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April 30, 2026 45 mins

In this episode of Laugh and Learn, Flame Monroe and co-host Bobbi Clifford break down major political and social issues shaping today’s landscape, from military leadership and international relations to free speech and election season dynamics. The conversation examines how political decisions impact everyday citizens—especially soldiers and underserved communities—while calling attention to distractions that can shift focus away from accountability and real-world consequences. With candid commentary, they highlight the importance of staying informed in a rapidly evolving political climate.

The discussion deepens into racial injustice, political manipulation, and the growing disconnect between government leadership and the lived experiences of the public. Flame and Bobbi emphasize the power of community engagement, informed voting, and researching candidates to better understand policies and impact. Addressing economic challenges and representation, this episode encourages listeners to stay aware, ask questions, and actively participate in civic processes to ensure their voices are heard and reflected in leadership decisions.

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
We're Flame, we.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Say, if you watch your coffee time, the baby you
know the name Flame, my bro also known as my
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
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Speaker 1 (00:48):
In with Jim Love Lamb's baby.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
You better catch it when you can't drop a knowledge
from fatherhood to politics, shouting now comics, just paying homage.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
What's up tips?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
You know?

Speaker 4 (00:58):
She raised shot towns on speaking to the grown a second.
We're gonna last cut him and kick it and at
the end we leave it with just a listous spirits.
But you want to revisit, so your first second listen,
young folks. So it's lip old folks that we dig.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
It's good hein no this do what you doin't no
this do what you do?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Cain't no this do what I do? No.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Hey, hey, hey, this is comedian Flame Monroe and welcome
to this week's episode of Laugh and Learn, Ladies and gentlemen.
This week we might not do that much laughing, but
we damned you're about to do some learning. And we
cannot learn without the school teacher. And she is here
with her glasses on. How are you doing to?

Speaker 6 (01:57):
How were you?

Speaker 5 (01:58):
What have you been up to? It's like a school
You look like a school teacher today, Bobby.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I always Joe, I can't help it.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
I am a very nice I was. I woke up
in the most pleasant mood until I turned on the
news today and saw and saw something that disturve me.
That we're going to get to but I want to
start off by saying thank you guys for joining us
here at Laugh and Learn. Understand that we are on
our way almost two year six, but we need your support,
so please share. Please you don't go that podcast for

(02:30):
free on Black Effects. I high Spotify, Apple, Amazon, or
wherever you listen your podcast, and know that Bobby and
I will be here. I want to say this to
congratulations to the Black Effect Network because they just celebrated
six years in Atlanta this weekend day at the Pullman Yards,
and our producer Aaron said it was one for the books.

(02:51):
It was very very grand and he said that we
were missed. Me and Bobby gonna make it next year.
I was getting I was having a procedure.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
I don't even know. I'm not going to ask so
many questions about.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
That, Joe a joke. No, I just got picked to
be on Wild and Out Ladies and Gentlemen, So if
you guys, listen, I will be on the next season
Wild and Out. So I had rehearsals and I'm very
excited about it. So y'all make sure. Y'all look, I'm
gonna be the auntie, but I do uncle shit. Get
ready for a baby. It's gonna be something for the books. Okay,
let's get to it. Let's get too Let's get to
you know, mommy, I want to say this because I
was talking about this on my coffee time earlier. You know,

(03:26):
in the Bible, in the scripture with all the disciples,
the one disciple that Jesus trusted the most who turned
and Jesus knew he was going to turn on him
three times and say you're going to trade me three
times and I'm going to give you a kiss. It's Judas.
And I'm telling you you know who I think Judas
is in this administration. I think it's Heck said because
he was the one who was staying to lose the

(03:47):
to have the most drama because if they charge him
with war crimes.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Oh I know that, but I don't see him turning
on him. I don't, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
It was the one that he tried believe that it
is the weather he trusted the most, and I believe
that's going to be heaccept because Steven Miller is the
Lucifer period. If we had to put them with characters
in the Bible, Miller is Lucifer, I'll tell you. But
that's why I think it's going to turn on him.
And it is going to be scary, scary, scary Bobby

(04:20):
Clifford scary, scary, scary.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, I'm not. I'm yeah, I agree. I mean, hegccept
he's going He's going up. He's going up against a
couple of committees, so it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting.
I would love to see how he performs, you know.
I mean, he's going to be going up for that.
Remember they have a huge the Pentagon got a huge budget,

(04:46):
and he's going to be asking for one point five
trillion dollars more. No money for the little kids that
are that don't have any food. Nothing to bring down.
Are we con't bring down our prices?

Speaker 6 (04:59):
Gas?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Is it an all time high as a dollar and
a quarter than it was this time last year. But
we have one point five trillion to put towards a budget.
At least the request is and you know what I
want to say, what about the biscuits. All we needed
was one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for those goddamn business.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, You're going to have to let the
biscuits go. You really are going to have that business.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
And I have a new biscuit. I have a new
biscuit outrage. And I don't want to.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
Get off this topic, but I'm gonna mention it, and.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
We're going to go to it. After that goddamn ballroom
that's supposed to be privately funded. None of our money
is supposed to be used. That was the promise.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
Well, we're going to get to the business you jumping
a gun. But I want you to know we're going
to get to that because I want to talk about that.
Trump just appointed some new guy over the Navy, over
the Navy who happens to be anti trans, anti gay.
Uh just and I'm like in the Navy because my

(06:01):
daddy was in the Navy. And what I do though
that there are a lot of gaze in the Navy
like law. It's like it's almost a prerequisst. But I
just think that that is, you know, they don't want
this person. You try to exclude everybody. You started a war,

(06:23):
and then you want to dictate who and ken will
go and fight for this military. But you want to
have a draft to draft all of these people who
have nothing to do with this war. Nobody wanted this war,
but you guys, and we wasn't. We didn't need to
have a war with the ride it was. It was
totally unnecessary. So we're not going to be collateral damage
for your people. Meanwhile, they're doing all this propondu shit.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Pete.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Hecss sat there by me two weeks ago and quoted
was supposed to been quoting script from the Bible, and
quoted quoted something from a movie script. And they just
allowed us men to sit there. And he keeps firing
all of the people in positions of power in the
military that have been there for years, that no the
ends and out, they know the ways, they know, they
have relationships with other countries that they have worked on

(07:05):
and built, and he keeps replacing them with loyalists for Trump. Meanwhile,
the country is collateral damage. They've already admitted publicly today
allegedly that we are not winning this war that has
coused us since he started twenty five billion dollars today,
twenty five billion. I just looked it up, twenty five
billion dollars today.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
And you know what the high part of this is.
So you know, I wasn't for the war. I understand
that if you were maybe you know, defense minded. There
was no there was like the weapons of mass destruction.
There was no nuclear weapon. Yet they were harvesting stuff,
you know, some of the materials, but it wasn't going anywhere.

(07:49):
Do I understand that they were sort of on their
knees and if they were at a weak point and
it might have been a good time to go after them, maybe,
but they should have got Congress and involved and not
just got ahead and did what they did. Okay, but
we're in there, but now we conscious pull out even
though we'd love to. We're conscious because we've got to

(08:11):
finish the job. You know, we'll be in bolding them.
This is this is a different type of people. You know,
he's threatening them. Did you see that at like four
o'clock in the morning he put out he no more
missed a nice guy.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
Him was like a big uzi or something.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
If they don't pull it together, and they don't, they
don't come to a deal or whatever, and he's going
to blow them from he had a kingdom come basically
is what he was saying. I'm paraphrasing. That's not exactly
what the wording was. These people don't care. They don't
care if their people get knocked out.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Three.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
That's not a threat.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
Good threats don't work, Bobby, and and they've already created
they've already admitted on the news pretty much that we
are not winning as war. So we I suppose have
been the number one of the number one superpowers in
the world and we have got conquered Ronink that we
needed to pull out. We look weak. Why keep fighting
a war that we are not winning? Pull out now? Yes,

(09:07):
we should pull out now. And her mood, the straight
of her moods, is not we don't have that power.
We do not have that power, which means that it
is affected so many different countries. And China has already said,
don't say nothing to our people. We coming through, no
matter what, Russia, that we coming through, no matter what
it is. The antagonizm antagonizing from our country to show

(09:30):
somebody else, and then we're not even stronger than that country,
let alone the other two countries that look like they
want to join forces that are as superpower as we are,
if not more, especially China, which is super scary. They
come out the womb getting ready to They don't have
shows like my six hundred pound life. They don't have
fit and'll be shows. Everybody is shaping China and they

(09:51):
ready for battle. Listen, I'm telling you about it. I
don't understand this, but I think that the Heckseth is
going to be removed because I believe that the generals
and the mid people in the military, who know that
they are putting our country, he's putting our country in
such a vulnerable position, are going to finally stand up
on their behind legs and grow a pair and run
him up out of there because it's going to do

(10:12):
more damage to our country than it's going to do.
Just to those the boys and the soldiers over there's fighting.
And by the way, thank you to all the soldiers
over there that are fighting. Because from what we can
see on the on the on eggs or whatever, because
you can't see it on the regular news, they are
rationing food. They are having the hardest time, just the
vibeing and you want them can't sleep, not sleep comfortable,
and you want them to fight in a war. They

(10:34):
don't even have their whole mindset. When you don't get
a full, nice sleep, it affects everything.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
We are full belly, we know, little kids. I saw
though those pictures too, And what it is is it's
so it's not somebody. There are channels that are reporting
on it, but it's really the soldiers themselves taking pictures
and like you know, like say Jermarcus was in and
he's sending a picture to you, and they literally have

(10:59):
like an scream scoop of rice and a little bit
of chicken. One of the people wrove home to their mother.
They've already know how long has the war been going on?
And if you're a fit person anyway, and this kid
already has lost seventeen pounds by by the rations. But
we don't I don't understand is I don't understand, and
I don't understand it enough, like war ins general, Why

(11:22):
they're having to ration, Why we somehow can't get them
the food and get them what they need. It's got
to be their positioning. But this is dangerous stuff, you know,
we know with little kids, we scream. I was just
talking about the biscuits and I'm screaming about them because
kids need to have something in their bellies and vitamins
and their.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
We'll come back, come back, talk about we talk about soldiers.
Come back, come back, Come back, lady, Come back, lady.
We are talking about the soldiers that are over there.
And no, I do not believe that they cannot get
to them. They did not, They did not give them
a proper amount of food from the jump. They don't care.

(12:03):
All they want is what they want. It will not
be the have that have nots when it's over, It'll
be we have everything and y'all haven't got shipped. That's
what it's going to be. And that is what we're
looking like. And I'm telling you the only way we
can stop that from happening, Ladies and gentlemen, and stop
all this infighting, stop all of this who shah John,
and get your shit together. We got less than six
months to make sure that your ID MATCHR verth certificate match,

(12:25):
your gender market MATCHR, whatever you can change, make sure
it's all lined up because they are playing for keeps.
And I'm telling you right now, if we lose in November,
are we have completely lost everything for good. It's over.
It is over. And he said, both for me, this
one last time, and you'll never have to do it again.
I heard, I heard him. Then I'm seeing what he's saying.

(12:48):
Now I'm seeing exactly what he's saying. With the way
they're moving.

Speaker 6 (12:52):
Do you know who's happy? Do you know who's really
happy about all this?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Putin has been praising Iran, telling them that they're being
courageous and defending their sovereignty. And there was Katie Kurak
had put a piece out and she said that the
Germany's Chancellor Friedrich Mertz was saying that the US is
being humiliated by Iran's leadership and that in Tehran is

(13:18):
outwitting the Washington.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
That's the word, Bobby, that's that's a word right there
that I'm telling you. I want to post a picture
of President Barack Obama so bad in his hand suit
and say, I bet you y'all missed this, huh right now?
I bet this prout right now because we didn't have
That was leadership, that was authority, that was presidential, that
was respect. He was respecting. He might not have got

(13:41):
the respect he wanted to deserve in his own country,
but other world leaders respected this man as their equal.
I can't much say that, especially after watching Prince Charles
come because he tried the strong arms. Prince childs in
a handshake and Prince Charles nashed his hand back, like player,
this is what we're doing. I thought that that was great.
Station the ship from Prince Charles is sad. Plus he

(14:02):
didn't want to cross the land with Charles because Charles
had his bodyguard with her. Camilla is the bodyguard. Cavilla
would have whooped Trump. Cavilla would have whooped Blaanya, and
Cavilla would have whooped the husband baby the key Cavilla.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I listened to the bulk of his speech in Congress,
and I was impressed. He was trying to be witty.
He was really asking for UH, for us to.

Speaker 6 (14:32):
All be aligned.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
He was saying that the US obviously because we came
from them, The US and England where allies. He was
asking for the for them to value the Transatlantic Alliance,
interfaith tolerance, defense of Ukraine. I'm like, you go, Charles
put it in there, and the importance of nature, because

(14:54):
you know, Charles is like Vice President Gore, he is
a real nature person, an environmental person, and we know
that this administration is not stripped everything. So I mean
he pulled out of the Paris the Paris Accord.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
So I enjoyed that. You could see what a difference
in a prepared speaker.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
And then President Trump was sort at ag libbing. I
guess is the best thing you could say, And he said,
Charles agrees with me on the Iran war. And I thought, yeah,
everybody in the room, No he doesn't, No, he doesn't
at all. I wish, I wish somebody would correct him.
But because you know, we've talked about this a million times,

(15:37):
Trump thinks if you keep saying something, it's actually going
to be true. So he probably thinks he's mind fucking
Charles into You know that this war is a great war.
We're striking it.

Speaker 6 (15:48):
But fix it.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
Charles is the king. He understands his position completely. The
other one wants to be a king, and he we
have to stop posted it in this country. Well, it
doesn't matter. He also posts a pigeon him as Jesus.
Let me tell you something aboutby Clifford, the double status,
especially after they came out with with the First Amendment rights,
you know, the freedom of speech. Oh yet thought We're

(16:12):
gonna take a quick commercial break. When I tell you
that Milanya came on to attack Jimmy Kimmel after he
has all comedians make jokes about the president when she
was when his response back was start at your house,
which is the people's house, because we paid rent over there.
That might white house might be Section eight because they
don't pay no rent. We paid the rent over there.

(16:35):
And and it just Bobby, this is out of control.
And so she makes a big stink about Oh, she
wants him removed off TV.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Because of because of the uh, we'll get you in
a minute, because of the press, press correspondence diinner, which
we'll talk about in a moment. But Jimmy Kimmel, let's
remember a you in case you're what flame's talking about,
In case you're unaware of it. Jimmy Kimble had in

(17:04):
his set on Thursday, two days prior to the to
the dinner, there was a picture of the two of them,
and he was joking about her, you know, having a
glow like a like an expected widow. He was talking
about the massive age difference between the president and his wife.
He wasn't talking about somebody, you know, an attempted assassination,

(17:26):
and now they're trying to twist it and what is
your favorite word to use flame distractions. Of course, it's
nothing but a distraction. And that's all they're doing. They're
just jumping on it. But there is free speech. You
can't have free speech for some and not free speech
for all. On the view they were talking, I don't

(17:47):
know if it was today or yesterday, and they were
discussing or reminding us it was joy Behar how Trump
had said death to all Democrats and that was only,
you know, a short time ago.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
And so is that not free speech? It's gonna be
for everybody.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
But Bobby, you're gonna have to stop comparing what other
people do to Trump. Trump is reckless and allowed because
they allowed him. If we get down here and were
repugnant and just ridiculous about how the real truths we
will be canceled. It is. It is the money and
the superpower and the people behind the superpower. Trump is

(18:26):
not smarting us to do half of the ship that
he is doing. I just don't believe that. I believe
that whoever is strategically using him as a puppet, whoever
the puppet master is, they're controlling the stream that he
is doing as he is told. They want him to
be reckless and go by, which is why I we
gotta get to it. The reason that Cole Allen the
the alleged shooter at Trump and I'm saying a ledge

(18:48):
because I didn't see it. We didn't see it. We
weren't there. I don't even know how he got that
far in with no weapons, because you can't get past
the security with a bottle of water at the airport.
So how the hell he get through all that curity?
C I a FBI, Secret Service, and so many others
with a rifle, a handgun and three knives. Understand that
you have to ask them something questions, ask yourselves that question.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Was the son of a bitch? THO did you see
how fast he was?

Speaker 5 (19:13):
He was not that fast. Ain't nobody You can't get
through the fool boy scattering machine that fast, because it's
going to be he.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Ran through that. That's what he ran through. There's a
little disappointed the guy.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Hold on, don't cut me off. That was the third
or fourth security He had to go through three or
four other security checks to get to that point. That
is my problem. How did he get through all those
other security check points to get to that point. This
is the vice president, the president, so many of our
leaders all in one room. There's no pobs. It's some bullshit, Bobby.

(19:50):
It is the overplay for the underplay. And I said
all the time, there is no possible boy. Then they
come to find out that him advanced went to school together.
They had some kind of classes us they did. They
were they were in the same field, so they worked
together alongside each other. The wife was in the video
of his because he allegedly created a break for the wheelchairs.

(20:13):
He was supposed to be a brilliant guy. Oh yeah,
and uh it just you have. And then I'm gonna
tell you what really looked the most sketchy to me
out of the whole situation. They rushed Vance off the
stage before they got the president off, So they got
number two off and they didn't get number one off
for like a minute and a half. To me, Bobby,

(20:34):
all of that was done not for that ballroom. They
got the money for the ballroom. He then got all
of that money. That was so they can pass this
Department of Humans, Department of Homeland Security because they want
Ice to go back to doing what they were doing
because the elections are coming up, so they won't ice
at the polls for intimidation, so people will be afraid
to go to the polls and vote. So no matter what,

(20:55):
they're still going to win. Because if this law, if
it's just like what they passed, what they pushed today
for the voter rate to act, if it doesn't, it
won't pass until after this. But they're gonna use other
tactics to keep people away from the post, and fear
will be the number one factor to keep people away.
By me, that is my that is my own that
is my own conspiracy. But I believe that.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I believe fear. I think inconvenience fear. You have people
that are recent immigrants, you know legally they're going to anybody,
They're gonna be nervous. Instead of saying of course I
can go and being comfortable, they're gonna stay home because
they're nervous.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
I absolutely agree.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
My prayer is that you know how we have nine
million that didn't bother to come, that that number doesn't
number doesn't double.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
And even if it does, Bobby, let me tell you something.
Elon must have been low key quiet. We heard nothing
from him, nothing about him, but I guaranteed by August
his presence will be very, very prevalent because whatever they
whatever they pulled for this route first go round or
we get, we get, we're gonna have to come up
with our own machines that counteract to be as Now,

(22:01):
who's going to do that from the Democratic Party because
the Republicans that are rolling together they rather that for
real us. I'm this. I'm even sat on Hakeem Jeffries
right now because I'm not thinking that he's stands in
ten toes down on BEASA. It just don't look like
nobody is for the Democratic Party with any kind of oomph, Bobby.
Everybody seems to be so passive.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Well I think they I I'm going to change the
world just a little bit, because I think a lot
of them are coming out with the oomph. That's the bluster, right,
there's no follow through flame. So I don't you can
keep your oomph. I want somebody that's actually going to
do something. I have never in my life, and I
see I sound like an old woman. I have never
in my life been so disgusted by who we have

(22:46):
in power right now, Democrats, the few independents that are
sprinkled in. And you know in the in the House,
in the Senate and the Republicans, nobody is doing a
gd thing. Everybody is caught up into this distraction atmosphere, blusteries.
Everybody's blaming everybody else. It's like being in kindergarten when
one kid and so it doesn't get in trouble, blames

(23:08):
the other kid. But nobody's doing anything. Have you seen
any buil we had? We had in the first year,
the lowest amount of bills that were completed. I don't
know what we've passed. Since nobody's working, They're all collecting
and complaining and nobody's doing a goddamn thing. Who do

(23:29):
we have for November? Do you know anybody that's terrific?
I haven't heard anything. We should know each one of
those names flamed like our own right now by now,
and what their platform is and how they're going to
make things better, I don't know. I haven't seen that
many names, at least on the national news that are
coming out that that I feel confident about.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
Well, even with that, Bobby, when we do have leaders,
I'm telling you we pick them up part more than
anybody else.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Vice President Harris, Vice President Harris to me, I thought
she had a good shot. I thought she had a
good shot. But before the Republicans could get to her,
the damn Democrats had already ravaged her with all these
platforms that she went on, some black, some that we
know very closely. They just never seem like they backed her.
They just never seemed like they had her held her up.

(24:15):
And I bought Charlemagne, who's on the fire right now
from the White House, saying that he incites political violence,
which is completely untrue. He to me, did not, He
didn't even you know, he said he supported her, and
I believe that he did. But girl, I don't know.

(24:35):
It just looked a little sketchy. But I don't like
that Charlemagne is on the fire because I don't want
a target on Charlemagne. Some of these people just don't understand.
They just they don't They don't think logically. A lot
of these people are just more loyalists that they know anything,
and they just they just go with the flow. But
Charlomagne had a great rebuttal. It was very professional, It
was very very calming, you know, to sometimes you have

(24:58):
to try to de escalate a situation and Bobby speaking
of de escalating situation. I don't mean to go back
and forth, y'all, but if I'm a man, I'm still
trying to understand that. And I'm not wishing death on
Cole Allan. But he got this close to shooting the
leader of the free world, and he's the lad and
he's the black man. When y'all know, they stop us

(25:19):
at the stop side and kill us. I'm telling y'all,
y'all better smell what y'all smell and that because that
ain't suit that shit. I see what I say it.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
I think part of that is is because he didn't
get it even on the same floor, do you know
what I mean? Like if he was on the same floor,
and I still think he ran the guy he ran past.
I was a little like, how did he miss him?
Like even if he body checked him as he went by, Like,
how did he I don't know. I would have thought
if somebody ran like that, I guess you can't just

(25:49):
shoot them. But they had to see what the weapons
were on him. Why didn't they shoot him like right then?
Is I don't know.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
I don't Bobby, you keep talking about the fourth or
the fifth security check. You cannot get that close without
going through three. You can't even get through the White
House gates. There are tons of security. Understand, this was
a play a movie that we have seen play out
before and it was bullshit. And look and the first

(26:15):
time it worked this way, or was it this one
or was it this one? The second time it worked
the other way. I'm telling y'all right now, all this
is specificity because they are by they're using Malcolm X's
philosophy by any means necessary to snatch this selection come November.
And I'm telling you right now, y'all better not fall
for it. Y'all better not fall for it. In Illinois

(26:38):
on Friday, if you're eighteen and up, eighteen to sixty
four and you're agile, if you don't, if you haven't
signed up to do eighty hours of community service this Friday,
your spooce savage are cut off and you have to
you cannot apply again for six months. Did you hear that? Now?
Mind you, it got old sick people. It might not

(27:00):
be labeled disabled, but what they're gonna go do eighty
hours of community service? Said Bobby.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
I don't know it is serious. I don't know I
don't know if that would be.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
It is beyond repair at this point. So that's why
we have to really show up like.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Eighty a month, eighty hours a month to twenty hours
a week.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
We have to show up like our country and our
democracy is completely at risk, which it really is, and
we have to show up like monsters. Y'all. Please get
everything aligned. It's going to take time. Nobody likes the DMV.
Let me put both my hands up. I don't like
the DMV either, but everything has to be aligned. I'm
telling you they're gonna play hard ball with you, and

(27:43):
we need every vote to count. That's going to be
on saving us, because we got to get the Congress back.
If we can get the House back, at least we
can stop something. We may not get to send it
right now, but if we can at least get the House.
And thank you Virginia for flipping the seats, but that
ages need something else. Every time we make a move,
probably make another move. That's what I'm saying about the Constitution.
They keep moving to news and they're making it do

(28:05):
what they wanted to do. This is unheard of in
this country. It is you know that.

Speaker 6 (28:10):
Well's the redistricting.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
So when California did it and they were allowed to
do it because they didn't.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Stopped it, well California only was only doing a clop
back to what they were doing in Texas, right.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
So that but that's what I'm saying. But when they
did it, now all of a sudden, everybody's going to
do it. And so I think, you know, I don't know.
I think we're going to be in We're going to
be if the time comes, and it's coming, I mean,
people are, people are starting to do it. Louisiana's on board,
a whole host of states are on board. I think
we're going to be a little bit We're going to

(28:41):
be a little bit in trouble. Did you see any
of Nora O'Donnell's sixty minute interview with Trump.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
I just saw the clip that was out through where
he was very insulting to that woman, and I love
that she kept her composure. Yeah, she kept and then
just made him look that much more or less of
a person, a president of a person.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I absolutely agree, because that's not statesman behavior. All she
did everybody, if you haven't seen it, is she right back.
So they were talking about what happened obviously at the
on Saturday at the press the attempted sassination, I guess
should say, uh, and and and he had a manifesto,

(29:28):
And in the manifesto he said he he was going
after Trump in the administration. I don't know if he
mentioned Trump specifically or he said the administration. He does
he didn't want to back somebody that was a pedophile
and a rapist, and and President Trump snapped at her
and said, oh, you're disgusting for reading it. I am

(29:50):
not any of those things. And I thought, and maybe
I'm wrong. I thought Egene Carroll not not because the
statute of limitations had run out, but I thought Civilly
he was convicted of. I think they called the sexual
abuse that I don't think they did color rape. I
think that's why he got mad at Stephanopolis, right. But
I'm thinking you should watch your wording, because I think

(30:14):
Nora was correct. And she said, all I'm doing is
reading his words. And I wanted to see what your reaction.
Clearly she got a reaction, and I thought, I agree
with flame. She was calm, she didn't react to it.
She said, all I'm doing is repeating his words. But
he wasn't having it. I don't know what he thinks
that people are. I don't know why the press hates me.

(30:35):
I think the press would come back with that information
for anybody. Of course, you got to read the manifesto.
She didn't read the whole thing. She read one or
two really salicious lines to ask him. I don't think
they wanted to give life to reading the entire manifesto.
And I agree with Flame. This was a brilliant man.
He was a mechanical engineer, he had just finished his masters,

(30:55):
he was a teacher, and I don't know if he
I don't know what a what happened, but he obviously
had to have some sort of split with reality, even
if it was some sort of conspiracy. As you were saying,
who would sign up to that, Flame? Nobody. You couldn't
promise anything. He's a young man with his whole life

(31:18):
ahead of him.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
So well, let me tell you this, Bobby. I know you,
and I'm hearing all of that. I came back into
none of this, Bobby. This is the problem. Is the
problem is people are hurting. The gas prices continue going up,
food is excessive, and I don't have any government services.
I don't get a snap or or anything, you know.
So everything is money, cash and the work and when

(31:41):
the work is slow and dry thing and these keys
like they're in the military already over here a good guy,
so it is it is hard and you go and
he doesn't know what it's like to go to the pump,
or go to the grocery store, or go to pay
a life or a guest. So he doesn't know. He's
so out of touch. And so many of them are
that make the decisions for us. But we've voted to

(32:02):
put them in there. So now let's vote to get
them out of there. Please make sure that everything is
the line up. I cannot say that enough. I cannot
stress that enough. I know we got other topics to
talk about tonight, but that is what is worrying me,
because after I watched, after I watched them do six
to three to push back the Voting Right Acts, Voting

(32:23):
Voting Rights Act, Do you understand what our people before me,
our ancestors went through, dogs being bidden by dogs, water hoses, ostracazz,
put out of their homes, burn everything just for us
to have the right to vote, and then y'all piss
it away. Man, I am disappointed in everything and everybody

(32:44):
right now, because this is beyond to me, it's just
beyond repair.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
I thought I was very disappointed with that.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
I really thought that Amy Coney back Barrett would have
because this was right along party line, so if you
were a Democrat, that was the three Liberals and then
everybody else was voted for the act. I thought that
Amy Coney vat Barrett would have voted as a no.
But because she's been going against a lot of what
he's saying, uh, and she really is a constitutional scholar.

(33:14):
So I was a little disappointed with that. But no,
it's this is a perfect topic because it's what he goes.
Affordability is what he got, what he got elected on,
and we don't have it. You know, we had a
huge gas jump. I don't hear anybody, and maybe I'm wrong,

(33:36):
tell me, tell me if I am. Do you hear
anybody talking about health care, health care costs, insurance companies.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
Do you hear anybody talking about the f Stein fast,
which is all this is started just because y'all don't
want us to see that, because that's what it is
for real, for all of this.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Because I did see BONDI is going to have to
It has to she's been I believe she's been subpoena.
She's going to have to speak. So that's going to
be interesting. Remember they kept saying, oh, because she's no
longer in that position, that.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
She's she's not gonna play the fact or she's just
going to lie. So and they let them get away
with it. They got it. The deck is so stacked
against us, Bobby. The only hand we have to play, y'all.
The only car that we have to play is voting
in November. That looks like the only and they're trying
to do all they can and stuff that and that.
That's why you know how important your vote is, because

(34:27):
they're doing everything they can to make sure that you
cannot vote. This is how you know how important your
vote is. Don't get soundtracked and dismayed. They're gonna do everything.
Oh y'all, it ain't even got it, ain't even got
hot yet. This is just a prequel the culture. We
get to November fourth, and they think they're going to lose,
They're gonna turn off the heat. We gotta beat them
at their own game. But it's up to us, You, me, Bobby,

(34:49):
all of us, as Americans to make sure everything is
lined up, to make sure that we can take this back,
because if not the country will be in civil unrest
because too many people are hurty. I agree, And it
ain't just pople that look like me. It ain't just
people that look like Bobby. It's people that look like you.
It's some of your family members. It's some of your
family members that actually voted for him that's gonna get
They's gonna feel the crunch, just like we're gonna feel

(35:10):
the crunch. But they're too stupid to know. But then
don't find out the hard way.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
And we're only we're only a few days over six months,
you know, you know, we're almost at at We're almost
in May. So and please do your due diligence. Look
at your candidates. Pick somebody that aligns most like what
you And also the reality is.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
Pick somebody that you think can win as well.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
You know, like sometimes you love you might love Bernie Sanders,
but you know, poor Bernie is, even though he's a
wonderful man, he's he's not gonna win. So you don't
want to throw your vote away, but pick the person
that aligns with you, that is in a top position
to try to to try to force, you know, force
some change, but.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
Do some research. But do some research. That's what I'm saying.
Chiefs clothings are running around. If you in California, that uh,
that that Mayer or whatever, that Steve Baby, be careful.
That is that he's hiding behind the Democratic ticket. But
those are Republican values. He he he, He funded privatized prisons.

(36:16):
He did a whole lot of stuff. He was now
he wants to apologize for it. Some shit you can't
take back. Tom Sire is his name in California. Be
careful if you're in well, y'all already messed up in
Texas and got that other guy against Jasmin Crockett. But
remember Virginia, y'all put Fetterman in there. We're not gonna
blame that he switched up because of a stroke. That
is who he was the Prisonervania. I'm sorry that is

(36:39):
not who he was, because that's who he was the
whole time. The stroke just gave him an excuse to
let it go. Make sure you do research on your
candidates because what uh, what is the old statement, don't
judge your book bass cover?

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, no, I agree with that you've got to and
you've got to really funky. You've got funky elections in California.
There they were trying to describe them. You don't necessarily
have to have a Republican and a Democrat going against
each other. It could be it's the two top positions.
I guess, which is that's kind of some scary well.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
I would like to come. I would like to see
Vice President Harris come and become the governor of California.
I think if she proved herself as a governor of California,
she could be a shoey in to become the President
of United I think true. I think that it's always
a proving ground. They continue to want you to prove yourself.
They continue to want you to prove yourself. Even though
she has all the credentures that I'm we're sure she
could do the job, they still want her to prove

(37:34):
herself before they put her in that seat. I wish
she would come over to become the government of California
and do a good job here, you know, as good
as possible. Because nobody is perfect. Nobody is perfect. They
expect you don't know it, but you know, keep the
economy moving in California because California is a superpower by itself,
and I think she would be a shoey in for

(37:54):
the presidency. But I don't know bout it. Under this administration,
are we going to have another presidency? You know they
call them about this, this, this whole ballroom and this
bunker and all of that. Listen, if we've been to
a nuclear war and most of my people, that my friends,
you know, all the other of us who don't have bunkers,
I don't want to be left behind. Take me too, shit,
I don't want to be left behind.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
As long as it's instantaneous and you don't go around
with third degree burns for the rest of your time. Y. No,
but isn't it Isn't it funny that this the ballroom
was going to be one privately paid for.

Speaker 6 (38:28):
We didn't have to worry about it.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
And now Lindsey Graham is howking that they're going to
put legislation forward for four hundred million. Again no biscuits,
but like you know what I mean, is even tho
with that?

Speaker 5 (38:41):
You know, Lindy wants to find China and the delicate
doy lease and things go figure.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
I worry about our kids that I'm being fed rather
than a gd ballroom. Do I think that we we
talked about this before. Do I agree that we probably
needed a bigger ballroom? Yes, but unfortunately right now isn't
the time, and not the monstrosity that's being built and
not tearing off our east wing.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
But probably, but this isn't the right time.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
I completely disagree with you. We don't need about We
didn't need a ball room. We needed some leadership. We
needed a president that wanted to do the job to
save the country, not to land his pockets. Like it's
unbelievable how much money these people have.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Just oh huge? Did you see that? Is he's gonna
put his puss on the on the passport in July?

Speaker 5 (39:32):
I saw that.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Well, I need to get my thing done prior to that,
because I don't want I think it's actually elected. I
think you have to pay more. I'll be interested to
see whose pocket the extra money goes into.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
Mhmm, the thing one everything else has went into. Whether
we have tear tearff checks, all that deposit, they're supposed
to come back where that money. Ain't nobody get that money,
just like y'all ain't gonna get though stimular checks. All
you dummies that voted thinking he was gonna get a
damn stimulus check, your stem of this check is gonna
come on Friday, because he's stopping your EBT. If you
don't work eighty hours a month, that's your similar chick,
you will not be able to eat.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
Yeah, Aaron just reminding us. The passports are a limited edition.
I know, but who needs.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
It at all? Aaron? I don't want it.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
I don't want to see him Listen. I'm trying. I'm
trying to get me a mag a hat for a
collector design because one day those hads gonna be worth
billions of dollars.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Or not.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
A penny.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Could be one way or the other.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
I think they're worth us right now, but you know
that's so, and they worked us and the people that
wear them are even more. But anyway, thank you guys
for joining us here at LA. We appreciate you guys
joining us. Listen six years with Black Effect. They just
celebrate their six year anniversary this weekend. Our producer Aaron said,
it was a grand affair. Everybody was there. Charlotte Maine,

(40:48):
dj Emvy was there. I saw Laura the roaster there.
It was just a big deal but gorgeous. She did no,
no what Aaron, Aaron telling me, no, if no not real,
comings leave me alone.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
I'm only getting half of it.

Speaker 6 (41:07):
Year, six year, six years for there, Thank you, Aaron.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
See we've been getting checked over here. Y'all know God
is up in here. So the fourth the fourth anniversary
of the fourth festival at the Poorman Yards, but the
sixth year of Black Effect, and we like to make
it to the whole six year, y'all. No, well it's
almost six Aaron, almost right, we are what twenty episodes
from six?

Speaker 6 (41:34):
He's like, he's like havin Jimminy croocket on your shoulder.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
Can you guys, can you guys please download our podcast
for free on Black Effect iHeart Spotify, Apple, Amazon or
wherever you listen to your podcast, because I'm telling you
guys right now, we wait for information from you. Guys.
We always talk about it, we cover it. We don't
have the astronomical numbers, but we got the truth over here.
I promise you we got the truth over here. Six season?

(41:58):
What what is said? Six? You know what? I couldn't
see that are it went too fast and we're trying
to get there and we need your help. So download
our podcast and follow me on all social media platforms
at Monroe Flame on Instagram and Flame Monroe Everywhere else
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still do coffee time when I feel it, but because
the truth is over there, just like the truth is

(42:19):
over here. And six season? What what did he say
for laugh and Learn? For Laugh and Learn? Yeah? Six
season covering up? Okay, yeah, we listen, we need it listen,
and we need a raise because I boss, I've boss
got the wit chick.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
We need, we need a raise in our number. So
tell a friend, tell anybody I challenged person at the
deli holding the number beside me.

Speaker 6 (42:44):
I tell anybody that I that I can shake.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
And where can we follow you at Bobby Clifford.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
You can follow me at Clifford Bobby on Instagram, Laugh
and Learn Podcast on Instagram. I did have somebody reach out.
We've got We've received some really lovely comments lately. You
guys thank you so much that they were having trouble
posting to Laugh and Learn. So I'm gonna look at that.
I don't know, I don't know what's going on. And
I'm not a super tech person, but I'm gonna I'm

(43:10):
gonna see we do get some comments, so I don't
know why we wouldn't get others. And then Bobby Clifford
and everything else.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
Because I don't know why she went into all that
Bobby Clifford on Instagram and Clifford Bobby, I know, cliffor
Bobby on Instagram and Bobby Clifford everywhere because I don't
know what about. I told y'all had to corral for y'all.
Thank you for joining us. Thank you, Aaron. Listen, y'all, listen, listen.
Six months, six months. I know it sounds like it's
a long way. Wait, it's going to go. It's gonna

(43:38):
go so far, and it's gonna be so scary. Please, y'all,
we get to do this together. We got to we
are in. Last week's episode was called fight, Fight Fight.
This episode is called win, Win, Win, because God damn it,
we got a win. We cannot afford to lose this. Oh,
it would be over, it would be Oh, y'all think
you know, you don't even want to know. If you

(43:58):
think you thought slavery was bad, it's fifty times worse
than the shit that they tell you. You have to
speak to elders to find that out. You go talk
to somebody that's ninety one hundred years old that wasn't there,
but their parents were there, or their grandparents. They will
tell you the most horrendous shit you ever heard in
your life. I'm not going through that. I'm not living
through it. So in order for us not to live
through that, we got to make sure that id's my

(44:19):
diverse certificates, match our married name, match your gender market,
not your current address, because goddamn it, what we have
to do is win, win, win, and that's what we're
going to do. Here a laugh a learned. The model
has not changed and will not change because here a
leafte learn we are not trying to get you to
change your mind. We are only trying to get you
to use your mind. Because why, Bobby, Because your.

Speaker 6 (44:39):
Mind, and especially your vote, or a terrible thing to waste.

Speaker 5 (44:43):
Don't waste your man, don't waste your vote, and don't
waste my goddamn time. I got shit to do. Peace.
I see y'all some Wilder now season twenty nine or
thirty forty fifty. I don't know. I'll be there at peace.
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(45:04):
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