August 28, 2025 • 51 mins
Flame Monroe and co-host Bobbi Clifford confront urgent issues shaping America today—gun violence, mental health, and the political landscape. They reflect on a recent mass shooting, calling for stronger mental health support and gun control reform, while also examining the influence of public figures like Snoop Dogg in navigating societal challenges. They highlight the weight of racism, the power of politics, and the critical role of judges and state leaders in shaping policy. The episode closes with a call for meaningful dialogue and collective action. Tune in and comment in the socials below.
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This is comedian slay My Roe. And welcome to this
week's episode of Latin Learn, Ladies and gentlemen. As you
heard big Mouth from the bag, Welcome me, pleased, meet
and greet my co host Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Say hello Bobby, Hello, how you touch?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Always wasted a countdown inside running her damn mouth? She
does this every week by me. How was your week?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
My week is?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
It is gorgeous in Boston, right, now seventies, cool, breezy,
low humidity, just like it, like heaven. So I have
been sucking up and soaking up the last of the summer.
You know, we just went back to school. We go
back to school right now Wednesday today, the twenty seventh,
and I so summer is, even though it's not over
(02:24):
for a month, it's sort of over. So I've been
trying to soak up as much as I can get.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Just beautiful. How about you? You were busy. You had
a big show last week.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I worked in Pittsburgh. I wanted to give a big
shout out to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, to Derek mccant's Cash Show
and his partner, his husband Bunsdale Life, for putting on
such a fabulous show. To all the ladies behind the
scenes that are part of the show. Thank you, guys
so much. To Miss Kim who owns Spotlight Costumes in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
(02:55):
If you're ever there, she has anything that you want
from so many periods, connecting costumes for forty years. Beautiful though.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
We're in with that Viking hat I walked.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I wanted to steal that Viking hat, Bobbie. I love
that biking hat. But she was the nicest lady. She said,
all been night products and it was just like they
brought Broadway to Pittsburgh at the it was called the
Carnegie Free Library or something. We had a grand time.
This was year or two. It was a beautiful event.
All the people were so pleasant. My fat ass felled twice.
I'm not gonna even lie. The stage was slippery, and
(03:29):
I'm not as slimm as I used to be. Good God,
I failed twice, but I had a great time. The
people were wonderful. I talked about our podcast and speaking
about our podcast, No, we did not take last week,
but we're gonna try to make up for it this
week because there's so much happening in the news, and
I'm not gonna start off with death. We're gonna start
off with what happened today, which was a terrible man
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shooting in Minnesota at a private Catholic school. Mind you,
Bobbie will tell you all the name and the details,
and the children were on their knees praying. And this coward,
because that's exactly what it is. Yes, he had mental issues,
but he was a coward, got through the window, shot
through the window to shoot at these people. Dreed seventeen,
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kill two. It is so barbaric out here that people
are brother so much pressure and don't understand that there's
no way out because people don't have anyone to talk to,
because a lot of fundings have been cut in order
to call to have someone to talk to. But nevertheless, Bobby,
and then it comes out on the news that this
person identifies as trance. If we don't have enough shit on,
(04:36):
if we're not under the microscope enough, under this grit,
under this administration, this is definitely something that we do
not need. But my theory is it was a distraction,
anything to look away from those fiting files.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
What say you, Bobby, I said, so the gunman's gun woman,
because this person identifies as trans Robin Westman, I mean
on no license and everything, so they are doing whatever
they're doing.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Trans I don't think has anything to do with it.
I think when you're disturbed, you're a disturbed person, just
like I've said to you, when you're an asshole, you're
an asshole. When you're disturbed, you're disturbed. You'd have to be.
We have found this so limited information. We did find
that the gun person's mom was the parish secretary up
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until twenty twenty one and retired from the position. So
I don't know if it's more about that there's some
sort of push pull going on with the mom and
try to hurt your you know, the mom.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
But why you.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Would go to when these little kids are in at
the Catholic school or in their little uniforms, sitting in
the in the pews, and the only other people who
go to those masses of the elderly, I mean, that
is the most vulnerable group. Why you would go in
and start shooting into windows, kill two babies, an eight
year olds and a ten year old, injured seventeen others.
(05:56):
I am told that the gun rin is believed to
be dead.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I don't have any I con't at that on the
few articles that I'm seeing. I'm sure other people are
reporting that have better.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, they say they say they reported that he killed himselves,
so that's why they called themselves.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Okay, yeah, all right, yeah, I don't We've got to
pay attention and this and these are really crazy acts.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I don't want people to be so paran right, I.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Don't even want them to put the emphasis on that
he was trans because when they went and raided his
home and some people that he was affiliated his failing
in his home, there were weapons everywhere, and all the
weapons that he had had anti Semitic writings on them.
So he was not only did he hate himself, but
he had he was full of rage for so many
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other different kinds of things. He was a madman, Bobby,
he was. He was a mad man. I'm not even
claiming him. He was a mad man.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, no, he I think she she It was, you know,
kind of a boat with no no port. It clearly
tried to fit into a group. I mean, this is
how sometimes cults can get a hold of people too,
because they're so desperate and want to feel like they
fit somewhere or whatever. But this wasn't This wasn't it.
This wasn't the this wasn't the hill to die on.
(07:12):
This was a coward, isn't even I mean, these aren't
people that you even now if you gave every one
of those children and the elderly people, the people who
were in church a gun and said all right now
I'm going to fight you, but two there were fish
in a barrel. I mean, I can't think of any
better expression than that they had nowhere to go. The
only good thing that I heard that came out about
this story. I was listening to c and earlier I
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was running some errands, so I was listening to it
on the news, and they had There was an older
gentleman that had gone to the school when he was
a kid. I think he was like mid seventies, raised
his children in the school, and his grandchildren don't go
to this school, but go to a Catholic school. He
heard the gunshots. At first, he wasn't sure what they were,
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and then he actually ran towards the church. He said,
it was actually outraged. I just I knew what it was.
After about the tenth shot, you knew that something was
going on, and he thought, he said, I thought maybe
I could help. So he got three of the kids.
He got a child that probably just had like a
grazing in the arm, one that was shot in the head,
but he said wasn't bleeding and they were talking. And
(08:17):
another one that said they were shot that was shot
in the neck, and uh, he kind of kept them
calm and he kept them safe with him, and he
was so we did probably have We're gonna hear some nice,
brave stories, although we didn't want them, he said. The
kids were brave like the little boy he said, was yes, sir, No, sir,
I'm not scared. I'm okay. I'll stay with you. He
was able to call their parents and get the parents
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down there. I don't know if he ever he didn't
say if he ever called ninety one one. But we
had some We had people who were rising to the occasion,
and that's what we have to do, he said. This
is what the country needs to get back to. He's
in the middle of a disaster, he said, helping each other.
That's all we're here for, is to help each other.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Bibby, you're a parent, do you know how traumatized?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I can't even imagine to be.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yes with the tragedy of it all. But you got
to understand that just like the ones that die, it's
the ones that live, and these are children that have
to live with Dodger bullis. It's such a different time. Okay.
I'm telling my age from when Lee and Bobby were children,
because we the worst we had to worry about was
a fifth like this at three fifteen, or a little bullying,
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or maybe we had to get an earthquake one and
every once every two years or something. But this is
getting hiding from gunmen shoes, schools getting shot up. I
don't know that. I know the times have changed, but
that this much and then it's just like tomorrow will
be like, yeah, they had another one. It's not even this.
(09:46):
In our sanitized this would have went on, been on
the news for two years.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It would have been all, yeah, there are so many
and so many shootings. So you know the one thing
that I have not heard, and I'll be interested. Of course,
it's not in time for this coming out. I'm curious
to see the White House other than other than Nome
saying it's a deranged murderer. Of course you would, but
I'm interested to see what the inner sanctum the administration
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is going to come out.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
What are they going to do. They're not going to
touch those guns.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Why was somebody that obviously was clearly mentally ill able
to have as?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
They want to shift it and they're going to weapon
as This is going to be one of those plots.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I agree with you, Yeah, I never would have done
that before, but but absolutely they're going to try to
Absolutely they're going to try to to glom on tom
onto that. But I mean, this is oh my God,
my hot wrenches. So those kids, Jesus, they don't want
to be in church to begin with. For the love
of God. Now you go to church and there's a
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chance that something could happen to you, I I just can't.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, well, it's not like we haven't heard this something
like this before. Because Dylan Ruth went up to the
church with the name black people with him. After they
prayed with him for forty five minutes, he had no
prayer in his heart. He shout and killed all of them.
So I'm I don't know what is happening with the
anger and the rage in our country, Bobby, but it
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is so scary and you just never know where you're
going to be. Everybody, please be conscious and be aware
if we all get weapons and it's just going to
be a shootout. But somebody needs to learn how to
talk to somebody to bring them down to like, listen,
do you need a hug? You're beautiful? Do you need
do you need something to eat? I don't know, Bobby,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I go, I'll help you.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
You know, this is part of what defund the police
when when that was coming about. It wasn't that you
want to take money away from the police. You want
to restructure it. You want to make sure the police
there are enough of them on that they're properly vetted.
You want to make sure that I think on every
shift there should be at least one social worker that
could potentially, you know, come and help. You know, I
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don't in the in the the case of it actually happening, unfortunately,
you're not going to get that is social work. You've
missed the mark on this one. But maybe if there
was somebody readily available that this Westmond could have gone to,
I don't know, maybe they would have been able to help.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
But we need to do we need to do something.
We need to be able to control the guns and
if you've got mental illness, clearly make sure that they
don't have access to guns.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
The Republican the GOP is not going to do that
because they are all for their gun rights. They want
to be able to carry their guns and everybody. Everything
else is collateral damage. And Bobby, I'm trying. It's not
going to shake it up until it shakes them up.
But the but unfortunately or fortunately for them, unfortunately for
you know, unfortunately for their children. They got their kids
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in guarded schools. They got their kids in places where
they are completely protected, certain won't experience stuff like this.
Everybody can't afford it. Everybody has not afforded their luxury
in life. It's crazy, Bobby.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And then you get a parochial school like this one,
and you're not going to have You're not going to
have some of the sections that you might get in
a public school because the funding is different. Parochial school
doesn't get does get funding from the government, so they're
not going to have you know, uh, not an elementary anyway,
but they're not going to have gun detector, metal detectors and.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
All that at the at the doorways like some of
the public schools.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
This was.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I'm sick to my stomach over and it's this is.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
There's nothing here, We go again. That's all I can say.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, And the next coming days it'll be interesting to
see how they because they will they will discard that
he was anti submitic. The biggest toy would be that
he was transiended I believe that watching was country. They're
going to take that and rad with that. That will
be the forefront. So everybody, to my trans people out here,
my translists and brothers, please be cautious and please be
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careful because you never know where it's coming from, because
you never know who. Bobby just said a mouthful. Sometimes
a lot of these people are shifts out with no
port and and somebody plants the flag on them, and
they leave that flag on them. It could be a
flag of hate. So please be careful. I'm telling myself
that too, because I'm on the road. Okay, Bobbie, where
we going? What's next? We didn't talk See, we didn't
talk about Putin and Trump meeting last week because we
(14:14):
didn't come on.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Because we didn't come on. Well, what can we say?
Nothing happened.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So nothing happened, they wrote, And hold on before you
go any further, I want you guys to go back
and look at Trump walking the red carpet. Watch his
right leg. Look at the right pan leg. If it's
all the way down, it's the same size. There's clear
and when he got up to the top of stats
he had to almost like lift it to shift it
like it was a prosthetic. Please pay attention, you norm
(14:41):
it's not. Why were you hollering sleepy jail. What about
that other one that that special.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Donald he definitely has there there is some health issues
going on. We're not we're not going to hear because
the hands are very bruised. So there's something else we
already know. You know that he has the one condition
you know an Unfortunately, I hate saying this with anybody
that's elderly that I have.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
You know, I got a house full.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Once something one thing starts to go, it starts to
affect the other organs and stuff. So we are going
to have to pay attention. You're really gonna have to
pay attention to him, because who's going to step up dance?
I don't advance, regardless of how I feel about him,
He's not ready. He doesn't have enough. He's too green.
He does not have even close to enough experience to
(15:27):
step into the role. And a lot of people didn't
think about that. You know, he was young and virile,
that's what they were worried about. But he just does
not have He does not have the chops. He hasn't
done enough. He was a senator for a blip, and
we could say that about President Obama too. He didn't
have a whole lot of time, but he was an
organizer and we got very lucky.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
He was phenomenal. I just don't see the same He
doesn't have the same chops Dvance as President Obama with US.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And first of all, Advance didn't get the hat of
a reach with the administration that's in there now. So yeah,
I'm not saying that I agree, but it's not that
it'd be given if Obama was the president and he
had to step in those shoes. Oh, Biden was a president,
but the reach ain't that fought. So they both inexperience.
Give you were ANXI me one was just popular with
a base that had no port.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, you know, we have to remember Obama is had
he had Joe Biden, who had phenomenal experience, so he
really you know, they really thought it was a very
thoughtful decision having Joe Biden, who was a consummate statesman
come on as his VP. You know, that was He
has said it a million times and a million different
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venues that that was the smartest decision that he made
in all of the time that he was in office,
et cetera.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
And that was fine.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I know that Vance is a good looking guy and young,
and I don't know if that's what attracted President Trump,
but just a couple of years and not not a
whole lot of you know, community organizing or anything.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
You know, he just doesn't have it. He scares me.
He just doesn't have us.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So the owner of the Apprentice show, who who's now
in the presidential precept, wants to fire the federal governor
Lisa Cook. He wants to remove her over mortgage fraud allegations.
And I'm telling this is trumped up. This woman has
been in his job, doing his job for years and
years and years, no staying on her record or anything.
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But she is a black woman. So he wants to
fire her over that. Because the President called for Cook
to resign following the allegations by Trump by Trump's ally
Bill Polte, Cook has vowed to fight to keep her posts.
The president can fire Federal Reserve Board members for calls,
but it's not clear if the allegations against Cook standard.
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So it's just he's on powered struggle and he wants
to say you're fired. You fighting for I told you
big guys before y'all should have given him ten more
seasons of the Apprentice and now one day in the
Oval Okay, Bobby, come on, well.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
It shows you to me, It shows like this Bill
Poulte guy, who is he? You know, he doesn't have
it a big reach, but he I see that. I
feel like President Trump people can get in his ear
and build something up. These these governor, the you know,
fiscal federal governor positions, they don't have politicization. I could
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say that ten times fast. Politics don't play.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Within those roles, you know. So she's not. She's not weaponizing.
You can't.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It's sort of like the job's numbers. There are four
different places that they come from. They all feed into
one system. It's always been the way. Nobody's touch no
people actually touching those numbers. It's the same with this.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
She's not. She does her job.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
She has X through Y, and she just makes sure
that everybody does what they're supposed to. There's there's no
way to manipulate. So if she says she's gonna fight it,
and I hope she does, other people who are looking
at it that aren't with the administration up on both
sides are saying they don't. There's no there there, you know,
they don't see where what is the cause? What did
she actually do? That was illegal. Not what you think
(19:09):
or what you don't like, what is actually illegal. So
so we're gonna see it, you know, let's see what.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
The boks are about. I believe she has the right idea.
If you stand up to him, he don't know how
to handle it, especially coming from a woman. M hmm,
A powerful woman.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, you just said that that so you had said
black woman, and she is. But I think the strongest
part of that is he just does not like to
have these women in power, period. And then you put
a woman of color, and then that's a double. That's
a double, you know, a on your chest, scarlett letter
on your chest. But you know, this could end up
because he doesn't have the authority to do this. This
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could end up going to the Supreme Court, and we'll see,
you know, if they vote that he can get rid
of her, then they are really shifting the power of
what a president can do, you know, and that can
be And that's what I keep saying. He surprises me
and nothing that he does because he came out and
told us everything that he was going to do. What
surprises me literally brings me to my knees and devastates
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me at the same time is that we're allowing it
that none of our checks and balances are standing up
and doing what they're actually supposed to be doing. And
that's the part that and I would never say to
you we were just talking about the trans shooter. I
would never say that the trends would even come up
in a conversation. But in this administration, with the way
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things are going, I absolutely DEI being cut the suicide
hotline for trans people being eliminated, you know, day one,
it absolutely will be a trans issue. It's going to
feed their narrative, you know, their drag queen reading oh.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
My God, yes, yes, and which which they use and
to get to the precision that they're in now. Speaking
of which, in DC last he did a DC takeover.
He wants to take over all of these metropolitan heavily
black cities. Most all the ones he listed have black
mayor's Baltimore, Chicago, Philly, And he is yeah, but now
(21:17):
the car jacking numbers are down in d C. But
this is not because of the National Guard. This is
because they have a very strong black female mayor in
d C. The difference with DC, the reason he was
able to take over is because it's a district. It's
not a consider yes, right, but Bobby, you know it's
(21:37):
so many catch twenty twos to that. And I'm going
to explain him as soon as we come back from
this quick commercial break again. What you say about him
having too much power? If they allow him to just
keep moving like a steamroller, rolling over things and like
they allow him to do, You're right, Bobby, he will
look like a dictator, because it'll look like anybody who's
(21:59):
afraid of who stands up to him. You're toast, You're done.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Some people want that. Didn't you hear him say that
this week? Some people want a dictator? Came right out
of the news conference and said, Ito, who I'm gonna
be the owl, the wise old owl? What person ever
said they want a dictator?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
People are Russia? So are they damn sure? An't here?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Our whole country was built on getting away from authoritatium.
Oh my god, I can't say authority. They don't want
a king, which is they consider a dictator an authoritarian?
I mean our whole tenants, the tenants, look at the constitution,
it was all. Nobody wants a dictator.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Donald.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I know you're throwing it out there, but we're talking
about it. I want to get back to where you are.
And I'm so sorry for interrupting you. What aren't we
talking about when he says something stupid ass.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Like that, everything else you want to have going, Oh
my god?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Can you believe you wouldn't want to have one person
have them anyway if we had the all the power.
And then we clearly see that when he's speaking, he's
going somewhere else a snap the season because you having
a moment of temporary whatever could ruin the country for real,
because you do know the codes. So it's just Bobby,
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I don't know, girl, I don't know. I don't know.
I quit. Can you do it? Can we quit?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
No, we can't quit. That's what they want, that's what
they absolutely want. They want you to quit. But we
don't want to quit.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I mean, there aren't so there is crime. So you know,
let's roll it back a little bit. Being somebody a
GOP that wants to reduce crime. It's not necessarily a
bad thing. Even putting out the National Guard, it's not
a bad thing. The way you do it, calling up
the mayor, calling up the police commissioner, asking if you
(23:53):
can rund a hand or how about this, we sit
and we take a step back. What is the best
thing that we can can do. Because they both came
forward and said, you know, it's will take the help
in the right way. We'll take the right help at
the right time and the right way. We have historically
low crime numbers. But I mean, you and I have
(24:14):
talked on this podcast before about how high Chicago, because
we're going to talk about that in a second, how
crime in Chicago is, how high violent crime in Chicago is.
But you have to have you have to speak to people.
You can't force it on them. You know, West Virginia,
South Carolina, Ohio are three states.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
They're all going to their leadership all says they want
the national Guard. They agreed to it.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
They said, yes, help us, help us in our way.
They're going to put their national guard out so they
can control the narrative and control the conversation. The way
that he's doing it, you know, Muriel Bowser came out
and said, we would have loved it, but you just
can't do this. And again, the way he does it
is so outrageous that that's what we talk about and
we're not talking about the crime. How about this stop
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cutting their money, giving them, give them more money, give
them money to put the social workers in place. Find
out what crime is. Here's a thought, wes Moore, his
crime is at a historic glow all over because he's
put he's got a systematic plan that he has put
into place. How about have all of our mayors and
governors or whatever sit on I don't care if it's
(25:22):
a zoom call, versus actually come in, come into the city,
speak with wes Moore and see what they're actually doing,
and maybe he can assist in there's ideas and they
can roll it out. He is a disruptor. President Trump,
he is. That's what he has, That's what he is
known for.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
We can't allow it.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
We have to. People have to stand up to him
and say not in my city, or they don't want it.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
What wes Moore is the governor of Maryland?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Right, yes, yes, yes, handsome he was the military.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Well the problem where he wouldn't take advice from wes Moore.
And I'm just gonna call that because wes Moore is
a black man. Second of all, speaking speaking of powerful governors,
can I just talk about the most fantastic governor in
the fifty one or fifty two states. How many we
got fifty two to fifty three or fifty four. I'm
having a Trump moment anyway, A Gavin Knew Some of
(26:18):
the Governor of.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
California menopause flame. You're having a menopause.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Moment, Gavin the News to Governor Gavin new Some. It's
just the the bee's knees here in California. He is strong,
he is intentional, he is courageous, he is unafraid, and
he is not taking Trump shit. He is not backing down.
He is talking about counseling several money that we pay
because California pays one hundred and eighty billion dollars in
(26:45):
several taxes, more than everybody else that goes to the
red states that don't like California, the blue state. Baby,
if we stop sending y'all money, y'all want to have sons.
Y'all want to have white only towns. You surely will.
It's gonna be white bread only because y'all ain't gonna
have shit else, because we know said nothing else. I
wish the racism would go somewhere and dissipate, but Bobby, unfortunately,
(27:05):
we won't. Never not see racism or in our lifetime.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Now, it were not not with this administration staying in.
You know, I thought, but I naively thought, because I
don't see it and I don't travel, you know, in.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Crowds that I mean, I really just don't.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
See it that I just thought it was gone until
all of a sudden, It probably probably when George Floyd.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Just before that there were a few events and I went,
oh oh, and I just well, it was the last.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Time that this administration was in, not this particular administration,
only one of them. And then all of a sudden,
people started saying that the the the ugly parts out loud,
and people started feeling, and I thought it went a
certain way.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And it was okay.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
It was okay to be rude, it was okay to
be racist, it was okay to to be callous. And
it literally shocked me, same as I'm shocked now with
the Senate and whatnot, just not doing it in the
Supreme Court, not holding certain things accountable. I feel the
same way, you know about racism then, but it's going
(28:07):
to get better unless we move.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, but there is still some strength in these federal
judges because thank you President and Joe Biden for appointing
so many before you left office. There was a judge
that toss tossed out Trump's administrative lawsuit against maryland fifteen
federal judges. A federal judge on Tuesday threw out an aggressive,
unusual lawsuit the Trump administration brought earlier this year against
(28:32):
all fifteen federal judges in Maryland, rejecting a b by
the Justice Department to limit court power and fast moving
immigration cases. The opinion on Tuesday framed the lawsuit as
a major constitutional standout, for Judge Thomas Cullen, writing the
Justice Departments couldn't pursue a constitutional free for all. And
(28:52):
it was on CNN on a twenty six Bobby again,
if you stand up to the monster, the monster will
not stand by up to you, especially if your eyes
are dotted and your teas across.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
No, that's that's why the midterms to me flame, And
that's why I don't like the jerry mandering we were
talking about Newsome. I don't like that he's doing that.
He's tip for tat with the jerry mannery. But it's
got to be a fair shake. So and that's how
I feel about the midterms. I just want. I don't
care if it's the Senate or the House. I just
want the other side, regardless of what the other side was,
(29:25):
so that we have a check in a balance to
be in place. So in this case, I want the
Democrats to get one of them, and it's okay if
the Republicans have the other side. That's how it's supposed
to be. You check me, and I check you, and
nobody gets a looted. There are no dictators. Even saying
something as silly as that, he just we don't end up.
We end up talking about the stupid shit.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
You know, he was the Democrats, he was no.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Go ahead the Democrats had, the Democrats had the jerry mandate.
You cannot play You cannot play politically fair with Trump.
You have to get as dirt. It has time and
time again. I know you wanted to go the right way,
the right way, but it's not. You have to get
as dirty as he is. Nothing else works, and he
(30:14):
understands nothing else.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
No I know, And you know he was bragging and
it's like, no, everybody, I hope everybody is actually reading.
He was bragging about the New York Appeals Court and
they were overturning or they were cutting the five hundred
million for that fraud.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Case that he had.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
He wasn't He's still guilty of fraud. They didn't say that.
What the court said, the appeal court said is just
the five hundred million. It's just it's it's excessive, you know,
like they came up with the wrong number. It should
have been something that was lowered, like they reached for
five hundred bazillion dollars and you know, you can still
be guilty of the crime, and he is. But so
(30:52):
he's calling in a victory. See the appeals court. They're
saying that I wasn't wrong.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
No they're not. They're not saying you weren't wrong.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
They're just saying that Latica Letitia James, she went the
numbers too high. It should be more in line with
what your crime was. Maybe one hundred bill a million
would have been enough and it would have stayed the
way it is. He's not gonna pay it anyway, do
you know what I mean. So it's as long as
he's still you know, a fraud convicted of fraud, which
he is, that's all we really care about. Because he's
(31:19):
not he doesn't pay anything. I think that in speaking
of not paying, Okay, he might he might have a two.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
He might have a two for one stale long bibles
and sneakers.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I know, you know he it's funny. He wants everybody
to pay for his stuff or pay America, right, but
he doesn't want it the other way around. So we
started to talk, and I want to get back to it.
I don't want us to get off to get off it.
So nothing happened with Putin. The red carpet was rolled out,
which was really important for Putin to be taken seriously
(31:53):
on the world stage. And then I'm not going to
fault Trump completely because in his mind he's thinking, if
I stroke Putin and he's right, you know, make him
think he's important and we're on level ground and the
whole bit. You know, that'll the thoughts will keep going
because he also came out President Trump over the the
(32:17):
past few weeks during a press conference and said that,
you know, one of the reasons that this this is
so important to him, And I wish I knew which
press conference it was. I know I have it in
my notes somewhere. This is so important to this peace
deal because he wants to get to heaven.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
He's getting older and he wants to get to heaven.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
And you know, he's kind of low down on the
heaven list, and he thinks if he can broke a priest,
that will help him. Now, whether he said it as
a joke, I don't know, but but he was supposed
to put big sanctions. Do remember that's all we heard.
I'm not gonna be happy if it doesn't come out.
We're not going to be put big sensions. Nothing got done,
they had a conversation where there was no agreement, there
(32:59):
was no peace deal. But yet he is this week.
In fact, I think it started today. He's hitting India.
He threatened them he would with the fifty percent tariff
because they're buying oil from from Russia, which in honesty,
nobody in Europe should be, because Europe is the one
(33:19):
that's going to be that's going to be hit the closest,
if you know, if Poot loses his mind. Yep, we're
not putting sanctions. So does that seem fair? We're hitting
somebody else for doing it. Should be that way at all.
He should be hitting him with sanctions, and he should
be hitting up anybody in Europe that's that's continuing to
buy oil and gas from from Russia. But I'm like, no,
(33:44):
and it's gonna we're gonna. I don't know what we
really get. I know we get some medical devices, agricultural spices,
stuff like that from India.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
I don't know how we're actually gonna feel.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
It, but other than put Indian people, because there are
markets all over at least all of a message, people
are going to be paying more. They're going to be
paying more there for their for their cooman and whatever else.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Come back, Come back, Bobby, come back. The answer only
require forty five seconds. Good God, Jesus. Here's the thing, Bobby.
I had no expectations with him with Putin last week.
I didn't think that he was going to resolve it
because during the campaign his words were, I can stop
the war on day one. You never did. They won
(34:28):
and came and went a couple of times. You never did.
So I was not expecting anything like a kid in
the candy store. He was excited like a kid in
the candy store when Putin came over here and they
met it in Alaska. Now where I would not be
shocked about is if he did not sign Alaska back
over or sell Alaska back to Russia because it used
(34:50):
to belong to Russia.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Well, that would be tough. We wouldn't We wouldn't want to. Yeah,
we wouldn't want him above us.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
So they're too close, you know, then they can take
there because they have the biggest nuclear weapon, Arsenal. We
wouldn't want them like literally right over our heads. So
we'll see. He didn't get what he wanted though he
have you ever seen so during the press conference, if
people didn't pay attention anytime that that President Biden is up.
(35:14):
He likes to hear his own voice, as my sister
Teresa would say, not about she says it, just she
shows it about me. So he he always has it,
takes questions and answers. At the end, he hustled them out.
They didn't have their lunch, they didn't have they didn't
the press didn't get to ask anything because there was
nothing to ask. Nothing was nothing was done. Culton handered too,
(35:39):
because he was stroking the two of them know exactly
how to get he was stroking Trump. He said the
war wouldn't have happened most likely if Trump was in
and Biden was, you know, because Biden was and he
kind of slammed him there. You know, he got a
few good good cuts in, uh, but nothing.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
And and his people are saying that there's supposed to
be a big talk between Zolenski and Trump. They're not
putting anything on the books. We were leaving there and
he said, well, the next talk will be that we're
gonna have what we'll have to say. I don't see it.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I definitely believe that they have put presidents Lynsky out
to out to just float on out to see what happens.
I hate that too, because I hate that, but I
love that the fact that the President Lensky of Ukraine
and the Ukrainian people are fighting tooth and there to
the bitter end. They are fighting to the bitterer end.
It's tragic over there, but they are still fighting back.
And there's what you have that you have to fight
(36:35):
for yourself.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
You do, I mean, yeah, you do? There was Are
you ready for?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Are you ready? Yeah? I'm ready for that? Set it up.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
We still haven't got you guys on sending anything in.
But Slam had come across an article or she had
read something yesterday about the snoop dog in then at
the movies, and I thought that would be kind of
a good a good subject to kind of bring because
it's supposed to be kind of cultural and fun and
(37:09):
and and have your your your wit and your wisdom
kind of added to it. And this one, I just don't.
I think we are looking for backlash for anything. I
don't even get why people are about upset.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
With with Snup.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Don't get it.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
So so the story Snoop took. Yeah, So Snoop took
his grandson to the movies to see a cartoon Ladies
and Gentlemen. Uh, And then in the cartoon a buzz
light Year, one of the toy story films, which we
absolutely love, but it's one of the newer versions there
was there was the same six two moms couple. So
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the kids like, how did they have a baby? So
Snoop said, the question caught him off guard, and that's
how he said. He didn't know what to say now.
And when Snoop put it out there, oh, is it
ignorance or is it I just don't know, because that's
what ignorance is. Sometimes you just don't know. They just
took that and ran with it, like made him homophobic
(38:08):
and he's transphobic and movabo. I'm like, no, he was
just saying, and I get from a parent's perspective. So
I made a whole video and they have sent it
up and they going crazy and this going that, and
I made a video. It was like, what if I
take my kid or grandkid to the movie and I'm
trans and I've identified with the community, I don't want
to have to explain to a kid that's five or
six years old at a cartoon about the birds and
(38:31):
the beach. We came to enjoy the damn cartoon. Now,
if the movie was waited are or if it was
ready PG, okay, then I know it might be something
that's appropriate. But going to the movies, and first of all,
it's not cheap. So if I take my kid to
the movies, it's twenty dollars for me, it's twelve dollars
for the kid. That's thirty two dollars. We get popcorn,
hot dog, nachos, goobers. Raising As a Minnesota that's probably
(38:54):
another fifty or sixty dollars. And I'm not exaggerated. It's
quite expensive to go to the movies. So that's a
hundred dollars right, go back. So I'm fifteen minutes then
too the movie. I'm watching a movie and then I
see something inappropriate. I can't even go back to a
friend and say, can I get my money back for
all of this? They're not going to give you a refund,
just like you cannot unring the bell. What he was
(39:14):
saying was I should not have to explain to a
young kid like this about a cartoon. We came just
to enjoy the movie, but they made it something that
it is not, Bobby, and it's just and I'm not
giving a listen. It's not even like I'm taking snoop side.
But as a parent, I don't want to have to
explain that I want to enjoy the damn movie. Am
I wrong, I'm out reaching? Or am I pandering?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
You're not paying?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
So many took me who don't have cheerwait mate, Bobby.
So many people who don't have children have spoken out
this topic. If you don't have children, I don't think
that you will ever really understand because what a parent
will give, will sacrifice, tolerate, and do for their child
when other people would have been gave up. You will
never unders saying that unless you have been put in
(40:01):
that situation as a painter. Okay, Bobby, here you go.
I think and no, no.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
And I agree.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I think this is to me multi layered. So first
of all, now you're coming to me as the grampy. Right,
you have no right to talk to your son or
daughter's kid about this particular subject. I understand Pixar trying
to make everything normal. They don't want them to ever
be a conversation, but there should be. From Pixar, in
(40:30):
my opinion, either come out and make some sort of announcement,
not even about this movie. Be aware that there could
be some and whatever it is, same sex, there could
be cultural things mentioned, racial things mentioned, go down, whatever that.
You want to make sure that you have the conversations
with your kid. I like that he came forward because
(40:53):
now people might actually have those conversations. You know, for
in five years, you've got grandkids and you're bringing them
to them. You might sit down with your your son
and daughters and say, Okay, what have you spoken about,
what lessons have you taught?
Speaker 4 (41:07):
How do we want to handle this?
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I think the kid has to be brighter than hell,
because I don't even know if I got a kid
that's almost middle aged if he even would have picked
up on it.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
So that's but I.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Don't think there's anything wrong with saying it. I don't
think it makes you anti LGBT. It just makes you shocked,
you know. It makes that the kid picked up on it,
and he didn't he wasn't prepared to know what to say.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
That's how I'm taking it, uh, and I agree hearts.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, I think that is what he's saying. By me
that it just knocked him off his feet. He was
taken aback like whoa, And he was just expressing that,
and they that that wasn't homophobic, that wasn't transphobic, none
of that. That was like, I'm just expressing, like and
then he put out a statement say, well teach me,
you know, I don't know. I'm willing to learn. But
(41:56):
they just took it and run with Grandwick because people
are still angry with you, one of the I'm still
angry with. Yeah, people are still angry with Snoop Dogg
because he dj that inaugural thing for Trump. But what
they do not know the Bockstawyer that yes, I learned
this from him and from Tiffany recently, is that he
donated a gang of that money to women's shelters with children.
(42:19):
He is for twenty five young men in the NFL
black Man. He still contributes money to this Alba Mater,
which is my daughter'sd Almamater Polytechnical High School here in
Long Beach. So he does a lot of good for
a lot of people. He's real big on helping the homeless,
especially better women and people and women and women's shelters.
But he don't talk about that, and they didn't give
(42:39):
him a chance to talk about that. I believe that
he would have made a statement after that whole Trump debacle,
but they were so relentless tearing him apart, Bobby, and
people forget that he's also a man. He's human, he
has a heart, he has feelings. All of that gangst
the persona up under all that is just a human
being who has feelings. I wouldn't have made a statement
(43:00):
because y'all, after all the words that y'all saying and
things that y'all said about him, he was coning he
was a sellout, he was this, that and the other third.
I probably wouldn't have made a public statement either, like, Okay,
think what you want to think.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Well, it's hard, and I think he's so.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Had he not made this statement three four years ago,
whenever it was, you know, anti Trump, I don't think
he would have had an issue at all. It's because
we had that. But I don't know how you come
back from that. Will you and I have talked about
this before. I don't I never understand why people are
so terrified of Trump. It's like, does he must have
some sort of satellite system in everybody's bedroom or something
(43:34):
that he's got information on everybody saying that and just
because I just don't understand, you know, I don't know
what the circumstances work because I wasn't privy, it was
in my business. But as far as this goes, you know,
I can see him. I think you just said that
teach me, and maybe that's it. Teach a kid, you know,
(43:56):
you can, you can come out with something that's sort
of big and open and because kids want an answer,
but they don't necessarily need to have the nitty gritty
answer flame you know, I don't know if five, four, five, six,
seven is the age to speak about sexuality. Would you
want me if I took your kids to the movies
talking about sexuality and giving them the nitty gritty to
(44:18):
your children. But if it's not what you believe, you know,
so I can see him kind of choking. I would
have said, ask your mother, or I would have said adoption.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
I mean, I would have Bobby, I'm trying, And I
would have been uncomfortable because what you want to do
is preserve your children's innocence for as long as you can.
It's definitely and the internet is going to grow them up.
But I would have been uncomfortable to Bobby. But I
mean I probably would have been, well, you know they
have mommy because my kids go to school. I would say,
(44:50):
you know, like the Jones is there's two dads or
there's two moms. But when you're when you're but I'm.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
That's actually agree, it's not yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
He is not of the community.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
So he was like, no, not kid, right, And it's
not his child. You can because you can make anything
up or say whatever you want when it's your own child.
But when you have responsibility for somebody else's and I
don't know if it was his, it must have been
his son's because I don't think his daughter has any
kids yet. You know, his daughter in law might be
super strict or whatever, you know, like you don't know,
(45:24):
we don't know.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
I think I think he brought it to light.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
I think that's important sometimes and now maybe maybe people
will actually ask some questions. Okay, I'm taking your kid
out and we're gonna go to X, Y or Z.
You know what do I say if? And people should
have those conversations. So anyway, I don't think there's anything
wrong with that. And did you say, speaking about fanning
(45:48):
the flame, did you did you see that President Trump
is all happy for Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey getting married.
He must be overhair for not not endorsing him. Remember
he was so mad and said she wasn't hot anymore and.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
She was a woke singer, you know she had. He
had a couple of comments. He must be over over
that because he gave them there his endorsement.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
He said all of that before, uh, like they were
looking Philadelphia and look he said all of that before
his friend went to Philadelphia and worked on those voting machines.
Oh catch that.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I'm like, Oh, they must say yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Let's let's let's get the dry clothing story.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Barbie, pay attention. That's what I'm going to say for
our elders. We've talked about this before. We've talked about
people trying to commit fraud on them, really crazy phone calls.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Well, now.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
Millions of people who are their social Security records could
be out because they're saving They copied a document and
they're saving it. It's like in the cloud.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
And people who are concerned about that, who say there
aren't enough protections, the administration says, oh, it's fine, people
are watching it.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Please don't give you a.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
Social out to any elderly or anybody. I want to
say this to any elder or anybody out here with
the elderly in their family, It's okay to hang up.
It's okay to just hang up. You don't have to
respond hello, this is how you just want a million dollars,
Just push in in the call. That ain't being rude.
I know some of us are elderly, were like, that's disrespectful.
(47:31):
Hang up on that ass. That way, you don't have
to deal with any of that bullshitting them, stamps, skins,
and scams. So teach your people that it is not
rude to hang up on people, especially when it's somebody
that you just don't want to talk to because you
know they're trying to trick you. It's okay to hang up.
That's not rude in this day and age.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
No, it's not right.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
And watch yourselff.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
You know there are all sorts of Yeah, there's all
sorts of apps and stuff that you can want your
pay attention to your credit reports. Make sure there aren't
false things that are on there. And I hate to
you you're going to have to help your your mom
while your grammy and your grimpy because you don't want.
It's pretty bad that the government has something that's that's
(48:11):
not super safe. That kind of makes me a little concerned.
But pay attention. Let's help our people pay attention when
you're in church. You know how we close their eyes
when we pray. We won eye open the.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Third at the third a blind ladies and gentlemen, listen.
Thank you so much for joining us. I'm so sorry
about last week that we had a hiccup. I love
you our great producer, mister Aaron. We just want to
give him my love and our blessings. But we thank
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During this time in our lives, ladies and gentlemen, is
August the twenty seven and in the world looks very scary.
But in order for the world not to look very scary,
we have to face the demon that we all helped create.
We all helped create this monster that we have. This
is the episode is gonna be called Frankenstan We're all
guilty of bits. Write that down, body, please, because we
(49:43):
created this monster if the moral of Frankenstein's movie was
Frankenstein was never the monster. Frankenstein created the monster, and
then one didn't want to face the monster he created.
All the Republicans that are now paying attention to oh
my god, we cut the core and it's crazy. It's
not too late. It is not too late for us
(50:04):
to get back our country before it becomes too late
to get back our country. So stand up for what's right,
stand up for people that you care about, the love.
They might not look like you, they might not think
like you, they might not even vote like you, but
we're still American citizens, and we got to hang in
here together because here to laugh a Learn. We don't
want to change your mind. We are not trying to
change your mind. We are only trying to get you
(50:27):
to use your mind, because why, Bobby.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
Your mind and your vote are a terrible thing.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
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you guys, Thank you Aaron. We will see you guys
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and greet my co host Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Say hello Bobby, Hello, how you touch?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Always wasted a countdown inside running her damn mouth? She
does this every week by me. How was your week?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
My week is?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
It is gorgeous in Boston, right, now seventies, cool, breezy,
low humidity, just like it, like heaven. So I have
been sucking up and soaking up the last of the summer.
You know, we just went back to school. We go
back to school right now Wednesday today, the twenty seventh,
and I so summer is, even though it's not over
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for a month, it's sort of over. So I've been
trying to soak up as much as I can get.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Just beautiful. How about you? You were busy. You had
a big show last week.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I worked in Pittsburgh. I wanted to give a big
shout out to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, to Derek mccant's Cash Show
and his partner, his husband Bunsdale Life, for putting on
such a fabulous show. To all the ladies behind the
scenes that are part of the show. Thank you, guys
so much. To Miss Kim who owns Spotlight Costumes in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
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If you're ever there, she has anything that you want
from so many periods, connecting costumes for forty years. Beautiful though.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
We're in with that Viking hat I walked.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I wanted to steal that Viking hat, Bobbie. I love
that biking hat. But she was the nicest lady. She said,
all been night products and it was just like they
brought Broadway to Pittsburgh at the it was called the
Carnegie Free Library or something. We had a grand time.
This was year or two. It was a beautiful event.
All the people were so pleasant. My fat ass felled twice.
I'm not gonna even lie. The stage was slippery, and
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I'm not as slimm as I used to be. Good God,
I failed twice, but I had a great time. The
people were wonderful. I talked about our podcast and speaking
about our podcast, No, we did not take last week,
but we're gonna try to make up for it this
week because there's so much happening in the news, and
I'm not gonna start off with death. We're gonna start
off with what happened today, which was a terrible man
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shooting in Minnesota at a private Catholic school. Mind you,
Bobbie will tell you all the name and the details,
and the children were on their knees praying. And this coward,
because that's exactly what it is. Yes, he had mental issues,
but he was a coward, got through the window, shot
through the window to shoot at these people. Dreed seventeen,
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kill two. It is so barbaric out here that people
are brother so much pressure and don't understand that there's
no way out because people don't have anyone to talk to,
because a lot of fundings have been cut in order
to call to have someone to talk to. But nevertheless, Bobby,
and then it comes out on the news that this
person identifies as trance. If we don't have enough shit on,
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if we're not under the microscope enough, under this grit,
under this administration, this is definitely something that we do
not need. But my theory is it was a distraction,
anything to look away from those fiting files.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
What say you, Bobby, I said, so the gunman's gun woman,
because this person identifies as trans Robin Westman, I mean
on no license and everything, so they are doing whatever
they're doing.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Trans I don't think has anything to do with it.
I think when you're disturbed, you're a disturbed person, just
like I've said to you, when you're an asshole, you're
an asshole. When you're disturbed, you're disturbed. You'd have to be.
We have found this so limited information. We did find
that the gun person's mom was the parish secretary up
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until twenty twenty one and retired from the position. So
I don't know if it's more about that there's some
sort of push pull going on with the mom and
try to hurt your you know, the mom.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
But why you.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Would go to when these little kids are in at
the Catholic school or in their little uniforms, sitting in
the in the pews, and the only other people who
go to those masses of the elderly, I mean, that
is the most vulnerable group. Why you would go in
and start shooting into windows, kill two babies, an eight
year olds and a ten year old, injured seventeen others.
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I am told that the gun rin is believed to
be dead.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I don't have any I con't at that on the
few articles that I'm seeing. I'm sure other people are
reporting that have better.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, they say they say they reported that he killed himselves,
so that's why they called themselves.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Okay, yeah, all right, yeah, I don't We've got to
pay attention and this and these are really crazy acts.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I don't want people to be so paran right, I.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Don't even want them to put the emphasis on that
he was trans because when they went and raided his
home and some people that he was affiliated his failing
in his home, there were weapons everywhere, and all the
weapons that he had had anti Semitic writings on them.
So he was not only did he hate himself, but
he had he was full of rage for so many
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other different kinds of things. He was a madman, Bobby,
he was. He was a mad man. I'm not even
claiming him. He was a mad man.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, no, he I think she she It was, you know,
kind of a boat with no no port. It clearly
tried to fit into a group. I mean, this is
how sometimes cults can get a hold of people too,
because they're so desperate and want to feel like they
fit somewhere or whatever. But this wasn't This wasn't it.
This wasn't the this wasn't the hill to die on.
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This was a coward, isn't even I mean, these aren't
people that you even now if you gave every one
of those children and the elderly people, the people who
were in church a gun and said all right now
I'm going to fight you, but two there were fish
in a barrel. I mean, I can't think of any
better expression than that they had nowhere to go. The
only good thing that I heard that came out about
this story. I was listening to c and earlier I
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was running some errands, so I was listening to it
on the news, and they had There was an older
gentleman that had gone to the school when he was
a kid. I think he was like mid seventies, raised
his children in the school, and his grandchildren don't go
to this school, but go to a Catholic school. He
heard the gunshots. At first, he wasn't sure what they were,
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and then he actually ran towards the church. He said,
it was actually outraged. I just I knew what it was.
After about the tenth shot, you knew that something was
going on, and he thought, he said, I thought maybe
I could help. So he got three of the kids.
He got a child that probably just had like a
grazing in the arm, one that was shot in the head,
but he said wasn't bleeding and they were talking. And
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another one that said they were shot that was shot
in the neck, and uh, he kind of kept them
calm and he kept them safe with him, and he
was so we did probably have We're gonna hear some nice,
brave stories, although we didn't want them, he said. The
kids were brave like the little boy he said, was yes, sir, No, sir,
I'm not scared. I'm okay. I'll stay with you. He
was able to call their parents and get the parents
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down there. I don't know if he ever he didn't
say if he ever called ninety one one. But we
had some We had people who were rising to the occasion,
and that's what we have to do, he said. This
is what the country needs to get back to. He's
in the middle of a disaster, he said, helping each other.
That's all we're here for, is to help each other.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Bibby, you're a parent, do you know how traumatized?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I can't even imagine to be.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yes with the tragedy of it all. But you got
to understand that just like the ones that die, it's
the ones that live, and these are children that have
to live with Dodger bullis. It's such a different time. Okay.
I'm telling my age from when Lee and Bobby were children,
because we the worst we had to worry about was
a fifth like this at three fifteen, or a little bullying,
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or maybe we had to get an earthquake one and
every once every two years or something. But this is
getting hiding from gunmen shoes, schools getting shot up. I
don't know that. I know the times have changed, but
that this much and then it's just like tomorrow will
be like, yeah, they had another one. It's not even this.
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In our sanitized this would have went on, been on
the news for two years.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It would have been all, yeah, there are so many
and so many shootings. So you know the one thing
that I have not heard, and I'll be interested. Of course,
it's not in time for this coming out. I'm curious
to see the White House other than other than Nome
saying it's a deranged murderer. Of course you would, but
I'm interested to see what the inner sanctum the administration
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is going to come out.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
What are they going to do. They're not going to
touch those guns.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Why was somebody that obviously was clearly mentally ill able
to have as?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
They want to shift it and they're going to weapon
as This is going to be one of those plots.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I agree with you, Yeah, I never would have done
that before, but but absolutely they're going to try to
Absolutely they're going to try to to glom on tom
onto that. But I mean, this is oh my God,
my hot wrenches. So those kids, Jesus, they don't want
to be in church to begin with. For the love
of God. Now you go to church and there's a
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chance that something could happen to you, I I just can't.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, well, it's not like we haven't heard this something
like this before. Because Dylan Ruth went up to the
church with the name black people with him. After they
prayed with him for forty five minutes, he had no
prayer in his heart. He shout and killed all of them.
So I'm I don't know what is happening with the
anger and the rage in our country, Bobby, but it
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is so scary and you just never know where you're
going to be. Everybody, please be conscious and be aware
if we all get weapons and it's just going to
be a shootout. But somebody needs to learn how to
talk to somebody to bring them down to like, listen,
do you need a hug? You're beautiful? Do you need
do you need something to eat? I don't know, Bobby,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I go, I'll help you.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
You know, this is part of what defund the police
when when that was coming about. It wasn't that you
want to take money away from the police. You want
to restructure it. You want to make sure the police
there are enough of them on that they're properly vetted.
You want to make sure that I think on every
shift there should be at least one social worker that
could potentially, you know, come and help. You know, I
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don't in the in the the case of it actually happening, unfortunately,
you're not going to get that is social work. You've
missed the mark on this one. But maybe if there
was somebody readily available that this Westmond could have gone to,
I don't know, maybe they would have been able to help.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
But we need to do we need to do something.
We need to be able to control the guns and
if you've got mental illness, clearly make sure that they
don't have access to guns.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
The Republican the GOP is not going to do that
because they are all for their gun rights. They want
to be able to carry their guns and everybody. Everything
else is collateral damage. And Bobby, I'm trying. It's not
going to shake it up until it shakes them up.
But the but unfortunately or fortunately for them, unfortunately for
you know, unfortunately for their children. They got their kids
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in guarded schools. They got their kids in places where
they are completely protected, certain won't experience stuff like this.
Everybody can't afford it. Everybody has not afforded their luxury
in life. It's crazy, Bobby.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And then you get a parochial school like this one,
and you're not going to have You're not going to
have some of the sections that you might get in
a public school because the funding is different. Parochial school
doesn't get does get funding from the government, so they're
not going to have you know, uh, not an elementary anyway,
but they're not going to have gun detector, metal detectors and.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
All that at the at the doorways like some of
the public schools.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
This was.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I'm sick to my stomach over and it's this is.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
There's nothing here, We go again. That's all I can say.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, And the next coming days it'll be interesting to
see how they because they will they will discard that
he was anti submitic. The biggest toy would be that
he was transiended I believe that watching was country. They're
going to take that and rad with that. That will
be the forefront. So everybody, to my trans people out here,
my translists and brothers, please be cautious and please be
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careful because you never know where it's coming from, because
you never know who. Bobby just said a mouthful. Sometimes
a lot of these people are shifts out with no
port and and somebody plants the flag on them, and
they leave that flag on them. It could be a
flag of hate. So please be careful. I'm telling myself
that too, because I'm on the road. Okay, Bobbie, where
we going? What's next? We didn't talk See, we didn't
talk about Putin and Trump meeting last week because we
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didn't come on.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Because we didn't come on. Well, what can we say?
Nothing happened.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So nothing happened, they wrote, And hold on before you
go any further, I want you guys to go back
and look at Trump walking the red carpet. Watch his
right leg. Look at the right pan leg. If it's
all the way down, it's the same size. There's clear
and when he got up to the top of stats
he had to almost like lift it to shift it
like it was a prosthetic. Please pay attention, you norm
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it's not. Why were you hollering sleepy jail. What about
that other one that that special.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Donald he definitely has there there is some health issues
going on. We're not we're not going to hear because
the hands are very bruised. So there's something else we
already know. You know that he has the one condition
you know an Unfortunately, I hate saying this with anybody
that's elderly that I have.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
You know, I got a house full.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Once something one thing starts to go, it starts to
affect the other organs and stuff. So we are going
to have to pay attention. You're really gonna have to
pay attention to him, because who's going to step up dance?
I don't advance, regardless of how I feel about him,
He's not ready. He doesn't have enough. He's too green.
He does not have even close to enough experience to
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step into the role. And a lot of people didn't
think about that. You know, he was young and virile,
that's what they were worried about. But he just does
not have He does not have the chops. He hasn't
done enough. He was a senator for a blip, and
we could say that about President Obama too. He didn't
have a whole lot of time, but he was an
organizer and we got very lucky.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
He was phenomenal. I just don't see the same He
doesn't have the same chops Dvance as President Obama with US.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And first of all, Advance didn't get the hat of
a reach with the administration that's in there now. So yeah,
I'm not saying that I agree, but it's not that
it'd be given if Obama was the president and he
had to step in those shoes. Oh, Biden was a president,
but the reach ain't that fought. So they both inexperience.
Give you were ANXI me one was just popular with
a base that had no port.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, you know, we have to remember Obama is had
he had Joe Biden, who had phenomenal experience, so he
really you know, they really thought it was a very
thoughtful decision having Joe Biden, who was a consummate statesman
come on as his VP. You know, that was He
has said it a million times and a million different
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venues that that was the smartest decision that he made
in all of the time that he was in office,
et cetera.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
And that was fine.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I know that Vance is a good looking guy and young,
and I don't know if that's what attracted President Trump,
but just a couple of years and not not a
whole lot of you know, community organizing or anything.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
You know, he just doesn't have it. He scares me.
He just doesn't have us.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So the owner of the Apprentice show, who who's now
in the presidential precept, wants to fire the federal governor
Lisa Cook. He wants to remove her over mortgage fraud allegations.
And I'm telling this is trumped up. This woman has
been in his job, doing his job for years and
years and years, no staying on her record or anything.
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But she is a black woman. So he wants to
fire her over that. Because the President called for Cook
to resign following the allegations by Trump by Trump's ally
Bill Polte, Cook has vowed to fight to keep her posts.
The president can fire Federal Reserve Board members for calls,
but it's not clear if the allegations against Cook standard.
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So it's just he's on powered struggle and he wants
to say you're fired. You fighting for I told you
big guys before y'all should have given him ten more
seasons of the Apprentice and now one day in the
Oval Okay, Bobby, come on, well.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
It shows you to me, It shows like this Bill
Poulte guy, who is he? You know, he doesn't have
it a big reach, but he I see that. I
feel like President Trump people can get in his ear
and build something up. These these governor, the you know,
fiscal federal governor positions, they don't have politicization. I could
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say that ten times fast. Politics don't play.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Within those roles, you know. So she's not. She's not weaponizing.
You can't.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It's sort of like the job's numbers. There are four
different places that they come from. They all feed into
one system. It's always been the way. Nobody's touch no
people actually touching those numbers. It's the same with this.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
She's not. She does her job.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
She has X through Y, and she just makes sure
that everybody does what they're supposed to. There's there's no
way to manipulate. So if she says she's gonna fight it,
and I hope she does, other people who are looking
at it that aren't with the administration up on both
sides are saying they don't. There's no there there, you know,
they don't see where what is the cause? What did
she actually do? That was illegal. Not what you think
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or what you don't like, what is actually illegal. So
so we're gonna see it, you know, let's see what.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
The boks are about. I believe she has the right idea.
If you stand up to him, he don't know how
to handle it, especially coming from a woman. M hmm,
A powerful woman.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, you just said that that so you had said
black woman, and she is. But I think the strongest
part of that is he just does not like to
have these women in power, period. And then you put
a woman of color, and then that's a double. That's
a double, you know, a on your chest, scarlett letter
on your chest. But you know, this could end up
because he doesn't have the authority to do this. This
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could end up going to the Supreme Court, and we'll see,
you know, if they vote that he can get rid
of her, then they are really shifting the power of
what a president can do, you know, and that can
be And that's what I keep saying. He surprises me
and nothing that he does because he came out and
told us everything that he was going to do. What
surprises me literally brings me to my knees and devastates
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me at the same time is that we're allowing it
that none of our checks and balances are standing up
and doing what they're actually supposed to be doing. And
that's the part that and I would never say to
you we were just talking about the trans shooter. I
would never say that the trends would even come up
in a conversation. But in this administration, with the way
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things are going, I absolutely DEI being cut the suicide
hotline for trans people being eliminated, you know, day one,
it absolutely will be a trans issue. It's going to
feed their narrative, you know, their drag queen reading oh.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
My God, yes, yes, and which which they use and
to get to the precision that they're in now. Speaking
of which, in DC last he did a DC takeover.
He wants to take over all of these metropolitan heavily
black cities. Most all the ones he listed have black
mayor's Baltimore, Chicago, Philly, And he is yeah, but now
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the car jacking numbers are down in d C. But
this is not because of the National Guard. This is
because they have a very strong black female mayor in
d C. The difference with DC, the reason he was
able to take over is because it's a district. It's
not a consider yes, right, but Bobby, you know it's
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so many catch twenty twos to that. And I'm going
to explain him as soon as we come back from
this quick commercial break again. What you say about him
having too much power? If they allow him to just
keep moving like a steamroller, rolling over things and like
they allow him to do, You're right, Bobby, he will
look like a dictator, because it'll look like anybody who's
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afraid of who stands up to him. You're toast, You're done.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Some people want that. Didn't you hear him say that
this week? Some people want a dictator? Came right out
of the news conference and said, Ito, who I'm gonna
be the owl, the wise old owl? What person ever
said they want a dictator?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
People are Russia? So are they damn sure? An't here?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Our whole country was built on getting away from authoritatium.
Oh my god, I can't say authority. They don't want
a king, which is they consider a dictator an authoritarian?
I mean our whole tenants, the tenants, look at the constitution,
it was all. Nobody wants a dictator.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Donald.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I know you're throwing it out there, but we're talking
about it. I want to get back to where you are.
And I'm so sorry for interrupting you. What aren't we
talking about when he says something stupid ass.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Like that, everything else you want to have going, Oh
my god?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Can you believe you wouldn't want to have one person
have them anyway if we had the all the power.
And then we clearly see that when he's speaking, he's
going somewhere else a snap the season because you having
a moment of temporary whatever could ruin the country for real,
because you do know the codes. So it's just Bobby,
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I don't know, girl, I don't know. I don't know.
I quit. Can you do it? Can we quit?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
No, we can't quit. That's what they want, that's what
they absolutely want. They want you to quit. But we
don't want to quit.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I mean, there aren't so there is crime. So you know,
let's roll it back a little bit. Being somebody a
GOP that wants to reduce crime. It's not necessarily a
bad thing. Even putting out the National Guard, it's not
a bad thing. The way you do it, calling up
the mayor, calling up the police commissioner, asking if you
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can rund a hand or how about this, we sit
and we take a step back. What is the best
thing that we can can do. Because they both came
forward and said, you know, it's will take the help
in the right way. We'll take the right help at
the right time and the right way. We have historically
low crime numbers. But I mean, you and I have
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talked on this podcast before about how high Chicago, because
we're going to talk about that in a second, how
crime in Chicago is, how high violent crime in Chicago is.
But you have to have you have to speak to people.
You can't force it on them. You know, West Virginia,
South Carolina, Ohio are three states.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
They're all going to their leadership all says they want
the national Guard. They agreed to it.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
They said, yes, help us, help us in our way.
They're going to put their national guard out so they
can control the narrative and control the conversation. The way
that he's doing it, you know, Muriel Bowser came out
and said, we would have loved it, but you just
can't do this. And again, the way he does it
is so outrageous that that's what we talk about and
we're not talking about the crime. How about this stop
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cutting their money, giving them, give them more money, give
them money to put the social workers in place. Find
out what crime is. Here's a thought, wes Moore, his
crime is at a historic glow all over because he's
put he's got a systematic plan that he has put
into place. How about have all of our mayors and
governors or whatever sit on I don't care if it's
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a zoom call, versus actually come in, come into the city,
speak with wes Moore and see what they're actually doing,
and maybe he can assist in there's ideas and they
can roll it out. He is a disruptor. President Trump,
he is. That's what he has, That's what he is
known for.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
We can't allow it.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
We have to. People have to stand up to him
and say not in my city, or they don't want it.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
What wes Moore is the governor of Maryland?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Right, yes, yes, yes, handsome he was the military.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Well the problem where he wouldn't take advice from wes Moore.
And I'm just gonna call that because wes Moore is
a black man. Second of all, speaking speaking of powerful governors,
can I just talk about the most fantastic governor in
the fifty one or fifty two states. How many we
got fifty two to fifty three or fifty four. I'm
having a Trump moment anyway, A Gavin Knew Some of
(26:18):
the Governor of.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
California menopause flame. You're having a menopause.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Moment, Gavin the News to Governor Gavin new Some. It's
just the the bee's knees here in California. He is strong,
he is intentional, he is courageous, he is unafraid, and
he is not taking Trump shit. He is not backing down.
He is talking about counseling several money that we pay
because California pays one hundred and eighty billion dollars in
(26:45):
several taxes, more than everybody else that goes to the
red states that don't like California, the blue state. Baby,
if we stop sending y'all money, y'all want to have sons.
Y'all want to have white only towns. You surely will.
It's gonna be white bread only because y'all ain't gonna
have shit else, because we know said nothing else. I
wish the racism would go somewhere and dissipate, but Bobby, unfortunately,
(27:05):
we won't. Never not see racism or in our lifetime.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Now, it were not not with this administration staying in.
You know, I thought, but I naively thought, because I
don't see it and I don't travel, you know, in.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Crowds that I mean, I really just don't.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
See it that I just thought it was gone until
all of a sudden, It probably probably when George Floyd.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Just before that there were a few events and I went,
oh oh, and I just well, it was the last.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Time that this administration was in, not this particular administration,
only one of them. And then all of a sudden,
people started saying that the the the ugly parts out loud,
and people started feeling, and I thought it went a
certain way.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And it was okay.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
It was okay to be rude, it was okay to
be racist, it was okay to to be callous. And
it literally shocked me, same as I'm shocked now with
the Senate and whatnot, just not doing it in the
Supreme Court, not holding certain things accountable. I feel the
same way, you know about racism then, but it's going
(28:07):
to get better unless we move.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, but there is still some strength in these federal
judges because thank you President and Joe Biden for appointing
so many before you left office. There was a judge
that toss tossed out Trump's administrative lawsuit against maryland fifteen
federal judges. A federal judge on Tuesday threw out an aggressive,
unusual lawsuit the Trump administration brought earlier this year against
(28:32):
all fifteen federal judges in Maryland, rejecting a b by
the Justice Department to limit court power and fast moving
immigration cases. The opinion on Tuesday framed the lawsuit as
a major constitutional standout, for Judge Thomas Cullen, writing the
Justice Departments couldn't pursue a constitutional free for all. And
(28:52):
it was on CNN on a twenty six Bobby again,
if you stand up to the monster, the monster will
not stand by up to you, especially if your eyes
are dotted and your teas across.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
No, that's that's why the midterms to me flame, And
that's why I don't like the jerry mandering we were
talking about Newsome. I don't like that he's doing that.
He's tip for tat with the jerry mannery. But it's
got to be a fair shake. So and that's how
I feel about the midterms. I just want. I don't
care if it's the Senate or the House. I just
want the other side, regardless of what the other side was,
(29:25):
so that we have a check in a balance to
be in place. So in this case, I want the
Democrats to get one of them, and it's okay if
the Republicans have the other side. That's how it's supposed
to be. You check me, and I check you, and
nobody gets a looted. There are no dictators. Even saying
something as silly as that, he just we don't end up.
We end up talking about the stupid shit.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
You know, he was the Democrats, he was no.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Go ahead the Democrats had, the Democrats had the jerry mandate.
You cannot play You cannot play politically fair with Trump.
You have to get as dirt. It has time and
time again. I know you wanted to go the right way,
the right way, but it's not. You have to get
as dirty as he is. Nothing else works, and he
(30:14):
understands nothing else.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
No I know, And you know he was bragging and
it's like, no, everybody, I hope everybody is actually reading.
He was bragging about the New York Appeals Court and
they were overturning or they were cutting the five hundred
million for that fraud.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Case that he had.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
He wasn't He's still guilty of fraud. They didn't say that.
What the court said, the appeal court said is just
the five hundred million. It's just it's it's excessive, you know,
like they came up with the wrong number. It should
have been something that was lowered, like they reached for
five hundred bazillion dollars and you know, you can still
be guilty of the crime, and he is. But so
(30:52):
he's calling in a victory. See the appeals court. They're
saying that I wasn't wrong.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
No they're not. They're not saying you weren't wrong.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
They're just saying that Latica Letitia James, she went the
numbers too high. It should be more in line with
what your crime was. Maybe one hundred bill a million
would have been enough and it would have stayed the
way it is. He's not gonna pay it anyway, do
you know what I mean. So it's as long as
he's still you know, a fraud convicted of fraud, which
he is, that's all we really care about. Because he's
(31:19):
not he doesn't pay anything. I think that in speaking
of not paying, Okay, he might he might have a two.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
He might have a two for one stale long bibles
and sneakers.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I know, you know he it's funny. He wants everybody
to pay for his stuff or pay America, right, but
he doesn't want it the other way around. So we
started to talk, and I want to get back to it.
I don't want us to get off to get off it.
So nothing happened with Putin. The red carpet was rolled out,
which was really important for Putin to be taken seriously
(31:53):
on the world stage. And then I'm not going to
fault Trump completely because in his mind he's thinking, if
I stroke Putin and he's right, you know, make him
think he's important and we're on level ground and the
whole bit. You know, that'll the thoughts will keep going
because he also came out President Trump over the the
(32:17):
past few weeks during a press conference and said that,
you know, one of the reasons that this this is
so important to him, And I wish I knew which
press conference it was. I know I have it in
my notes somewhere. This is so important to this peace
deal because he wants to get to heaven.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
He's getting older and he wants to get to heaven.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
And you know, he's kind of low down on the
heaven list, and he thinks if he can broke a priest,
that will help him. Now, whether he said it as
a joke, I don't know, but but he was supposed
to put big sanctions. Do remember that's all we heard.
I'm not gonna be happy if it doesn't come out.
We're not going to be put big sensions. Nothing got done,
they had a conversation where there was no agreement, there
(32:59):
was no peace deal. But yet he is this week.
In fact, I think it started today. He's hitting India.
He threatened them he would with the fifty percent tariff
because they're buying oil from from Russia, which in honesty,
nobody in Europe should be, because Europe is the one
(33:19):
that's going to be that's going to be hit the closest,
if you know, if Poot loses his mind. Yep, we're
not putting sanctions. So does that seem fair? We're hitting
somebody else for doing it. Should be that way at all.
He should be hitting him with sanctions, and he should
be hitting up anybody in Europe that's that's continuing to
buy oil and gas from from Russia. But I'm like, no,
(33:44):
and it's gonna we're gonna. I don't know what we
really get. I know we get some medical devices, agricultural spices,
stuff like that from India.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
I don't know how we're actually gonna feel.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
It, but other than put Indian people, because there are
markets all over at least all of a message, people
are going to be paying more. They're going to be
paying more there for their for their cooman and whatever else.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Come back, Come back, Bobby, come back. The answer only
require forty five seconds. Good God, Jesus. Here's the thing, Bobby.
I had no expectations with him with Putin last week.
I didn't think that he was going to resolve it
because during the campaign his words were, I can stop
the war on day one. You never did. They won
(34:28):
and came and went a couple of times. You never did.
So I was not expecting anything like a kid in
the candy store. He was excited like a kid in
the candy store when Putin came over here and they
met it in Alaska. Now where I would not be
shocked about is if he did not sign Alaska back
over or sell Alaska back to Russia because it used
(34:50):
to belong to Russia.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Well, that would be tough. We wouldn't We wouldn't want to. Yeah,
we wouldn't want him above us.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
So they're too close, you know, then they can take
there because they have the biggest nuclear weapon, Arsenal. We
wouldn't want them like literally right over our heads. So
we'll see. He didn't get what he wanted though he
have you ever seen so during the press conference, if
people didn't pay attention anytime that that President Biden is up.
(35:14):
He likes to hear his own voice, as my sister
Teresa would say, not about she says it, just she
shows it about me. So he he always has it,
takes questions and answers. At the end, he hustled them out.
They didn't have their lunch, they didn't have they didn't
the press didn't get to ask anything because there was
nothing to ask. Nothing was nothing was done. Culton handered too,
(35:39):
because he was stroking the two of them know exactly
how to get he was stroking Trump. He said the
war wouldn't have happened most likely if Trump was in
and Biden was, you know, because Biden was and he
kind of slammed him there. You know, he got a
few good good cuts in, uh, but nothing.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
And and his people are saying that there's supposed to
be a big talk between Zolenski and Trump. They're not
putting anything on the books. We were leaving there and
he said, well, the next talk will be that we're
gonna have what we'll have to say. I don't see it.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I definitely believe that they have put presidents Lynsky out
to out to just float on out to see what happens.
I hate that too, because I hate that, but I
love that the fact that the President Lensky of Ukraine
and the Ukrainian people are fighting tooth and there to
the bitter end. They are fighting to the bitterer end.
It's tragic over there, but they are still fighting back.
And there's what you have that you have to fight
(36:35):
for yourself.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
You do, I mean, yeah, you do? There was Are
you ready for?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Are you ready? Yeah? I'm ready for that? Set it up.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
We still haven't got you guys on sending anything in.
But Slam had come across an article or she had
read something yesterday about the snoop dog in then at
the movies, and I thought that would be kind of
a good a good subject to kind of bring because
it's supposed to be kind of cultural and fun and
(37:09):
and and have your your your wit and your wisdom
kind of added to it. And this one, I just don't.
I think we are looking for backlash for anything. I
don't even get why people are about upset.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
With with Snup.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Don't get it.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
So so the story Snoop took. Yeah, So Snoop took
his grandson to the movies to see a cartoon Ladies
and Gentlemen. Uh, And then in the cartoon a buzz
light Year, one of the toy story films, which we
absolutely love, but it's one of the newer versions there
was there was the same six two moms couple. So
(37:48):
the kids like, how did they have a baby? So
Snoop said, the question caught him off guard, and that's
how he said. He didn't know what to say now.
And when Snoop put it out there, oh, is it
ignorance or is it I just don't know, because that's
what ignorance is. Sometimes you just don't know. They just
took that and ran with it, like made him homophobic
(38:08):
and he's transphobic and movabo. I'm like, no, he was
just saying, and I get from a parent's perspective. So
I made a whole video and they have sent it
up and they going crazy and this going that, and
I made a video. It was like, what if I
take my kid or grandkid to the movie and I'm
trans and I've identified with the community, I don't want
to have to explain to a kid that's five or
six years old at a cartoon about the birds and
(38:31):
the beach. We came to enjoy the damn cartoon. Now,
if the movie was waited are or if it was
ready PG, okay, then I know it might be something
that's appropriate. But going to the movies, and first of all,
it's not cheap. So if I take my kid to
the movies, it's twenty dollars for me, it's twelve dollars
for the kid. That's thirty two dollars. We get popcorn,
hot dog, nachos, goobers. Raising As a Minnesota that's probably
(38:54):
another fifty or sixty dollars. And I'm not exaggerated. It's
quite expensive to go to the movies. So that's a
hundred dollars right, go back. So I'm fifteen minutes then
too the movie. I'm watching a movie and then I
see something inappropriate. I can't even go back to a
friend and say, can I get my money back for
all of this? They're not going to give you a refund,
just like you cannot unring the bell. What he was
(39:14):
saying was I should not have to explain to a
young kid like this about a cartoon. We came just
to enjoy the movie, but they made it something that
it is not, Bobby, and it's just and I'm not
giving a listen. It's not even like I'm taking snoop side.
But as a parent, I don't want to have to
explain that I want to enjoy the damn movie. Am
I wrong, I'm out reaching? Or am I pandering?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
You're not paying?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
So many took me who don't have cheerwait mate, Bobby.
So many people who don't have children have spoken out
this topic. If you don't have children, I don't think
that you will ever really understand because what a parent
will give, will sacrifice, tolerate, and do for their child
when other people would have been gave up. You will
never unders saying that unless you have been put in
(40:01):
that situation as a painter. Okay, Bobby, here you go.
I think and no, no.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
And I agree.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I think this is to me multi layered. So first
of all, now you're coming to me as the grampy. Right,
you have no right to talk to your son or
daughter's kid about this particular subject. I understand Pixar trying
to make everything normal. They don't want them to ever
be a conversation, but there should be. From Pixar, in
(40:30):
my opinion, either come out and make some sort of announcement,
not even about this movie. Be aware that there could
be some and whatever it is, same sex, there could
be cultural things mentioned, racial things mentioned, go down, whatever that.
You want to make sure that you have the conversations
with your kid. I like that he came forward because
(40:53):
now people might actually have those conversations. You know, for
in five years, you've got grandkids and you're bringing them
to them. You might sit down with your your son
and daughters and say, Okay, what have you spoken about,
what lessons have you taught?
Speaker 4 (41:07):
How do we want to handle this?
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I think the kid has to be brighter than hell,
because I don't even know if I got a kid
that's almost middle aged if he even would have picked
up on it.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
So that's but I.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Don't think there's anything wrong with saying it. I don't
think it makes you anti LGBT. It just makes you shocked,
you know. It makes that the kid picked up on it,
and he didn't he wasn't prepared to know what to say.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
That's how I'm taking it, uh, and I agree hearts.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, I think that is what he's saying. By me
that it just knocked him off his feet. He was
taken aback like whoa, And he was just expressing that,
and they that that wasn't homophobic, that wasn't transphobic, none
of that. That was like, I'm just expressing, like and
then he put out a statement say, well teach me,
you know, I don't know. I'm willing to learn. But
(41:56):
they just took it and run with Grandwick because people
are still angry with you, one of the I'm still
angry with. Yeah, people are still angry with Snoop Dogg
because he dj that inaugural thing for Trump. But what
they do not know the Bockstawyer that yes, I learned
this from him and from Tiffany recently, is that he
donated a gang of that money to women's shelters with children.
(42:19):
He is for twenty five young men in the NFL
black Man. He still contributes money to this Alba Mater,
which is my daughter'sd Almamater Polytechnical High School here in
Long Beach. So he does a lot of good for
a lot of people. He's real big on helping the homeless,
especially better women and people and women and women's shelters.
But he don't talk about that, and they didn't give
(42:39):
him a chance to talk about that. I believe that
he would have made a statement after that whole Trump debacle,
but they were so relentless tearing him apart, Bobby, and
people forget that he's also a man. He's human, he
has a heart, he has feelings. All of that gangst
the persona up under all that is just a human
being who has feelings. I wouldn't have made a statement
(43:00):
because y'all, after all the words that y'all saying and
things that y'all said about him, he was coning he
was a sellout, he was this, that and the other third.
I probably wouldn't have made a public statement either, like, Okay,
think what you want to think.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Well, it's hard, and I think he's so.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Had he not made this statement three four years ago,
whenever it was, you know, anti Trump, I don't think
he would have had an issue at all. It's because
we had that. But I don't know how you come
back from that. Will you and I have talked about
this before. I don't I never understand why people are
so terrified of Trump. It's like, does he must have
some sort of satellite system in everybody's bedroom or something
(43:34):
that he's got information on everybody saying that and just
because I just don't understand, you know, I don't know
what the circumstances work because I wasn't privy, it was
in my business. But as far as this goes, you know,
I can see him. I think you just said that
teach me, and maybe that's it. Teach a kid, you know,
(43:56):
you can, you can come out with something that's sort
of big and open and because kids want an answer,
but they don't necessarily need to have the nitty gritty
answer flame you know, I don't know if five, four, five, six,
seven is the age to speak about sexuality. Would you
want me if I took your kids to the movies
talking about sexuality and giving them the nitty gritty to
(44:18):
your children. But if it's not what you believe, you know,
so I can see him kind of choking. I would
have said, ask your mother, or I would have said adoption.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
I mean, I would have Bobby, I'm trying, And I
would have been uncomfortable because what you want to do
is preserve your children's innocence for as long as you can.
It's definitely and the internet is going to grow them up.
But I would have been uncomfortable to Bobby. But I
mean I probably would have been, well, you know they
have mommy because my kids go to school. I would say,
(44:50):
you know, like the Jones is there's two dads or
there's two moms. But when you're when you're but I'm.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
That's actually agree, it's not yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
He is not of the community.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
So he was like, no, not kid, right, And it's
not his child. You can because you can make anything
up or say whatever you want when it's your own child.
But when you have responsibility for somebody else's and I
don't know if it was his, it must have been
his son's because I don't think his daughter has any
kids yet. You know, his daughter in law might be
super strict or whatever, you know, like you don't know,
(45:24):
we don't know.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
I think I think he brought it to light.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
I think that's important sometimes and now maybe maybe people
will actually ask some questions. Okay, I'm taking your kid
out and we're gonna go to X, Y or Z.
You know what do I say if? And people should
have those conversations. So anyway, I don't think there's anything
wrong with that. And did you say, speaking about fanning
(45:48):
the flame, did you did you see that President Trump
is all happy for Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey getting married.
He must be overhair for not not endorsing him. Remember
he was so mad and said she wasn't hot anymore and.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
She was a woke singer, you know she had. He
had a couple of comments. He must be over over
that because he gave them there his endorsement.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
He said all of that before, uh, like they were
looking Philadelphia and look he said all of that before
his friend went to Philadelphia and worked on those voting machines.
Oh catch that.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I'm like, Oh, they must say yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Let's let's let's get the dry clothing story.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Barbie, pay attention. That's what I'm going to say for
our elders. We've talked about this before. We've talked about
people trying to commit fraud on them, really crazy phone calls.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Well, now.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
Millions of people who are their social Security records could
be out because they're saving They copied a document and
they're saving it. It's like in the cloud.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
And people who are concerned about that, who say there
aren't enough protections, the administration says, oh, it's fine, people
are watching it.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Please don't give you a.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
Social out to any elderly or anybody. I want to
say this to any elder or anybody out here with
the elderly in their family, It's okay to hang up.
It's okay to just hang up. You don't have to
respond hello, this is how you just want a million dollars,
Just push in in the call. That ain't being rude.
I know some of us are elderly, were like, that's disrespectful.
(47:31):
Hang up on that ass. That way, you don't have
to deal with any of that bullshitting them, stamps, skins,
and scams. So teach your people that it is not
rude to hang up on people, especially when it's somebody
that you just don't want to talk to because you
know they're trying to trick you. It's okay to hang up.
That's not rude in this day and age.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
No, it's not right.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
And watch yourselff.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
You know there are all sorts of Yeah, there's all
sorts of apps and stuff that you can want your
pay attention to your credit reports. Make sure there aren't
false things that are on there. And I hate to
you you're going to have to help your your mom
while your grammy and your grimpy because you don't want.
It's pretty bad that the government has something that's that's
(48:11):
not super safe. That kind of makes me a little concerned.
But pay attention. Let's help our people pay attention when
you're in church. You know how we close their eyes
when we pray. We won eye open the.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Third at the third a blind ladies and gentlemen, listen.
Thank you so much for joining us. I'm so sorry
about last week that we had a hiccup. I love
you our great producer, mister Aaron. We just want to
give him my love and our blessings. But we thank
you guys for joining us here at Laugh and Learn.
You can catch me on the road. I'm still on
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(48:44):
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Speaker 2 (49:18):
During this time in our lives, ladies and gentlemen, is
August the twenty seven and in the world looks very scary.
But in order for the world not to look very scary,
we have to face the demon that we all helped create.
We all helped create this monster that we have. This
is the episode is gonna be called Frankenstan We're all
guilty of bits. Write that down, body, please, because we
(49:43):
created this monster if the moral of Frankenstein's movie was
Frankenstein was never the monster. Frankenstein created the monster, and
then one didn't want to face the monster he created.
All the Republicans that are now paying attention to oh
my god, we cut the core and it's crazy. It's
not too late. It is not too late for us
(50:04):
to get back our country before it becomes too late
to get back our country. So stand up for what's right,
stand up for people that you care about, the love.
They might not look like you, they might not think
like you, they might not even vote like you, but
we're still American citizens, and we got to hang in
here together because here to laugh a Learn. We don't
want to change your mind. We are not trying to
change your mind. We are only trying to get you
(50:27):
to use your mind, because why, Bobby.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
Your mind and your vote are a terrible thing.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
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you guys, Thank you Aaron. We will see you guys
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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