May 18, 2023 • 47 mins
Flame is back this week discussing the fallout behind the expiration of Title 42, California reparations, Trump vs. DeSantis (Round 147) and much more. Joining the conversation is resident flamette, Bobbi Clifford. Tune in and comment in the socials below.
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Flame were Flame.
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come in with last and come.
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knowledge from fatherhood to politics.
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Shouting now comics, just paying homage. What's up? Tips? Yeah?
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You know she raised shot towns on speaking to the
grown a second year.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We're gonna last cut him and kicking and at again.
We leave it with just a lifted spirits that you
want to revisit. So your first second listen, young folks,
so you slip, oh folks that we dig it good?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Hey, no fish do what you do?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
No do what you do? Can't?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
No fish do what I do?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
This week, well, hello, welcome to Laughing Like Lady.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I am your host, Flame Roe, and along with my
fantastic producer mister Aaron, we are going to give you
a show this week. I know I'm a little late
behind on this week, but guess what, I had a
lot of life stuff happening to me this in this.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Past week and a half. But I am back here and.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I brought my friendly neighborhood spider woman with me because
you know, I cannot do a show without the smartest
woman I know.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I've said I totally two smart women I know.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
That would be Bobby Clifford and tt Jan And today
I have Mike Bobby Clifford here with me.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Hyatu.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Hi. How are you doing, Bobby.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
It's been a very up and down roller coaster riding
the week, but I kept my faith. I'm still here
working and I'm here with you. I lovely Bobby. So
we're gonna have a great show for you guys.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Today. We're gonna cover a Hodgepodge and the barage things.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Last week I was saying, yeah, like I told, I
was in New York, but I'm home. We did Free Voices.
The return of Free Voices was last night. And when
I say return, it wasn't like we quit. We just
I was off for two weeks and they were closed
down four weeks.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
So we're back.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
It was a fantastic show. I'm going to Yellow Springs
this week next week and to be with Donielle Rollins
and Dave Chappelle for the Danielle Land and all the festivities.
And I will keep you guys closed with pictures and
the breast of everything. I am doing a couple of
chapter rings. Mister James Hannaham the author of did't nobody
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give a shit what happens?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
To call out of the book that.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I did audible for coming up, and I'm excited about that.
But today we are here as Americans to just discuss
what's happening in our America, in our country, because guess what,
it is our country. And I know y'all make y'all
complaining about migrants coming in and migrants com We have
so much barren land in the United States. They all
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these different Texas, Florida, California, Montana. Whyoming have open land,
open land, open land bill places for these people to
I think it's my opinion.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
I ain't got no money to do all that, but
I'm just saying I think that we should build places
for those people to live.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
We keep complaining about the economy and how much people
don't want to work for such amount of money.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
A lot of those migrants, that's a lot of those foreigners,
because I'm not gonna call them migrants.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
They just fall into this land, are coming over here
looking for different and better opportunities. Some of them work
for a dollar an hour. I'm sure they'll work for
ten dollars an hour and won't complain about it. And
we'll make the best of it because they are not
in timely, it's spoiled.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Like US Americans.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
They will make the best out of what they have
or what they have to do with what they have,
because like us, a lot.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Of them have lived off less. That's the truth.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
And since I opened that can of Warren's, Bobby Clifford,
since I started then, I know we want to go
to start with this. And I talked about the foreign
people coming over to this land, and I said, they're
gonna do the best with what they have.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Let's talk about reparations. I know it wasn't first on
the document. I'm really need to my joke is.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I need a reparation checking my man name man and
my woman name Bobby. Let me ask you a question
because with all because what are they saying about reparations?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
How do you, Bobby Clifford, feel about reparations coming forward
the country?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Coming as a white woman, I think that we need something.
And actually, if I could put like a two point
two second pause on the reparations, I'm sorry, I want
to go back to what you said about the migrants
and you said that US Americans don't want to be
it's the truth. The young kids don't even want to
work in a grocery store, never mind pick in our food,
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et cetera, et cetera. So we need someone to do it.
And if the right people come in immigrants and is
an absolute mess, as we all know, and it's not
under President Biden Title forty two. The pandemic's over. That's
what it's for. It's only for a pandemic. It's over.
It's over as of the eleventh, So it had an
end as of the eleventh. Do we need work. We
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need a ton of work on it. We need some
sort of filtration system on the Mexican side too, as
they're coming through. We need places to put these people
in hold well where we're vetting them. But once they
are vetted and we have people that are coming through,
I agree, And I don't even say build things for them,
flam give them tenths or something to start out with,
like if there's land or somewhere that they can go.
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I mean, I'd like to be able to build, but
if we don't have financial money to do that, put
them somewhere. But I like having my salads. I like
them their willingness to work. They're hungry because they're immigrants,
like most of our people were when they came over.
They wanted to work. They you lived twenty people in
a room, you didn't care as long as you had
a little bit of space and maybe a tiny piece
of a blanket. So that's all I wanted to say.
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I'm not against people coming over at to the American dream.
We just have to kind of do it the right way,
and we have to have an infrastructure for it.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Well here's a killer.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
You said something that was very, very very smart to me.
You said, we can't pick and choose the right You
said the right ones. How can we ever determine which
is the right one. Look at all the mass shootings
that have happened in this country, with so many different
young people. I'm not just gonna stay white. I'm gonna
say young people, you can't. And some of them have
grown up privileged and entitled and in good homes with
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both parents, with money, never had but go on a rampage.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
So we would think that those would be the good ones.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
But it's true, But I'd say obvious things like I
don't know what they call it a Mexican but like felon,
somebody who has violent crimes ties to the cartel, a
drug history, drug sale, not of taking drugs, but a
drug sale history. If we can somehow feel to.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Those you so white, I love you, I am, I am.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So we can get those people. We get those people out,
or at least get those numbers down.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
So let me tell you how you get around there.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
You could pay a border patrol a thousand dollars to
forget to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
That's what I'm saying. It's so many different illegal, tangible ways.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I love the innocence of how you think, Bobby. I
love that you see the good and people, and I
love to see the good and people. I just know
how corrupt people are.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
You just said it.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I mean that we need something that comes backs that.
So we need, but we need something playing. We really
can't say everybody come on in. I mean, you know
there's not enough room.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
No it's not well it's enough room. I don't think
it's enough.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
It's the interest, yeah, in infrastructure, So we need hope,
we need hospitals. We were just talking, so you just
mentioned about the mass shootings. We have a a massive,
massive mental health crisis here in the United States. Ps
from US Americans. What are we going to do when
we're taking all of these these huge numbers in. We
need to be able to have people to service these people.
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So we can't bring everybody in at once. You can
do it a little bit at a time. And I'm
really sorry. I didn't mean to get you off of reparations,
but I thought that was an important topic.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I love, Bobby, this is our show, this is what
we do. We do in our banter whoever you know,
we talk. I love the different I love different pov
and I love it when there is we were, when
it's two adults having the conversation because keys are you
grown ups?
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Works to step out no.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And that's I love to learn. So I love I mean,
I love hearing it. I know, I know there's corruption,
but I like that you reminded me, but that we
need to have something in place. There has to be
something and and it's not a it's not a popular
topic in politics. In fact, it's that ugly, that ugly
uncle that you know everybody keeps shoving in the room
and closing the door. But you know, we got to
open the door up and we're going to do something
with it. Hiding it and sweeping it under the carpet
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for the past sixty years hasn't gotten us anywhere. It's
gotten us into the crisis that we're in now.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Oh, you just taught me a very valuable lesson. So
white people say it's the ugly uncle. Black people say, oh,
that's the uncle. Here, a little tick tick boom here,
a little special.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Don't go wrong with Uncle Jeffrey. Uncle Jeffrey a little strange.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Don't and don't let him sit, don't sit there him,
don't sit on his lap.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Don't sit on his lap.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
That's boy or girl might not want you might not
let the dog with a cat sell uncle Jeffrey. Jeffrey
was a little creepy. Let me just say that's exactly
with reparations, though, Bobby, I do understand the pipe. I
would love to have a reparation chick. Let me just
be honest. But in looking at it the perspective of
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it all, I need them to have some kind of
censorship over that money, because, uh, if it's eighteen and
up here in California and I love my my governor,
Governor Gavenue. So we love Gavin here and he has
signed the bill to that UH African Americans in California,
if you were resident of California for more than a year,
you have idea and all that eighteen u F you
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will get a reparations check. Supposedly, I think it was
two hundred and twenty three thousand dollars. I'm not sure
it might be a boy now up to one.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Point two million. I'm sure they're saying it could be
up to one point two million. I don't know how
I feel about the money piece.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Well, I like the money piece.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I think because we never got we were promised forty
acres and a view, and since we never did it,
I guess they're making up for our forty and forty
acres and a mule. But on the flip side of that,
as a as an African American person, as a black
person in this country, who know a lot of black
people that if you give them one point two million
dollars or two hundred and twenty three thousand or two
hundred dollars right now, they're going to go straight to
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the hype man and get to get products and get
woo woo woo.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
It is crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
That's any poor person you know, or anybody that doesn't
have the knowledge and hasn't been taught how to how
do you to manage their money? But I feel I
don't know, I feel a million different ways. A part
of me is, you know, the whole point of operations
is because you know you've been stripped of generational wealth,
and you've had health care, you know, lesser health care,
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and you know we could go on and on and
on and on. I feel like bolstering and making that
equal or better. I don't know. I don't know if
it should be a check or if it should be
a combination, or maybe a lesser of a check. But
but uh, you know, setting up some sort of college
if you want to go to college, and I don't
just mean college, it could be trade school, you know,
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some way for somebody to make money. I almost feel
like there should be a financial counselor attachment.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Okay, and on the flip side of that, because you
got to look at it all from all components.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
I don't want nobody monitoring my money.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I don't need you to know how much money I
got in the bank account right now, So why do
I would need the government to know what I have
and what I'm doing with my money.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Do you understand what I mean? No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I don't necessarily think that you have that they need
to look at it, but I would like to see
that they would offer the services. So flam if you
wanted to learn at your age at twenty seven, what's
the best way that you can spend safe and you know,
and leave that money to your kids because it is
supposed to be for generational while it's not supposed to
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just be for you. But you think a lot of
people might just think, as you just said, they're going
to go out and buy the best car, the best dish.
But you're supposed to be it's supposed to be making
up for something, and it's supposed to be laying the
foundation for your children, your grandchildren, your great grandchildren, what
you were stripped of.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Well, you made a very valid point when we were
talking about that boy it because, like you.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Said, the youth doesn't want to work. And I think
because you can make such fast.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Money on the internet.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
You can make instant money on YouTube and Instagram and
only fans and they are used to making these massive amounts.
They're getting These young kids are getting chicks from sitting
at home doing whatever they're doing for twenty five and
thirty thousand dollars. Why would I go work for fifteen
dollars an hour when I could sit at home and
they and the fetishes of the world. People want to
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watch you eat, They want to look at your feet,
they want to watch you bathe, they want to watch
you comb your hair. So if I can make money
doing that, why would I ever want to go to
a job where I have rules and regulations and you
know it to me, Bobby Clifford, this country or this
world damage itself.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
It's true, I mean, because there's a point, as we
all know, with everything flame, things disappear, you know. So
YouTube and social media is hot today. You and I
grew up without it. It could flip on a dime
and become something else next week. So are you going
to be able to pivot and make the money still
or should you have a skill to be able to
make that money? If you don't have if you don't
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have YouTube anymore.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
We'll be next next year it'll be called AI.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah. True, that which is scaring them.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
But Jesus, thank God, Bobby, let me tell you them.
I don't have a lot of fears, but that whole
AI situation scares the hell out of me, and it
just does.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
I hope, I hope that we get a resolution for
the reparations chake I do.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I'm not discredit that I think that people this country
owes African Americans for all the work in labor and
rule ancestrally.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
But I hope that they come up with a great
plan to where people who.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Are irresponsible have It's kind of like when people who
get solid security checks or or get retirement checks and
they are little, you know, they don't have they're not
all together. They have a payee or they have somebody
to covet their check in order to make you And
I hope they have somebody covet the pay ease because
I know a whole lot of pay e's they run off.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
With people checks. I know.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
True, but then you've got your civil rights right, and
then you'll have people squawking about that. I want to
know how they're going to do it, because the last
I heard, California was twenty two billion in the in
the red. So I'm like, where they come up with
eight hundred billion for the reparation checks.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
You know they're gonna do is cut down a few
more trees and print some more money. Oh did I
say that? Did I say that?
Speaker 4 (14:50):
By And here's the biggest experience that I I feel.
So they want to give us a check for one
point two million or whatever the amount is going to be.
But the deficity of saying that the dollar ain't gonna
be worth Deadley squad. I think we're gonna get checks
the day before the dollar crashes.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Probably, And well they tax it? Or do you get
a lump sum? Or do you get increments? And what
happens if you've got like you've you've got a minor
What happens to Zeti's money? If you get she gets it,
does it go in an account and then when she
ages out she had collected interest in that money. Or
just when you age out you get the lump sum?
Or I I have a million questions for this.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
The first question you already know the answer to this
is the United States government? Are they going to tax
what have you lost? They tax you to go peep, Hey.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I live in Taxachusetts, so you don't have to tell me.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
We at ten point two in California, ask me why.
I know that exactly because today I went and got
my daughter another car and it was ten point two
for the damn taxes.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Ugh, I can't even we're six point twenty five, I think.
And then that this brings me to another question. And
I don't know enough about the California reparations. What about
the japan were held in the internment camps and they
were stripped of everything that they owned, They owned businesses
and whatnot. Are they going to be be able to
get anything for that?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Well, they didn't help build the country.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Well they built so well, that's probably the Chinese who
built the who build the railway, they built something.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Didn't build this country. The slave slaves built this country.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So I'm not saying that big check. I'm just saying
I mean there was like your parents.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Did work about about the Asians. They got they when
Joe Biden became the president, he signed the Bible to
protect them.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Em easy.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
They can wait their turn. We have waited for hours
for four hundred years. The Asians can wait.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, that's so That's what I'm just thinking. That would be.
I would think that would be next up right, would
be people complaining about that. That's all I got about reparations.
I'm trying to see if there's anything else here. I
thought it was very brave of him in twenty twenty
to do the study on reparations and that it came
back that you know that you're something. Yeah, I'm just curious.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah and so and let so now let's go back
to the beginning.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Body.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
So I got reverence because I was last week I
watched the town hall Donald Trump held the town hall CNN.
First of all, I got an issue with CNN giving
this clown some space, but I understand that we're trying.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
To be fair.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Secondly, I really have the biggest issue with CNN for
putting Trump up against a female. Trump is known to disrespect,
destroy walk over, push back, and then they didn't give
then put the right female with him. And it's not
that I don't think that Calen Collins was professional. I
think she's articulate. I think she could do the job.
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But because he was so rude and so disgruntled and
so this and that's when I wanted to trade places
with her immediately, because if he would have said you're
a nasty person, I would say that's maybe true. But
I'm the only one on this stage right now that
is not being accused of several and multiple rates. It
looks a little stormy in this room, doesn't it. Right now,
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see somebody who can match wits with Trump? Because Trump's
Trump's device is to pick you apart, tear you up
in your face while the audience is living for him.
And you get this shovel or you get angry, you
got to take the emotion out and remember who you're
talking to, and you got to match fire with fire.
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Donald Trump would not stand the chance with playing Monroe.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I mean, he peaked, definitely peaked in the sandbox, because
that's what that's what little kids. He's like a child.
I feel like he sounds like a twelve year old
out on the arm.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
And for the people who they are supporting him and
the people that are voting for him. Now, if you
do not understand that he has not changed. In fact,
he has gotten worse because he believes it more. Even
now y'all believed for him, but now he even believes it.
And hit me when I tell you that he said
that he would pardon most of the insurrectionists. Yeah, but
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it was the greatest day, one of the greatest days
in America. It was the biggest crowd that he has
had sing because there was more people there than was
that his inauguration.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Let's be honest.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
He packed and packed. That's what I was disappointed was.
I'm sorry to interrupt. I was so disappointed with CNN
that they allowed him to pack it. It looked like
his twenty sixteen election campaign. It wasn't you should have
everybody be able to be in the room, not just Republicans.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Well, I think looking at that, because he is so
insightful for riot, I think that they thought that they
would have had half and half because he has said
it publicly before when he was campaigning, or I take
him outside and punched their lights out, bust him in
the face, you know, so they don't know if he
would have inside another right. This is a man who
has turned the country on itself. This man, single handley
(19:42):
had a great hand in turning America against America. And
we watched it publicly, and you they we allowed it.
And people are saying that, oh, it was a tourist attract.
It's ridiculous for them to think things like that. But
and he said before that when she asked him if
you lose, would you concede or you vow ow gracefully?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
He never has the case. He said, if it's fair,
he's never going to think it's fair if he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Win, if he doesn't win, it's never going to be fair.
And he told y'all the last time he was not
leaving the office. If we give him another opportunity to
become the president of these United States, not only will
he not leave the office, but he would destroy his
country out of malicious and anger and payback because he's
on some revenge to me. He's this is my opinion,
(20:26):
he's on some revenge stuff to me. And it ain't
towards black people. It is towards all kind of people.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Oh, everybody, anybody that's not him or what he seems
deems as his peer, you know, with money, with you know, privilege.
It's it's it's funny. The people, the base that supports him.
He thinks nothing of them, do you know what I mean?
Like they are not his people, but yet they cling
to him like a tick on a on a hound dog.
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He wasn't up there one minute. It was lying and
any any he spoke out, he just is hot off
of the siege. No, he didn't bother to show up.
He wasn't big enough a man for his hearing. But
he's hot off the press, he's got the he's got
the Egen Carol ruling, and he's disparaging her. And I
don't think. I'm thinking if she got him for disparaging
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and defamation, can she bring him back?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
She can.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I don't know if she would even take the I
don't know if you'd want it. But yeah, and he
said if he got out, he would bring back Michael Flein.
He said Michael Flen was a great man because Michael
Flein was the first one to take the foll Michael
Clen was the first one that took the prop him.
I'm telling you now, Bobby, but I said this on
coffee time four years ago, and we started lost people
follow lost people.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
That's the truth, and I mean it absolutely is is
the truth. But he's leading the polls for his party,
and that's how we got Siana.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Well, I'll tell you what, I'll take that over the
Santis because hear me, and hear me, well, I love that.
The only people who want the Santas is Florida. The
arrest of America has showed the Santus the door.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
We don't want you. You are just too much for us.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
We can't deal with your extremely and you're crazy thinking,
good god, he is signing a different deal every day.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
To make people more and more afraid. I would not.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Oh my god, he's fighting with Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Who fights with Mickey Mouse many.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
But thanks me have a bedroom, so that's a little different.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
They say a mouseketeer area.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
The only thing I thought that that it's only because
I'm not a Trump fan, is that he's butting heads
with Trump because he feels that, uh, Trump made a
comment or implied at least that his six week band
on abortion was too stringent, and so he's going head
to head with him. But Trump won't say what he
thinks it should be, you know, like that's how he's
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going to tap dance around it. I'm thinking, geez, he
probably God knows how many he paid for over so,
I mean, I don't know. He just seems like he's
tap dancing.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
So but he is.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
He's got he signed something from sweeping my migration and relocation.
I mean, he sent a whole bunch of people to
sant Us up to Martha's Vinyon here, which is a
really bougie, beautiful island on the cape, and he thought
they were going to be shocked. They gave them rooms,
they bought them a bunch of black dog gear and
fed them. Yeah, before they they sent them back, so
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he didn't get quite the response he thought he was
going to get.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Wow, you know, Bobby, it is. This is why it
is important for us as Americans to take the time
to vote.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
And I know we want a third party, but I
do think that a third party right now would split
the vote. And we would love ye.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yes, I would love an independent party. I would love
something else too if I thought it was going to
do with the country any good. But right now it's
not the time. And I know people would think if
moving forward to here, but we haven't. We haven't met
what you're thinking. The country is either a Democrat or Republican,
that is it. Anything else with the vote.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
No, I agree right now where we're fighting for you know,
fun like Joe Biden, but we are fighting for democracy
in the soul of the nation. I don't care who's
in that seat that can actually do it, but we
definitely are. We had here in Massachusetts, our US attorney
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for the Massachusetts District Rachel Rollins is going to resign
by end of day on Friday. She's a black woman
that Joe Biden put into the position because they got her.
I think it's called a hicks uh Hatch Act violation.
She went to see Jill Biden at a at a
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fundraising event, and I guess, as a US attorney, you
can't do that. There's a few other things, but I'm
devastated because I thought she she was just getting started,
and I thought she was going to do a good job.
She's been in the job for about a year, big
on gun control, and I was really disappointed to.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
They go along.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
It is. I think that as a as a black
American Democrat, because I am a Democrat true to the bone.
But that's not to say that there are not a
lot of Republican policies that I don't agree with. I
do agree with a lot of Republicans, right. I don't
agree with the people that they put in place to
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push them, but there are a lot of I love
that get up and live off your own brow, live
off your own strict go to work, you know, take
care of your family. And even though I've had government issues.
I've had government things before. The only reason I've ever
needed them was because I was not treated fairly as
a as a black American or as a transgendered American.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
So I got a devil strike on it because because
if that wasn't the case, I could work.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
There's nothing I would much rather work than wait for
a check every month, a handout or give out.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
I would much rather go to work.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
It makes you feel better, Yeah, and it makes three
times the money. You know what you get to the government.
You're not You're not getting rich. So no, it's it's
much better, and you are right. You feel better about yourself.
And there are a lot of Republicans, Siri, you know
the Republicans want less government. It's hysterical. They want to
be in our uterus and they want to control that.
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But you know, I don't understand how those to those
two ideologies line up, But no, they don't. You know,
I don't want to pay for everything. No, you know,
for everybody. I am willing to give anybody a hand up.
You've got a mother that's got two three kids. I
want to send her to school or get her a
trade and pay for her to live comfortably and be
in a safe place with those kids while she's going
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to school or whatever, or if she's underemployed. But it's
a it's an essential position, like a PCA, a personal
care attendant. They don't make a whole hell of a
lot of money, and she needs to have something to
kind of bring her a whole. I don't mind doing
that as well. But for people who want to just
sit home and have a check and don't want to
work at all, you know, I don't understand that. That
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makes no sense to me.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
I think I'm gonna start being only fans and people
who have paidies with donuts. I'm just gonna sit up
and eat donuts. It ain't gonna do nothing for my ass.
But if he wasn't for my VEC account.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Oh my god, sprinkles are jelly.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Definitely jelly. I'm not like sprinkles, dude.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Oh my god, By Jesus, it's so it's so sickening
the way that the country is going.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I hate it. I hate the I hate the rage
and the anger. Even with the.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Nievy trial that we talked about last week, you know,
and me and you and I both said that we
were not going to talk about it until more details
have unfolded, more more details are uncoding. They have arrested
him and charged him with second degree manslaughter. Uh I
said that I didn't think that it was racist. Now
I do, and I'm not gonna say that just.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Because you know he was.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I think the arrogance and the audacity of how he felt,
like if you are a trained ex marine, you know
that holding somebody in a severe choke hold for more
than two minutes. He kept them in in a whole
choko for strong like that for four minutes. It's not
want to just subdue them, but you could cause permanent structure.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
To their lungs or their brain weighs because he had
them so strong.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
We were not on the train again like I see
it last time. But we don't know what the severity
of the situation was. But I did see that Neely's
brother came out and said that the New York mental
health facilities failed their brother.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
They that they failed him.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
He wasn't getting proper medication, he wasn't being treated properly
in wooa Woo. And I believe that with the pandemic,
a lot of things just got slowed down because we're
still trying to catch up from what happened for two
years two years ago.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
No, and I agree with that. I don't. I still
don't feel now. That doesn't mean that I might not
change my mind in a week or two years I
get more information, but I don't feel that this is
I don't feel that it's racially motivated. I think, you
know now we keep talking about him being an next Marine.
He actually looked more like a hipster to me because
he's in I think he's in art school or something.
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But he did have training. I don't know if he
I'm not gonna say p ATSD but if he's got
a reaction to help others and he kind of got
into it, I think adrenaline. You don't know how long
the time is. I will say the only thing out
of this he did collect one point five million as
of Sunday. I will say he's not asking for the money.
His law firm, who wants to be paid, is asking
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for the money they've raised one point five million. The
other piece of that though, that that was sort of nice.
What he's going to do with the overage if it
is above and beyond what his legal team needs, He's
donating it to a mental health advocacy group in New
York City. The proceeds from that, So I thought that
was kind of nice. I think it would be nicer
(29:41):
if they did it in the name of mister Neali.
I agree, so uh, but I think I think there's
a lot well, I feel like there's a lot there
because it can't be as simple as what we just saw.
So I'm hoping that they come up with more information.
I'm hoping justice regardless of the way. I know that
they had let him go right away. Based on what
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the interviews were. In his interview, I thought that they
would be some sort of I knew it would be
some sort of manslaughter. I don't I don't really understand
the one, two or three, but I think that that
that had a play out as well, because a life
is a life, and I uh, the other piece of
that that I had noticed when I was looking as
his mister Naillie's family was able to raise a little
(30:26):
bit of money for his for his funeral. So I
thought that is good, obviously, way less than what I'm.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Going to go.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
I'm going to definitely donate to the go FUM. I
saw that he donated five thousand dollars, so his campaign.
But and everybody, well, right, I'm like, well, have you
checked history here?
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Any changed?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
He has not straight away from the formula that he
was started on. Bullshit.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Oh, he's a he's a real republic like, he's a
he's exactly Trump's base. Like he's the person kind of
came from a certain way or lived his life a
certain way. So no, that doesn't shock me at all
that kid Rock donated.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
It's scary.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Prayers for the for the Neeley family. Uh, hopefully, hopefully
justice will be served. I know they raised all this
money and they're doing all that. But the reason these
lawyers are on that and this, this case is going
to get international attention. And I know we just we
just watched this, This just played out with George Floyd.
It's sad to see it turn around and happen again
(31:28):
and again. Anyway, but so soon after George Floyd.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
So prayers to everybody involved in it. Where we're going, Bobby,
what's next? What is next?
Speaker 3 (31:37):
I don't we did run to Santa Oh the death ceiling.
I think that's what we have. I know, Yeah, they
met today and I know that they said it was
something sort of sort of positive. Uh, you know, they
had a good feeling. The overwhelming consensus there's that there
was a productive and direct meeting.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
But they're cutting a lot of government program. They're gonna
cut a lot of social and government program.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Well, that's what the Republicans want. So President Biden doesn't
want anything, and I will say Mitch McConnell doesn't want anything.
Every every leader other than McCarthy has said, we will
not default. We don't want to tie anything to it.
We have to pay our bills, to pay our bills, period.
Do we have to discuss the other stuff and cutting
some maybe some of the fat maybe I don't know,
(32:26):
but but they shouldn't be It shouldn't be tied to
paying our bills, making us look like buffoons in front
of the rest of the world. And this has worldwide implications,
global implications. If we don't pay, you know, the stock
markets will go crazy, You'll have veterans and seniors not
getting their checks. I mean, really, this is what you want.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
I wish that we were still on vote number three
hundred and forty five with McCarthy.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Honest to god, it only took But should we should
still be counting.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
We've got to be doing something because I mean, we're
going to lose jobs. We're gonna it's it's just absolute
that account to me.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
You won't be at you as a not a senior way.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
You're a pre senior Caucasian woman going to the grocery
store with your bags. Girl, I'm afraid somebody won't rob
you of your money. They will steal your groceries. As
you go into your college, they'll.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Steal your groceries because theyre worth it. I went the
other day. I came out with two bags, flaming, just
two bags. Now there wasn't a whole lot in the
ninety eight dollars. I almost had a heart attack. I'm like,
I don't have any meat.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
I have no meat.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
You know, we have a store that you I have
a store that a shop and that's more reasonable. It's
called market basket. And then we have I don't know
if you guys had a Star Market or Shaws or
anything out in your area, but and stopping shop, they
you do the sale items. So I just went in
for a few sale items, not even a lot of detergents,
And I'm like, what did I spend every.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Ve?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I know, but why isn't it coming down now that
now that our supply chain stuff people are greedy. Although
they say the prices of eggs are starting to crash,
I hope they don't crack the eggs.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I mean, I know, an.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I'm got to go on some sort of diet because
let me tell you, let me tell you a terrible story.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Tell us we want to hear by because it's a
terrible story.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
So I had to go to the Jeep dealership to
have something done with my I had to have winchow
wipers put onto my This is my most embarrassing story
of my life doing I'm saying this so that maybe
I will humiliate myself and finally doing something about it.
So anyway, I go to to Jeep, I sit down,
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I kind of put my stuff on my wrap, and
I'm sitting in the chair waiting for them to put
my winchow wipers on because you have to have a
special horses ass bar. They got to put them on.
You can't do it yourself. So anyway, I'm in there
two minutes and I look to the right, and I
am not a flirty person. I look to the right
and the six foot four six foot five guy, a
little gray on his temple's, dark hair, blue eyes, handsome
(35:06):
as hell, fit and buff, probably five years younger than me,
I'm guessing, comes in and he's chatting and he's saying
something about it goes well, I'm supposed to be back
at work right now. So I had to interject because
he was too damn good look and I wanted to
see his face and I said, well, me too. So
then he starts talking with me, and for the first
time in twenty years, I think I started to flirt
with him. So something he says something about hYP and
(35:28):
he's being tall and the jeep's hard for that, and
I said, well, i'm tall too, for woman. Actually I'm
five ten, and he says, oh, stand up. I go
to stand up. Play the fucking chair. Excuse my language,
check us out. I'm like this, like trying to get
chair up.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
He thought he was, he thought he was working for him.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I thought like I was having a seizure. God forgive me.
I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I was trying to get it off. I'm working off,
I'm t working done. I'm shaking it on. This said, oh,
I think it's caught on my pants and almost pulled
my pants down. I was done well all of a sudden,
then he decided he needed to go outside.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
And he was going to enjoy the beautiful weather, and
he wished.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Maybe small they're making everything smaller.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
It works. I went in it and the fact came
out the bottom out of the side. It was like,
it's like like I take better on your on your griddle.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Wow, yeah, I'm that. I believe they want to get
these chicks because the dollar bill they're gonna be worth
ship the next day. So we have the check and
the money, the money, the check won't be worship.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I hope if people do get it claim. I hope
to God that that people are smart. You know that
they think of not just themselves. They think of the
generations that are coming, you know ahead, and and maybe
buy houses for themselves. And so I don't know, I
don't know if I want to see people with a
huge check or a decent sized check and more infrastructure
(36:59):
to help you with said if you need it, like
I said, lower lower and no student loan. You know
what is.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Bobby?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
I think we talked about the South blind is we
need bridge buildings. They need to start an organization call
it bridge builders, because if you go that's just like athletes,
like the athlete that's Morant, that's all in Morant, that's
all in the news now waving a gun and doing
ridiculous ship because he went from rags to riches overnight.
Nobody was there to walk him across that bridge and
(37:27):
tell him this is not what you do when you this,
when you and this tax brasket, this is not what
you You can't do that anymore.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
You have to do this way.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
You can't do it that way. You live in a
different lifestyle. You're not a different person, but you have
to present a different way. We need somebody who would
teach those people with that money that this is not
how you do this.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
But girl, that everybody is on a scam.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
So even if we had an organization called the bridge builders,
I'm afraid the bridge builder is gonna steal the money.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
So they're gonna be the bridge.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
That would be a good one. Get a little something,
But I don't know, I mean maybe you just said something.
Maybe in order to get the check, everybody goes to
six financial counseling sessions, you know, and learns how they
can save their money. And you know, like you listen
to Susie Orman, and she'll talk about saving twenty five
(38:23):
dollars a week in your twenties, every single week, you know.
I think she says, like one twenty a month. By
the time you hit sixty five, you'd have a million dollars.
If you saved that same twenty five dollars a week
in your thirties, just ten years later, you'll only have
three hundred thousand dollars. So that ten years cost you
seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars or seven hundred thousand dollars.
(38:43):
So it's sort of amazing when you think of it
like that. If somebody in my twenties had explained that
to me, I think that would have made all the
difference in the world. But because I didn't, I thought, oh,
I have time, I have time. I have time. Nobody
talks about the compound interest and you know, and how
important it is to have your credit good because you
get lower interest rates on things, and et cetera, et cetera,
(39:05):
et cetera.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Oh well, yeah, that's something about it. Mh.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
But so that they would probably say, you know, no,
i'd rather.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
If you if we that's what the stipulation needs to be.
If you don't go and do it this way, you
can't get it. You can't get it.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah, something because you want you want people to be
able to, you know, have something for their kids when
their kids go to school and you want to have something.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
You want them to have something next week. People who
have never been or never had, who've been poor and
struggling and.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Hustling, if you can hit them with a want of money,
they lack a dog in a cage, they go reserve.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
You know, and yeah, it goes like this and you'll
realize it. You think there's more.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Yeah, yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
But I also think, but who's going to get it?
So that so there's the other part. This is the
white lady part of me. My people, as I told you,
came over in the twenties, so we had nothing to
do with good or bad with not that there was
any good with slavery. So if you're your African American
and your people came or not you're Jamaican and your
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people came over in the fifties, should they get a check.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
I don't know how they're going to trace it back.
I don't know how they're gonna do because I'm gonna
take some right now. I got a joke that's on stage.
The reason I never did my DNA ancestry because I
know how good Man is. I can only imagine with
great great great great great great great Grandmama and great
great great great great Daddy had.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
So yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
No, it's probably all kind of Portuguese and Dutch and
Iranian and everything else.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Running through me.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Oh yeah, but all you have to have is just
it's some of the black You know that they were
slave oriented, you know then, But I'm just thinking that's
or they came over in the seventies or the eighties.
I don't think those people should be entitled to the
same the same pot as as everybody else. But that's
the lever in me. It's gonna be fair.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Okay, Well, you know what, Bobby, We're gonna find We're
gonna sit back and find out. And when I winning,
if I get my big old reparations check, Bobby, I'm
gonna take you out to the biggest root Steaks Chris
House dinner.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Oh my god, But I want to know do they
have greens? No, you want to try.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
You can't eat everybody greens. First of all, that's like chitlings.
You can't eat everybody chicklings. You can't eat everybody's greens,
and you can't eat everybody's potato South you have to
have my greens.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
And if I take it to Roots Steaks, Chris House,
I want to make sure that they put you in
a booth. I guarantee you. That's why enough for that booty.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Oh I'm telling you, I wanted to die. I have
never been so embarrassed. At sixteen when my tube top
fell off, that's the only other time I think I
was as mortified as I think I was just embarrassed.
He ran out of there like.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Bobbie.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Thank you for being my guest today. My guests, go host.
You always keep me delighted. You always are fact you
and come with it, and you're chatty. We like chatty,
and I love the booty story, the cheer story. I
think I'm gonna I think I'm gonna spend change your
nickname to cheer tooths.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Yeah, fad ass me.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
We can't say fat ass, that's fat shaming.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
It. But if it's true that.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
You like they do, but they gonna be after you
like they after me, they'll do that.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Oh well, I don't know. I'm fat and I don't. Yeah,
I should be. I should be. I'm trying to shame
myself so I would get a cat.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Okay, you can follow Bobby Clifford on all social media
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(43:00):
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I started in Uh. The song is called c K
which is cop Killer by Macy Gray. It's out, It's
up on YouTube, it's up on world Star, and it
is doing pretty good. The reviews are pretty good. I
did it with a GoPro I'm gonna do. Macy came
(43:21):
to the well. She was supposed to come to the
club last night. Now, director Martin ma and Connor Bain
came last night and we hung out. We talked about
the back story. These are two twenty two year olds.
One is the age a young Asian boy and the
other one is a young White boy. They were self
taught how to edit, direct, do all these different things
on the internet during the pandemic. So some people made
(43:44):
great use of that time at home. Then they got
a chance an opportunity. This is like the third time,
a third project with Macy Gray, you know, and it's great.
And I'm so proud of these young men because I
watched to twenty two year olds become and I'm honey, their.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
Little minds, their little creative geniuses.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Because they were talking to me about some stuff and
I told them both one of you guys would direct
me and.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
The other one will beat my Quentin Tarantino on the right,
the greatest role for me. I'm gonna get you off.
We're gonna get us all oscars. They Bobby.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
I was so impressed by these young boys because we
keep hearing all the bad stories and the crazies and Mova.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
But they found a way of positivity during the pandemic
and they embarking on him and they're the nicest young man.
Oh my god, they were such They liked my little children.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
They have the hunger. That's what a lot of us
what the young kids don't have. They have that fire,
and when you have that fire in your belly, you
can do.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
When you guys watch the video, I take my wig off.
I was naked in it, but we took that part out.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
I didn't want y'all to see my goodie ud. So
thank you guys for I told y'all take that part out.
I think that's what I was. I think that's what
young boys liked me. They was impressed. Anyway, Thank you
guys for joining us here.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
And I have to learn this in flames and everybody
out here in I G and what are we on
a podcast land? Thank you guys for joining us. And
remember I am not. I am not a broadcaster. I
am not a what do you call them when you
go to school? Damn it, I can't.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
I'm a newscaster when you do research and all of that,
when you a news reporter, I'm not. I'm not any
of those.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
I am a person with a personality and the spirit
at a platform that I use to push what I
know to be true, that I believe it's true. But
here's the killer with all of these podcasts and social
media and a cell phone or computer. There is a
line in the movie The Incredibles where the villain his
(45:48):
name was Syndrome, says he was going because the people
who had superpowers were famous and super. So he said,
I'm going to make everybody super because once everybody's super, no.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
One will be With the phone and the internet.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
If you got one follow or one million followers, you
think you deem yourself as samous, which means that nobody
is famous. I'm not saying that to say that you
are not famous. I'm just saying that to say you
have to see the value in you and not rely
on somebody else to see your value. You will lose
yourself every time. If you don't believe me. There were
(46:23):
seven point six million people in this country last year,
I mean a couple of years ago. They had lost
their value because they believed in a beacon hope that
had no light. This is slame Monroe, and here at
coffee time, we are never trying to get you to
change your man. We're only trying to get you to
use your man, because of mind is a terrible thing
to waste, and Bobby, you know a lot of wasting
(46:44):
a man. But send me my reparation shape. I ain't
gonna waste my money.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
I got it to do. Thank you guys for joining us.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
I will be in Harlem doing Harlem Pride June the
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This week, well, hello, welcome to Laughing Like Lady.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I am your host, Flame Roe, and along with my
fantastic producer mister Aaron, we are going to give you
a show this week. I know I'm a little late
behind on this week, but guess what, I had a
lot of life stuff happening to me this in this.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Past week and a half. But I am back here and.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I brought my friendly neighborhood spider woman with me because
you know, I cannot do a show without the smartest
woman I know.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I've said I totally two smart women I know.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
That would be Bobby Clifford and tt Jan And today
I have Mike Bobby Clifford here with me.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Hyatu.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Hi. How are you doing, Bobby.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
It's been a very up and down roller coaster riding
the week, but I kept my faith. I'm still here
working and I'm here with you. I lovely Bobby. So
we're gonna have a great show for you guys.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Today. We're gonna cover a Hodgepodge and the barage things.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Last week I was saying, yeah, like I told, I
was in New York, but I'm home. We did Free Voices.
The return of Free Voices was last night. And when
I say return, it wasn't like we quit. We just
I was off for two weeks and they were closed
down four weeks.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
So we're back.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
It was a fantastic show. I'm going to Yellow Springs
this week next week and to be with Donielle Rollins
and Dave Chappelle for the Danielle Land and all the festivities.
And I will keep you guys closed with pictures and
the breast of everything. I am doing a couple of
chapter rings. Mister James Hannaham the author of did't nobody
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give a shit what happens?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
To call out of the book that.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I did audible for coming up, and I'm excited about that.
But today we are here as Americans to just discuss
what's happening in our America, in our country, because guess what,
it is our country. And I know y'all make y'all
complaining about migrants coming in and migrants com We have
so much barren land in the United States. They all
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these different Texas, Florida, California, Montana. Whyoming have open land,
open land, open land bill places for these people to
I think it's my opinion.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
I ain't got no money to do all that, but
I'm just saying I think that we should build places
for those people to live.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
We keep complaining about the economy and how much people
don't want to work for such amount of money.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
A lot of those migrants, that's a lot of those foreigners,
because I'm not gonna call them migrants.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
They just fall into this land, are coming over here
looking for different and better opportunities. Some of them work
for a dollar an hour. I'm sure they'll work for
ten dollars an hour and won't complain about it. And
we'll make the best of it because they are not
in timely, it's spoiled.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Like US Americans.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
They will make the best out of what they have
or what they have to do with what they have,
because like us, a lot.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Of them have lived off less. That's the truth.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
And since I opened that can of Warren's, Bobby Clifford,
since I started then, I know we want to go
to start with this. And I talked about the foreign
people coming over to this land, and I said, they're
gonna do the best with what they have.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Let's talk about reparations. I know it wasn't first on
the document. I'm really need to my joke is.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I need a reparation checking my man name man and
my woman name Bobby. Let me ask you a question
because with all because what are they saying about reparations?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
How do you, Bobby Clifford, feel about reparations coming forward
the country?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Coming as a white woman, I think that we need something.
And actually, if I could put like a two point
two second pause on the reparations, I'm sorry, I want
to go back to what you said about the migrants
and you said that US Americans don't want to be
it's the truth. The young kids don't even want to
work in a grocery store, never mind pick in our food,
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et cetera, et cetera. So we need someone to do it.
And if the right people come in immigrants and is
an absolute mess, as we all know, and it's not
under President Biden Title forty two. The pandemic's over. That's
what it's for. It's only for a pandemic. It's over.
It's over as of the eleventh, So it had an
end as of the eleventh. Do we need work. We
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need a ton of work on it. We need some
sort of filtration system on the Mexican side too, as
they're coming through. We need places to put these people
in hold well where we're vetting them. But once they
are vetted and we have people that are coming through,
I agree, And I don't even say build things for them,
flam give them tenths or something to start out with,
like if there's land or somewhere that they can go.
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I mean, I'd like to be able to build, but
if we don't have financial money to do that, put
them somewhere. But I like having my salads. I like
them their willingness to work. They're hungry because they're immigrants,
like most of our people were when they came over.
They wanted to work. They you lived twenty people in
a room, you didn't care as long as you had
a little bit of space and maybe a tiny piece
of a blanket. So that's all I wanted to say.
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I'm not against people coming over at to the American dream.
We just have to kind of do it the right way,
and we have to have an infrastructure for it.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Well here's a killer.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
You said something that was very, very very smart to me.
You said, we can't pick and choose the right You
said the right ones. How can we ever determine which
is the right one. Look at all the mass shootings
that have happened in this country, with so many different
young people. I'm not just gonna stay white. I'm gonna
say young people, you can't. And some of them have
grown up privileged and entitled and in good homes with
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both parents, with money, never had but go on a rampage.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
So we would think that those would be the good ones.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
But it's true, But I'd say obvious things like I
don't know what they call it a Mexican but like felon,
somebody who has violent crimes ties to the cartel, a
drug history, drug sale, not of taking drugs, but a
drug sale history. If we can somehow feel to.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Those you so white, I love you, I am, I am.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So we can get those people. We get those people out,
or at least get those numbers down.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
So let me tell you how you get around there.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
You could pay a border patrol a thousand dollars to
forget to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
That's what I'm saying. It's so many different illegal, tangible ways.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I love the innocence of how you think, Bobby. I
love that you see the good and people, and I
love to see the good and people. I just know
how corrupt people are.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
You just said it.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I mean that we need something that comes backs that.
So we need, but we need something playing. We really
can't say everybody come on in. I mean, you know
there's not enough room.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
No it's not well it's enough room. I don't think
it's enough.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
It's the interest, yeah, in infrastructure, So we need hope,
we need hospitals. We were just talking, so you just
mentioned about the mass shootings. We have a a massive,
massive mental health crisis here in the United States. Ps
from US Americans. What are we going to do when
we're taking all of these these huge numbers in. We
need to be able to have people to service these people.
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So we can't bring everybody in at once. You can
do it a little bit at a time. And I'm
really sorry. I didn't mean to get you off of reparations,
but I thought that was an important topic.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I love, Bobby, this is our show, this is what
we do. We do in our banter whoever you know,
we talk. I love the different I love different pov
and I love it when there is we were, when
it's two adults having the conversation because keys are you
grown ups?
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Works to step out no.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And that's I love to learn. So I love I mean,
I love hearing it. I know, I know there's corruption,
but I like that you reminded me, but that we
need to have something in place. There has to be
something and and it's not a it's not a popular
topic in politics. In fact, it's that ugly, that ugly
uncle that you know everybody keeps shoving in the room
and closing the door. But you know, we got to
open the door up and we're going to do something
with it. Hiding it and sweeping it under the carpet
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for the past sixty years hasn't gotten us anywhere. It's
gotten us into the crisis that we're in now.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Oh, you just taught me a very valuable lesson. So
white people say it's the ugly uncle. Black people say, oh,
that's the uncle. Here, a little tick tick boom here,
a little special.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Don't go wrong with Uncle Jeffrey. Uncle Jeffrey a little strange.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Don't and don't let him sit, don't sit there him,
don't sit on his lap.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Don't sit on his lap.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
That's boy or girl might not want you might not
let the dog with a cat sell uncle Jeffrey. Jeffrey
was a little creepy. Let me just say that's exactly
with reparations, though, Bobby, I do understand the pipe. I
would love to have a reparation chick. Let me just
be honest. But in looking at it the perspective of
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it all, I need them to have some kind of
censorship over that money, because, uh, if it's eighteen and
up here in California and I love my my governor,
Governor Gavenue. So we love Gavin here and he has
signed the bill to that UH African Americans in California,
if you were resident of California for more than a year,
you have idea and all that eighteen u F you
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will get a reparations check. Supposedly, I think it was
two hundred and twenty three thousand dollars. I'm not sure
it might be a boy now up to one.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Point two million. I'm sure they're saying it could be
up to one point two million. I don't know how
I feel about the money piece.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Well, I like the money piece.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I think because we never got we were promised forty
acres and a view, and since we never did it,
I guess they're making up for our forty and forty
acres and a mule. But on the flip side of that,
as a as an African American person, as a black
person in this country, who know a lot of black
people that if you give them one point two million
dollars or two hundred and twenty three thousand or two
hundred dollars right now, they're going to go straight to
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the hype man and get to get products and get
woo woo woo.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
It is crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
That's any poor person you know, or anybody that doesn't
have the knowledge and hasn't been taught how to how
do you to manage their money? But I feel I
don't know, I feel a million different ways. A part
of me is, you know, the whole point of operations
is because you know you've been stripped of generational wealth,
and you've had health care, you know, lesser health care,
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and you know we could go on and on and
on and on. I feel like bolstering and making that
equal or better. I don't know. I don't know if
it should be a check or if it should be
a combination, or maybe a lesser of a check. But
but uh, you know, setting up some sort of college
if you want to go to college, and I don't
just mean college, it could be trade school, you know,
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some way for somebody to make money. I almost feel
like there should be a financial counselor attachment.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Okay, and on the flip side of that, because you
got to look at it all from all components.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
I don't want nobody monitoring my money.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I don't need you to know how much money I
got in the bank account right now, So why do
I would need the government to know what I have
and what I'm doing with my money.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Do you understand what I mean? No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I don't necessarily think that you have that they need
to look at it, but I would like to see
that they would offer the services. So flam if you
wanted to learn at your age at twenty seven, what's
the best way that you can spend safe and you know,
and leave that money to your kids because it is
supposed to be for generational while it's not supposed to
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just be for you. But you think a lot of
people might just think, as you just said, they're going
to go out and buy the best car, the best dish.
But you're supposed to be it's supposed to be making
up for something, and it's supposed to be laying the
foundation for your children, your grandchildren, your great grandchildren, what
you were stripped of.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Well, you made a very valid point when we were
talking about that boy it because, like you.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Said, the youth doesn't want to work. And I think
because you can make such fast.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Money on the internet.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
You can make instant money on YouTube and Instagram and
only fans and they are used to making these massive amounts.
They're getting These young kids are getting chicks from sitting
at home doing whatever they're doing for twenty five and
thirty thousand dollars. Why would I go work for fifteen
dollars an hour when I could sit at home and
they and the fetishes of the world. People want to
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watch you eat, They want to look at your feet,
they want to watch you bathe, they want to watch
you comb your hair. So if I can make money
doing that, why would I ever want to go to
a job where I have rules and regulations and you
know it to me, Bobby Clifford, this country or this
world damage itself.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
It's true, I mean, because there's a point, as we
all know, with everything flame, things disappear, you know. So
YouTube and social media is hot today. You and I
grew up without it. It could flip on a dime
and become something else next week. So are you going
to be able to pivot and make the money still
or should you have a skill to be able to
make that money? If you don't have if you don't
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have YouTube anymore.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
We'll be next next year it'll be called AI.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah. True, that which is scaring them.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
But Jesus, thank God, Bobby, let me tell you them.
I don't have a lot of fears, but that whole
AI situation scares the hell out of me, and it
just does.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
I hope, I hope that we get a resolution for
the reparations chake I do.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I'm not discredit that I think that people this country
owes African Americans for all the work in labor and
rule ancestrally.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
But I hope that they come up with a great
plan to where people who.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Are irresponsible have It's kind of like when people who
get solid security checks or or get retirement checks and
they are little, you know, they don't have they're not
all together. They have a payee or they have somebody
to covet their check in order to make you And
I hope they have somebody covet the pay ease because
I know a whole lot of pay e's they run off.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
With people checks. I know.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
True, but then you've got your civil rights right, and
then you'll have people squawking about that. I want to
know how they're going to do it, because the last
I heard, California was twenty two billion in the in
the red. So I'm like, where they come up with
eight hundred billion for the reparation checks.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
You know they're gonna do is cut down a few
more trees and print some more money. Oh did I
say that? Did I say that?
Speaker 4 (14:50):
By And here's the biggest experience that I I feel.
So they want to give us a check for one
point two million or whatever the amount is going to be.
But the deficity of saying that the dollar ain't gonna
be worth Deadley squad. I think we're gonna get checks
the day before the dollar crashes.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Probably, And well they tax it? Or do you get
a lump sum? Or do you get increments? And what
happens if you've got like you've you've got a minor
What happens to Zeti's money? If you get she gets it,
does it go in an account and then when she
ages out she had collected interest in that money. Or
just when you age out you get the lump sum?
Or I I have a million questions for this.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
The first question you already know the answer to this
is the United States government? Are they going to tax
what have you lost? They tax you to go peep, Hey.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I live in Taxachusetts, so you don't have to tell me.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
We at ten point two in California, ask me why.
I know that exactly because today I went and got
my daughter another car and it was ten point two
for the damn taxes.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Ugh, I can't even we're six point twenty five, I think.
And then that this brings me to another question. And
I don't know enough about the California reparations. What about
the japan were held in the internment camps and they
were stripped of everything that they owned, They owned businesses
and whatnot. Are they going to be be able to
get anything for that?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Well, they didn't help build the country.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Well they built so well, that's probably the Chinese who
built the who build the railway, they built something.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Didn't build this country. The slave slaves built this country.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So I'm not saying that big check. I'm just saying
I mean there was like your parents.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Did work about about the Asians. They got they when
Joe Biden became the president, he signed the Bible to
protect them.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Em easy.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
They can wait their turn. We have waited for hours
for four hundred years. The Asians can wait.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, that's so That's what I'm just thinking. That would be.
I would think that would be next up right, would
be people complaining about that. That's all I got about reparations.
I'm trying to see if there's anything else here. I
thought it was very brave of him in twenty twenty
to do the study on reparations and that it came
back that you know that you're something. Yeah, I'm just curious.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah and so and let so now let's go back
to the beginning.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Body.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
So I got reverence because I was last week I
watched the town hall Donald Trump held the town hall CNN.
First of all, I got an issue with CNN giving
this clown some space, but I understand that we're trying.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
To be fair.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Secondly, I really have the biggest issue with CNN for
putting Trump up against a female. Trump is known to disrespect,
destroy walk over, push back, and then they didn't give
then put the right female with him. And it's not
that I don't think that Calen Collins was professional. I
think she's articulate. I think she could do the job.
(17:37):
But because he was so rude and so disgruntled and
so this and that's when I wanted to trade places
with her immediately, because if he would have said you're
a nasty person, I would say that's maybe true. But
I'm the only one on this stage right now that
is not being accused of several and multiple rates. It
looks a little stormy in this room, doesn't it. Right now,
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see somebody who can match wits with Trump? Because Trump's
Trump's device is to pick you apart, tear you up
in your face while the audience is living for him.
And you get this shovel or you get angry, you
got to take the emotion out and remember who you're
talking to, and you got to match fire with fire.
(18:22):
Donald Trump would not stand the chance with playing Monroe.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I mean, he peaked, definitely peaked in the sandbox, because
that's what that's what little kids. He's like a child.
I feel like he sounds like a twelve year old
out on the arm.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
And for the people who they are supporting him and
the people that are voting for him. Now, if you
do not understand that he has not changed. In fact,
he has gotten worse because he believes it more. Even
now y'all believed for him, but now he even believes it.
And hit me when I tell you that he said
that he would pardon most of the insurrectionists. Yeah, but
(18:55):
it was the greatest day, one of the greatest days
in America. It was the biggest crowd that he has
had sing because there was more people there than was
that his inauguration.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Let's be honest.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
He packed and packed. That's what I was disappointed was.
I'm sorry to interrupt. I was so disappointed with CNN
that they allowed him to pack it. It looked like
his twenty sixteen election campaign. It wasn't you should have
everybody be able to be in the room, not just Republicans.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Well, I think looking at that, because he is so
insightful for riot, I think that they thought that they
would have had half and half because he has said
it publicly before when he was campaigning, or I take
him outside and punched their lights out, bust him in
the face, you know, so they don't know if he
would have inside another right. This is a man who
has turned the country on itself. This man, single handley
(19:42):
had a great hand in turning America against America. And
we watched it publicly, and you they we allowed it.
And people are saying that, oh, it was a tourist attract.
It's ridiculous for them to think things like that. But
and he said before that when she asked him if
you lose, would you concede or you vow ow gracefully?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
He never has the case. He said, if it's fair,
he's never going to think it's fair if he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Win, if he doesn't win, it's never going to be fair.
And he told y'all the last time he was not
leaving the office. If we give him another opportunity to
become the president of these United States, not only will
he not leave the office, but he would destroy his
country out of malicious and anger and payback because he's
on some revenge to me. He's this is my opinion,
(20:26):
he's on some revenge stuff to me. And it ain't
towards black people. It is towards all kind of people.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Oh, everybody, anybody that's not him or what he seems
deems as his peer, you know, with money, with you know, privilege.
It's it's it's funny. The people, the base that supports him.
He thinks nothing of them, do you know what I mean?
Like they are not his people, but yet they cling
to him like a tick on a on a hound dog.
(20:52):
He wasn't up there one minute. It was lying and
any any he spoke out, he just is hot off
of the siege. No, he didn't bother to show up.
He wasn't big enough a man for his hearing. But
he's hot off the press, he's got the he's got
the Egen Carol ruling, and he's disparaging her. And I
don't think. I'm thinking if she got him for disparaging
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and defamation, can she bring him back?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
She can.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I don't know if she would even take the I
don't know if you'd want it. But yeah, and he
said if he got out, he would bring back Michael Flein.
He said Michael Flen was a great man because Michael
Flein was the first one to take the foll Michael
Clen was the first one that took the prop him.
I'm telling you now, Bobby, but I said this on
coffee time four years ago, and we started lost people
follow lost people.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
That's the truth, and I mean it absolutely is is
the truth. But he's leading the polls for his party,
and that's how we got Siana.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Well, I'll tell you what, I'll take that over the
Santis because hear me, and hear me, well, I love that.
The only people who want the Santas is Florida. The
arrest of America has showed the Santus the door.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
We don't want you. You are just too much for us.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
We can't deal with your extremely and you're crazy thinking,
good god, he is signing a different deal every day.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
To make people more and more afraid. I would not.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Oh my god, he's fighting with Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Who fights with Mickey Mouse many.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
But thanks me have a bedroom, so that's a little different.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
They say a mouseketeer area.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
The only thing I thought that that it's only because
I'm not a Trump fan, is that he's butting heads
with Trump because he feels that, uh, Trump made a
comment or implied at least that his six week band
on abortion was too stringent, and so he's going head
to head with him. But Trump won't say what he
thinks it should be, you know, like that's how he's
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going to tap dance around it. I'm thinking, geez, he
probably God knows how many he paid for over so,
I mean, I don't know. He just seems like he's
tap dancing.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
So but he is.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
He's got he signed something from sweeping my migration and relocation.
I mean, he sent a whole bunch of people to
sant Us up to Martha's Vinyon here, which is a
really bougie, beautiful island on the cape, and he thought
they were going to be shocked. They gave them rooms,
they bought them a bunch of black dog gear and
fed them. Yeah, before they they sent them back, so
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he didn't get quite the response he thought he was
going to get.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Wow, you know, Bobby, it is. This is why it
is important for us as Americans to take the time
to vote.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
And I know we want a third party, but I
do think that a third party right now would split
the vote. And we would love ye.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yes, I would love an independent party. I would love
something else too if I thought it was going to
do with the country any good. But right now it's
not the time. And I know people would think if
moving forward to here, but we haven't. We haven't met
what you're thinking. The country is either a Democrat or Republican,
that is it. Anything else with the vote.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
No, I agree right now where we're fighting for you know,
fun like Joe Biden, but we are fighting for democracy
in the soul of the nation. I don't care who's
in that seat that can actually do it, but we
definitely are. We had here in Massachusetts, our US attorney
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for the Massachusetts District Rachel Rollins is going to resign
by end of day on Friday. She's a black woman
that Joe Biden put into the position because they got her.
I think it's called a hicks uh Hatch Act violation.
She went to see Jill Biden at a at a
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fundraising event, and I guess, as a US attorney, you
can't do that. There's a few other things, but I'm
devastated because I thought she she was just getting started,
and I thought she was going to do a good job.
She's been in the job for about a year, big
on gun control, and I was really disappointed to.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
They go along.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
It is. I think that as a as a black
American Democrat, because I am a Democrat true to the bone.
But that's not to say that there are not a
lot of Republican policies that I don't agree with. I
do agree with a lot of Republicans, right. I don't
agree with the people that they put in place to
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push them, but there are a lot of I love
that get up and live off your own brow, live
off your own strict go to work, you know, take
care of your family. And even though I've had government issues.
I've had government things before. The only reason I've ever
needed them was because I was not treated fairly as
a as a black American or as a transgendered American.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
So I got a devil strike on it because because
if that wasn't the case, I could work.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
There's nothing I would much rather work than wait for
a check every month, a handout or give out.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
I would much rather go to work.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
It makes you feel better, Yeah, and it makes three
times the money. You know what you get to the government.
You're not You're not getting rich. So no, it's it's
much better, and you are right. You feel better about yourself.
And there are a lot of Republicans, Siri, you know
the Republicans want less government. It's hysterical. They want to
be in our uterus and they want to control that.
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But you know, I don't understand how those to those
two ideologies line up, But no, they don't. You know,
I don't want to pay for everything. No, you know,
for everybody. I am willing to give anybody a hand up.
You've got a mother that's got two three kids. I
want to send her to school or get her a
trade and pay for her to live comfortably and be
in a safe place with those kids while she's going
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to school or whatever, or if she's underemployed. But it's
a it's an essential position, like a PCA, a personal
care attendant. They don't make a whole hell of a
lot of money, and she needs to have something to
kind of bring her a whole. I don't mind doing
that as well. But for people who want to just
sit home and have a check and don't want to
work at all, you know, I don't understand that. That
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makes no sense to me.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
I think I'm gonna start being only fans and people
who have paidies with donuts. I'm just gonna sit up
and eat donuts. It ain't gonna do nothing for my ass.
But if he wasn't for my VEC account.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Oh my god, sprinkles are jelly.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Definitely jelly. I'm not like sprinkles, dude.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Oh my god, By Jesus, it's so it's so sickening
the way that the country is going.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I hate it. I hate the I hate the rage
and the anger. Even with the.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Nievy trial that we talked about last week, you know,
and me and you and I both said that we
were not going to talk about it until more details
have unfolded, more more details are uncoding. They have arrested
him and charged him with second degree manslaughter. Uh I
said that I didn't think that it was racist. Now
I do, and I'm not gonna say that just.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Because you know he was.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I think the arrogance and the audacity of how he felt,
like if you are a trained ex marine, you know
that holding somebody in a severe choke hold for more
than two minutes. He kept them in in a whole
choko for strong like that for four minutes. It's not
want to just subdue them, but you could cause permanent structure.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
To their lungs or their brain weighs because he had
them so strong.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
We were not on the train again like I see
it last time. But we don't know what the severity
of the situation was. But I did see that Neely's
brother came out and said that the New York mental
health facilities failed their brother.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
They that they failed him.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
He wasn't getting proper medication, he wasn't being treated properly
in wooa Woo. And I believe that with the pandemic,
a lot of things just got slowed down because we're
still trying to catch up from what happened for two
years two years ago.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
No, and I agree with that. I don't. I still
don't feel now. That doesn't mean that I might not
change my mind in a week or two years I
get more information, but I don't feel that this is
I don't feel that it's racially motivated. I think, you
know now we keep talking about him being an next Marine.
He actually looked more like a hipster to me because
he's in I think he's in art school or something.
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But he did have training. I don't know if he
I'm not gonna say p ATSD but if he's got
a reaction to help others and he kind of got
into it, I think adrenaline. You don't know how long
the time is. I will say the only thing out
of this he did collect one point five million as
of Sunday. I will say he's not asking for the money.
His law firm, who wants to be paid, is asking
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for the money they've raised one point five million. The
other piece of that though, that that was sort of nice.
What he's going to do with the overage if it
is above and beyond what his legal team needs, He's
donating it to a mental health advocacy group in New
York City. The proceeds from that, So I thought that
was kind of nice. I think it would be nicer
(29:41):
if they did it in the name of mister Neali.
I agree, so uh, but I think I think there's
a lot well, I feel like there's a lot there
because it can't be as simple as what we just saw.
So I'm hoping that they come up with more information.
I'm hoping justice regardless of the way. I know that
they had let him go right away. Based on what
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the interviews were. In his interview, I thought that they
would be some sort of I knew it would be
some sort of manslaughter. I don't I don't really understand
the one, two or three, but I think that that
that had a play out as well, because a life
is a life, and I uh, the other piece of
that that I had noticed when I was looking as
his mister Naillie's family was able to raise a little
(30:26):
bit of money for his for his funeral. So I
thought that is good, obviously, way less than what I'm.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Going to go.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
I'm going to definitely donate to the go FUM. I
saw that he donated five thousand dollars, so his campaign.
But and everybody, well, right, I'm like, well, have you
checked history here?
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Any changed?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
He has not straight away from the formula that he
was started on. Bullshit.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Oh, he's a he's a real republic like, he's a
he's exactly Trump's base. Like he's the person kind of
came from a certain way or lived his life a
certain way. So no, that doesn't shock me at all
that kid Rock donated.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
It's scary.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Prayers for the for the Neeley family. Uh, hopefully, hopefully
justice will be served. I know they raised all this
money and they're doing all that. But the reason these
lawyers are on that and this, this case is going
to get international attention. And I know we just we
just watched this, This just played out with George Floyd.
It's sad to see it turn around and happen again
(31:28):
and again. Anyway, but so soon after George Floyd.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
So prayers to everybody involved in it. Where we're going, Bobby,
what's next? What is next?
Speaker 3 (31:37):
I don't we did run to Santa Oh the death ceiling.
I think that's what we have. I know, Yeah, they
met today and I know that they said it was
something sort of sort of positive. Uh, you know, they
had a good feeling. The overwhelming consensus there's that there
was a productive and direct meeting.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
But they're cutting a lot of government program. They're gonna
cut a lot of social and government program.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Well, that's what the Republicans want. So President Biden doesn't
want anything, and I will say Mitch McConnell doesn't want anything.
Every every leader other than McCarthy has said, we will
not default. We don't want to tie anything to it.
We have to pay our bills, to pay our bills, period.
Do we have to discuss the other stuff and cutting
some maybe some of the fat maybe I don't know,
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but but they shouldn't be It shouldn't be tied to
paying our bills, making us look like buffoons in front
of the rest of the world. And this has worldwide implications,
global implications. If we don't pay, you know, the stock
markets will go crazy, You'll have veterans and seniors not
getting their checks. I mean, really, this is what you want.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
I wish that we were still on vote number three
hundred and forty five with McCarthy.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Honest to god, it only took But should we should
still be counting.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
We've got to be doing something because I mean, we're
going to lose jobs. We're gonna it's it's just absolute
that account to me.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
You won't be at you as a not a senior way.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
You're a pre senior Caucasian woman going to the grocery
store with your bags. Girl, I'm afraid somebody won't rob
you of your money. They will steal your groceries. As
you go into your college, they'll.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Steal your groceries because theyre worth it. I went the
other day. I came out with two bags, flaming, just
two bags. Now there wasn't a whole lot in the
ninety eight dollars. I almost had a heart attack. I'm like,
I don't have any meat.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
I have no meat.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
You know, we have a store that you I have
a store that a shop and that's more reasonable. It's
called market basket. And then we have I don't know
if you guys had a Star Market or Shaws or
anything out in your area, but and stopping shop, they
you do the sale items. So I just went in
for a few sale items, not even a lot of detergents,
And I'm like, what did I spend every.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Ve?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I know, but why isn't it coming down now that
now that our supply chain stuff people are greedy. Although
they say the prices of eggs are starting to crash,
I hope they don't crack the eggs.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I mean, I know, an.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I'm got to go on some sort of diet because
let me tell you, let me tell you a terrible story.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Tell us we want to hear by because it's a
terrible story.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
So I had to go to the Jeep dealership to
have something done with my I had to have winchow
wipers put onto my This is my most embarrassing story
of my life doing I'm saying this so that maybe
I will humiliate myself and finally doing something about it.
So anyway, I go to to Jeep, I sit down,
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I kind of put my stuff on my wrap, and
I'm sitting in the chair waiting for them to put
my winchow wipers on because you have to have a
special horses ass bar. They got to put them on.
You can't do it yourself. So anyway, I'm in there
two minutes and I look to the right, and I
am not a flirty person. I look to the right
and the six foot four six foot five guy, a
little gray on his temple's, dark hair, blue eyes, handsome
(35:06):
as hell, fit and buff, probably five years younger than me,
I'm guessing, comes in and he's chatting and he's saying
something about it goes well, I'm supposed to be back
at work right now. So I had to interject because
he was too damn good look and I wanted to
see his face and I said, well, me too. So
then he starts talking with me, and for the first
time in twenty years, I think I started to flirt
with him. So something he says something about hYP and
(35:28):
he's being tall and the jeep's hard for that, and
I said, well, i'm tall too, for woman. Actually I'm
five ten, and he says, oh, stand up. I go
to stand up. Play the fucking chair. Excuse my language,
check us out. I'm like this, like trying to get
chair up.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
He thought he was, he thought he was working for him.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I thought like I was having a seizure. God forgive me.
I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I was trying to get it off. I'm working off,
I'm t working done. I'm shaking it on. This said, oh,
I think it's caught on my pants and almost pulled
my pants down. I was done well all of a sudden,
then he decided he needed to go outside.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
And he was going to enjoy the beautiful weather, and
he wished.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Maybe small they're making everything smaller.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
It works. I went in it and the fact came
out the bottom out of the side. It was like,
it's like like I take better on your on your griddle.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Wow, yeah, I'm that. I believe they want to get
these chicks because the dollar bill they're gonna be worth
ship the next day. So we have the check and
the money, the money, the check won't be worship.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I hope if people do get it claim. I hope
to God that that people are smart. You know that
they think of not just themselves. They think of the
generations that are coming, you know ahead, and and maybe
buy houses for themselves. And so I don't know, I
don't know if I want to see people with a
huge check or a decent sized check and more infrastructure
(36:59):
to help you with said if you need it, like
I said, lower lower and no student loan. You know
what is.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Bobby?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
I think we talked about the South blind is we
need bridge buildings. They need to start an organization call
it bridge builders, because if you go that's just like athletes,
like the athlete that's Morant, that's all in Morant, that's
all in the news now waving a gun and doing
ridiculous ship because he went from rags to riches overnight.
Nobody was there to walk him across that bridge and
(37:27):
tell him this is not what you do when you this,
when you and this tax brasket, this is not what
you You can't do that anymore.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
You have to do this way.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
You can't do it that way. You live in a
different lifestyle. You're not a different person, but you have
to present a different way. We need somebody who would
teach those people with that money that this is not
how you do this.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
But girl, that everybody is on a scam.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
So even if we had an organization called the bridge builders,
I'm afraid the bridge builder is gonna steal the money.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
So they're gonna be the bridge.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
That would be a good one. Get a little something,
But I don't know, I mean maybe you just said something.
Maybe in order to get the check, everybody goes to
six financial counseling sessions, you know, and learns how they
can save their money. And you know, like you listen
to Susie Orman, and she'll talk about saving twenty five
(38:23):
dollars a week in your twenties, every single week, you know.
I think she says, like one twenty a month. By
the time you hit sixty five, you'd have a million dollars.
If you saved that same twenty five dollars a week
in your thirties, just ten years later, you'll only have
three hundred thousand dollars. So that ten years cost you
seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars or seven hundred thousand dollars.
(38:43):
So it's sort of amazing when you think of it
like that. If somebody in my twenties had explained that
to me, I think that would have made all the
difference in the world. But because I didn't, I thought, oh,
I have time, I have time. I have time. Nobody
talks about the compound interest and you know, and how
important it is to have your credit good because you
get lower interest rates on things, and et cetera, et cetera,
(39:05):
et cetera.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Oh well, yeah, that's something about it. Mh.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
But so that they would probably say, you know, no,
i'd rather.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
If you if we that's what the stipulation needs to be.
If you don't go and do it this way, you
can't get it. You can't get it.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah, something because you want you want people to be
able to, you know, have something for their kids when
their kids go to school and you want to have something.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
You want them to have something next week. People who
have never been or never had, who've been poor and
struggling and.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Hustling, if you can hit them with a want of money,
they lack a dog in a cage, they go reserve.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
You know, and yeah, it goes like this and you'll
realize it. You think there's more.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Yeah, yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
But I also think, but who's going to get it?
So that so there's the other part. This is the
white lady part of me. My people, as I told you,
came over in the twenties, so we had nothing to
do with good or bad with not that there was
any good with slavery. So if you're your African American
and your people came or not you're Jamaican and your
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people came over in the fifties, should they get a check.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
I don't know how they're going to trace it back.
I don't know how they're gonna do because I'm gonna
take some right now. I got a joke that's on stage.
The reason I never did my DNA ancestry because I
know how good Man is. I can only imagine with
great great great great great great great Grandmama and great
great great great great Daddy had.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
So yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
No, it's probably all kind of Portuguese and Dutch and
Iranian and everything else.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Running through me.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Oh yeah, but all you have to have is just
it's some of the black You know that they were
slave oriented, you know then, But I'm just thinking that's
or they came over in the seventies or the eighties.
I don't think those people should be entitled to the
same the same pot as as everybody else. But that's
the lever in me. It's gonna be fair.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Okay, Well, you know what, Bobby, We're gonna find We're
gonna sit back and find out. And when I winning,
if I get my big old reparations check, Bobby, I'm
gonna take you out to the biggest root Steaks Chris
House dinner.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Oh my god, But I want to know do they
have greens? No, you want to try.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
You can't eat everybody greens. First of all, that's like chitlings.
You can't eat everybody chicklings. You can't eat everybody's greens,
and you can't eat everybody's potato South you have to
have my greens.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
And if I take it to Roots Steaks, Chris House,
I want to make sure that they put you in
a booth. I guarantee you. That's why enough for that booty.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Oh I'm telling you, I wanted to die. I have
never been so embarrassed. At sixteen when my tube top
fell off, that's the only other time I think I
was as mortified as I think I was just embarrassed.
He ran out of there like.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Bobbie.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Thank you for being my guest today. My guests, go host.
You always keep me delighted. You always are fact you
and come with it, and you're chatty. We like chatty,
and I love the booty story, the cheer story. I
think I'm gonna I think I'm gonna spend change your
nickname to cheer tooths.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Yeah, fad ass me.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
We can't say fat ass, that's fat shaming.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
It. But if it's true that.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
You like they do, but they gonna be after you
like they after me, they'll do that.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Oh well, I don't know. I'm fat and I don't. Yeah,
I should be. I should be. I'm trying to shame
myself so I would get a cat.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
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I started in Uh. The song is called c K
which is cop Killer by Macy Gray. It's out, It's
up on YouTube, it's up on world Star, and it
is doing pretty good. The reviews are pretty good. I
did it with a GoPro I'm gonna do. Macy came
(43:21):
to the well. She was supposed to come to the
club last night. Now, director Martin ma and Connor Bain
came last night and we hung out. We talked about
the back story. These are two twenty two year olds.
One is the age a young Asian boy and the
other one is a young White boy. They were self
taught how to edit, direct, do all these different things
on the internet during the pandemic. So some people made
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great use of that time at home. Then they got
a chance an opportunity. This is like the third time,
a third project with Macy Gray, you know, and it's great.
And I'm so proud of these young men because I
watched to twenty two year olds become and I'm honey, their.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
Little minds, their little creative geniuses.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Because they were talking to me about some stuff and
I told them both one of you guys would direct
me and.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
The other one will beat my Quentin Tarantino on the right,
the greatest role for me. I'm gonna get you off.
We're gonna get us all oscars. They Bobby.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
I was so impressed by these young boys because we
keep hearing all the bad stories and the crazies and Mova.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
But they found a way of positivity during the pandemic
and they embarking on him and they're the nicest young man.
Oh my god, they were such They liked my little children.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
They have the hunger. That's what a lot of us
what the young kids don't have. They have that fire,
and when you have that fire in your belly, you
can do.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
When you guys watch the video, I take my wig off.
I was naked in it, but we took that part out.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
I didn't want y'all to see my goodie ud. So
thank you guys for I told y'all take that part out.
I think that's what I was. I think that's what
young boys liked me. They was impressed. Anyway, Thank you
guys for joining us here.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
And I have to learn this in flames and everybody
out here in I G and what are we on
a podcast land? Thank you guys for joining us. And
remember I am not. I am not a broadcaster. I
am not a what do you call them when you
go to school? Damn it, I can't.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
I'm a newscaster when you do research and all of that,
when you a news reporter, I'm not. I'm not any
of those.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
I am a person with a personality and the spirit
at a platform that I use to push what I
know to be true, that I believe it's true. But
here's the killer with all of these podcasts and social
media and a cell phone or computer. There is a
line in the movie The Incredibles where the villain his
(45:48):
name was Syndrome, says he was going because the people
who had superpowers were famous and super. So he said,
I'm going to make everybody super because once everybody's super, no.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
One will be With the phone and the internet.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
If you got one follow or one million followers, you
think you deem yourself as samous, which means that nobody
is famous. I'm not saying that to say that you
are not famous. I'm just saying that to say you
have to see the value in you and not rely
on somebody else to see your value. You will lose
yourself every time. If you don't believe me. There were
(46:23):
seven point six million people in this country last year,
I mean a couple of years ago. They had lost
their value because they believed in a beacon hope that
had no light. This is slame Monroe, and here at
coffee time, we are never trying to get you to
change your man. We're only trying to get you to
use your man, because of mind is a terrible thing
to waste, and Bobby, you know a lot of wasting
(46:44):
a man. But send me my reparation shape. I ain't
gonna waste my money.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
I got it to do. Thank you guys for joining us.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
I will be in Harlem doing Harlem Pride June the
twenty fourth in Harlem, New York next month, and I
got some other stuff coming up.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
I can't think of the dates. I had a great time.
Thank you for joining us here at Laughing Alarn. We
appreciate you so much by your tots Aaron. Don't miss
an episode of Laugh and Learn.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
Listen and subscribe on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio
app or wherever you get your podcasts. Laugh and Learn
Podcast is a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network
and iHeartRadio. Our ejective producer is Tiffany Hattish. Our theme
music is by the one and only Chrissy Payne.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
Thank you guys. This is Flaming Row. Don't forget to laugh.
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