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June 6, 2024 46 mins

Flame Monroe and Bobbi Clifford unpack the recent developments with trial of Hunter Biden,the US-China trade wars, the upcoming presidential debate, concerns about Joe Biden's campaign, the competency of political figures, dirty politics, Dr. Fauci admission about the COVID-19 pandemic, the impact of misinformation, the importance of contraception rights, the need for respect in public discourse, the significance of Pride Month and much more. Tune in and comment in the socials below.

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
If you watch the Coffee Time the baby you know
the name Flame my bro also known as my bro Flames.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
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you better catch the way. You can't drop a knowledge
from fatherhood to politics, shouting now comics, just paying homage.
What's up? Tests? Yeah? You know? She ready to shine
towns on speaking to the grown a second, we gonna
come kicking and at the end we leave it with
just a list of spirits. But do you want to revisit?
So your first second listen Jill, folks for your slip.

(01:10):
Oh fucking we dig it? Good.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I don't this?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Do what you do?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I know this? Do what you do?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
This do what I do?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Hey. Hey, this is comedian Flame Moro and welcome to
season four episode for of Laugh and Learn with Flame
Monroe and Bobby Clifford. He she we how you too?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Why are you toots? What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Oh Bobby, it's been a whirlwind of a week. Oh
my god, I've done What did I do? That'st week?
I did the talk and then I did don Lemon great,
thank you, and then I got a little controversy behind
the donal Lemmy interview. So it's been a week, but
I'm telling you it's been productive. And this weekend I'm
so looking forward to going to traveling to the Dominican

(02:14):
Republic for Coco, my girlfriend, Coco Bankcardia, his fiftieth birthday. Okay,
so I'm excited about that, but I'm glad to be
here with you, my darling. How's everything. How is your week?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
It's going okay, It's we're like ending spring, getting ready
for summer. So here in New England, I feel like
it's ninety today. Last week it was in the fifties, sixties.
We seem to go to a summer in a blink
of an eye. Your body can't catch up, but you
also have your little energized you know too, a little
stroll today. It was really nice. So I haven't been

(02:47):
doing anything soun like you. I didn't have an interview
with Don Lemon, and there should be no It was
a solid interview. I loved it, very professional. He looks great,
he seems to be doing well. He bounced back after
the x Baco and the CNN stuffle.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
That Severan's pay was his friend. And you will get
the chance to sit with with him, because I've already
asked him to sit with us on leaf and learn
to interview, so and he agreed to it. He just
we just got to fit it into his schedule, okay,
So he'd be willing.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
So he'll be willing to do the politics and stuff.
That'll be fun to have somebody on.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Oh that's oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
What he's looking for. I actually would be. My question
would be what do you want to see in the
fall if Biden gets a second term? What are you hoping?
And vice versa. So oh great, yay, so oh see,
you're even bring any better news. I'm clicking my heels.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
So yeah, it's been it's been a week, Bobby. I
had a great time with him. I'm looking forward to
going to the Dominican Republic this weekend because I need
a vacation and to get away from my.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
D You really do, actually you do? You need to
reach much.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, I'm going to write and enjoy and lay out
my get a son hand and a couple of other things.
But we'll see.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
You haven't been on a vacation and it's always got
work involved, I don't think since I've known you.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, this is no, a lie. Yeah, this is all me,
just laid out. I could just lay out and get
a Sontan, but I'm still going to have to come
back to the United States to see what kind of
drama we in. And since we're talking about our wonderful country, Bobby,
what are we going to start at? Who do we lose?
This week?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Lost Larry Allen. He was Dallas Cowboys Super Bowl champion.
What's notable about him is that he was only fifty
two years old and he passed away while on vacation.
Kind of sad with his family in Mexico. So he
was He's in the In twenty thirteen, he was inducted
into the Hall of Fame, so that was pretty sad.

(04:45):
And the other thing that I'm really sad on it's
not a death, but you could be taken this way
is Ciddy Laupper is having her farewell tour and I'm
kind of sad about that. I hope that it's just
for concerts. And like I loved her in Kinki Boots
she wrote all music. I hope she's still going to
work because she's so clever. And then you had an
anniversary you wanted to talk about didn't you.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yes, Today is the thirtieth anniversary of Sister at two.
I watched so many of the cast members We will
be Goldberg on the view today, Shirley, Ralph, Tanya Blunt
who's from Chicago, who I know personally, and so many
other other cast members on there, Kathleen the Jimmy, who
I absolutely adored.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
I do too, isn't she Oh?

Speaker 2 (05:27):
She is just the funniest lady ever. And it was
just really good to see all that. And I love
that so many of them are still alive, you know,
to talk about this thirty years lady, you look back
and you're like wow. But sometimes it looks like I
can remember everything that we were doing because I can
remember things that I did thirty years ago, and I'm like,
I can remember everything that happened that they on set
and MOVA. So it's fun to have those memories. I

(05:47):
hope I never lose my memory. I may lose a
whole lot of other things. I hope I never lose
my memory.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
I'd like to lose a little weight, but you know,
I think that music does that to us. So that
it was full of fun at the acting portion, but
the music was so great and I've said to you,
we're the same age. Ish will say, you know, thirty
nine in my age, and you will. Something will happen

(06:12):
and I start to sing a song in my head
and then all of a sudden, you know, because you're
doing the live, you'll start to sing the same song.
And I'm thinking, oh my god, it's that sunny, you know,
you know same, We have a like experience. So I
love that. That must have been a lot of fun.
I taped it. I'll watch it later.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Also, I want to say, I'm sad to hear that
Jlo's tour was canceled for low ticket sales. I think
a lot of eveness.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Is that what it was?

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, well, I think a lot of major celebrities people.
That shows you the crisis of finances actually in this
country for the common man and woman, you know. And
it's not that people are broke broke, but people are
holding on to what they have because the state of
the nation is so tea toatter is is the word

(06:59):
I want to say say, because you don't know, you
don't know from day to day what's going to happen,
So a lot of people are really trying to hold
on to some of their money. Now I'm saying that
what it's saying that Trump got thirty four diatments last year,
but in like four or five days he raised two
hundred million dollars. According to the media.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
He raised I think I haven't written here somewhere he
raised in may A loone one hundred and fifty one million.
I mean, it's that the saddest thing you ever heard. Now,
I didn't know it was low ticket sales I got.
So I have two pieces I got because we've heard
all this massive that there's something going on in the
marriage I got. I think it speaks to the Also,

(07:36):
though the price of ticket sales claim. When I was
a kid, you could go for like twenty five bucks,
fifty bucks, you got to shake their hand. Now they're
hundreds and hundreds of dollars. Taylor swifts are ten thousand.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
For the love of God, so ijil, I think, yeah,
I'm sorry, Bobby. I think Jalo's prices were a little excessive.
They were Live Nation was paying her supposedly ninety million
dollars for a Vegas reside for ninety shows, which is
a million dollars a show. But I'm going to say
this and this is no dig at Jlo. Because I
love me some Jlo in the movies, but when I'm

(08:09):
writing in a car with friends, I've never heard nobody say, oh,
let's play some Jlo. I just have never heard that.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
I think I feel like not comparing there too closely
to Beyonce. I feel like they're both. I do say
that with Beyonce though, with the music, she's a hell
of an entertainer. So I think that the residency that
would be something that I would be willing to go.
I'm not going to pay a thousand dollars for it,

(08:35):
but I think you're right. I know exactly what you're saying.
So that that said, and then I feel like we
have to almost get into the meat of it. One
of the last things that I had heard this afternoon.
I've had a kind of a world one day, so
I haven't been able to spend too much time on
catching up was I can't believe this is happening again.

(08:58):
But in the midst of his trial, Hunter Biden, the
Republicans now want to bring charges criminal charges against him
and President Biden's brother James for what they said lying
during the impeachment inquiry. I'm not quite sure what they're

(09:19):
lying about. I mean they have been. They have looked
every which way from Sunday to put president bad and
get some charges. They haven't found anything. I don't know
what he possibly could have lied about, but I am
I have to tell you, I'm getting this week. I
don't know what it is. Maybe I'm hormonal or lack
of hormones. I am getting a little discouraged. I still

(09:41):
think this is the best country in the world to live,
but that's not saying so much right now with all
the nonsense that's gone on, and I'm just a little disappointed.
I feel a little hopeless today.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Oh God, I'm telling you, Bobby, I love my moments
of today, but I'm like, oh my god, what are
we going to do? I feel like sometimes when I
watch the news, and sometimes I don't want to watch
the news. But you know, we're in the business of
watching the news, not because we do the podcast, but
because we're Americans. We want to know what is happening

(10:15):
in our world. But oh, some days I feel exactly
the same way, Bobby, like I'm so discouraged with something
that it looks like I have absolutely no control over.
I think that's what it is because in my head,
I think I know the answers that I can show
the weight, but I'm not in any kind of position
of power to say, hey, let's look at it this way.

(10:36):
We tried it that way. I don't know, is this.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
And enough of the political stuff? I mean, Trump had
the thirty four indictments and he did do it. I mean,
the receipts were there. He did it. But do we
necessary We've talked on this on prior podcast. Do we
necessarily need to bring this case at this time with
the world knowing that the outcome is going to be
so silly, it's going to be probably Finds and Cohen.

(11:01):
You just giving him the fines as an asside, do
we have to do the cost? And all he did was,
as you just mentioned, get fifty four million in a
twenty four hour period. And now we're talking about men
of color. They're they're interviewing on the street and they
feel like they've got some sort of something to identify
with them, which is supposed person.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
And as a trans woman, I believe that I secretly,
this is my opinion, I believe that black men are
secretly supporting Donald Trump because I don't know if he
represents if it's the gangster in him, or is it
the defiance in him, or is it I'm going to

(11:41):
do it my way or it's not going to get done.
I think that they believe that he is speaking a
language that resonates to him. The sad part is you're
causing damage to yourself. If you ask for me my opinion,
you're voting against yourself. I don't vote against me. That
they do that in sports bet against me, and to me,

(12:02):
voting for him is betting against me. I'm not going
to bet against me because I'm a winner.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, I just don't in my opinion, just because somebody
has been sent a trial and it might not have
been a big case. We're talking as far as identifying
he still is guilty of all of it. His experience
is still vastly different than yours. He had the best
of the best attorneys that were handed to him, probably
at no cost of his own private dollar, you know,

(12:27):
which is actually what got him in trouble with all
this stuff. Had he just reached into his pocket paid
the hush money to her, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
But he didn't want to pay for it. Himself. So
it's all. But I just feel like the whole Hunter
Biden thing, where maybe it was a sweetheart deal, it
wasn't a sweetheart deal in the back of his dad.

(12:47):
But I just feel like this is where we're at.
An admitted attict who said he had nothing but problems.
He already paid all the fines and did everything, and
now we're dragging up. So today, the third day on
the trial, the ex wife comes and she says that
she wasn't too bad, but she said that she was
aware in twenty fifteen that he had a problem. She'd

(13:09):
gotten twenty fourteen. They might have been one because remember
he both of Biden's sons were in the military. He
exited in twenty fourteen from the Navy, and she had
found paraphernalia, she never saw him doing it, blah blah blah.
And then there was, you know, on the cross examination

(13:29):
of that FBI agent, she couldn't she couldn't verify that
Biden did what he actually claimed he was doing during
the Texas and stuff. And then the ex girlfriend comes
and says she bought in drugs, and it just dragged
it all up for everybody to see. And I swear
it's for nothing more. It is political, but definitely to
embarrass Biden. And he's kind of come out. He came

(13:50):
out last week and said, you know, as I'm the president,
but I'm also a dad. He said in Jill and
I love her son, and we're so proud of the
man that he is today. And I said, you go
like you stand up your kids.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yes, And I love that he will. He does because
we always holler and separating church and state. I love
that he separates that, yes I am the president and
yes this is my son, but this is also a
regular citizen, and that he does wrong, he will have
to face the consequences. Now do I think that he'll
get a little more special treatment than other people because
he is Joe Biden's son, Well, of course I do,

(14:24):
just like I expect Trump's children and Trump to get
special treatment because they were put in those positions. But
I love the fact that Joe acknowledges that, no, we're
not perfect, and my kid isn't perfect, and if he
does something wrong, I have to acknowledge that. But they're
doing anything and everything that they can bobby to cloud
the American people's perspective of President Biden. Because you know,

(14:44):
they want to make him look bad, they want to
make him look incompetent, They want to make anything. But
Hunter Biden was never the president. Hunter Biden wasn't in
a position working at the White House where he made
decisions or choices. He wasn't. So y'all got to stop
looking at that. You got the look at who was
a Bonika Trump and the Trump Boys. He was never

(15:05):
in those positions. I believe it because as a parent,
Joe knew exactly who his son is. I believe that
he knew exactly who his son is. And no, I
don't need you around this. You got your own life.
I'm gonna covet you and take care of you, but
I don't need you in here my professional life. And
I respect him for that. I think a lot of
people put that off and miss that.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
It is. And with people that have addiction, what we're
can do is we can support them and tell them
that we love them, but we can't step in their way.
Sometimes some of our I mean, you've seen this throughout
your life, some of our biggest falldowns. We get the
best information from that, you know. It's how we rise up,
It's how we learn and he isn't this drug addiction

(15:50):
if twenty fourteen, if she's rise, this was happening at
the end of his vice presidency. So in let's remember everybody,
I think he's in his mid fifth now, he was.
He was also a grown ass man in his mid forties.
He wasn't. Joe Biden was not responsible from at this point.
He had his own wife and children and a children,
have a child here and a child there, and so yeah,

(16:15):
I just it's just messy. It's and again we say
this every single week. Claim what are we not talking about?

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Well, let me just say this taking much prices was
around me. I might have got pregnant too, because Hunting
was found when he was a little younger. Let's just
talk about it. Hunting was good looking.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Before the stress. He was before this stress he was.
And that's another thing that that that's a father knows.
So this is what I've said about RFK, And I
can appreciate that he has been clean and sober for
many years, but being in the in the White House,
these are high stress, high pressure positions. I am sure
Joe even if a hunter could have handed you know,
mentally could have handled it intellectually is what I mean,

(16:56):
not mentally it would it might have been too much
for him. Yeah, he was. He was hands of all
this pressure over the past three years. That poor guy
has aged like ten years. But it's it's when you're
when you've admitted you had a problem, you got help
for the problem, you resolved the problem, you paid your fees.
How much more can we can we beat him down?

(17:16):
They had the guy that sold him them, that sold
him the gun and said he did come in and
he did sheck and he even said to him, make
sure you don't make mistakes. But he also said he
didn't appear to be impaired. Yeah, like, how are they
going to prove in twenty eighteen? You know the ex
girlfriend did say up till September, I don't know when
the gun was purchased, that you knew that he did
use drugs. And here's the other thing. Having addicts in

(17:37):
my family, they never think that they're an avenue in
the beginning until.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I don't know, as Americans, I think that we forget
or as people period some days you don't want to
get out of bed, and that's nothing that you're sick
or you you don't some days you just don't want
to do nothing. As the president of the United States,
you don't have the luxury of having those days. And
he is not twenty five years old, he's not fifty's

(18:04):
eighty he's eighty.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
No, he's eighty one. Yeah, he's eighty one years old.
And I have said to you, I think if we
had a better option, I don't think he would have run.
I think he would have happily hinged over the reins.
But because nobody else is stepping up or has a
chance about going head to head with Trump, I think
he feels like he had to stay in I think

(18:27):
he'd like to go around and stay with his grandkids
and his great grandkids. That will probably happen because he
had a granddaughter that got married last year or the
year before. Yeah, I mean, the verdict can come and
as quickly as two weeks. Usually a first time offender
won't get like the full If they did convict him,
he faces up to twenty five years in prison though,
and seven hundred and fifty dollars and seven hundred and

(18:49):
fifty thousand dollars and fines. So it is we get
a lot of first this time around. How you don't
usually it's with Trump. It's the first time in the
history of American history. Child of the.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
City is what somebody else did over the president. Because
none of these are Joe Biden's issues. These are his
children's issues, you know, And we're not responsible for everything
that our children do. But he is the president of
the free world. He got a lot of responsibilities. Okay,
Prayers to the Biden family and to Hunter Biden. You know,

(19:20):
I don't know. I don't know all the ramifications of
what has happened with Hunter, but I like Hunter, I
like well, I like the Biden family. I like family.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Let me just say that because they're decent. They're all
decent people, and they all love each other. It's a
family that gets along. I'm sure they have their squabbles,
don't get me wrong, I don't. I don't want to
know things that have happened. Everybody can keep those comments
to yourself. But the appearance that they give is that
they all love each other and they support each other.
And I love that Joe Biden has integrity and has

(19:49):
stepped out and said what happens happened. He was a
grown man and he's not going to.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, and before you get in. Yes, Joe Biden is
not perfect. He did sign the the bill about Stephen Frisco.
He did that, but none of us are perfect.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
None of us was the best at the time.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
I don't know if it was the best at the time. Bobby,
I'm not going to agree with that. As a black person,
I'm not going to agree that it was the best
at the time.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
No, I understand, but it was. Well, sometimes it's the
best they put out. These are two options. Once sucked
and this was the best.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
This is what I mean. But I think that being
that that crimes bill, I think that it should have
been reviewed a little deeper. But he didn't know that
he was going to be the president of the United
States one day. I know he wanted to be, but
he probably thought that he would probably never be. So
we have all made mistakes. I'm not It's not like,

(20:42):
oh I forgot. I didn't forget. But like Bobby said,
we only have two options, and I'm only I'm choosing
the option that seemed like it works for me.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
And he's presidential, so you know, between the two options.
He doesn't talk poorly about anybody he's come even I
don't know if you've noticed this. He's cut out and
done a few ads about you know, Trump's campaign, and
they've been negative, and it's it doesn't quite sit right
with me because it's not him, do you know, Like
it's not You can see he's uncomfortable about it, but

(21:15):
he has no choice because he's got to He's got
to reach these young people somehow. And I don't know how.
I don't know how that's going to happen. Well, I
don't know how it's going to happen. You know. He
came up with the immigration today or yesterday, and that's
another hot friggin mess. So the squad is mad, you know,
the progressives are all mad at him. The ACLU is

(21:38):
going to take him to court because he's putting people
at risk. What about the Americans that are at risk? Well,
and he had to do something. He sat on his
hands for three years waiting for the bill to pass,
somebody to come up with something better. At this point,
we're in crisis mode.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Something that the Republicans brought to the table that he
was ready to go on with. But then y'all allowed
the last administration to get in your head to make
the bill go somewhere else, I'm telling you we are.
It is so crazy. But Bobby, unfortunately, I think that
we are going to have to learn the very hard way.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
And I agree it's and maybe that's what every country,
you know, like you kind of hit a point and
every country has to has to you know, have some
speed bumps. But I'm hoping something. I mean, this at
least stops stops the bleeding end twenty five hundred. He
doesn't have a restriction, and I don't know if that.
I think people are concerned about this because it could

(22:37):
be it could get dangerous. He doesn't have a restriction
on miners who are unaccompanied because they're they're nervous that
a the parents will send the kids all over by
themselves on purpose now because it's not going to be stopped.
And what I heard one of the talking heads today,
one of the GOP talking heads, and I thought, they
will have to figure out a way to vetit is

(22:58):
some of the cartels with human trafficking might send these
girls seventeen and under under you know, over the line,
and so we're gonna have to figure they're going to
figure out that he's.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
A bag of yuck because you know, young girls they're
going to they're going to take advantage of those girls
and destroy their lives and destroy their innocence, and just
so it's so much, it's too much to unpack right now, Bobby,
Let's go to uh ooh somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
All right, let's go back up so I can tell
you what he oh, I just went by, So what
he is doing. He's been so the US trying to
China trade wars and kind of heating up with EV cars,
which is you know, President Biden has been pushing for
emissions at reasons. I know you've had you've got to
hybrid yourself, and you've had you've got issues with it.
But he wants, you know, he wants American evs to

(23:51):
be used, not Chinese, and he's putting one hundred percent
tariff on Chinese EV's that are coming over. So he's
targeting eighteen billion worths of these imports. So he you know,
we have been getting along very well with China. China
hasn't be getting along very well with us. So it's
a way to kind of sanction. People are not going
to be happy, but we're gonna we're going to have

(24:12):
to have some sort of blood loss on on consumer side,
because we really have to get off these Chinese products.
They break anyway.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Fresh.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Some are good and some are not not.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
So some of the science that they made in China,
I don't guess, some that they made in th h
E and A.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
China. Yeah, so some people feel it's kind of a
symbolic move, but he's letting China know we're coming. You know,
we're not going to put up. He had all those
text credits from the Chips Act and the Inflation Reduction Act.
So I'm hoping that somebody, you know, with these unique
cars kind of kind of picks up the torch and

(25:03):
keeps going, oh god, you know, we have to talk
about and I really do it.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
But they want it. They want it's they.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Wanted so Trump. So the Court of Appeals granted emotion
for Fannie Willis. The judge who initially heard the case
earlier this year, did feel that there were issues with
her relationship, but felt they could be remedied, which they
were by the partner. I'm blinking on his name right now,
resigning what she did. So now it's coming forward again

(25:37):
and it will be reviewed and we'll see where that's
going to go. I think that this judge is just
she's just looking for anything that she possibly can.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Too.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
The same with the Jack Smith that canon, she's looking
for anything she possibly can to try to delay these
these cases. In fact, the one that's canon is overseeing
is she has postponed it indefinitely. She has not come
out with any type of date, so we have no idea.

(26:11):
We obviously it's not going to happen before the election.
At this point. She is trying to see if they
can remove I don't know if she is under somebody's
influence or if she's terrified on making some sort of
mistake on that subversion case, but she is allowing there

(26:32):
to be a day and a half hearing that third
parties can come in and put their two cents in
to see if he is if he is fit to
be to still.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Be hear as younger about dirty politics. When I tell
you that we don't have to hear about it, it's
right in.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
A face, it's right all over, and it's not one
thing like so that's exactly dirty Polo. That was the Watergate.
Remember that was one thing that was going on. There
weren't nine hundred and twenty everywhere you turn it's nothing.
And that's what it's making me sad about Joe, because

(27:12):
he is going to have to turn to not necessarily dirty,
but dirty than he's just doing. I don't like that.
I like to go high and the go low, and
you know, like I.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Like all that, Sometimes you got to get real low.
I know somebody who went load this morning. Sometimes you
got to get real low. And the first debate's coming
up on June and twenty seven, and as much as
I'm looking forward to it, I need Joe to be
Chris like you always tell me I want. I want
sharp flames. You need Joe to be concise. I need

(27:43):
every punch to to have impact. I need every word
to strike a chord. Yep. But you know it, whoo,
it's shaky. Let me say that, I don't know if
it's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
I mean they say it, everybody says it's going to happen,
but I don't know, especially well, he's not going to
be he's not going to be sentenced Trump yet. Like
it's depending on what happens with him too, right, But
somebody was talking about they want to bring U Joe
in and have him have him looked at because oh
the Wall Street Journal Murdoch's little baby, you know, and

(28:19):
you know whose pocket Murdock is. And they had they
had forty five people interviewed GOP as well as Democrats
about Joe's sanity, sharpness, ability to do the job. And
I was listening to it on the radio, so I didn't.
I came in like one beat late from forgetting the

(28:39):
the Democratic senator's name, and he's so the article had
only the GOP side and that he's old, and that
he's he's out of the job and he can't. And
so this Democratic senator said, we all were in and
we spoke to we were just in a meeting, and
it was so multifaceted, faceted and so complex, and anybody

(29:04):
other than Joe coming and coming in because of his
fifty years of experience, would never He went back and
said no, no, in sixty two and in seventy eight,
and we told him the final time in eighty eight.
He doesn't seem like he's slow to main He does
no physically. Is his body slower?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Oh see? And that's just that is just com painting
a picture of what they want joke President Biden to
be perceived as I'm right again. I'm riding with bad
he damn show ain't driving. I promise you he could
sit on it. He can sit right next to me
in the middle of the middle seat. You know they
haven't had those middle seat cars in the eight seventies.
He could sit in one of the right in the middle,

(29:42):
on the whole front bro one of.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
The bench, right on the bench. We'll get a big
bench for you, or one of those you could do
one of those motorcycles that has a little sun.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
He can tell me to go left, go right, go straight,
go backwards, because I'm going to listen to him because
he will be the commander in chief and he will
be the man in charge, so I will listen to him,
but I will do the driving. But Bobby, I'm telling
you right now, it is whoo mind boggling to see
where we're hitded is mind boggling to see where we're headed.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
It's crazy. I mean Trump every time he opens his mouth.
And I hate saying this because I feel like I'm
I'm part of the problem of pitting Democrat against It's
not it's this particular man he's now saying. And I'm
sure you've heard him all over the place that he
never said locked Hillary up. I never said it. He

(30:29):
forgets that there's you know, there's that bean footage like
they say on the Bush Beans. I mean they bring
up like five different times that he did. So it's
it's it's crazy. I think that he actually, I think
he needs to be looking at he believes what he says.
Anybody says, he believes.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
It his his, his his.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
I think he actually, I don't know. I think he actually.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Said he had meltdown. He's had memories of moments of
memory lapse and so many different things publicly. And yes,
he did say he didn't remember saying lord Hillary up
if she was convicted of a felony. And he did
say he did say that uh, president should get should
not get partied. He said lots of things. I don't

(31:18):
remember if that was exactly the right quote about president
should get pardoned.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
As long as it's not him, that's what he should say.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
But but everything that he has said that pertaining to
someone else in the criminal activities, that comes back to
bite the minute butt. But then he like he selectively forgets.
So you're right, But Bobby, let me tell you something.
I think we are selectively forgetting the American people.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
I'm not I remember every I remember him saying, do
you remember him going for TikTok's throat? Well, guess who
joined TikTok this week and has a bazillion a bazillion
followers already. I just can't believe it. And I misspoke earlier.
I said that his campaign brought in one hundred and
fifty one million. It was one hundred and forty one million.
I apologize, I know, but I like to be I

(32:10):
don't want people thinking it's it's it was one of
a little.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
I know, I know, and it's still and is still
still doing it. You know, I saw something that I
thought was kind of funny, and I wonder if they
if they will follow follow him. So, you know, the
Democratic Senator Bob Menendez is on trial in New York
for corruption bribery. His son Rob won his Democratic primary

(32:44):
against Mayor Rabi Bala for Northern New Jersey. I thought
that was now, maybe he'll be the good guy and
try to kind of clear or not be compared to
his father at all, and show us that you know,
that last name doesn't doesn't mean anything necessarily.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
All the generations new change though, because let me tell something,
and I'm not a Republican. I'm not a conservative. I
was asked for when did I become conservative this week
with Donald them, and I'm like, I have a damn conservative.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, but like no, but you're a moderate, You're you're
you don't like like you're not giving it away like
Bernie Sands an independent, but you're not giving it.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
A Paul uh was one of my favorites, and he
was a Republican. He's very seasonal, but his son Ram Paul.
I never agree with anything that he said. And of
course now the roaches are coming out because now he
has come out. He's been quiet all this time, but
now we're down to the finished land and now he
wants to come out with his rhetoric about this, that
and the third. I think that that that that brilliance

(33:42):
and sanity and common sense skips generations or you know,
sometimes it's for the older and the youth, and sometimes
it's for the youth or the old. I think it's
skipped generations byby I think people are.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Do you think we spoil them? Do you think it's
skips or the father like we'll even say Trump he
was his dad was a bright man, an excellent businessman.
And I think what happens is when you do that,
you always want to give your kid more, and you
want to whatever, and you spoil them and they don't
come with that same heat because they don't need to.
And then maybe the next generation does. I don't know.

(34:17):
I feel like I feel like there's a little nurture
in nature.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Well, you might have used the wronger example, I mean,
I mean, I remember that John Trump was a great businessman.
Because you might use the wrong you might have started
off with the wrong family.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
It seems like there's a lot going on at the
congressional hearings there after Fauci.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
I'm glad you brought Fauci. I won't get into that
because I want to I want to close out. I
never supported Fauci. Let me say that again publicly. I
never supported him because I lost so many fans during
the AIDS crisis. And I was never anti vaccine. I've
had all kind of vaccines in my youth. I was
anti the way they distributed this last one. And now
he's under fire, people saying he's dead. So he's there.

(35:00):
He made up the sort that is the problem. Bobby,
I don't know what to be true because I'm not
a scientist. I wasn't there on the other end to
work on it. But because you keep giving us twelve
thousand different stories, what do I believe? Now here's the thing.
COVID is still very prevalent in America, but because we're
not talking about it on the news anymore, it's like

(35:21):
it went away. It never went away. And according to
the last administration, A first of all, it wasn't real,
then it was real, then take bleach, then put uv lights,
and then it's it's been so many differents And that
is what it is. When you hit me with twelve
different thousand things about one thing, I don't know what

(35:42):
to believe. So if it's me and I think of
myself as a pretty bright person, I'm not the most
intelligent person.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
You got to go with your God.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
But when so many different people are telling you all
these different informations, you don't know what to believe. Bobby,
you know what I'm saying. You working in healthcare, so
you were talking about the common person who does it.
So if you hit me with this today, they say
take it tomorrow is this way? The next day is
I don't know what to do, so I imagine it.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
No, I understand that, but I also think that so
these people have been given in the congressional hearings, all
of the people, they've been given the information. So what
happens in research is it's the best information that we
have at that time. They were given Fauci and Burke's
and all of them. They were given information the moment
by moment flame you know, they were saying, you know,

(36:36):
this is what we should do, and then they would
find something because they would just get a little bit
more information and that negated it. And then they get
a little bit more information and that negated it. That's
how we went from having to wear a mask at
all times, and then we went to the certain masks
that we should have, and then we went to six feet,
which he said he was never four, but the CDC
felt six feet because that's how far droplets can go.

(36:57):
It's they really are doing the best. We talk to
little earlier and I said, one of what I think
would be something wonderful that would come out of all
of this is like a debrief, Like I would love
a committee to go in because there will be another
pandemic hopefully not, maybe not in our time. But if
there is, what do we learn, what do we do well,
what do we do really poorly? What could have changed?

(37:19):
And where should we go from there? Because I don't
believe that anybody, even the Orange Man, I don't believe
anybody was trying to give information to harm anyone. I
think they were trying to make it the American people
or the people of the world feel like they had
some sort of control, when the reality is there was
no control, They had no idea. They still need to

(37:40):
figure out exactly where it came from. The lass that
I heard was that Redfield, who used to be I
think he was the head of the CDC. He thinks
it it might have been from some sort of vaccine
that they were trying to create and China for their people,
for their military or whatnot, to protect them going out,

(38:04):
and then they didn't keep they didn't keep it enclosed
correctly enough, and then they.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Take too many people behind. That some of this chemical warfare,
and that that is my fear about us ever going
into war in America, that the chemical warfare is a
lot of carrier. To me, then I know the bomb
is coming.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
No, And I think you, and so even you saying that,
that's why I want more research done. That's why I
want to know more information because somebody could use this
to weaponize. You might not kill everybody, but god, you
could take a whole population out at one time. You
could shut a country down for a financial gain.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
I'd like to a lot of people. People could go blind,
lose their you lose their sense of COVID took your
sense of face, It took your sense of smell, it
took your energy.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
COVID Yes, for some people. For some people it took
their lives, as we know, and people who who appeared
healthy but had underlying things that we didn't necessarily know.
But I'll tell you it's more what we were talking
about when I was feeling a little hopeless, and it
was definitely from this. It's the vitriol. It was the horrific,
the wording, just like we're having the conversation now. We

(39:20):
might not totally agree, but I'm learning from you. You're
annoinning for me. That Marjorie Taylor Green, she wouldn't call
doctor Fauci doctor, she called him mister because he's not
a doctor. Well, I'm pretty sure that he went to
medical school. He did an internship, he did a residency,
he did a fellowship. I'm pretty sure he's a doctor.
And I still want to yell, comb your hair.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Your disrespect blatantly allowed to happen at the top, and
we're watching it. It's going to completely trickle down to
where nobody will have respect from them body. There's a
line from my favorite cartoon, The Incredibles where Syndrome, the
bad guy, says he was going to make once every

(40:00):
is what were they super, then nobody will be we
have become everybody is the same. Everybody, well we should
be the same. But because we glorify a certain people
and we put them on pedestals. Politicians, judges, doctors, and
those people should be respected, but sometimes we put them

(40:20):
up on a high pedestal. And now when we see
that they're just real people, regular people, nobody has respect
for them. It is eof wo yep.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
No, it's something something, something has to happen with that
bleach blonde body.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
She was.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
She was shut down. I mean she was shut down.
They they did it very respectfully to her. She wasn't
given any but they did it with her. They said, listen,
hold on, he is a doctor, you will refer to
him that way. I don't even know if she knew
what she was talking about. You know, it's the same thing, Marjorie,
What would you have done? You had a gazillion million people.
I don't know how many at the top of my head,

(41:02):
how many citizens we have right now? It's your job
to protect them, and you're going with the best you
know at this moment. What do you do?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yeah, So I like to see how she she could
have done any better. But I think we can learn.
I think this is a huge learning curve that we
could have, and I think it'll be very disappointing if
this administration doesn't do something to kind of figure that out.
And then Merrick Colland he's not going to be intimidated.
He was upset to they were being mad at him.
He was Biden's consensus pick, and now everybody hates his guts.

(41:34):
Bill Maher called him an attorney general Bomby fund.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Bill. I would like to say, I would love to
sit with that man one day, Bubby. I think.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Show that's my bucket dream for you.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Say we needed to put yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Yeah, he's half mixed, so so yeah, hopefully keeping our
fingers crossed. There is a new bill out just that everybody,
you're going to have to stay tuned. We don't have
a lot of information on it. The Right to Contraception
Bill of twenty twenty four. It is something that the
Senate is expected to vote on today, fingers crossed. That
will allow and guarantee access country nationwide for contraception. It

(42:19):
will give people the birth control pill, It'll give them
playing B pill, It'll give condoms i u D another
form of contraception. So fingers and toast cross we might
not be able to get Roe v. Wade immediately, but
if we can start doing stuff like this so people
don't I'll take get pregnant.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I'll take for those Playing B pills was killing me
during the pandemic. Good god, I had them, at least
fifteen of them. I ain't goingly well.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
You know, we could say a little something about you.
You could have got a hobby, make a bird.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
House or something. Bird was always in somebody's house, that's
the problem.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
But Texas didn't do so. While they they somebody put
put through a challenge to the restrictive bandon abortions and
and Texas Supreme Court helped it up. So nothing in Texas, don't.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
That's a whole another ball game. I've seen Abbott out
there at the border in his wheelchair. Lord knows, I
wanted one of them rocks to just flatten the tires
on that chair. But we'll we'll, thank God, you will
get to that, ladies. And I'm listen, this is laugh
and Learn. We appreciate. We want you to send us
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(43:34):
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Speaker 3 (43:45):
Don't send any porn. No porn. I don't want to
see anymore. My eyes have been they've rolled back in
my head. I've seen things that no white fat lady should.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
What she said, so send it to me. No, I'm
just yeah, listen, we like they are.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
God.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
We are on season four of Laughing Learn. We appreciate you, guys.
We thank you guys for being here with us. We
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(44:28):
to change, because the same model here at Laughinglin. We
are not trying to get you to change your mind.
We are only trying to get you to use your
mind because of why Bobby Clifford.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Because a mind is a terrible thing to waste. And
I want to say.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
You and please be careful out that prize. I've seen
something happened in Philadelphia where the Palestinian protesters had blocked
the Pride parades. I don't know what is going on
with the world. I also seeing a bunch of fights.
But just be careful, keep your hair on a swivel,
in the words of T. TJ. And just watch what's
happening and your surroundings, because every day something is happening.

(45:02):
People are on edge, and people are having meltdowns. But
here at Leaftlane and we would try to keep you
as informed as possible, and we ask that you do
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and women on the street to let us know what's
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Speaker 3 (45:40):
Can barely handle back and forth. I am Clifford Bobby
on Instagram. I am Bobby Clifford on Facebook. I'm on TikTok,
but I don't go on very often. And I want
to say stay cool, everybody. We have like triple digits
coming across the country, so everybody stay hege hydrated, keep
those puppies in and stay gred.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
We have air condition. I'm gonna us some water on
my dollars and put their ass up under the air. Okay,
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