen to him?
I think because he's he's that old, he's that old
racist in that demographic, that he would die before going
to jail. That that is my take on it. That
is how I feel. But I want to hear from
This is important to me by because you, as a
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white woman, I want you to be very honest with
us and tell us what you see and what you feel.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Oh. I think it completely has to be racism. I
mean because to me that can't you look at a kid.
He was the slightest, little wispful of I don't know
how tall. I know that Lester said he looked out
and thought thought he star six foot tall man. But
that doesn't mean the kid's actually six foot tall I'd
be interested to see how tall he was. He also
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looked like a little kid. And don't you ask first,
you don't bring a gun, you know, a gun out
without asking. Now they do have the standard ground in
the state that they were in, but you have to
feel threatened. He didn't threaten. He didn't try to break in,
he didn't break a lock, he didn't try to climb
in through a window. He didn't. He didn't do anything.
(18:32):
And then to shoot him twice once he he's down
on the ground that that wasn't enough. They said that
the the boy said that. As he was running away,
he said, now, don't get you don't come around here
again like some old the Western movie or something. I don't.
I mean, I'm absolutely I can't believe it. He was
(18:56):
has the two charges. One could have a life sentence,
the other one could be through three or fifteen years.
One was arms criminal action and then the other one
was selling assault. We'll see he should get something. I
don't care how old he is. If he did the crime,
you've got to do the time right. It's not fair
and he should be it should be fine or something.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well, you say he's he's gonna get a lifcensance. He's
eighty four, ain't gonna last much longer. And I'm sure
that might be like this, and I'm and I'm sure
the stress of this and that this will take a
toll on him, because you know, unless this is something
that he has regularly done. And I hate to say
it like that, but a lot of times they have
gotten away with this on numerous a case and so
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it's nothing. It's nothing to them. There is no no
what is the what is that when you're conscious? There
is no conscious. I'm like, I've done it before, I
got away with it. I'm gonna do it again. The
same way with make Bees down there in Georgia when
they killed Amad Aubrey. You know, that guy had been
a police officer for twenty plus years and there's no
man telling me he had gotten away with this. But
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it was so disheartened by me because he looked like
a young boy. I love the fact that his mom
brought him home immediately because what it showed to me
because he was home in like three days and he's
still in bad shape. But he's on the man that
if that area or if that part that neighborhood or
that town is racist where those neighbors would help him.
(20:22):
Who knows who works in the hospital, who's affiliated with
this man he's eighty four. It could be a grandson
and niece, a nephew, a kid or whatever that wants
to say, Hey, we're looking out for him, So we're
going to do something to this kid while he's in
the hospital. So he could never testify, you know, I
don't know. I don't know, but I'm glad that he's
home safe because you never know who's affiliated with home.
(20:45):
It's just safer for the young man. But by that
scary story, it's nine bogglen and I hate to think.
I hate to be such a conspiracy theorist to say, oh,
wouldn't nobody do nothing to him to in the hospital?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I watch Lifetime.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I watch all these crazy movies where you see people
doing things in the hospital. So if I didn't think
conspiracy theory before, y'all have shown it to me in movies,
so I would not think that it really does happen.
It had to come from somewhere. Your imagination is big,
but it had the story, had the basis of those
stories had to come from somewhere.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Well, you got to think flink when we were kids,
would it be a crazier story or something that would
be more far fetched than us sitting at our at
our desks doing our work and someone coming in with
an AK forty seven and shooting the school up. So
it's not the conspiracy theories. They might sound far fetched,
but that was far fetched to us as kids. But
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this is the reality that kids that are thirty and
younger have had to live with, you know, since Columbine
I had to live with. So no, it's not so
far fetched. And then me from the hospital side, I
already mentioned to you, I'm thrilled that he was home
because there's all sorts of infections in hospitals, so the
quicker's home health theory is and then the less chance
that he has for you know, becoming a more step.
(22:05):
And then he got he got a call from the
White House, which I thought was great. I'm sure as
a young kid that would be like so exciting to me,
Joe Biden calling. I'm like, I'd love to see what
that conversation was, like.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I wanted to do I want to does Joe Biden
remember that conversation? That's the better question.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I don't know. I don't know, but he's been begging.
Joe Biden for years, has been begging for some sort
of gun control, right, So the more not that he
wants to see anybody get hurt. But I'm sure these
these cases help bolster you know, background checks and all
the different ways that you could. Actually you're not going
to take people's guns away, but how in the world
do we make it better? And I definitely think strict,
(22:45):
more stringent background checks, especially for people that have been
met Yaliell. You know, if somebody was pink papered at
some point, you know of forceably put into the hospital.
I don't think they necessarily should be able to have
a gun. If a fella can't have it, then want
our legal gun. They shouldn't be able to have gun too.
I loved that his case is at actually being more
of a catapult. It brought up the cheerleader case, right,
(23:07):
It's it's making us talk about all of the other
cases that are in the news recently. He got great support.
I mean I first started Viola Davis had it and
Sherry Shepherd both had it on their pages, and that's
where I first went. And all of a sudden it
kind of just unfolded from from.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
There and and they do have a go funding page.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
They raise the money for him and his family, you know,
for medical bios and meerical he's going to it's going
to be a long recovery. It's going to be a
long recovery.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Well certainly is because plains forget about the forget about
the physical aspect. You don't think this kid's going to
have mental health issues.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
The bank, Yeah, if he has fireworks, if he hears
the bank, it may it may send him.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
He's gonna need a lot of He's gonna need a
lot a lot of help. I was noticing as I
was trying to look up stuff about gun violence, the
BBC had statistics out that we're saying that there's a
rise in the standard ground states that they there's been
a rise in homicides of ten percent over the past
three years, which is sort of sort of a lot
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of alarming to see any type of any type of
increase it Also, I was noticing that a lot of
these constitutional carry states are the standard ground states. They
don't match up one for one, but they're pretty close.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
So, yes, he does have a GoFundMe page. Byby it
was created by his anti faith spoon more and at
to date, right now, Bobby, I'm looking at he has
They were looking for two point five million, he has
raised three point two hundred three point two million dollars
three point two hundred and seventy seven thousand and thirty
and thirty dollars. I'm going to donate. I am definitely
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going to donate because I want to be a part
of this, and I think it's just tragic that we
live in such a time and these are children. You know,
I'm fifty years old, so I know I'm past the
halfway point. Know I'm me and God are gonna be
face to face one day soon. I mean, I hope
he's previous me. I hope he's as pretty as me.
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Not pretty.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
But these are babies.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
We're worried about our and at our age, sixteen would
be a grand kid. I got a kid at sixteen
because I was a late bloomer, but sixteen will be
a grand kid. We don't want to We're already old,
worried about social security, medicare. You know, at fifty years old,
every day you wake up there's a new ailment. You know,
at this age, we may yawn and throw our back out,
stretch too hard and catch a Charlie Hord. You know
(25:34):
you don't need those right, Okay, I don't need those
worries on top of my grains. Like you said, my
grand baby at church at school, baby go to the
corner market for me and get some milk and some bread,
and they never come back because some lunatic has come
up in here, just grown to the shot the place
up and my baby was just collateral damage because they
were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
We're gonna have to really keep our eyes on these
cases too, because you know the two the two standard
ground cases in the in the recent media where the
zimmern George Zimmerman and the Amount Aubrey Aubrey didn't work
for them. You know, they they all got life sentences.
But for George Zimmerman, he was acquitted of all crimes.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Which around and still walking.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Around, yeah, probably in his yellow vest.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Being Carson is over this case for for Ralph y'all,
So I hope that being and being Causon is usually
the man to go to to get these civil cases done.
You know, I know that the family should be should
be paid compensated fantastically, but that still will, like you
said about that will never change the fact that this man,
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who this young man will probably be damaged for the
rest of his life with PTSD.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah. No, it's crazy even the the you think of
young kids with guns. That they just arrested two kids
for that Alabama shooting that happened over the weekend at
the sweet sixteen party, and and it was a massacre.
That was like the best one news news media outlet
put put that it was a massacre, and my god, wasn't.
(27:13):
And I'm like, how does the sixteen and a seventeen
year old get guns? So we're back to the gun control.
There's gonna be there's gotta be a tighter way to
keep the guns from the kids. And if they got
them from the parents, there were two brothers, do we
charge the parents?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
No, you go right there, Bobby there, you go right.
You're gonna have to start charging these peers. And I
say that, and even though I know there is we
have access to some weaponry. That weaponry, but and I say,
and I'm saying that because what have you tauched your kids?
You know you don't you don't touch this. I don't care.
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You start them at two up until twenty five. You
don't come and you don't touch this. If you get angry,
you come and tell me. But you don't touch some things,
you know. I think that the garing styles have changed
because these children are not afraid of their parents. In fact,
they challenge their parents. I'm living there right now. They
challenge their parents. We unfortunately were not. Unfortunately, we were
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afraid of our parents and not afraid to ask or
not afraid to be around, but afraid to cross the
land in a respectful way. There was some level of
respect that we had as parents, as children to our parents.
I don't think that these kids, this generation, has that.
I think that they feel fearless, and they do shit
that they make them fearless and it ends up tragic
(28:32):
and they don't understand that you may die, but you
break your mom and dad's heart, you break your siblings,
your grandparents' spirit and heart because and I'm not blaming
the kid, I'm blaming the situations of life.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, no, I don't. We definitely don't. My mother would
just give you a look. Well, she would put her
hands in assist and hold it down by her side.
So nobody else could see it, and we knew you
stepped your mind because there was the World bankings. You know,
we did things a little bit differently. I don't know
if we necessarily have to go back to the purporal
punishment of when you and I grew up, but I
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think that there's probably a happy medium. You know, there
has to be consequences. You know, I look at teachers.
We've talked about this in past episodes. You know, we
have to worry about the social emotional well being of
a kids. Well, if a kid punches another kid in
the face, he should get suspended. There has to be
some sort of punishment so that doesn't do it again.
(29:28):
But when you say, oh, just go back in and
stay away from a little jimmy, pull little jimmy. Now
is to sit over there, you know, wetness pants, hoping
that the other one doesn't hit them again. You know,
there's got to be some I don't know, we have
to think about the way that they're raising the kids,
because we're not doing it right. We're not doing it
even we've talked about also not paying attention. Children have
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to be more engaged, They have to be aware of
their surroundings. They all have an iPad or an iPhone
in their face at all times. They text each other
instead of just actually say hey, you want to go
for lunch? You know, texting it's silly. We've gotta we've
gotta do, got a little do a little bit better.
Somebody has to sit back and and I'm guilty of
it myself. I wanted my son to have more than
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I had, and I think I did too much because
I didn't he didn't have to think about I want
those pants.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, well, we're all on we're all guilty of that
in our age demographics by because that was all of
our mindset. I want, I want, I want my kid
to have everything that I couldn't have. What we did
realize was that we were entitling them and spoiling the
hell out of them and damaging them. Because a lot
of these children are damaged because they want instant gratification
right now, right this moment. They don't want to work
for it, They have no patience to wait for it.
(30:36):
It is just out of control. And yeah, we can't
just blame them. My daughter, my sixteen year old daughter,
asked me yesterday, you don't even know anything about me?
What is my favorite color? It changes from week to week.
So I the last thing I remember it was a
orange and purple. No, that's not it. What is my
favorite food? That changes when we do. You can't fault
the pearance for that, because these young kids change their
(30:56):
minds from day to day, especially young girls. So I
felt bad, but then I realized, like, girl, you changed.
I didn't know you changed it. You didn't send me
an email.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Because if you ask too many questions, they think you're
grilling her. You know, Yeah, that's exactly it. So you know,
so maybe she's telling she's reaching out in a different way.
So maybe that's we have to listen to our kids,
not exactly what they're saying, but they need more time
with mom and dad, and we have to ask more questions,
and we have to put more parameters. You know, if
they're under eighteen, they still need things from you. So
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you can hold those things back.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
It's not easy in my house. In my house, they
pass eighteen, they still need shit for me good, you know,
I know.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I mean I had a twelve year old at my
son's age, and I'm like, Jesus, I'm still picking up
your prescriptions.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
We want to send the prayers out to all the
victims of these ladies shooting, even and they're still having Meanwhile,
no mind you, mad shootings haven't stopped. They're still having
mass shoot But to these personal ones, these accidentally going
to the wrong homes, pulling up on the wrong driveway, Bobby,
people are so bitter, so angry, so afraid.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Because a lot of people are afraid. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
That that eighty four year old man was afraid. I
think that he knew exactly what he was doing. I
don't think that the sixty five year old man in
Upper State, New York was afraid. I think that they
knew what they were doing, and they don't know. I'm
not going to say that they said that they figured
they could get away with him, but I don't think
that it's their first time doing something like that. They
just seem too comfortable with it.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You don't go straight to shooting.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Especially the sixty five year olds. I'm with you on
that he could see them. You know, I don't know
he meant to kill them, but I certainly meant to
scare them. Something that just popped in my mind is
so eighty five and I'm thinking eighty five with a gun.
If I'm telling my mom who's in her late seventies,
that she really likely circle on the drain were driving.
(33:01):
You know, if they get to a certain age and
they need to start having they need to start to
be retested and whatnot. Maybe we should be doing that
with that's another gun control. After X age, you know,
our eyesight starts to go and stuff after whatever age
and mental acuity. I have people in my own family
to two of my aunts and uncles, their brother and
(33:22):
sister both have dementia. They should they have weapons? No,
I don't think Maybe they shouldn't have weapons. Maybe we
need to start pulling some of that stuff down.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
And what and what? What would this was a sixteen
year old black boy and a twenty year old white girl.
What Why wouldn't the warning shot have been enough? If
he would have shut there the shot gun in the air,
they would they would have pulled out and rolled away
from there. If the man would have shot that gun
through a window, his window, that boy would have ran
off the port.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
That's what makes it like, is this were.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
You trying to do this?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Did you want to do this?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Because there's so many other ways, even in that crucial moment,
I'm just want to scare you.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I don't want to hurt you.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Get off my porch, So shoot through the window, shoot
up in the air, you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Well, think of the girls and the cheerleaders. What were
they doing. She ran back to the car, got inside,
she lowered the windows, say I'm sorry, there's no standyard
ground there. He came after. He was the aggressor and
came after her. What was the point? And I think of,
like my son, you raised some of this public is
very sexist. But I always said, don't hit anybody. Don't
(34:27):
hit a girl. Ever, Like he had to go after
a little girl in a little costume that made him
feel like what more of a man?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Like?
Speaker 1 (34:34):
What was what was she doing that? He felt threatened?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
And with that and with that situation, he damn sure
did wrong because if she had the time to go
and get in her car and pulled up to his car,
he had time to think about it or pull off
with just he sat there. It's like I'm gonna do it?
Is it is mind boggling. I'm going to ask everybody
just to be safe. You don't know what's going to happen.
(34:58):
Stay prayed up, if you pray to whoever you pray to,
stay safe. And again, this episode I would like to
be called self preservation is the first lot of nature.
But how can you self preserve when you're a teenager.
You're not supposed to have a weapon, You're not supposed
you don't even you shouldn't even be thinking about dying
at fifteen to sixteen. You should be thinking about the
(35:19):
next dance, or the next girlfriend or boyfriend, or what
snacks I'm gonna have. But what I'm gonna do with
my friends this weekend, when we go to the mall
or to the movies. None of that is even safe anymore,
Bobby the word They always say, we're too old. No, unfortunately,
y'all too young. Y'all don't know why we ever feel
like to safely walk through a mall and shop, to
safely hang out, to go to lunch with your girlfriends
(35:40):
or your guy friends and play basketball on the basketball
court for fear of anything going down, and you don't
make it home to your family. It is, it is.
It is a situation that I hate that we have
to still talk about in twenty twenty three, And unfortunately,
it looks like it's going backwards instead of forwards. I
was never taught to walk backwards. I was only taught
to walk on.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
It's supposed to look for back when we were kids,
it was gang violence, right, So that's what you were
afraid of. Your kids were going out with the gangs.
These are gangs. These are adults that are coming after him.
Like again, what the cheerleader is with that? Rodriguez, he
was twenty five, He comes up, he shoots her. He
knew enough to run away and go home. They arrested
him as home he fled to see. It wasn't like
he stood around and took its consequences. So and I
(36:22):
even the sixty five year old guy that shot the
girl in the wrong driveway, he shot the car as
it was fleeing. He didn't come up and shoot it
like look in her eyes. So I mean, talk about
a coward. I don't know as a society. A for
a while I took a reprieve from from the news.
Only now I feel like I'm kind of out of
(36:43):
it because it's so depressing. There's nothing. We're getting worse
and worse.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
And those those are very valid points by because they
can't use their mental illness. Because even the eighty four
year old man Andrew Lester, his neighbor tried to help
him clean up the damage that was done. So you
can't say that you're afraid or you exactly and he
ran away. If you try to clean it up, yes,
if you try to clean it up, then you knew
that you did wrong.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, because if the guy was really so, if he
really sought it, Let's even say he was mentally ill.
Let's say he did have some sort of dementia, right,
and he called the police. You would have left everything
so that the police could see the state and see
where he broke in or where he was doing whatever.
But he didn't do that. He tried to hide everything,
so he knew he did wrong. There was no dementia.
(37:27):
I don't think there was. He was terrified for himself,
not for the poor kid.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
The sad part is they have allowed this mental illness
to get away for so long that everybody used it
as a scapegoat, and it's just not working for everybody.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
It is.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Ladyesmen, I don't know what to tell y'all, but please
be careful, be safe, be cautious, because we just aren't.
We just don't know, but we have to watch this
case unfold. And I hope that this case is a
landmark breakthrough case. I hate that it happened to this
young man, but me and Bobie talked earlier.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
This young man's life has a purpose, and this may
have been purpose.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
God will make some changes hoping from this case, because
it gets worse. When every time you think it's you're
not gonna hear anything worse. Good God, two days later
it shows up. So be safe, be cautious. Thank you
for joining us here at Laughing, Learn and listen. May
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(38:24):
I don't know for sure today that y'all know. And
May fourth, I'm doing Sherry Sheppard Show Comedy Corner. We
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a kid, from musical chairs to dance contests to birthday
shoutouts at fifty years old, Come and get your come
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Speaker 1 (39:00):
He was a running man, Willy. He was setting the
Bobby Brown for the.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Love of God, Bobby Cliff. I had never seen my
co host do a vacclap. He took his two hundred
and sixty pound ass and did a backslip, and I.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Was in print. Now, mind you.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
I thought I was gonna have to give a mouthful
mouth off because.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Because we forget, we forget that our minds we're still
eighteen years old. And then all of a sudden your
body catches up and you're like, oh shit, excuse me.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
I say, if you fall out now this laugh alone,
you can do that. I can't pick your big ass up.
I ain't no frame. But we have the.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Most fun time. Y'all have to come out.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
It's on seven thirty every Monday night at the world
famous Hoby Wood laugh Actor. Come and get your life,
Come and get your joy. Thank you guys for joining
us here laughing, learn and here in laughing. We have
the same model that will never change. Here and laughing
that we are not trying to get you to change
your mind. We are only trying to get you to
use your mind, because the mind is a terrible thing
to waste. If you independently think for yourself, you don't
(39:57):
always won't always be agreed with, You might not always
be liked, but you will love that you made a
decision for yourself. You didn't allow anybody else to control
the puppet strings. I cut those strings a long time ago.
We appreciate you, Bobby Cliffin. I could not have done
the show where I can say my mind is all
over the place, but I appreciate you for your love,
your support. I appreciate you, Bobby for coming on as
(40:20):
a wonderful Irish woman and as white as you can
get with your blond hair and your black glasses, always
being fair and Bobby of every American that looked like you,
thought like you, and treated people like you. God, I
would love this country to live in and fightful.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Oh God, bless you, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
God, bless you, Bobby.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Thank you for being a fair person and seeing people
for people and not what you want them to be,
but for who they are. We appreciate you here. Thank
you Aaron, Thank you Flaymett. Thank you guys for supporting
us here Laughing Line. Please download, listen to us on Apple, Ieheart, Spotify,
and Amazon or wherever you listen to your podcast under
the Black Effect Network. This weekend in Atlanta, Georgia at
(41:04):
the Pullman Yards to show it sold out they are
having at Black Effect Festival.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Unfortunately I will not be there.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
I got another gig, but you guys go and show
support for my boy Charlamagne, the guy who's hosting along
with Jesse Hilarry's Horrible Decisions, who were there, Michelle Williams,
so many other podcasts. It's a great meeting, greed a hobknob.
It's a great place to sell your businesses and to
segue and interventions and all of that. So I look
(41:30):
forward to you guys telling me all about it next week,
because a bitch got a book and I'm going to
get my paper. But I thank you for joining us
here Laughing Learn. Thank you Ain. We will see you
guys next week. Be safe and in the words of TTG,
and keep your head on the swivel. This is Slay
Monroe and Bobby Clifford. Hey, don't miss an episode of
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