July 4, 2024 • 54 mins
Comedian Flame Monroe and co-host Bobby Clifford unpack the recent presidential debate, the state of the Democratic Party, the importance of standing with Joe Biden, the fear of Trump winning and the need for stronger surrogates. They also discuss the impact of Giuliani's disbarment, the push for displaying the Ten Commandments and teaching the Bible in schools, the Dobbs decision, Robert Kennedy, the Supreme Court, the US Marshals' efforts to recover missing children and much more. Happy Fourth of July! Tune in and comment in the socials below.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
He shot. If you watch the Coffee Time the baby
you know the name Flame, my bro also known as
my bro Flame.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Come in with last and come in with him love loundes. Baby,
you better catch it when you can drop a knowledge
from fatherhood to politics, shouting now comics, just paying homage.
What's up to? Yeah? You know she raided shout towns
on speaking to the ground a second. We're gonna last
cut up and kick it and at the end we
leave it with just a lifted spirits. Did you want
to revisit? So your first second? Listen Jill folk So
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it's lip oh folking, we dig it. Hey, no this
do what you do?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
This do what you do?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Ha, No this do what I do? No? Hey, hey, hey,
(01:40):
this is comedian Flame Monroe and welcome to this week's
episode of Laugh and Learn. Ladies and gentlemen. We are
so glad to be back. It has been such an
exciting week in politudes going on with the news and
I miss you guys. Hire your tutz hi a tutz
how's it going? Everything is going? Find if you don't
know who Tisy is, lady, if you're new to laugh
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a learnt and we always love new subscribers. Then that
is my beautiful co host, Bobby Clifferck, especially or to
the regular fame that she's known as Miss cot because
she's she's Irish, Catholic American and she lives in Boston,
so you know, it's all kinds of accents going on
over there. Anyway, how was everything, Bobby? How was everything?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
It's been a rough week, which we're going to get into.
I'm okay personally, everybody's doing okay. It's it's I don't
even want to turn the TV on.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well, we're going to get into the polities. Let me
tell y'all about my week. First of all, Whens. Last
Wednesday night, I opened for Tiffany Hatis here at the
Lone Beach laugh Actor. Y'all know my history at the
laugh Factor right now. But Tiffany asked me to do
it and we had a great show, Yes, she and
I and and then the next morning I fell up
to Chicago and I did Urban Pride. I hosted a
(02:53):
fashion show and then I hosted a show at the
Park and Jackson Parks for Urban Pride. Thank you to
the Urban Pride Committee. Treated True Love Ken Beach. I
co hosted with my guy oldis smack uh.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
It was.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It was such a wonderful pride celebration. And when I
say that, I'm a part of the LGBT community, even
as ostracized and sometimes I feel but I love to
see my age demographic. A few younger people that hung
out with us, loving on each other, showing what pride
really is supposed to be about. We were barbecuing, They
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had the street vendors, they had the sponsors who was
giving our literature for mental health, mental care, health care, condoms,
HIV testing, just so many people barbecuing. Everybody was playing
come get one of my ribs. I'm like, oh, let
me see what you your setup looked like, because if
your hands don't look clean, I ain't need your reel.
But it was the camaraderie of everybody being so wonderful
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toy to the other. And then they had these kids there.
These were dancing girl groups that were so good. They
thought I was thought. They said, can we take a
picture what you have? I said, sure that you so
if you go to my Instagram, Paige that marbo Fa,
you could see a picture of me with one of
the groups. They were the sweetest little girls. I encouraged
those little girls and told them stay and keep going,
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stay on stage. Find this is such positive because what
it taught, what it teaches as a parent. It teaches
your children's sportsmanship, It teaches them teamworkmates, the dream work.
It teaches them camaraderie, and it teaches them how to
work with other people. You're not always the star. Somebody
else was shying here and you might shine there. But
you also know if they're in those rehearsals, and if
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they're in those practices, they're not on the internet, and
they're not into bullying mess. They're in rehearsal to learn.
And they were all very very good. So hats off
to those parents and to those young ladies who dad
stay bus off too. Good. God, they was jumping over
in the air, Bobby and doing the dem drop all
on their back. Every time one of them did it.
Mind you, we were on a wood, the surface was
wood on the stage. Girl, My back hurt. For all
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of them. I had to go take an average prof
good God, I was scared to damn.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
They never felt a thing at that age. You didn't
remember that crazy stuff you used to do.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But it was so amazing. So I came home Monday,
and today I'm actually supposed to be at my premiere
because the premiere came out of We Got Ours, the
movie that I was in. But it's just it was
impossible to get there with with everything going on. But
I am here with my flames, with my Bobby, because
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with my producer, mister Aaron Howard, and we are glad
to be here. Now we're about to get into it,
and I'm gonna get I want to talk about no
other stuff going on in the news, but politics. What
we did not give you guys that we're going to
start off with. And it's not even on Bobby's schedule,
but we're going to start off with the recap of
last week's debate because we were supposed to do it,
but I was in Chicago and I was stilling myself
(05:44):
and I didn't want to talk. I'll let Bobby go second.
I'm gonna just gonna give my my analogy or my
synopsis of how I felt about the debate.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Can I asked you one question before you get into it,
because I want it. I sort of want to out
June with something that's positive. And I'm really I'm sorry.
I'm interrupting you a sorry, come on, Well, so Pride,
because you were talking about Pride Month is over and
something that for all our our people who think that
Joe is sleepy and he's this and he's not the
(06:17):
one thing that he did do and he ended Pride
Month with is he pardoned potentially thousands of ex service
members that were convicted under the Uniform Code of Military
Justice Article one twenty five, which criminalized sootomy these people
were put out of their jobs, they lost all of
their benefits. He is trying to write a historic wrong
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and this is clearing the way for them to go
back and get their benefits retro. So I just thought
it was a great way to end our Pride months
that you were just talking about, And thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
That was wonderful And this is what I'm talking about.
That was perfect segue into where I'm going to go
with this is how I feel about about the debate.
Do you see that this man sees you? Do you
hear that this man understands who you are as a person,
not your sexuality, not your color. He is not perfect. Yes,
in ninety four he he sided that bills, that Crinsville Act.
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But this is not ninety four. And he has mended
his ways and he has fixed suit loans. And they
always talk about the nigga that he owed.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
He's slow.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
He got this coombobulated. Haven't you had a bad day
at your job before? Haven't you had an off day?
And you've been doing this job for fifty He has
been doing this job for fifty years. Not the presidency,
but he has been in service to this country for
fifty years, for better or for worse. So the experience
is there, because I'll be damned if I, as an
experienced person, is going to come in. I've been working
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on his job on the assembly line for twenty years.
I'm the supervisor. And some kid goes to college and
get their master's degree, and they have the degree, they
have those skills. But I have been working at your
company for twenty years. You want me to train this
kid to be my boss? Bullshit, bullshit. I would never
do that. What I will do teach this kid, and
if you get on my nerves, I'm gonna let this
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kid go cold turkey because they will teach you how
to run this machine, but they won't give you the
experience of the hiccups, the hiccups, will say, y'all because
we're losing jobs day by day. Amazon just laid off
a whole bunch of people and hire robots. I need
you off to be paying attention to all of this.
So y'all gonna let three years of presidency of good
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service because this man has did a whole lot for
this country and economy is jacked up because he was
handed the jack of economy for one hour debate that
he had a bad night off of because right after
the debate his mind was there. Have you ever now
never thought that Joe Biden could get nervous a lot
of he already has a stuttering problem. This was probably
the most watched debate in history, so of course he
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was nervous because all eyes was on him and they
were expecting them. And Bobby made a very valid point
to me, because I'm not gonna take credit for this.
Bobby said, you know how you cram in college for
a test and you study study stuch. I think they
get overkilled to Joe. I think they overha with what
he was supposed to say. I'm like, he's been in
this for fifty years, and what we love about Joe
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is YO got a quick wit and a fast response.
Sometimes people want to see your sharpness. They don't always
want it to look like it was scripted. But I
will I'm the loyalty is shit in this country one
more time. This might be the name of this this episode.
The loyalty is shit in this country from the Democratic Party.
(09:29):
Stand with Joe. He needs us now more than ever. Yes,
he's old, but he was old when he was the
vice president. He ain't got no damn Benjamin Button juice
or he would have shared it with me. Shit way
at Hope. I mean, you know, you want to be
good in order for him to feel like he is relevant.
He has the power, He is the man. His people
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need to stand with him. Yes he's weak right now,
but we should be standing with him to make him strong.
Everybody like rats, you're ready to jump ship because somebody
told you there's a hole in the boat. Fix the
goddamn hole and be loyal, save the boat, save the country. Yes,
he had an off debate, but what he said was
the truth and Trump baited him, and they did that
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because Trump speaks with authority. He was seventy five percent lines,
but he speaks with such authority that you clowns and
losers and people who don't know who you are. Listen
to that shit and buy it, because what I'm telling
you what's coming if he fucks up and winning, is
going to be way more scary than you ever know.
There will be no a presidency, there will be no
a lot of stuff. Everything will go by the fall,
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by the wayside. That's in the Bible too. Now. I
just want to say I was not happy with I
cringed watching my president at that time, but I kept screaming,
come on, Joe. I was encouraging him from here. I
believe that if we stand together as democratic American citizens
that believe in the democracy of this country, he will
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feel our energy. But we can't show him that we're
scared too. We are afraid, God, Devin, we scared to death.
So we have to stand together like monsters, push this machine,
push back to this machine, and keep Joe in office
so that we can say whatever the microcity we can say.
And the Supreme Court is not working with us, and
to me it looks like they all hand in hand
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and Trump. Whoever advised Trump when he was the four
year president, they strategically played chess like a motherfucker, because
they have implanted spaces and places that we cannot penetrate
right now. This is why we have to show the
power that we have short up to the post voting Blue.
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I know, I know. I hear you. I hear the outcry.
I hear the outrage, I hear the fear, I hear
the he's old. I hear all of those complaints. But
what I don't want to hear is I told you so.
I don't want to hear that. I don't want to
hear that. I want you to understand that if we
lose and Trump gets in, everybody will lose. Period. Okay,
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I'm sorry, Bob, that's my take. I'm still rad with that,
But you damn show we did directions.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I don't. I think he was over prepared too. They're
trying to come through with things like he had jet leg.
He hadn't, he's been he's been in camp, David studied
like stupid excuses like let them go. The only thing
that Americans really need to know, and I think that
we would find out one way or the other, whether
he wanted to or not, is whether Biden's health Was
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this an episode or was this a condition? He just
had a full physical that he passed with flying colors
in February. I am sure that doctor O'Connor would have
had to turn him into somebody if he felt that
that there was any type of dementia. I'm sure of it. So,
you know, the press asking to see medical records, ask
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him to speak to his doctor. They, I guess they've
never heard of hippop. All he used to do is
be transparent. The other one is bragging about the cognitive
that he was forced to take. Did you see it?
Because I never saw the results claim? You know. And
it's the loyalty I'm disappointed with because they're saying forty
percent of the people who voted for Biden lost time
are field that he should step down. But it's not
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that easy. Your representative Rocanna who I think we're going
to see big things from over the next ten years
between him and Newsom. Was on Chris Palmer the other
day and Chris sought a called for it, you know,
well you didn't have primaries, and Roe shut that down,
and I think Chris appreciated getting the knowledge. He said
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nobody didn't have primaries. He said. The problem was when
any of the people that were going to compete, let's
just use Gavin Newsom. But that's not what he wasn't
talking about. He said, when they pulled the poll numbers
and they did all their due diligence to see if
they had a shot and howl of winning, they didn't,
so they didn't waste their time, their money, their effort.
There was no one to go up against Biden for
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whatever reason. So it's not that we didn't have a primary.
And is it going to get me better if they
say that I'm president Harris's polls or her appool rate,
he's even worse. But nobody also is that I'm super frustrated.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
This is like, it's like setting me off because it
was painful to me.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I hated.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
The whole thing is there are two parts of a debate.
There's there's they call it. One piece is called rhetoric.
It's the speech that you say the way that you
say it, and argumentation. So Trump had the rhetoric because
he sounded strong. There was no argument, and I'll tell
you Joe was struggling with the argument too. That's when
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you build a case. He said that Joe's economy was bad,
so Biden should have come back and said it wasn't bad.
I have this percent, this, this, this, all of his
wonderful things that he's done. Trump was awful. So why
people aren't looking at that, I don't know, and I
am so people believe.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
People believe the supersede controversy supersedes the truth. And Trump
is he's entertaining. Bobby, he's compelling. Can't if you don't
know who you are. Let me say this with conviction,
if you don't know who you are as a human being,
he will reel you in like a piece of meat
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and open a piece with blood bleeding out for the sharks.
Because he is. He is captivating the way he did.
He's hilarious, but he's entertaining, and this country wants to
be entertaining, as opposed to reading the firing Prince. He's
the fan print, gonna get you all caught up.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
He's a buffoon. I don't want to be entertained. I
don't want to be entertained anymore. Rokanna used a quote
that came from my four time mayor, Kevin White back
in seventy nine. Was speaking to a bunch of press,
and he said, and he was saying. Rocanna was saying
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this between Biden and former President Trump, don't compare me
to the almighty, compare me to the alternative. And he's saying,
if we don't have if you don't don't like Biden,
then you're voting for Trump because there's no way in
the short time to get somebody in there that that
they can get up to speed and that can beat Trump.
It's not the Trump is so great, it's that we
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have to get used to the fact that that somebody knew.
So I mean, alarm bells are ringing for everybody. I'm
not saying that, and they should be. They desperately need
to get Joe out. I don't know why they've had
him in the back room.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And he's showing such fear from the Democratic Party. We
are at the race. If you wanted to switch Joe out,
you should have thought about this two years ago, a
year ago, hell, the beginning of the year. But now
we are at the finish line, and he has been
Trump in the past. Yes he's feeble and shaky, but
if we're going to do a comparison, so was Ronald
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Reagan the last his last turn. But we didn't have
social media, we didn't have so much intrusion into seed.
They on a day to day to day and they
might paint have because you see him all over everywhere,
because the media is everywhere. So that's the difference because
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and the truth be told, Biten is sharp. But then
then then that Ronald Reagan, would y'all just.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Think fear it? So here's the really strange thing. He
spoke an hour later or an hour and a half later.
I don't know if it was campaign Funday. People are
screaming about that. Well, why is he still kept coming
up with money because even if it's not him, he
still has to raise money for the next guy. But
he was shocked. He said he had a bad time.
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He said, I'm old, I'm this, I'm not He said
it the he said it. The next day he had
he had a rally and he said, which I always loved,
this is this is Joe Biden in a nutshell. He said,
you know what when they're when you're knocked down, and
he knocked him out, his own own self down. He said,
that's not that's not the dividing factor. It's how you
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get back up. It's if you jump back up and
you keep moving and he did so. I think his people,
I don't know who's advising them. I don't know if
they're doing a bad you know, we never hear that stuff.
We'll hear it ten years the historians will say it.
But he needs to either do some town halls, have
a back and forth with the press, you know, give
him a finite time, ten minutes. He needs, he needs interviews.
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We need to get here himself. I said that this
next week is going to be critical, critical for his campaign.
We need to get more surrogates out there.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, I'm gonna say this, Bobby. I strongly believe, and
I know it looks very dark, but there's always uh,
there's always.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
The life before the dawn.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, I do. I strongly believe that Joe Biden is
going to prevail. And I'm going to say this publicly
because I believe because I work with Bobby Clifford, and
Bobbie Clifford is a white woman. And I'm not saying
that to say I'm looking at Bobby as a white woman,
but she is a fucking white woman. Whatever I am,
she's a white woman. And I think that white women
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are going to be saw fit with the sexism that's
coming from the gopis and understand that they are the
ones that's on the land. We already know all the
other women are and there some of their eys a
second class. But when you're white queens, because that's what
you are to you, to your white me, and you're
their white queens or you should be, are going to
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get so frustrated with the rhetoric and the bs and
the disrespect because what is showing is disrespect. I used
to have respect for the Republican Party. I can't respect
this Republican Party because they're allowing they allowing all this foolishness.
They used to have a backbone as far as integrity
and truth, and they wanted the best for a maybe
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they wanted you to work, they didn't want to give
you a were fra. But you never wanted to give
people a fair opportunity. This is beyond unfair. This is
almost dumb for you guys to see such a brilliant party, y'all.
The Republicans, I believe are a brilliant party because they're
still Americans. But well, but not this, not this group, well, no,
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not the not the far people.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I mean, we need, we need, we need more for Joe.
I started to say we needed surrogates. We need like
Buddhagees get out there and start talking about the infrastructure
and the changes that it made. We need Senator Warren
to get out there about student debt. Secretary Rimondo, I
think is her name. She's the commerce person. She needs
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to talk about the manufacturing they brought up, brought out
and Harris has to go over after Trump every waking
moment of the day. And then and I don't mean
this as a slam because I do like Koreine John
Paul Pierre. I keep calling her Jump Paul the press secretary,
but we need someone stronger. She looks like she's playing
a dodgeball game at the last few things she is
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giving in kind of talking like well, no, that's not appropriate.
We need someone you know, like no, we're not talking
about that, that's not it and shutting that ship down.
I hope they want to see his medical records. I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
It's damn movie. I want I want to fight you
right now, Bobby Clifford. I want to fight you for
for I can't even disagree with you, because I can't.
I don't dislike her the woman, but I don't like
the position that she has. I don't think has the
authoritative voice. I don't think that she has the capacity
to shut it down like you stop. And as much
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as we did not like all the last that that's
funny looking at Sarah Hunkerby Fanders shoved to you. She
was impenetrable. That bitch was a wall.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
She looked like she looked like good gosh, but couldn't
have if she didn't want to go down whatever road you.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Was taking her. She immediately went to somewhere else. And
I think that.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Was the first press secretary under Biden, wasn't it. Isn't
it how you say her name? Patacky?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, she was shut it down. No move, it's not productive.
This conversation is from productive. Let's continue on.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I'm gonna say this, and I know I'm gonna get
my ass handed to me for this, but I think
that in Karren's all mine. And I don't know this woman,
but I think because not only is she a black woman,
but she's openly gay, and she's in such a hobby
she may even have fears of I don't want to
overset my balance because as a black person still in
this country, in twenty twenty four, and I'm speaking from
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a black person's respective. There is some shit that is
still off limits to us to say and or do.
And that's just the truth.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
And I feel badly about that. But what I'm gonna
say about that is if.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
She wants a job in six months, well wait, wait
a minute, boy, because you just brought up the point
I was gonna say, thank you for saying that. Do
you think the reason Sanders and Warren and Boudajets has
not spoken up? And I think that in June Budade
did Boudajets did a great disservice to the community because
that was his time to shine. It was Pride month.
He's openly gay, he has a husband and children. That
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was your time to really push to the gay community
how much Biden sees us, understands us, and allows us
to be free in this country. But you did not.
I think you dropped the ball with it personally. And
do you think they are afraid to speak up against
Trump because they are in fear that if Trump wins,
he already if you go after me, I'm going to
get your ass. He first afraid that he's gonna come
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with Revine woke up.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I mean, what was what was the first thing he
did when he got in in twenty sixteen? What what
what website?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Shut down the LGBT day one? He came down day
one down?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
What was? What did President Biden do day one that
he got in?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Hosted right back up?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yep, that's it. I mean, I own I'm with you
with something to with with loyalty. We have Texas Democratic
rap Lloyd Dodget and Arizona's wrap rabul Oh god resolvo.
I'm probably killing his name. They spoke out a turn
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as far as I'm concerned. They both came out publicly
and said that Biden needs to shut down. If you
need to speak with Biden personally, go do that. Tell
them I'm coming out with this. Somebody would give you
a phone call. You don't come out and say that.
You see that inside with your own party. Do you
think Charles people are doing that? No, the GOP steps
in line and they fall back.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah. I think they're all petrified. Bobby. We lost the
We had a hulk in a Democratic party. Nothing here
was the hawk. We had a hulk. But y'all attack
that woman's husband and she's all he's a seasoned woman,
and y'all scared that woman. I believe that Nancy Pelosi
was our hulk. You couldn't shake her. She didn't back down.
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She stood on principle, and she stood on what this
country is supposed to be, which is a democracy. But
they did what they needed to do to get rid
of her. I don't know this new party. They all
seem like what's is Bobby. Everybody's so favot and afraid.
And I get the fear of Trump, especially if you're
trying to have a political career and you're trying to
further and you think that if he gets in office,
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you are in trouble. You're still going to be in
trouble because you will always owe your lips to his artists.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, I don't get it. I mean she I think
that Nancy wanted the leadership role and all that comes
with it, as much as President Biden probably actually wants
to run for president. Right now, they're both of a
certain age. It's time to sit back and relax, write
their memoirs, make a gazillion dollars that they can pass
down to their family instead their working tirelessly morning, noon
and night. I mean his family is supporting him, which
(25:35):
I actually love. And people are getting there getting their
chops in to Hunter Biden like he's ever made a
good decision in his life. You know, they just I mean,
the wax don't keep coming for this family. The things
that we have to worry about. He's already had one
fundraiser that was canceled in California. The money. We got
to keep the donors happy. We've got to keep the
unions happy. These are all people that Joe needs, and
(25:58):
we better buck up. I was going to say something else,
but I don't want to. I don't want to be
a potty mouth. We're going to figure it out because.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Now you don't want to. Now you don't want to
be a party mouth. Ladies, you know, I don't want people.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I don't want people hearing me. So I know, I'm curious.
The only thing that made me happy this week, the
only thing that I kind of half smiled, although it
doesn't really make a difference because he's an old man,
is Giuliani got discarred.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Oh I say, uh, fad words, what took them so long?
Good guys, right right exactly?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
For I know, And Bannon went to Bannon went to
jail finally for his four months. Trump is screaming that
it should have been Biden, that should have been going.
And the meantime another people listen up. Now, not only Louisiana,
but Oklahoma. They are insisting that the Ten Commandments be
displayed within the within the schools, and that the Bible
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should be taught. I do agree with one statement they made.
Oklahoma school said, it's a historical document. It should be
it should be taught if you go about it actually
in that way, because it is a historical document, and
you don't jam it down someone's throw you just say
like it's the history book. You open it up. But
of course I want all history, all of American history taught.
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Then I'm not as outraged. But our forefathers started this
country back in the sixteen hundreds as a separation of
church and state. This, this goes against the absolute fundamental
of what our country is built on.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
You just opened up a can of worms in my
head when you say it. What was the topic you said?
You just say it to church and state. The history
is a historical document. That do you Now you just
start a conspiracy theory in my head. I'm just speaking
this is not on topic. It's on topic, but it's help.
It's not on paper. Is that? Why? Is that why
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Trump was selling bibles? Is that is going to be
the new technique that they're going to use, which is
a very old technice because we could read you have
to buy.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
His Bible's blame. That's that's what it will be. He'll
make the schools out by Jill, I'll have to buy
his bibles.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
It's all about it's all about a dollar. Because remember
he was pushing the bibles. This is the same one
who want to read the past press conference but you
read scripture. Yeah, you bad as Joe Osting because Joe
Osting has the same message every week. My father went
to be with the Lord. I was like, you only
dad one time? According to your show, he did about
twelve Wickham.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I mean. And this is the other thing that's a
want want this week is it's the second anniversary of
the Dobbs decision. Right of Rob's waybying called back people.
This is the type of stuff and they're not going
to just start with the preventative stuff. It'll end up
being IVF. It'll end up being they'll start sterilizing people.
If they're depressed, you know, way back in the olden days.
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They're going to start going back to that. That is
what Project twenty twenty five is about. Pay attention. People
look at it. Do a little reading instead of picking
up the S magazine at the at the checkout stand.
Do a little reading that way. And I'm sorry, I'm
not trying to be snarky something I do well, I know,
but I'm trying to pretend to that that's.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
What they understand. So please be snarky. The nice we
just talked about Karee Stepan's the nice they don't hear.
Trump was not nice. He lied and he wasn't nice.
But y'all heard everything he said. You just act like
you did, Okay, So please be snarky. It works.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I didn't see Robert Kennedy. Robert Kennedy, as we know,
did not make the numbers to get on to the stage.
I actually would have maybe that would have helped, you
would have been a buffer. But he's he went on
News Nation as the post debate coverage, and I didn't
see his take. I would have been very interested to
see what his take was, but I didn't, so I
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I don't know if anybody out there give us a little,
a little snapshot. If you did, well, let me you this.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I interviewed Robert Kennedy Friday before last. It's on Andrew
Stanton Kings were waiting on her to release it, and
I told you he changed my views about him in
such a pleasant way. He was and his voice was
a little not shaky with his nervous But he has
some kind of dystonia.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It's yeah, it's just a condition that makes it sound like.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
It's My question is, had he been on the debate,
would y'all have thought something was wrong with him? Because
he spoke very intelligent to me, even though his voice
was a little weird. So but y'all had thought the
same thing about him. That is my y'all, because we
are so visual as a nation now stupidity. Good God,
let me let me. I'm getting frustrated. I almost took
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my brows.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
From the love of God. Are you gonna be a
bride burner? I have to, but I'd have to put
something on my ankles to protect them from my boom
setting them.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
But he's like he's either a hard yale, he's a
very bright man. You educated, Yes, He's.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
A very bright man. I loved you. I loved his policies.
I loved what he was coming at it because I
was not for him before that. But when I spoke
to him personally and I asked him, what were you
going to do for the American people? What would you
do for the LGBT commentity? Do you see me as
a black person? Questions like that? And Bobby gave me
the questions. He was he was, he was direct, he
was brutally honest. And I'm a great judge of character.
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I can tell when you shit me because I'm a
great shitter. Did that come out right? But I can,
I can smell it. That's that July cancer birthday is
in eleven days, by the way, y'all. And uh, I
never got that from him. I got genuine cared about
the people and his legacy because in his in his
lineage is Kennedy, that is American royalty in politics. I
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asked him, do you ever think that you be as
loved as your dad or as your uncle? And he says,
I would hope to be, but I will work to
try to be. That's what you want, somebody with a
plan and somebody who sees you somebody who is iron hard.
I'm still a Biden, been in politics fifty years. He
and his sharpe's his words. I'm not I'm an old man.
I'm not moving like the way. I don't debate the
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same way I want to. But I tell the truth,
and I'm telling you right now as soon did y'all
start letting his shoots peek back through the through the curtain,
because y'all have lived in a super superstitis, super sensation
of bullshit so long. We're going to be a better
place and he is a better place for us right now.
A good guy, that's scary.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
He's got a very busy week. Today he was meeting
with the governors, the Democratic governors. I know Harris was
in there. I think it was going to be kind
of like a rah rah speech, and I think he
was shutting the shit down that he's actually getting out,
getting out, you know. I think they were coming in
with that and he's closing it down. I know that
Friday he is going to be in Wisconsin. He also
Friday evening, I believe, is doing an interview with George Stephanopolos,
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and he's he's in Philly on Sunday, and then he's
going to have a press conference next week with NATO.
So I'm hoping to Jesus all of those events go
well and he doesn't get in his own head and
make the situation worse.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, let me tell you something. I said this on
coffee time. You can hope all you won't you, but
hope and vote and pray of course, but hope and
vote because hoping and voting goes hand in hand. All
that hoping and you didn't go vote. When you say
your one vote don't count, this is the one time
that those words will bite you in your ass. Your vote,
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your one vote does count. Because they're gonna be watching
this and it's gonna be complaints anyway. It's gonna be period.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
We won't find out till the end of December in
the new year, before we probably find out who actually
is the president, they're gonna be counting everything. So every
single individual, and if you live in a swing state,
please Jesus get out and vote and vote for you know,
I nobody called him so the four I wasn't crazy
(33:58):
over the format the debate. With the debate format, I
liked that in the beginning I mentioned it last week
that I sort of liked that they were wasn't going
to be an audience for Trump to pander too well,
he has an audience in his own head, so he
didn't really need anybody. I believe that the CNN did
not want to do fact checking or shut anything down
because they didn't want to seem like they were biased
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over one candidate over another candidate. But the lies he
told and he just kept going, and he just kept going.
I just think half of it it really needed to
be It really needed to be shut down. So I
was super disappointed with that. Let's hope that he does.
I don't even know. Tidam Me says Trump won't even
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bother to show up the next time. But then the
other part of me, he loves to get in front
of a group of people, so he probably will. I
hope that Joe does better, he does not get all
in his head and the next week goes goes well.
He's got a lot of knocks on on poor Jo.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Problem with all of it, Bobbi is just there is
no loyalty. Yes, he's an we knew he was old
member fifty years of experienced ship. I'm goin to say
the word fifty years of experienced. Trump's Trump.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Trump has no political experience. He is a businessman, y'all
can saying he failed, but he has won at selling
us because he sold the ship out of this country allegedly.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Do we think he's a terrific businessman? This is a
This is a man. I believe that's the number is
six times he claimed bankruptcy, So I don't know, you know,
and I feel badly it happens once or twice, but six.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
To the law. I said, y'all say he a terrific
I said you, I say he was a terrific businessman.
I think he's the biggest scammer ever period my point
of view. But it's working, and it's working for him,
because again, if you don't know who you are as
a person, you will fall for the oki do career fast,
and a lot of y'all is shameful. It's shameful that
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you see exactly what we see. And we ain't even
talking about the racism, or we ain't talking about the sexism,
but the corruption and the lies. And it was never
good enough to be a part of your family, It
was never good enough to get the job that they
wanted because they had a crime. But now y'all letting
somebody who got thirty four convictions. These ain't indictments, these
ain't charging just pending. These ain't we we haven't found
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you guilty. Now he's been found guilty, y'all allowing him
to be the president? Young When did y'all lower y'all
standards and didn't tell us? Because according to us, y'all
standards still high except for the person that you want
them to be low for. Ooh did I say that?
Come on, Bobby, let's go oh, well.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Speaking of found guilty, So let's let's move on. Scotus.
The Supreme Court, they've been busy bees this week and
one of the things.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
That they have speaking of lowering standards, please, well.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
You know what, So what we have to remember about
you have to go back to you your history classes
when you were in I can't even say high school
it was really lower. Is that the Supreme Court is
set up for all we're never supposed to know anybody's
anybody's political affiliation and what they think. This whole week
has been nothing about but decisions along party lines. And
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let's just remember remind people there are six Republican appointed justices,
three Democrats, and that's how it sort of rolled. So
the community case came up. I wasn't really surprised by this,
but I was very disappointed. They the justices, right along
party lines, all said that presidents do have immunity two
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for official acts versus non official. And that's the hokey doke,
that's the murky wicked area. But it's going to affect
President Trump in his upcoming cases, which is sort of disappointing.
So he sent the I'm thinking Chief Justice Roberts sent
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back the decision for that Judge Mersham was looking at
and he wants him to go through and he wants
him to see hallo dexter. He wants him to see
what acts our official versus non official. So they have
moved it is no longer from July eleventh, the sentencing.
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They've moved it to September eighteenth, and a couple of
talking heads believe it or not, have said that that's
not necessarily a bad thing. They think if it was closer,
he might have raised more money because people would pity him.
But super super disappointing Justice wrote that president should have
an absolute immunity when exercising their constitutional powers.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
But what is that?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Sonya sought a mayor. She dissented, Actually all three Democrats dissented,
and she said that, you know, like, when does it start.
If the president orders Navy Seals Team six to assassinate
a political rival. She says, he'll be immune if they
organize a military cup to hold on to power. He'll
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be immune if he takes a bribe in exchange for
a pardon, immune immune, immune immune. She was beside herself.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
If the Democratic Party played their cars right, they can
use this immunity, this immunity case to make it by
Trump and his ass But if they play their cars right,
that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Well, I think so what they they ultimately did is
they're sending everything back down to the appellate courts. They
really don't want to be dealing with any of the stuff.
So we'll see what Merchant has. Jack Smith's case, they say,
you know, everything is going to get pushed so pushed
out anyway. He's going to have to look. He still
feels he has a solid case regardless. So we're gonna see,
We're gonna see, Actually what happens. Trump is trying to
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throw out the case in New York because one of
the people that actually testified was that is her name,
Hope Hicks or Hickey or something about some of the
pot He informed her that some of this the hush
funny case was going to be coming down blah blah blah.
And they said that that one conversation could could be
considered official. But that was only one conversation. They built
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a case around a million of the things.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
If I was a Democratic Supreme Court justice, I would
be petrified of him getting back in office because if
he becomes a dictator that he wants to be, no job,
you don't have no tenure, He will fire you the
same day.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, well that's the thing they actually kind. So it's
funny AOC now from the squad. Actually it's only happened
in eighteen oh five. She wants to have them impeached,
she wants to have them removed. I don't know if
she has the standing for it, but but she's she's
thrown it out there. So yeah, and the Washington Poster
(40:56):
has reported that the DJ is still going to continue
with their their case even if it's it's past the
November date. So he's going to go off to the
convention and he's not going to have to worry about
being sentenced. That's just that's just, you know, one piece.
But Biden was equally kind of outraged. He handled it
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like I would expect a president. He said, I do
not have that type of power. We're going to now
have to rely on the integrity. Basically I'm paraphrasing because
I can't think of what he actually said. It almost
certainly means there'll be virtually no limits to what a
president can do, and he doesn't feel that. You know,
that's why he's a president.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Including including leave after his four years because he didn't
want to leave. The first time has he ever has
he ever conceded even to this day.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Three times during that debate, three times he was asked
would he accept the accept the results? He deflected once
he came out and said no, unmust Basically, he's not
going to believe them. They have to be honest, they
have to be.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
They have to be what he wants.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
That's exactly That's exactly it. And they did have a
few other a few other things. They gave Biden a
practical victory. Uh the rejectee. They rejected the Republican challenge
over the whole social media thing. You know, social media platforms,
the control of what they can have and what they
have to put up because they feel like they're they're
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holding out against conservative values. And they said, well, they
just didn't want to hand the case. It was like
it wasn't you know, kind of moving along. Something else
that goes the hand in hand with Trump is they
found that the dj overstepped the January sixth how how
the people were were held accountable. They they felt that
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obstruction is as a more narrow scope than what they
were convicted for. So you know, that's going to open
a whole can of worms there.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I'm having a Joe Biden moment. By the way, did
we talk about do we talk about Biden's shaky against
Ronald Reagan's while we were on live or did we
do that before we started taking I.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Think we did it before we were shot Japan, because.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
I want I want you guys to understand that. And
when y'all say that Biden is shaky and what he is,
he's an old man, he gets tongue tied because he
had he had studied his entire life. He's also been
in service and y'all want to say that his man
ain't there, but his man is sharp. He makes great decisions.
The reason y'all at him so hard, and y'all wasn't
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there Ronald Reagan when he was going through his whole
dimension during his second term was because of social media
and the media. We are so much more We are
so much more fortunate now against and unfortunate to be
able to look into people's living rooms and look into
people's daily lives and be able to see what they're doing.
You can't even poot now without big Brother watching. We
see Biden's slow for digression or progression and to get
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as getting older. We did not see Ronald Reagan because
we were not privy to so much stuff that we
are privy to now, especially with social media. That is
the difference. And Biden had Biden has his wits about him,
but Reagan had a strong cabinet, which I said on
the Breakfastleven Juness, Biden has a strong cabinet standing behind him.
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We will be okay. He just would be the face
of our leader, but we'll have a lot of other
people making the decisions of who our leader really is.
So I need y'all to stand together and band together.
I want to make that because I think y'all don't.
I think people forget that because you wasn't around during
the Reagan era or you were, you know, you didn't
pay attention to politics, but you were so much more
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privy to see now than what you could see then
because you you only saw Reagan if it was a
press conference, and y'all, they could have told him what words.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
He shuffled out at the end and he was only
in his seventies. He kind of movedton as he came out. Yeah, no,
it's you've gotta do something. And I feel like these
these two guys that are coming out against Biden, the
Texas and the Arizona reps, you know, they have to
look at themselves when when they're up for reelection and
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it's going to be what they accomplished. They're probably worried
that they're not going to get they're not going to
get voted back in. But if they were strong within
their area and they actually did the work. I mean, remember,
this is the do the least amount of anything Congress
and Senate that we have had in history. So that's
on them, that's not in President Biden, but they the
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Scotus also pause the environmental remember the Good Neighbor Act
with the smoke stacks and stuff, so that people didn't
get polluted. They kind of put that on pause for
right now. The Chevron and National Resource Defense that that's
a they shut down that whole president so that that
was sort of disappointing. They did then the oxyconton the
(46:03):
Purdue Pharma Opaoid settlement. They didn't vote to protect the
owners of it, which was a little the Sacklo family,
So that was that wasn't so bad, probably because it's
i mean, between that and fentanyl, you know, the world
is kind of has kind of been been a hot mess.
The other thing that they are I'm not going to
(46:24):
say they're siding with the Bide administration, but they're temporarily
allowing emergency abortions in Idaho because that was a whole
thing when the mother is mother's at risk. So that
was sort of good. They something that's sort of sad.
I think it's just like immigration. I think that unentomed people,
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that's a that's a huge opportunity, and they are allowing
Oregon to punish the homeless that we're living in the
parks and I and I have to say, I feel
a certain way about that. I feel terrible for the people,
but let's put them somewhere. But I also think that
if you were with your three little children and going
into a park, you shouldn't have to be beaten off.
Because a lot of these people are mentally ill or
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you know, they have drug issues, you shouldn't have to
be beating them off.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
So it is, and it is, and it's very scary, y'all.
And I'm telling y'all, I'm with y'all on so many
different levels of fear and anger and outrage and what
I want. But hoping is no good without voting. And
I'm telling you now that your vote matters, and it
is critical that we stand together as a nation, especially
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if you're black and brown descent, hell, if you have
white descent. If you care and have dignity about who
you are as an American citizen, I don't do a
damn what nationality you are, what what race, creed, or color.
I don't care about your religion, because he will have
control of everything. You're not.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
You're not hearing us.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
When I tell you the Department of Education gone, the
FBI gone, iest gone.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Pollution and climate.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
You have Marshall law rampage. The police will be able
to They already get away with it in our face.
Now they can get away with it just for sport.
Understand that they will have competitions that work. I killed
twenty agents today, Tomorrow you got to be my record
back killing twenty five or I kill fifty black people.
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They will do shit like that and we won't have
nothing to say because we don't have nobody standing for us,
with us or buy us. Make the decision in your
own heart and spirit, even if it is bite. You
have to bite your tongue and close your eyes and
hold your nose to do it. And vote your bike
because you're voting for yourself. That's my piece. What you
got body the.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Only other thing I'm going to have. Just because you
were talking about the cops, I had read it and
I thought it was a little interesting. I want we
want to give the US Marshals props. They have been
out in a six week operation to recover missing children, runaways,
people who are brought into trafficking, and they found in
a six week period two hundred missing children over this
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year to date. As of July, the third, five hundred
and forty six kids were found and either placed back
with their families or placed in a different situation. Last
year they recovered nine hundred and fifty kids. So these
are cops who are doing the right thing and trying
to get these kids off the stream. And I thought
that was pretty great.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
We still have great people out here, y'all, we really do.
They're just being superseded by all these clowns and all
this foolishness. Make the decision, do the right thing, do
the right thing for you. But if you want to
save the country and you undecided and you're not sure,
or you are a Republican, that won't sustain ry Republicans,
but you don't you're not happy with this Republican party,
then against your against your partisanship, but you'll work for
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your better judgment as a human and as an American.
Vote for Biden. Save yourself, because if it hits us,
it's going to hit you. It may not hit you
the same way it hits us, but it will hit
you and you will not like it. All right.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
The old man versus the bad Man's versus.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
The Orange mayor the Orange July liar liar pants on fire. Baby,
if his pants got on fire and we saw them
tidy white, he's burning, that would tackle the shit out
of me. Oh my god, I.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Wouldn't want to smell it. According to the people that
had to stand behind him in conch, oh my him
skid knocks on him. He does love shing.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
I guess that's all. I'm big Max. You know he
loves McDonald's yuck. Okay, and if he liked me, look
if he liked fake meat, but he loved real money.
He definitely don't want yours this lady. I don't thank
you guys so much for joining us here at laughing.
I remember. I will be in Atlanta, Georgia on July
nineteenth and twentieth at Uptown Comedy Club. Get your tickets
at the box office at the website, along with Sherwin
(50:43):
Array and a Sham and Franklin. We're gonna have a
fantastic time. I got some shit to talk about, y'all.
Come see how pretty I'm look at how much shit
I'm gonna talk. And I love Atlanta and I love Uptown,
So catch me in Atlanta. D in and oh. The
premiere came out for the movie We Got Ours Today
even though I'm not there, I will be miss they
missed me. I miss them too, but I missed that traffic.
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Good God. Happy fourth of July, Happy Independent Day. I
know some of you guys celebrated, some of you don't.
And in my old words are what I always said,
it's a part of my history. You cannot erase the
happiness of my history. Yep. We know about Juneteenth now,
and we also know that Independence Day was different from
very different cultures, but a lot of holidays was. But
in my youth it was a happiness for me. So
(51:25):
I'm gonna remember the happiness because it's much easier to
remember the happiness than it is to remember the sadness.
So happy fourth of July. I hope you guys are
barbecuing and doing your fireworks. Please be safe. Don't have
no kids around them. Damn fireworks. No sprinklers or sparkles
or nothing. The most they can have is over those
little pop things that you throw on the ground in
they pop.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Give your dogs some CBD too, if you got dogs
that are nervous.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Oh, I'm Timmy gonna take two bit of drills, because
Timmy be over here is shaking like a leaf. Good.
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Speaker 2 (53:26):
Why, Bobby is, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
And a vote is the even worse one. Hope and vote,
ladies and gentlemen, and then pray, hope and vote, and
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
Come in with last and come in with him love loundes. Baby,
you better catch it when you can drop a knowledge
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What's up to? Yeah? You know she raided shout towns
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cut up and kick it and at the end we
leave it with just a lifted spirits. Did you want
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it's lip oh folking, we dig it. Hey, no this
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Speaker 1 (01:14):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
This do what you do?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Ha, No this do what I do? No? Hey, hey, hey,
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this is comedian Flame Monroe and welcome to this week's
episode of Laugh and Learn. Ladies and gentlemen. We are
so glad to be back. It has been such an
exciting week in politudes going on with the news and
I miss you guys. Hire your tutz hi a tutz
how's it going? Everything is going? Find if you don't
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a learnt and we always love new subscribers. Then that
is my beautiful co host, Bobby Clifferck, especially or to
the regular fame that she's known as Miss cot because
she's she's Irish, Catholic American and she lives in Boston,
so you know, it's all kinds of accents going on
over there. Anyway, how was everything, Bobby? How was everything?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
It's been a rough week, which we're going to get into.
I'm okay personally, everybody's doing okay. It's it's I don't
even want to turn the TV on.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well, we're going to get into the polities. Let me
tell y'all about my week. First of all, Whens. Last
Wednesday night, I opened for Tiffany Hatis here at the
Lone Beach laugh Actor. Y'all know my history at the
laugh Factor right now. But Tiffany asked me to do
it and we had a great show, Yes, she and
I and and then the next morning I fell up
to Chicago and I did Urban Pride. I hosted a
(02:53):
fashion show and then I hosted a show at the
Park and Jackson Parks for Urban Pride. Thank you to
the Urban Pride Committee. Treated True Love Ken Beach. I
co hosted with my guy oldis smack uh.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
It was.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It was such a wonderful pride celebration. And when I
say that, I'm a part of the LGBT community, even
as ostracized and sometimes I feel but I love to
see my age demographic. A few younger people that hung
out with us, loving on each other, showing what pride
really is supposed to be about. We were barbecuing, They
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had the street vendors, they had the sponsors who was
giving our literature for mental health, mental care, health care, condoms,
HIV testing, just so many people barbecuing. Everybody was playing
come get one of my ribs. I'm like, oh, let
me see what you your setup looked like, because if
your hands don't look clean, I ain't need your reel.
But it was the camaraderie of everybody being so wonderful
(03:48):
toy to the other. And then they had these kids there.
These were dancing girl groups that were so good. They
thought I was thought. They said, can we take a
picture what you have? I said, sure that you so
if you go to my Instagram, Paige that marbo Fa,
you could see a picture of me with one of
the groups. They were the sweetest little girls. I encouraged
those little girls and told them stay and keep going,
(04:10):
stay on stage. Find this is such positive because what
it taught, what it teaches as a parent. It teaches
your children's sportsmanship, It teaches them teamworkmates, the dream work.
It teaches them camaraderie, and it teaches them how to
work with other people. You're not always the star. Somebody
else was shying here and you might shine there. But
you also know if they're in those rehearsals, and if
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they're in those practices, they're not on the internet, and
they're not into bullying mess. They're in rehearsal to learn.
And they were all very very good. So hats off
to those parents and to those young ladies who dad
stay bus off too. Good. God, they was jumping over
in the air, Bobby and doing the dem drop all
on their back. Every time one of them did it.
Mind you, we were on a wood, the surface was
wood on the stage. Girl, My back hurt. For all
(04:53):
of them. I had to go take an average prof
good God, I was scared to damn.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
They never felt a thing at that age. You didn't
remember that crazy stuff you used to do.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But it was so amazing. So I came home Monday,
and today I'm actually supposed to be at my premiere
because the premiere came out of We Got Ours, the
movie that I was in. But it's just it was
impossible to get there with with everything going on. But
I am here with my flames, with my Bobby, because
(05:24):
with my producer, mister Aaron Howard, and we are glad
to be here. Now we're about to get into it,
and I'm gonna get I want to talk about no
other stuff going on in the news, but politics. What
we did not give you guys that we're going to
start off with. And it's not even on Bobby's schedule,
but we're going to start off with the recap of
last week's debate because we were supposed to do it,
but I was in Chicago and I was stilling myself
(05:44):
and I didn't want to talk. I'll let Bobby go second.
I'm gonna just gonna give my my analogy or my
synopsis of how I felt about the debate.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Can I asked you one question before you get into it,
because I want it. I sort of want to out
June with something that's positive. And I'm really I'm sorry.
I'm interrupting you a sorry, come on, Well, so Pride,
because you were talking about Pride Month is over and
something that for all our our people who think that
Joe is sleepy and he's this and he's not the
(06:17):
one thing that he did do and he ended Pride
Month with is he pardoned potentially thousands of ex service
members that were convicted under the Uniform Code of Military
Justice Article one twenty five, which criminalized sootomy these people
were put out of their jobs, they lost all of
their benefits. He is trying to write a historic wrong
(06:37):
and this is clearing the way for them to go
back and get their benefits retro. So I just thought
it was a great way to end our Pride months
that you were just talking about, And thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
That was wonderful And this is what I'm talking about.
That was perfect segue into where I'm going to go
with this is how I feel about about the debate.
Do you see that this man sees you? Do you
hear that this man understands who you are as a person,
not your sexuality, not your color. He is not perfect. Yes,
in ninety four he he sided that bills, that Crinsville Act.
(07:12):
But this is not ninety four. And he has mended
his ways and he has fixed suit loans. And they
always talk about the nigga that he owed.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
He's slow.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
He got this coombobulated. Haven't you had a bad day
at your job before? Haven't you had an off day?
And you've been doing this job for fifty He has
been doing this job for fifty years. Not the presidency,
but he has been in service to this country for
fifty years, for better or for worse. So the experience
is there, because I'll be damned if I, as an
experienced person, is going to come in. I've been working
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on his job on the assembly line for twenty years.
I'm the supervisor. And some kid goes to college and
get their master's degree, and they have the degree, they
have those skills. But I have been working at your
company for twenty years. You want me to train this
kid to be my boss? Bullshit, bullshit. I would never
do that. What I will do teach this kid, and
if you get on my nerves, I'm gonna let this
(08:03):
kid go cold turkey because they will teach you how
to run this machine, but they won't give you the
experience of the hiccups, the hiccups, will say, y'all because
we're losing jobs day by day. Amazon just laid off
a whole bunch of people and hire robots. I need
you off to be paying attention to all of this.
So y'all gonna let three years of presidency of good
(08:23):
service because this man has did a whole lot for
this country and economy is jacked up because he was
handed the jack of economy for one hour debate that
he had a bad night off of because right after
the debate his mind was there. Have you ever now
never thought that Joe Biden could get nervous a lot
of he already has a stuttering problem. This was probably
the most watched debate in history, so of course he
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was nervous because all eyes was on him and they
were expecting them. And Bobby made a very valid point
to me, because I'm not gonna take credit for this.
Bobby said, you know how you cram in college for
a test and you study study stuch. I think they
get overkilled to Joe. I think they overha with what
he was supposed to say. I'm like, he's been in
this for fifty years, and what we love about Joe
(09:08):
is YO got a quick wit and a fast response.
Sometimes people want to see your sharpness. They don't always
want it to look like it was scripted. But I
will I'm the loyalty is shit in this country one
more time. This might be the name of this this episode.
The loyalty is shit in this country from the Democratic Party.
(09:29):
Stand with Joe. He needs us now more than ever. Yes,
he's old, but he was old when he was the
vice president. He ain't got no damn Benjamin Button juice
or he would have shared it with me. Shit way
at Hope. I mean, you know, you want to be
good in order for him to feel like he is relevant.
He has the power, He is the man. His people
(09:50):
need to stand with him. Yes he's weak right now,
but we should be standing with him to make him strong.
Everybody like rats, you're ready to jump ship because somebody
told you there's a hole in the boat. Fix the
goddamn hole and be loyal, save the boat, save the country. Yes,
he had an off debate, but what he said was
the truth and Trump baited him, and they did that
(10:12):
because Trump speaks with authority. He was seventy five percent lines,
but he speaks with such authority that you clowns and
losers and people who don't know who you are. Listen
to that shit and buy it, because what I'm telling
you what's coming if he fucks up and winning, is
going to be way more scary than you ever know.
There will be no a presidency, there will be no
a lot of stuff. Everything will go by the fall,
(10:34):
by the wayside. That's in the Bible too. Now. I
just want to say I was not happy with I
cringed watching my president at that time, but I kept screaming,
come on, Joe. I was encouraging him from here. I
believe that if we stand together as democratic American citizens
that believe in the democracy of this country, he will
(10:57):
feel our energy. But we can't show him that we're
scared too. We are afraid, God, Devin, we scared to death.
So we have to stand together like monsters, push this machine,
push back to this machine, and keep Joe in office
so that we can say whatever the microcity we can say.
And the Supreme Court is not working with us, and
to me it looks like they all hand in hand
(11:19):
and Trump. Whoever advised Trump when he was the four
year president, they strategically played chess like a motherfucker, because
they have implanted spaces and places that we cannot penetrate
right now. This is why we have to show the
power that we have short up to the post voting Blue.
(11:39):
I know, I know. I hear you. I hear the outcry.
I hear the outrage, I hear the fear, I hear
the he's old. I hear all of those complaints. But
what I don't want to hear is I told you so.
I don't want to hear that. I don't want to
hear that. I want you to understand that if we
lose and Trump gets in, everybody will lose. Period. Okay,
(12:02):
I'm sorry, Bob, that's my take. I'm still rad with that,
But you damn show we did directions.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I don't. I think he was over prepared too. They're
trying to come through with things like he had jet leg.
He hadn't, he's been he's been in camp, David studied
like stupid excuses like let them go. The only thing
that Americans really need to know, and I think that
we would find out one way or the other, whether
he wanted to or not, is whether Biden's health Was
(12:32):
this an episode or was this a condition? He just
had a full physical that he passed with flying colors
in February. I am sure that doctor O'Connor would have
had to turn him into somebody if he felt that
that there was any type of dementia. I'm sure of it. So,
you know, the press asking to see medical records, ask
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him to speak to his doctor. They, I guess they've
never heard of hippop. All he used to do is
be transparent. The other one is bragging about the cognitive
that he was forced to take. Did you see it?
Because I never saw the results claim? You know. And
it's the loyalty I'm disappointed with because they're saying forty
percent of the people who voted for Biden lost time
are field that he should step down. But it's not
(13:15):
that easy. Your representative Rocanna who I think we're going
to see big things from over the next ten years
between him and Newsom. Was on Chris Palmer the other
day and Chris sought a called for it, you know,
well you didn't have primaries, and Roe shut that down,
and I think Chris appreciated getting the knowledge. He said
(13:35):
nobody didn't have primaries. He said. The problem was when
any of the people that were going to compete, let's
just use Gavin Newsom. But that's not what he wasn't
talking about. He said, when they pulled the poll numbers
and they did all their due diligence to see if
they had a shot and howl of winning, they didn't,
so they didn't waste their time, their money, their effort.
There was no one to go up against Biden for
(13:56):
whatever reason. So it's not that we didn't have a primary.
And is it going to get me better if they
say that I'm president Harris's polls or her appool rate,
he's even worse. But nobody also is that I'm super frustrated.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
This is like, it's like setting me off because it
was painful to me.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I hated.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
The whole thing is there are two parts of a debate.
There's there's they call it. One piece is called rhetoric.
It's the speech that you say the way that you
say it, and argumentation. So Trump had the rhetoric because
he sounded strong. There was no argument, and I'll tell
you Joe was struggling with the argument too. That's when
(14:35):
you build a case. He said that Joe's economy was bad,
so Biden should have come back and said it wasn't bad.
I have this percent, this, this, this, all of his
wonderful things that he's done. Trump was awful. So why
people aren't looking at that, I don't know, and I
am so people believe.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
People believe the supersede controversy supersedes the truth. And Trump
is he's entertaining. Bobby, he's compelling. Can't if you don't
know who you are. Let me say this with conviction,
if you don't know who you are as a human being,
he will reel you in like a piece of meat
(15:13):
and open a piece with blood bleeding out for the sharks.
Because he is. He is captivating the way he did.
He's hilarious, but he's entertaining, and this country wants to
be entertaining, as opposed to reading the firing Prince. He's
the fan print, gonna get you all caught up.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
He's a buffoon. I don't want to be entertained. I
don't want to be entertained anymore. Rokanna used a quote
that came from my four time mayor, Kevin White back
in seventy nine. Was speaking to a bunch of press,
and he said, and he was saying. Rocanna was saying
(15:51):
this between Biden and former President Trump, don't compare me
to the almighty, compare me to the alternative. And he's saying,
if we don't have if you don't don't like Biden,
then you're voting for Trump because there's no way in
the short time to get somebody in there that that
they can get up to speed and that can beat Trump.
It's not the Trump is so great, it's that we
(16:12):
have to get used to the fact that that somebody knew.
So I mean, alarm bells are ringing for everybody. I'm
not saying that, and they should be. They desperately need
to get Joe out. I don't know why they've had
him in the back room.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And he's showing such fear from the Democratic Party. We
are at the race. If you wanted to switch Joe out,
you should have thought about this two years ago, a
year ago, hell, the beginning of the year. But now
we are at the finish line, and he has been
Trump in the past. Yes he's feeble and shaky, but
if we're going to do a comparison, so was Ronald
(16:48):
Reagan the last his last turn. But we didn't have
social media, we didn't have so much intrusion into seed.
They on a day to day to day and they
might paint have because you see him all over everywhere,
because the media is everywhere. So that's the difference because
(17:08):
and the truth be told, Biten is sharp. But then
then then that Ronald Reagan, would y'all just.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Think fear it? So here's the really strange thing. He
spoke an hour later or an hour and a half later.
I don't know if it was campaign Funday. People are
screaming about that. Well, why is he still kept coming
up with money because even if it's not him, he
still has to raise money for the next guy. But
he was shocked. He said he had a bad time.
(17:35):
He said, I'm old, I'm this, I'm not He said
it the he said it. The next day he had
he had a rally and he said, which I always loved,
this is this is Joe Biden in a nutshell. He said,
you know what when they're when you're knocked down, and
he knocked him out, his own own self down. He said,
that's not that's not the dividing factor. It's how you
(17:56):
get back up. It's if you jump back up and
you keep moving and he did so. I think his people,
I don't know who's advising them. I don't know if
they're doing a bad you know, we never hear that stuff.
We'll hear it ten years the historians will say it.
But he needs to either do some town halls, have
a back and forth with the press, you know, give
him a finite time, ten minutes. He needs, he needs interviews.
(18:17):
We need to get here himself. I said that this
next week is going to be critical, critical for his campaign.
We need to get more surrogates out there.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, I'm gonna say this, Bobby. I strongly believe, and
I know it looks very dark, but there's always uh,
there's always.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
The life before the dawn.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, I do. I strongly believe that Joe Biden is
going to prevail. And I'm going to say this publicly
because I believe because I work with Bobby Clifford, and
Bobbie Clifford is a white woman. And I'm not saying
that to say I'm looking at Bobby as a white woman,
but she is a fucking white woman. Whatever I am,
she's a white woman. And I think that white women
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are going to be saw fit with the sexism that's
coming from the gopis and understand that they are the
ones that's on the land. We already know all the
other women are and there some of their eys a
second class. But when you're white queens, because that's what
you are to you, to your white me, and you're
their white queens or you should be, are going to
(19:20):
get so frustrated with the rhetoric and the bs and
the disrespect because what is showing is disrespect. I used
to have respect for the Republican Party. I can't respect
this Republican Party because they're allowing they allowing all this foolishness.
They used to have a backbone as far as integrity
and truth, and they wanted the best for a maybe
(19:40):
they wanted you to work, they didn't want to give
you a were fra. But you never wanted to give
people a fair opportunity. This is beyond unfair. This is
almost dumb for you guys to see such a brilliant party, y'all.
The Republicans, I believe are a brilliant party because they're
still Americans. But well, but not this, not this group, well, no,
(20:02):
not the not the far people.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I mean, we need, we need, we need more for Joe.
I started to say we needed surrogates. We need like
Buddhagees get out there and start talking about the infrastructure
and the changes that it made. We need Senator Warren
to get out there about student debt. Secretary Rimondo, I
think is her name. She's the commerce person. She needs
(20:25):
to talk about the manufacturing they brought up, brought out
and Harris has to go over after Trump every waking
moment of the day. And then and I don't mean
this as a slam because I do like Koreine John
Paul Pierre. I keep calling her Jump Paul the press secretary,
but we need someone stronger. She looks like she's playing
a dodgeball game at the last few things she is
(20:47):
giving in kind of talking like well, no, that's not appropriate.
We need someone you know, like no, we're not talking
about that, that's not it and shutting that ship down.
I hope they want to see his medical records. I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
It's damn movie. I want I want to fight you
right now, Bobby Clifford. I want to fight you for
for I can't even disagree with you, because I can't.
I don't dislike her the woman, but I don't like
the position that she has. I don't think has the
authoritative voice. I don't think that she has the capacity
to shut it down like you stop. And as much
(21:23):
as we did not like all the last that that's
funny looking at Sarah Hunkerby Fanders shoved to you. She
was impenetrable. That bitch was a wall.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
She looked like she looked like good gosh, but couldn't
have if she didn't want to go down whatever road you.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Was taking her. She immediately went to somewhere else. And
I think that.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Was the first press secretary under Biden, wasn't it. Isn't
it how you say her name? Patacky?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, she was shut it down. No move, it's not productive.
This conversation is from productive. Let's continue on.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I'm gonna say this, and I know I'm gonna get
my ass handed to me for this, but I think
that in Karren's all mine. And I don't know this woman,
but I think because not only is she a black woman,
but she's openly gay, and she's in such a hobby
she may even have fears of I don't want to
overset my balance because as a black person still in
this country, in twenty twenty four, and I'm speaking from
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a black person's respective. There is some shit that is
still off limits to us to say and or do.
And that's just the truth.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
And I feel badly about that. But what I'm gonna
say about that is if.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
She wants a job in six months, well wait, wait
a minute, boy, because you just brought up the point
I was gonna say, thank you for saying that. Do
you think the reason Sanders and Warren and Boudajets has
not spoken up? And I think that in June Budade
did Boudajets did a great disservice to the community because
that was his time to shine. It was Pride month.
He's openly gay, he has a husband and children. That
(23:01):
was your time to really push to the gay community
how much Biden sees us, understands us, and allows us
to be free in this country. But you did not.
I think you dropped the ball with it personally. And
do you think they are afraid to speak up against
Trump because they are in fear that if Trump wins,
he already if you go after me, I'm going to
get your ass. He first afraid that he's gonna come
(23:24):
with Revine woke up.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I mean, what was what was the first thing he
did when he got in in twenty sixteen? What what
what website?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Shut down the LGBT day one? He came down day
one down?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
What was? What did President Biden do day one that
he got in?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Hosted right back up?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yep, that's it. I mean, I own I'm with you
with something to with with loyalty. We have Texas Democratic
rap Lloyd Dodget and Arizona's wrap rabul Oh god resolvo.
I'm probably killing his name. They spoke out a turn
(24:03):
as far as I'm concerned. They both came out publicly
and said that Biden needs to shut down. If you
need to speak with Biden personally, go do that. Tell
them I'm coming out with this. Somebody would give you
a phone call. You don't come out and say that.
You see that inside with your own party. Do you
think Charles people are doing that? No, the GOP steps
in line and they fall back.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah. I think they're all petrified. Bobby. We lost the
We had a hulk in a Democratic party. Nothing here
was the hawk. We had a hulk. But y'all attack
that woman's husband and she's all he's a seasoned woman,
and y'all scared that woman. I believe that Nancy Pelosi
was our hulk. You couldn't shake her. She didn't back down.
(24:45):
She stood on principle, and she stood on what this
country is supposed to be, which is a democracy. But
they did what they needed to do to get rid
of her. I don't know this new party. They all
seem like what's is Bobby. Everybody's so favot and afraid.
And I get the fear of Trump, especially if you're
trying to have a political career and you're trying to
further and you think that if he gets in office,
(25:05):
you are in trouble. You're still going to be in
trouble because you will always owe your lips to his artists.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, I don't get it. I mean she I think
that Nancy wanted the leadership role and all that comes
with it, as much as President Biden probably actually wants
to run for president. Right now, they're both of a
certain age. It's time to sit back and relax, write
their memoirs, make a gazillion dollars that they can pass
down to their family instead their working tirelessly morning, noon
and night. I mean his family is supporting him, which
(25:35):
I actually love. And people are getting there getting their
chops in to Hunter Biden like he's ever made a
good decision in his life. You know, they just I mean,
the wax don't keep coming for this family. The things
that we have to worry about. He's already had one
fundraiser that was canceled in California. The money. We got
to keep the donors happy. We've got to keep the
unions happy. These are all people that Joe needs, and
(25:58):
we better buck up. I was going to say something else,
but I don't want to. I don't want to be
a potty mouth. We're going to figure it out because.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Now you don't want to. Now you don't want to
be a party mouth. Ladies, you know, I don't want people.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I don't want people hearing me. So I know, I'm curious.
The only thing that made me happy this week, the
only thing that I kind of half smiled, although it
doesn't really make a difference because he's an old man,
is Giuliani got discarred.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Oh I say, uh, fad words, what took them so long?
Good guys, right right exactly?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
For I know, And Bannon went to Bannon went to
jail finally for his four months. Trump is screaming that
it should have been Biden, that should have been going.
And the meantime another people listen up. Now, not only Louisiana,
but Oklahoma. They are insisting that the Ten Commandments be
displayed within the within the schools, and that the Bible
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should be taught. I do agree with one statement they made.
Oklahoma school said, it's a historical document. It should be
it should be taught if you go about it actually
in that way, because it is a historical document, and
you don't jam it down someone's throw you just say
like it's the history book. You open it up. But
of course I want all history, all of American history taught.
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Then I'm not as outraged. But our forefathers started this
country back in the sixteen hundreds as a separation of
church and state. This, this goes against the absolute fundamental
of what our country is built on.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
You just opened up a can of worms in my
head when you say it. What was the topic you said?
You just say it to church and state. The history
is a historical document. That do you Now you just
start a conspiracy theory in my head. I'm just speaking
this is not on topic. It's on topic, but it's help.
It's not on paper. Is that? Why? Is that why
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Trump was selling bibles? Is that is going to be
the new technique that they're going to use, which is
a very old technice because we could read you have
to buy.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
His Bible's blame. That's that's what it will be. He'll
make the schools out by Jill, I'll have to buy
his bibles.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
It's all about it's all about a dollar. Because remember
he was pushing the bibles. This is the same one
who want to read the past press conference but you
read scripture. Yeah, you bad as Joe Osting because Joe
Osting has the same message every week. My father went
to be with the Lord. I was like, you only
dad one time? According to your show, he did about
twelve Wickham.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I mean. And this is the other thing that's a
want want this week is it's the second anniversary of
the Dobbs decision. Right of Rob's waybying called back people.
This is the type of stuff and they're not going
to just start with the preventative stuff. It'll end up
being IVF. It'll end up being they'll start sterilizing people.
If they're depressed, you know, way back in the olden days.
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They're going to start going back to that. That is
what Project twenty twenty five is about. Pay attention. People
look at it. Do a little reading instead of picking
up the S magazine at the at the checkout stand.
Do a little reading that way. And I'm sorry, I'm
not trying to be snarky something I do well, I know,
but I'm trying to pretend to that that's.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
What they understand. So please be snarky. The nice we
just talked about Karee Stepan's the nice they don't hear.
Trump was not nice. He lied and he wasn't nice.
But y'all heard everything he said. You just act like
you did, Okay, So please be snarky. It works.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I didn't see Robert Kennedy. Robert Kennedy, as we know,
did not make the numbers to get on to the stage.
I actually would have maybe that would have helped, you
would have been a buffer. But he's he went on
News Nation as the post debate coverage, and I didn't
see his take. I would have been very interested to
see what his take was, but I didn't, so I
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I don't know if anybody out there give us a little,
a little snapshot. If you did, well, let me you this.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I interviewed Robert Kennedy Friday before last. It's on Andrew
Stanton Kings were waiting on her to release it, and
I told you he changed my views about him in
such a pleasant way. He was and his voice was
a little not shaky with his nervous But he has
some kind of dystonia.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It's yeah, it's just a condition that makes it sound like.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
It's My question is, had he been on the debate,
would y'all have thought something was wrong with him? Because
he spoke very intelligent to me, even though his voice
was a little weird. So but y'all had thought the
same thing about him. That is my y'all, because we
are so visual as a nation now stupidity. Good God,
let me let me. I'm getting frustrated. I almost took
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my brows.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
From the love of God. Are you gonna be a
bride burner? I have to, but I'd have to put
something on my ankles to protect them from my boom
setting them.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
But he's like he's either a hard yale, he's a
very bright man. You educated, Yes, He's.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
A very bright man. I loved you. I loved his policies.
I loved what he was coming at it because I
was not for him before that. But when I spoke
to him personally and I asked him, what were you
going to do for the American people? What would you
do for the LGBT commentity? Do you see me as
a black person? Questions like that? And Bobby gave me
the questions. He was he was, he was direct, he
was brutally honest. And I'm a great judge of character.
(31:24):
I can tell when you shit me because I'm a
great shitter. Did that come out right? But I can,
I can smell it. That's that July cancer birthday is
in eleven days, by the way, y'all. And uh, I
never got that from him. I got genuine cared about
the people and his legacy because in his in his
lineage is Kennedy, that is American royalty in politics. I
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asked him, do you ever think that you be as
loved as your dad or as your uncle? And he says,
I would hope to be, but I will work to
try to be. That's what you want, somebody with a
plan and somebody who sees you somebody who is iron hard.
I'm still a Biden, been in politics fifty years. He
and his sharpe's his words. I'm not I'm an old man.
I'm not moving like the way. I don't debate the
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same way I want to. But I tell the truth,
and I'm telling you right now as soon did y'all
start letting his shoots peek back through the through the curtain,
because y'all have lived in a super superstitis, super sensation
of bullshit so long. We're going to be a better
place and he is a better place for us right now.
A good guy, that's scary.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
He's got a very busy week. Today he was meeting
with the governors, the Democratic governors. I know Harris was
in there. I think it was going to be kind
of like a rah rah speech, and I think he
was shutting the shit down that he's actually getting out,
getting out, you know. I think they were coming in
with that and he's closing it down. I know that
Friday he is going to be in Wisconsin. He also
Friday evening, I believe, is doing an interview with George Stephanopolos,
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and he's he's in Philly on Sunday, and then he's
going to have a press conference next week with NATO.
So I'm hoping to Jesus all of those events go
well and he doesn't get in his own head and
make the situation worse.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, let me tell you something. I said this on
coffee time. You can hope all you won't you, but
hope and vote and pray of course, but hope and
vote because hoping and voting goes hand in hand. All
that hoping and you didn't go vote. When you say
your one vote don't count, this is the one time
that those words will bite you in your ass. Your vote,
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your one vote does count. Because they're gonna be watching
this and it's gonna be complaints anyway. It's gonna be period.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
We won't find out till the end of December in
the new year, before we probably find out who actually
is the president, they're gonna be counting everything. So every
single individual, and if you live in a swing state,
please Jesus get out and vote and vote for you know,
I nobody called him so the four I wasn't crazy
(33:58):
over the format the debate. With the debate format, I
liked that in the beginning I mentioned it last week
that I sort of liked that they were wasn't going
to be an audience for Trump to pander too well,
he has an audience in his own head, so he
didn't really need anybody. I believe that the CNN did
not want to do fact checking or shut anything down
because they didn't want to seem like they were biased
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over one candidate over another candidate. But the lies he
told and he just kept going, and he just kept going.
I just think half of it it really needed to
be It really needed to be shut down. So I
was super disappointed with that. Let's hope that he does.
I don't even know. Tidam Me says Trump won't even
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bother to show up the next time. But then the
other part of me, he loves to get in front
of a group of people, so he probably will. I
hope that Joe does better, he does not get all
in his head and the next week goes goes well.
He's got a lot of knocks on on poor Jo.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Problem with all of it, Bobbi is just there is
no loyalty. Yes, he's an we knew he was old
member fifty years of experienced ship. I'm goin to say
the word fifty years of experienced. Trump's Trump.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Trump has no political experience. He is a businessman, y'all
can saying he failed, but he has won at selling
us because he sold the ship out of this country allegedly.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Do we think he's a terrific businessman? This is a
This is a man. I believe that's the number is
six times he claimed bankruptcy, So I don't know, you know,
and I feel badly it happens once or twice, but six.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
To the law. I said, y'all say he a terrific
I said you, I say he was a terrific businessman.
I think he's the biggest scammer ever period my point
of view. But it's working, and it's working for him,
because again, if you don't know who you are as
a person, you will fall for the oki do career fast,
and a lot of y'all is shameful. It's shameful that
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you see exactly what we see. And we ain't even
talking about the racism, or we ain't talking about the sexism,
but the corruption and the lies. And it was never
good enough to be a part of your family, It
was never good enough to get the job that they
wanted because they had a crime. But now y'all letting
somebody who got thirty four convictions. These ain't indictments, these
ain't charging just pending. These ain't we we haven't found
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you guilty. Now he's been found guilty, y'all allowing him
to be the president? Young When did y'all lower y'all
standards and didn't tell us? Because according to us, y'all
standards still high except for the person that you want
them to be low for. Ooh did I say that?
Come on, Bobby, let's go oh, well.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Speaking of found guilty, So let's let's move on. Scotus.
The Supreme Court, they've been busy bees this week and
one of the things.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
That they have speaking of lowering standards, please, well.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
You know what, So what we have to remember about
you have to go back to you your history classes
when you were in I can't even say high school
it was really lower. Is that the Supreme Court is
set up for all we're never supposed to know anybody's
anybody's political affiliation and what they think. This whole week
has been nothing about but decisions along party lines. And
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let's just remember remind people there are six Republican appointed justices,
three Democrats, and that's how it sort of rolled. So
the community case came up. I wasn't really surprised by this,
but I was very disappointed. They the justices, right along
party lines, all said that presidents do have immunity two
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for official acts versus non official. And that's the hokey doke,
that's the murky wicked area. But it's going to affect
President Trump in his upcoming cases, which is sort of disappointing.
So he sent the I'm thinking Chief Justice Roberts sent
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back the decision for that Judge Mersham was looking at
and he wants him to go through and he wants
him to see hallo dexter. He wants him to see
what acts our official versus non official. So they have
moved it is no longer from July eleventh, the sentencing.
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They've moved it to September eighteenth, and a couple of
talking heads believe it or not, have said that that's
not necessarily a bad thing. They think if it was closer,
he might have raised more money because people would pity him.
But super super disappointing Justice wrote that president should have
an absolute immunity when exercising their constitutional powers.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
But what is that?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Sonya sought a mayor. She dissented, Actually all three Democrats dissented,
and she said that, you know, like, when does it start.
If the president orders Navy Seals Team six to assassinate
a political rival. She says, he'll be immune if they
organize a military cup to hold on to power. He'll
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be immune if he takes a bribe in exchange for
a pardon, immune immune, immune immune. She was beside herself.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
If the Democratic Party played their cars right, they can
use this immunity, this immunity case to make it by
Trump and his ass But if they play their cars right,
that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Well, I think so what they they ultimately did is
they're sending everything back down to the appellate courts. They
really don't want to be dealing with any of the stuff.
So we'll see what Merchant has. Jack Smith's case, they say,
you know, everything is going to get pushed so pushed
out anyway. He's going to have to look. He still
feels he has a solid case regardless. So we're gonna see,
We're gonna see, Actually what happens. Trump is trying to
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throw out the case in New York because one of
the people that actually testified was that is her name,
Hope Hicks or Hickey or something about some of the
pot He informed her that some of this the hush
funny case was going to be coming down blah blah blah.
And they said that that one conversation could could be
considered official. But that was only one conversation. They built
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a case around a million of the things.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
If I was a Democratic Supreme Court justice, I would
be petrified of him getting back in office because if
he becomes a dictator that he wants to be, no job,
you don't have no tenure, He will fire you the
same day.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, well that's the thing they actually kind. So it's
funny AOC now from the squad. Actually it's only happened
in eighteen oh five. She wants to have them impeached,
she wants to have them removed. I don't know if
she has the standing for it, but but she's she's
thrown it out there. So yeah, and the Washington Poster
(40:56):
has reported that the DJ is still going to continue
with their their case even if it's it's past the
November date. So he's going to go off to the
convention and he's not going to have to worry about
being sentenced. That's just that's just, you know, one piece.
But Biden was equally kind of outraged. He handled it
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like I would expect a president. He said, I do
not have that type of power. We're going to now
have to rely on the integrity. Basically I'm paraphrasing because
I can't think of what he actually said. It almost
certainly means there'll be virtually no limits to what a
president can do, and he doesn't feel that. You know,
that's why he's a president.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Including including leave after his four years because he didn't
want to leave. The first time has he ever has
he ever conceded even to this day.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Three times during that debate, three times he was asked
would he accept the accept the results? He deflected once
he came out and said no, unmust Basically, he's not
going to believe them. They have to be honest, they
have to be.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
They have to be what he wants.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
That's exactly That's exactly it. And they did have a
few other a few other things. They gave Biden a
practical victory. Uh the rejectee. They rejected the Republican challenge
over the whole social media thing. You know, social media platforms,
the control of what they can have and what they
have to put up because they feel like they're they're
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holding out against conservative values. And they said, well, they
just didn't want to hand the case. It was like
it wasn't you know, kind of moving along. Something else
that goes the hand in hand with Trump is they
found that the dj overstepped the January sixth how how
the people were were held accountable. They they felt that
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obstruction is as a more narrow scope than what they
were convicted for. So you know, that's going to open
a whole can of worms there.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I'm having a Joe Biden moment. By the way, did
we talk about do we talk about Biden's shaky against
Ronald Reagan's while we were on live or did we
do that before we started taking I.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Think we did it before we were shot Japan, because.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
I want I want you guys to understand that. And
when y'all say that Biden is shaky and what he is,
he's an old man, he gets tongue tied because he
had he had studied his entire life. He's also been
in service and y'all want to say that his man
ain't there, but his man is sharp. He makes great decisions.
The reason y'all at him so hard, and y'all wasn't
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there Ronald Reagan when he was going through his whole
dimension during his second term was because of social media
and the media. We are so much more We are
so much more fortunate now against and unfortunate to be
able to look into people's living rooms and look into
people's daily lives and be able to see what they're doing.
You can't even poot now without big Brother watching. We
see Biden's slow for digression or progression and to get
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as getting older. We did not see Ronald Reagan because
we were not privy to so much stuff that we
are privy to now, especially with social media. That is
the difference. And Biden had Biden has his wits about him,
but Reagan had a strong cabinet, which I said on
the Breakfastleven Juness, Biden has a strong cabinet standing behind him.
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We will be okay. He just would be the face
of our leader, but we'll have a lot of other
people making the decisions of who our leader really is.
So I need y'all to stand together and band together.
I want to make that because I think y'all don't.
I think people forget that because you wasn't around during
the Reagan era or you were, you know, you didn't
pay attention to politics, but you were so much more
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privy to see now than what you could see then
because you you only saw Reagan if it was a
press conference, and y'all, they could have told him what words.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
He shuffled out at the end and he was only
in his seventies. He kind of movedton as he came out. Yeah, no,
it's you've gotta do something. And I feel like these
these two guys that are coming out against Biden, the
Texas and the Arizona reps, you know, they have to
look at themselves when when they're up for reelection and
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it's going to be what they accomplished. They're probably worried
that they're not going to get they're not going to
get voted back in. But if they were strong within
their area and they actually did the work. I mean, remember,
this is the do the least amount of anything Congress
and Senate that we have had in history. So that's
on them, that's not in President Biden, but they the
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Scotus also pause the environmental remember the Good Neighbor Act
with the smoke stacks and stuff, so that people didn't
get polluted. They kind of put that on pause for
right now. The Chevron and National Resource Defense that that's
a they shut down that whole president so that that
was sort of disappointing. They did then the oxyconton the
(46:03):
Purdue Pharma Opaoid settlement. They didn't vote to protect the
owners of it, which was a little the Sacklo family,
So that was that wasn't so bad, probably because it's
i mean, between that and fentanyl, you know, the world
is kind of has kind of been been a hot mess.
The other thing that they are I'm not going to
(46:24):
say they're siding with the Bide administration, but they're temporarily
allowing emergency abortions in Idaho because that was a whole
thing when the mother is mother's at risk. So that
was sort of good. They something that's sort of sad.
I think it's just like immigration. I think that unentomed people,
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that's a that's a huge opportunity, and they are allowing
Oregon to punish the homeless that we're living in the
parks and I and I have to say, I feel
a certain way about that. I feel terrible for the people,
but let's put them somewhere. But I also think that
if you were with your three little children and going
into a park, you shouldn't have to be beaten off.
Because a lot of these people are mentally ill or
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you know, they have drug issues, you shouldn't have to
be beating them off.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
So it is, and it is, and it's very scary, y'all.
And I'm telling y'all, I'm with y'all on so many
different levels of fear and anger and outrage and what
I want. But hoping is no good without voting. And
I'm telling you now that your vote matters, and it
is critical that we stand together as a nation, especially
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if you're black and brown descent, hell, if you have
white descent. If you care and have dignity about who
you are as an American citizen, I don't do a
damn what nationality you are, what what race, creed, or color.
I don't care about your religion, because he will have
control of everything. You're not.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
You're not hearing us.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
When I tell you the Department of Education gone, the
FBI gone, iest gone.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Pollution and climate.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
You have Marshall law rampage. The police will be able
to They already get away with it in our face.
Now they can get away with it just for sport.
Understand that they will have competitions that work. I killed
twenty agents today, Tomorrow you got to be my record
back killing twenty five or I kill fifty black people.
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They will do shit like that and we won't have
nothing to say because we don't have nobody standing for us,
with us or buy us. Make the decision in your
own heart and spirit, even if it is bite. You
have to bite your tongue and close your eyes and
hold your nose to do it. And vote your bike
because you're voting for yourself. That's my piece. What you
got body the.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Only other thing I'm going to have. Just because you
were talking about the cops, I had read it and
I thought it was a little interesting. I want we
want to give the US Marshals props. They have been
out in a six week operation to recover missing children, runaways,
people who are brought into trafficking, and they found in
a six week period two hundred missing children over this
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year to date. As of July, the third, five hundred
and forty six kids were found and either placed back
with their families or placed in a different situation. Last
year they recovered nine hundred and fifty kids. So these
are cops who are doing the right thing and trying
to get these kids off the stream. And I thought
that was pretty great.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
We still have great people out here, y'all, we really do.
They're just being superseded by all these clowns and all
this foolishness. Make the decision, do the right thing, do
the right thing for you. But if you want to
save the country and you undecided and you're not sure,
or you are a Republican, that won't sustain ry Republicans,
but you don't you're not happy with this Republican party,
then against your against your partisanship, but you'll work for
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your better judgment as a human and as an American.
Vote for Biden. Save yourself, because if it hits us,
it's going to hit you. It may not hit you
the same way it hits us, but it will hit
you and you will not like it. All right.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
The old man versus the bad Man's versus.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
The Orange mayor the Orange July liar liar pants on fire. Baby,
if his pants got on fire and we saw them
tidy white, he's burning, that would tackle the shit out
of me. Oh my god, I.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Wouldn't want to smell it. According to the people that
had to stand behind him in conch, oh my him
skid knocks on him. He does love shing.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
I guess that's all. I'm big Max. You know he
loves McDonald's yuck. Okay, and if he liked me, look
if he liked fake meat, but he loved real money.
He definitely don't want yours this lady. I don't thank
you guys so much for joining us here at laughing.
I remember. I will be in Atlanta, Georgia on July
nineteenth and twentieth at Uptown Comedy Club. Get your tickets
at the box office at the website, along with Sherwin
(50:43):
Array and a Sham and Franklin. We're gonna have a
fantastic time. I got some shit to talk about, y'all.
Come see how pretty I'm look at how much shit
I'm gonna talk. And I love Atlanta and I love Uptown,
So catch me in Atlanta. D in and oh. The
premiere came out for the movie We Got Ours Today
even though I'm not there, I will be miss they
missed me. I miss them too, but I missed that traffic.
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Good God. Happy fourth of July, Happy Independent Day. I
know some of you guys celebrated, some of you don't.
And in my old words are what I always said,
it's a part of my history. You cannot erase the
happiness of my history. Yep. We know about Juneteenth now,
and we also know that Independence Day was different from
very different cultures, but a lot of holidays was. But
in my youth it was a happiness for me. So
(51:25):
I'm gonna remember the happiness because it's much easier to
remember the happiness than it is to remember the sadness.
So happy fourth of July. I hope you guys are
barbecuing and doing your fireworks. Please be safe. Don't have
no kids around them. Damn fireworks. No sprinklers or sparkles
or nothing. The most they can have is over those
little pop things that you throw on the ground in
they pop.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Give your dogs some CBD too, if you got dogs
that are nervous.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Oh, I'm Timmy gonna take two bit of drills, because
Timmy be over here is shaking like a leaf. Good.
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you're doing because you're laughing, learn. We are not trying
to get you to change your mind. We are only
trying to get you to use your mind, because.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
Why, Bobby is, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
And a vote is the even worse one. Hope and vote,
ladies and gentlemen, and then pray, hope and vote, and
then pray. This is flame and row. That is Bobby Clifford.
Thank you, mister Aaron Howard. This was Laugh and Learn.
Until next week, y'all. Peace. Don't miss an episode of
Laugh and Learn. Listen and subscribe on the Black Effect
Podcast Network, I Heart Radio, app or wherever you get
(53:52):
your podcasts. Laugh and Learned Podcast is a production of
the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Our objective deduce
to is Tiffany Hattish. Our theme music is by the
one and only Chrissy Payne. Thank you guys. This is
slamming Row. Don't forget to laugh, listen and learn
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