October 10, 2025 • 61 mins
Flame Monroe and co-host Bobbi Clifford discuss the political fallout surrounding Letitia James’ indictment, the ongoing government shutdown, and the impact of ICE policies on local communities. They also explore the controversial issue of conversion therapy and its devastating effects on LGBTQ youth, while celebrating progress in cultural representation—highlighting Bad Bunny’s historic upcoming Super Bowl performance. Flame and Bobbi urge listeners to stay informed, engage in meaningful political conversations, and exercise their right to vote.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
We're flame, we.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
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you know the name flame, my bro also known as
my Ro Flame. Come in with last and come in
with you love loundes. Baby, you better catch it when
you can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics, shouting
now comics, just paying homage.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
What's up tips?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You know she raised shot towns on speaking to the
grown a second, we're gonna lab and cut him and kicking,
and at the end we leave it with is a
lifted spirits. But you want to revisit so your first
second listen.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Young folks say it's lift. Old folks say we dig.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Hey, no, fish, do what you do? Hay no, this
do what you do? Hay No, kids do what I do?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
And nokis.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
He This is comedian flame Monro And I'm here with
my very mouthy and won't shut up partner, my co host,
who I adore and love is Bobby Clifford. Because when
the countdown is going, she's still retalking.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I have a lot of thoughts. I have I have
a lot of thoughts, and I have to be I
have to be heard. This is not working thing and
being with adults a day is kind of killing me.
I just have my family, and all they do is
bitch to me. I don't get a lot of words in.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
So you need somebody, You need somebody young to hang around.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
So I grab I get an adult, and I'm like
a hullbow on a hot dog. I'm in that conversation.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And when I tell you, she in it. She don't
stop being in Anita, she stays in it. But anyway,
welcome to this week's episode of Laugh Alone. How are
you doing to it?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I'm doing all right. It's cold here in Boston. We
went from last week it was eighty five up until yesterday,
and then all of a sudden it dropped like a
rock And it's in the thirties right now in Boston.
It's course, it's in the evening when we're taping us.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But abs, according to the credible news sources, because they're
not all credible anymore, according to the credible news sources,
you guys are about to get to know Easter on
the East Coast. Oh shes don't say ash so, y'all.
I don't want that.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, I don't want anything that's cold. Had we had
a ton of rain a couple of days ago, which
was great because we are drier than well. I was
going to say something really dirty, but than me, but yeah,
but that was It brought in a lot of raw
and then it kind of pushed out the warm and
now we've got the cold. I'm not ready for its flame.
I'm not ready for it. It happens every year like this.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You live in Boston, you knew what was coming. You
knew what was coming from October to April to May.
I don't know. I don't have those experiences. I live
in Long Beach, California. I went to this a little rain,
we might get fifty we might.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I'm giving her the finger, everybody, for everybody that's on
the East.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Coast rool gibye Old area, because everyone I tell you
that we pay for the weather here, trust when I
tell you we don't pay just for the rent. We
pay for the weather. But anyway, well, because this country
right now is paying for a whole lot of shit
that we didn't do. We're going to get to that.
The government shut downs everything. Anti who I want to
start off with saying, I am very balmmed to see
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that they have indicted Attorney General from New York with
Titia James, who was one of the biggest bulldogs going
after Trump for all of his bs. This lady stayed
with her foot on his neck. But now that he
got control of all the houses, the Supreme Court and everything,
they just indicted her. I have donated money to her campaign,
and I hope that anybody out there that supports that
(04:16):
lady supports her campaign too, because she was trying to
go after him, but now they'd indicted her for I
think it was.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
The same thing, same thing she got him for loans Okay,
information he put on the loans right, nobody got hurt
in his case. Nobody was complaining, but she went after
him because she was that that's what she campaigned on.
And then remember this is the revenge toward everybody he
got comby last week. Letitia James today and he got
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her on fraudulent loan information which she gave, which I
don't know how it's fraudulent when she said that it
wasn't her primary residence. But he got her for the
same type of thing where nobody was complaining and nobody
lost money.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I got hurt.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
So it it is a little ironic but he's on
the revenge tour. Everybody buckle up. And I don't think
he actually thinks he's going to get anywhere with these cases.
I think he knows they're all bs, but I think
he wants them, anybody that's done him wrong, to pay
the price and have huge legal bills. So his flame said,
if there's somewhere to donate, and that's what you want,
(05:20):
that's all he wants. He wants to bankrupt them and
make their lives miserable.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
That's it. Yes, he does. He wants to be in control,
which is what he is, is a control freak. You
know most of me who are control frees like that.
In my experience, my personal experience, loves to be dominated
and to be a room, love to be completely humiliated,
dominated pistone, amongst other things. I don't know about that,
but I do it in my experience, because you know,
(05:45):
I'm living. I've wore many hats in my life, and
I used to be that girl that met those men
that were powerful congressmen and not detectives are the chief
of police and everything. I use all that in my
youth and when I tell you they were meaner that
a Barrea rout of snakes, but in my beer room
they were soft as a baby.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Kit Well, I will say that Milania has a real
resting bitch face. She absolutely probably could be a dominat trixy.
So I can't say that that's not true. But all
I can say is buckle up to these because he
is going to He is trying to like bankrupt you.
So and the worst is they say that, you know,
(06:27):
he lost a lot of money. I don't know what
money he lost because people were raising money for all
of his legal kids.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
No, no, no, that's not even a killer, Bobby. Here's
the killer today. Doing the middle of a shutdown. We
in the middle of a government shut down. He decides
that he wants to sell five hundred dollars watches with
his name on them. Listen, the hustle is real. Oh young,
I'm telling me, let me tell you how I really feel.
I think I've said this only and learned. I know
I've said it on coffee time. They are playing to
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us all the things that he is saying about that's
transgender people, that we're mentally feel that we're unbalanced, that
we're all Watch when I tell you that is going
to be the tactic that they use to save him
from going to jail. They're going to say that he
is mentally unstable, so he cannot be charged with any
other crimes that he committed. But everybody also has their
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hand in the cookie jar will point the finger at
him because they know he can't get in any trouble.
I don't know if it's going to be true, but
I just want you guys to sit back and pay attention,
because you know, on an oracle, I see shit. I
ain't seen a lot of re numbers, but I see shit. Okay,
where we're going by the clifford, let's go where we're
going to take the lead.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I can't say you're wrong. I said this last week,
or actually it was in a personal conversation, so I'll
say it for the camera and for the recording. A
year ago, I would have told you you were overreacting
and blah blah blah blah blah. But what has happened
over the past ten months, the craziest places that the
country has been brought good or bad, and I will
actually discuss something for the good if it actually happens.
(07:57):
I would never have guessed, so I can't say I
don't think he'll get anywhere with that, but the fact
that he's putting out the hateful speech and he's got
people thinking negatively. Where As you say, there were strides
made for years and nobody even thought of trans really
not at least outpublican out loud, and you know, he's
got people talking about it again, which is disappointing. I
(08:20):
am very disappointed with where the country is right now.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, so am I let me start out bout giving
big kudos to Governor Printzer of Villain, Pritzker of Illinois,
the Mayor Brandon of Chicago, and my city of Chicago
for being tenacious and tough asses and standing up because
he deployed the National Guard to the city of Chicago,
and Chicago is not having it. They put out the
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South trucks, the black Ice. They also the city is
fighting back, their marching, they're protesting. They are running these
ice people up out of their neighborhoods and out of
their Listen to me, I told you, Bobby, when they
said that they're I said, Chicago ain't like that. I'm
from Chicago, Chicago. I like that. We're not gonna play
with you in Chicago. Chicago is a different elephant, and
(09:04):
I love it. I love the fact that because what
happened with Jimmy Kimmel and ABC and we protested so
hard and they put him back on TV, we really
do have the power if we stick together as one
to win for Chicago. Baby, Chicago gonna fight back. And
I'm saying that nicely, but Chicago gonna fight back. Thank you, Chicago.
That's why I'm built for tough, because I'm from the
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Windy City.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I didn't I think I had read something about a
judge that temporarily put a restraining order as far as
National Guard troops going out there, which is good because
they shouldn't. I do think there is an opportunity. You know,
he's just doing The administration is just doing crazy stuff.
They want to get us used to seeing the military
and neighborhoods in federal having more power. But I do
(09:51):
think there's an opportunity lost if the administration is calling
the governors first and seeing if they need help, that
the especially Prisker, because he's got to set on him,
could flip the script and say, yeah, we don't want
the National Guard, but we are crime is high. We'd
like to maybe see some dea people be sent in,
(10:13):
you know, some more undercovered people that we can go
in and let me use your people the way that
I need them, not what you're sending because nobody wants
the National Guarden there. But those conversations aren't happening.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I understand what you're saying, Bobby, and Chicago does have
a high crime rate. But here's the thing. It is
not what you do, is how you do it. That's
what I'm saying to louly correct. If he would have
picked up a phone administratively as opposed is trying to
bully every goddamn body and say, hey, let's have a meeting.
What do we need to do to help you to
get your city back in alignment with the rest of it.
(10:45):
But he did not. He just went public because he can.
Every damn day on the damn news, we got to
see him talking about absolutely nothing, babbling and rambling, and
he's going after everybody with these tactics of disrespect. Governor
Princeter didn't get in that office because he said the
application and got the job. He was voted into that position.
The mayor was voted into that position with no help
(11:07):
from Elon Musk catched everything, and people voted for them
because that's who they wanted to represent them. So you
go to the representative professionals as a statesman, speak like
you got some goddamn common sense and some democracy and
some care for your country. And that's that state that
you govern, because you governed the country, so you govern
that state. But that is not what he does. He
(11:28):
goes what I'm saying as rant goes crazy, pisses everybody off,
so combatively, No, said, you don't get to dictate to
me and tell me what I want in my city.
So then, and that's what he does not like. So
nobody likes that, so they pushed back on him. Mind you,
I'm with you, Bobby. It could have worked had he
went at it a different rate, but of course he won't.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
No, and I agree, that's what I'm saying. Had there
been a conversation, had it's an opportunity lost for both sides,
he could have come out like a hero. I actually
brought crime down because I lent these federlate whatever the
agency were that Prisker said he needed. And I'm sure
it would be different for each state because each state
has different We talked about Portland, Oregon, and how Oregon
(12:09):
I'm saying it wrong, and how they have you know,
a higher maybe drug issues, then it might be more
violent crime in Chicago. So it could have been packaged
up for each governor what they could offer or the governor.
Let the governor ask, I'm willing to give you some
federal resources, what do you need and let the conversation
go from there. So I think it was a real
opportunity lost for both sides and for the people. You know,
(12:32):
God forbid, you know that people who are hiring everybody,
everybody's getting a salary other than that, I think it's
five hundred and fifty government people in our military, our
tsa all that we look at the everybody who's not.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I'm gonna tell you somebody, when you just say something
that's sparked a brand I hate because I was looking
at the salaries of these ice people. They are getting
a fifty thousand dollars signing bonus, they're getting that paid
one hundred thousand dollars a year, and they're getting fifty
thousand dollars off their student loans. What's going to happen
is people gonna quit their government jobs and quit the
military and sign up for ICE. I believe if there wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
An age limit and a weight limit, I'd be in
for the student loans.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Or is it age? Is there an agent awaight limit
for ice?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I'm assuming. I mean, what were I gonna do? Belly
buck them into the next I'm.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Gonna say, I've seen some thick ice characters, some big
people that they covered up. You might not be able
to see they face, but you can damnage the CDAs
good God, they waddered the damn truck when they back up,
you know how the truck say, maybe there are quite
a few beats on those ice beat. But what I'm
saying is that that money is attractive. Fifty thousand dollars
signing bonus and one hundred thousand dollars salary. You not
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make people not making money like that.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, for middle for middle income, lower middle income people
especially you just said that the student loans. You could
have a lot of people that have want nothing to
do with that work, But that's attractive to them because
a you can get a job. I'm seven months now
unemployed interviewing, not a lot of bites, not a lot
of jobs. We have more people out looking for work
than we have jobs coming in so to to get
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those perks, and I'm sure they get great benefits. Yes,
the work's hard and people are spitting on you and
everything else, but it might make it attractive.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
So but yeah, I say it makes it attractive. But
then when history is written with side of history do
you want to be on you have? It's what you
have at yourself. Yeah, because history will be reatten and
I want to know what side of history am I
gonna be on. I'm gonna be on a good side
or I'm gonna be on the side of that hates people.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, well, yeah, we're going to see, because you know, Scotus,
everybody's looking at right now whether this is even legal
to send it out. These aren't insurrections. Insurrections are a
certain way. We saw what January looked like that year,
and they're saying that was just a riot. These are
peaceful demonstrations. You can't be saying people in for peaceful demonstrations.
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But anyway, as I started out, it's too bad because
there was a real opportunity lost here. This could have
been this could have been something for good. He could
have been the president who who was you know, tough
on crime instead of the way. It is the one
thing that I do want to give him. I can't
say credit because we don't know if it's going to
(15:22):
actually happen. Is it looks like I know that Israel
signed off on that twenty point deal that the Trump
administration was brokering between Gaza and Israel, and so they're
sort of taking a victory lap now. But until I
see the is it twenty eight people that are missing
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and we are the forty eight people, twenty alive, twenty
eight dead. Until I see the bodies, both alive and
dead coming over, I can't give. I can't give any credit.
But if he gets it done, God love him.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Bobby. You are so America. You are such an American.
Every week when I'm bashing Trump, you always find the
way to have something right on the borderline, almost nice
about him. She's so white. I love it.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's not that. But if he did get I mean,
we have to give. So we pick on him when
he's a boob, which is all the time, so we
have to you know, I listened to him this week
and I thought, why can't someone shut him up? He
was talking about the furloughed the furload the workers and
with the government shutdown, and that he's now which he
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doesn't have, so Congress is the is the purse. And
to declare war, he's trying to declare war like through
the insurrection, like he's trying to do it all himself
and give himself more power. But he's going to hold
their salaries. And he actually said, you know, we're going
to help some people. Some people don't deserve any help,
and they're beyond tout. And I'm like, what are you
talking about. You're the president for everybody, whether you like
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them or you don't like them, and you're sitting saying
that if you don't vote on his you're not getting help,
and you have no right not to give back back
pay to them. And I'm telling you, he makes my
eyeballs pulsate. But anyway, if if I'm miserable to him
that way, I have to say, if he gets something done,
if what he did actually brings these these people home
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to their family so they can bury them. And in
the Jewish faith, I think you have especially for my
Orthodox friends, they have like twenty four to forty hours
they have to do it, and this is two years.
They haven't been able to bury their people.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I can't. I cannot get involved in And as much
as I want to be, I was like, you know what,
will I'll already know that he had his hand in
a cookie job. So much for this to happen, because
during his campaign, he was the one who said that
he could stop the war on day one, he could
call make a phone call the very next day if
he's elected. He was elected, and he did not, and
he has not and he will later. Yeah, he has not,
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he did not, and he will not. That's the name
of the episode. He has not, he did not, and
he will not do anything unless it aligns his pockets personally.
That's how I feel period. Yeah, And Boby, you know
what blew me because everybody was like, oh, Kama's a
black woman. Oh she's a woman, She's going to be
too emotional. She was just speaking somewhere recently. It was
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all over social media, lady, and it was on the news,
and she said, because these motherfuckers are crazy. That is
the Kamala Harris we needed on the campaign trail. But
everybody wanted her to be presidential or to be state secked.
I've said this for two years. When you are playing
in their game, you have to play like they play.
We needed the Democrats needed to get in the dirt
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with them. That was the only way to beat them.
You had to get in the dirt with them. They
didn't want to do it. They tried to rise above
and put Michelle Obama. When they go low, we go
hide when they go low. We were supposed to win
to hell and drug them right up underhill, but we
didn't that.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I think the turning point for her to me, just
like the turning point for Joe was really the debate
right when you saw that he got so confused and
care It could have been ambient. It could have been
everything he's saying, but you realized, but he can't be
in charge for four years. In the evening if we
had some sort of catastrophic something, he comp bey on
an ambient and this is what this is what's happening
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to him. I think the point for her was the
view when they opened it up, when they when they
lobbed it at her for her to make a correction
so people were comfortable and said, what would you have
done differently? And she said, I can't think of a thing. Yes,
you can and you didn't have to throw Joe under
the bus. Joe really wanted to be bipodisan support on immigration.
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He wanted Congress to make the decision. I don't feel
that way. That's okay, you know, And I think that
that's kind of got people because he did make mistakes.
We all make mistakes. At the time, it seems like
something's good, and then as you get a little bit
of distance from it, you go, eah, I should have
would have could it right? But she didn't take that opportunity.
But I wish she was like what you just said there,
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maybe not as aggressive, but said, you know what, we
screwed up, and I'm part of it, and this is
where we made the errors, and this is how I'm
going to change it. I keep going back to that
with the Democrats. They have horrible messaging. Even today they
keep complaining I'm so sick of listening about how bad
Trump is. Everybody Helen Keller from the grave knows how
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bad Trump is. But how are you going to change it?
So he's bad? What are you going to do to
make my life easier? I don't care that he didn't
do everything he's supposed to. What are you going to
do for me.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
This is where I'm met with that the Democrats did
not support Kamla Harris, the people in charge did not
support Kamla Harris. And now we got to take what
we're getting. And if you can see, what we're getting
is not even aligning with a whole lot of his
own supporters. The fact that Madrie Taylor did Taylor Green,
who was the biggest Trump boot liquor.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Reason, When the hell did that messy head bitch become
the voice of reason?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
And to me, that is what that is. A that
is a tail tale sign of the rats. See the
ship is sinking and they're running the.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Way, or he's gone so far whatever up down left right.
I don't even know what the right that she's saying.
The facts that we have a government shutdown, which we'll
talk about as soon as we get back from commercial break,
but I just want to end on this thought that
we have a government shutdown when it's there's only one
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thing that the Democrats actually want is just to come
to the table and make a decision about the ACA subsidies,
which are helping the bulk of the Red states. That's
who's being helped by this.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
The problem with the people in the Red States that
actually need this help and don't understand how much they
need this help are so hell bent on Donald Trump
could take a squad on their mother so during the
middle of a Sunday dinner and they still they're going
to mostly that most of them will still rive with him.
I'm like, I don't know what it is, Bobby, but
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it's like he's a pied piper of his people and
damsel don't play no instruments, but they can't. They follow
that smell and that smell must be mesmerized, must be
enticing to them because and I heard that smell was
none nice or whatever that smell has, they keep following
it and they will not let it go. Whoa hold on?
I mean some lawyer follows like that.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah he does. He has absolutely with his maga, his magabase.
There is anything that you can do. And and God
bless him. I mean you have said, and it's true
if you go back prior to the presidential years, he's
super entertaining. He is the king of marketing. He could
sell snow don't Eskimo and have him thinking it was,
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you know, his idea to make the snow. You know
like that. He came up with that, that whole concept
and and people actually buy into that. Think of marketing period.
You got to have that special toy for your kid,
You've got to have whatever it is, those new sneakers
on your feet, marketing.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
All of that. But he can't market those Epstein foles
because y'all ain't release SOI files yet. People the only
reason that they are holding out is because they don't
want Mike Johnson to swear in this Democrat. Is it
from Arizona? Is she from Arizona?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
She's her dad's seat. I believe she's Arizona.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yes. And because once she gets in, she has publicly
said they want you to get in. She wants those
Epstein files released. They're doing everything they can have to
release those files. Between Pambindy and Crossid Crooked Ptail, cash Retail,
we in trouble. Speaking of Pam Bondy, is that Bobby
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you know when I watched her being on the hot
seat on the floor, The way they evade the questions
and are so disrespectful and will be answered question directly
then to say purely yes or no answer question, They
flip it, spin it, turn it around, running back getting attitude,
get hostile, anything to deflect and distractor. Answer a simple
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question that was asked us, did you say this or
do you have this? Will you release that? It is
so many lives, Bobby, it's so many last nobody knows
what the truth is that, nobody knows where the truth
Look what.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You just said? Who does that sound like? Where do
they take their page from? Any other oversight made meeting,
regardless of the president who is in. When you get called,
you go in. You're respectful, you defer to them. You yes, sir, no, sir?
You you might have to say, which would none of
us like I plead the fifth. But at no time
(24:33):
do you disrespect do you like almost spit out?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I am so disappointed. But Cash Fattell I thought was embarrassing.
She was downright humiliating and didn't answer a gd thing.
Now saying now you one of them, I'm like, what
is the point? And then I flip on the other side,
flame and I'm like, why the hell are we doing
oversight meetings when the government shut down? Figure this shit
out to get the government back. Well, you guys are
(25:01):
in there an oversight where nothing's going to get answered,
and they know it now, Why haven't It's a waste
of time. Yeah, very I'm not going to say her name, right,
Adelita Gravalla. She's from she's from Arizona, and I know
that she's going to vote on it. They still, I mean,
there's still another step that will happen, but she would,
she would get it, like to the next committee where
(25:22):
the Epstein files get released. That said, I'm so sick
of talking about him.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I mean, please, well you can't get it, you can't
get away from it. And my biggest fear now for
a lot of people that publicly goes against him or
publicly votes against him.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
You know, they just was it a judge whose house
was a set of blades last week? Was that as well?
They said, yes, again something else. But the retaliation of
his followers because you didn't bow down and kissed the
ring is even you know, it's like, oh my god.
So now according to so, according to the news media
(25:58):
out that this week, they supposedly hired maybe two thousand
people to go to scour social media to see who
says negative things about him because now they want to
go after him. When I tell you, he wants to
be Kim Jong yung or Vladimir Putin's so bad that
he's driving him more crazy than he already is allegedly.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And I see, I don't even think. I mean, so
we do this, and I don't put this on my
social media. I don't think social media is supposed to
be social. It's supposed to be light, airy shaped pictures
of you, what you're doing, you know, not bashing any president.
I can't stand this one personally, forget about his presidency.
But I don't put things on it. What you were
(26:41):
just talking about for anybody who who was unaware is
Circuit Court Judge Diane Goudstein. She had blocked South Carolina
from turning over voter records to the DOJ because they're
looking for it's like back on the ice stuff. They're
looking for any information who was in there? They live,
where do they work? And she said no, and her
(27:04):
house went up in flames. Her husband was inside. And
I'm imagining this woman's middle aged, so he had to
be middle aged. It happened so fast, the fire, they said,
the poor soul. It was on a like a stilted house.
He had to jump out the window and almost didn't
make it with no shoes, nothing like jump out the window.
(27:24):
Nobody got hurt. But they're saying there's no evidence to
indicate that it was it was set intentionally. Yeah, you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I live in a house right on the first floor.
If I jump my big guess out the window and
the wind was right next to my beat, if I
jump my big guess out the one my knees gonna say, bitch,
didn't I tell you to stop playing with me? Jesus,
I am glad that nobody was hurting them.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
There'd be an eight foot divot where I landed. Horses
could drive down.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Now. I used to free up off the stage in
my heels and land on my feet. No, but I
couldn't even jump out this wondering in my flat feet
because it's something about the shock of a barefoot that
HER's even worse than having something sold on your foot.
So I know that was very painful for him.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Oh my god, did you see the new This is
totally off topic, but it just came into my head,
and I don't have a lot of information everybody, but
everybody can go on. It was CNN that was reporting it.
RFK Junior is now saying hold on to your hold
on to your panties. That autism. Early circumcisions now play
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a part in autism.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
When are you supposed to have it on your deathbed?
You do it when the baby's like brand new. So
it doesn't feel me well.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Now, but now let me say this. It's because I
didn't get circumcised until I was like eight. But here, yeah,
here's the thing. My mother regretted it. Afterwards a doctor
suggested it to her. And I had a very young mother.
My mother was seventeen when she had very young mother
who was very influenced by because their area, just like
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our era.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
You were told to respect the white coach, you were
told to respect the black robe. You were supposed to
told to respect the badge. So they told her that
that needed told be done. It was done. Now when
she researched that she got older.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I as a parent myself who has a son, I
think it's better not for men to be circumstanced. I
think that the I listened to me, and people have
their own, you know, they have their own from the
girl's side. Ew, well, if you teach your kids how
to claim themselves and you know, take properly take care
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of that.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
A lot of people don't.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
There's something about the pleasure of having an orgasm when
you still have the foreskin for the male that is
even ten times greater they say, or like fifty times
greater than it is without the circumcision, like a woman
would have quit. You know, you them thousand nerves. So
it was the maazing. But well, once I was grown
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and I had a kid, I made the very conscious
decision not to have my son's circle.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Side I had mine. It was one hundred and fifty
dollars out of pocket, but it was the best one
hundred and fifty I thought. I spent nice and clean.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, well, you know the need and so it needed
to be a man around. Yeah. Yes, and it is
a personal choice. But let's get back on topic. Let's
go back.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Let's get back to the big you think that's called
that's causing autism.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Though, I think that we have to look at the
well wait a minute, I think we have to look
at the source of who is coming from. Again, I
always say, look at the Thank you, Bobby, you eat
raw food off India. India is a beautiful country. But
if you banish food off the market in India. You
ain't no telling what you eat. It could be cowshit,
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you wouldn't know. They know how to dress up and
make it smell good. M Pam Bondy Pamby is a
walking example of I'm lost in the sauce when I
tell you there's some clouds in the coffee. And I
don't think that she's slow. I think that she I
think she's smart. The power appeal of saying that I
(31:15):
am in the Trump's pocket and he listens to me,
and I have the President's here until I make him angry,
and then he's going to show her just how he
feels about her. And her day is coming. The wrecking
ball is coming for all of them, because all you
have to do one time is look the wrong way.
You ain't even got to say that you got to
make the wrong face. And somebody says, did you see
(31:35):
their face on camera? When you see the wrong thing,
they're going to be it's going to be like watching
The Apprentice all over again. You're fired.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, No, I'm with you. I actually think she's a
very bright woman. I think she could do this job
and do it well if she wanted to. But she
she absolutely he gets this wonderful like he's following, whether
it's the people that vote for him or the people
that work for him. Initially, not once say that when
(32:06):
she gets screwed by him. You know, everybody kind of tall.
It tells tall tales not tall, aren't tall. Their their experience,
and they're not very positive. That said, I was disappointed
by your behavior because she knows better, she knows what
it's supposed to look like. She could have just said no,
plead the fifth whatever. That was awful. It was awful.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well, it's my biggest issue with paying bond is that
you allowed to get the au lad to us on
camera to get the job, because you said you had
the files on your desk. That's what you were going
to release the files. But you did everything you could
to say nothing about those files, even when they showed
her Apparently they show her pictures of half naked women
and girls with Donald Trump under age, and she called
(32:51):
those pictures salacious. Let us see, let the country, let
the American people, especially the seventy seven eighty people that
voted for him, let them see the pictures. Don't show
it to the ones that didn't vote all in short,
to the ones that voted for him, and see if
that persuades them. Man, if they have daughters and children
and sisters, that's that age imagining being touched or maliciously
(33:13):
put on Epstein out and to have horrible things done
to them, them being ran through your daughters. And I
bet you they changed their man if they could see
their visual because the visual changes, and more so than hearsay.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah it's she shouldn't I go back to I mean,
he was a little quiet on the Epstein always he
said he was going to release she he the people
he surrounded himself with that they picked, including Pimbandi being one.
They all over promised. You know, she said they were
on it was on her desk and she had to
review them. And but now you're saying it wasn't on
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your desk, So what was on your desk? It was
that on your desk because you said the files on
my dead what was in it?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Show? Was they said whatever they the American people needed
to hear that date that they were going to get
those positions.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
So I don't think it ever resisted even then.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Going after James called me, I have no I have
no I don't feel no sense.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Well, that's a difference. Yeah, because he puts his nose.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I have no sympathy for him. Because he released them
files on Hillary cuinch in ten days before the election,
and then it damn show looked like she was slated
to win. But it turned people's minds they needed. He
planted such a seed of doubt and in the election
for her that it ruined the election for all of us,
because I think had he not won the first time,
(34:33):
he would not be the president at this time. I
think had he lost the first time, he'd went on
to set his ass down somewhere. When did he?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
That would have been it? Well, it's no, There wouldn't
have been enough return on investment. And I don't mean
that fresh he was in the seventies. It wouldn't have
been worth it. I am sure he would have looked
and said, yeah, is it worth it? Is it? And
Joe might ever got in. Joe might have never felt
the need to run himself, so he wouldn't have to
compete against him, Like I could be older, I could be.
(35:00):
It might have been old. She could have had two
terms and that been the end of it, I know.
And now the Supreme Court rejected an appeal for Gallainne Maxwell.
So I mean, I kind of like that. But now
they're talking about or he's talking. He was asked point
blank would he would he partner and he said, well,
a lot of people are looking for partners for me,
but I have to review the review her file and
(35:24):
that Caitlyn is a Kaitlyn Conlin Caitlyn Collins on CNN
and said yeah, but you know she's for trafficking young
woman like she was trying to like lob it to him.
So he'd say absolutely not, and he didn't. He kept saying, well,
I'll have to review it. That should be an absolutely
not if he was a smart man. No, I'm not
for a sex trafficker where there's too much evidence against it. No,
(35:47):
not in that particular.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I'm going to say this publicly on this platform, and
this is only my opinion. I've said this before though publicly.
I do not believe that Jeffrey Fstein is deceased. That's
a I do believe that he is somewhere safe and kept,
and I believe that he has put out the demand
that Galay Maxwell needs to be released because somebody else
(36:09):
besides delay Maxwell has the Epstein file somebody besides her,
because she's incarcerated, and if anything happens to her or
to him, those paperwork, the paperwork is going to come
from somewhere else. He's going to release it to the meeting,
somebody's going to release it to the media. I believe
that he is going to pardon her and she's going
to disappear, and wherever wherever Epstein is allegedly, I believe
(36:32):
she's gonna be right there with him because the only
person knows it's hurt probably on other people that that,
but that does not laughing learned or black effect or
iHeart that is Flamembro's opinion.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, I'm not a conspiracy person, but as I said
to you, after these last ten months, I believe I'd
absolutely believe anything. You know, see your members reporting that
the poor military with the with the shutdown are actually
having to take loans out to keep themselves afloat because
the military food pantries empty. There are growing lines at them,
(37:03):
you know, and then they're empty when they get there.
They have canceled school events because they kind of afford
to put them on. And I would never think that
you would see that in the United States. So I
believe anything.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Listen, do you know how disparaging it is? I was
watching David b Or who you know, I absolutely love
me some David Bill News tonight and Mike Johnson got
a phone. He was doing a live taping with someone.
He got a live phone call from an army's wife
who has children, and she was, listen, you guys need
to go back in. I can't feed my children. They
(37:33):
say they're not getting paid. It was so he away.
It's the Democrats fault, the Democrats, the Democrats. It's not
the Democrats fault. It is the Republican's fault that we
are in this damn government shut down because they won't
get I believe on his lead. All Mike Johnson has
to do is call the Congress backing and swear this
woman in, which he will not do because they don't
want to release the FSTINC file. They're so busy running
(37:55):
away from this truth that they're going to destroy the
American people, even in the military. How disparaging is that
for if we do go into a war, that people
are not going to want to sign up to fight
for our country, younger men and young women, because the
military is not defending them, they're not paying them. They
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want to go into a hissy fit trying to hide
this bullshit as files. Meanwhile, my family is at home.
I'm eight thousand miles away in another country fighting somebody
who I don't know why I'm fighting them. They ain't
need nothing to me personally, but my government is not
paying me. So my family is starving or living with
someone else, or have to do what they have to do. Bobby,
that's fucked up.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I agree. And the thought of again military moms having
to go to food pantries to be able to feed
their children.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Do you hear me? Do you hear me? Bullshit? Bobby? Yeah,
I'm my husband or my wife. My spouse is in
combat fighting for their lives, could killed at any time,
and I'm over here suffer. So I'm worried about that,
and then I'm worried about having to take care about family.
I have to pay the bill, Barbi, that is so
(39:04):
much weight on America, and the Republicans are not thinking
about that at all. They are just doing as they
are told because they are too afraid that because they're
going to lose their situation. So we're back. Let me
tell you what what holds a lot of weight to
me right now. This week with this whole conversion therapy
(39:26):
thing that they're talking about doing, no, and I don't
want to know. And I seen that there was one
week that was supposed to be closing alligated Alcatraz. Now
I've seen where they bringing incinerators supposedly to alligated Alcatraz.
And it is barbaric that they're talking about the things
that they're talking about doing to transgend the people that
(39:48):
they have deemed mentally ill. Meanwhile, we have a state
senator that's a transgender person. Is Sarah mac bradmantal you
she this woman? I'm sorry, She's like.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, Colorado conversion therapy in Colorado, and.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
This is what want to do it. They want to
do it everywhere. We have a we had a general
that was transgender, a whole general in the military. She
didn't make it up the ranks because she was mentally ill.
She made them the ranks because she was skilled and
she did her job. Yes, And that is what I'm saying.
Don't look at you like, because we do got some
(40:27):
crazies on the internet that Lily Tino and a few
other ones that do barbaric shit, especially towards women and children.
So those are understand you're not gonna let two or
three apples foroil the whole bunch because it doesn't work
that way. But that is how they're trying to line
it up. Bobby, and the country wants to say, we
lost this election because of the economy, the price of age,
(40:48):
the price of gas. We lost this election. My words,
my experience to me because so many people jumped on
the bay them and the LGB a lot of the LGBT,
and not only that, that was just such a large
component that they put in that they used, the Republicans
used to weaponize to scare people. It was a fear
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taxic that worked for their base.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
No, absolutely, and racism and it was a racism yeah,
when I was the world.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Let me tell you what Donald Trump did, because everybody's
like he created racism. Lies. I'm going to defend him
on that one. He didn't create racism. What he did though,
was took the doll colors off, He took the muscles off.
He relieved Okay, yeah, he released the pound baby. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
He I mean, I think of him. I go back
to his first term when he was picking on that.
I think he had cerebral policy, that reporter that had
cerebral policy, and I mean right blatantly. Well, he was
speaking with people, not something that he got hot, caught
on a hot mic or something. And when he did that,
all all any type of prejudice people had towards anybody,
(42:05):
whether it was sex, whether it was color, whether it
was the handicapped, whether it was the elderly, it was
it was okay to share those thoughts. They people laughed
and thought it was funny. Not at the time in
there they were horrified.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
But oh, Bobby, I thought that was disrespect. I thought
the way he threw the paper towels at Puerto Rico,
which is our country, were going talk about that in
a minute. Yeah, I thought that was way more disrees.
They don't throw shit at me. I'm not a fucking animal.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
He doesn't even he doesn't even know. I mean Scotus
is now they have a bunch of cases, because that's
what he does. He throws everything to the cases. He
knows that the half of the stuff that he's doing
is is you know, he's not going to get away
with it, but he'll just tie it up in court.
I kept those biscuits. We could get those biscuits paid
for if a month he took.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Bobby uh uh uh shit with them damn biscuits, Bobby, Yeah,
what is her obsession with these biscuits? Job?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
If we joke, if we just took three of the cases,
what the legal fees would have been, we would have
had the million and a half to get to get
that all distributed. It just makes no sense to me.
But he'll bankrupt the country over all of these bullshit
legal cases. And Scotus is trying to see what his scope,
what the presidential scope is, And you know what else
I want them to look at. This is Bobby Clifford
(43:16):
saying this guy. So, Scotus, if you're listening, I want
to know who keeps the president in check. So I'm
going to go back to the guy that was sent
to El Salvador when Scotus said get him back, facilitate
the return, and nobody did for four to six weeks.
Who was supposed to follow him up? So if you
say you don't have this power, sir, all right, So
(43:36):
who's checking them? Is that all the house in the Senate,
Well then they better get on it. But I'm going
to be very interested to see how a lot of
these cases because they should be reading the Constitution, which
is very clear about the separate and unique powers and
equal powers everybody. I'm going to be very interested to
see what these constitutional scholars kind of come back with.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
So here's my here's the thing, Barby Clifford. Because we
got off this subject so quickly with the conversion, with
the conversion therapy, let me tell you why that is
scary to me, why that is so scary to me.
Because they're going after the youth of lgbt Q, they're
going after the t they're going after the most impressionable minds.
(44:20):
And from what I hear, I've never experienced a conversion place,
but from what I've heard from the horror stories of
people who have, it is almost barbaria. It's almost like
an exorcism. If you ever watch The Exorcist with laved
the Blair, that they do all kinds of things to
you to try to chase the gay out of youth.
Let me tell you something about being gay, queer, transgender
with it. If you are, if that is truly who
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you are in your it's in your DNA, it's in
your spirit, nobody can chase that out. That is not
something that I put on like a T shirt or
like a pair of joga pants. That is something that
is internal. And I don't think that they're understanding that.
And the reason why, and I'm going to say this publicly,
I think the reason why it's because what they were
saying on the internet in the schools. I don't disagree
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that children need to learn a lot about life, but
I do disagree on when they need to learn it.
Why do I need to understand that this is that
at five and six years old? How about I can
just play with my blocks and understand that I'm going
to the bathroom on my own. Yeah, you know, put
your choys. So that's what you should be teaching children
at that age. I don't disagree that you know that
(45:27):
some families have LGBT in them, And I just think
that there's a proper time, there's a place, there is
a sit down, there is an understanding. And I think
that we would have been oversaturated with with and maybe
too fast. Let me say, and I'm part of the community,
but I think that we oversaturated and we've bombarded and
(45:48):
we just pushed and force and I think that that
calls it unbalanced in America. I think that they were.
It made people afraid that you're going to make my
children this way because you you will see so many commercials.
And here's the thing, we were transparent. We were pretty
much everywhere TV, commercials, the Congress, you know, the military,
(46:10):
We're everywhere. But I don't know if this younger generation
knew what it took for us to get there, because
it was just handed to them on a silver platter.
So they didn't know the struggle that it took us
to get to this plateau. And maybe me the way
they did I speak it, I didn't express it that
way that it has been a struggle for you guys
to get to this. They never heard me. But there
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was a warning before this instruction, and I'm telling you, Bobby,
it scared the shit out of people. It scared the
daylights out of people, and they ran towards what didn't
scare them, even though what didn't scare them was evenerio
then having the gay kidd.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
I agree with that. I don't think. I think prior
to there's a few people that I have seen and
you know who they are. They and they were rightfully
so they wanted it all. They wanted complete equality right now,
and I agree that they should have been allowed it,
but some people weren't ready for it yet. So the
(47:06):
more we had things like RuPaul drag Race, I'm going
to use it as a possible a positive light where
they kind of brought out some people in the community
and they made it positive. They made it easy. I
always say about you, You've always You've always made me
I don't ever think about trans or sexuality or anything
with you, because you just make it about being flame.
(47:27):
The more people I would be that was I was
exposed that would be like that, the more comfortable I became.
But when you got people that were demanding and I
want and they were angry, you got a very especially
if you had no exposure to people that were trans.
I agree with you. I think it made people really,
really nervous, and I think those ads I agree with
(47:48):
you during the football games. I think that kind of
sealed the deal because it brought the whole subject back
up that nobody was thinking about, and they took their
own insecurities and they went ooh, you know, I don't know,
And so I agree it didn't cause the fight with
everything but it certainly did. It was one more thing
that got added to the pile.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
And fear and ignorance go hand in hand. That's right,
ignorance go hand in hand. And he prides hisself on
and on a base that are afraid of him a
and that's too dumb to take the tangent research or
find out for themselves. They only go what he on.
What he says. It's today, Wednesday or Thursday.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Today is Thursday all day, absolutely all day.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
I'm sorry, I had a Trump moment. Y'all know what
day of the weekend was that was?
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Did you see? I think this is terrific. Tb asked,
because you know that this administration is defunding our our
PBS channels. You know where we used to watch, at
least when Flame and I were young, used to watch
Sesame Street and Zoom and the Electric Company and all
those podcasts self Old Lady there in order to raise money.
(49:03):
And I thought this was absolutely terrific. They're selling some
Bob Ross's pictures and he started on PBS. He was
somebody that was a painter, and he was very calm
and he kind of tried to teach people to paint
and they're hoping to raise one point four million, and
I think that's a terrific way to try to meet
that shortfall. You know, we don't need your money. Well,
(49:25):
we'll raise money on our own with one of our own.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Let me let me say this about the public PBS
channels and the Schoolhouse Rocks and all that. Those commercials,
those little shows helped me with my education. Like you
wouldn't believe, Bobby Yeah, to be able to sing the
preamble we the people in order to serve a more
(49:48):
perfect union. Yep. I would have never remembered that when
I having that little catchy tune in my head as
we were doing that test in the eighth grade. I
would have never known about so many different bills unless
they had that commercial and they're helping me camp. Those
things were so healthy to children. That is what they
need to bring back in these for these preschoolers up
(50:11):
to maybe seven and eight nine years old, because it
was educational, It was so entertaining, It was so easy
to comprehend when you've seen a little kid in a
cartoon form that oh, I can relate to this kid.
And they say it helped because these kids everything is
animated and AI will just remove all of that. I
think that's doing a great disservice to the world, to
(50:32):
get rid of the PBS, to get rid of the
schoolhouse rock, to get rid of all of those things,
because those things as children our era. I'm talking about sheep,
but I mean about the same age. Damn there why
we got a birthday next week.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
But we're.
Speaker 6 (50:46):
Really really, really really helped us to understand the ways
of life actually and to learn it because the teacher's
not teaching at school, and at that time, we may
have had seventeen eighteen in a class as opposed to now,
for we had forty.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, no, no, I had twenty six kids in my class.
But I'm going to add another layer to that. I
have ADHD and I didn't when I was young, I didn't.
They would say I was a day dreamer and I
would look out. So I'm going to add on. As
far as learning, it taught kids that might have had
some type of learning disability, mild, whatever, a different way
(51:25):
to learn. So, you know, like I learned about all
of my grammar stuff conjunction junction, what's your function? And
then they would tell you what things to do, what
the function was and I remember it because I did
it through I'm an auditory learner versus a written learner.
When it was on the board, I couldn't concentrate on that.
(51:46):
So it was it really reached a lot of kids
in a lot of different ways, and it was it
was really fun. What I like is that there is
sticking the thumb in the eye of the administration saying,
all right, you're cutting off our money. We're gonna again
try to generate our own with one of our own
somebody that helped us start it and make it and
make it popular. I wish I had money, I'd buy
(52:06):
one of his ugly ass paintings he painted in a
half hour, remember, and he'd have you painting it too.
He was sort of like, what is that that sip
and paint? He was like, the original will you go
in an hour?
Speaker 3 (52:17):
You know?
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Now we go to a restaurant that's probably like ten
years ago and you paint with your girlfriends or whatever,
and they put a picture up and they tell you
how to make the strokes and everything. That that's what
he would do. He was ahead of his time. So
I hope I hope they rose. They raised what point for.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Those challenge to me, they should bring that back since
they want to go this whole Christian and they wanted
to me, they should bring all of that back because
they were really helping you. And they need to bring
back mister Rodgers neighborhood, even though he has passed on right,
I thought mister Rogers was just the neighbor I wanted.
I lived in all in the projects, in all black neighborhood.
I didn't give a fuck. I wanted mister Rogers to
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be my neighbor. He was the nicest white man ever
and I loved his sweaters. But but Bobby, I think
what they're really trying to do is erase our history,
and not just black folks, because we're not baby boomers.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
What are we? We're gen Z no gen X, excuse me,
gen x.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
X from gen X to gen Z. They want to
erase that and restart. They want to restart, And yeah, well,
I said restart to me because what he is, what
he's doing, is he wants to restart what he watched
somebody else dow in another country. No names need to
be mentioned, but the first name again with the last
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name begin with the H. It is with an R
you do the math in the mid and it don't.
It remains with Middler. Uh huh, No, they do.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
And it's learning from our mistakes. So we just talked
about Kamala Harris right on the view. Had she said
owned what she did wrong and showed how she was
going to change it, we would have a different opinion.
The same goes for history. We have to own our
warts and all in the horrible things that we've done
and so that we don't repeat it and we don't
do it over again. And if we wipe that out
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and the kids don't get exposure to that, not going
to learn. We're only just over the past ten years
learning black history, the intricate blast black history, not the
overall arching five people that we that we sort of
learned about. So to now take that back, you know, it's,
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as I say, I keep biding my time. We have
a little over three years and then everybody, we only
have a year until we only have a year till midterms.
We've got to get out there for the midterms. Well,
at this point we have fan the flame. And what
I noticed this week was, I don't know, if you
watch Bad Bunny on Saturday Night Live, I just thought
(54:53):
it was a little interesting, but he did half in
English and then he did a whole bunch in Spanish,
and I got to say, God to see beautiful. He
is a He is a pretty pretty Puerto Rican Man American, Like,
let's let's let's add that in because people keep forgetting
that Puerto Rico is part of America. It's not a state,
but it's one of our territories. And he said, if
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you can't understand what I'm saying, you better get used
to it. You got four months because he is now
going to be the halftime show and everybody's in a
big hubbub. They should have an American do it. That's
why I threw in that he's an American and people
are all up in arms, and what.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
Do you think? And he's going to do half of
it here. He said he would do half of it
in Spanish. And here's the thing. America is a melting pot.
We have so many different bilingual people here, different or
not more than bilingual people still speak their own language
from wherever they're from, as well as speaking English. I
think it's respectful to his culture. I think it's respectful
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to his people, to his to his fans. And I
think it's respectful to America because she said, boy, he's
an American citizen. He is an American citizen. Okay, he's
from Puerto Rico, He's still an American citizen. And they
want to show their pride and their heritage. And I
think that because we will allow. And I was down
with because Kendrick Lamar, I'm a fan, but Ken Dick
(56:16):
Lamar showed his black culture last year and people were
up in arms. I think it will be only right
that bad Money can show his Puerto Rican heritage, you know,
doing the supertanent have all the time show when they
hire somebody else that's another nationality, I think they should
be afforded the same luxury. Because I'm an American. I'm
not going to forget my roots of where I came from.
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And all of this hoopla, how they doing back and forth, Bobby,
I'll be shocked, but he really does get to host
it because from what everybody's showing, the way Trump has
so much power, I believe that he might be replaced.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
Well see, I mean he's definitely summing as his nose
and I love it because of all of the immigration
stuff that's going On is certainly you know, kind of
stick in his eye in that he's going to do
it in Spanish. He is like that, the hottest number
one streamer all over the world. They'll get more views.
(57:11):
And that's why I think he will be the one
that will do it. And I know where you're coming from,
but because it's always all about money. Look at Kimmel
was on. How quickly they replaced Kimmel right because everybody
stood and they boycotted, and they're not going to want
to irritate people if he's the hottest streamer right now
in the world, and I think he is the right.
I mean again, we have a Spanish speaking territory. He
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has every right to speak speak the language of it.
He speaks two. I really even speak one.
Speaker 3 (57:39):
And there's so many people here in America that does
speak English. It is so many people that speaks English.
I mean Spanish is taught in Spanish is taught in school.
So they just in a hoop the hobby because he
is who he is. It's just a mess, but it's
going to be interesting to see. I personally think if
he does get to do the job, if the follow
through goes over, he's going to be quite entertaining. Oh,
(57:59):
I think, and I'm with you, Bobby, he's pretty to
look at. Oh my god, he's pretty to look at.
And he is.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
He's pretty and he is a pretty pretty man.
Speaker 3 (58:08):
So I say so, and I hope he comes out,
and I hope he comes out in his Kelvin Klein underwear.
Ed you ain't sending minutes underwear? He might not. I
don't know if you're a bad bunny. But it was something,
it was something funny up in those draws.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
It was a rabbit.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
That was one rabbits, that was a that was a
wielder beast. So but like ladies and gentlemen, thank you
guys for doing it. It's gonna be interesting to see
what happens at the super Bowl and I will be watching.
So thank you guys for joining us here laught alone,
here laft alone. We appreciate you, guys. We could not
have this show without you. We hope and pray that
you tell your friend's family whomever to listen in, tune in,
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come travel with us, idea, send in questions in sending
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before I go out over all that, let me just
say this here are laugh alarn in five years. The
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model has not changed and will not change. We are
not trying to get you to change your mind. We
are only trying to get you to use your mind.
Because of why, Bobby, Because.
Speaker 1 (59:20):
Your mind and more importantly, your vote, and we're voting
in it. We're voting in one year is a terrible
thing to waste.
Speaker 3 (59:29):
If we keep going at the rate we're going, we
might not even have a country in one year. But yes,
Bobby is very right. Our vote is the terrible thing
in the waste, and midterms is in one year. Y'all
better get together. They sending it up for us not
to be able to win. Any who. You can follow
me on all social media platforms at Monroe Flame on Instagram,
Flame Monroe everywhere else. I'm still currently on tour with
Tiffany Hattis. Monday November third, I would be at least
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in Atlanta for my Green Party, and November seventh and eighth,
I'll be in Mississippi, and Alabama. I'm also about to
get some new dates for the Funny Bones. Y'll hold
on and wait. I also think I'm going on tour
with somebody. I'm just waiting on a phone call. And
where can we follow you at? Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
You can follow me at Clifford Bobby on Instagram, Bobby
Clifford on TikTok and Facebook. And my fat Irish ass
is right here in Boston. I'm not going anywhere unless
Flame goes on tour with somebody, and maybe I will
meet her.
Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
But if you're a good looking man, maybe fifty to
fifty two follow Bobby because she needs to be followed.
I'm just saying, oh, thank you. We'll see you guys
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Say she if you watch your coffee time the baby
you know the name flame, my bro also known as
my Ro Flame. Come in with last and come in
with you love loundes. Baby, you better catch it when
you can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics, shouting
now comics, just paying homage.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
What's up tips?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You know she raised shot towns on speaking to the
grown a second, we're gonna lab and cut him and kicking,
and at the end we leave it with is a
lifted spirits. But you want to revisit so your first
second listen.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Young folks say it's lift. Old folks say we dig.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Hey, no, fish, do what you do? Hay no, this
do what you do? Hay No, kids do what I do?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
And nokis.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
He This is comedian flame Monro And I'm here with
my very mouthy and won't shut up partner, my co host,
who I adore and love is Bobby Clifford. Because when
the countdown is going, she's still retalking.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I have a lot of thoughts. I have I have
a lot of thoughts, and I have to be I
have to be heard. This is not working thing and
being with adults a day is kind of killing me.
I just have my family, and all they do is
bitch to me. I don't get a lot of words in.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
So you need somebody, You need somebody young to hang around.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
So I grab I get an adult, and I'm like
a hullbow on a hot dog. I'm in that conversation.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And when I tell you, she in it. She don't
stop being in Anita, she stays in it. But anyway,
welcome to this week's episode of Laugh Alone. How are
you doing to it?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I'm doing all right. It's cold here in Boston. We
went from last week it was eighty five up until yesterday,
and then all of a sudden it dropped like a
rock And it's in the thirties right now in Boston.
It's course, it's in the evening when we're taping us.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But abs, according to the credible news sources, because they're
not all credible anymore, according to the credible news sources,
you guys are about to get to know Easter on
the East Coast. Oh shes don't say ash so, y'all.
I don't want that.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, I don't want anything that's cold. Had we had
a ton of rain a couple of days ago, which
was great because we are drier than well. I was
going to say something really dirty, but than me, but yeah,
but that was It brought in a lot of raw
and then it kind of pushed out the warm and
now we've got the cold. I'm not ready for its flame.
I'm not ready for it. It happens every year like this.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You live in Boston, you knew what was coming. You
knew what was coming from October to April to May.
I don't know. I don't have those experiences. I live
in Long Beach, California. I went to this a little rain,
we might get fifty we might.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I'm giving her the finger, everybody, for everybody that's on
the East.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Coast rool gibye Old area, because everyone I tell you
that we pay for the weather here, trust when I
tell you we don't pay just for the rent. We
pay for the weather. But anyway, well, because this country
right now is paying for a whole lot of shit
that we didn't do. We're going to get to that.
The government shut downs everything. Anti who I want to
start off with saying, I am very balmmed to see
(03:56):
that they have indicted Attorney General from New York with
Titia James, who was one of the biggest bulldogs going
after Trump for all of his bs. This lady stayed
with her foot on his neck. But now that he
got control of all the houses, the Supreme Court and everything,
they just indicted her. I have donated money to her campaign,
and I hope that anybody out there that supports that
(04:16):
lady supports her campaign too, because she was trying to
go after him, but now they'd indicted her for I
think it was.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
The same thing, same thing she got him for loans Okay,
information he put on the loans right, nobody got hurt
in his case. Nobody was complaining, but she went after
him because she was that that's what she campaigned on.
And then remember this is the revenge toward everybody he
got comby last week. Letitia James today and he got
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her on fraudulent loan information which she gave, which I
don't know how it's fraudulent when she said that it
wasn't her primary residence. But he got her for the
same type of thing where nobody was complaining and nobody
lost money.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I got hurt.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
So it it is a little ironic but he's on
the revenge tour. Everybody buckle up. And I don't think
he actually thinks he's going to get anywhere with these cases.
I think he knows they're all bs, but I think
he wants them, anybody that's done him wrong, to pay
the price and have huge legal bills. So his flame said,
if there's somewhere to donate, and that's what you want,
(05:20):
that's all he wants. He wants to bankrupt them and
make their lives miserable.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
That's it. Yes, he does. He wants to be in control,
which is what he is, is a control freak. You
know most of me who are control frees like that.
In my experience, my personal experience, loves to be dominated
and to be a room, love to be completely humiliated,
dominated pistone, amongst other things. I don't know about that,
but I do it in my experience, because you know,
(05:45):
I'm living. I've wore many hats in my life, and
I used to be that girl that met those men
that were powerful congressmen and not detectives are the chief
of police and everything. I use all that in my
youth and when I tell you they were meaner that
a Barrea rout of snakes, but in my beer room
they were soft as a baby.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Kit Well, I will say that Milania has a real
resting bitch face. She absolutely probably could be a dominat trixy.
So I can't say that that's not true. But all
I can say is buckle up to these because he
is going to He is trying to like bankrupt you.
So and the worst is they say that, you know,
(06:27):
he lost a lot of money. I don't know what
money he lost because people were raising money for all
of his legal kids.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
No, no, no, that's not even a killer, Bobby. Here's
the killer today. Doing the middle of a shutdown. We
in the middle of a government shut down. He decides
that he wants to sell five hundred dollars watches with
his name on them. Listen, the hustle is real. Oh young,
I'm telling me, let me tell you how I really feel.
I think I've said this only and learned. I know
I've said it on coffee time. They are playing to
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us all the things that he is saying about that's
transgender people, that we're mentally feel that we're unbalanced, that
we're all Watch when I tell you that is going
to be the tactic that they use to save him
from going to jail. They're going to say that he
is mentally unstable, so he cannot be charged with any
other crimes that he committed. But everybody also has their
(07:17):
hand in the cookie jar will point the finger at
him because they know he can't get in any trouble.
I don't know if it's going to be true, but
I just want you guys to sit back and pay attention,
because you know, on an oracle, I see shit. I
ain't seen a lot of re numbers, but I see shit. Okay,
where we're going by the clifford, let's go where we're
going to take the lead.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I can't say you're wrong. I said this last week,
or actually it was in a personal conversation, so I'll
say it for the camera and for the recording. A
year ago, I would have told you you were overreacting
and blah blah blah blah blah. But what has happened
over the past ten months, the craziest places that the
country has been brought good or bad, and I will
actually discuss something for the good if it actually happens.
(07:57):
I would never have guessed, so I can't say I
don't think he'll get anywhere with that, but the fact
that he's putting out the hateful speech and he's got
people thinking negatively. Where As you say, there were strides
made for years and nobody even thought of trans really
not at least outpublican out loud, and you know, he's
got people talking about it again, which is disappointing. I
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am very disappointed with where the country is right now.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, so am I let me start out bout giving
big kudos to Governor Printzer of Villain, Pritzker of Illinois,
the Mayor Brandon of Chicago, and my city of Chicago
for being tenacious and tough asses and standing up because
he deployed the National Guard to the city of Chicago,
and Chicago is not having it. They put out the
(08:44):
South trucks, the black Ice. They also the city is
fighting back, their marching, they're protesting. They are running these
ice people up out of their neighborhoods and out of
their Listen to me, I told you, Bobby, when they
said that they're I said, Chicago ain't like that. I'm
from Chicago, Chicago. I like that. We're not gonna play
with you in Chicago. Chicago is a different elephant, and
(09:04):
I love it. I love the fact that because what
happened with Jimmy Kimmel and ABC and we protested so
hard and they put him back on TV, we really
do have the power if we stick together as one
to win for Chicago. Baby, Chicago gonna fight back. And
I'm saying that nicely, but Chicago gonna fight back. Thank you, Chicago.
That's why I'm built for tough, because I'm from the
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Windy City.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I didn't I think I had read something about a
judge that temporarily put a restraining order as far as
National Guard troops going out there, which is good because
they shouldn't. I do think there is an opportunity. You know,
he's just doing The administration is just doing crazy stuff.
They want to get us used to seeing the military
and neighborhoods in federal having more power. But I do
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think there's an opportunity lost if the administration is calling
the governors first and seeing if they need help, that
the especially Prisker, because he's got to set on him,
could flip the script and say, yeah, we don't want
the National Guard, but we are crime is high. We'd
like to maybe see some dea people be sent in,
(10:13):
you know, some more undercovered people that we can go
in and let me use your people the way that
I need them, not what you're sending because nobody wants
the National Guarden there. But those conversations aren't happening.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I understand what you're saying, Bobby, and Chicago does have
a high crime rate. But here's the thing. It is
not what you do, is how you do it. That's
what I'm saying to louly correct. If he would have
picked up a phone administratively as opposed is trying to
bully every goddamn body and say, hey, let's have a meeting.
What do we need to do to help you to
get your city back in alignment with the rest of it.
(10:45):
But he did not. He just went public because he can.
Every damn day on the damn news, we got to
see him talking about absolutely nothing, babbling and rambling, and
he's going after everybody with these tactics of disrespect. Governor
Princeter didn't get in that office because he said the
application and got the job. He was voted into that position.
The mayor was voted into that position with no help
(11:07):
from Elon Musk catched everything, and people voted for them
because that's who they wanted to represent them. So you
go to the representative professionals as a statesman, speak like
you got some goddamn common sense and some democracy and
some care for your country. And that's that state that
you govern, because you governed the country, so you govern
that state. But that is not what he does. He
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goes what I'm saying as rant goes crazy, pisses everybody off,
so combatively, No, said, you don't get to dictate to
me and tell me what I want in my city.
So then, and that's what he does not like. So
nobody likes that, so they pushed back on him. Mind you,
I'm with you, Bobby. It could have worked had he
went at it a different rate, but of course he won't.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
No, and I agree, that's what I'm saying. Had there
been a conversation, had it's an opportunity lost for both sides,
he could have come out like a hero. I actually
brought crime down because I lent these federlate whatever the
agency were that Prisker said he needed. And I'm sure
it would be different for each state because each state
has different We talked about Portland, Oregon, and how Oregon
(12:09):
I'm saying it wrong, and how they have you know,
a higher maybe drug issues, then it might be more
violent crime in Chicago. So it could have been packaged
up for each governor what they could offer or the governor.
Let the governor ask, I'm willing to give you some
federal resources, what do you need and let the conversation
go from there. So I think it was a real
opportunity lost for both sides and for the people. You know,
(12:32):
God forbid, you know that people who are hiring everybody,
everybody's getting a salary other than that, I think it's
five hundred and fifty government people in our military, our
tsa all that we look at the everybody who's not.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I'm gonna tell you somebody, when you just say something
that's sparked a brand I hate because I was looking
at the salaries of these ice people. They are getting
a fifty thousand dollars signing bonus, they're getting that paid
one hundred thousand dollars a year, and they're getting fifty
thousand dollars off their student loans. What's going to happen
is people gonna quit their government jobs and quit the
military and sign up for ICE. I believe if there wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
An age limit and a weight limit, I'd be in
for the student loans.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Or is it age? Is there an agent awaight limit
for ice?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I'm assuming. I mean, what were I gonna do? Belly
buck them into the next I'm.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Gonna say, I've seen some thick ice characters, some big
people that they covered up. You might not be able
to see they face, but you can damnage the CDAs
good God, they waddered the damn truck when they back up,
you know how the truck say, maybe there are quite
a few beats on those ice beat. But what I'm
saying is that that money is attractive. Fifty thousand dollars
signing bonus and one hundred thousand dollars salary. You not
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make people not making money like that.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, for middle for middle income, lower middle income people
especially you just said that the student loans. You could
have a lot of people that have want nothing to
do with that work, But that's attractive to them because
a you can get a job. I'm seven months now
unemployed interviewing, not a lot of bites, not a lot
of jobs. We have more people out looking for work
than we have jobs coming in so to to get
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those perks, and I'm sure they get great benefits. Yes,
the work's hard and people are spitting on you and
everything else, but it might make it attractive.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
So but yeah, I say it makes it attractive. But
then when history is written with side of history do
you want to be on you have? It's what you
have at yourself. Yeah, because history will be reatten and
I want to know what side of history am I
gonna be on. I'm gonna be on a good side
or I'm gonna be on the side of that hates people.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, well, yeah, we're going to see, because you know, Scotus,
everybody's looking at right now whether this is even legal
to send it out. These aren't insurrections. Insurrections are a
certain way. We saw what January looked like that year,
and they're saying that was just a riot. These are
peaceful demonstrations. You can't be saying people in for peaceful demonstrations.
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But anyway, as I started out, it's too bad because
there was a real opportunity lost here. This could have
been this could have been something for good. He could
have been the president who who was you know, tough
on crime instead of the way. It is the one
thing that I do want to give him. I can't
say credit because we don't know if it's going to
(15:22):
actually happen. Is it looks like I know that Israel
signed off on that twenty point deal that the Trump
administration was brokering between Gaza and Israel, and so they're
sort of taking a victory lap now. But until I
see the is it twenty eight people that are missing
(15:44):
and we are the forty eight people, twenty alive, twenty
eight dead. Until I see the bodies, both alive and
dead coming over, I can't give. I can't give any credit.
But if he gets it done, God love him.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Bobby. You are so America. You are such an American.
Every week when I'm bashing Trump, you always find the
way to have something right on the borderline, almost nice
about him. She's so white. I love it.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's not that. But if he did get I mean,
we have to give. So we pick on him when
he's a boob, which is all the time, so we
have to you know, I listened to him this week
and I thought, why can't someone shut him up? He
was talking about the furloughed the furload the workers and
with the government shutdown, and that he's now which he
(16:34):
doesn't have, so Congress is the is the purse. And
to declare war, he's trying to declare war like through
the insurrection, like he's trying to do it all himself
and give himself more power. But he's going to hold
their salaries. And he actually said, you know, we're going
to help some people. Some people don't deserve any help,
and they're beyond tout. And I'm like, what are you
talking about. You're the president for everybody, whether you like
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them or you don't like them, and you're sitting saying
that if you don't vote on his you're not getting help,
and you have no right not to give back back
pay to them. And I'm telling you, he makes my
eyeballs pulsate. But anyway, if if I'm miserable to him
that way, I have to say, if he gets something done,
if what he did actually brings these these people home
(17:16):
to their family so they can bury them. And in
the Jewish faith, I think you have especially for my
Orthodox friends, they have like twenty four to forty hours
they have to do it, and this is two years.
They haven't been able to bury their people.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I can't. I cannot get involved in And as much
as I want to be, I was like, you know what,
will I'll already know that he had his hand in
a cookie job. So much for this to happen, because
during his campaign, he was the one who said that
he could stop the war on day one, he could
call make a phone call the very next day if
he's elected. He was elected, and he did not, and
he has not and he will later. Yeah, he has not,
(17:50):
he did not, and he will not. That's the name
of the episode. He has not, he did not, and
he will not do anything unless it aligns his pockets personally.
That's how I feel period. Yeah, And Boby, you know
what blew me because everybody was like, oh, Kama's a
black woman. Oh she's a woman, She's going to be
too emotional. She was just speaking somewhere recently. It was
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all over social media, lady, and it was on the news,
and she said, because these motherfuckers are crazy. That is
the Kamala Harris we needed on the campaign trail. But
everybody wanted her to be presidential or to be state secked.
I've said this for two years. When you are playing
in their game, you have to play like they play.
We needed the Democrats needed to get in the dirt
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with them. That was the only way to beat them.
You had to get in the dirt with them. They
didn't want to do it. They tried to rise above
and put Michelle Obama. When they go low, we go
hide when they go low. We were supposed to win
to hell and drug them right up underhill, but we
didn't that.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I think the turning point for her to me, just
like the turning point for Joe was really the debate
right when you saw that he got so confused and
care It could have been ambient. It could have been
everything he's saying, but you realized, but he can't be
in charge for four years. In the evening if we
had some sort of catastrophic something, he comp bey on
an ambient and this is what this is what's happening
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to him. I think the point for her was the
view when they opened it up, when they when they
lobbed it at her for her to make a correction
so people were comfortable and said, what would you have
done differently? And she said, I can't think of a thing. Yes,
you can and you didn't have to throw Joe under
the bus. Joe really wanted to be bipodisan support on immigration.
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He wanted Congress to make the decision. I don't feel
that way. That's okay, you know, And I think that
that's kind of got people because he did make mistakes.
We all make mistakes. At the time, it seems like
something's good, and then as you get a little bit
of distance from it, you go, eah, I should have
would have could it right? But she didn't take that opportunity.
But I wish she was like what you just said there,
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maybe not as aggressive, but said, you know what, we
screwed up, and I'm part of it, and this is
where we made the errors, and this is how I'm
going to change it. I keep going back to that
with the Democrats. They have horrible messaging. Even today they
keep complaining I'm so sick of listening about how bad
Trump is. Everybody Helen Keller from the grave knows how
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bad Trump is. But how are you going to change it?
So he's bad? What are you going to do to
make my life easier? I don't care that he didn't
do everything he's supposed to. What are you going to
do for me.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
This is where I'm met with that the Democrats did
not support Kamla Harris, the people in charge did not
support Kamla Harris. And now we got to take what
we're getting. And if you can see, what we're getting
is not even aligning with a whole lot of his
own supporters. The fact that Madrie Taylor did Taylor Green,
who was the biggest Trump boot liquor.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Reason, When the hell did that messy head bitch become
the voice of reason?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
And to me, that is what that is. A that
is a tail tale sign of the rats. See the
ship is sinking and they're running the.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Way, or he's gone so far whatever up down left right.
I don't even know what the right that she's saying.
The facts that we have a government shutdown, which we'll
talk about as soon as we get back from commercial break,
but I just want to end on this thought that
we have a government shutdown when it's there's only one
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thing that the Democrats actually want is just to come
to the table and make a decision about the ACA subsidies,
which are helping the bulk of the Red states. That's
who's being helped by this.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
The problem with the people in the Red States that
actually need this help and don't understand how much they
need this help are so hell bent on Donald Trump
could take a squad on their mother so during the
middle of a Sunday dinner and they still they're going
to mostly that most of them will still rive with him.
I'm like, I don't know what it is, Bobby, but
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it's like he's a pied piper of his people and
damsel don't play no instruments, but they can't. They follow
that smell and that smell must be mesmerized, must be
enticing to them because and I heard that smell was
none nice or whatever that smell has, they keep following
it and they will not let it go. Whoa hold on?
I mean some lawyer follows like that.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah he does. He has absolutely with his maga, his magabase.
There is anything that you can do. And and God
bless him. I mean you have said, and it's true
if you go back prior to the presidential years, he's
super entertaining. He is the king of marketing. He could
sell snow don't Eskimo and have him thinking it was,
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you know, his idea to make the snow. You know
like that. He came up with that, that whole concept
and and people actually buy into that. Think of marketing period.
You got to have that special toy for your kid,
You've got to have whatever it is, those new sneakers
on your feet, marketing.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
All of that. But he can't market those Epstein foles
because y'all ain't release SOI files yet. People the only
reason that they are holding out is because they don't
want Mike Johnson to swear in this Democrat. Is it
from Arizona? Is she from Arizona?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
She's her dad's seat. I believe she's Arizona.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yes. And because once she gets in, she has publicly
said they want you to get in. She wants those
Epstein files released. They're doing everything they can have to
release those files. Between Pambindy and Crossid Crooked Ptail, cash Retail,
we in trouble. Speaking of Pam Bondy, is that Bobby
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you know when I watched her being on the hot
seat on the floor, The way they evade the questions
and are so disrespectful and will be answered question directly
then to say purely yes or no answer question, They
flip it, spin it, turn it around, running back getting attitude,
get hostile, anything to deflect and distractor. Answer a simple
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question that was asked us, did you say this or
do you have this? Will you release that? It is
so many lives, Bobby, it's so many last nobody knows
what the truth is that, nobody knows where the truth
Look what.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You just said? Who does that sound like? Where do
they take their page from? Any other oversight made meeting,
regardless of the president who is in. When you get called,
you go in. You're respectful, you defer to them. You yes, sir, no, sir?
You you might have to say, which would none of
us like I plead the fifth. But at no time
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do you disrespect do you like almost spit out?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I am so disappointed. But Cash Fattell I thought was embarrassing.
She was downright humiliating and didn't answer a gd thing.
Now saying now you one of them, I'm like, what
is the point? And then I flip on the other side,
flame and I'm like, why the hell are we doing
oversight meetings when the government shut down? Figure this shit
out to get the government back. Well, you guys are
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in there an oversight where nothing's going to get answered,
and they know it now, Why haven't It's a waste
of time. Yeah, very I'm not going to say her name, right,
Adelita Gravalla. She's from she's from Arizona, and I know
that she's going to vote on it. They still, I mean,
there's still another step that will happen, but she would,
she would get it, like to the next committee where
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the Epstein files get released. That said, I'm so sick
of talking about him.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I mean, please, well you can't get it, you can't
get away from it. And my biggest fear now for
a lot of people that publicly goes against him or
publicly votes against him.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
You know, they just was it a judge whose house
was a set of blades last week? Was that as well?
They said, yes, again something else. But the retaliation of
his followers because you didn't bow down and kissed the
ring is even you know, it's like, oh my god.
So now according to so, according to the news media
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out that this week, they supposedly hired maybe two thousand
people to go to scour social media to see who
says negative things about him because now they want to
go after him. When I tell you, he wants to
be Kim Jong yung or Vladimir Putin's so bad that
he's driving him more crazy than he already is allegedly.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And I see, I don't even think. I mean, so
we do this, and I don't put this on my
social media. I don't think social media is supposed to
be social. It's supposed to be light, airy shaped pictures
of you, what you're doing, you know, not bashing any president.
I can't stand this one personally, forget about his presidency.
But I don't put things on it. What you were
(26:41):
just talking about for anybody who who was unaware is
Circuit Court Judge Diane Goudstein. She had blocked South Carolina
from turning over voter records to the DOJ because they're
looking for it's like back on the ice stuff. They're
looking for any information who was in there? They live,
where do they work? And she said no, and her
(27:04):
house went up in flames. Her husband was inside. And
I'm imagining this woman's middle aged, so he had to
be middle aged. It happened so fast, the fire, they said,
the poor soul. It was on a like a stilted house.
He had to jump out the window and almost didn't
make it with no shoes, nothing like jump out the window.
(27:24):
Nobody got hurt. But they're saying there's no evidence to
indicate that it was it was set intentionally. Yeah, you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I live in a house right on the first floor.
If I jump my big guess out the window and
the wind was right next to my beat, if I
jump my big guess out the one my knees gonna say, bitch,
didn't I tell you to stop playing with me? Jesus,
I am glad that nobody was hurting them.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
There'd be an eight foot divot where I landed. Horses
could drive down.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Now. I used to free up off the stage in
my heels and land on my feet. No, but I
couldn't even jump out this wondering in my flat feet
because it's something about the shock of a barefoot that
HER's even worse than having something sold on your foot.
So I know that was very painful for him.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Oh my god, did you see the new This is
totally off topic, but it just came into my head,
and I don't have a lot of information everybody, but
everybody can go on. It was CNN that was reporting it.
RFK Junior is now saying hold on to your hold
on to your panties. That autism. Early circumcisions now play
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a part in autism.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
When are you supposed to have it on your deathbed?
You do it when the baby's like brand new. So
it doesn't feel me well.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Now, but now let me say this. It's because I
didn't get circumcised until I was like eight. But here, yeah,
here's the thing. My mother regretted it. Afterwards a doctor
suggested it to her. And I had a very young mother.
My mother was seventeen when she had very young mother
who was very influenced by because their area, just like
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our era.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
You were told to respect the white coach, you were
told to respect the black robe. You were supposed to
told to respect the badge. So they told her that
that needed told be done. It was done. Now when
she researched that she got older.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I as a parent myself who has a son, I
think it's better not for men to be circumstanced. I
think that the I listened to me, and people have
their own, you know, they have their own from the
girl's side. Ew, well, if you teach your kids how
to claim themselves and you know, take properly take care
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of that.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
A lot of people don't.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
There's something about the pleasure of having an orgasm when
you still have the foreskin for the male that is
even ten times greater they say, or like fifty times
greater than it is without the circumcision, like a woman
would have quit. You know, you them thousand nerves. So
it was the maazing. But well, once I was grown
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and I had a kid, I made the very conscious
decision not to have my son's circle.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Side I had mine. It was one hundred and fifty
dollars out of pocket, but it was the best one
hundred and fifty I thought. I spent nice and clean.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, well, you know the need and so it needed
to be a man around. Yeah. Yes, and it is
a personal choice. But let's get back on topic. Let's
go back.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Let's get back to the big you think that's called
that's causing autism.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Though, I think that we have to look at the
well wait a minute, I think we have to look
at the source of who is coming from. Again, I
always say, look at the Thank you, Bobby, you eat
raw food off India. India is a beautiful country. But
if you banish food off the market in India. You
ain't no telling what you eat. It could be cowshit,
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you wouldn't know. They know how to dress up and
make it smell good. M Pam Bondy Pamby is a
walking example of I'm lost in the sauce when I
tell you there's some clouds in the coffee. And I
don't think that she's slow. I think that she I
think she's smart. The power appeal of saying that I
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am in the Trump's pocket and he listens to me,
and I have the President's here until I make him angry,
and then he's going to show her just how he
feels about her. And her day is coming. The wrecking
ball is coming for all of them, because all you
have to do one time is look the wrong way.
You ain't even got to say that you got to
make the wrong face. And somebody says, did you see
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their face on camera? When you see the wrong thing,
they're going to be it's going to be like watching
The Apprentice all over again. You're fired.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, No, I'm with you. I actually think she's a
very bright woman. I think she could do this job
and do it well if she wanted to. But she
she absolutely he gets this wonderful like he's following, whether
it's the people that vote for him or the people
that work for him. Initially, not once say that when
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she gets screwed by him. You know, everybody kind of tall.
It tells tall tales not tall, aren't tall. Their their experience,
and they're not very positive. That said, I was disappointed
by your behavior because she knows better, she knows what
it's supposed to look like. She could have just said no,
plead the fifth whatever. That was awful. It was awful.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well, it's my biggest issue with paying bond is that
you allowed to get the au lad to us on
camera to get the job, because you said you had
the files on your desk. That's what you were going
to release the files. But you did everything you could
to say nothing about those files, even when they showed
her Apparently they show her pictures of half naked women
and girls with Donald Trump under age, and she called
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those pictures salacious. Let us see, let the country, let
the American people, especially the seventy seven eighty people that
voted for him, let them see the pictures. Don't show
it to the ones that didn't vote all in short,
to the ones that voted for him, and see if
that persuades them. Man, if they have daughters and children
and sisters, that's that age imagining being touched or maliciously
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put on Epstein out and to have horrible things done
to them, them being ran through your daughters. And I
bet you they changed their man if they could see
their visual because the visual changes, and more so than hearsay.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah it's she shouldn't I go back to I mean,
he was a little quiet on the Epstein always he
said he was going to release she he the people
he surrounded himself with that they picked, including Pimbandi being one.
They all over promised. You know, she said they were
on it was on her desk and she had to
review them. And but now you're saying it wasn't on
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your desk, So what was on your desk? It was
that on your desk because you said the files on
my dead what was in it?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Show? Was they said whatever they the American people needed
to hear that date that they were going to get
those positions.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
So I don't think it ever resisted even then.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Going after James called me, I have no I have
no I don't feel no sense.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Well, that's a difference. Yeah, because he puts his nose.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I have no sympathy for him. Because he released them
files on Hillary cuinch in ten days before the election,
and then it damn show looked like she was slated
to win. But it turned people's minds they needed. He
planted such a seed of doubt and in the election
for her that it ruined the election for all of us,
because I think had he not won the first time,
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he would not be the president at this time. I
think had he lost the first time, he'd went on
to set his ass down somewhere. When did he?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
That would have been it? Well, it's no, There wouldn't
have been enough return on investment. And I don't mean
that fresh he was in the seventies. It wouldn't have
been worth it. I am sure he would have looked
and said, yeah, is it worth it? Is it? And
Joe might ever got in. Joe might have never felt
the need to run himself, so he wouldn't have to
compete against him, Like I could be older, I could be.
(35:00):
It might have been old. She could have had two
terms and that been the end of it, I know.
And now the Supreme Court rejected an appeal for Gallainne Maxwell.
So I mean, I kind of like that. But now
they're talking about or he's talking. He was asked point
blank would he would he partner and he said, well,
a lot of people are looking for partners for me,
but I have to review the review her file and
(35:24):
that Caitlyn is a Kaitlyn Conlin Caitlyn Collins on CNN
and said yeah, but you know she's for trafficking young
woman like she was trying to like lob it to him.
So he'd say absolutely not, and he didn't. He kept saying, well,
I'll have to review it. That should be an absolutely
not if he was a smart man. No, I'm not
for a sex trafficker where there's too much evidence against it. No,
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not in that particular.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I'm going to say this publicly on this platform, and
this is only my opinion. I've said this before though publicly.
I do not believe that Jeffrey Fstein is deceased. That's
a I do believe that he is somewhere safe and kept,
and I believe that he has put out the demand
that Galay Maxwell needs to be released because somebody else
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besides delay Maxwell has the Epstein file somebody besides her,
because she's incarcerated, and if anything happens to her or
to him, those paperwork, the paperwork is going to come
from somewhere else. He's going to release it to the meeting,
somebody's going to release it to the media. I believe
that he is going to pardon her and she's going
to disappear, and wherever wherever Epstein is allegedly, I believe
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she's gonna be right there with him because the only
person knows it's hurt probably on other people that that,
but that does not laughing learned or black effect or
iHeart that is Flamembro's opinion.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, I'm not a conspiracy person, but as I said
to you, after these last ten months, I believe I'd
absolutely believe anything. You know, see your members reporting that
the poor military with the with the shutdown are actually
having to take loans out to keep themselves afloat because
the military food pantries empty. There are growing lines at them,
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you know, and then they're empty when they get there.
They have canceled school events because they kind of afford
to put them on. And I would never think that
you would see that in the United States. So I
believe anything.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Listen, do you know how disparaging it is? I was
watching David b Or who you know, I absolutely love
me some David Bill News tonight and Mike Johnson got
a phone. He was doing a live taping with someone.
He got a live phone call from an army's wife
who has children, and she was, listen, you guys need
to go back in. I can't feed my children. They
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say they're not getting paid. It was so he away.
It's the Democrats fault, the Democrats, the Democrats. It's not
the Democrats fault. It is the Republican's fault that we
are in this damn government shut down because they won't
get I believe on his lead. All Mike Johnson has
to do is call the Congress backing and swear this
woman in, which he will not do because they don't
want to release the FSTINC file. They're so busy running
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away from this truth that they're going to destroy the
American people, even in the military. How disparaging is that
for if we do go into a war, that people
are not going to want to sign up to fight
for our country, younger men and young women, because the
military is not defending them, they're not paying them. They
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want to go into a hissy fit trying to hide
this bullshit as files. Meanwhile, my family is at home.
I'm eight thousand miles away in another country fighting somebody
who I don't know why I'm fighting them. They ain't
need nothing to me personally, but my government is not
paying me. So my family is starving or living with
someone else, or have to do what they have to do. Bobby,
that's fucked up.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I agree. And the thought of again military moms having
to go to food pantries to be able to feed
their children.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Do you hear me? Do you hear me? Bullshit? Bobby? Yeah,
I'm my husband or my wife. My spouse is in
combat fighting for their lives, could killed at any time,
and I'm over here suffer. So I'm worried about that,
and then I'm worried about having to take care about family.
I have to pay the bill, Barbi, that is so
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much weight on America, and the Republicans are not thinking
about that at all. They are just doing as they
are told because they are too afraid that because they're
going to lose their situation. So we're back. Let me
tell you what what holds a lot of weight to
me right now. This week with this whole conversion therapy
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thing that they're talking about doing, no, and I don't
want to know. And I seen that there was one
week that was supposed to be closing alligated Alcatraz. Now
I've seen where they bringing incinerators supposedly to alligated Alcatraz.
And it is barbaric that they're talking about the things
that they're talking about doing to transgend the people that
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they have deemed mentally ill. Meanwhile, we have a state
senator that's a transgender person. Is Sarah mac bradmantal you
she this woman? I'm sorry, She's like.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, Colorado conversion therapy in Colorado, and.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
This is what want to do it. They want to
do it everywhere. We have a we had a general
that was transgender, a whole general in the military. She
didn't make it up the ranks because she was mentally ill.
She made them the ranks because she was skilled and
she did her job. Yes, And that is what I'm saying.
Don't look at you like, because we do got some
(40:27):
crazies on the internet that Lily Tino and a few
other ones that do barbaric shit, especially towards women and children.
So those are understand you're not gonna let two or
three apples foroil the whole bunch because it doesn't work
that way. But that is how they're trying to line
it up. Bobby, and the country wants to say, we
lost this election because of the economy, the price of age,
(40:48):
the price of gas. We lost this election. My words,
my experience to me because so many people jumped on
the bay them and the LGB a lot of the LGBT,
and not only that, that was just such a large
component that they put in that they used, the Republicans
used to weaponize to scare people. It was a fear
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taxic that worked for their base.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
No, absolutely, and racism and it was a racism yeah,
when I was the world.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Let me tell you what Donald Trump did, because everybody's
like he created racism. Lies. I'm going to defend him
on that one. He didn't create racism. What he did though,
was took the doll colors off, He took the muscles off.
He relieved Okay, yeah, he released the pound baby. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
He I mean, I think of him. I go back
to his first term when he was picking on that.
I think he had cerebral policy, that reporter that had
cerebral policy, and I mean right blatantly. Well, he was
speaking with people, not something that he got hot, caught
on a hot mic or something. And when he did that,
all all any type of prejudice people had towards anybody,
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whether it was sex, whether it was color, whether it
was the handicapped, whether it was the elderly, it was
it was okay to share those thoughts. They people laughed
and thought it was funny. Not at the time in
there they were horrified.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
But oh, Bobby, I thought that was disrespect. I thought
the way he threw the paper towels at Puerto Rico,
which is our country, were going talk about that in
a minute. Yeah, I thought that was way more disrees.
They don't throw shit at me. I'm not a fucking animal.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
He doesn't even he doesn't even know. I mean Scotus
is now they have a bunch of cases, because that's
what he does. He throws everything to the cases. He
knows that the half of the stuff that he's doing
is is you know, he's not going to get away
with it, but he'll just tie it up in court.
I kept those biscuits. We could get those biscuits paid
for if a month he took.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Bobby uh uh uh shit with them damn biscuits, Bobby, Yeah,
what is her obsession with these biscuits? Job?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
If we joke, if we just took three of the cases,
what the legal fees would have been, we would have
had the million and a half to get to get
that all distributed. It just makes no sense to me.
But he'll bankrupt the country over all of these bullshit
legal cases. And Scotus is trying to see what his scope,
what the presidential scope is, And you know what else
I want them to look at. This is Bobby Clifford
(43:16):
saying this guy. So, Scotus, if you're listening, I want
to know who keeps the president in check. So I'm
going to go back to the guy that was sent
to El Salvador when Scotus said get him back, facilitate
the return, and nobody did for four to six weeks.
Who was supposed to follow him up? So if you
say you don't have this power, sir, all right, So
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who's checking them? Is that all the house in the Senate,
Well then they better get on it. But I'm going
to be very interested to see how a lot of
these cases because they should be reading the Constitution, which
is very clear about the separate and unique powers and
equal powers everybody. I'm going to be very interested to
see what these constitutional scholars kind of come back with.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
So here's my here's the thing, Barby Clifford. Because we
got off this subject so quickly with the conversion, with
the conversion therapy, let me tell you why that is
scary to me, why that is so scary to me.
Because they're going after the youth of lgbt Q, they're
going after the t they're going after the most impressionable minds.
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And from what I hear, I've never experienced a conversion place,
but from what I've heard from the horror stories of
people who have, it is almost barbaria. It's almost like
an exorcism. If you ever watch The Exorcist with laved
the Blair, that they do all kinds of things to
you to try to chase the gay out of youth.
Let me tell you something about being gay, queer, transgender
with it. If you are, if that is truly who
(44:42):
you are in your it's in your DNA, it's in
your spirit, nobody can chase that out. That is not
something that I put on like a T shirt or
like a pair of joga pants. That is something that
is internal. And I don't think that they're understanding that.
And the reason why, and I'm going to say this publicly,
I think the reason why it's because what they were
saying on the internet in the schools. I don't disagree
(45:05):
that children need to learn a lot about life, but
I do disagree on when they need to learn it.
Why do I need to understand that this is that
at five and six years old? How about I can
just play with my blocks and understand that I'm going
to the bathroom on my own. Yeah, you know, put
your choys. So that's what you should be teaching children
at that age. I don't disagree that you know that
(45:27):
some families have LGBT in them, And I just think
that there's a proper time, there's a place, there is
a sit down, there is an understanding. And I think
that we would have been oversaturated with with and maybe
too fast. Let me say, and I'm part of the community,
but I think that we oversaturated and we've bombarded and
(45:48):
we just pushed and force and I think that that
calls it unbalanced in America. I think that they were.
It made people afraid that you're going to make my
children this way because you you will see so many commercials.
And here's the thing, we were transparent. We were pretty
much everywhere TV, commercials, the Congress, you know, the military,
(46:10):
We're everywhere. But I don't know if this younger generation
knew what it took for us to get there, because
it was just handed to them on a silver platter.
So they didn't know the struggle that it took us
to get to this plateau. And maybe me the way
they did I speak it, I didn't express it that
way that it has been a struggle for you guys
to get to this. They never heard me. But there
(46:31):
was a warning before this instruction, and I'm telling you, Bobby,
it scared the shit out of people. It scared the
daylights out of people, and they ran towards what didn't
scare them, even though what didn't scare them was evenerio
then having the gay kidd.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
I agree with that. I don't think. I think prior
to there's a few people that I have seen and
you know who they are. They and they were rightfully
so they wanted it all. They wanted complete equality right now,
and I agree that they should have been allowed it,
but some people weren't ready for it yet. So the
(47:06):
more we had things like RuPaul drag Race, I'm going
to use it as a possible a positive light where
they kind of brought out some people in the community
and they made it positive. They made it easy. I
always say about you, You've always You've always made me
I don't ever think about trans or sexuality or anything
with you, because you just make it about being flame.
(47:27):
The more people I would be that was I was
exposed that would be like that, the more comfortable I became.
But when you got people that were demanding and I
want and they were angry, you got a very especially
if you had no exposure to people that were trans.
I agree with you. I think it made people really,
really nervous, and I think those ads I agree with
(47:48):
you during the football games. I think that kind of
sealed the deal because it brought the whole subject back
up that nobody was thinking about, and they took their
own insecurities and they went ooh, you know, I don't know,
And so I agree it didn't cause the fight with
everything but it certainly did. It was one more thing
that got added to the pile.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
And fear and ignorance go hand in hand. That's right,
ignorance go hand in hand. And he prides hisself on
and on a base that are afraid of him a
and that's too dumb to take the tangent research or
find out for themselves. They only go what he on.
What he says. It's today, Wednesday or Thursday.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Today is Thursday all day, absolutely all day.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
I'm sorry, I had a Trump moment. Y'all know what
day of the weekend was that was?
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Did you see? I think this is terrific. Tb asked,
because you know that this administration is defunding our our
PBS channels. You know where we used to watch, at
least when Flame and I were young, used to watch
Sesame Street and Zoom and the Electric Company and all
those podcasts self Old Lady there in order to raise money.
(49:03):
And I thought this was absolutely terrific. They're selling some
Bob Ross's pictures and he started on PBS. He was
somebody that was a painter, and he was very calm
and he kind of tried to teach people to paint
and they're hoping to raise one point four million, and
I think that's a terrific way to try to meet
that shortfall. You know, we don't need your money. Well,
(49:25):
we'll raise money on our own with one of our own.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Let me let me say this about the public PBS
channels and the Schoolhouse Rocks and all that. Those commercials,
those little shows helped me with my education. Like you
wouldn't believe, Bobby Yeah, to be able to sing the
preamble we the people in order to serve a more
(49:48):
perfect union. Yep. I would have never remembered that when
I having that little catchy tune in my head as
we were doing that test in the eighth grade. I
would have never known about so many different bills unless
they had that commercial and they're helping me camp. Those
things were so healthy to children. That is what they
need to bring back in these for these preschoolers up
(50:11):
to maybe seven and eight nine years old, because it
was educational, It was so entertaining, It was so easy
to comprehend when you've seen a little kid in a
cartoon form that oh, I can relate to this kid.
And they say it helped because these kids everything is
animated and AI will just remove all of that. I
think that's doing a great disservice to the world, to
(50:32):
get rid of the PBS, to get rid of the
schoolhouse rock, to get rid of all of those things,
because those things as children our era. I'm talking about sheep,
but I mean about the same age. Damn there why
we got a birthday next week.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
But we're.
Speaker 6 (50:46):
Really really, really really helped us to understand the ways
of life actually and to learn it because the teacher's
not teaching at school, and at that time, we may
have had seventeen eighteen in a class as opposed to now,
for we had forty.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, no, no, I had twenty six kids in my class.
But I'm going to add another layer to that. I
have ADHD and I didn't when I was young, I didn't.
They would say I was a day dreamer and I
would look out. So I'm going to add on. As
far as learning, it taught kids that might have had
some type of learning disability, mild, whatever, a different way
(51:25):
to learn. So, you know, like I learned about all
of my grammar stuff conjunction junction, what's your function? And
then they would tell you what things to do, what
the function was and I remember it because I did
it through I'm an auditory learner versus a written learner.
When it was on the board, I couldn't concentrate on that.
(51:46):
So it was it really reached a lot of kids
in a lot of different ways, and it was it
was really fun. What I like is that there is
sticking the thumb in the eye of the administration saying,
all right, you're cutting off our money. We're gonna again
try to generate our own with one of our own
somebody that helped us start it and make it and
make it popular. I wish I had money, I'd buy
(52:06):
one of his ugly ass paintings he painted in a
half hour, remember, and he'd have you painting it too.
He was sort of like, what is that that sip
and paint? He was like, the original will you go
in an hour?
Speaker 3 (52:17):
You know?
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Now we go to a restaurant that's probably like ten
years ago and you paint with your girlfriends or whatever,
and they put a picture up and they tell you
how to make the strokes and everything. That that's what
he would do. He was ahead of his time. So
I hope I hope they rose. They raised what point for.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Those challenge to me, they should bring that back since
they want to go this whole Christian and they wanted
to me, they should bring all of that back because
they were really helping you. And they need to bring
back mister Rodgers neighborhood, even though he has passed on right,
I thought mister Rogers was just the neighbor I wanted.
I lived in all in the projects, in all black neighborhood.
I didn't give a fuck. I wanted mister Rogers to
(52:53):
be my neighbor. He was the nicest white man ever
and I loved his sweaters. But but Bobby, I think
what they're really trying to do is erase our history,
and not just black folks, because we're not baby boomers.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
What are we? We're gen Z no gen X, excuse me,
gen x.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
X from gen X to gen Z. They want to
erase that and restart. They want to restart, And yeah, well,
I said restart to me because what he is, what
he's doing, is he wants to restart what he watched
somebody else dow in another country. No names need to
be mentioned, but the first name again with the last
(53:37):
name begin with the H. It is with an R
you do the math in the mid and it don't.
It remains with Middler. Uh huh, No, they do.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
And it's learning from our mistakes. So we just talked
about Kamala Harris right on the view. Had she said
owned what she did wrong and showed how she was
going to change it, we would have a different opinion.
The same goes for history. We have to own our
warts and all in the horrible things that we've done
and so that we don't repeat it and we don't
do it over again. And if we wipe that out
(54:12):
and the kids don't get exposure to that, not going
to learn. We're only just over the past ten years
learning black history, the intricate blast black history, not the
overall arching five people that we that we sort of
learned about. So to now take that back, you know, it's,
(54:32):
as I say, I keep biding my time. We have
a little over three years and then everybody, we only
have a year until we only have a year till midterms.
We've got to get out there for the midterms. Well,
at this point we have fan the flame. And what
I noticed this week was, I don't know, if you
watch Bad Bunny on Saturday Night Live, I just thought
(54:53):
it was a little interesting, but he did half in
English and then he did a whole bunch in Spanish,
and I got to say, God to see beautiful. He
is a He is a pretty pretty Puerto Rican Man American, Like,
let's let's let's add that in because people keep forgetting
that Puerto Rico is part of America. It's not a state,
but it's one of our territories. And he said, if
(55:16):
you can't understand what I'm saying, you better get used
to it. You got four months because he is now
going to be the halftime show and everybody's in a
big hubbub. They should have an American do it. That's
why I threw in that he's an American and people
are all up in arms, and what.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
Do you think? And he's going to do half of
it here. He said he would do half of it
in Spanish. And here's the thing. America is a melting pot.
We have so many different bilingual people here, different or
not more than bilingual people still speak their own language
from wherever they're from, as well as speaking English. I
think it's respectful to his culture. I think it's respectful
(55:54):
to his people, to his to his fans. And I
think it's respectful to America because she said, boy, he's
an American citizen. He is an American citizen. Okay, he's
from Puerto Rico, He's still an American citizen. And they
want to show their pride and their heritage. And I
think that because we will allow. And I was down
with because Kendrick Lamar, I'm a fan, but Ken Dick
(56:16):
Lamar showed his black culture last year and people were
up in arms. I think it will be only right
that bad Money can show his Puerto Rican heritage, you know,
doing the supertanent have all the time show when they
hire somebody else that's another nationality, I think they should
be afforded the same luxury. Because I'm an American. I'm
not going to forget my roots of where I came from.
(56:36):
And all of this hoopla, how they doing back and forth, Bobby,
I'll be shocked, but he really does get to host
it because from what everybody's showing, the way Trump has
so much power, I believe that he might be replaced.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
Well see, I mean he's definitely summing as his nose
and I love it because of all of the immigration
stuff that's going On is certainly you know, kind of
stick in his eye in that he's going to do
it in Spanish. He is like that, the hottest number
one streamer all over the world. They'll get more views.
(57:11):
And that's why I think he will be the one
that will do it. And I know where you're coming from,
but because it's always all about money. Look at Kimmel
was on. How quickly they replaced Kimmel right because everybody
stood and they boycotted, and they're not going to want
to irritate people if he's the hottest streamer right now
in the world, and I think he is the right.
I mean again, we have a Spanish speaking territory. He
(57:31):
has every right to speak speak the language of it.
He speaks two. I really even speak one.
Speaker 3 (57:39):
And there's so many people here in America that does
speak English. It is so many people that speaks English.
I mean Spanish is taught in Spanish is taught in school.
So they just in a hoop the hobby because he
is who he is. It's just a mess, but it's
going to be interesting to see. I personally think if
he does get to do the job, if the follow
through goes over, he's going to be quite entertaining. Oh,
(57:59):
I think, and I'm with you, Bobby, he's pretty to
look at. Oh my god, he's pretty to look at.
And he is.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
He's pretty and he is a pretty pretty man.
Speaker 3 (58:08):
So I say so, and I hope he comes out,
and I hope he comes out in his Kelvin Klein underwear.
Ed you ain't sending minutes underwear? He might not. I
don't know if you're a bad bunny. But it was something,
it was something funny up in those draws.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
It was a rabbit.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
That was one rabbits, that was a that was a
wielder beast. So but like ladies and gentlemen, thank you
guys for doing it. It's gonna be interesting to see
what happens at the super Bowl and I will be watching.
So thank you guys for joining us here laught alone,
here laft alone. We appreciate you, guys. We could not
have this show without you. We hope and pray that
you tell your friend's family whomever to listen in, tune in,
(58:49):
come travel with us, idea, send in questions in sending
stuff that we might miss during the week, and we
can talk about here on laugh Alarn and you send
those to Bobby Clifford a laugh aloone podcasts on Instagram
at laugh Alarm podcast page on Instagram. But other than that,
before I go out over all that, let me just
say this here are laugh alarn in five years. The
(59:10):
model has not changed and will not change. We are
not trying to get you to change your mind. We
are only trying to get you to use your mind.
Because of why, Bobby, Because.
Speaker 1 (59:20):
Your mind and more importantly, your vote, and we're voting
in it. We're voting in one year is a terrible
thing to waste.
Speaker 3 (59:29):
If we keep going at the rate we're going, we
might not even have a country in one year. But yes,
Bobby is very right. Our vote is the terrible thing
in the waste, and midterms is in one year. Y'all
better get together. They sending it up for us not
to be able to win. Any who. You can follow
me on all social media platforms at Monroe Flame on Instagram,
Flame Monroe everywhere else. I'm still currently on tour with
Tiffany Hattis. Monday November third, I would be at least
(59:51):
in Atlanta for my Green Party, and November seventh and eighth,
I'll be in Mississippi, and Alabama. I'm also about to
get some new dates for the Funny Bones. Y'll hold
on and wait. I also think I'm going on tour
with somebody. I'm just waiting on a phone call. And
where can we follow you at? Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
You can follow me at Clifford Bobby on Instagram, Bobby
Clifford on TikTok and Facebook. And my fat Irish ass
is right here in Boston. I'm not going anywhere unless
Flame goes on tour with somebody, and maybe I will
meet her.
Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
But if you're a good looking man, maybe fifty to
fifty two follow Bobby because she needs to be followed.
I'm just saying, oh, thank you. We'll see you guys
next week. Why whack. Don't miss an episode of Laugh
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