September 19, 2025 • 51 mins
In this episode of Laugh and Learn, comedian Flame Monroe and co-host Bobbi Clifford celebrate the fifth anniversary of the Black Effect Podcast Network while reflecting on personal challenges and the broader state of society. They dive into the legacy of Robert Redford, the current climate around freedom of speech, and the lasting impact of cancel culture in America. The hosts also examine issues of political accountability, recent tragedies that have shaped public discourse, and the resilience needed to navigate economic and social pressures. Flame and Bobbi emphasize the importance of standing firm in one’s beliefs while staying informed and prepared for the future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Peace of the planet.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Charlamagnea god.
Speaker 3 (00:01):
Here.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Before we get into today's episode, we've got to celebrate
the Black Effect Podcast network. It's turning five years old, man,
five years of powerful voices, unforgettable moments in the community
that keeps growing. This is the power of the platform.
Now let's get into it.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
If you watch the Coffee Time the baby you know
what ain't Flame Monroe also known as Moroe Flame, come
in with last and come in with you love loumbs. Baby,
you better catch it when you can drop a knowledge
from fatherhood to politics.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Shouting now comics, just paying homage. What's up tips?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah you know she raised shot town zone speaking to
the grown a second. We're gonna last come up and
kick it in. At the end, we leave it with
just a lifted spirits speak. You want to revisit so
your friends take a listen, young folks say it's lip
Oh folks that we dig it good?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Hey, do this do what you do? Can't know this?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Do what you do? Can't no this?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Do what I do?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
No this.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We go we Flame.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Hey. Hey, this is comedian Flame Monroe and welcome to
this week's episode of Blast to Learn. Listen, we got
a lot to cover today. I'm gonna get it. We're
gonna jump into it. But before I go any further,
I have to bring on my delicious hoes. That's my
word for today. Delicious, Oh herself, Miss Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
How you hi? You tuts delicious? I'm thinking that's not
because I'm too fatty or anything. Is it extra flavoring?
But I take dazzling.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
M h. I gave you delicious. Delicious is my word
for today.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Oh okay, and you could be scrumptious.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I'm always scrumptious. I got plenty of people to back
that up too.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Do you know anything?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I am? Well? We will be talking about how I am?
I am well?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
We all talking about America right now. I'm just talking
about you.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
No, I know, but it's it's I've got. I've gotta
be quite honest. I don't know if it's the so
many months of still being unemployed, what's going on in
the country, but I feel like a case of the
blue coming on, and I am so disgusted with what's
going on, which we're going to get into everything that
I am. I can't say I usually am chirpy, I'm Okay,
(03:08):
I'm going to get through it. We're all going to
get through it. But I'm I'm feeling a little bluish.
How about you?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I as a as a trans person living in America,
as a black person living in America, as a comedian
living in America. Right now, every day I wake up,
I don't know what to expect, and I hate waking
up like that. You don't know what you're going to
turn on your TV and you just don't know what
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barbaric statement will come from the administration, from the government,
from people in those physicians, between the last and the
deception and the separation and the division and hate. I'm
telling you, Bobby, every day I'm just like, you know what.
I thank God that I woke up, But what have
I woke up to? What have I woke up to?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
No? I agree, And so part of me is, as
I said, it's given me the blues. But the other
part to me is I keep saying, well, do then
do something. You know, I know I'm one little person,
and well I'm not a little person, but one person.
And you don't feel like you have enough power. You
can do stuff, but you can do stuff in the
small ways and I have to, you know, continue to
(04:16):
sort of stand in my truth and say, all right,
I'm not shopping at these places if I don't believe
in their ideology, I'm not. We will get to what
is going on with ABC, but I need to get
rid of Hulu, my in the Disney Channel and all
of that jazz. I have to start standing in my convictions,
getting them with my vote and getting them with my purse.
(04:37):
And that's what I can do, and trying to be
involved as much as I possibly can. But it is
it's very this week. I feel very discouraged.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and we have reasons, sense, you have
reasons to discouraged. The jobs marketing is crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Right, No, No, it's not.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
No.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Members are so stupid, They're so bad.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
And you have to do what you have to explain
to the audience that you are being sarcastic because some
people may not know that.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh yeah, unemployed six months, everybody, I got a March tenth.
I've been unemployed and trying to find a job. I
had a flurry of activity at the beginning when I
for was first unemployed, had a bunch of interviews, did well,
they ended up hiring in the jobs I had from within,
which I get I would hire full within as well, sad,
(05:30):
but and then nothing because of the summer. And now things,
thank god, thank you Jesus, are picking up again now
because summer is over and whatnot. But something's happening because
the Fed lowered the interest rate, and you know, Powell
didn't want to do that, but he is so nervous
over the poor jobs numbers, and he doesn't want inflation
(05:51):
to get worse or kind of kick in, and he
definitely doesn't want a recession. So we loaded by a
quarter this week and supposedly, and he just because he
doesn't want to do too much at once. And then
I am not a numbers person, trust me. If you
looked at my bank account, I'm always in a negative.
He said he's going to lower it probably two more
times this year to try to stay ahead. And of
(06:11):
course the markets and everything went crazy and all that jazz.
They're sort of leveling out a little bit now. But
if we had good jobs numbers and there was nothing
to worry about. The tariffs, believe it or not, so
far aren't being as catastrophic as they thought, killing our relationships,
but not as catastrophic with the economy yet, and I
think he is. He's got a tough he's got a
(06:34):
tough balancing act. You know, he's like the juggler at
the Barnum and Bailey Circus. He's trying to put in
the air.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So what you just said about the terriffs, they haven't
kicked being as of yet, but they are coming and
well some of them have and they have. Barber by
the way, seventy five more than seventy five containers fell
off for both here last week. I think we talked
about that.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I know what we did.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
A lot of those they still have not retrieved. They're
still in the water, which is going to do damage
to the to the to the fish. And yeah, it's
just it's just beyond it's beyond crazy. So we're hoping
that these terrors don't come in so hot and heavy.
But I do love the fact that Amazon is about
(07:19):
to list listing on there. When you order something, they're
going to tell you exactly how much your extra your
terrorists adds to your bill. So Whatevegels is doing and
showing you why it's going up. But does that mean
that we're going to stop it or cancel it? No,
I listen, boycotted Amazon for quite some time after the
election and being realized, you know what, I'm sorry I did.
(07:44):
I didn't realize I don't want to go to the
store and grab this. I don't want to go looking
for that. It just so and so I want you
to know I'm not free. And I know some of
you guys have did the same thing. I'm a meeting,
but I did that. I made a mistake. Some of
you'll mistakes. Was you voted wrong. We can't take that back.
That would we stuck with that ship right now. But
I have done that. Boy it because it is convenient
(08:07):
a B. It's just it's easier. You know, I'm not
twenty five anymore. I can't just ramble to run to
the store and pick up a fifty inch flat screen
and run back home. And when I can just turn
over and order it off the phone, and I know
what's coming, and if it's damage and broken, I can
recind it back. I hate that Jeff Bezos is with
the D I think, but you know Amazon is. I'm
(08:29):
not defending Amazon. I'm just talking about my situation. But anyway,
I get it. We're going to go on a little further.
We're going to talk about the death of a legend
of a beautiful Oh my god, Robert Redford was such beautiful.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You just said it. That was the when I think
of him. I don't know if you get prettier. Paul Newan,
he and Paul Newman, I don't know if you get prettier.
They were showing really old like when he was in
his twenties. My god, I don't know if I peed
my pants or am I just my pants got wet
and being so excited. But he would.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Beautiful and I never remember any time that he was
ever caught up in any kind of celebrity scandal or anything.
He was a a preservist, He loves people. He was
a humanitarian. He cared about this his fellow man. He
cared about the environment. He made exquisite movies. I'm talking
(09:22):
about classics that will go on for generations and generations, generations.
And he was a good looking man. Oh my god,
I know, Barbara Strys said when she kissed him in
the way we were, I know when they was making
that movie, she gave him something. I know. She comes
as Barbara Man. Have you read Barbara's book, BARBARAA smash
had the States princess. Ye oh yet now, but when
(09:45):
before Barbara got married, Barbara said, bring it on, but
don't don't rain on my parade. Barbara was passing out
like Christmas couldn't all ba.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well, she was out. She was out during the hipp
even movement. Let's remember, you know she's just about eighty
or like seventies eighty, right, so she was in that
free love and a women's empowerment.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, and I'm not saying at the throw Barbera under
the bus when I tell you I am such a
Barbara streichs saying, oh my god, you have no idea.
My mama looked like us. But yeah, I know barble
because he was such a pretty man, like how could you?
And then they had kissing things and everything, and he
sings in me, and I'm like, girl, you know you
let him slide it in, let him you let him
seek the heating. Y'all know that line. We all know
(10:26):
that line, just let me seek the heat.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Do you remember the movie Oh my god, I'm blanking.
It was the big romantic movie and it was the
Hubbo was was Robert Redford's character and Barbara streuisia the
way we were and Barbara Streisian and I heard her
talk about it in an interview. It was just something
she did because she probably found him so attractive. She
kind of moved his hair over at the end, like
when they were moving. She was a spige activist and
(10:51):
he was like an attorney like so he wasn't and
he was more straight late and I just I thought
that was one of the most romantic gestures that I
could say. Yeah, and so he he really is. And
you never heard any bad about him. As you said
he moved off to Utah. I didn't realize that Sundance
was his that he also developed the film festival. Sundance
(11:12):
was his home, and he just he loved the environment
and he loved he wanted to be away from the
Hollywood culture and blah blah blah. He went off and
he and his wife and had a beautiful life. And
that's the way to do it. God loved bless him.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
And that that again, that that celebrity, that mystery of
his celebrity is what will keep him always alleged, a
lot of these celebrities have let people so in that
I know what you're doing when you're in the bathroom.
I know when you use room, you have let people
in so far into your person that you don't become
celebrity anymore. You just become not And it's not that
(11:49):
celebrity or above any people. But some things you are
just not supposed to know, whether you're celebrity or common
or shit. But yeah, I thought he was beautiful and
I did love him and Robert him and it wasn't
named said his damn name?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Uh Paul Newman. The kids, Oh my god, I am
having a I'm having an a podcast.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I got it. And the Sundance Kid where they jumped
off of the cliff. I did that, by the way,
last year in the Dominican Republic. It was as high
as that too. I thought that he was a beautiful man.
He was just a resting peace to Robert Redford. He
so many celebrities came out and spoke on his behalf
with such kind and these words you could tell were authentic.
So he had to be a good human because people
(12:31):
spoke so highly of him.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So big director too, he had his finger in all
of it. He did a movie not long ago. When
I say that long, I mean over the past.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Man, When you said that I bet you like it
for him to put his finger in Okay, come on,
what were you some guy?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
No, he was a little too old, a little too
old for me. But he did a movie. It was
within the past two years he he started it. It
was a movie about, Oh my god, what is the
big walk, the hike everybody does from Georgia up to Maine.
But I have a friend that just did it. I
literally finished last week, and I can't think of what
Appalation Trail. And it was about the journey of the
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Appalation Trail and growing and meeting people and this whole
big thing that happened anyway. And he was doing it
as an older guy because he was in the seventies.
He was as sharp as attack. He delivered on the directing,
on the acting. I mean it was terrific. I mean,
he had it until the end. God bless him. May
we all live a life like Robert Redford.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Rest in peace. Robert Riverford from Laughing Len and Black
Effect Network. Okay, Bobby, let's move on down the line. Bobby,
so apparently we're all the TikTok drama. Let's start right there.
Trump has now allegedly acquired TikTok under America. So now
he's supposed to be trying to acquire TikTok, which means
(13:52):
that it will get censored if you say anything negative
towards his administration or him. And we are seeing that
every day. We will get to that on fan the Flames,
but we are seeing the dismantling of our of our
freedom and speech, freedom of speech, our media that had
any opposition on what is going on, you are being
taken out. It is. It is going to be completely
(14:14):
state run state We're on TV, state run news. They're
going to monitor what you watch, what you cannot watch,
what you can, what you will not be able to see,
what you will not be privy to, which will be
the truth always. It is about to get very sketchy.
And I don't even know what can be done, but
I'm telling you all right now, something has to be
(14:35):
done soon, and very soon, because we're gonna get to
a point where we can't go back. We're gonna get
to a breaking point where there's the point of no return.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, he doesn't surprise us. We've said this a million times.
What's surprising us is that he's he's bucking up against
our checks and balances, and they're not cracking down. The
Supreme Court has held him accountable on a few things,
but they haven't they haven't followed through, or they haven't
pushed the next level, like who follows through? It'll end
up going to the Supreme Court. A lot of this stuff.
(15:06):
And I hope that they're all constitutional scholars. I hoped
to God that they stick with what the constitution says.
But yeah, they're supposed to be. This big deal is
he's he's you know, rubbing toes with China. We'll see
if it actually happens, but it's continuing on. You know
what the next thing will be, you know, it's a
monetary thing. I wonder if the government will start taking
a piece of you know, of the moneies that you're making.
(15:29):
I know they do buy taxes, but in a different way.
I wonder if this will be a fee or something.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah. Well, yesterday Trump made his way to the UK.
He had a state he had a huge state dinner
with King Charles.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Oh my god, did.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
You see I saw the dinner. I saw Charles being
completely professional, being very statesman, very being very much a king.
And I also saw Trump, who was not disrespectful. But
he was reading that paperwork who wrote whoever wrote that
out like he had just witnessed it for the very
first time. He was even like he was in sixth grade.
I'm being very very honest. If you guys go look
(16:03):
at it. I'm not even being mean. I'm just being
fair and honest. And he just looked like he did
not belong there. Let me let me just say, he
just looked like he did not belong in that room
with those dignitaries. But they did roll out the red
carpet for him at the at the Buckingham Palace, but
not the British people. Oh honey.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
They went in, they boomed, they protested, they put pictures
of him and Epstein on the actual Buckingham Palace. They
put him, they did, They put a huge picture of
him and then on the yard.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
It is when I say that those Brits got the
balls and steel and I'm here forward, i am here
for it because the Americans or we could take a page,
we could take a page out their playbook.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Well that's where we came from. You gotta remember, you
know those that there is standing up and that and
that's why we broke away. From them because we thought
they were they were giving us too many rules.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Wait, wait a minute, we didn't come from there. I
was in the I was in the African jungle with
my grass in my nose, with my coconuts and my boobs.
Y'all came offer me a piece of pop ass chick
and I took it. Y'all caught me. I totally everybody
else and that we all stuck. It is Lewish.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh my god, you're so funny. My people didn't either.
If if I ever said to my Irish family that
we came from England, they would lose their shi t.
But the country, did you know? That's the strong you know,
guerrilla warfare type of type of acting is definitely coming
from the UK. But they I loved that you pointed
(17:34):
out about King Charles, because they are in the prime Minister.
They're in a slippery slope over there in Europe because
they want this shit shut down in Russia and Ukraine,
because they are right there. They're like, you know, it'd
be like you in Arizona, you know, like it's not
it's not far distance plam for a push of a button.
(17:56):
So they need his help and you know what he
loves more than anything is to be treated like like
he was the king. And they rolled it out that
it was so sick that they did a beautiful job. Uh.
They gave him everything that he likes. He likes to
be stroked. It was stroking. I know, I know, I know,
(18:18):
but there, I mean, they were absolutely like like part
There were parts of it and I understand them doing it,
but you did kind of go like you know, it
was it was a little much, but they Milania was smiling.
I don't know if her I don't know what happened,
but she looked at she was having a hell of
a time over there.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Oh I'm sure she got paid extra to go over
there and do all there with her right A and
b Let me just say about Milanya, Milanya Trump our
first lady. She looks funny. She always looks stunning, though,
I must give it to her, she always looked. She's
always well put together. I'm gonna say that. And y'all
can hate on Milanya all y'all won't, But how many
other people y'all know it? From being male order to
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first lady of the of the greatest country in the world.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Supposedly, she's always she's all. It's definitely is. But she's all.
I mean, but we got problems. She she's always put together.
That said, I have to say, now it's funny. I
don't look at I'm gonna call her old horse face
because I don't even like giving her a name. But
you know who I'm talking about, the Queen Consort. We'll
just call her that.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
She.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I always think of Kate as the next because she's
the next one on the way. She was stunning Kate
with the crown, the whole bit, and I was thinking
she must be sitting there saying, where's my Tiara.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I don't you're speaking about Camilla.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yes, that's so, I don't. She didn't look probably as
good as Milania, but Kate was definitely she looked like
better than what Milania's gone was well, jewels are good.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
And in her defense, you know she about three hundred
years old, you know, Camilla about three.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
She looks like she was a chicken, put out, put up,
put into the oven, and they forgot to flip her
like the front.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Of hers she got too much son or something, and
that Charles have been in love, madly passing me in
love with this end of the day.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
So who Diana. Yeah, she's crazy about her, so I
mean she makes them happy. So I can't say that.
I just know one she was a cheater, knowing how
badly bad she treated because we're old enough, even though
we were like young teens, we remember how miserable she
was to Diana and how miserable she made her life.
And I just can't forget. You know, get divorced. Both
(20:29):
of you get divorced. Don't pull all these nonsensical games anyway,
So I'm over that. Camilla did not look great. Kate
looked stunning, and she she said, I would have loved
to have see what the conversation was besides between President
Trump and Kate Middleton. That must have been interesting. He
said they're terrific people, really good, so he gave them
(20:53):
his big accolades. I don't know what was actually accomplished.
I hope there was something that was accomplished. This is
the second steak dinner. Usually a country gets won. He
got it the first term, and now he's getting it again.
He made the same mistake both times. I was a
little disappointed because this is embarrassing. So there were protocols
with the King and the Queen and you and I
(21:13):
talked about this. I think the first season that I
was on when with it was probably when Elizabeth died.
Queen Elizabeth died. He he was there just before they
were walking across the I think the Buckingham Palace the grounds,
and he stepped in front of her. You never do
that in England. You never stepped in front of the Queen.
It doesn't happen. Oblivious just walked and not to mention,
(21:35):
she was ninety three, you know, and he's in his
mid seventies. It cuts her right off. He did the
same thing to King Charles, stood right in front of
him in his own country. And I'm like, I don't know,
you don't purpose, so.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I don't think that was unintentional. That is a power move.
That is a power move.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Interesting, That's what that was. The next thing I was.
That's the next thing I was going to say to you,
because in his the first time mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I'm I'm just glad that it was a white tie
affair and he wore a white tie, because you know,
he'll put a red tie on and don't give a damn.
So at least he did respectful in that in that capacity,
but I think, first of all, Kate Middleton is a beauty,
and she carries herself with such an air of class
and dignity. I think all worlds should should carry themselves,
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and she really carries herself and not above very Diana
to me, Yeah, she was very Diana. Diana was for
the people. Diana was for the people, and Kate Middleton
is definitely for the people. And I love how beautiful
her children are. They sing so well behaved in mind
you they're royalty, but they're still keyds, so you know
they act up and I wanted to do the royal
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kids get an ass whooping.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You think, yeah, so I told you this before when
my when my mother, she never hit us in public,
but you got to look and she would ball a
fist up and put it down by her right side
so you could see it, and you got the look
like when you got home, you were getting it, like
it was the warning. First. If she had to do
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it twice, your ass was grassed. I have seen Kate Middleton.
I haven't seen the balls up fist, but I have
seen that little one is full of beans, piss and vinega,
the the little boy George. I have seen her turn
to him and lovingly at first, and then when she
has to look that second look. I've seen the side
eye that we all get from parents, So I think
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she I think they're raised very much like Diana tried
tried to raise her kids. She didn't want too much privilege.
She wanted them to go to public or or you know,
more reasonable schools or preschools and stuff. So they had
friends and they were doing normal things, like she had
them at Disney and you know, all this sort of
normal stuff. And I think that Kate and her husband
are doing the same thing. I think they're trying to
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keep the kids is grounded. When you're going to be
the king, it's pretty hard to keep your ground. But
I think she's trying to keep them as grounded as
she possibly can and not make any of them are
more important. Diana always always had both Harry and Well.
They were treated the same. She wasn't. She didn't you
have any preference that you could see, and I clearly
one was despair. And I think it's great what she's doing.
(24:16):
So anyway, Yeah, but that was, oh my god, the
red car. I kind of imagine the money that was
spent on that.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
We're clearly from laughing Learne from us here, me and Bobby,
we want to just say mad respect to King Charles
and to all the dignitaries over in England for yeah,
being royal, for holding the heights of stained clients that office.
Because if you can see what's happening over here, class
(24:44):
has been out for since twenty sixteen. The class is gone.
Anybody's been left the class. They took the desk, they
knocked out the windows, they broke in. Oh that's January sixth.
And on that note, we're going to take a break.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Even when they're unhappy, they handles things and you know
what it is, it's decorum forget even classic to korum
go together, but this decorum. Did you see cash Pattel
at the at the hearings this week. I never saw
something that was a big a mess. He didn't want
to answer anything, and then he started arguing, you don't
do that. They ask you a question, you answer it.
(25:19):
If you have to claim the fifth or whatever it is,
you do it. You don't start saying, oh yeah, say
the ABC's, do you want me to spell the A,
B c's. He was out of control. He is so
not He does not have the personality and the temperament
for that for that position. Even if he had the skill,
which I don't believe he does, he is just not
set up for that. It was embarrassing. It was absolutely embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I wasn't embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
What did you say?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I know you, I saw it all. I was embarrassed
for our country that we allowed Trump to put like
you just say, he don't have the temperament for it.
He doesn't have the qualify vocations for that position. He
was never a part of the CIA. He was a
podcast ster and a damn sports better. Nobody is talking
(26:09):
about that. He bet on sports. That was part of
his living, which is why he lives in Vegas. Hear
me what I tell you. And he's been manipulating the
FBI using the jet plane. They called him out for
personal trips and just listen, Bobby, he was appointed to
this position. He was Pambindy was Christyinan was so many
(26:29):
of them were put in these positions just because they
kissed the ring, but with no qualification. R FK JR.
Which now is looking real sketchy and crazy. They're trying
to cancel vaccines. I've never been anti vaccine. I was
anti that covid shit, But I've never been an anti vaccine.
I'm with I had children when they were small, other
kids were vac who did not get vaccinated, will bring
(26:51):
diseases to the school, and understand that kids' bodies are
stronger than our bodies, so their immune system seems to
be a little stronger than ours. They would shake some
shit off. We won't.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
We won't, and the teachers and whatnot, and we don't know.
So we had our You and I had were vaccinated
a long time ago. And what happens is you had
the vaccinations because you want the herd immunity. We had it.
We eradicated all those diseases from the United States, But
if they come back, I don't know if our old
nineteen seventy whatever vaccines they're going to hold up. And
(27:24):
I want to clarify something you said, because you're not
You're you're a big fat fibber. You weren't anti covid
vaccine for you, you were anti covid vaccine. You weren't comfortable.
You never told anybody not to get it. That that
yeah for you, only for you, so and I never see.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
It because yeah, yeah, because it's not you said if
you want to have it and you need it, because
that's medicine.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
As you're trying to develop something and you have to
develop it quickly. You're literally throwing spaghetti on the wall
and see what steps and then you're going to the
next thing and the next thing. So but I never
out of your mouth since twenty twenty, when all this
has gone on, ever heard you say don't get the vaccine.
You're anti. You just weren't comfortable for you and your situation.
(28:14):
So I just want to make sure everybody is clear
on that.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
We can move off that.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Thank you, Rob. And to be very clear, I tried
to talk a lot of my friends that took the
vaccine I don't have taken of it, not to take
it before they I tried to convince them to just
wait to see what the aftermath was. But the way
that the information was coming with us and had so
many people afraid, we were all afraid. I didn't take it,
but I was still afraid. I very know that. So yeah,
(28:40):
thank you, by a clearefu man. Okay, moving on to
the next.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Oh, Pennsylvania, let's go to the book. I hate it.
I can't even believe where where we're at. You okay, yeah,
I shall, I don't think, Yeah, I know, I know. Still,
you know what, maybe if you're done with that zpak,
you might need another one, honey, like a ten day job,
not just a five day one. So the Matthew Ruth
(29:11):
was stocking an ex girlfriend. He broke into her home.
I don't know if the home is with her mother.
He killed her, black lab laid in wait. The police
came first. I don't know. I don't know if you
know this part of the story. I don't know how
the police were informed, whether the girlfriend started or a
neighbors are I'm breaking in. Five policemen went in to
(29:32):
take hold of him. It was a domestic call, like
so they this was a call they did not think
was going to be, you know, anything huge. Three police murdered,
two critically injured, and they one of the police officers.
They haven't gotten they haven't given us this information that
I can see yet, killed the Matthew Ruth, the shooter.
(29:55):
And here we are again. And you know, this guy's
if he's a stocker, he's mentally ill. You know, he's
got to have some issues. We're back to background checks. Like,
I feel like we're just talking about it again.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
So let me guess about when it's a domestic. When
it's a domestic call to the police officer. I used
to date the police officer, and he told me that
those are the scariest calls that they get because you
can never understand the emotion behind the domestic. You'll come
into something that you think is just a slap and
(30:30):
get but the woman. Sometimes the woman will defend the man,
even after he has beaten her. Sometimes the man will
defend the woman because women. There's abuse on both sides.
Women abuse me in as well. But they just said
that the domestic calls are the ones that are the
most unsure because you never know the outcome because the
emotion is all over the place, and bring the post
(30:53):
leasey and just heightens it sometimes. But yeah, maybe she
had a ring camera or something, so maybe that's how
she was able to see that he broke in and killed.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh I didn't even he was a stalker.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Do not like them. I like them they catch a
lot of Yeah, you're exactly right. I didn't even think
of that. See how you're so super smart as we'd
say in Boston, a wicked smart I didn't even think
of that, But to have five went down. Shapiro went
down and said, this is the biggest is to have
five policemen shot in the day is awful, awful, awful, awful.
(31:35):
And I just feel like this brings us.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
To it brings us back to.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Can you just gunning them down? I mean they must
have been climbing the stairs and he was just picking.
That's all I can figure. Like they were totally taken
off guard. I don't think they went in thinking this
is what was this was what was going to happen. Yeah,
So our hearts go out to the other two policemen.
I hope they're both critically injured. I hope that they
pull through and that they're okay. And we just just
(32:09):
had and this will lead us into the fan the flame.
We just had the Charlie Kirk shooting last week.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Right, So have you seen a picture of the shooter
from Philadelphia yet?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I haven't. What's he look like?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That lets you know that he's not black? He's not black? Oh, Oh,
I gotta tell you, hold on, I haven't seen the
picture of him yet, but I'm saying this out of
experience as a black person in America. Had he been black,
his picture would have been blasted over the media already.
This is why I'm saying he's not black. I'm not
(32:42):
saying that he's white, but he's definitely not black.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Okay, Bobby continues, Yeah, yeah, I'm guessing he's white. But
also well, I would say that, and they're also say
depending on the shooting, because I will say, for the
Charlie Kirk kid that got that shot, that was white,
they had his picture up in the blink of an
eye because he's crazy, but he just got you know,
we just had that shooting last week. It's shooting, so
(33:05):
I'm agreeing with you. But I said, sometimes they can
get it up quickly. I haven't seen it. I haven't
seen the Matthew Ruth. I'm assuming he's white too. Just
a name. It doesn't sound yeah, well, hold on sound.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I wondered if he related to Dylan Ruth who went
in the church and shut up all of those black people,
those name black people and killed them after they prayed
for him. By the way, the judge that felt compassion
for Dylan Ruth's family after he killed assassinated nine people
in the church just got caught on child pedophile file charges.
They took his phone and he had infants babies being
(33:44):
having sex with and he got off on that. Remind you.
After Dylan Ruth was caught, he said that he feels
compassionate for Dylan Ruth's family because of what they had
to go through, not all the innocent nine black people
that were killed in their families. So to the judge,
I hope when you get in the in the in
the in the jail, that they pull your black robe
up and found out how much judging you've been doing,
(34:06):
because I hope they split you from ear to ear.
That's my That's that's my words.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Okay, but I'm sure I can I haven't. I haven't
heard that. I haven't heard that sentiment. I can say this.
If he had, if he said that they had compassion
for all of those families as well as Dylan Ruth.
Is what you said his name was, I can understand
it because there if they don't agree with him at
(34:31):
all and don't have the ideology, their lives have been
ripped apart too. They have a family member that when assassinated.
All of those people, like I think, I can have
compassion that way. Do I feel more for them over
the others, Not at all. But I can see where
their lives have been destroyed as well, because all of
this stuff, it destroys the whole family, It destroys a community.
(34:52):
But I don't know anything. Oh my god, did did
he have did you did he actually do the molesting
or he had the materials on his computer and stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
He was changing allegedly. Allegedly, according to the reports in
the media, he was paying a black market overseas for
people to send him videos of them having sex with children.
And when I say children, I'm talking they said infants
as well as toddlers. Now it's one having except for
(35:23):
a kids seven, eight, nine, ten years old is bad.
But these were babies. And he was sitting in a
position of power to change people. If they changed his life.
They've taken him off the bar already. They've taken him
off they've taken him off the bench already, and he
is They found criminal charges. I don't know whether he's
in jail, but he should go to jail for that.
But hear me when I tell you, these people in
(35:44):
positions of power like that, the judges, police officers, people
in the administration have the power to change people's lives
for the better or for the worst when they are
living the worst lives on the other side. Let's on
the other side. Let's get into let's get into fan
the flame, Bobby, let's go. You said it up, Bobby,
set it up.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Oh, it makes me so sad. I can't I can't
even I can't even speak to it. So we we
we know that Jimmy Kimmel has been pulled by ABC.
So where we are going to say that not by
the government, but by ABC his show indefinitely because of
(36:23):
a comment. And I'm going to actually I don't like
reading the quotes, but I'm going to read the quote
because I have to say. I feel like Mickey the Dunce.
I don't understand what was offensive about this. Brendan Carr,
who is the FCC chair, made a statement, and I
did hear on several different occasions the Supreme Court say
that of a department or a government in power makes
(36:48):
a threat, that's that's not appropriate either. So we'll see
if they get involved in any of those. He made
a comment about ABC, and I I guess is it
is it next door? Which is like the parent company
raining in Jimmy over the statement that we're going to read.
(37:11):
And I want to point out that this is one
of those positions that we were just discussing earlier that
was appointed where a Brendan Carr kissed the ring and
he is he is very loyal to Trump, and he
doesn't like how Jimmy Kimmel treats Trump. And so he
said at the Charlie Kirk first, when there was when
(37:33):
Charlie was assassinated, he came out with I believe it
was an x an ex posting, and he said, with
all these terrible things happening, you would think that our
president would at least make an attempt to bring together.
I'll bring us together. Excuse me, I apologize, I'm reading
the wrong quote, the wrong post, he said. Excuse me, everybody.
He said, instead of the angry finger pointing, can we
(37:56):
just for one day agree that it's horrible and monstrous
to shoot another human on behalf of my family. We
send love to the Kirks, to all of the children,
the parents, and all the innocents who fall victim to
this senseless gun violence. So to me, he was denouncing it.
And then he said on Monday. Over the weekend, he said,
We've had some new lows with Mega the Mega Gang
(38:18):
desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk
as anything other than one of them, and with everything
they can to score political points from it. Now I
have to say to you, I don't understand, because I
think it's true they are. Now I'm also going to
point this in. He also could have put extended that
last line as well as the Democrats. We don't want
(38:42):
this nut, and they don't want they don't want this nut,
and so because of that, they feel that that is
hateful speech and they're pulling the show. And then the
second quote was these terrible things that are happening. You
think the president will bring us together, but he didn't.
President Obama did, Biden did Bush, and Clinton did. President
(39:03):
Trump did not. Instead, he blamed the Democrats for their
rhetoric as well as Musk said that the Democrats are
the are the party of murder. Nancy Mace, before we
even knew who the kid was that that shot him,
we're denouncing the I mean I I saw her in
an interview denouncing the Democrats, and I'm thinking did I
miss something? Did we did they? Did they catch who
(39:24):
the kid was? There have been too many of them.
We have to we have to get off of this
rhetoric and we have to tone down the social media.
But I have to tell your flame, I don't see
what that was offensive this comment.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
You give me a setup, not the whole story anyway.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I'm sorry. I just I can't imagine anybody asked about it. So,
but if you hadn't, I want you to know.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Okay, So here we go. So Jimmy Cammel only played
back the video when the media corner Donald Trump on
the White House lawn and asked him two days later,
how did he feel about the death of his friend Kirk.
Of Charlie Kirk, you know how the house heads of
the effect that you see to be holding up pretty well?
(40:16):
He said, oh yeah, I am. And by the way,
have you seen all of the construction and the equipment
and everything over here. It was so dismissive, and it
was it's just what he has done to his base.
He got what he needed from them, and then he
has dismissed him. He got what he needed out of
Charlie Kirk, and then he has dismissed him. So Jimmy
Kimmel replayed the video his video Trump said the words,
(40:39):
and they went crazy. They got so offended, so bar baric,
so angry, and people have been losing their job though
having comments about Charlie Kirk anything negative. Charlie Kirk spread
the vision decisive and decisiveness. He spreaded misogyny, he spreaded racism,
and hey, he was I'm not going to say that
he wasn't a good person. According to him, he loved
(41:00):
whatever Christian nationalisms he was. He loved being the Christian
in that capacity. Because any Bible, to me, whether it's
a Christian Bible, King James version, Karan Alah, whatever the
scripture is, God is love, So whoever you pray to
should be spreading love. He was not spreading love. He
was spreading the vision. And they had a fear, they
(41:22):
and a meltdown. But I knew this was coming by
me after they got rid of Stephen Kobert. I didn't
think that they would come after Jimmy fallon this soon.
I didn't think they were doing back to back like this.
I thought it was going to take some time. But
if they silenced all of our powerhouse. Yeah, I'm going
(41:43):
to say, Kimmel, if they silenced all of our powerful
media that spreads the truth or at least pushes back
against what they see that they don't think is right,
all we're going to have to believe is the rhetoric
that they put out because they're only going to put
people in positions that will say what they want them
to say. Or you face the you face the chopping block,
(42:06):
which is not freedom of speech in America, which is
not a part of the Amendment, which is what is
at the Second Amendment, freedom of speech. We won't have that.
We won't have anything. And he is taking, taking, taking
and putting us in positions of power the first Amendment.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, in free press.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
I don't want my freedom, you know, I don't want
my freedom of speech face spoken, because I'm going to
say what I want to say. But here's the thing.
And then what has scared me the most about watching
how he been He's been able to dismantle these powerful
white men in America because these those were powerful white
men living as a person of trans experience in America.
(42:48):
So this is the three things that scared the hell
out of me. First of all, the hate is coming
from the top. Second of all, and now they're trying
to use anytime there's a shooting, they're trying to intertwine
trans in that some kind of way to make it
look like the trans people are the killers and they're
killing the right wing. Yeah. Thirdly, he has wants to
sign a bill to say that trans people can't carry weapons.
(43:09):
So to be clear, you want to say that transmula
mentally ill. So we're crazy, we're killers, and now we
can't help weapons to defend ourselves because you didn't told
your base that we're crazy and were killed. So were
walking down the street with the bulls on our back.
Let me explain to you very clearly, I would rather
be cot dead with it than alive without it. Know that? Okay,
(43:31):
come on, bob it.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
No, I agree. You Know what I found really interesting
was Katie Kirk put out put out an article today.
In it she had a study and she said there
was a twenty twenty four report for the National Institute
of Justice and it was from the time of nineteen
ninety forward there were about political violence and there were
two hundred and twenty seven attacks and that claims the
(43:57):
lives of more than five hundred and twenty people, and
she said, the only, oh, excuse me, only forty two
of those attacks or of those murders whereby the left
and the rest were all on the extreme right side.
All of a sudden, that was a posted study, and
(44:17):
all of a sudden, the study, the study is now
missing from the Justice Department's website as of nine thirteen,
just three days after Kirk's assassination, and all of a sudden,
it's been archived, and now the GoJ they haven't explained
the removal, but they said they're reviewing its websites. They
want to make sure they were in accordance with the
recent executive orders. So that's showing that it's not necessarily
(44:40):
the democratic side, but to be, you know, to play
both sides. There's too much violence, and there's too much
hate talk, and there's too much finger pointing. All of
us on both sides need to do a little bit better.
But we need the conversations, We need the other side
to both sides to be willing to speak to each other.
I'm so sick of hearing who's horrible, who's this, who's that.
(45:04):
The other thing we want to remember in this specific
case is what is Jimmy Kimmel. Isn't he a stand
up comic. He's a comedian. That's his job. I remember
Joe Biden saying this is probably live in the past
five years, and I won't get it. Political satires would
hold the politicians accountable by the comedians. It's just their
opinion and it's meant to make us laugh or think
(45:25):
or spark conversation. I know I'm not getting that completely correct,
but I think this is this is a little ridiculous,
and this is all over as we started this, by that,
by that big conglomeration trying to buy the both sides
of the media companies. It's a six point two billion
dollar deal, so it's all it's all over money. You know,
(45:48):
they should be backing their ABC should be saying no,
and they should be standing by their employee. And I'm
backing him. And I'm a little disappointed that, you know,
everybody's folding. You know, all these channels are folding, So
I will. And I'm sure they're thrilled because it'll be
my thirty five dollars that I'm getting rid of my Hulu,
I'm getting rid of my Disney, I'm getting rid of
(46:10):
anything that belongs with them, and I think that stinks.
And I think the cancel culture stinks too. I mean,
the big thing that that Trump ran on was he
was getting rid of cancel culture and he was going
to back freedom of speech. This is a tough one
because private companies don't have to follow freedom is freedom
(46:31):
of speech. They can just kind of do anything. I
saw that. I don't know if you saw this as well.
Ben and Jerry's one of the co founders, Jerry Greenfield
actually stepped down. They had sold the company to a
British owner. I think it was its Unilever or something,
but you know, they were figureheads and they don't want
him to stand up for values of justice, equity or
(46:53):
shared humanity. So he is stepping down. And I think
this is where we're going. If you want to speak
truth to power, you can't hold your job any longer.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Listen, we are definitely the cage has not been rattled.
The cage is crumbling. The cage is crumbling right in
front of our eyes. If we don't do something, we're
going to lose everything. Y'all worried about the democracy, We
are going to lose any right that we have. Everything
will be state run and then run by the federal government.
You won't have the power to go to the grocery
(47:22):
store to pick out what you want. You won't have
the power to get the clothes that you want. You
will have no freedom and no liberties if we don't
do something to flip this over right now, because it
is like a steamroller even though they're blocking some of
these deals. A lot of time, when it's the drama
going on in the world and we're so distracted with
an assassination or with a school shooting, that is when
(47:44):
they go in and they play, they make their chest
moves because we're all focused on what is happening at
that moment in the country. So when we're all looking
over here, they over there doing something else. Very scary,
it's very sketch. And I'm telling you right, we're in
for a roller coaster rat and we have no strategize
(48:05):
and you got the hold on tight, buckle down and
fight back. I'm telling you, with everything that you have,
come on, Bobby, where were going?
Speaker 1 (48:14):
I don't think I'm trying today. We already talked about
the vaccines. I think that's explain. We can talk about
where you're going and what you're doing, honey.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Hi am going to Virginia Beach, Virginia at the Funny
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I will be in Lips, Atlanta for my Green Party.
Get your tickets at even Bright and if you want
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(48:41):
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Speaker 1 (49:03):
You can follow me on Instagram. I am Clifford Bobby.
I am also Laughing Learn podcast. Please send fan the
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just Bobby Clifford. How about you.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
I am on all social media platforms just Flame Monroe
except for Instagram. I'm Monroe Flame. Before we leave, I
have to say this because I just got the alert
on my phone, Bobby. Data analysis shows that Mega obsessively
consumes transporn. More Mega people wants trans porn than anybody else. Okay,
(49:37):
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As your mind and your vote are a terrible thing
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Speaker 4 (00:57):
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what ain't Flame Monroe also known as Moroe Flame, come
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you better catch it when you can drop a knowledge
from fatherhood to politics.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Shouting now comics, just paying homage. What's up tips?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah you know she raised shot town zone speaking to
the grown a second. We're gonna last come up and
kick it in. At the end, we leave it with
just a lifted spirits speak. You want to revisit so
your friends take a listen, young folks say it's lip
Oh folks that we dig it good?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Hey, do this do what you do? Can't know this?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Do what you do? Can't no this?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Do what I do?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
No this.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We go we Flame.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Hey. Hey, this is comedian Flame Monroe and welcome to
this week's episode of Blast to Learn. Listen, we got
a lot to cover today. I'm gonna get it. We're
gonna jump into it. But before I go any further,
I have to bring on my delicious hoes. That's my
word for today. Delicious, Oh herself, Miss Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
How you hi? You tuts delicious? I'm thinking that's not
because I'm too fatty or anything. Is it extra flavoring?
But I take dazzling.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
M h. I gave you delicious. Delicious is my word
for today.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Oh okay, and you could be scrumptious.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I'm always scrumptious. I got plenty of people to back
that up too.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Do you know anything?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I am? Well? We will be talking about how I am?
I am well?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
We all talking about America right now. I'm just talking
about you.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
No, I know, but it's it's I've got. I've gotta
be quite honest. I don't know if it's the so
many months of still being unemployed, what's going on in
the country, but I feel like a case of the
blue coming on, and I am so disgusted with what's
going on, which we're going to get into everything that
I am. I can't say I usually am chirpy, I'm Okay,
(03:08):
I'm going to get through it. We're all going to
get through it. But I'm I'm feeling a little bluish.
How about you?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I as a as a trans person living in America,
as a black person living in America, as a comedian
living in America. Right now, every day I wake up,
I don't know what to expect, and I hate waking
up like that. You don't know what you're going to
turn on your TV and you just don't know what
(03:34):
barbaric statement will come from the administration, from the government,
from people in those physicians, between the last and the
deception and the separation and the division and hate. I'm
telling you, Bobby, every day I'm just like, you know what.
I thank God that I woke up, But what have
I woke up to? What have I woke up to?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
No? I agree, And so part of me is, as
I said, it's given me the blues. But the other
part to me is I keep saying, well, do then
do something. You know, I know I'm one little person,
and well I'm not a little person, but one person.
And you don't feel like you have enough power. You
can do stuff, but you can do stuff in the
small ways and I have to, you know, continue to
(04:16):
sort of stand in my truth and say, all right,
I'm not shopping at these places if I don't believe
in their ideology, I'm not. We will get to what
is going on with ABC, but I need to get
rid of Hulu, my in the Disney Channel and all
of that jazz. I have to start standing in my convictions,
getting them with my vote and getting them with my purse.
(04:37):
And that's what I can do, and trying to be
involved as much as I possibly can. But it is
it's very this week. I feel very discouraged.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and we have reasons, sense, you have
reasons to discouraged. The jobs marketing is crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Right, No, No, it's not.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
No.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Members are so stupid, They're so bad.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
And you have to do what you have to explain
to the audience that you are being sarcastic because some
people may not know that.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh yeah, unemployed six months, everybody, I got a March tenth.
I've been unemployed and trying to find a job. I
had a flurry of activity at the beginning when I
for was first unemployed, had a bunch of interviews, did well,
they ended up hiring in the jobs I had from within,
which I get I would hire full within as well, sad,
(05:30):
but and then nothing because of the summer. And now things,
thank god, thank you Jesus, are picking up again now
because summer is over and whatnot. But something's happening because
the Fed lowered the interest rate, and you know, Powell
didn't want to do that, but he is so nervous
over the poor jobs numbers, and he doesn't want inflation
(05:51):
to get worse or kind of kick in, and he
definitely doesn't want a recession. So we loaded by a
quarter this week and supposedly, and he just because he
doesn't want to do too much at once. And then
I am not a numbers person, trust me. If you
looked at my bank account, I'm always in a negative.
He said he's going to lower it probably two more
times this year to try to stay ahead. And of
(06:11):
course the markets and everything went crazy and all that jazz.
They're sort of leveling out a little bit now. But
if we had good jobs numbers and there was nothing
to worry about. The tariffs, believe it or not, so
far aren't being as catastrophic as they thought, killing our relationships,
but not as catastrophic with the economy yet, and I
think he is. He's got a tough he's got a
(06:34):
tough balancing act. You know, he's like the juggler at
the Barnum and Bailey Circus. He's trying to put in
the air.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So what you just said about the terriffs, they haven't
kicked being as of yet, but they are coming and
well some of them have and they have. Barber by
the way, seventy five more than seventy five containers fell
off for both here last week. I think we talked
about that.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I know what we did.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
A lot of those they still have not retrieved. They're
still in the water, which is going to do damage
to the to the to the fish. And yeah, it's
just it's just beyond it's beyond crazy. So we're hoping
that these terrors don't come in so hot and heavy.
But I do love the fact that Amazon is about
(07:19):
to list listing on there. When you order something, they're
going to tell you exactly how much your extra your
terrorists adds to your bill. So Whatevegels is doing and
showing you why it's going up. But does that mean
that we're going to stop it or cancel it? No,
I listen, boycotted Amazon for quite some time after the
election and being realized, you know what, I'm sorry I did.
(07:44):
I didn't realize I don't want to go to the
store and grab this. I don't want to go looking
for that. It just so and so I want you
to know I'm not free. And I know some of
you guys have did the same thing. I'm a meeting,
but I did that. I made a mistake. Some of
you'll mistakes. Was you voted wrong. We can't take that back.
That would we stuck with that ship right now. But
I have done that. Boy it because it is convenient
(08:07):
a B. It's just it's easier. You know, I'm not
twenty five anymore. I can't just ramble to run to
the store and pick up a fifty inch flat screen
and run back home. And when I can just turn
over and order it off the phone, and I know
what's coming, and if it's damage and broken, I can
recind it back. I hate that Jeff Bezos is with
the D I think, but you know Amazon is. I'm
(08:29):
not defending Amazon. I'm just talking about my situation. But anyway,
I get it. We're going to go on a little further.
We're going to talk about the death of a legend
of a beautiful Oh my god, Robert Redford was such beautiful.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You just said it. That was the when I think
of him. I don't know if you get prettier. Paul Newan,
he and Paul Newman, I don't know if you get prettier.
They were showing really old like when he was in
his twenties. My god, I don't know if I peed
my pants or am I just my pants got wet
and being so excited. But he would.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Beautiful and I never remember any time that he was
ever caught up in any kind of celebrity scandal or anything.
He was a a preservist, He loves people. He was
a humanitarian. He cared about this his fellow man. He
cared about the environment. He made exquisite movies. I'm talking
(09:22):
about classics that will go on for generations and generations, generations.
And he was a good looking man. Oh my god,
I know, Barbara Strys said when she kissed him in
the way we were, I know when they was making
that movie, she gave him something. I know. She comes
as Barbara Man. Have you read Barbara's book, BARBARAA smash
had the States princess. Ye oh yet now, but when
(09:45):
before Barbara got married, Barbara said, bring it on, but
don't don't rain on my parade. Barbara was passing out
like Christmas couldn't all ba.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well, she was out. She was out during the hipp
even movement. Let's remember, you know she's just about eighty
or like seventies eighty, right, so she was in that
free love and a women's empowerment.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, and I'm not saying at the throw Barbera under
the bus when I tell you I am such a
Barbara streichs saying, oh my god, you have no idea.
My mama looked like us. But yeah, I know barble
because he was such a pretty man, like how could you?
And then they had kissing things and everything, and he
sings in me, and I'm like, girl, you know you
let him slide it in, let him you let him
seek the heating. Y'all know that line. We all know
(10:26):
that line, just let me seek the heat.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Do you remember the movie Oh my god, I'm blanking.
It was the big romantic movie and it was the
Hubbo was was Robert Redford's character and Barbara streuisia the
way we were and Barbara Streisian and I heard her
talk about it in an interview. It was just something
she did because she probably found him so attractive. She
kind of moved his hair over at the end, like
when they were moving. She was a spige activist and
(10:51):
he was like an attorney like so he wasn't and
he was more straight late and I just I thought
that was one of the most romantic gestures that I
could say. Yeah, and so he he really is. And
you never heard any bad about him. As you said
he moved off to Utah. I didn't realize that Sundance
was his that he also developed the film festival. Sundance
(11:12):
was his home, and he just he loved the environment
and he loved he wanted to be away from the
Hollywood culture and blah blah blah. He went off and
he and his wife and had a beautiful life. And
that's the way to do it. God loved bless him.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
And that that again, that that celebrity, that mystery of
his celebrity is what will keep him always alleged, a
lot of these celebrities have let people so in that
I know what you're doing when you're in the bathroom.
I know when you use room, you have let people
in so far into your person that you don't become
celebrity anymore. You just become not And it's not that
(11:49):
celebrity or above any people. But some things you are
just not supposed to know, whether you're celebrity or common
or shit. But yeah, I thought he was beautiful and
I did love him and Robert him and it wasn't
named said his damn name?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Uh Paul Newman. The kids, Oh my god, I am
having a I'm having an a podcast.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I got it. And the Sundance Kid where they jumped
off of the cliff. I did that, by the way,
last year in the Dominican Republic. It was as high
as that too. I thought that he was a beautiful man.
He was just a resting peace to Robert Redford. He
so many celebrities came out and spoke on his behalf
with such kind and these words you could tell were authentic.
So he had to be a good human because people
(12:31):
spoke so highly of him.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So big director too, he had his finger in all
of it. He did a movie not long ago. When
I say that long, I mean over the past.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Man, When you said that I bet you like it
for him to put his finger in Okay, come on,
what were you some guy?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
No, he was a little too old, a little too
old for me. But he did a movie. It was
within the past two years he he started it. It
was a movie about, Oh my god, what is the
big walk, the hike everybody does from Georgia up to Maine.
But I have a friend that just did it. I
literally finished last week, and I can't think of what
Appalation Trail. And it was about the journey of the
(13:10):
Appalation Trail and growing and meeting people and this whole
big thing that happened anyway. And he was doing it
as an older guy because he was in the seventies.
He was as sharp as attack. He delivered on the directing,
on the acting. I mean it was terrific. I mean,
he had it until the end. God bless him. May
we all live a life like Robert Redford.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Rest in peace. Robert Riverford from Laughing Len and Black
Effect Network. Okay, Bobby, let's move on down the line. Bobby,
so apparently we're all the TikTok drama. Let's start right there.
Trump has now allegedly acquired TikTok under America. So now
he's supposed to be trying to acquire TikTok, which means
(13:52):
that it will get censored if you say anything negative
towards his administration or him. And we are seeing that
every day. We will get to that on fan the Flames,
but we are seeing the dismantling of our of our
freedom and speech, freedom of speech, our media that had
any opposition on what is going on, you are being
taken out. It is. It is going to be completely
(14:14):
state run state We're on TV, state run news. They're
going to monitor what you watch, what you cannot watch,
what you can, what you will not be able to see,
what you will not be privy to, which will be
the truth always. It is about to get very sketchy.
And I don't even know what can be done, but
I'm telling you all right now, something has to be
(14:35):
done soon, and very soon, because we're gonna get to
a point where we can't go back. We're gonna get
to a breaking point where there's the point of no return.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, he doesn't surprise us. We've said this a million times.
What's surprising us is that he's he's bucking up against
our checks and balances, and they're not cracking down. The
Supreme Court has held him accountable on a few things,
but they haven't they haven't followed through, or they haven't
pushed the next level, like who follows through? It'll end
up going to the Supreme Court. A lot of this stuff.
(15:06):
And I hope that they're all constitutional scholars. I hoped
to God that they stick with what the constitution says.
But yeah, they're supposed to be. This big deal is
he's he's you know, rubbing toes with China. We'll see
if it actually happens, but it's continuing on. You know
what the next thing will be, you know, it's a
monetary thing. I wonder if the government will start taking
a piece of you know, of the moneies that you're making.
(15:29):
I know they do buy taxes, but in a different way.
I wonder if this will be a fee or something.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah. Well, yesterday Trump made his way to the UK.
He had a state he had a huge state dinner
with King Charles.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Oh my god, did.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
You see I saw the dinner. I saw Charles being
completely professional, being very statesman, very being very much a king.
And I also saw Trump, who was not disrespectful. But
he was reading that paperwork who wrote whoever wrote that
out like he had just witnessed it for the very
first time. He was even like he was in sixth grade.
I'm being very very honest. If you guys go look
(16:03):
at it. I'm not even being mean. I'm just being
fair and honest. And he just looked like he did
not belong there. Let me let me just say, he
just looked like he did not belong in that room
with those dignitaries. But they did roll out the red
carpet for him at the at the Buckingham Palace, but
not the British people. Oh honey.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
They went in, they boomed, they protested, they put pictures
of him and Epstein on the actual Buckingham Palace. They
put him, they did, They put a huge picture of
him and then on the yard.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
It is when I say that those Brits got the
balls and steel and I'm here forward, i am here
for it because the Americans or we could take a page,
we could take a page out their playbook.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Well that's where we came from. You gotta remember, you
know those that there is standing up and that and
that's why we broke away. From them because we thought
they were they were giving us too many rules.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Wait, wait a minute, we didn't come from there. I
was in the I was in the African jungle with
my grass in my nose, with my coconuts and my boobs.
Y'all came offer me a piece of pop ass chick
and I took it. Y'all caught me. I totally everybody
else and that we all stuck. It is Lewish.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh my god, you're so funny. My people didn't either.
If if I ever said to my Irish family that
we came from England, they would lose their shi t.
But the country, did you know? That's the strong you know,
guerrilla warfare type of type of acting is definitely coming
from the UK. But they I loved that you pointed
(17:34):
out about King Charles, because they are in the prime Minister.
They're in a slippery slope over there in Europe because
they want this shit shut down in Russia and Ukraine,
because they are right there. They're like, you know, it'd
be like you in Arizona, you know, like it's not
it's not far distance plam for a push of a button.
(17:56):
So they need his help and you know what he
loves more than anything is to be treated like like
he was the king. And they rolled it out that
it was so sick that they did a beautiful job. Uh.
They gave him everything that he likes. He likes to
be stroked. It was stroking. I know, I know, I know,
(18:18):
but there, I mean, they were absolutely like like part
There were parts of it and I understand them doing it,
but you did kind of go like you know, it
was it was a little much, but they Milania was smiling.
I don't know if her I don't know what happened,
but she looked at she was having a hell of
a time over there.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Oh I'm sure she got paid extra to go over
there and do all there with her right A and
b Let me just say about Milanya, Milanya Trump our
first lady. She looks funny. She always looks stunning, though,
I must give it to her, she always looked. She's
always well put together. I'm gonna say that. And y'all
can hate on Milanya all y'all won't, But how many
other people y'all know it? From being male order to
(18:54):
first lady of the of the greatest country in the world.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Supposedly, she's always she's all. It's definitely is. But she's all.
I mean, but we got problems. She she's always put together.
That said, I have to say, now it's funny. I
don't look at I'm gonna call her old horse face
because I don't even like giving her a name. But
you know who I'm talking about, the Queen Consort. We'll
just call her that.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
She.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I always think of Kate as the next because she's
the next one on the way. She was stunning Kate
with the crown, the whole bit, and I was thinking
she must be sitting there saying, where's my Tiara.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I don't you're speaking about Camilla.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yes, that's so, I don't. She didn't look probably as
good as Milania, but Kate was definitely she looked like
better than what Milania's gone was well, jewels are good.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
And in her defense, you know she about three hundred
years old, you know, Camilla about three.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
She looks like she was a chicken, put out, put up,
put into the oven, and they forgot to flip her
like the front.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Of hers she got too much son or something, and
that Charles have been in love, madly passing me in
love with this end of the day.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
So who Diana. Yeah, she's crazy about her, so I
mean she makes them happy. So I can't say that.
I just know one she was a cheater, knowing how
badly bad she treated because we're old enough, even though
we were like young teens, we remember how miserable she
was to Diana and how miserable she made her life.
And I just can't forget. You know, get divorced. Both
(20:29):
of you get divorced. Don't pull all these nonsensical games anyway,
So I'm over that. Camilla did not look great. Kate
looked stunning, and she she said, I would have loved
to have see what the conversation was besides between President
Trump and Kate Middleton. That must have been interesting. He
said they're terrific people, really good, so he gave them
(20:53):
his big accolades. I don't know what was actually accomplished.
I hope there was something that was accomplished. This is
the second steak dinner. Usually a country gets won. He
got it the first term, and now he's getting it again.
He made the same mistake both times. I was a
little disappointed because this is embarrassing. So there were protocols
with the King and the Queen and you and I
(21:13):
talked about this. I think the first season that I
was on when with it was probably when Elizabeth died.
Queen Elizabeth died. He he was there just before they
were walking across the I think the Buckingham Palace the grounds,
and he stepped in front of her. You never do
that in England. You never stepped in front of the Queen.
It doesn't happen. Oblivious just walked and not to mention,
(21:35):
she was ninety three, you know, and he's in his
mid seventies. It cuts her right off. He did the
same thing to King Charles, stood right in front of
him in his own country. And I'm like, I don't know,
you don't purpose, so.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I don't think that was unintentional. That is a power move.
That is a power move.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Interesting, That's what that was. The next thing I was.
That's the next thing I was going to say to you,
because in his the first time mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I'm I'm just glad that it was a white tie
affair and he wore a white tie, because you know,
he'll put a red tie on and don't give a damn.
So at least he did respectful in that in that capacity,
but I think, first of all, Kate Middleton is a beauty,
and she carries herself with such an air of class
and dignity. I think all worlds should should carry themselves,
(22:27):
and she really carries herself and not above very Diana
to me, Yeah, she was very Diana. Diana was for
the people. Diana was for the people, and Kate Middleton
is definitely for the people. And I love how beautiful
her children are. They sing so well behaved in mind
you they're royalty, but they're still keyds, so you know
they act up and I wanted to do the royal
(22:48):
kids get an ass whooping.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You think, yeah, so I told you this before when
my when my mother, she never hit us in public,
but you got to look and she would ball a
fist up and put it down by her right side
so you could see it, and you got the look
like when you got home, you were getting it, like
it was the warning. First. If she had to do
(23:12):
it twice, your ass was grassed. I have seen Kate Middleton.
I haven't seen the balls up fist, but I have
seen that little one is full of beans, piss and vinega,
the the little boy George. I have seen her turn
to him and lovingly at first, and then when she
has to look that second look. I've seen the side
eye that we all get from parents, So I think
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she I think they're raised very much like Diana tried
tried to raise her kids. She didn't want too much privilege.
She wanted them to go to public or or you know,
more reasonable schools or preschools and stuff. So they had
friends and they were doing normal things, like she had
them at Disney and you know, all this sort of
normal stuff. And I think that Kate and her husband
are doing the same thing. I think they're trying to
(23:55):
keep the kids is grounded. When you're going to be
the king, it's pretty hard to keep your ground. But
I think she's trying to keep them as grounded as
she possibly can and not make any of them are
more important. Diana always always had both Harry and Well.
They were treated the same. She wasn't. She didn't you
have any preference that you could see, and I clearly
one was despair. And I think it's great what she's doing.
(24:16):
So anyway, Yeah, but that was, oh my god, the
red car. I kind of imagine the money that was
spent on that.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
We're clearly from laughing Learne from us here, me and Bobby,
we want to just say mad respect to King Charles
and to all the dignitaries over in England for yeah,
being royal, for holding the heights of stained clients that office.
Because if you can see what's happening over here, class
(24:44):
has been out for since twenty sixteen. The class is gone.
Anybody's been left the class. They took the desk, they
knocked out the windows, they broke in. Oh that's January sixth.
And on that note, we're going to take a break.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Even when they're unhappy, they handles things and you know
what it is, it's decorum forget even classic to korum
go together, but this decorum. Did you see cash Pattel
at the at the hearings this week. I never saw
something that was a big a mess. He didn't want
to answer anything, and then he started arguing, you don't
do that. They ask you a question, you answer it.
(25:19):
If you have to claim the fifth or whatever it is,
you do it. You don't start saying, oh yeah, say
the ABC's, do you want me to spell the A,
B c's. He was out of control. He is so
not He does not have the personality and the temperament
for that for that position. Even if he had the skill,
which I don't believe he does, he is just not
set up for that. It was embarrassing. It was absolutely embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I wasn't embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
What did you say?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I know you, I saw it all. I was embarrassed
for our country that we allowed Trump to put like
you just say, he don't have the temperament for it.
He doesn't have the qualify vocations for that position. He
was never a part of the CIA. He was a
podcast ster and a damn sports better. Nobody is talking
(26:09):
about that. He bet on sports. That was part of
his living, which is why he lives in Vegas. Hear
me what I tell you. And he's been manipulating the
FBI using the jet plane. They called him out for
personal trips and just listen, Bobby, he was appointed to
this position. He was Pambindy was Christyinan was so many
(26:29):
of them were put in these positions just because they
kissed the ring, but with no qualification. R FK JR.
Which now is looking real sketchy and crazy. They're trying
to cancel vaccines. I've never been anti vaccine. I was
anti that covid shit, But I've never been an anti vaccine.
I'm with I had children when they were small, other
kids were vac who did not get vaccinated, will bring
(26:51):
diseases to the school, and understand that kids' bodies are
stronger than our bodies, so their immune system seems to
be a little stronger than ours. They would shake some
shit off. We won't.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
We won't, and the teachers and whatnot, and we don't know.
So we had our You and I had were vaccinated
a long time ago. And what happens is you had
the vaccinations because you want the herd immunity. We had it.
We eradicated all those diseases from the United States, But
if they come back, I don't know if our old
nineteen seventy whatever vaccines they're going to hold up. And
(27:24):
I want to clarify something you said, because you're not
You're you're a big fat fibber. You weren't anti covid
vaccine for you, you were anti covid vaccine. You weren't comfortable.
You never told anybody not to get it. That that
yeah for you, only for you, so and I never see.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
It because yeah, yeah, because it's not you said if
you want to have it and you need it, because
that's medicine.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
As you're trying to develop something and you have to
develop it quickly. You're literally throwing spaghetti on the wall
and see what steps and then you're going to the
next thing and the next thing. So but I never
out of your mouth since twenty twenty, when all this
has gone on, ever heard you say don't get the vaccine.
You're anti. You just weren't comfortable for you and your situation.
(28:14):
So I just want to make sure everybody is clear
on that.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
We can move off that.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Thank you, Rob. And to be very clear, I tried
to talk a lot of my friends that took the
vaccine I don't have taken of it, not to take
it before they I tried to convince them to just
wait to see what the aftermath was. But the way
that the information was coming with us and had so
many people afraid, we were all afraid. I didn't take it,
but I was still afraid. I very know that. So yeah,
(28:40):
thank you, by a clearefu man. Okay, moving on to
the next.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Oh, Pennsylvania, let's go to the book. I hate it.
I can't even believe where where we're at. You okay, yeah,
I shall, I don't think, Yeah, I know, I know. Still,
you know what, maybe if you're done with that zpak,
you might need another one, honey, like a ten day job,
not just a five day one. So the Matthew Ruth
(29:11):
was stocking an ex girlfriend. He broke into her home.
I don't know if the home is with her mother.
He killed her, black lab laid in wait. The police
came first. I don't know. I don't know if you
know this part of the story. I don't know how
the police were informed, whether the girlfriend started or a
neighbors are I'm breaking in. Five policemen went in to
(29:32):
take hold of him. It was a domestic call, like
so they this was a call they did not think
was going to be, you know, anything huge. Three police murdered,
two critically injured, and they one of the police officers.
They haven't gotten they haven't given us this information that
I can see yet, killed the Matthew Ruth, the shooter.
(29:55):
And here we are again. And you know, this guy's
if he's a stocker, he's mentally ill. You know, he's
got to have some issues. We're back to background checks. Like,
I feel like we're just talking about it again.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
So let me guess about when it's a domestic. When
it's a domestic call to the police officer. I used
to date the police officer, and he told me that
those are the scariest calls that they get because you
can never understand the emotion behind the domestic. You'll come
into something that you think is just a slap and
(30:30):
get but the woman. Sometimes the woman will defend the man,
even after he has beaten her. Sometimes the man will
defend the woman because women. There's abuse on both sides.
Women abuse me in as well. But they just said
that the domestic calls are the ones that are the
most unsure because you never know the outcome because the
emotion is all over the place, and bring the post
(30:53):
leasey and just heightens it sometimes. But yeah, maybe she
had a ring camera or something, so maybe that's how
she was able to see that he broke in and killed.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh I didn't even he was a stalker.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Do not like them. I like them they catch a
lot of Yeah, you're exactly right. I didn't even think
of that. See how you're so super smart as we'd
say in Boston, a wicked smart I didn't even think
of that, But to have five went down. Shapiro went
down and said, this is the biggest is to have
five policemen shot in the day is awful, awful, awful, awful.
(31:35):
And I just feel like this brings us.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
To it brings us back to.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Can you just gunning them down? I mean they must
have been climbing the stairs and he was just picking.
That's all I can figure. Like they were totally taken
off guard. I don't think they went in thinking this
is what was this was what was going to happen. Yeah,
So our hearts go out to the other two policemen.
I hope they're both critically injured. I hope that they
pull through and that they're okay. And we just just
(32:09):
had and this will lead us into the fan the flame.
We just had the Charlie Kirk shooting last week.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Right, So have you seen a picture of the shooter
from Philadelphia yet?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I haven't. What's he look like?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That lets you know that he's not black? He's not black? Oh, Oh,
I gotta tell you, hold on, I haven't seen the
picture of him yet, but I'm saying this out of
experience as a black person in America. Had he been black,
his picture would have been blasted over the media already.
This is why I'm saying he's not black. I'm not
(32:42):
saying that he's white, but he's definitely not black.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Okay, Bobby continues, Yeah, yeah, I'm guessing he's white. But
also well, I would say that, and they're also say
depending on the shooting, because I will say, for the
Charlie Kirk kid that got that shot, that was white,
they had his picture up in the blink of an
eye because he's crazy, but he just got you know,
we just had that shooting last week. It's shooting, so
(33:05):
I'm agreeing with you. But I said, sometimes they can
get it up quickly. I haven't seen it. I haven't
seen the Matthew Ruth. I'm assuming he's white too. Just
a name. It doesn't sound yeah, well, hold on sound.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I wondered if he related to Dylan Ruth who went
in the church and shut up all of those black people,
those name black people and killed them after they prayed
for him. By the way, the judge that felt compassion
for Dylan Ruth's family after he killed assassinated nine people
in the church just got caught on child pedophile file charges.
They took his phone and he had infants babies being
(33:44):
having sex with and he got off on that. Remind you.
After Dylan Ruth was caught, he said that he feels
compassionate for Dylan Ruth's family because of what they had
to go through, not all the innocent nine black people
that were killed in their families. So to the judge,
I hope when you get in the in the in
the in the jail, that they pull your black robe
up and found out how much judging you've been doing,
(34:06):
because I hope they split you from ear to ear.
That's my That's that's my words.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Okay, but I'm sure I can I haven't. I haven't
heard that. I haven't heard that sentiment. I can say this.
If he had, if he said that they had compassion
for all of those families as well as Dylan Ruth.
Is what you said his name was, I can understand
it because there if they don't agree with him at
(34:31):
all and don't have the ideology, their lives have been
ripped apart too. They have a family member that when assassinated.
All of those people, like I think, I can have
compassion that way. Do I feel more for them over
the others, Not at all. But I can see where
their lives have been destroyed as well, because all of
this stuff, it destroys the whole family, It destroys a community.
(34:52):
But I don't know anything. Oh my god, did did
he have did you did he actually do the molesting
or he had the materials on his computer and stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
He was changing allegedly. Allegedly, according to the reports in
the media, he was paying a black market overseas for
people to send him videos of them having sex with children.
And when I say children, I'm talking they said infants
as well as toddlers. Now it's one having except for
(35:23):
a kids seven, eight, nine, ten years old is bad.
But these were babies. And he was sitting in a
position of power to change people. If they changed his life.
They've taken him off the bar already. They've taken him
off they've taken him off the bench already, and he
is They found criminal charges. I don't know whether he's
in jail, but he should go to jail for that.
But hear me when I tell you, these people in
(35:44):
positions of power like that, the judges, police officers, people
in the administration have the power to change people's lives
for the better or for the worst when they are
living the worst lives on the other side. Let's on
the other side. Let's get into let's get into fan
the flame, Bobby, let's go. You said it up, Bobby,
set it up.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Oh, it makes me so sad. I can't I can't
even I can't even speak to it. So we we
we know that Jimmy Kimmel has been pulled by ABC.
So where we are going to say that not by
the government, but by ABC his show indefinitely because of
(36:23):
a comment. And I'm going to actually I don't like
reading the quotes, but I'm going to read the quote
because I have to say. I feel like Mickey the Dunce.
I don't understand what was offensive about this. Brendan Carr,
who is the FCC chair, made a statement, and I
did hear on several different occasions the Supreme Court say
that of a department or a government in power makes
(36:48):
a threat, that's that's not appropriate either. So we'll see
if they get involved in any of those. He made
a comment about ABC, and I I guess is it
is it next door? Which is like the parent company
raining in Jimmy over the statement that we're going to read.
(37:11):
And I want to point out that this is one
of those positions that we were just discussing earlier that
was appointed where a Brendan Carr kissed the ring and
he is he is very loyal to Trump, and he
doesn't like how Jimmy Kimmel treats Trump. And so he
said at the Charlie Kirk first, when there was when
(37:33):
Charlie was assassinated, he came out with I believe it
was an x an ex posting, and he said, with
all these terrible things happening, you would think that our
president would at least make an attempt to bring together.
I'll bring us together. Excuse me, I apologize, I'm reading
the wrong quote, the wrong post, he said. Excuse me, everybody.
He said, instead of the angry finger pointing, can we
(37:56):
just for one day agree that it's horrible and monstrous
to shoot another human on behalf of my family. We
send love to the Kirks, to all of the children,
the parents, and all the innocents who fall victim to
this senseless gun violence. So to me, he was denouncing it.
And then he said on Monday. Over the weekend, he said,
We've had some new lows with Mega the Mega Gang
(38:18):
desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk
as anything other than one of them, and with everything
they can to score political points from it. Now I
have to say to you, I don't understand, because I
think it's true they are. Now I'm also going to
point this in. He also could have put extended that
last line as well as the Democrats. We don't want
(38:42):
this nut, and they don't want they don't want this nut,
and so because of that, they feel that that is
hateful speech and they're pulling the show. And then the
second quote was these terrible things that are happening. You
think the president will bring us together, but he didn't.
President Obama did, Biden did Bush, and Clinton did. President
(39:03):
Trump did not. Instead, he blamed the Democrats for their
rhetoric as well as Musk said that the Democrats are
the are the party of murder. Nancy Mace, before we
even knew who the kid was that that shot him,
we're denouncing the I mean I I saw her in
an interview denouncing the Democrats, and I'm thinking did I
miss something? Did we did they? Did they catch who
(39:24):
the kid was? There have been too many of them.
We have to we have to get off of this
rhetoric and we have to tone down the social media.
But I have to tell your flame, I don't see
what that was offensive this comment.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
You give me a setup, not the whole story anyway.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I'm sorry. I just I can't imagine anybody asked about it. So,
but if you hadn't, I want you to know.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Okay, So here we go. So Jimmy Cammel only played
back the video when the media corner Donald Trump on
the White House lawn and asked him two days later,
how did he feel about the death of his friend Kirk.
Of Charlie Kirk, you know how the house heads of
the effect that you see to be holding up pretty well?
(40:16):
He said, oh yeah, I am. And by the way,
have you seen all of the construction and the equipment
and everything over here. It was so dismissive, and it
was it's just what he has done to his base.
He got what he needed from them, and then he
has dismissed him. He got what he needed out of
Charlie Kirk, and then he has dismissed him. So Jimmy
Kimmel replayed the video his video Trump said the words,
(40:39):
and they went crazy. They got so offended, so bar baric,
so angry, and people have been losing their job though
having comments about Charlie Kirk anything negative. Charlie Kirk spread
the vision decisive and decisiveness. He spreaded misogyny, he spreaded racism,
and hey, he was I'm not going to say that
he wasn't a good person. According to him, he loved
(41:00):
whatever Christian nationalisms he was. He loved being the Christian
in that capacity. Because any Bible, to me, whether it's
a Christian Bible, King James version, Karan Alah, whatever the
scripture is, God is love, So whoever you pray to
should be spreading love. He was not spreading love. He
was spreading the vision. And they had a fear, they
(41:22):
and a meltdown. But I knew this was coming by
me after they got rid of Stephen Kobert. I didn't
think that they would come after Jimmy fallon this soon.
I didn't think they were doing back to back like this.
I thought it was going to take some time. But
if they silenced all of our powerhouse. Yeah, I'm going
(41:43):
to say, Kimmel, if they silenced all of our powerful
media that spreads the truth or at least pushes back
against what they see that they don't think is right,
all we're going to have to believe is the rhetoric
that they put out because they're only going to put
people in positions that will say what they want them
to say. Or you face the you face the chopping block,
(42:06):
which is not freedom of speech in America, which is
not a part of the Amendment, which is what is
at the Second Amendment, freedom of speech. We won't have that.
We won't have anything. And he is taking, taking, taking
and putting us in positions of power the first Amendment.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, in free press.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
I don't want my freedom, you know, I don't want
my freedom of speech face spoken, because I'm going to
say what I want to say. But here's the thing.
And then what has scared me the most about watching
how he been He's been able to dismantle these powerful
white men in America because these those were powerful white
men living as a person of trans experience in America.
(42:48):
So this is the three things that scared the hell
out of me. First of all, the hate is coming
from the top. Second of all, and now they're trying
to use anytime there's a shooting, they're trying to intertwine
trans in that some kind of way to make it
look like the trans people are the killers and they're
killing the right wing. Yeah. Thirdly, he has wants to
sign a bill to say that trans people can't carry weapons.
(43:09):
So to be clear, you want to say that transmula
mentally ill. So we're crazy, we're killers, and now we
can't help weapons to defend ourselves because you didn't told
your base that we're crazy and were killed. So were
walking down the street with the bulls on our back.
Let me explain to you very clearly, I would rather
be cot dead with it than alive without it. Know that? Okay,
(43:31):
come on, bob it.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
No, I agree. You Know what I found really interesting
was Katie Kirk put out put out an article today.
In it she had a study and she said there
was a twenty twenty four report for the National Institute
of Justice and it was from the time of nineteen
ninety forward there were about political violence and there were
two hundred and twenty seven attacks and that claims the
(43:57):
lives of more than five hundred and twenty people, and
she said, the only, oh, excuse me, only forty two
of those attacks or of those murders whereby the left
and the rest were all on the extreme right side.
All of a sudden, that was a posted study, and
(44:17):
all of a sudden, the study, the study is now
missing from the Justice Department's website as of nine thirteen,
just three days after Kirk's assassination, and all of a sudden,
it's been archived, and now the GoJ they haven't explained
the removal, but they said they're reviewing its websites. They
want to make sure they were in accordance with the
recent executive orders. So that's showing that it's not necessarily
(44:40):
the democratic side, but to be, you know, to play
both sides. There's too much violence, and there's too much
hate talk, and there's too much finger pointing. All of
us on both sides need to do a little bit better.
But we need the conversations, We need the other side
to both sides to be willing to speak to each other.
I'm so sick of hearing who's horrible, who's this, who's that.
(45:04):
The other thing we want to remember in this specific
case is what is Jimmy Kimmel. Isn't he a stand
up comic. He's a comedian. That's his job. I remember
Joe Biden saying this is probably live in the past
five years, and I won't get it. Political satires would
hold the politicians accountable by the comedians. It's just their
opinion and it's meant to make us laugh or think
(45:25):
or spark conversation. I know I'm not getting that completely correct,
but I think this is this is a little ridiculous,
and this is all over as we started this, by that,
by that big conglomeration trying to buy the both sides
of the media companies. It's a six point two billion
dollar deal, so it's all it's all over money. You know,
(45:48):
they should be backing their ABC should be saying no,
and they should be standing by their employee. And I'm
backing him. And I'm a little disappointed that, you know,
everybody's folding. You know, all these channels are folding, So
I will. And I'm sure they're thrilled because it'll be
my thirty five dollars that I'm getting rid of my Hulu,
I'm getting rid of my Disney, I'm getting rid of
(46:10):
anything that belongs with them, and I think that stinks.
And I think the cancel culture stinks too. I mean,
the big thing that that Trump ran on was he
was getting rid of cancel culture and he was going
to back freedom of speech. This is a tough one
because private companies don't have to follow freedom is freedom
(46:31):
of speech. They can just kind of do anything. I
saw that. I don't know if you saw this as well.
Ben and Jerry's one of the co founders, Jerry Greenfield
actually stepped down. They had sold the company to a
British owner. I think it was its Unilever or something,
but you know, they were figureheads and they don't want
him to stand up for values of justice, equity or
(46:53):
shared humanity. So he is stepping down. And I think
this is where we're going. If you want to speak
truth to power, you can't hold your job any longer.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Listen, we are definitely the cage has not been rattled.
The cage is crumbling. The cage is crumbling right in
front of our eyes. If we don't do something, we're
going to lose everything. Y'all worried about the democracy, We
are going to lose any right that we have. Everything
will be state run and then run by the federal government.
You won't have the power to go to the grocery
(47:22):
store to pick out what you want. You won't have
the power to get the clothes that you want. You
will have no freedom and no liberties if we don't
do something to flip this over right now, because it
is like a steamroller even though they're blocking some of
these deals. A lot of time, when it's the drama
going on in the world and we're so distracted with
an assassination or with a school shooting, that is when
(47:44):
they go in and they play, they make their chest
moves because we're all focused on what is happening at
that moment in the country. So when we're all looking
over here, they over there doing something else. Very scary,
it's very sketch. And I'm telling you right, we're in
for a roller coaster rat and we have no strategize
(48:05):
and you got the hold on tight, buckle down and
fight back. I'm telling you, with everything that you have,
come on, Bobby, where were going?
Speaker 1 (48:14):
I don't think I'm trying today. We already talked about
the vaccines. I think that's explain. We can talk about
where you're going and what you're doing, honey.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Hi am going to Virginia Beach, Virginia at the Funny
Bone next Thursday, the twenty fifth, and then Monday, November third,
I will be in Lips, Atlanta for my Green Party.
Get your tickets at even Bright and if you want
to be in the DMV area next Thursday to come
to the Funny Bone to see me one night only
on the twenty fifth. It's a whole hour too. You
(48:41):
get all of this Netflix before they get it. Get
your tickets at the website or at the box office
for Funnybone Virginia. Also, I'm still on tour with Tiffany Hatties.
You go to Tiffanyhattish dot com for ticket information Biluxi,
Mississippi and Birmingham, Alabama. I see you guys November eighth
to ninth. Go to Timnany Haddies dot com ticket inform.
Bobby Clifford, where can we follow you?
Speaker 1 (49:03):
You can follow me on Instagram. I am Clifford Bobby.
I am also Laughing Learn podcast. Please send fan the
flame subjects to that and on Facebook and TikTok, I'm
just Bobby Clifford. How about you.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
I am on all social media platforms just Flame Monroe
except for Instagram. I'm Monroe Flame. Before we leave, I
have to say this because I just got the alert
on my phone, Bobby. Data analysis shows that Mega obsessively
consumes transporn. More Mega people wants trans porn than anybody else. Okay,
(49:37):
ladies and gentlemen, we want to thank you for joining
us this week here on Laugh and Learn. Congratulations to
Black Effect Network. Five years of Black Effect five years.
Congratulations all more time to Dolly, Bishop, Charlomagne, Ma God.
So many different people that's involved with Black Effect, all
the podcasters, all the producers, our producer, mister Aaron Howell.
(49:58):
I always call you Aaron, Aaron, So thank you Aaron.
We appreciate you. Guys. Hear it, laugh a learned. The
message has not changed in five years and will not
change until you get it right here it laugh alone.
We are not trying to get you to change your mind.
We are only trying to get you to use your mind,
because why, Bobby.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
As your mind and your vote are a terrible thing
to waste, and some of.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
Y'all wasted y'all votes, God damn it. Okay, but we'll
see you next week. Have a great week.
Speaker 7 (50:25):
Listen, be time, be safe, be smart, be intentional, but
damn show be prepared because something is brewing and the
part is about the bus.
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