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June 20, 2024 50 mins

On this week's episode, Flame and Bobbi unpack the latest with the upcoming presidential debate, North Dakota considering age limits for lawmakers, partisanship, the need for unity and cooperation in politics and the importance of voting for effective leaders. They emphasize the importance of critical thinking, research, voting and much more. Tune in and comment in the socials below.

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Speaker 1 (00:28):
He shoot.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
If you watch the coffee Time the baby you know
the name Flame, my bro are so known as my
ro Flame. Come in with last and come in with
Jim love loundest. Baby, you better catch the wing. You
can drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics, shouting out comics,
just paying homage. What's up top? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
You know?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
She ready to shine towns on speaking to the grown
a second, we don't last kick it and at the
end we leave it with just a list the spirits.
Did you want to revisit? So your first second? Listen Jill, folks.
So it's oh fucking we did it good.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I know this.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Do what you do? Know this, Do what you do?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Know this, do what I do? Know this?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Boy.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Hey, hey, this is comed here, Flame of Role, and
welcome to this week's episode of Laugh Alone. We are
so glad that you came to join us this week.
Oh my god, I know you guys missed us from
last week. But better than that, we missed you. I
was on vacation. I went to the Dominican Republic. But
I am here today and guess who else is here?
My gorgeous, my beautiful, my I ca I can't co

(02:01):
host Miss Bobby.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh you I am? I am, I look like I'm
not even fully like dried out. It is hotter than
an old man's balls here in Boston ninety eight degrees
with one hundred percent humidity today.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
No, now, how would you know how how old man
balls how hot they get?

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well years ago I used to driving an ambulance, and
trust me, they complained a lot. And show them.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I was gonna say, that's those are powdered milk balls.
Those are power of the milk, those carnations. Bobby, look
at me, I'm all burnt up, peeling like a banana.
Oh my god, I.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Had like an Irish person.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I had the best time. I was with ten of
my ten of my friends. We celebrated my baby girl,
Cocoa and Cardier, who was a great friend of man,
my makeup artist, my hairsiled for so many years. She
turned fifty, she made it to the big five. Oh,
I told her away from me, I'll be there in
eleven years. Don't say shit, just roll with it. And

(02:57):
we had a We had a great resort we stayed in.
It was okay. The food there were at but the
memories that we have made were life like, life changing.
We had such a great time. I rode the ATVs,
I rode the zip lines, I jumped out of fifty
foot cliff into the one and to the ocean. It

(03:17):
was great. Oh my god. So now we're looking for
a place for me to go for my birthday next
year because it's a big one. My uh, it's my fortieth.
So yeah too, I want to go to the I
would love to go to the Mediterranean.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Oh my god, I would love that too.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I've always so we're looking, We're looking. I've always wanted
to see money Carlos since Princess Grace when she was
in there. But that area right there is super crazy expensive,
like crazy. Yeah, I ain't balling like that. I got balls,
but they ain't bolling like that. Good God. So yeah,
so that's the plan. And if you guys ever get
a chance to go to Dominic Republic, please do. The
people there were so kind and so loving and what

(03:56):
it made they were and it made me appreciate what
I have because those people were happy with little of
nothing they live. Would we would look at them as primitives?
Some of us would, because how we live now? And
when when I say that, not like we live in
Grand we're just living, you know, a lot of basic
stuff that we have, but they don't look at it

(04:19):
like that. Those people are so content Bobby, and was
kind a genuine kindness too, not because we were tourists,
but they were just nice people. And I thought that
was pretty great. So I'm glad I God show you
that because I can't get a little ungrateful sometimes, as
we all can, I can.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Be even grateful. I was grumpy today. I don't like Bobby.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
You're never grumpy, not you. I do.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I get grumpy when when like something sprung on me
and the other person had tons of notice to tell
you but just didn't bother, but just didn't bother telling you.
But I will tell you. That shirt is making me
not grumpy as far as the color, because I don't
want to brag. But the Indian Championship was won by
the Boston Celtic.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
I called that when I was in the I called
that when I was in the Dominic Republic. I said,
but I have not paid a kid to the Boston
Celtics since Larry Bird. Oh I'm telling about age.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's whole Kevin McHale, that whole U.
The Bean Mormon or whatever they used to call him. Yeah,
that whole group. Yeah that's sort of mine too, because
I feel like a lot of basketball players, not all
of you out there, but you could be little baby
bitches you can complain about, Oh I got a weggie

(05:35):
and you know my forty two billion dollars isn't enough
because you know I played with the weggie for half
the game, and are you kidding? You make a lot
of money.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Stop complaining and be happy, Okay, as and as much
as I hate a wedgie for for sixty minutes and
forty two billion, you can be it could be struggle
by ass the entire time.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Right, you got strap a giant song on me? Maybe,
so up for them together and I'll even run around
the neighborhood in it for forty million.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I love it. I love that they and those guys
play and congratulated to Dallas Mavericks too because they played
a good game. Maybe you play, They.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Really did and it really was. It wasn't boring because
sometimes those games. So I'm obviously a big Patriots fan.
I'm chewing those words lately, but I still love a
big Patriots slam but fan. But we won so much
some of the games used to not even be fun,
you know, because they were such an elite team. They
had such a great chemistry between them that it didn't

(06:38):
make it as fun to watch, you know, for when
they played Summer the lesser. But anyway between that and
Summer at Summer starting tomorrow, I'm like, whoa, who got
to get mental piece?

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Let me start off the show by saying we lost
a legend. And when I say allegend, I'm talking of bonafide,
genuine down in the dirt, from not only from not nothing,
but from a black person who had the break of
ceiling a barrier to get in with the elitist baseball player. Legend.

(07:13):
Great Willie Mays passed on Tuesday, well yesterday, at home
with his family, quiet, just to sleep. Yeah, and a
hell of a ball player. I'm not even a baseball fan,
but I've been watching how the news and so many
personal stories they've been talking about other players that worked
with him, how kind he was, how professional he was,

(07:36):
and how amazing he was on and off the field.
That speaks volumes when they can say kind things about
you when you're not in your job, when you suggest
with them but you're not actually doing your job and
people still like you. That is pretty great body. It is.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
That's why in twenty fifteen you got the Medal of Freedom,
right because it wasn't just about his athleticism. It was
about the work that he did outside the diamond as well.
So I thought that was.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
I was sad too, but ninety three you can't blame him.
And then the other one that I saw that was
and I was not a big Simpson fan, but I
think her name is Nancy mackenzie. She was the voice
of March Simpson. She passed away at eighty one.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, so those are two for the week. Yeah, he
was eighty one.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Bobby eighty one.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, and mind you, she was still working. Yeah. So
while y'all was talking about the president is eighty one,
guess what, he's still working.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
He's still working. He still is. And as far as
every time I see him and I see him speak
to me mentally, he's sharp as attack body wise is
the older. Yes, he has slowed down. I do think
he might have a little trouble like that. He's a
little slower with his speech. I think it's because when
you're young, you have the stutter, and I think as
he's getting older, he has to think about his words

(08:53):
before he's saying them, so he doesn't because that will
be another weakness.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Right, hey, a lot I have to do that. We
live in crazy Cristis time. Anyway, we're gonna we're not
gonna get on biting right now, we get we come
back to body. Let's keep it rolling down the scroll
by where we're at, where we're going, let's.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Start at the chop. So the first thing that we're
gonna be happy we have the big countdown is eight
days until the first presidential debate. Do you think it's
gonna happen?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Oh yes, oh yeah, well I and before I thought,
now let me, let me, let me you be my
whole end.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, I said yes.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
But then when things started going a little right, I
thought Trump was gonna pull out because he's gonna feel
like I don't need to do it because but since
he has been convicted, and since he has came out
and said the horrible things about Milwaukee and then tried
to retract them, I've been looking at MSNBC and I
think people's mind shift is changing. Not to say that

(09:46):
they are just in support of Biden, but I think
people are tired of the chaos, the chaos and the foolery.
And when I say people I'm talking about, I think
I'm talking about white people. I believe that white people
that even Republicans or that just really supported him. Racism
is still going to be here. That's not going away
with no time soon. But I think the chaos of

(10:08):
not being able to live melodically together because we always
had the racism, but we lived in harmony because we
knew how it worked. He made it too chaotic. I
think that's how I think people don't want to deal
with that no more. And he's getting caught in both
faced last and then he froze last week. He called
Joe sleepy Joe, but he was all off topics, some

(10:28):
about Titanics and sharks and boats and batteries and ten yards.
I'm like, oh my god, he losing it, y'all. He
losing it.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
He really is. I just think I think this part
to me, I mean, I hope it's not going to
be in my opinion, in Bobby Cliffer's opinion, it's not
going to be beneficial to him because he plays to
the audience, right. So one of the things that we
can all agree on is that he's entertaining in the
crazy talk, the shock and the this, and everything is

(10:57):
wonderful and everything is the best that he does, and
all this banana cakes with no audience and with the
two moderators able to shut him down, you know, on
a dime. If he tries to talk over, I don't
know he's going to actually have to know and talk
about policy. Flame, I don't know if he can do that.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well, no, because it won't matter what they hear him.
He has to do. He is so braggadocious and so bold,
He's going to do what he wants to do. Anyway.
He'll he'll yell if he has to, they turn his
mic off. That's just who he is. But that's what
I want people to see. I want people to see
who he really is. And I hope Biden stays calm

(11:42):
and concide and delivers right to the good every time.
I hope so do.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I will tell you though, his campaign, President Biden's campaign
is coming out with some new commercials, and they're commercials
that have to happen. But I still don't like it
because it's not Joe, you know, talking.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
About you know, well, I hear you. But he got
to get in the dirt. When you play with the piece,
you got to get in the dirt. You do.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Because nobody believes that he tries to hold his head
high and the other side thinks it's weakness. They don't
realize it's actually his strengths.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
But oh, go ahead. He should have been Nancy Pelosi.
He was debating against My girl would have my girl
would have win. My girl would have went hay, she
would have she.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Would have eaten them up and spent about do you see?
Oh my god, Because because we are getting close to
the debate, that's Steve Bannon. He drives me crazy. He's
supposed to be going to jail and he's looking for
appeals and I wanted to wash his hair.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
I want I want him to go to jail and
drop the soap, please.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
I God, there's something about that that that rubs me
completely the wrong way.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
I don't like if I did. They know, they didn't
did all this dirt, and they think that they can
get away with it because of immunity. A lot of them
really only want him back in there because and here's
how dirty, Here's how dirty. But here's how dirty. He is,
they would have to continuously kiss his butt and to
get that part and didn't even steal exactly. But he

(13:20):
still might say I'm not doing it.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Because that's how that's how he gets them. That's what
he That's what he did to Cohen, right. I mean,
he was up for the first time since since January sixth.
He was up on Capitol Hill last week. I saw
the most uncomfortable to me a handshake from Mitch McConnell.
Leaning over, Mitch McConnell said that he was this, that,

(13:44):
and the other for January six but all of a
sudden there was a big, long, awkward, awkward handshake that
that was. It was nauseating to me.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Here's the question, the Mitch know whose hand he was shaking,
you know the heel man freeze up see if you
but he but he Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
In the same week he h Trump haad have his
pre sentencing, you know, kind of kind of crazy. I didn't. Well,
the whole thing is just he he can't beyond his
revenge and persecution tour any longer because Hunter Biden was
was convicted on all three accounts and has taking it
on the chin is accepting whatever they say that's going

(14:23):
to happen. His father is not going to commute the
sentence or pardon them. He's been very, very out there
with it. And I do think you have to pay
for crimes. But I think when jeez, you you brought
the crimes up, You've paid your bills, you talked about
it years ago, and now all of a sudden it's
coming back and you've got your life on in order.
I feel badly. You know, we're supposed to be so
sensitive to addicts, and it this this, this really this

(14:47):
and and trump'sy trial even it wreaks the politics so
much it's it's nauseating.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I want to say about Biden Hunter Biden being convicted.
I love that the family came, that Jill was there right, yeah, doctor,
and she was late but she thinks she was eight
minutes later or something like that. Yeah. I love that
she's that shows so much support and that we still

(15:14):
believe in you. You know, mistakes happened. I like you
about He's only this mistake. He's not wining to complain
about it. And his dad, who is his still his
father all who shows that he loves his kids, but
he is also the president of the United states, he
has an obligation to the American people. He is not
just gumming on his key aside. He is really just.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
The wrong because he was wrong. He did those things.
He was wrong. I'll tell you the one thing that
I didn't like during the trial, and I'm sure that
the attorney suggested it. I didn't like that he brought
his daughter in. I thought it was like, I felt
like it was a manipulation. I don't know some of
the questioning. I don't know if the prosecution or the
defense brought her in, but I thought that was it

(15:57):
left a bad taste in my mouth. I think he
could face Yeah, twenty five years in prison and seven
hundred and fifty thousand dollars. He's the first time offender.
You probably won't get that, but but yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
He'll get probation. He'll play the fan, but I think
he'll get probation.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, and then he's got his in September. He's got
the he's got the next one in September. Right, So,
which I was hearing some of the talking heads, some
of the attorney talking heads speaking about it, and they said,
for taxes, if you have been convicted of a crime,
the chances of is serving jail time are fairly high.

(16:35):
But I but I so, I I like how he's
taking it. I think he's taking it on the chant.
They're saying, get some sort of maybe settlement with the
taxes ahead of time. Don't let it come till September.
Have his attorneys try to work something out, because he
could get actual jail time for that. So anyway, But
but Joe's killing it. So some of the things that

(16:55):
I noticed that that he has done over the past week.
He's still working on the student loans. The other thing
that he's working on is he is proposed banning medical
debts from credit scores. So he's working on getting something
moving for that. And that's big for people. You know,
it's amazing how your deck can be sold and sold
and sold and sold and sold. So for people who

(17:18):
have illness, who usually don't make a lot of money
because they're on SSI or Medicaid and for the insurance,
et cetera, et cetera, that that could be huge. So
I like that that that's happening. He had a big
fundraiser out in your area with Julia Roberts and George

(17:38):
Clooney and.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Did you see that Obama?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
And President Obama? Well, you know, I just love him.
He's still depth of swag. Did you see one of
his service his secret service people were robbed?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
I saw that you wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Be stupid enough to steal the bag of a secret
service agent that just by some sort of like gunpoint
or something.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
See you see me? And you look at that situation
in two very different ways, Bobby, because I wasn't like that.
I was like, well, if you can't protect your damn staff,
how the hell you over there?

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Well, because I'm thinking, I'm thinking that's what he was doing,
he or she because it was a bag, so you know,
I'm taking bag a woman I'm thinking to talk about.
But it might not be. I think they took it
on the chin and didn't start a scuffle because they
wanted to, you know, the president was inside or whatever,
but more informational snout. But they don't have the police

(18:32):
in the area say there's no there's no suspect yet
or anything, So it's not I would think some magical something.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
In that situation that big brother was watching. She seems
to be watching my Instagram page all the day time,
and I ain't even supposed to be no president, so
I will hope they got some camera footage somewhere, yep.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Something.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
But when I looked at when I heard that, Bobby,
I was like, well, damn, that might not be the
best story to tell. You can protect your bag, how
are you going to protect that president?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I am not sure whoever it is, because I'm sure,
I mean, it's such a small community. They're probably humiliated,
you know that that's not so great. He also, since
we've left tot Biden, he spoke about gun violence, you know,
on the heels of wan So going to scotus them
voting against a ban that Trump in twenty seventeen put

(19:25):
forward for those bump stocks. Clarence Thomas is the one
who wrote the wrote the piece on it and said
that they are not that it never should have been banned.
They're not machine guns. From anybody that's using it. They say,
once you clip it on, it's a semi automatic to
begin with, you can just empty eclipse. So isn't that

(19:45):
I don't understand enough of it to be quite honest.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Clarence Thumb's name good gun.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
I just can't even imagine. I mean, it seems stupid.
And then the Senate Republicans blocked the Democrats trying to
put a ban on it. So if we can't do
it at this you know, Scotus level, they tried to
put some sort of billain and that got blocked. And
I don't know why that is because again their fearless
leader is the one that put it in, you know.

(20:11):
I so this is going to be the far right
meg people, not.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
The positive on Biden's watches. What they I think that
must be their letter here. There's super cold nothing positive
on Biden's watch. I believe that. I believe that that
is their whole agenda.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
I mean, the only place they can't stop it is
there are certain states, California being one of them that
it's banned at the state level. So there there are
I think there. They said that there were like fourteen
states that banded themselves, so thank god for that. But
sweet and Mary, and this is on the heels of
a whole bunch of gun violence that we saw over
the weekend. Over the Friday's Day weekend, there were two

(20:49):
people at fourteen others two killed, fourteen others shot at
some June Teaenths celebration in Texas. You were saying something
about Chicago Boston. We had a bunch, Boston had some.
Michigan had nine people, including two children, that were shot.
So you would think that I don't know that we

(21:09):
could actually come together on.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Chicago past weekend. My love my beloved city. I love
my city. But good god, they had forty six shootings
and seven deaths. It's just it's just been bananas with
the way these guns and how are these kids getting
hold of these guns? If they got all these gun
laws where you have to have ID, you have to
wait to be approved, and you have to wait for

(21:32):
understand sprints. I don't understand why all these But uh,
that's only some states.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Though, honey. Remember I mean there were states like Florida.
You can go in just like you're going to buy
a purse and come out and have no check. I
don't even know if you get a name. You just
go in and you purchase and then you walk. And
there are many states that are like that, and so
I don't but I don't know if these are all
those well, Texas is one of them. Something that I

(21:58):
was seeing when I was watching my Sunday show is
I mean, we really are neck and neck and people
have to pay attention because the polls are they're within
one point. And in the key battleground states, there was one.
It's funny where by where President Trump was winning, now
Biden is winning by one, and where Biden was winning
by one or two, the other one and so they

(22:19):
kind of flip flopping. So people really have to go
in and do their homework, pay attention, do you who
you're voting for, and make your decisions.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Trump is about to pull a Nikki Haley. I do
the more he speaks, the further away from the White
House he's going to get because I think people are
really getting fed up with the chaos. And I didn't
think that two weeks ago. I did. I thought that
he was pretty much.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
I think that they will do it. I think if
he can't pander to his people, I think that he's
going to be in trouble. People are going to see
that he's so Joe can keep it cool and keep
it energized. He can speak policy out his ears all day,
you know, and he can pull it from wherever, Whereas
former President Trump is not a politician and has always

(23:12):
has trouble. It's weakness for him speaking about policy. So
we'll see, we'll see what happens after that one. But
I'll tell you something I had read last week was
North Dakota is the first date to try to approve
age limits for lawmakers. We'll see if it goes through.
I don't know if you know if it'll get voted,
but they actually put it out, so it obviously it's

(23:34):
it's to speak on both of them, because I wouldn't
mind that.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
I would mind. I wouldn't mind that we got some
dinosaurs up in there for real.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
As long as they're doing their job and doing something.
Because people will say age limits, and I'm like, you know,
we're going to remember people. We're going to vote them in.
They don't just float up there like they do in
the Supreme Court. We have to vote him in every time.
See if you're unhappy about the age or you feel
like they're not doing something. This is the lead productive
Senate and Congress in history.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Don't vote for them if you forget.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Them oka ahead.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I'm I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I'm just gonna say, if we can't get them to
work together like we taught them in kindergarten, our children
work and play well with others. If we can't get
them to do that. It's time that they hit the bricks.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
I don't like that the parties are so divided right now.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I don't remember the con never it's.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
One did not get it. I mean, they did not
always agree on positivele I've never seen them. It's almost
like a silent hatred. I don't I don't like that.
I've never seen anything.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
And it's the fire Right, it's the Squad, and it's
the far Mega people because they didn't I'm gonna now,
I'm gonna age myself. But we used to have Tip
O'Neil in the house, right, Teddy Kennedy, and then you'd
have McCain and Biden and they would battle it out
on the floor during the day, and then they'd go
and have a steak and a barbon at night and say, okay, flame,

(24:57):
I know you want X y Z for yours and
I want EX for mine. I'll vote for you, you
vote for me, we'll figure it out. And then it
was never strictly party line. Now it's like i'd say,
since President Obama, we first started seeing it where they
literally just vote vote against them, just to vote against them.
You know, that was theirs the first but which is disappointing.

(25:20):
That's not what we pay them. These these people, it
might not be huge money, but I believe they make
one hundred and seventy five thousand a year. They've run
two households on that, remember, But still I'm a little
I'm a little disgusted. Let's let's worry to you.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Where I do know about that, about all this division
and uh you said something that it was a trigger
word for me for our next topic about something that
I hope they do get control of it. Like down
here they're passing the law about these damn cell phones.
That's something as a surgeon general is talking about putting
a warning yep on doing on the social media. I

(25:55):
think that that is brilliant and that it should have
been on there from a long time.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I love with that mercy. I think he's terrific.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
And I think they're talking about taking it out, taking
those phones out the schools, which I think will be
getting these kids back to learning because they are not learning.
My daughter is completing guilty of it as well. I
get so many emails about she's on her phone in class,
so she's listened to she's doing this. So I think
it is a brilliant idea. And if I tell you,
that's one bill that I hope passes, I hope it
passes well.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
He did not that. I think it was in the
New York Times and it was pretty interesting. I only
got through the first half. I have to go back
and read the other. But I dit it. He wants
it just to be like cigarettes and alcohol. You know
that they're selling and put it right on there and
as long as people are forewarned.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Oh that's what you said about it. I'm sorry, I
got my train my thought back when you said that
they were the most unproductive party partisanship. Yeah, because of
social media. They're so busy fighting on social media, and
then they won't bring the real issues to the floor.
They are arguing about what they've read about each other
like children. So I'm also thinking that if you're going

(27:04):
to remove cell phones from that make all the Congress
and the Senate not be able to be on social media,
because if that is what you're going to do, and
then you're not getting anything productive done for the country.
You are hired as a public service to take care
of the American citizens. That is not what you're doing.
You're acting like proper room school children up in this classroom.

(27:26):
So they're too.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Busy worrying about getting re elected and they're not actually
doing anything. I wouldn't reelect anybody right now for not working.
And you know, I constand it. And each side is guilty,
you know, like the squad can can on the Democratic
side can be just as detrimental as Marjorie Taylor Green.

(27:49):
They just they just hold their heads just a slightly higher.
The g seventh Summit happened last week. I think every
saying was the Pope Francis one, which I was actually
kind of shocked. He was talking about artificial intelligence intelligence.
There was a ten year agreement between President Zelenski and

(28:14):
the United States that the United States will keep backing
them the aid that they did give, and that's something
we want to talk about. It's not actual money. Everybody
thinks we're giving millions of dollars to Ukraine. We're not.
We're getting weapons, weapons that were made here in the
United States by by citizens here in America. So they
got paid, they got a job, It provided jobs, and

(28:35):
then you know, those weapons and machinery then go over
to go over to Ukraine. I don't know what that
ten year deal is going to look like if President
Biden doesn't get in to honor it. But overall it
seems like that it was it was a productive time.

(28:57):
Biden also spoke to Nance's president is a macron Macron
Macron about frozen assets of Russia's and releasing those assets
and giving those over to Ukraine too. So it seems like.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
That's not the piss off of Russia right now, because
I saw today that Kim Jong yung, the president of
North Korea, and and and putin the business the monster
of uh of Russia have joined forces, funded the treaty,
shook hands, rode in the same car together. And those
are two of my biggest adversaries girl.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
And they already have They already have Russian naval ships
off of the coast of Cuba. They can see them
from Florida. So if you don't want to say that
somebody's flexing muscle there, they certainly are. That said, uh,
you know, hopefully we're you know, we're on our chosen
as the whole the military, we're more sleeping at night,

(30:02):
they're up worrying about this stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Well, speaking of the military, I see that they're trying
to pass the bill to draft young men eighteen to
what it is, eighteen to thirty.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
They're just talking about it. US says they will not
do it. But there has been a huge depth and
people going into the military. But you and I have
talked about that over the past year on law and
learned we're not going to call it military. We'll call
it people doing service. These young people, we don't see
people jumping into the Peace Corps anymore, going into the military,

(30:34):
going into jobs to do service.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, I'm not going to blame the young people that
I'm gonna tell you who they what they have seen.
They've seen how Americas treat their veterans, and they figured,
why would I fight for the country and then You're
not gonna even take care of me? And I believe
that is one of the biggest downfalls that America has
not upheld and uplifted and showed their veterans loved. Those

(30:58):
people put their lives on the line, them lost their laves,
some of lost their damn man, baby PTSD. You lose
an arm or lay your eyesight, your ability to walk
because you believed in fighting for a country that you
thought would take care of you. Because you took care
of it, and it's the improven that they won't. So
that's I think that's why that's a big deal. By
be honestly, I think.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
We just don't train our kids. And I'm not saying
it's bad. We're not. We don't build those jobs up.
We don't build teaching, we don't build, we don't build
the trades. We're so desperate for people to be into
the trades. Desperate, desperate, desperate. I will want to do
want to tell President Biden for that. I believe it
was in December he gave the military the biggest pay

(31:39):
increase that they've had I think was in ten years.
So that's good. And he's also working on housing and
for what happens next with the military. But he's he's
even though everybody wants to they say they want to
support them, that divisiveness comes in again and they kind
of they kind of they kind of agree on anything.
But at least he's bringing the conversation.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
For well, let's talk about the gender issues that have
happened in Florida. Whether the judge is rude that the
restrictions on gender firming care for both minors and adults
in Florida are unconstitutional and cannot be enforced. So this

(32:20):
is for the youth and the team that they can.
They can still get gender firming care.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yes, for right now. Because remember everything, everything is sort
of rolled into it. It would have been nice if
things were passed a little differently. I think when you
have to change something, you have to take all of
the protections away. You know so much. It would be
nice if care was one thing. And so at this point,

(32:47):
I think they're leaving it up to all those puberty
blockers or something they call them. I think if they're
leaving it up to the parents, which I hope.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
To God, Well, I thought that I thought that should
have been the place anyway. But I also thought that
that should be an age cap on when you can
start them. But who I'm not a legislator or a lawmaker,
they're saying.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
The Supreme Court. Well, I think I'm just an experience.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
I'm just an experienced trans person who knows that life
changes in intervals, and you will change your man in
the next three or four years. Some things you cannot reverse.
So that is all I'm saying. You think that you
wanted today and you're fourteen, and then when you're nineteen,
you don't want it anymore. But some things that you
don't want at nineteen that you did at fourteen because

(33:34):
you didn't have an actual parents to tell you no,
that you might regret. That's it, but.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
It's the if we need people to be parents, and
so many, so many people are their kids and their friends,
we need them to actually to be parents. The only
thing that I can say is, you know, again, this
is going to go to the Supreme Court. You know,
justsantus is is new Ways is going to let this go.
I ensure that he has some sort of some sort
of appeal in place. But it kind of interesting in

(34:05):
Florida of all places. That was the other thing I
was a little shocked at. I'm like, you got to
be kidding me. I think of all the places in
the world that certainly wasn't going to be it. Did
you see that to finish up with the Supreme Court
that Thomas Justice Thomas had to disclose his his his

(34:26):
gifts and trips since twenty nineteen two point four million.
He got the bulk of them from some benefactor Holland Crowe.
I don't know who Holland crow is.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Who is the puppet master, because I'm sure every decision
that holand Crow wants him to make, he makes.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Oh I am too. I mean, and this brings up
the way that the Constitution and our forefathers wrote everything.
Just like they never thought that they'd have to say
that you couldn't be a president if you'd be a felon.
They never thought that the Supreme Court, whould be the
Kreme de la Creme, would be making these these bad decisions.

(35:05):
But do we need to have some sort of guardrails
right now? They self police, who would write them? Who
would police them? Do we give the chief justice.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Since we're in the playground of the Supreme Court, Bobby,
let's go to the justice the lego tapes and yeah,
and all of that. Yeah, let's do it. Come on, Bobby,
you lead on that. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
So that so I kind of was I don't know.
I didn't I said, I didn't feel a certain kind
of way I did it first, And then my mind said,
because they had this a contict of her name I
haven't written down here somewhere. She's a documentary filmmaker who
went into some sort of conservative religious gala and pretended

(35:48):
that she was a religious super religious conservative, and she
kind of led them down a path. She spoke with
Thomas and his wife, She spoke with Alito and his wife,
and she's spoke. She spoke with roberts By himself. So
Alito kind of said, yes, you wish she could, you

(36:09):
could get religion back a little bit, you know, if
you want to say he was naughty. She spoke to
the wife that Martha Ann she has a pistol. I
actually thought, after hearing it, I'm sort of glad she
did it, because after listening, you know how he said
in the beginning, it was my wife. My wife put
up the flags, and we all said, bullshit, No, he's

(36:31):
a nut. You got a flag for everything she's got.
She's got a sacred hot flag. She's gonna be, and
she's gonna be. That's the one with the baby Jesus
that has the heart on it that a lot of
grandparents will stick on their's. That flag she's gonna hang up.
She she feels she was done wrong by the neighborhood
and she's gonna fly a flag. So then it had

(36:51):
me kind of thinking, I think that she should just
pull them down because of who her husband is. But
just like is it merchant the judge. He had a
daughter for the for the New York trial for Trump,
he had a daughter who is Democrat and has worked

(37:12):
for Democrats. Does she have a right to have her
own opinions and then her father have the right to
so I don't know. I feel, I feel I feel
a little conflicted this.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
With this, it's different. It's different when it's a father
and daughter. Bobby, there's a clear lack of respect in
the Alitos home. All she doesn't She does not respect
her husband for who he is and the position that
he's in, and he does not respect his wife because
the Bible said a man is supposed to protect his wife.
He said it was her, but that was throwing her

(37:42):
under the bus to me, and I'm with you, we agree,
even though we didn't know that. Like you said, she
was a pistol. But there's a lack of respect on
both ends and that house in that household, and it's happened.
But the problem is the collateral damage is US American citizens.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
It's just it's just it's a bad look, do you know,
Like it's a bad look.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
She should be he should be pulled off a lot
of ship and she used to be checked. I hope
the neighborhood. He asked for the ads.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Some lights of dog, you know, are on her her
friend stoop.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
No.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
I mean that is what the recordings did for me.
So the other thing that I thought, so Thomas and
his wife like they were you know, you would expect.
I only heard actually from him. I didn't hear anything
from the wife, although they said the filmmaker, by the way,
is Lauren Windsor. I apologized, it didn't have that at
my tip of my tongue. But but she was trying

(38:37):
to bait Roberts about about making decisions and this that
and the other, and religion and how we want to
make this a Christian country. And he said, no, no,
I don't know if my Muslim or Buddhist friends would
feel that way. He goes, the only thing that the
court's supposed to do is to listen to the cases
and make the best decisions that they could. That's the

(38:58):
answer you want. That's the like I wish Alito said that.
That would have been the answer that you'd want to hear.
So I said, geez, he you know, he's walking the
walk and talking the top. I wish you'd say something
to the two of them about maybe recusing themselves or
et cetera. But but we'll see.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Well, but we know what's going on, and we've heard it,
and what we're gonna do about it.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, well that's it. We need guardrails. So if they
only sell police, maybe maybe justice, chief justice, whoever is
in that position, maybe we got to give them a
little more power, or we have to spell it out.
We have to say, flame, you cannot accept above. My
postman can't take more than twenty five bucks. If you're

(39:47):
getting a gift, it's only x amount of dollars. If
you work at one of the academic hospitals in Boston,
you can't take any gifts. I couldn't take a pack
of peanuts from anybody. I would have to return it
and say no, I can't take a pen from a vendor.
So maybe we need we need some someone to write

(40:07):
them up. I don't know who that would be, but
we need a little bit of that done. They are
going to be handling. They did the Oh I'm not
going to say the right thing. Is it miss a prone?
It's the morning after pill. Basically, they everybody is happy
thinking that there was some sort of big win, and
it's not really a win. So they voted against the

(40:29):
use of against the banning of the use of it
because the team that brought it, that were bringing the case,
if they didn't feel that they had the right to
bring it, so it could be brought again. Of course
it will take years to get there. But so everybody
right now can take the pill and there's there's no
issue with that right now, and.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
That's the plan, right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
It's I don't know, I'm killing it, but they did
vote on that. We're waiting to hear before they go
on break. I think they work for nine months and
they're off for three months. We're waiting on them immunity.
Uh so hopefully that will that will kind of come
true and then you know, fingers crossed, we'll see. I mean,

(41:12):
it's not that it's going to make a whole help. Well,
it'll make the cases that are going to happen in
the fall if he if he doesn't get in, they'll
still come forward. If he had immunity, all that could
actually kind of go away. Right, So that I'm looking,
I think that's I think that's everything that we have
on the and it doesn't look like that they're gonna

(41:33):
they're actually gonna sign off on him getting the immunity.
He's not gonna doesn't look like they're gonna win. He's
gonna win on that one. And then Mike Johnson's all
upset over the New York K so he wants to
hear it.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
I thought I didn't like McCarthy. I really don't like
this Mike Johnson.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
He is he's whipped. They're all whipped. They and you
know who who I don't like is U? Is it Donald's?
So that Byron Donald's he's.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
From South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Good god, oh he should be he needs the Supreme
Court has a step in. They're not. It's a state case.
There there are differences of cases. So when we're talking
about state cases and we say Supreme Court, we mean
the state's supreme court. We don't mean the actual SCOTUS.
So I don't know how the Supreme Court is going
to step all over us a steakcase. But yeah, but

(42:23):
the two of them, the Byron Donald's, that that's what
they've been both moaning about. And then Speaker Johnson's going
to move in. He's moving to federal court over the
Merrick Garland he wants those recordings. Why he's got the transcripts.
I don't know why he needs the recordings.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
It's Byron Donalds is Oh, let me get back there.
And Joy Reid destroyed him the week before last talking
about Hans. He's a handsome, dying Black people were in
households when doing the Jim Crow era. And you sit
here very too, a conservative white woman sits your stupid
ass down. Good God, who do these? Oh?

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Joy read? I like Joy read.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
And you sit here mirror. And it's not that I
don't care if you love is love. Love ain't no color.
But she don't even think like you? And you but
you in South Carolina, you couldn't have been with it
during the Jim Crow era. You damn si couldn't married
that white woman.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
You couldn't have sat together. You couldn't looked at her,
You couldn't held her hand.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
He needs to be taken back in time. And they
didn't let him let him hold her hand. And see
what happened to him when he get it. That he
would get it, He would get it. Ladies, gentlemen, listen, well,
appreciate you here and laugh and learning. This is a
this is we are five months away from the most
life changing, the uh election of your lifetime. Amen, because

(43:39):
good God, and I don't want you all to make
a temporary last in judgment because you think that oh
I did better under this watcher did and it's going
to turn out to be a permanent disaster. Don't let
a temporary situation make this a permanent disaster, because that's
what it will boil down to. And it will affect Bobby,
it will affect my dam, it will affect me, and

(44:01):
it will affect you.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
And pay attention if we can say anything because of AI,
Like Apple is putting out this whole big AI thing.
They're now the most valued company. But we're going to
be fed so much over the next five months misinformation
and a lot of it is going to have AI involvement.
So before you believe what you're seeing, you know, vet it,
go in and look at some other sites, Go and

(44:25):
look at stuff first, you know, just don't believe everything
that you're hearing from everybody, including your friends, people people.
You can have five people in a row hear the
same see the same thing happen and come up with
live stories.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
And listen with me and Bobby were not the oracle.
We have to end out to be all. You know,
research for yourself. What we do is just put it
out there so you can research for yourself. And if
there's any topics the situation that you want to talk
about or that you think that you want us to
discuss with your name and man, go hit us up
on Instagram. At laugh Aline podcast, Bobby is right there

(44:57):
to get it all. Don't send nothing explicit because you
know see things no point you said at the Monroe Flame.
But thank you guys for joining us here and laughing.
I listen this season four. We are so grateful to
have you guys. And oh body, that's not you something else.
But I don't know why I want. Let me do
something with her.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
But did you get the second what I just said?
I didn't pay attention.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
We'll make sure you got it, okayenth I was getting
there happy June tenth. If you're unfamiliar what juneteenth is.
Juneteenth was the slaves were emancipated in eighteen sixty three,
I believe, or was it sixty five? Yeah, in sixty three.
But the Galveston, Texas did I tell the slaves? They didn't.

(45:45):
The slave owners did not tell their slaves that they
were free for two years. They worked them for free,
did everything they wanted to do to them for two
years until they were emancipated. Could you imagine.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Bobby even longer in Oklahoma? But at the time Oklahoma
was only a territory, not a state, So there are
other places that got away with it too. No, I
can't imagine owning somebody. I can't even tell my kid
what to do. He doesn't listen to me. Can't tell
my dog I say, Sidney looks and says fuck you
and walks away.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
The dij that lady said that was horrible words. I
love it anyway, So people who when they found out,
they celebrated. And for years we didn't hear about jan
June tenth and the history books and Movau. So we
celebrate June tenth. We celebrate our ancestors that had to
put up with that and went through that, and the
people who remembered it. And thank you for all the

(46:32):
people who have remembered it, because sometimes the stories won't
be in the books. Sometimes you really have to listen
to an elder to tell you what they went through
and what it was like. And we have no respect
for our elders over here. But thank you to whoever
and whomever has made Juneteenth and national holiday.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
President Biden. See he signed it in President Biden on
six I mean sixth, seventeen twenty one, signed it into law,
the June Tent International Independence Act, making a national pub
public holiday. So thank you, President Biden. And there was
a woman that had pushed to bring me information. I
don't have her name off the tip of my tongue,

(47:11):
and she's an elder, and he worked with her and
I got it. I got you know, I think it's terrific.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
And she's ninety eight years old, right something like that.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
She's in her nineties, I know that. And she had
been pushing it was it was her parents. Her parents
had been been hoping that it would come to light.
So she just picked up the torch when her parents
were gone and kept going and she did a God
bless her.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, so the elders, the eldest will teach you. I
was looking for her name right where I can't find,
but she got y'all tell us, thank you guys for
doing us here. But this was the episode of laugh
and learning. Listen. Politics is a dirty daily game for
politics is also a game that affects each and every
one of us, So make sure you get out there
to vote. By the way, I will be sitting and

(47:59):
interviewing with RFK on Friday. Yeah, so we're gonna we're
gonna see how that goes. I won't look like this.
I'm gonna be cute and I would look cut for y'all.
If we can get at least six thousand downloads, we
will come here for y'all.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
So sweaty, I'll actually blow dry my hair. And the
grandmother of Juneteenth.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Is openly openly thank you, Thank you, Bobby. See Bobby Cliffin,
I told you all that, okay uh. And you can
follow me on Monroe Flame at Monroe Flame on Instagram,
TikTok Flame Monroe one two five, Facebook markets Flame Monroe
Parker and YouTube coffee Time every morning like share and
subscribe on Flame Monroe. But we give it to you

(48:37):
right or we don't give it to you at all.
We can follow you where Bobby Clifford.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Splifford Bobby on on Instagram, Bobby Clifford on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
That's it, and you and Bobby Clifford is the main
person you hit on land to learn podcast. So you
got questions, ideas, theories, whatever you have, hit Bobby up
with it. If you come in correct, she will check you.
I have trained her well. She does know how to
use our language very good. And she's Irish so she
ain't need that much training. Hey, thank you. Try to

(49:11):
produce Aaron Howe. We appreciate you. We will see you
guys next week. But we will happily watching to see
what if we may have We to do a special
laugh and learned as we probably right after the debate.
Right after that's gonna be the hottest ticket in town.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Yeah, oh no, for sure, for sure. And my in
what in what your your tag saying?

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Oh? Because here in laughing Alan, we are not trying
to change your mind. We are only trying to get
you to use your mind because of mind, because what
Bobby you could.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Have said it a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
That ain't my land to say that's your line. I
know too many people that's wasted their mind, so I
don't want to say it beause them personally. Listen, we
are here, we appreciate you, we thank you, and we
will see you on next week. Peace. Don't miss an
episode of Laugh and Learn. Listen and subscribe on the
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(50:08):
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