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April 19, 2024 43 mins

Flame and BobbI Clifford discuss the Boston Marathon, the passing of designer Roberto Cavalli, and the death of O.J. Simpson. They touch on the importance of getting regular check-ups, particularly for prostate cancer, Brittany Griner and her wife expecting a baby. voting rights, the Israel-Gaza conflict, the trial of former President Trump, and the importance of women in politics, the need for strong leadership and much more. Tune in and comment in the socials below.

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
We're flame shame.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
If you watch the Coffee Time the baby you know
the name Flame, my bro also known as my ro Flame.
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you better catch it when you can drop a knowledge
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Tips? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
She raised shin towns on speaking to the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
A second.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
We're gonna last cut up and kicking and at the
again we leave it with just a lifted spirits. Think
you want to revisit so your first second listen young
folks say you slip?

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Oh folks that we dig it?

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Good?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
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do what you do?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Cag no, this do what I do? Know this? What please?

Speaker 5 (01:26):
She we? Hey, hey, welcome to this week's episode of
That and Learned. This is comedian playing my roe and
along with my beautiful and gorgeous and storytelling UH co

(01:49):
hosts Bobby Clifford, Hi you cooks?

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Hi? How are ya?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I'm good? I can't but I can't.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
Everybody question that. You must say that at least three
times every episode, Bobby, So I don't want you to dismay.
You must say I can't at least three times this episode.
I'll yes, you will.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
I won't now, but I'll do it.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Okay. Thank you. Listen to our producer, Aaron Howard, our
fabulous producer point here this week. We are almost down
to the wire for season four, ladies and gentlemen, and
we want to thank you guys for pushing, helping, sharing, listening, subscribing, downloading,
and helping us to get to where we are on
our way to. On this Monday, the twenty second, I

(02:32):
will be on the Sherry Shepherd Show. It's her big
birthday badge. I'm the feature comedian on the show. Bobby
Clifford will be in the audience and I will acknowledge
her and they're going to put the camera on Bobby.
But on Tuesday, we will be sitting in studio together
at the Breakfast Club with Charlomagne, the God DJ Inindy
and Jess Hilarious. So we want you guys to tune
in because we are on a promotional campaign to push

(02:53):
not only the shows that I have coming up, but
we're pushing laugh and learn for season four. Because we
are on our way to season four and politics is
hotter now than they've ever been in my lifetime. So
I'm telling you right now, if you ain't ready, if
you ain't got your good gasoline free draws one, you
better put them on, because baby ain't. It ain't gonna
stop until after November, after November the fourth, right, absolutely,

(03:16):
So we are on a mission right now, ladies and gentlemen,
So we're gonna get into it. I just want to
talk with how you, Bobby. How was your week? Bobby?

Speaker 4 (03:23):
It was good. We had the we had the marathon here.
It was gorgeous day seventy that's Patriots Day. It's one
of the one of my favorite days, and it's so
pretty exciting. We not a winner from the United States.
The man and woman were both from Kenya. The wheelchair
man's wheelchair was from Switzerland and the woman's wheelchair voice

(03:46):
from the UK. I believe I'm like, not an American.
We're slacking.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Well, let me just say this. It might have been
an American from Kenya, but he just he's not a
Kenyan American American Kenyan. Yeah, y'all. Never nobody will ever
be those Africans when it comes with the long distance,
because they have to go to the market. It's eight miles.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
And they don't have a car. They don't even have
a wheel amongst them. But yeah, no, God bless them.
And they're so lean and pretty, and but I would
have like if somebody won, American won something.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
That Boston Marathon is a big deal. I'm glad that
they're back on kill with that because after that bombing
a few years ago, it was.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
You know, eleven years can you imagine yes, fast, It.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Doesn't seem like that. It doesn't to me either.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
I saw I read it, I went wow.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
But it was so tragic and people were afraid and
you know, afraid to come because you just never knew
what was gonna happen. So I'm glad to see that
people are trying to get back to some sense of
normalcy in that in that arena in their life. So
hats off, congratulations to the Boston Marathon. It's been a
really good week for me. I had fantastic meetings with
some major networks yesterday about a show that was possibly
trying to push. The bookings are coming in. I'm excited

(04:58):
about next week. I mean very excited about next Monday
and Tuesday with Cherry Shepherd and then Monday night I'm
a comedy in Harlem, and then Tuesday the Breakfast Club
with And I'm more excited that it's gonna be me
and Bobby because they get a chance to see this
team that we have put together now. And that's not
the gate that I had a great co host with

(05:18):
Nick Smith. I had a great co host with Lauren Hogan.
But Bobby is my research analyst, and Bobby is I
don't know. We kind of like kindred spears because we're
so different and so much alike in so many different ways.
And I think it's going to be great and they'll
get a chance to see such a different dynamic of
an Irish Catholic, American white woman, single mother of one

(05:41):
with a American with a with American African, a black
American African, transgender woman father, single father of three. But
what we have in common is not that just we're parents,
but it's that we are Americans. And that is what
we're gonna push on there, Bobby. We're gonna that bad.
People know that because I keep thinking, I think people

(06:01):
keep forgetting that we look different, with shape, different, we
have different religions than ideologies. But at the end of
all of this, we're still Americans.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
And I wish that that Congress and the Senate would
hear that, because if you took away the differences, there's
so much stuff alike. Everybody that's in there, well, I
feel like nobody's in there right now that wants to work.
But in Siri, everybody that's in there wants to do
best by their constituents and bring something back for their
people on their side. It used to be that you

(06:31):
could work a little together. You gave me a little
something flame. This time, I gave you a little something,
you know, to get things passed. And I hope we
get back to that. I love to remind those people.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Will be the face. We will be the face of
that Bobby. So that's what we're going to present next week. Anyway,
let's get to so this week, ladies and gentlemen, this
week we lost a couple. We have a couple of
passings that we want to start off the show with
prayers to the families, prayers blessings to the people that
passed on. And the first one was homebody.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Roberto Cavali, the designer. I loved his stuff so pretty
to look at. I just said to you, like the
big the big prince like he and so sexy. His
stuff was he he I think would have been perfect
for you. I feel badly that he's gone.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
And in the early nineties, in the early nineties, I
had quite a few Robtal Kobali cocktail dresses because I
was a lean, stin body machine. And I did love
all his I loved tiger stripe, and I love big
bowl leopard print. I don't like the small lepper print.
I liked the big bow leper and he was he
was famous for that when he brought that over here.
He had a whole runway collection. That's why I put

(07:33):
him on the map. Was his animal print collection, exactly right. Yeah,
And lots of people wore his Lots of big name
models wore his stuff. From Cindy, It's from Christy Turlington
to Cindy my personal favorite, to Naomi Campbell. Campbell, he
was just a remarkable designer and a wonderful guy. From

(07:55):
what they're saying, nobody had anything bad to say about him.
He's a great guy and he lived to be what
seventy two.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Eighty three he was eighty three, Yeah, he yeah, he was.
He had cool, cool stuff and what I liked about him.
I loved the way it hung on somebody. He sort
of made it for the body, but he made it
for boobs too. You know, if you were somebody who
had boobs and you weren't completely flat chested, it was
tough to get stuff that did you know, you weren't
popping out over hanging off you. And so I love

(08:23):
the way he designed it is quite.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
A loss, Bobby, that was a double autonomy. She says,
she loved the way things hung. Is that is that me? No?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
No, no, They skimmed the body. Nothing was bulky or big.
It just just kind of hugged the body.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
And I like it.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
He had a nice eye.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
I thought it was terrific to the one and mister
Robert Covelli rest in peace and now onto a legend,
a legendary football player, a Heisman Trophy winner, a father,
a great businessman, and whatever we think about him on
a personal level. O. J. Simpson was an accomplished athlete,

(09:04):
He was an accomplished actor, an accomplished businessman. He did
have some troubles in his life. And I hate that
the media only harked on that. They only embarked on
the negative, but he had accomplished so many other positive things.
And I still tell a joke about OJ Simpson on stage,
and I'm wondering, is it too soon that I could
still tell that joke, But I'm still gonna tell her.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Depending on what it is, it
might be too soon, but it might it might be
the perfect time.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
He was.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
He was he he was somebody that had it all.
So the stuff that he was in trouble for, well,
it makes you realize that fame and fortune doesn't always
make you happy.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
Right that that? And he uh, he died from prostay cancer.
And if I always talk on coffee time, I always
push for me. And it is not gay, it is not.
And I know it's a little intrusive, but it is
for your own good to find to go get your
prosects exams and go get your colonascu be so you

(10:00):
can make sure that you don't have cancerous polyps or
nothing that's going on back there. And I know there
are warning signs for prostate cancer, but so many black men.
I'm saying this from a black man's perspective because I'm
a trans woman, but I don't have a unis and
I do have a prostate that you sometimes you really
don't know. It might you might get a little tingle
or a little itch, but it will cause erecto dysfunction,

(10:22):
or it will stop your p flow will slow up.
Those are pre warning signs the hey, go get checked
out and make sure, because if you're free and clear
from a clear colonoscopy, you only have to wait. You
only got to go another ten years. A colonoscopy is
not bad, fellas I'm telling you. The preparation sucks. It
does because you're in the bathroom, You and the toilet

(10:42):
are married for twenty four hours, but the procedure, Bobby
is fifteen to twenty minutes at best. The propovol is
worth it because you feel like you've been sleep for
twelve days, but you've been sleep for fifteen minutes. And
it is. It is in and out. But the surety
to know that I'm safe in my prostate, that I

(11:04):
have no cancerous polyps that could potentially kill me, because
he died from prostate cancer, and some people wait till
it's too late. And once you get to stage four
or even late stage three, it's not that it's it's
very tough that's what it is. By stage four is
probably a wrap, but late stage three is really tough.

(11:25):
So to prevent it, all you have to do is
go and get it done. Yes, yes, you have to
bend over and let somebody get up in your anal,
but you're asleep, so you don't know. You don't.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Absolutely, yeah, I'm having mine in late May. I was
actually having it made first they canceled. So for women
to it's super important to colonoscopy, and I don't think
that men should be babies. Women have to put their
legs up in stirrups almost above their head and have
salad tongs, freezing cold salad tongs put into them and

(11:56):
spread them out like like you're inside of an s
and chicken.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Can do that. Oh my god, oh my god, two
fingers for two seconds up yr hu haa.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Then I think you know, suck it up, man, put
your put your big boy pants on, and go and
have your prostate done.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
Because it is my hand between my legs like I
kept feel the colvis of that cell.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
It is.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
It's like they put them in the freaking refrigerator before
they put them in here and everything. It's just like
men when things get cold, everything shrinks and it hurts
even more.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
So go yeah, prayers to He had, he had children,
he had a fan. He was a Heisman Trophy winner
in his heyday, he was he was one of the
He was probably the most famous black athlete of his
era back in the day at anybody.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
So my father loved O. J. Simpson.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
He was.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
I don't know who was more devastated. You know, when
he when he had allegedly killed although he was found
liabel for it, Civilly, his ex wife, and Ron Goldman.
My father thought he walked on wada. He jogged through
an airport and didn't even get sweaty, holding his football
in his briefcase. My father thought he was he was

(13:18):
the best thing since sliced bread. And he was. He
was five time pro bowler and Hall of Famer if
memory serves me correctly. So you know, he really had
it all. But you know, the one thing that I
was disappointed about, and I'm not disappointing. If the family
could do what they want what I think it would
have given me some closure. If they wanted to take

(13:40):
his brain and check it for CTE. I think that
the family refused. I think I would have wanted that
because at least you would have got closure that way
if he had CTE. Maybe that's why he was so
violent reason for it.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
I completely disagree with you on that one, Bobby. I think, no, no, no,
that's your opinion. I would not have wanted my brain
cut open because I don't want them to now say, oh,
I was violent, and maybe this is why he committed
the heinous crime that y'all say he did. But in

(14:16):
the court of law he was found not guilty. So
do you see what I mean by because then it
just opens up a whole nother can of worms. I
understand exactly what you're saying, because it could have been like, oh,
that was the reason, because they are saying that these
football players, after all, these have all of that. But
at this late stage of the game, what difference would
it have made, because people have already formed their opinions

(14:36):
about the man that he was or the man who
he was when he died. So I don't think it
would have made understand And I'm sure plenty of people
think the way you think, but and I'm understanding, But
to me, they have already formed their opinion, and I
think the family might have been a little more adhering
to that. Had the media not went only after his negative,
they never pointed out the positive.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
That's what we do though. Look at Whitney Houston when
she went, you know, like they went to of course
she was she was a drug addict, but instead of
that's what they sort of glombed on and how her
life sort of fell apart, instead of being the most
beautiful woman in the world and a voice like an angel.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
You know.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Yeah, I think that's what we do. Same with Michael Jackson.
We tend to go with these people that have it all.
We tend to be a little a little negative and
want want But he had some pretty violent stuff. But yeah,
put prayers to the both families.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
Well, we not go end on the We're going to
end on the fact that OJ Simpson was a living
legend in his time. He accomplished some wonderful things. And
guess what, prayers to the family, prayers to the O. J.
Simpson Foundation, and all of that, because everybody's going to
have their own opinion, and I don't want to hark
on the negative right now. The man is gone to
glory or wherever he go, and I hope when he

(15:53):
got wherever he was going, and there was a beautiful,
brand new white Bronco waiting on him.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Maybe that was maybe that was his chariot that brought
him to wherever he was going. Hey, you know what
I wanted to ask you? And I did not. I
went to ask now in LA they said that I
don't know where the one on one is. That they're
building this big overpot pass and it's going to be
closed down all sorts of lanes of it because for

(16:21):
the wildlife. I guess that when some of the highways
were put in, some of the indigenous species conkered from
one side of LA to another side of LA. And
do you see that? Is that anywhere near you?

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Yes? The one on one is the freeway that I
take very often Here's and the traffic on the one
on one is already barbaric. So this is going to
be parking lot of traffic. So I'm going to try
to stay away from LA. Why they're doing that as
much as they can. But here's the thing, Bobby, how
are they going to direct the animals to go? Is
the overpass for the animals or for the driver? Yes?

Speaker 4 (16:56):
No, it's for the open And so what they're doing
is they're there.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
Way, tell me, is it for the animals or for
the No, it's the animals.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
It's the animals.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Now the rest of animals to go across the damn overpass.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
They can have a little man out there with a
little whistle going to to come over here. So what
they're doing is they're making it actually look like land.
They're not going to make it look like it's not
gonna look like an overpass. It will have whatever the
dirt is from the area and the soil, and they're
going to build like trees or whatever, whatever scrub stuff,
whatever they would usually find in the woods. They're gonna
put it over it so that all of the coyotes

(17:31):
and the deers and the mountain lions can get from
one side of LA to the other.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
Well, if they get, if they know like that, I
know they want to stay off the one on one anyway,
because we got some horrible drives here in California. They're
gonna be roll killed or snacks because baby, these people
can now drive here. I'll see what I see it.
But that's what but that's going to make that's going
to make the traffic a nightmare.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Bobby five, My friend is when when they're gonna when
they're gonna complete it, there'll be some jackass that will
try to probably drive over it. You know, Oh could
I get there faster? Could I? There'll be something that
will happen. I'm sure you're gonna have to keep us
posted on that. I just didn't know if it started.
I didn't know if it was this Monday or next

(18:10):
Monday that they were starting.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
So where we're going, Where we're going.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah, exactly, we're gonna move on. Britney Griner and her wife,
Charral having a baby. Charrell's south. He's like carrying.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
So Brittany got out of jail and knocked up her wife.
That was, y'all. I'll just jo Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
I'm happy though she she I mean, that was that
whole Russian trial and all that that. I like to
see her back in the swing. She's she seems like
she's getting some sort of normalcy after spending three hundred
days in custody, right, So I love it.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
God bless them. They definitely deserve happiness because none of us.
I don't know, because Brittany Grinder has never really discussed
all of the things that happened with her down there
in that Russian prison, and we may never know. I'm
sure the wife knows, but I'm sure, I'm sure there
are some horror stories that she has to tell that
she just is not ready to share. But congratulations to them.

(19:13):
I hope they have a great, healthy baby, and I
hope they have a whole, big old family. And I
love to hear, I love to hear, I love Joey.
I love people who want to have children and who
want to take care of their children in a loving way.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
It's true. It's that so, Brittany, if you're listening to us,
by any chance, it's going to be the best adventure
you're ever going to have.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
Well you remember that, and I remember now, remember Bobby
saying that when they become a teenager, yeah, because that's
a whole nother ball game.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
But then they hit their they hit their mid twenties,
and they become your friends. Then you know, well, there's
still your kids, but but they they kind of like you,
and you kind of like them. Again, we always love
each other.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Fourteen to twenty wo.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yes, oh my god, pubably twenty two and maybe with
girls twenty.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
Four, we're gonna call it. We're gonna call those years
the Wonder years, because you wonder who the hell those
kids are, I don't know you.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
And how and wonder how you didn't kill them. So no,
I think that's a terrific name. Something else I saw
in the I'm calling it the paper, but while I
was researching this week, and I loved it personally, I
loved it. Nebraska is giving back their voting rights to
people who are convicted after they've served their time. I
think they have to do like two years, like finish

(20:31):
out probation and whatnot, and then they'll get something from
the Department of Corrections saying that they can go and
register to vote.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Well, Bobby, isn't that our American right? So and I
love that because once they always say, if you don't
do the crime, you can't do the time. But once
I've served my time and I'm off documented paper that's right,
not on parole probation, then I don't. I don't belong
to you anymore. So I belong to myself and I'm
back an American citizen, so I should have that right
to vote. So I love that. I love to hear that.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah, I do. I mean too, I got that. I
got and we need it. We need people who are
who are going to actually vote, and hopefully after spending
some time, they'll they'll have a little bit of interest
about who's going in and I maybe do a little
bit of their research.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
And I hope you vote blue. I hope you vote blue.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
I want them to vote. But yes, I could. I
cannot imagine. Well, I'm not going to get into I
can't imagine if they'd vote in the other direction this time. Yeah.
So something else that we've that we've been talking about
nineteen fifty nine Israel and Gaza. So there was a

(21:39):
proposal for a cease fire with Kamas. They are coming up.
The ceasefire is supposed to have forty hostages that are returned.
They're offering us less than I think they're doing nineteen
for a six weeks, six week ceasefire. Oh say that time.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
Time is fast.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
And but we've got a few US officials that are
a little skeptical. They're a little nervous that they're only
giving half of the forty because they're wondering do they
even have forty left. You know, none of nobody's ever
seen them. You know, we're not really hearing anything on
the hostages. So I am I'm praying for that too.
I've been known a lot of praying. My rosary beads
are wearing out lately, So prise to those poor, those

(22:24):
poor hostages.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
That with the war, with the war, you know, I
never have I never have a comment on it. It's
always the same with me. I hate wars. Wars are
stupid to me because there's too many innocent people that
are killed. I still believe that the world leaders should
be put in a ring. Can you see Putin and
Zaliski and a ring boxing right now? I think it's
a lesky with the ass Personally, yeah, but so much

(22:49):
it would have said so much since its death and
unnecessary heartache and pain and people are homeless and hung baby,
put the world leaders in the ring and let them
box it out. Who wins, that's who wins. And who loses,
that's who loses. Because it's too many innocent people dying
during boards. So prayers to all the innocent parties. And
we got two wars. I ran this swung on our

(23:10):
rack and that's right. Ukraine is fighting with Russia and
it's just it's very scary and we are living in
a time of nuclear because if anybody shoots off nukes,
everybody has to shoot off nukes. And that is what's
scary to me.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
It is Israel. So Iran did Unleashavarajah missiles and stuff
and drones and a whole bunch of other stuff. But
Israel handled it well. US forces actually and other allies,
you know, UK, France, they helped repel with their air
munitions or whatever they're calling them ninety nine percent of

(23:46):
the three hundred projectiles, which was pretty impressive. So it
sort of stands up to Iran and shows them that
Israel isn't going to just lay down and they have
the capability to knock this stuff out. And our president,
our president Joe Biden is said, is not going to
participate in any type of offensive. So Netanyahu's going to
have to figure it out. He's backing him. He's an

(24:08):
ironclad is the expression he used, that we back Israel,
but we're not getting involved in all that mess. Okay,
so thank god. But still so people pay attention to
read look, you know, pay attention to what's going on.
Make sure that even the local people are voting for
they have they have your same ideology speaking of people.

(24:30):
So in Congress, Mike Johnson is supposedly I think on
Friday he is going to he's separating the deals for
aid to Ukraine in Israel. That's a push from the GOP.
They're really pushing him to separate, and hopefully they'll vote
on that on Friday and then both groups will get
what they're actually needing. A governor. I don't know him,

(24:54):
Tom Massey, he co sponsored with Marjorie Taylor Green to
remove the speaker, So which which is a mess people?
And you might think that sounds great if you're a Democrat,
it's not. Congress without a speaker gets nothing accomplished. And
we're at a place right now that we can't have that.
We need everybody doing whatever I'm gonna say working. We

(25:15):
never nobody kind of paying attention.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
I want to publicly say this. I would like to
see Marjorie Taylor Green get pregnant by a person of
black or brown descent and the baby and the kid
comes out to be non binary or transgender. Oh my god, Jesus,
talk about redemption.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Jesus. She'd probably lose her hair.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
I just wanted to call it, and they wouldn't be
and hear me, I'm not facilitating like it would be hate.
It wouldn't be hate. It would be God teaching her
how to love, because I don't think that woman knows
how to love.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Well, she's probably number once loft, which is kind of.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
Sound well that head, damn show lang because that head
looks a mess anyway.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
All right, something that was good. Another waste of our time, effort,
and energy is that the Senate today, Chuck Schumer. They
dismissed the first article of impeachment, of course, on party
lines fifty nine to forty nine for majorcas and then
they tabled the second one. So it's basically down. You know,

(26:15):
you have to remember that that they were trying to
get him for wilful and systemic refusal to comply with
the law and a breach of public trust. That was
his high crime and misdemeanor, which is what Chuck Schumer said.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
It didn't have.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
It was, you know, sort of a big fat, big
fat waste of everybody's time according to Article two, section
four of the Constitution. So it didn't meet, it didn't
meet the what they needed. But all that time, effort,
and energy they could be getting the aid to the
to Ukraine. They could be voting on that. I mean,
they're in dire straits over there. You know, they don't

(26:51):
have anything. They've got to be throwing rocks at the
at the Russian.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Soon. We got to get the fight. And that is
like taking a knife to a gunfight. It's just you
wait time. They definitely need more bullets because they're not
they're down there, Ammo is low. It is. It is
humanity to me in this aspect. And I know that's
not our country and we had the damn show got
our own problems that we need President Bite to fix.

(27:14):
But if you can help, it's helping your fellow man.
I think that's what the scripture says. But it doesn't
mean that your fellow man has to be an American.
It's just you know, you helpful, you can You don't know, Bobby,
it's too much. I can't even handle that right now.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
By It's.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
It is and they are and I want NATO to
stay safe. And why I want us to stay a
part of NATO because we need those forces. That's what
we have talked about on this show before. This is
why Joe Biden needs a second term. Joe Biden is
still repairing fenses that were broken by the last administration
for our allies, because we are no good by ourselves.
We need other eyes and other places in other ears

(27:52):
to make sure that they can let us know what's
coming and what's what they have heard. But we had
a crazy administration before, and they trying to get back in.
And I'm telling you, since we went, since we didn't
went down that rabbit hole, and you mentioned a waste
of time and taxpayers money, I do believe that this
trial in New York for Donald Trump, about this hush
money trial, I wish that they would have won another

(28:14):
route and started with something bigger. Yes, I get it.
He lied, he cheered on his white but a lot
of me and paid Pacucie. Let me just say that.
But they could be married and they still paid Pacucci.
I almost wish he would have came out and said, yeah,
I paid for it, but I overpaid for it. I
need a refund because I know some pretty white women.
But and Thormy Daniel is not an unattracted white woman.

(28:35):
But one hundred and thirty thousand, no, maybe twenty five
hundred at best, I think.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
He should have I mean, it's not it is too
much it is. I mean, it is hush money, but
it really what he's getting dinged for is the falsifying
of his business records. And I think in any way,
shape or form, that is more. It's a misdemeanor versus
a felony. Right. I think he should have paid a
big fine, and we should have and he should have

(29:04):
been on the record, like he had to be called
out on it. He shouldn't be getting away with it.
But he see it's his mouth. His mouth gets him
in trouble every time. But I would have liked to
have taken those same efforts and goten towards the Georgia
you know, the election interference, and that's that's where I
want to get it. When he actually did something that
was in January and January sixth, the other election interference.

(29:28):
I want to get him on that, not on the
stupid paperwork and you know whatever. So yeah, honest to God,
but it is he's got he They started the first
ever a former president is having a trial. They kicked
the trial off this week. He has seven seven jurors.
They started it with one hundred. They had to get

(29:51):
rid of fifty right away because the people couldn't be impartial,
with fear and impartial. They were down to forty something
and then they got seven. I think say they want
to get to twelve and probably some alternate so I
think that they need eleven more.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
And here's the killer. Bobby. I would love to be
a jeer on that trial, and I know I wouldn't
be able to be because you know, it's going to
be really hard to find jewers that have not seen
any American that has not seen what is going on
with Donald Trump in the last three or four years.
But I am a very fair and impartial person, and no,
I don't never want him back in public office. I

(30:30):
do not. But if they left any reason of a
doubt with this case, Bobby, I would be very fair
of you, like, no, you have not proven to me this,
that or the third. That is what they have to find.
They're going to have to find some very level headed,
cool tempered people, no matter how they feel about Trump
on a political level, to see this case for exactly
what it is and to hear the facts that have

(30:52):
been presented to them. That is going to be very
challeable because people already have a seed planted on how
they feel about a person so you're going to have
to be able to remove that. Everybody can do that.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Bob, I can't tolerate him, but I could do it.
I could because it's not even on him, it's on
the It's not him personally. That's what you have to
take away. It's the facts of the case and one
he actually did and did he do something wrong? And yes,
I could say that he did if he did he
did something wrong, but if it was really BS and
they don't have it to back up, if Brad doesn't

(31:24):
have it to back up the DA, I think I
could do it. That said, what I wouldn't enjoy though,
imagine the nutbags that would be at your jewel if
they found out where you lived and all that. Some
of these people think of the poor, the poor election
women from from Georgia who are like fearing for their
lives and they haven't been able to work and they
don't get any peace because it's sort of a purple

(31:46):
state down there. But people were threatening them and everything else.
That's the part that I that I wouldn't like about it.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
Listen, now, I want to be a jeweler for two reasons.
I would love to be in that land life to
be in that spot. And secondly, I would write a
book because all the jewels famous cases, they all write
books after work and they become the gazillionaires because they
were there, they were able to tell the story.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Oh, I would love that. I would love that I
could pay for my student loans. He could judge. He
did two things. He looked like he was falling asleep
to me, I don't know about you. I don't know
if he was concentrating, but he had that startled response
that babies get when they kind of get booked up.
And he got reprimanded by Judge Merchant. He because he
was I think he was blustering and reacting to one

(32:30):
of the the jur One of the jurors were asked
questions how they answered, and he said to him he
did not have his juris intimidated in his courtroom. I
don't think President Trump is used to people correcting him,
So I think that's that's pretty pretty interesting.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
Yeah, it's preponderous, and this case is going to they're
going to drag this out. But I'm with you, Bobby.
I wish they would have started with Atlanta and because
that was a much more say his case especially since
we're fighting to to so so called or supposedly keep
him out of this election, if if that's what way
up to doing. But listen, this is where we are.

(33:11):
This is where we are.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
I wish it could have flip flopped him, like I
think this one came up first, but I would have
loved it. The one that was that, like a strong case,
could have come first, and then we could have kind
of handled that. And I'm gonna be honest, I don't
know if I actually feel like I care if he
goes to jail. I would just like if he could
never run again. I don't even want him involved in
anybody's election. I don't want to I don't want to
hear him. I don't want to see him. I want
him to just go off tomorro Lago and play golf.

(33:36):
Bless his little hat with the hedgehogs. But he's got
he's got people that that could come out. He's you know,
Michael Cohen, though he's a liar, he cannot keep a
story straight his wife, But I don't know how spout
spousal Perriver Jordan come in Giuliani, Giuliani who lost his
bid to try to get his defamation case on those

(33:59):
two when we were just talking about in Georgia dismissed
and they said absolutely not. So I don't know where
he's coming up with it, because I think back at
the time he said he was worth like I think
he said eleven million, But since then his money's sort
of kind of dwindled, and he owes more than one

(34:19):
hundred and fifty one million to creditors. I'm sure half
of them are attorneys. But so that's it. So we've
got this one, and we've got three other ones. We
got the Georgia election, the federal election case, and then
the classified documents case. So stay tuned, folks, We'll see
how each one goes.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
He has put himself in a real pickle. And to me,
everyone blames Trump. And I'm not a Trump hater. I
don't want him in politics. Oh, but his antics, the charisma,
the way he speaks with such authority and so commanding.
He makes people believe the lies that he's oh he put.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
I think he believes complain.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
Well, but that is what is working. And I wish Biden.
I almost wish Biden would take a page out of
that book, because if you smoke with that kind of
authoritative rhetoric even though it was factual, because Donald Trump's
a lot of his stuff is not factual, but it's
the way he commands you to listen to him and

(35:21):
strong arm you. If Biden had a little bit more
of that, we might not be in the place that
we are at right now. But to me, it is
up to all women in this country right now, I'm
challenging all women. It is up to women with a
units or with doubt. So there's biological women and trading women.
It's up to us to win a selection. Because, like
you said, Bobby, your word wuha. He said in twenty

(35:43):
sixteen that was released when he was running for presidency
that he could walk up and grab women by the wuha.
He also said that he could shoot somebody dead before
on Fifth Avenue and get away with it. You are
allowing him to do just that. You are allowing him
to get away with the things that he done. He's
not doing this on his own. You all are letting
him out of fear, out of fear of pressure, out

(36:06):
of I don't want to be canceled, or I don't
want the people coming after me, or whatever the case
may be. And if you think that he would just
grab you by the huha. Now he wants to own
your wuha because he's single handily. A year ago, said
that he was instrumental in putting three conservative judges into
overturn Roe versus Weight after fifty years. But now he's
backtracking on it, Bobby, because he's losing the female vote.

(36:30):
So women, I need y'all to pay attention to this.
Y'all got the power. Women have the power this around.
Women always save the country, but women have the power. Yeah,
he said.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
I think it was a month and a half ago.
I mean, polls are showing. There were new polls out
New York Times in Siena or Sierra College came out
and there's only one point between them. Trump is still
on top, but the margins are closing. And I agree
with you about Biden. He doesn't speak that way. He
comes across to people. He's more uncle Joe or Joe

(37:03):
your best friend. He kind of gets down and he talks,
and that's how that sounds. I wish he had a
little more of them, and I wish, but that was
never his style. But I wish now where everybody is
counting him out because he's old, even though the other
one's only three years younger. I wish he had he was,
he sounded stronger. It's just not his It's just not
his way, unfortunately. But anyway, I'm hoping that it gets

(37:29):
closer and closer and closer, and in the more that
the other one screws up, I'm hoping people can kind
of see things for what they're at.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
As they say, sometimes you have to meet people where
they're at. I think if your body could get a
little more aggressive, and not in a mean way, but
in a I'm standing on business way, like this is it,
this is the state Union. Yeah, if he could get
I think people would see him in a different light
and they won't see him as so rickety or a

(38:00):
shaky because I strongly believe that people are not worried
about Biden being so oh. They're more worried about Kamala
being too close to being the president of the United States, honestly,
And I don't know.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
How I feel about that either, because I don't know
how I feel about her. Sometimes I think she's well spoken.
I mean, it's what it's going to come down to.
It's really not Kamala, it really is for all intents
and purposes. It is Congress and the Senate that run
the country, and then the president sort of guides them
right and says what's acceptable. They're like the big parent

(38:32):
or or the babysitter. So you know, I think she's
going to have a good team around her. But because
I think that Biden has had an excellent team around
him surrounding him. It's how he's gotten so much passed
and through in his first term. But but you've said
something there. Yeah, absolutely. I mean the something that happened

(38:56):
in Congress this week that I was actually kind of
happy about is they finally got that surveillance bill passed.
It's a modified one because Trump didn't want he wanted
smaller margins. He didn't want it to be extended for
like four years or six years or or whatnot. But
it was ahead of the April nineteenth deadline, that Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Act, where we can listen in without warrants

(39:17):
to outsiders and people who might people might who might
do harm to us. So I was thrilled to have that,
and even though Trump didn't want it. I saw Trump
at Mara a Lago. I don't know what Johnson was
down there for but they were hand in hand like
best paths. And Trump was saying that he was doing
a very good job considering that the position that he's in,

(39:40):
which I was shocked because Marjorie Taylor Green is just
so far up President Trump's but and she is she
thinks that Johnson is, you know, the number one villain
right now in the house.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
So Johnson was then look at with the Mireau Maz.
I wouldn't look at it either with the beer room Mas.
That's stringy hair and that Mega had on nor thank you, Wow, Bobby.
Were close. We are almost we almost to the finish
line of season number three.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
We are this is this is fifty nifty fifty and
so we have fifty one fifty two, so we're right
around the corner. Everybody, Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
Thank you, and we appreciate you guys. We understand that
this show could not be a successful at you guys listening, subscribing,
sharing with your friends, you know, and this is an
open form. Next season we will have we will have
you guys be able to call in. We will have
some visuals. So we're going to change it up because
we want the laugh larn to grow and we want
you to grow with us because it's very important that

(40:45):
we talk about politics. I know it's taboo some places
and some people don't want to talk about it, but
it is very very necessary, especially with what is going
on in this country right now. So thank you guys
so much for making laugh a learned. Thank you trying
to produce so mister Aaron Howell for keeping us on
even keel and keeping us on tight schedule. April twenty
sixth and twenty seven, I will be in Colleen, Texas

(41:07):
at twice It's twenty Comedy Club. But the Black Effects
Festival will be going on in Atlanta, Georgia, So if
you have not gotten your tickets for that, I employ
you to go. Weezy Horrible Decisions will be there. I
think anybody stopping is a part of it. Jess Hilarius
and Charlamagne the Gud will be hosting it so for
the Breakfast Club and we will be at the Breakfast

(41:28):
SLF Tuesday, so we will talk about it again on
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(41:50):
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Speaker 4 (42:26):
Because of mind is a terrible thing to waste.

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