April 11, 2024 • 56 mins
Flame Monroe and resident flamette Bobby Clifford discuss the solar eclipse, the end of Ramadan, the Crumbleys' case in Michigan, the Boeing whistleblower and air safety concerns, the plummeting stocks of Trump's streaming service, the Hush Money trial, Marjorie Taylor Greene's call to remove Mike Johnson as Speaker of the House, reproductive rights, the upcoming election, student debt relief, women's sports. They emphasize the importance of women's voices in the election and the need for women to rally together and more. Tune in and comment in the socials below.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
We were Flame.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
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name Flame, my bro also known as my ro Flame.
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She raid shot towns. I'm speaking to the grown a second.
We're gonna last cut up, the kick in and at
the againd we leave it with just a lifted spirits
make you want to revisit so your first second listen,
young folks say you slip? Oh folks that we dig it? Hey, no,
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you do?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Can' no? This do what I do?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Know this?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Hey hey, hey, this is comedians say my Roe and
welcome to this week's episode of Last and Learn with
Flame and Bobby. Bobby Clifford. Bobby Clifford, Hi you Hi?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
How are you happy Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh Bobby, it's been a week. Happy Wednesdays week on
the countdown. This is episode number forty nine.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yes it is three more to go.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
We almost to the finished line, Bobby, till we could
start all over again. Hello, Flamett. Hello everyone out there
in radio and listening podcast land. Thank you to I
wanted to producer mister Aaron Howard. It has been a week,
ladies and gentlemen. It's a lot going on. I said,
a lot going on, and I'm talking about I don't
even want to get into none of my personals. I
(02:30):
want to jump right into it because y'all been going
crazy about this eclipse. Oh it's an eclipse. Oh I'm talking.
I watched people just y'all made it like big parties,
and I know it was a you know, it was
maybe a once in a lifetime event, But girl, I
see an eclipse every time I take off my clothes
and walk in the bedroom, walk past the mirror, I
see my eclips. And I'm not talking about the front.
(02:50):
I'm talking about the back, Liz.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I see all the craters and everything on mine.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So we really couldn't experience it here, Bobby, in southern
Californian we got a little grayness. But you guys over there,
y'all get it. Y'all get it really good.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
We weren't in the past. But but if you bought
the special glasses, which I did, they were twenty five
dollars or five on Amazon. When you looked up, I
will say, yeah, I even got my miserable sister Teresa
out and she was sort of mesmerized. You put them on.
It didn't get really dark. It looked a little dusky,
but didn't get dark. You looked up and you could
(03:26):
see the bright sun and you could see something that
was covering it. In the beginning, it just looked like
a little bite was taken out, and by the end,
because we only had ninety two percent here of completion,
it looked like a little crescent moon. It was cool.
It was a cool thing. I'm glad I did it.
I forced myself to go out and I can say
I was there.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I just didn't want them to start blaming everything. Oh
my god, people are acting crazy because of the retro
grade and the come like, if people acting crazy, they
damn show acting crazy. Anyway. It had nothing to do
with the sun passing the moon or the moon passing
the sun. It's true, but it's any who. Where we at, Bobby,
where we're going, what we're doing first? Where we talking about?
I want to start with pleasant and we'll get to death.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
No, I don't even we don't even this, so so
we can move right soultop, it'll be pleasant and then
I won't. So today is e which is the end
of the Islamic holiday, the end of Ramadan. So that's wonderful.
It's a time of increased worship and charity and good
deeds and sort of like our time up to Christian's
(04:30):
time up to Easter, and today would be like a
big feast, which is which is terrific. And they really fast,
like the Catholics we have the McDonald's are fasting. We
can have, you know, one meal and two light snacks,
kind of like slim fast with.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Ramadan. And the Muslims don't have or drink anything.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
They they are really they're extreme. Yeah, they're extreme because
doing it well while there's daylight, they can have no
think to eat. I'm like, I can't even have water.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
No, you've got to be They're so disciplined. I am
so not. Oh my god, yeah, happy happy. The thing
that wasn't happy is I was seeing on the news
that in Philadelphia there are three shots five in custody.
It was right next to an e celebration, So we
(05:23):
don't know who are the people that actually were shot,
but supposedly everybody's in custody, which is which is pretty terrific.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Good something I know that is terrible. Religion. Religion, religion
and politics. Good God will shake some things up no
matter what the identity, nationality, wherever you live. Those are
two subjects that are sometimes very taboo to have a
mixed company. But prayers to the people that got shot.
But yeah, I was looking at the whole because I
(05:53):
was speaking with Dlay earlier and the whole Rabadan thing.
They I'm like, you, Bobby, they are serious about it.
Oh my god. Yeah, and then they tell me like
seventy five times a day on the little med I'm like, oh,
very sad. I'm like, you get of me. I'll be like, okay,
I'm tired of talking. You leave me alone.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
She's bitching about the same thing. That's what i'd got.
But but no, I hope that nobody involved because because
they don't have an actual link, it just happened to
be right beside it. So let's hope that there weren't
any innocence who were shot. Thirty shots though I mean
it was it was quite a lot. And return fire
from the from the police. So we'll get more on
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that as it comes along.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I would really like to be at one of these
Ramadan feast celebrations because I heard they have the real spree.
They have everything.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Oh my god, they should. I can't even imagine. I yeah,
not having anything. I'd almost be exhausted. They must like
chew twice and go, you know. But from all that, however,
many days they have of Ramadan, God bless them.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
So oh I think is a I think it's a week.
I'm not sure. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You know, now have to I have to go and
look it up. I feel like they see research, are
the research. It's something. As I'm looking that up though,
something that was actually good, it's not good because of
what happened. But the East Palestine, Ohio, you know the
train derailment. They actually have a six hundred million dollars
(07:23):
settlement for that. As long as the court approves that,
and that will resolve all of the different lawsuits that
have come There are thousands of them within a twenty
mile radius. But their poor health.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, well and with that body so some people closer
I will get if they win this lawsuit. If they
passed this lawsuit, will give money for a certain thing,
for health care, for suffering, and for their damages to
their home in the air. But some people that were
further out will only get money for one like maybe
(08:01):
the air quality or something. I saw that. Yeah, because
if you were closer to it, you get more risk. Yeah, yeah,
it is.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's and you know, but some people aren't going to
be happy with that because everybody's gonna want the same.
And I will tell you the people that are very close,
so forget even what their physical damages are, because their
medical bills could be huge. Their property values have to
be worth nothing because I don't know how long these
chemicals will take before they they dissolve, So you know,
(08:30):
that's kind of scary. So Ramadan thirty days flame, thirty
days they.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Suffer thirty girl, that's ring, that's ring.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's a that's a lot of days not to eat.
I thought we should do it for a giant.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I would have to call Allah and Buddha and all
them people that's involved in it to be like, let
me tell you something, if I will not eat for
thirty days, you will have to pay my rent next
month or my mortgage. I'm just not it's a trade off.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Honest to God, icon even icon even and somebody else
that got their come up and were the crumblies they had,
That is the Ethan Crumbley who was the Oxford High
School student who had shot and killed. They are actually
the parents were held responsible as we knew. They actually
got their time. They're both to serve ten to fifteen
(09:22):
years and we had spoken about it before. I loved
how the judge just debased them.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I think what got her was that the mother. You
know how they can they can say a speech so
the victims can speak to the to the parents, and
then the parents can come back. The mother didn't seem
she didn't get it. The little snippet that they played
on the news. Her big news to everybody was this
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could happen to you. No, her message should have been,
don't let it happen to you. Pay attention to your kids.
She still wasn't take any accountability up to the end.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Bobby, and as a parent, which we both are, I
heard that and I was heartbroken for the whole situation.
But I have done my whole due diligence with my
children and I'm not giving this woman or this man
to pass whatsoever. But I have done everything I could,
just teach my kids and show them to go the
(10:23):
right way. You really have no control of what your
child gonna do. But the problem with that whole situation
is they knew that this kid was see the target
the school. They had went to the school that morning
and had a meeting with what she did with them,
and the kid was and then y'all give him a gun,
they taught was a joke. Yep, y'all get y'all got
(10:46):
exactly what y'all deserved. And then they put both the
father and the son. Both are in prison and in
separate prisons. So no, no, no, the father and son.
The son's side was, oh, oh we know that.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Oh oh, I see what you say.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, yeah, they put them. They didn't put them in
prison together. They separated the different facilities, which I think
is great, which I think is fantastic because he needs
his parents now, but when he really needed them, they
weren't there. So now you don't have the luxury of
having them, you.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Know what, flame he doesn't. I disagree with that to
the point of he doesn't need those parents right now.
He needed a good set of parents right now. He
wouldn't get anything off of them, and all they would
do is sit and look at themselves and how they
were victimized themselves. He needs somebody that's actually going to
listen to him if his is any hope of any
type of rehabilitation. And I don't think. I don't think
(11:44):
he can even get out, but if he did, he
needs to. He needs some sort of therapy, not those
two dragging them down. Oh god, Oh yeah. So anyway, Crumblings,
they got there.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Well, since we're talking about bad parenting, let's keep it
moving on bad parenting. Because the Ebony Parker's her name,
and I only remember her name because her last name
is the same last name as mine. In Florida, the
one year old or the first grader who shot the teacher.
The teacher didn't die. They arrested her. They put her
in jail because she just did not care either. This
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was a black woman. The Crumbleis were white people. And
this is what I'm saying, and I'm not saying this
to point out they're racist, but you just people are people.
It has nothing to do with the color. Bad people
are bad people, and good people are good people, and
non caring people are non caring people. But they arrested her, asked,
and slammed her in jail because this one year old
boy took us gun to school and they knew that
(12:42):
he would have violent tendencies. They had warned her and
warned her, and she just did not care.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And I'd love to know what he saw in the
home that made the violent tendencies and what did the
other one see in the home. I mean, there are
some children that are born, they're a chemical and bound.
There are all sorts of things that are wrong to
begin with, but at such a young age, I'd love
to see and I'm with you, flame Aussols come in
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all colors, shapes, and sizes.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I don't want to know what went on in their Homeboby,
because then we would probably really be mortified on what
we did not know on the other side. But I'm
hoping that this sets I hope I'm kind of on
the fence about I hope it sets the presidents for
parents on both sides, because now I'm looking at it
like some parents really do do all they can to
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make sure that their children are in a good place,
and the kids still, like you said, they still turn
out to be bad. Sees, But so do we hold
those parents accountable? Because now how do you differentiate I
was a great parent and my kids turned out messed up,
or I was a bad parent and my kids turned
out messed up.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
You see the effort, right, So one of the easy
things that they saw was exactly what you just discussed.
The mother was an earlier. She sends a text, don't
get caught. That's not a good parent. And the judge
even said she wasn't judging it. I would have been judging.
But if you have a parent, like I'm super white,
my kid complained about feeling sad one day and had
(14:10):
his ass and a therapist. If you have a parent
that's making an effort and doing everything within their within
their control, then no, they should not be held accountable
because we can't. We can only do what we can do.
And I probably went the other way. I think that
I over indulged my son trying to help, and I
(14:31):
didn't let him solve some of his little problems himself.
And that's how we learn. Cuping is to to be
knocked down and how you're actually going to pick yourself up.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Well, And I'm only pointed that out to say that
because we get so we faced such racism in this
country right now. But I just wanted you to see
that we are the same people. Some of us just
do different things. And that's not to say that we're
all bad. There are good people with good parents, great parents,
but that was that was just a mess up situation
all the way around. And and since we harped on that, Bobby,
we're going to stay right in the same subject. Right now.
(15:04):
Here in California, a lady a mental illness, I believe
you know, stabbed her boyfriend and then through to her
nine year old and her I think eight month old
out the car on the four or five freeway, which
is one of the most dangerous freeways here in California,
in southern California, and the eight month old died apparently
on impact. The boyfriend died. She crashed the car into
(15:27):
a brick wall and killed herself. But the nine year
old is still alive. And I thank god that the
nine year old is still alive, but still alive. To
what what kind of damage has been permanently done to
this kid? Right?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
It almost would have been better, And trust me, I
really don't mean this. It almost would have been better
if it had flip flopped, because the nine year old's
going to remember everything. They have a memory. The six
month old would not have had a memory, you know,
like they wouldn't you know somehow they could have been spared.
I don't, but you know, either way, I'm sure that
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nothing's going to make it, make it better.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Prayers to all involve the victims, and also listen, I
know I'm growing up, I'm getting older, the victims and
also the victimizers, because I hate to see people in
chronic pain and hurt and I just don't know what
kind of place you could possibly be in, and I
don't ever want to know either. I'm saying this hypothetically
that I would do some harm or cause some bodily
(16:26):
injury or harm to my own children, because here's the
thing we are as parents, we are supposed to cover
and protect our children. I don't know where she was
at her mind mentally, or what life had did to her.
And that's why I said earlier when we talked, you
never know, you know, we quick to say, oh, she
was crazy, she was this, so this person was that,
But you never know what kind of stripes life gives
(16:46):
you that you came in because life is going to
give you some stripes.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Absolutely, and you were right. Eight months and the eight
months old she could have had postpartum depression. Plane yeah,
you know, and had some sort of psychotic break, which
is which is absolutely awful. I hope that the baby
died an impact and somebody didn't run over it.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well that's what they said, that the baby dad will impeg.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Oh thank god.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So that was tragic. But and speaking as a parent
and as a dad, even though I'm transgendered, I was
with my baby mom and she went through postpart of it,
and I never believed that that was real. You know,
you would hear that she just don't want to be
bothered with no kids. They don't want to have to
be no parent, they won't have no baby. But I
witnessed it with my own eyes, and we didn't know
what it was. But when we found out what it was,
(17:29):
I seen it. So I understand that for women I seen.
I've actually physically watched her emotions go twelve thousand emotions
in five minutes, from happy to laughing to crying, to
say to depressed to just dark until oh it was bonkers, Bobby.
And so yeah, that is postpartum is definitely a real thing. Okay,
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where we going, y'all? Where we going, Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
So the other thing, of course, now that I have
to fly, I am going to be all nervous is
air safety. Boeing is is being investigated.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Thank god.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
They had a whistleblower. I think it was an engineer
who said that they were cheaping out on some of
their planes as they were putting them together. So keep
your ears open for plan fear any cracks or bangs,
report it. Hopefully that they'll be able to somehow though
on this they'll they'll discover something or be able to
(18:26):
repair whatever the existing fleet is and and maybe discover,
you know, something else that's gone wrong in other planes
before it they actually go back up into the air.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, and we've been flying. I've been flying more a lot.
Very Yeah. That's very scary, Bobby, because you just don't know,
good god, I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
You don't They they had a Southwest, which is also
a Boeing, that had to return to Denver International after
losing an engine cover. I don't know if that keeps
out the dust. I know when my car sounded like
a truck, when the when the cover on the underneath
came off, so I can only imagine what it sounds
like on a plane. But the passengers replaced reported it.
They you know, everybody was telling me there's airline stewards.
(19:09):
I know that's not the right thing to call them anymore,
that's not BC. But they attended. There you go, there
you go. So thank god. I am just looking. Oh god.
You know who had a really bad day today? Was
was Mike Johnson.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Late this afternoon, they had they had his own people
had voted down that that I think it's FISA fi
s A that Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act bill. That's the
bill that allows the US government to collect without warrants
or anything, communications of non Americans that are located outside
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the country.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
And for those of you all who are listening in,
Mike Johnson is the Speaker of the House.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Oh yes, I'm so sorry. And who killed it was Trump.
He feels that that they listen into his his election
is campaign, which is completely untrue because he's a he's
a American citizen that's within the country. They use it
to spy on him. So he put it out there
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on truth Social to kill the bill, and it was
killed and sort of everything was killed. They didn't get
anything accomplished. They were supposed to be talking about a
to Ukraine. And President Zelensky is he's adamant that they're
going to end up losing the war soon if they
don't get some sort of help. I don't know, They're
(20:39):
going to have to do something. This is this is
absolutely crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
And President Zelensky, I hope that they get the help
that they need because he has put up such a
state fight. He has put up the good fight.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
He really has, and he's like he's there, he's he's
walking the walk. He's not walking around in a beautiful suit,
and he is like, you know, right down order and ordering.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Chick fil A, gonna say it, gonna say it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Oh my god, I kin'd even I can't even talk
about the Chick fil A thing.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I'm sop. So the backstory about this before we get
into that story, is Bobby Clifford absolutely loves Chick fil A.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Oh yes I do. I'm addicted. I need a twelve
step Hi, my name is Bobby. And then looking for
a for a support club.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I like Chick fil A, but not every day. Good god. Uh.
We'll get to that story. Later, y'all just hold on
to that. Where we going next? Bobby C.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
So, oh, I don't even know. If we want to,
we might as well go into Trump. His stocks are plumbing.
They've been all over the place. It's lowered his value
by a million dollars, not that he seems to needed
at the current time, although he likes to brag. He
wanted to postpone the hush money trial, which is really
(21:58):
election interferen's trial. We just call it hush money and nope.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So his apparently so his podcast not his podcast, so
his streaming, his streaming service tanked.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
It's not it's not worth what he's got. He thought
he's he dropped by a billion, so he must have
been bragging on it. They say that the the listenership
is not that high. I had the numbers last week,
but I didn't put him up against this this week.
I apologize. I'll put him up for next week. So
it's you know, if you don't have listeners, then you're
(22:33):
not bringing in ads and all that jazz. So not
that great. I mean, I don't even know what truth
social looks like. I wouldn't even know what to get it.
I guess the app store.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
No, well, he'll just put up an ad, a go
fund me, or you know, sell he's been selling sneakers
and bibles. Maybe he'll start selling used cups from Chick
fil A. Since he was just.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Articulating, maybe he want maybe he was applaning for a job.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
And he ordered thirty milkshakes and chicken sandwiches. And it
was in a very African American area that he went
to this Chick fil A in and they had a
woman who came up and said that she didn't care
what the media said, that we were we stand behind Trump.
And it looked staged. It looked very uh and I
(23:25):
would when people were questioning why would he go to
Chick fil a, Listen, that was a step up because
you know, he served the football players McDonald's in the
White House, so that was technically a step up.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I mean, they did say that day that he was
going to be at a fundraising luncheon. Maybe that's where
he brought used Maybe he brought his donors to Chick
fil A for a chicken sandwich and although it would
have been delicious and a milkshake. But it looks like
the hush money trial is going to be starting on time.
The judge released a questionnaire for Jerry selection, which I
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was super smart because then they can sort of start
to vet people, and he asks if they're part of
any Proud Boys organization or antifat anything like that. He
is also asking them if they have ever been to
any of the former president's rallies. So I think he's
trying to, you know, uh, squeeze out the ones that
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we don't want, and then if they lie, you know,
they can come back after them. If they answered, if
they fibbed down there.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
As well, you're ready to come back after them because
they're all lying. And now you see, But we got
off of Mike Johnson too quick. But did you see
that mis Taylor Green was called to a conference with
Mike Johnson because she was the one who was screaming
to have him removed as speaker at the house. He's
not my favorite either, but I would, God forbid, I
would rather swallow broken glass and agree with Marjorie Taylor Green.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
They well, I would to. I mean, first of all,
it would be horrible for the country. We need a speaker.
We just just spoke two seconds ago about Ukraine. We
also have aid that needs to go out to to
the Palestinians, right, we have to get aid to to Gaza.
I think we need to almost hold off a little
bit on Israel to see what Netanyahu's gonna do. If
he's gonna let the aid in easily, and if he's
(25:16):
gonna he's gonna take his part and feed these poor
people and make sure that they have housing. But we
need to be doing something. We compy without a speaker,
I mean, it's it's unfathomable, it's it's reckless.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
In her God, we can't do without a speaker. But
we can damn shoe without We can damn she do
without a Marjorie.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Oh my god. Absolutely, I mean and I'm not so
I'm not thrilled over him either. But the one thing
that I do know is that he's been trying to work.
It's on staff. You know, he would I think he
would like to even bring the Ukraine forward, but you
know he's got those far right people that are that
are screaming about it. But it mean, use your head.
(25:57):
If we don't help the Ukrainians and to put the
war here, or they'll end up attacking you know, our
foreign interests. No, this this is nuts.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, we were doing bumby. We're in the place. But
I'm telling you something right now, when it comes down
to this election and where we are and how we stand,
I'm gonna call on rallying biological women to save us.
The only thing that will save this this election is women.
Women are the ones who stand to risk the most
(26:28):
loss in this next election if the Orange man wins,
because he wants to already say he liked the grab
yard by the wuha, now he wants to own your
wuha with this whole abortion thing. And he has flip
flopped and swung his legs and fence road the whole
time because he was the loud voice and the proud
ones to scream, oh, I put three elected right people
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on the Supreme Court, three conservative judges on the Supreme Court.
We overturn Roe versus Way. But now he's backtracking because
he perceived that women. He's losing the side of women
that were even the younger demographic that was teen Trump
because now you are trying to tell a woman what
she can and cannot do with her body. And I'm
telling you right now, Bobby, I need women to pay
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attention to the flip flopping and the Flint family because
women rallying together and I'm talking about biological women who
can have babies, who have uteruses, can save this country
if they band together. Yep, Biden, it might not be
your favorite, Biden might not be doing everything that you
want him to do, but Biden is not trying to
invade your privacy when it comes down to the decision
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that you want to make about your body on what
you want to do, he is not no.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
And he's certainly for reproductive rights. I mean, you know,
the big hallabulu this week was the Arizona Supreme Court
rules state is going to go away here to one
hundred and sixty year old law that bands abortions except
for if you can, if you can save the mom's life.
Forget about rape, forget about incest. This is something that
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was codified back in nineteen oh one, before Arizona was
even a state. In nineteen twelve.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, it was eighteen sixty four. And Bobby, you made
two very pertinent points. But that's what people keep saying,
unless it's incests or less it's rape. How about I'm
not ready to be a mother. How about I'm not
ready to have a baby because I'm not mentally or
in a financial place to take care of it. But
then when you have the baby and you're not mentally
or physically ready, stuff like what we just talked about
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earlier with the woman getting rid of her children, you know,
or just being a horrible parent, then none of that
is being taken into accountability. It is just either you
have it and you deal with it, or it's our
way that is just not you're not taking Some people
don't want to be parents. Yes they had sex, Yes
they made a mistake. Sometimes the contraceptives don't work, the
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condom breaks, or the such and such doesn't work, the
IUD so, you know, or the shot just didn't take.
Anything could happen. So you're not giving me a choice.
And I don't want to be a parent. I'm not
ready to be a mother. I don't want to have
a kid at this time of my life, or I
don't ever want to have a kid. That don't make me.
I don't want to feel guilty that I'm not having sex,
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that I shouldn't have sex. It's just it's so many
variables to this. But women, women, if you hear me,
the ball is in your court. You got all the
aces I need you to play them. I need you
to play the hell out of them too.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I think this will be the Achilles Heel for the
Republicans because even the Arizona Attorney General she vowed that
she would she would never this is a draconian law
and she will never prosecute anybody for this because they're
telling providers that if they perform the service, they could
be I think it's two to five years that they
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could go in prison for.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, they could lock up the doctors.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Absolutely. They had on Oh my god, And I wrote
her name down somewhere and I can't find it here.
It was a sound from Arizona. And she actually just
had an abortion two weeks ago. She has had many
she's had infertility issues, she's had many miscarriages, and she
found out that her current pregnancy that the heartbeat went
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and and she needed to well we so they call
it abortion, but it's it's a d n C that
that that's also what people are calling it. And so
she was very concerned that her provider, had they had
they done this, would face up to two to five
years in prison. You know, it's ridiculous. And then Trump's
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trying to say that he wants to make it a
state's issue. Well, you're going to have states that are
going to be completely empty. If that's the issue. Going
to the other states, you know, it's absolutely crazy. You know,
the people will be moving.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
So I am telling you now he wants to go
from state to state. But he held his head up
high and raised the flag that he was the one
who's single handedly pushed to have Row versus Way overturned
just two to.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Three weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
So, so like people have to think about it.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Listen, I need y'all to pay attention to what you
are facing because if he changed his man on thatt,
if y'all put him in office, what else will he
change his man on?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, and now it's ridiculous. So first he was bragging
about that. Now that he's saying Arizona has just gone
too far. Please, I can't. I can't even I'm looking.
I think that's I think that's all for him. He's
he's going to be. The Supreme Court's going to hear
his arguments, the community arguments on April twenty fifth, and
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I think that they're saying July hopefully that they'll be
they'll be they'll be through. I hope that Jack Smith
is like on it like a bonnet and we'll be
able to move as of July, because that's what he's
counting on.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Right he is going to lose. I'm saying that today
and I'm manifesting. And they said during the eclipse, if
you manifest something, I'm manifesting that he will not be
the president of the United States. I hope to God.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I hope to Godden. But I'll tell you the guy
who I hope is because he is our choice choice
right now. He just announced Monday about more student debt relief.
So I know that a lot of people aren't seeing
either their group. They're not they're not hearing the words
that President Biden is working working for you, But he is.
He He might not be doing absolutely everything that that
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that you want, but he's doing everything that he can
get passed through the Congress, Senate, and what he can
get done that won't end up going to court by
executive order like he was trying to get student on
the first time, and then of course he was brought
to court over it. So the new the new proposal,
I guess it scales back. It'll give potentially up to
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five thousand dollars and then there are there are you know,
the other side is really unhappy. It's not fair to
taxpayers who didn't need it. But that's how a lot
of stuff goes, you know, like when we have taxes
that are raised for schooling. I don't have any kids
that are in school anymore. Why should I have to pay?
Because that's the way. That's how society works, you know.
And what's good. If people have more money to spend,
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they're going to be stimulating the economy, which which is
a little up right now three point five percent. It
went up because because cost costs for housing, costs for gasoline,
costs for groceries are not they're a little stubborn. They're
not coming down. So I mean, but that's how it
sort of works. The other thing President Biden did, and
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I haven't heard a lot about it. I don't know
if you have flame, is that he was hosting the
Prime Minister from Japan, Fubio Kashida, I believe, and his wife,
as well as for the President of the of the Philippines,
the Prime Minister of the Philippines, trying to show that
we're we're you know, working together and that the economy
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is going going well, blah blah blah. I know that
Japan was looking to take over the American Steel, a big,
huge American steel company, but that wasn't on the agenda.
Usually there are like twelve things on the agenda for
when we have these big state dinners in these powows.
But President Biden has actually packed it with seventy things.
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So hopefully they get a little bit done. Paul Simon's
going to be performing at the at the dinner that
would come kind of be nice.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
President Biden is on his hustle. He trying you know
his hustle right now.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, he's trying to get in whatever he can too elected,
but whatever he can get pasted. On the off chance
that he doesn't get in, what can he what can
he move? Can you believe they're still talking about impeaching
my orcists? I guess that that's they. It's got a
few days. They've got until next week to get their
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their articles in order. It just seems so stupid because
it's not going to go anywhere. So, I mean, what
a waste of tax, pay your money.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It's a lot of distractions.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
But you just said it. It is a lot of
it just directions everything to disrect from what we were
supposed to be paying attention, which is the election. You know,
Alaska and Wyoming are going to have their caucus, the
Democratic caucus this week, so there's no surprise. We know
that it will be Biden. But a lot of the
what do you think about the A lot of the
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television networks are are coming together. They want to see
some sort of some sort of debate between Biden and Trump,
and I think Biden has been putting it off because
Trump is notoriously bad and he lies the entire time.
I think it would be fruitless, to be quite honest.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
With you, well, I think that Biden has the right
idea because this generation is and not just the youth,
but a lot of people are really directed by the
Internet and they are very indecisive. So Trump Trump's voice
is authoritative and is strong even when he lies, and
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he pushes the narrative so you will believe what he's saying.
So I'm kind of weird Byen because if they did
go at it, Biden is not going to be rude
and disrespectful or loud and obnoxious, but he's going to
be factual. But the society that we live in right now,
don't want factual, they want the antics. They want the foolishness,
and that's what they'll believe. So I'm kind of weird
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by it. And I don't think that he if he
didn't do any of the other debates, because we already
know who he is, there's no need for us. That's
right show by Trump. Trump shows us every single day
exactly who he is.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Right, you're exactly And I think so too. I don't.
I wanted to see them the last go around, but
now after seeing he No, it's not gonna go anywhere.
We're not gonna get answers. He's gonna talk like bibbity
bobbity blue, the sky is blue. No it's not, it's
red it. You know, it's just gonna be nonsensical. He's
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just gonna throw out catchphrases.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
It reminds me of his uh oh Alaska Palin remember
when she was she was debating, like she talked about
park bellies, like she made no sense, She never answered
the question. You always saw the moderator kind of looking
at her, and.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Like what I think Biden, whoever's advising him on this
is very savvy with this because it could turn out
bad for Biden because Trump already showed what he debated
Hillary Clinton, that he walked around her, and it was
it was very it was very distracting, and it was
very aggressive. It was and it made the aggressive Americans
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that believe him by in Trump, that's what we should do.
This is how you do it. But it was it
was never the right thing. It was just what he did.
So yeah, I'm I know, absolutely not. If he did
not debate with all the other candidates, then he should
not debate Biden went on one. Because it's not that
I don't think Biden is qualified to handle him, but
he's going to be a nightmare. And that is what
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they want. They want that hostility. His followers want that
combativeness and that argumentative and that disagreeableness. They thrive on it.
They drink that kool aid. Oh my god, that KOULI
could not have no sugar. I don't even like orange
kool aid.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
It is he was like stock I ish you know
what it reminds me of. It will remind me of
a bad wrestling match. You know how one just keeps
circling the other one. You're waiting for them to pounce.
I don't need the theatrics. I've got enough stress in
my life.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
He won't come prepared. You know, you can't prepare him
because he knows better than everybody else.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Well, he always goes off. He always goes off topic.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Always goes figure off topic, he goes Yeah, he just
free ranges. He does whatever he sort of wants. I'm
sure his advisors are like having the rice crossed after
you know, four sentences in. But something else that President
Biden did that I forgot to mention this. We had
big environmental stuff this past week. He finalized the first
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national standard to limit they call forever chemicals that are
found in our drinking water. Nearly half of the drinking
water in the US, which is a huge breakthrough this stuff.
Most of us have ninety seven percent if they they
test us of all Americans have the I have these
chemicals that are in their body. So to think of
all the new little little ones that are coming along
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that won't have any of this, because this will actually
go away. I absolutely love they also are he puts
more restrictions on chemical plants. Are two hundred chemical plants
that have to cut back on toxic pollutants that are
linked to cancer, which I think is which is terrific,
you know, and their there are chemicals that are used
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for like rubber and shoes and stuff, so there's purpose
for them. But they're going to have to figure out
another way. So I sort of like that too. Yeah,
I like any any progress. We already talked about the economy.
Oh you know something I saw? Oh go ahead, Sorry, heny.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
He is again, we are in such a crisis in
America Asian gentlemen. Neither one of these candidates are my favorites.
But the option that I have, that I personally have
because I'm lgbt Q I A plus, it's Joseph Biden.
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Because if you non committed and third party, I'm telling y'all,
y'all splitting the vote and wasting your time and wasting hours,
you're wasting the country's time. Yeah, I get it, I
understand it. I hear you. I see it. But you
waited too long to see eleventh hour. The only person
that shows up in the eleventh hour is the Lord. Baby,
the Lord don't want no part of this. If we
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wanted a third party Day one, when Joe Biden got
in office, we should have started pushing to have a
third part. We would have had four years to really
push that narrative. But now y'all waiting to really push this.
It's just senseless, Bobby, and I hate that they don't
push that. That you're wasting time and you're wasting that vote.
We need those votes.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
No, I agree with that. I was looking at when
I was doing some research over the past few days.
A couple of the newspapers were like, well, who could
it be If it wasn't Biden, who is it? Why
talk about it? You know he's already he's already accepted.
Why talk I know that we have to wait to
the convention until it's actually legit, but I just feel
like it's a waste of time and I think it's
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confusing people. I think that they think that they actually
can get somebody else in there, and I don't think
it's a I don't think that's a real thing.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
That's why I was telling you, Bobby, you have to
be decisive now. You have to make decisions for people
because the people don't know what. Sorry to say that
this this this generation seems that they don't know what
they want until you show it to him. Yeah, which
to say it, because that is where we are and
you have to be decisive. So if you are a
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leader or you are in a position of a thought.
That is why they bad what Trump says. Even though
Trump is lying, we know because we're seasoned, we understand
how the world works. He tells them what he wants
them to do, and they do it. The Democrats give
you a choice of this that you have to be
decisive with people so that they will make the right
decision because they don't know which decision to make.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
No, and you got to spell it. It's almost like kindergarten, right,
you gotta you gotta show me. You got to explain
all of the reasons they had. You know how they
have a lot of these Jimmy Kimmel does it all
the time. You know, these rovers in the street that
will that will speak to and they'll speak to anything.
But lately it's been political stuff. And I have watched
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them grill Trump backers, the real trumpelkins. Not we're not
talking about you know, the rest of the GOP and
the rest of the Republicans. We're talking about the far
far right. And they gave them a bunch of facts,
they were still backing them. There was just a blue
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collar guy, and that the the rover was saying, well,
you know, he doesn't pay his workers, and they he
gave like five different instances, and instead of being outraged,
she thought about it for a minute and then all
of a sudden, he's like, well, they didn't deserve it.
They probably didn't deserve that money. And I wanted to say,
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which I would have backed, but what if you didn't
get paid? What if all of a sudden decided you
did your full work and you weren't going to get paid,
Like I, they beyond drunk the kool aid. I just
don't understand. And we're not going to move those people.
So that's fine that thirty percent of you know, of
his base, that's terrific. It's the rest of the votes
that we need, especially those independent votes, so please people.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Well, Bobby, you just said something miracle that this would
that would be miraculous. You said if he did the
work and didn't get paid, first of all, he's never
going to do the work.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Well yeah, absolutely, Well, speaking of someone who didn't do
the work, Tesla had just had to settle a high
profile okase. But you know, that Elon Muskus going right
down with He's still backing his robotaxi thing, and you
know the autopilots, it works sometimes.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Elon Musk is a primary example. If you ever wonder
what it's like to have so much, too much money
and you don't know what to do, Yeah, he would
be the face of that because he just got ridiculous money.
Why he not vacation it somewhere? Why he not enjoying
his life?
Speaker 1 (44:24):
He is because he wants to say, well, they want power,
but then you have people like and then they're not perfect.
So don't everybody eat my face off. But like the
gates that are setting up all over the country, I
mean not out of the country, all over the world,
excuse me. All of these charities and trying to figure
out ways to make things better and how to put
in drainage and sewage and third world countries and get
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get food to them. Why can't he be doing that
instead he's worried about a robotaxi.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Which this is where we are, America. And I'm telling
you the decision is not on me and by me
and by me just talking about what you guys talk about.
The decision is us to us and getting into these polls.
November fourth, it will be whoo, get your bust to
the polls to make a decision for your life, for
your children's life, for your children's children's life. Because I'm
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telling you right now it's looking bleak.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
It is, but you don't. Let's leep. Let's end on
something positive. So March madness. The women won. Not only
did they win the not Iowa, I'm blank and I'm
having a brain cremp South Carolina. They had they had
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better viewership. They had eighteen point nine compared to the
men who had fourteen point seven.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
And a lot of that was brought on by that
star athlete Caitlin Clark. So yes's off to all who
brought it to women's First of all, it was a
women's college sports team, which is to get that many
viewers is like miraculous. That was miraculous because they love
to say that the WNBA and women's sports don't get
the coverage that they need. So you see that there
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is a great interest in women's sports. Now, since you
open this can of worms, Bobby, we're not going to
leave without this positive message from him.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I say again.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
So Dawn Staley, who is the coach of the team
from South Carolina, who this was their third consecutive win
for college, which was a great accomplishment. This is my
problem here. So some reporter asked her out of nowhere,
should trans women be involved in women's sports? And she
took a big drink of water because you could clearly
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see that she was uncomfortable with the question. She really
did not want to answer the question because they got you.
The society has us now to where you're almost afraid
to speak against the LGBT community or speak up four
because you just never know which way it's going to go.
She took a big drink of water. I think she's
a lesbian, and she said that, yes, I think that
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women should be trans women should be allowed to be
in sports. She's getting a lot of backlash for. But
my issue is not even that her answer, what her
answer was. My issue is that the reporter, out of
all these accomplishments, you are taking away to shine from
these young girls who just want who are on a
natural high, and you bring them down by asking this
question that had and I get that the question needed
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to be asked, but not at that time that was
not the time nor the place. My stance has not
changed on how I feel about trans athletes competing in
sports of a different gender, because here it is, and
here it is plainly to me. This is my opinion.
I am a transforman, but I am not an athlete.
We could ask it part of the lgbt Q I
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A plus community. We could come up with a new pronoun.
Every other day. You tell me that we can't band
together long enough to put together an organization to create
a trans league for our very talented trans athletes because
they keep saying, oh, it's not enough, it's not enough,
it's enough for you make a mistake about it. So
if it's that many people make a mistake about it, it
has to be that many athletes that want their own division.
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That is my staying. That is how I feel. Bobby,
you have your opinion may be different. I want to
hear it. No.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
And I'm sure that that reporter was responding to the
nai A say that ten times fast their new stance,
that that they don't want them to to compete trans
trans women to compete with biological women. So I'm sure
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they that since that topic was hot on the press,
that they probably wanted that. No, I'm with you. I
think I think you're you're putting forward a great solution.
I know that there might not be as many athletes
as there will be for biological women, but I think
that'd be enough if you didn't the country.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
But and Bobby, with that, I'm going to cut you
off everything to grow. If you plant a seed in
the ground, it has to grow and to become something else.
So when the Special Needs Olympics started, it was small.
When the NBA started, there were small leagues. Excuse me,
when the Paraplegics started, it was small, but it grew
into something started and allow it to grow because trans
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people are coming out more and more each and every day,
and I'm sure a lot of them want to participate
in sports, but they want to be in an arena,
whether they feel safe, whether they feel welcome, whether they
feel seen, where it's good competition and healthy competition. So
let's just plant that scene now and allow it to grow.
As opposed to taking my weeds and putting it in
your rose garden, destroying your rose garden. That is not
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what we want you to do.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
No, I agree with that. I mean your just Shriver
started the special Olympics in her back yard flame. That's
how small it was in the beginning. It is worldwide.
So maybe you each high school doesn't have their own
their own teams put together, but why can't you do
it by counting? So I live in Middlesex County, Middlesex
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County would have their own forty kids that would get
together and go against Essex or go against Suffolk. And
it's not going to be perfect in the beginning, but
I do want I want the kids to be safe too.
I want the biological girls to be safe, and I
want the I want trans girls to be a set.
I want them to be safe too. I don't want
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them too hard.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Create an environment to where I would feel safe as
a trans athlete running against another trans girl, because the
people who came to see me know exactly what they
came to see and support, not the hazing, not the hate,
not the booing, because they're already under scrutiny and already
on the defense about living their life as a trans person.
So now I got to have this double hurdle. So no,
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make a safe environment for them to compete, healthy and happy,
and make it a sport. But this is a crisis
that we are at, and it's going to be a topic.
And I think my personal opinion, and I've said this
and I'll say this again publicly, is that I think
to show good faith and to bin to bridge the
gap between trans athletes and biological athletes. If for Caitlin Jenner,
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who was given the SB Award for Women of the
Year because when she was Bruce and she was on
the WITTI box, I don't remember them giving her Athlete
of the Year, if she was to give that back
in good faith and say, you know what, thank you,
but let's change this to trans women of the Year
and allow women of the Year to have their lane
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and create a lane for trans athletes of the year.
I think that that would just say hey, we hear you.
We have come to the table to do just what
you do. You guys want to invite us in. We
want to come in on this term and everybody should
seem to be happy. But I don't know if that's
ever going to happen.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
By it, I just don't, but I hope I want
people to keep an open mind. You know, I don't
think you're saying to take away from anybody. And I don't know.
That's definitely not what I want. I want the athletes
to be able to to be able to compete, I mean,
because it's in their blood. But I want, I want
everybody to stay safe. I want the as I said,
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the biological girls to be able to stay safe physically.
I want the trans girls to be able to to
stay safe mentally and not feel like they're being put
out or ostracized or or whatever.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
I think.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
I think, Yeah, it's such a touch tough subject because
if someone doesn't get off the plot and do something soon,
you know, some of these kids are missing out, and
I don't think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
And again, if you are unsure about who you want
to vote for in this next election because you don't
like either one of the candidates, but you feel responsible
as an American to vote, please vote for me. Please
vote for me. If you don't understand what that means,
that means, vote for Joseph Biden. Because Joseph Biden not
only sees and hears what respects the lgbt Q I
A plus community. I know y'all might think, well, he
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ain't doing this and he ain't doing that. If you
have anybody affiliated in your life. That is part of
the community. Joe Biden is part of that. Because I'm
telling you right now, the Orange Man on a different mission,
and I'm not going to I can't say publicly what
it is, but I believe that he is on a
different mission. All right. Let me get off of that.
Let me get off my soapbox. Ladies and gentlemen, Thank
you guys so much for joining us here at Laugh
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and Learn. The twenty second. Less than two weeks from today,
on Monday, April twenty second, I and Bobby Clifford will
both be on the Sherry Shepherd Show. I'm the feature
comedian on the show for the laugh Line. It's her
big birthday show, so it's gonna be a big deal.
I'm having them acknowledge Bobby because that is my partner
on Laugh and Learn, and we are three episodes away
from season four. WHOA thank you, I hear, thank you
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Black Effect Network, thank you Aaron Howard, thank you Charlemagne,
the Gud and the Dolly Bishop. And that Later to day,
I'm doing a pop up show at Comedy in Harlem,
which will be like a live love lounge and a
Q and A and a whole bunch of other stuff
I got. We got a very special guest coming who
used to have a talk show. I can't tell you
her name, but be there find out. All the information
is on one of my websites. Secondly, I am so
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elated to say that I got my original Instagram page back,
Monroe Flame. We are back, yay, So follow me on
Instagram at Monroe Flame. Maybe I do a love lounge
tonight to really invite y'all back, since it's such a
beautiful day in California. Thirdly, April twenty sixth and twenty seventh,
I'll be in Kylleen, Texas at the twicees Fundy Comedy Club.
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May tenth is the big showcase for Netflix is a joke.
I'm going to show my new hour and if they
don't pick me up by that Monday the thirteenth, I'm
gonna start a go fund me on that Tuesday the
fourteenth to produce my own damn one hour special. June
the thirtieth, I will be in Chicago for Urban Pride,
and July nineteenth and twentieth, I will be at the
Uptown Comedy Club in Atlanta, Georgia. Go to my website
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check out everything but The biggest thing coming up is
the Shery Shepperd Show April twenty second, Oh and April
twenty third, I'm doing the Breakfast Club again. Yay. Let's
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It'll be my first time me just hilarious that I'm
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Because why Bobby, Because a mind is a terrible thing
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Speaker 1 (01:53):
How are you happy Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh Bobby, it's been a week. Happy Wednesdays week on
the countdown. This is episode number forty nine.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yes it is three more to go.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
We almost to the finished line, Bobby, till we could
start all over again. Hello, Flamett. Hello everyone out there
in radio and listening podcast land. Thank you to I
wanted to producer mister Aaron Howard. It has been a week,
ladies and gentlemen. It's a lot going on. I said,
a lot going on, and I'm talking about I don't
even want to get into none of my personals. I
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want to jump right into it because y'all been going
crazy about this eclipse. Oh it's an eclipse. Oh I'm talking.
I watched people just y'all made it like big parties,
and I know it was a you know, it was
maybe a once in a lifetime event, But girl, I
see an eclipse every time I take off my clothes
and walk in the bedroom, walk past the mirror, I
see my eclips. And I'm not talking about the front.
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I'm talking about the back, Liz.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I see all the craters and everything on mine.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So we really couldn't experience it here, Bobby, in southern
Californian we got a little grayness. But you guys over there,
y'all get it. Y'all get it really good.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
We weren't in the past. But but if you bought
the special glasses, which I did, they were twenty five
dollars or five on Amazon. When you looked up, I
will say, yeah, I even got my miserable sister Teresa
out and she was sort of mesmerized. You put them on.
It didn't get really dark. It looked a little dusky,
but didn't get dark. You looked up and you could
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see the bright sun and you could see something that
was covering it. In the beginning, it just looked like
a little bite was taken out, and by the end,
because we only had ninety two percent here of completion,
it looked like a little crescent moon. It was cool.
It was a cool thing. I'm glad I did it.
I forced myself to go out and I can say
I was there.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I just didn't want them to start blaming everything. Oh
my god, people are acting crazy because of the retro
grade and the come like, if people acting crazy, they
damn show acting crazy. Anyway. It had nothing to do
with the sun passing the moon or the moon passing
the sun. It's true, but it's any who. Where we at, Bobby,
where we're going, what we're doing first? Where we talking about?
I want to start with pleasant and we'll get to death.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
No, I don't even we don't even this, so so
we can move right soultop, it'll be pleasant and then
I won't. So today is e which is the end
of the Islamic holiday, the end of Ramadan. So that's wonderful.
It's a time of increased worship and charity and good
deeds and sort of like our time up to Christian's
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time up to Easter, and today would be like a
big feast, which is which is terrific. And they really fast,
like the Catholics we have the McDonald's are fasting. We
can have, you know, one meal and two light snacks,
kind of like slim fast with.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Ramadan. And the Muslims don't have or drink anything.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
They they are really they're extreme. Yeah, they're extreme because
doing it well while there's daylight, they can have no
think to eat. I'm like, I can't even have water.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
No, you've got to be They're so disciplined. I am
so not. Oh my god, yeah, happy happy. The thing
that wasn't happy is I was seeing on the news
that in Philadelphia there are three shots five in custody.
It was right next to an e celebration, So we
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don't know who are the people that actually were shot,
but supposedly everybody's in custody, which is which is pretty terrific.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Good something I know that is terrible. Religion. Religion, religion
and politics. Good God will shake some things up no
matter what the identity, nationality, wherever you live. Those are
two subjects that are sometimes very taboo to have a
mixed company. But prayers to the people that got shot.
But yeah, I was looking at the whole because I
(05:53):
was speaking with Dlay earlier and the whole Rabadan thing.
They I'm like, you, Bobby, they are serious about it.
Oh my god. Yeah, and then they tell me like
seventy five times a day on the little med I'm like, oh,
very sad. I'm like, you get of me. I'll be like, okay,
I'm tired of talking. You leave me alone.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
She's bitching about the same thing. That's what i'd got.
But but no, I hope that nobody involved because because
they don't have an actual link, it just happened to
be right beside it. So let's hope that there weren't
any innocence who were shot. Thirty shots though I mean
it was it was quite a lot. And return fire
from the from the police. So we'll get more on
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that as it comes along.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I would really like to be at one of these
Ramadan feast celebrations because I heard they have the real spree.
They have everything.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Oh my god, they should. I can't even imagine. I yeah,
not having anything. I'd almost be exhausted. They must like
chew twice and go, you know. But from all that, however,
many days they have of Ramadan, God bless them.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
So oh I think is a I think it's a week.
I'm not sure. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You know, now have to I have to go and
look it up. I feel like they see research, are
the research. It's something. As I'm looking that up though,
something that was actually good, it's not good because of
what happened. But the East Palestine, Ohio, you know the
train derailment. They actually have a six hundred million dollars
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settlement for that. As long as the court approves that,
and that will resolve all of the different lawsuits that
have come There are thousands of them within a twenty
mile radius. But their poor health.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, well and with that body so some people closer
I will get if they win this lawsuit. If they
passed this lawsuit, will give money for a certain thing,
for health care, for suffering, and for their damages to
their home in the air. But some people that were
further out will only get money for one like maybe
(08:01):
the air quality or something. I saw that. Yeah, because
if you were closer to it, you get more risk. Yeah, yeah,
it is.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's and you know, but some people aren't going to
be happy with that because everybody's gonna want the same.
And I will tell you the people that are very close,
so forget even what their physical damages are, because their
medical bills could be huge. Their property values have to
be worth nothing because I don't know how long these
chemicals will take before they they dissolve, So you know,
(08:30):
that's kind of scary. So Ramadan thirty days flame, thirty
days they.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Suffer thirty girl, that's ring, that's ring.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's a that's a lot of days not to eat.
I thought we should do it for a giant.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I would have to call Allah and Buddha and all
them people that's involved in it to be like, let
me tell you something, if I will not eat for
thirty days, you will have to pay my rent next
month or my mortgage. I'm just not it's a trade off.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Honest to God, icon even icon even and somebody else
that got their come up and were the crumblies they had,
That is the Ethan Crumbley who was the Oxford High
School student who had shot and killed. They are actually
the parents were held responsible as we knew. They actually
got their time. They're both to serve ten to fifteen
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years and we had spoken about it before. I loved
how the judge just debased them.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I think what got her was that the mother. You
know how they can they can say a speech so
the victims can speak to the to the parents, and
then the parents can come back. The mother didn't seem
she didn't get it. The little snippet that they played
on the news. Her big news to everybody was this
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could happen to you. No, her message should have been,
don't let it happen to you. Pay attention to your kids.
She still wasn't take any accountability up to the end.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Bobby, and as a parent, which we both are, I
heard that and I was heartbroken for the whole situation.
But I have done my whole due diligence with my
children and I'm not giving this woman or this man
to pass whatsoever. But I have done everything I could,
just teach my kids and show them to go the
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right way. You really have no control of what your
child gonna do. But the problem with that whole situation
is they knew that this kid was see the target
the school. They had went to the school that morning
and had a meeting with what she did with them,
and the kid was and then y'all give him a gun,
they taught was a joke. Yep, y'all get y'all got
(10:46):
exactly what y'all deserved. And then they put both the
father and the son. Both are in prison and in
separate prisons. So no, no, no, the father and son.
The son's side was, oh, oh we know that.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Oh oh, I see what you say.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, yeah, they put them. They didn't put them in
prison together. They separated the different facilities, which I think
is great, which I think is fantastic because he needs
his parents now, but when he really needed them, they
weren't there. So now you don't have the luxury of
having them, you.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Know what, flame he doesn't. I disagree with that to
the point of he doesn't need those parents right now.
He needed a good set of parents right now. He
wouldn't get anything off of them, and all they would
do is sit and look at themselves and how they
were victimized themselves. He needs somebody that's actually going to
listen to him if his is any hope of any
type of rehabilitation. And I don't think. I don't think
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he can even get out, but if he did, he
needs to. He needs some sort of therapy, not those
two dragging them down. Oh god, Oh yeah. So anyway, Crumblings,
they got there.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Well, since we're talking about bad parenting, let's keep it
moving on bad parenting. Because the Ebony Parker's her name,
and I only remember her name because her last name
is the same last name as mine. In Florida, the
one year old or the first grader who shot the teacher.
The teacher didn't die. They arrested her. They put her
in jail because she just did not care either. This
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was a black woman. The Crumbleis were white people. And
this is what I'm saying, and I'm not saying this
to point out they're racist, but you just people are people.
It has nothing to do with the color. Bad people
are bad people, and good people are good people, and
non caring people are non caring people. But they arrested her, asked,
and slammed her in jail because this one year old
boy took us gun to school and they knew that
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he would have violent tendencies. They had warned her and
warned her, and she just did not care.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And I'd love to know what he saw in the
home that made the violent tendencies and what did the
other one see in the home. I mean, there are
some children that are born, they're a chemical and bound.
There are all sorts of things that are wrong to
begin with, but at such a young age, I'd love
to see and I'm with you, flame Aussols come in
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all colors, shapes, and sizes.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I don't want to know what went on in their Homeboby,
because then we would probably really be mortified on what
we did not know on the other side. But I'm
hoping that this sets I hope I'm kind of on
the fence about I hope it sets the presidents for
parents on both sides, because now I'm looking at it
like some parents really do do all they can to
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make sure that their children are in a good place,
and the kids still, like you said, they still turn
out to be bad. Sees, But so do we hold
those parents accountable? Because now how do you differentiate I
was a great parent and my kids turned out messed up,
or I was a bad parent and my kids turned
out messed up.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
You see the effort, right, So one of the easy
things that they saw was exactly what you just discussed.
The mother was an earlier. She sends a text, don't
get caught. That's not a good parent. And the judge
even said she wasn't judging it. I would have been judging.
But if you have a parent, like I'm super white,
my kid complained about feeling sad one day and had
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his ass and a therapist. If you have a parent
that's making an effort and doing everything within their within
their control, then no, they should not be held accountable
because we can't. We can only do what we can do.
And I probably went the other way. I think that
I over indulged my son trying to help, and I
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didn't let him solve some of his little problems himself.
And that's how we learn. Cuping is to to be
knocked down and how you're actually going to pick yourself up.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Well, And I'm only pointed that out to say that
because we get so we faced such racism in this
country right now. But I just wanted you to see
that we are the same people. Some of us just
do different things. And that's not to say that we're
all bad. There are good people with good parents, great parents,
but that was that was just a mess up situation
all the way around. And and since we harped on that, Bobby,
we're going to stay right in the same subject. Right now.
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Here in California, a lady a mental illness, I believe
you know, stabbed her boyfriend and then through to her
nine year old and her I think eight month old
out the car on the four or five freeway, which
is one of the most dangerous freeways here in California,
in southern California, and the eight month old died apparently
on impact. The boyfriend died. She crashed the car into
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a brick wall and killed herself. But the nine year
old is still alive. And I thank god that the
nine year old is still alive, but still alive. To
what what kind of damage has been permanently done to
this kid? Right?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
It almost would have been better, And trust me, I
really don't mean this. It almost would have been better
if it had flip flopped, because the nine year old's
going to remember everything. They have a memory. The six
month old would not have had a memory, you know,
like they wouldn't you know somehow they could have been spared.
I don't, but you know, either way, I'm sure that
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nothing's going to make it, make it better.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Prayers to all involve the victims, and also listen, I
know I'm growing up, I'm getting older, the victims and
also the victimizers, because I hate to see people in
chronic pain and hurt and I just don't know what
kind of place you could possibly be in, and I
don't ever want to know either. I'm saying this hypothetically
that I would do some harm or cause some bodily
(16:26):
injury or harm to my own children, because here's the
thing we are as parents, we are supposed to cover
and protect our children. I don't know where she was
at her mind mentally, or what life had did to her.
And that's why I said earlier when we talked, you
never know, you know, we quick to say, oh, she
was crazy, she was this, so this person was that,
But you never know what kind of stripes life gives
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you that you came in because life is going to
give you some stripes.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Absolutely, and you were right. Eight months and the eight
months old she could have had postpartum depression. Plane yeah,
you know, and had some sort of psychotic break, which
is which is absolutely awful. I hope that the baby
died an impact and somebody didn't run over it.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well that's what they said, that the baby dad will impeg.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Oh thank god.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So that was tragic. But and speaking as a parent
and as a dad, even though I'm transgendered, I was
with my baby mom and she went through postpart of it,
and I never believed that that was real. You know,
you would hear that she just don't want to be
bothered with no kids. They don't want to have to
be no parent, they won't have no baby. But I
witnessed it with my own eyes, and we didn't know
what it was. But when we found out what it was,
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I seen it. So I understand that for women I seen.
I've actually physically watched her emotions go twelve thousand emotions
in five minutes, from happy to laughing to crying, to
say to depressed to just dark until oh it was bonkers, Bobby.
And so yeah, that is postpartum is definitely a real thing. Okay,
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where we going, y'all? Where we going, Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
So the other thing, of course, now that I have
to fly, I am going to be all nervous is
air safety. Boeing is is being investigated.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Thank god.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
They had a whistleblower. I think it was an engineer
who said that they were cheaping out on some of
their planes as they were putting them together. So keep
your ears open for plan fear any cracks or bangs,
report it. Hopefully that they'll be able to somehow though
on this they'll they'll discover something or be able to
(18:26):
repair whatever the existing fleet is and and maybe discover,
you know, something else that's gone wrong in other planes
before it they actually go back up into the air.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, and we've been flying. I've been flying more a lot.
Very Yeah. That's very scary, Bobby, because you just don't know,
good god, I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
You don't They they had a Southwest, which is also
a Boeing, that had to return to Denver International after
losing an engine cover. I don't know if that keeps
out the dust. I know when my car sounded like
a truck, when the when the cover on the underneath
came off, so I can only imagine what it sounds
like on a plane. But the passengers replaced reported it.
They you know, everybody was telling me there's airline stewards.
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I know that's not the right thing to call them anymore,
that's not BC. But they attended. There you go, there
you go. So thank god. I am just looking. Oh god.
You know who had a really bad day today? Was
was Mike Johnson.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Late this afternoon, they had they had his own people
had voted down that that I think it's FISA fi
s A that Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act bill. That's the
bill that allows the US government to collect without warrants
or anything, communications of non Americans that are located outside
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the country.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
And for those of you all who are listening in,
Mike Johnson is the Speaker of the House.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Oh yes, I'm so sorry. And who killed it was Trump.
He feels that that they listen into his his election
is campaign, which is completely untrue because he's a he's
a American citizen that's within the country. They use it
to spy on him. So he put it out there
(20:17):
on truth Social to kill the bill, and it was
killed and sort of everything was killed. They didn't get
anything accomplished. They were supposed to be talking about a
to Ukraine. And President Zelensky is he's adamant that they're
going to end up losing the war soon if they
don't get some sort of help. I don't know, They're
(20:39):
going to have to do something. This is this is
absolutely crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
And President Zelensky, I hope that they get the help
that they need because he has put up such a
state fight. He has put up the good fight.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
He really has, and he's like he's there, he's he's
walking the walk. He's not walking around in a beautiful suit,
and he is like, you know, right down order and ordering.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Chick fil A, gonna say it, gonna say it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Oh my god, I kin'd even I can't even talk
about the Chick fil A thing.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I'm sop. So the backstory about this before we get
into that story, is Bobby Clifford absolutely loves Chick fil A.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Oh yes I do. I'm addicted. I need a twelve
step Hi, my name is Bobby. And then looking for
a for a support club.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I like Chick fil A, but not every day. Good god. Uh.
We'll get to that story. Later, y'all just hold on
to that. Where we going next? Bobby C.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
So, oh, I don't even know. If we want to,
we might as well go into Trump. His stocks are plumbing.
They've been all over the place. It's lowered his value
by a million dollars, not that he seems to needed
at the current time, although he likes to brag. He
wanted to postpone the hush money trial, which is really
(21:58):
election interferen's trial. We just call it hush money and nope.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So his apparently so his podcast not his podcast, so
his streaming, his streaming service tanked.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
It's not it's not worth what he's got. He thought
he's he dropped by a billion, so he must have
been bragging on it. They say that the the listenership
is not that high. I had the numbers last week,
but I didn't put him up against this this week.
I apologize. I'll put him up for next week. So
it's you know, if you don't have listeners, then you're
(22:33):
not bringing in ads and all that jazz. So not
that great. I mean, I don't even know what truth
social looks like. I wouldn't even know what to get it.
I guess the app store.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
No, well, he'll just put up an ad, a go
fund me, or you know, sell he's been selling sneakers
and bibles. Maybe he'll start selling used cups from Chick
fil A. Since he was just.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Articulating, maybe he want maybe he was applaning for a job.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
And he ordered thirty milkshakes and chicken sandwiches. And it
was in a very African American area that he went
to this Chick fil A in and they had a
woman who came up and said that she didn't care
what the media said, that we were we stand behind Trump.
And it looked staged. It looked very uh and I
(23:25):
would when people were questioning why would he go to
Chick fil a, Listen, that was a step up because
you know, he served the football players McDonald's in the
White House, so that was technically a step up.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I mean, they did say that day that he was
going to be at a fundraising luncheon. Maybe that's where
he brought used Maybe he brought his donors to Chick
fil A for a chicken sandwich and although it would
have been delicious and a milkshake. But it looks like
the hush money trial is going to be starting on time.
The judge released a questionnaire for Jerry selection, which I
(24:00):
was super smart because then they can sort of start
to vet people, and he asks if they're part of
any Proud Boys organization or antifat anything like that. He
is also asking them if they have ever been to
any of the former president's rallies. So I think he's
trying to, you know, uh, squeeze out the ones that
(24:23):
we don't want, and then if they lie, you know,
they can come back after them. If they answered, if
they fibbed down there.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
As well, you're ready to come back after them because
they're all lying. And now you see, But we got
off of Mike Johnson too quick. But did you see
that mis Taylor Green was called to a conference with
Mike Johnson because she was the one who was screaming
to have him removed as speaker at the house. He's
not my favorite either, but I would, God forbid, I
would rather swallow broken glass and agree with Marjorie Taylor Green.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
They well, I would to. I mean, first of all,
it would be horrible for the country. We need a speaker.
We just just spoke two seconds ago about Ukraine. We
also have aid that needs to go out to to
the Palestinians, right, we have to get aid to to Gaza.
I think we need to almost hold off a little
bit on Israel to see what Netanyahu's gonna do. If
he's gonna let the aid in easily, and if he's
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gonna he's gonna take his part and feed these poor
people and make sure that they have housing. But we
need to be doing something. We compy without a speaker,
I mean, it's it's unfathomable, it's it's reckless.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
In her God, we can't do without a speaker. But
we can damn shoe without We can damn she do
without a Marjorie.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Oh my god. Absolutely, I mean and I'm not so
I'm not thrilled over him either. But the one thing
that I do know is that he's been trying to work.
It's on staff. You know, he would I think he
would like to even bring the Ukraine forward, but you
know he's got those far right people that are that
are screaming about it. But it mean, use your head.
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If we don't help the Ukrainians and to put the
war here, or they'll end up attacking you know, our
foreign interests. No, this this is nuts.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, we were doing bumby. We're in the place. But
I'm telling you something right now, when it comes down
to this election and where we are and how we stand,
I'm gonna call on rallying biological women to save us.
The only thing that will save this this election is women.
Women are the ones who stand to risk the most
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loss in this next election if the Orange man wins,
because he wants to already say he liked the grab
yard by the wuha, now he wants to own your
wuha with this whole abortion thing. And he has flip
flopped and swung his legs and fence road the whole
time because he was the loud voice and the proud
ones to scream, oh, I put three elected right people
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on the Supreme Court, three conservative judges on the Supreme Court.
We overturn Roe versus Way. But now he's backtracking because
he perceived that women. He's losing the side of women
that were even the younger demographic that was teen Trump
because now you are trying to tell a woman what
she can and cannot do with her body. And I'm
telling you right now, Bobby, I need women to pay
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attention to the flip flopping and the Flint family because
women rallying together and I'm talking about biological women who
can have babies, who have uteruses, can save this country
if they band together. Yep, Biden, it might not be
your favorite, Biden might not be doing everything that you
want him to do, but Biden is not trying to
invade your privacy when it comes down to the decision
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that you want to make about your body on what
you want to do, he is not no.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
And he's certainly for reproductive rights. I mean, you know,
the big hallabulu this week was the Arizona Supreme Court
rules state is going to go away here to one
hundred and sixty year old law that bands abortions except
for if you can, if you can save the mom's life.
Forget about rape, forget about incest. This is something that
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was codified back in nineteen oh one, before Arizona was
even a state. In nineteen twelve.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, it was eighteen sixty four. And Bobby, you made
two very pertinent points. But that's what people keep saying,
unless it's incests or less it's rape. How about I'm
not ready to be a mother. How about I'm not
ready to have a baby because I'm not mentally or
in a financial place to take care of it. But
then when you have the baby and you're not mentally
or physically ready, stuff like what we just talked about
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earlier with the woman getting rid of her children, you know,
or just being a horrible parent, then none of that
is being taken into accountability. It is just either you
have it and you deal with it, or it's our
way that is just not you're not taking Some people
don't want to be parents. Yes they had sex, Yes
they made a mistake. Sometimes the contraceptives don't work, the
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condom breaks, or the such and such doesn't work, the
IUD so, you know, or the shot just didn't take.
Anything could happen. So you're not giving me a choice.
And I don't want to be a parent. I'm not
ready to be a mother. I don't want to have
a kid at this time of my life, or I
don't ever want to have a kid. That don't make me.
I don't want to feel guilty that I'm not having sex,
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that I shouldn't have sex. It's just it's so many
variables to this. But women, women, if you hear me,
the ball is in your court. You got all the
aces I need you to play them. I need you
to play the hell out of them too.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I think this will be the Achilles Heel for the
Republicans because even the Arizona Attorney General she vowed that
she would she would never this is a draconian law
and she will never prosecute anybody for this because they're
telling providers that if they perform the service, they could
be I think it's two to five years that they
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could go in prison for.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, they could lock up the doctors.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Absolutely. They had on Oh my god, And I wrote
her name down somewhere and I can't find it here.
It was a sound from Arizona. And she actually just
had an abortion two weeks ago. She has had many
she's had infertility issues, she's had many miscarriages, and she
found out that her current pregnancy that the heartbeat went
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and and she needed to well we so they call
it abortion, but it's it's a d n C that
that that's also what people are calling it. And so
she was very concerned that her provider, had they had
they done this, would face up to two to five
years in prison. You know, it's ridiculous. And then Trump's
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trying to say that he wants to make it a
state's issue. Well, you're going to have states that are
going to be completely empty. If that's the issue. Going
to the other states, you know, it's absolutely crazy. You know,
the people will be moving.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
So I am telling you now he wants to go
from state to state. But he held his head up
high and raised the flag that he was the one
who's single handedly pushed to have Row versus Way overturned
just two to.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Three weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
So, so like people have to think about it.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Listen, I need y'all to pay attention to what you
are facing because if he changed his man on thatt,
if y'all put him in office, what else will he
change his man on?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, and now it's ridiculous. So first he was bragging
about that. Now that he's saying Arizona has just gone
too far. Please, I can't. I can't even I'm looking.
I think that's I think that's all for him. He's
he's going to be. The Supreme Court's going to hear
his arguments, the community arguments on April twenty fifth, and
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I think that they're saying July hopefully that they'll be
they'll be they'll be through. I hope that Jack Smith
is like on it like a bonnet and we'll be
able to move as of July, because that's what he's
counting on.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Right he is going to lose. I'm saying that today
and I'm manifesting. And they said during the eclipse, if
you manifest something, I'm manifesting that he will not be
the president of the United States. I hope to God.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I hope to Godden. But I'll tell you the guy
who I hope is because he is our choice choice
right now. He just announced Monday about more student debt relief.
So I know that a lot of people aren't seeing
either their group. They're not they're not hearing the words
that President Biden is working working for you, But he is.
He He might not be doing absolutely everything that that
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that you want, but he's doing everything that he can
get passed through the Congress, Senate, and what he can
get done that won't end up going to court by
executive order like he was trying to get student on
the first time, and then of course he was brought
to court over it. So the new the new proposal,
I guess it scales back. It'll give potentially up to
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five thousand dollars and then there are there are you know,
the other side is really unhappy. It's not fair to
taxpayers who didn't need it. But that's how a lot
of stuff goes, you know, like when we have taxes
that are raised for schooling. I don't have any kids
that are in school anymore. Why should I have to pay?
Because that's the way. That's how society works, you know.
And what's good. If people have more money to spend,
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they're going to be stimulating the economy, which which is
a little up right now three point five percent. It
went up because because cost costs for housing, costs for gasoline,
costs for groceries are not they're a little stubborn. They're
not coming down. So I mean, but that's how it
sort of works. The other thing President Biden did, and
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I haven't heard a lot about it. I don't know
if you have flame, is that he was hosting the
Prime Minister from Japan, Fubio Kashida, I believe, and his wife,
as well as for the President of the of the Philippines,
the Prime Minister of the Philippines, trying to show that
we're we're you know, working together and that the economy
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is going going well, blah blah blah. I know that
Japan was looking to take over the American Steel, a big,
huge American steel company, but that wasn't on the agenda.
Usually there are like twelve things on the agenda for
when we have these big state dinners in these powows.
But President Biden has actually packed it with seventy things.
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So hopefully they get a little bit done. Paul Simon's
going to be performing at the at the dinner that
would come kind of be nice.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
President Biden is on his hustle. He trying you know
his hustle right now.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, he's trying to get in whatever he can too elected,
but whatever he can get pasted. On the off chance
that he doesn't get in, what can he what can
he move? Can you believe they're still talking about impeaching
my orcists? I guess that that's they. It's got a
few days. They've got until next week to get their
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their articles in order. It just seems so stupid because
it's not going to go anywhere. So, I mean, what
a waste of tax, pay your money.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It's a lot of distractions.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
But you just said it. It is a lot of
it just directions everything to disrect from what we were
supposed to be paying attention, which is the election. You know,
Alaska and Wyoming are going to have their caucus, the
Democratic caucus this week, so there's no surprise. We know
that it will be Biden. But a lot of the
what do you think about the A lot of the
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television networks are are coming together. They want to see
some sort of some sort of debate between Biden and Trump,
and I think Biden has been putting it off because
Trump is notoriously bad and he lies the entire time.
I think it would be fruitless, to be quite honest.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
With you, well, I think that Biden has the right
idea because this generation is and not just the youth,
but a lot of people are really directed by the
Internet and they are very indecisive. So Trump Trump's voice
is authoritative and is strong even when he lies, and
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he pushes the narrative so you will believe what he's saying.
So I'm kind of weird Byen because if they did
go at it, Biden is not going to be rude
and disrespectful or loud and obnoxious, but he's going to
be factual. But the society that we live in right now,
don't want factual, they want the antics. They want the foolishness,
and that's what they'll believe. So I'm kind of weird
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by it. And I don't think that he if he
didn't do any of the other debates, because we already
know who he is, there's no need for us. That's
right show by Trump. Trump shows us every single day
exactly who he is.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Right, you're exactly And I think so too. I don't.
I wanted to see them the last go around, but
now after seeing he No, it's not gonna go anywhere.
We're not gonna get answers. He's gonna talk like bibbity
bobbity blue, the sky is blue. No it's not, it's
red it. You know, it's just gonna be nonsensical. He's
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just gonna throw out catchphrases.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
It reminds me of his uh oh Alaska Palin remember
when she was she was debating, like she talked about
park bellies, like she made no sense, She never answered
the question. You always saw the moderator kind of looking
at her, and.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Like what I think Biden, whoever's advising him on this
is very savvy with this because it could turn out
bad for Biden because Trump already showed what he debated
Hillary Clinton, that he walked around her, and it was
it was very it was very distracting, and it was
very aggressive. It was and it made the aggressive Americans
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that believe him by in Trump, that's what we should do.
This is how you do it. But it was it
was never the right thing. It was just what he did.
So yeah, I'm I know, absolutely not. If he did
not debate with all the other candidates, then he should
not debate Biden went on one. Because it's not that
I don't think Biden is qualified to handle him, but
he's going to be a nightmare. And that is what
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they want. They want that hostility. His followers want that
combativeness and that argumentative and that disagreeableness. They thrive on it.
They drink that kool aid. Oh my god, that KOULI
could not have no sugar. I don't even like orange
kool aid.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
It is he was like stock I ish you know
what it reminds me of. It will remind me of
a bad wrestling match. You know how one just keeps
circling the other one. You're waiting for them to pounce.
I don't need the theatrics. I've got enough stress in
my life.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
He won't come prepared. You know, you can't prepare him
because he knows better than everybody else.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Well, he always goes off. He always goes off topic.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Always goes figure off topic, he goes Yeah, he just
free ranges. He does whatever he sort of wants. I'm
sure his advisors are like having the rice crossed after
you know, four sentences in. But something else that President
Biden did that I forgot to mention this. We had
big environmental stuff this past week. He finalized the first
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national standard to limit they call forever chemicals that are
found in our drinking water. Nearly half of the drinking
water in the US, which is a huge breakthrough this stuff.
Most of us have ninety seven percent if they they
test us of all Americans have the I have these
chemicals that are in their body. So to think of
all the new little little ones that are coming along
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that won't have any of this, because this will actually
go away. I absolutely love they also are he puts
more restrictions on chemical plants. Are two hundred chemical plants
that have to cut back on toxic pollutants that are
linked to cancer, which I think is which is terrific,
you know, and their there are chemicals that are used
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for like rubber and shoes and stuff, so there's purpose
for them. But they're going to have to figure out
another way. So I sort of like that too. Yeah,
I like any any progress. We already talked about the economy.
Oh you know something I saw? Oh go ahead, Sorry, heny.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
He is again, we are in such a crisis in
America Asian gentlemen. Neither one of these candidates are my favorites.
But the option that I have, that I personally have
because I'm lgbt Q I A plus, it's Joseph Biden.
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Because if you non committed and third party, I'm telling y'all,
y'all splitting the vote and wasting your time and wasting hours,
you're wasting the country's time. Yeah, I get it, I
understand it. I hear you. I see it. But you
waited too long to see eleventh hour. The only person
that shows up in the eleventh hour is the Lord. Baby,
the Lord don't want no part of this. If we
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wanted a third party Day one, when Joe Biden got
in office, we should have started pushing to have a
third part. We would have had four years to really
push that narrative. But now y'all waiting to really push this.
It's just senseless, Bobby, and I hate that they don't
push that. That you're wasting time and you're wasting that vote.
We need those votes.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
No, I agree with that. I was looking at when
I was doing some research over the past few days.
A couple of the newspapers were like, well, who could
it be If it wasn't Biden, who is it? Why
talk about it? You know he's already he's already accepted.
Why talk I know that we have to wait to
the convention until it's actually legit, but I just feel
like it's a waste of time and I think it's
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confusing people. I think that they think that they actually
can get somebody else in there, and I don't think
it's a I don't think that's a real thing.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
That's why I was telling you, Bobby, you have to
be decisive now. You have to make decisions for people
because the people don't know what. Sorry to say that
this this this generation seems that they don't know what
they want until you show it to him. Yeah, which
to say it, because that is where we are and
you have to be decisive. So if you are a
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leader or you are in a position of a thought.
That is why they bad what Trump says. Even though
Trump is lying, we know because we're seasoned, we understand
how the world works. He tells them what he wants
them to do, and they do it. The Democrats give
you a choice of this that you have to be
decisive with people so that they will make the right
decision because they don't know which decision to make.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
No, and you got to spell it. It's almost like kindergarten, right,
you gotta you gotta show me. You got to explain
all of the reasons they had. You know how they
have a lot of these Jimmy Kimmel does it all
the time. You know, these rovers in the street that
will that will speak to and they'll speak to anything.
But lately it's been political stuff. And I have watched
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them grill Trump backers, the real trumpelkins. Not we're not
talking about you know, the rest of the GOP and
the rest of the Republicans. We're talking about the far
far right. And they gave them a bunch of facts,
they were still backing them. There was just a blue
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collar guy, and that the the rover was saying, well,
you know, he doesn't pay his workers, and they he
gave like five different instances, and instead of being outraged,
she thought about it for a minute and then all
of a sudden, he's like, well, they didn't deserve it.
They probably didn't deserve that money. And I wanted to say,
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which I would have backed, but what if you didn't
get paid? What if all of a sudden decided you
did your full work and you weren't going to get paid,
Like I, they beyond drunk the kool aid. I just
don't understand. And we're not going to move those people.
So that's fine that thirty percent of you know, of
his base, that's terrific. It's the rest of the votes
that we need, especially those independent votes, so please people.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Well, Bobby, you just said something miracle that this would
that would be miraculous. You said if he did the
work and didn't get paid, first of all, he's never
going to do the work.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Well yeah, absolutely, Well, speaking of someone who didn't do
the work, Tesla had just had to settle a high
profile okase. But you know, that Elon Muskus going right
down with He's still backing his robotaxi thing, and you
know the autopilots, it works sometimes.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Elon Musk is a primary example. If you ever wonder
what it's like to have so much, too much money
and you don't know what to do, Yeah, he would
be the face of that because he just got ridiculous money.
Why he not vacation it somewhere? Why he not enjoying
his life?
Speaker 1 (44:24):
He is because he wants to say, well, they want power,
but then you have people like and then they're not perfect.
So don't everybody eat my face off. But like the
gates that are setting up all over the country, I
mean not out of the country, all over the world,
excuse me. All of these charities and trying to figure
out ways to make things better and how to put
in drainage and sewage and third world countries and get
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get food to them. Why can't he be doing that
instead he's worried about a robotaxi.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Which this is where we are, America. And I'm telling
you the decision is not on me and by me
and by me just talking about what you guys talk about.
The decision is us to us and getting into these polls.
November fourth, it will be whoo, get your bust to
the polls to make a decision for your life, for
your children's life, for your children's children's life. Because I'm
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telling you right now it's looking bleak.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
It is, but you don't. Let's leep. Let's end on
something positive. So March madness. The women won. Not only
did they win the not Iowa, I'm blank and I'm
having a brain cremp South Carolina. They had they had
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better viewership. They had eighteen point nine compared to the
men who had fourteen point seven.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
And a lot of that was brought on by that
star athlete Caitlin Clark. So yes's off to all who
brought it to women's First of all, it was a
women's college sports team, which is to get that many
viewers is like miraculous. That was miraculous because they love
to say that the WNBA and women's sports don't get
the coverage that they need. So you see that there
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is a great interest in women's sports. Now, since you
open this can of worms, Bobby, we're not going to
leave without this positive message from him.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I say again.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
So Dawn Staley, who is the coach of the team
from South Carolina, who this was their third consecutive win
for college, which was a great accomplishment. This is my
problem here. So some reporter asked her out of nowhere,
should trans women be involved in women's sports? And she
took a big drink of water because you could clearly
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see that she was uncomfortable with the question. She really
did not want to answer the question because they got you.
The society has us now to where you're almost afraid
to speak against the LGBT community or speak up four
because you just never know which way it's going to go.
She took a big drink of water. I think she's
a lesbian, and she said that, yes, I think that
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women should be trans women should be allowed to be
in sports. She's getting a lot of backlash for. But
my issue is not even that her answer, what her
answer was. My issue is that the reporter, out of
all these accomplishments, you are taking away to shine from
these young girls who just want who are on a
natural high, and you bring them down by asking this
question that had and I get that the question needed
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to be asked, but not at that time that was
not the time nor the place. My stance has not
changed on how I feel about trans athletes competing in
sports of a different gender, because here it is, and
here it is plainly to me. This is my opinion.
I am a transforman, but I am not an athlete.
We could ask it part of the lgbt Q I
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A plus community. We could come up with a new pronoun.
Every other day. You tell me that we can't band
together long enough to put together an organization to create
a trans league for our very talented trans athletes because
they keep saying, oh, it's not enough, it's not enough,
it's enough for you make a mistake about it. So
if it's that many people make a mistake about it, it
has to be that many athletes that want their own division.
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That is my staying. That is how I feel. Bobby,
you have your opinion may be different. I want to
hear it. No.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
And I'm sure that that reporter was responding to the
nai A say that ten times fast their new stance,
that that they don't want them to to compete trans
trans women to compete with biological women. So I'm sure
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they that since that topic was hot on the press,
that they probably wanted that. No, I'm with you. I
think I think you're you're putting forward a great solution.
I know that there might not be as many athletes
as there will be for biological women, but I think
that'd be enough if you didn't the country.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
But and Bobby, with that, I'm going to cut you
off everything to grow. If you plant a seed in
the ground, it has to grow and to become something else.
So when the Special Needs Olympics started, it was small.
When the NBA started, there were small leagues. Excuse me,
when the Paraplegics started, it was small, but it grew
into something started and allow it to grow because trans
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people are coming out more and more each and every day,
and I'm sure a lot of them want to participate
in sports, but they want to be in an arena,
whether they feel safe, whether they feel welcome, whether they
feel seen, where it's good competition and healthy competition. So
let's just plant that scene now and allow it to grow.
As opposed to taking my weeds and putting it in
your rose garden, destroying your rose garden. That is not
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what we want you to do.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
No, I agree with that. I mean your just Shriver
started the special Olympics in her back yard flame. That's
how small it was in the beginning. It is worldwide.
So maybe you each high school doesn't have their own
their own teams put together, but why can't you do
it by counting? So I live in Middlesex County, Middlesex
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County would have their own forty kids that would get
together and go against Essex or go against Suffolk. And
it's not going to be perfect in the beginning, but
I do want I want the kids to be safe too.
I want the biological girls to be safe, and I
want the I want trans girls to be a set.
I want them to be safe too. I don't want
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them too hard.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Create an environment to where I would feel safe as
a trans athlete running against another trans girl, because the
people who came to see me know exactly what they
came to see and support, not the hazing, not the hate,
not the booing, because they're already under scrutiny and already
on the defense about living their life as a trans person.
So now I got to have this double hurdle. So no,
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make a safe environment for them to compete, healthy and happy,
and make it a sport. But this is a crisis
that we are at, and it's going to be a topic.
And I think my personal opinion, and I've said this
and I'll say this again publicly, is that I think
to show good faith and to bin to bridge the
gap between trans athletes and biological athletes. If for Caitlin Jenner,
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who was given the SB Award for Women of the
Year because when she was Bruce and she was on
the WITTI box, I don't remember them giving her Athlete
of the Year, if she was to give that back
in good faith and say, you know what, thank you,
but let's change this to trans women of the Year
and allow women of the Year to have their lane
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and create a lane for trans athletes of the year.
I think that that would just say hey, we hear you.
We have come to the table to do just what
you do. You guys want to invite us in. We
want to come in on this term and everybody should
seem to be happy. But I don't know if that's
ever going to happen.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
By it, I just don't, but I hope I want
people to keep an open mind. You know, I don't
think you're saying to take away from anybody. And I don't know.
That's definitely not what I want. I want the athletes
to be able to to be able to compete, I mean,
because it's in their blood. But I want, I want
everybody to stay safe. I want the as I said,
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the biological girls to be able to stay safe physically.
I want the trans girls to be able to to
stay safe mentally and not feel like they're being put
out or ostracized or or whatever.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
I think.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
I think, Yeah, it's such a touch tough subject because
if someone doesn't get off the plot and do something soon,
you know, some of these kids are missing out, and
I don't think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
And again, if you are unsure about who you want
to vote for in this next election because you don't
like either one of the candidates, but you feel responsible
as an American to vote, please vote for me. Please
vote for me. If you don't understand what that means,
that means, vote for Joseph Biden. Because Joseph Biden not
only sees and hears what respects the lgbt Q I
A plus community. I know y'all might think, well, he
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ain't doing this and he ain't doing that. If you
have anybody affiliated in your life. That is part of
the community. Joe Biden is part of that. Because I'm
telling you right now, the Orange Man on a different mission,
and I'm not going to I can't say publicly what
it is, but I believe that he is on a
different mission. All right. Let me get off of that.
Let me get off my soapbox. Ladies and gentlemen, Thank
you guys so much for joining us here at Laugh
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and Learn. The twenty second. Less than two weeks from today,
on Monday, April twenty second, I and Bobby Clifford will
both be on the Sherry Shepherd Show. I'm the feature
comedian on the show for the laugh Line. It's her
big birthday show, so it's gonna be a big deal.
I'm having them acknowledge Bobby because that is my partner
on Laugh and Learn, and we are three episodes away
from season four. WHOA thank you, I hear, thank you
(53:42):
Black Effect Network, thank you Aaron Howard, thank you Charlemagne,
the Gud and the Dolly Bishop. And that Later to day,
I'm doing a pop up show at Comedy in Harlem,
which will be like a live love lounge and a
Q and A and a whole bunch of other stuff
I got. We got a very special guest coming who
used to have a talk show. I can't tell you
her name, but be there find out. All the information
is on one of my websites. Secondly, I am so
(54:03):
elated to say that I got my original Instagram page back,
Monroe Flame. We are back, yay, So follow me on
Instagram at Monroe Flame. Maybe I do a love lounge
tonight to really invite y'all back, since it's such a
beautiful day in California. Thirdly, April twenty sixth and twenty seventh,
I'll be in Kylleen, Texas at the twicees Fundy Comedy Club.
(54:24):
May tenth is the big showcase for Netflix is a joke.
I'm going to show my new hour and if they
don't pick me up by that Monday the thirteenth, I'm
gonna start a go fund me on that Tuesday the
fourteenth to produce my own damn one hour special. June
the thirtieth, I will be in Chicago for Urban Pride,
and July nineteenth and twentieth, I will be at the
Uptown Comedy Club in Atlanta, Georgia. Go to my website
(54:46):
check out everything but The biggest thing coming up is
the Shery Shepperd Show April twenty second, Oh and April
twenty third, I'm doing the Breakfast Club again. Yay. Let's
see how many views we get out of this one.
It'll be my first time me just hilarious that I'm
looking forward to that. So y'all tune in and listen.
You could follow me on all social media platforms at Flame,
(55:06):
Monrow and Instagram at Moro Flame. And where can we
find you at Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Oh, I just hang around the same places, so Clifford
Bobby on Instagram and on Facebook, Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
Yes, and thank you guys so much. Listen, we are
on our way to season four. Thank you Aaron Howard,
our producer. We appreciate you here, we see you, we
hear you, and we adore you, and we will catch
you next week because I'll tell you what. Here at
laugh a Learn, the motto has not changed and we'll
never change. Here at Laughing Learn, we are not trying
to get you to change your mind. We are only
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trying to get you to use your mind.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
Because why Bobby, Because a mind is a terrible thing
to waste and A.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
Vote for the wrong party is even worse thing to waste,
so vote right. Thank you so much, We would talk
to you next week. Bye Aaron Bybie Bobby. Don't miss
an episode of Laugh and Learn. Listen and subscribe on
the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio, app or wherever you
get your podcasts. Laugh and Learn Podcast is a production
(56:07):
of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Our ejective
producer is Tiffany Hattish. Our theme music is by the
one and only Chrissy Payne. Thank you guys, this is
Flaming Row. Don't forget to laugh, Listen and learn.
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