May 20, 2024 • 49 mins
Shannen opens up like never before as she takes on more listener questions.From the possibility of a Charmed reboot, to how she REALLY felt about the Brenda/Kelly/Dylan love triangle, to what she calls the hardest part of doing the podcast. Plus, she sets the record straight about something a 90210 cast member wrote in their memoir.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Let's be clear with Shannon Dorty.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, hi, everybody, welcome to another episode. Let's be
clear with Shannon Doherty. This is our second Q and A.
I kind of love these because they're just so interesting
what you guys want to ask, and it's not stuff
that I would have thought to address. So now I'm
going to let's get to this question.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Holly Murray.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Combs announced that all the cast members are ready for
the reunion of Charmed. The only problem is the rights
to the series, which they don't have right now.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Is this true?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yes, So the way that it works is us as actors,
unless we wrote the show, created it, produced it, we
have no rights to it. I believe it's CBS who
owns the show. So the only person or the only
company that can make a reunion happen is CBS. So
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if you guys really want one, then you have to
barred their Instagram, their Facebook, right mail.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I don't really know.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I don't even know how to do any of that,
but that's the only way. You know, do petitions and
send them in. That's pretty much the only way that
it would happen, and it would have to happen pretty
quickly unless you want to see all of us as Grandma's. Okay,
what is your most memorable moment, both professionally and personally
(01:28):
and would you have done anything differently? Most memorable moment?
You know, I have so many amazing memories with my
family and particularly with my dad growing up that and
because he's no longer with me, I couldn't name just
one at all, because every single one of them is
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incredibly precious to me. Personally, I think probably working with
Michael Landon was one of the most amazing professional moments
that I had because he was so kind, so nice,
such a good man. I learned a lot from him,
so he was Yeah, he was amazing, absolutely amazing. I
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I've gotten to work with a lot of fantastic actors
and also with friends like James Glenbressak, Like, those are
very memorable moments that we've had. What do you value
most in others and what do you wish you can
improve in yourself? Honesty, honesty, and loyalty is what I
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value the most in others, even over a sense of humor,
which is incredibly important to me. If you're an honest person,
if you're loyal, I am going to forever be by
your side, and if you're not, you're not going to
be by my side. What do you wish you could
improve in yourself? Probably my directness. I wish I could
(02:58):
soften my edges a little bit. I think that I
was raised to be very direct and no bullshit, and
because of that, I can come across harsh and abrasive.
And I mean, I'll tell you guys, I did it
(03:19):
five minutes before I started filming this podcast because Brian,
my wonderful engineer, couldn't hear me on the mic and
I've been rushing today and we were, you know, running late,
and so he was like, is the mic plugged in?
I'm like yes, He's like, it's not really plugged in
because I can't hear you. And I was like, here's
the plug. It doesn't plug into the damn computer. And
(03:40):
then I found the thing and I was like, oh God.
So I think I had to soften my edges and
not be so direct sometimes maybe and more patients. I
need a lot more patience. I find that, particularly lately,
(04:02):
I don't have as much patience as I have had,
and it's probably because of the protocol that I'm currently
on and I struggle with pain a lot currently, which
we'll get into in another episode coming very soon. All Right,
what's your favorite Charmed episode and if you could play
(04:24):
any other Charmed character, who would it be and why?
My favorite Charmed episode is the Western because I got
to ride horses and I love horses. I'm obsessed with horses.
And I directed it and I thought it was one
of my better episodes.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
The whole thing, just the script felt cool to me,
the clothes were cool, the visuals, my DP did an
amazing job. I just loved that episode. I also loved
my last episode because I directed it. But it wasn't
because I died, that's definitely a reason to hate it,
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but because I thought the acting was on point. Out
of every single cast member, everybody was fantastic in that episode.
As an actress, how does it feel when you know
the screenplay of the series, show, or movie you'll be
a part of, is if not stupid or at least senseless.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh that means.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
That there's something I did in my career that you
felt was senseless. The person asking this question, I mean,
what I'll tell you is if I did something senseless,
either A I needed the money, or B I had
no control over the episode. So if I had no control,
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that means that I was, you know, on a series
and there was a really stupid episode or something, and
and back then, you know, I didn't have that much control.
But if it was not on a TV show and
I did something sinceless, I promise you it was for
the money, yeah, you know, I mean I helped support
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a family. So there were a lot of jobs that
I took, not a lot, but a few that I
took that was strictly for the paycheck. And I don't
necessarily regret those because being able to help support.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
My family and my dad when.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
He was so sick is really important to me and
something I'm very proud that I was able to do
for him, and for my mom and for my brother.
You've been traveling all over doing various comic con appearances,
and many of us have traveled a great distance to
meet you in parentheses, and while worth it, many of
us will walk away from this experience having lived an
(06:50):
absolute bucket list moment. What is that you take away
from these experiences and what have been some highlights for you?
I think, honestly, for me, the it shocks me every
single time I do a comic con. It shocks me
that anybody cares enough to meet me. I do not
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think I'm that special. I don't think that I'm somebody
that should be on anybody's bucket list. I think that
probably the only thing that truly makes me special is
cancer and being able to reach people and help people.
By the way, I deeply appreciate if I'm on anybody's
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bucket list, that's pretty amazing and it's such an ego
boost and super flattering. But I just I don't know.
I maybe I'm just a very insecure person. So I'm
not quite sure right anybody cares about me at the
end of the day. But those EXPERI chiances make me
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believe in that short weekend that maybe I am special
for more than just having cancer. Maybe it's cancer and
the acting. Maybe it's all of it combined. And what
really touches me is when people share with me their
own journeys and their journeys that have been not so
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easy and rough, and whether it's that we got somebody
through a very rough childhood watching Charmed and how much
that helped them, or whether I helped a daughter go
through cancer with her mom, or a husband go through
or a wife go through it. Those moments mean the
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absolute most to me. And honestly, walking out on that
stage when we do the Q and a's and everybody
at the comic con just of plouding, it's like, for
one second, you feel like a rock star. You feel
just so good and good about yourself in that brief moment.
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So my experience always as I walk away, going wow,
that was super cool, and that I have like the
best most loyal fans anybody could ever ask for, and
I feel extremely blessed. So those are my highlights, and
that's my takeaway is just you guys. My takeaway is
(09:36):
you guys, right hey, lifelong fan here. My question is,
I really loved the movie Friends till the end, but
it reminded me of the Brende slash Laura storyline from
season four of Beverly Hills nine oh two zero. I
just want to hear thoughts on this. You know, I
had never thought of that. I had never thought of
(09:56):
like the comparison, But you're right, You're one hundred percent
right there is yeah, because Laura ended up being crazy too.
And Jennifer who played sort of my Friend slash Rival
at the end she ended up being crazy as well,
(10:20):
so they are similar. The cool thing about Friend Cilienne
was that I got to sing and I can still
like google it and hear the tracks that I put down.
Thought I just sounded like I'm trying to be a
recording artist with tracks put down. But anyway, it was
(10:41):
an amazing experience. I loved every single second of doing
that movie. I know your biggest source of inspiration is
your mom, but if not, is there an actor actress
who has inspired you? Okay, well, my biggest source of inspiration, yes,
is my mother, but it's also my father, and that is,
in fact, my two biggest sources beyond an actor and actress.
(11:06):
Like I would never swap my mom and my dad
as my inspirations for anybody else, but actors are actresses.
I mean I was heavily influenced by Catherine Hepburn and
Bert Lancaster and Henry Fonda growing up, and then that
sort of went into you know, Robert de Niro and
(11:29):
Al Pacino, heavily influenced by the director Martin Scorsese, Joe Wright,
Quentin Tarantino, Steven Soderberg. I was you know, greatly inspired
by my most serious boyfriend, which was Rob Weiss, his
dedication to work, his writing, all of it. So I've
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had a lot of inspirations. As far as more female actresses,
I mean, obviously, I think Nicole Kimman is amazing. I've
probably been the most inspired by Michelle Pfeiffer, and I
just find her to be remarkable in every way, shape
and form. I mean, yes, she's a stunning woman. But
(12:13):
if you view her body of work from Scarface to
the Fabulous Baker Boys to Tequila Sunrise, you know, to uh,
I mean to everything, like the span is ridiculous. She
just she she changes and I don't see any effort
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in the change, which is really stunning. So she's a
very very very very big inspiration to me. And as
far as like a much younger generation, there's god, there's
so many young kids nowadays that are like fantastic, really
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really really fantastic. But those are my those are my
main sources, right there. Hi, And will you have Rose
mcgallan as a guest on your podcast? I yes, that's
one hundred percent positive. Rose and I get along really well,
We adore each other, and I really like respect her
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her foundation, Like I don't mean foundation like a you know,
charity foundation, I mean like her foundation in herself. I
sort of view our bodies as like we sit in
a foundation. It's basically how we were raised. Our morals,
our beliefs, everything like that. That's our foundation. And uh,
and I admire hers. I think that. I also admire
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the fact that her you know, her book Brave aptly
titled Brave, she she went against a lot of people
and suffered for it. And I admire her bravery also
her wit. She's very, very, very witty. When you did Charmed,
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how did the nine to two and zero cast rate act?
I have no idea how they were acted? Were they
shocked that you were working with spelling? Again, I have
no idea. I don't even know the timing. I don't
know if nine O two was already canceled. I don't
know who had already left nine O two and Oh,
I don't know. Like you guys could probably educate me
if there was like a lap over, but I don't know.
Once I was done with nine O two and Oh,
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I did not sort of look back in that direction.
You know, when you get fired from something, you sort
of tried to move on because it's hard. How much
of yourself do you think Brenda and yourself are similar?
I would say that we were more similar in the
beginning because I always felt like a fish out of
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water as well and a little bit naive. But I
think as time went on, and I can't say this
for sure, right, but perhaps some of the writers and
perhaps one of the producers look at my outside persona.
(15:02):
That was a lot of lies and bad you know,
bad journalism. You can't call it journalism. It's just trash
writing people trying to make a book at the expense
of somebody else, like the National Inquirer, Star Magazine and
all of those. They made up a lot of lies.
And I think that some people that I worked with
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correlated myself and those lies together and wrote them into Brenda.
And the more angsty Brenda got, the more unhappy I
got with her. And also when the whole you know, Dylan, Brenda,
Kelly trying what happened, there was like nothing similar because
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Brenda eventually forgave Kelly. And I can tell you that
if one of my friends cheated with somebody that I
absolutely loved, there would be no forgiveness. I would know
ever speak to them again, because I'm a pretty resolute
person about loyalty and about boundaries and how you treat
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another human being, so we're not very similar. We'd love
to hear stories about Luke and Shannon's friendship over the years.
You know, it's changed a lot, right, So it like
like true friends, true brother and sister, true boyfriend, girlfriend,
truex ex's relationships go in waves, and Luke and I
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definitely had our waves. There were moments that we got
along so well, moments that we fought, then we would
make up, then we would fight, then we would make up.
A lot of that was just when we were working
together on the set. I think once we stopped working
together on the set and we matured a little bit,
our friendship just grew and grew and grew and got
a lot stronger, and there was a deeper appreciation for
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one another.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Somebody told me that the nine on two O cast
minus me did a convention, a con and that in
a Q and A Luke said something to the effect of,
you know, none of us would be here without Shannon,
And if that is true, I've not looked it up
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because probably I just want to believe it's true. But
that kind of sums up like our relationship now or
what it was. What it ended once he passed away
was a deeper appreciation for one another and what we
brought to each other's careers and to our lives. Will
(17:50):
you ever sing the songs you're saying on friends, Tilly?
And if somebody pays me a lot of money, sure, yeah,
I've probably also can't like drink ginger ail. I'll have
to get you know, I have like nodules in my
vocal cords, So even for that, I was having to
get steroids shots to get those nodules down.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Have you ever done theater? And if not, would you I?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
When I was very young I did like local theater,
and then at the Burbank Playhouse they did a production
of a play called The Mound Builders. And then for
whatever reason, I guess, I became very, very very self conscious.
So and I think it definitely happened during nn Tuna
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where I just felt so judged and misunderstood, sometimes rightfully
so right Sometimes I put out a bad message and
I didn't behave or whatever. So I take full responsibility,
not full. I take some responsibility for some of it.
But it made me so self conscious that I have
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turned down some really good plays because I think it's
easier to be in your TV or on your screen
as opposed to not getting a laugh in real time
if you're doing a play that's comedy, or just glancing
out and seeing that somebody is not happy with your performance,
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it's so real and it's so palpable how the audience
is responding to you in a play. I'm not quite
sure I could handle it. I think I'm I think
I'm too fragile for it now, and my days of
challenging myself to that degree, I'm just I don't know.
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I'm not sure if I have it in me anymore.
I like to challenge myself, but it's in a lot
of other areas in my life. I don't think I
want to be judged anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Period.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Doing this podcast has become it's a blessing and a curse.
There's a lot of it that I love, and there's
a lot lately that I don't love. The part that
I don't love is, you know, mean comments or I'm
not dishing enough dirt for certain people. They you know
(20:23):
I have said, well, it's called let's be clear, and
you're not being clear because you're not naming names.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Let me just remind you, let's be clear. Is about me.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
It's about my journey. It's about me telling my truth.
My truth I don't I don't always have to throw
somebody under the bus in order to tell my truth.
My main objective of doing this podcast, and I know
I'm going way off of what the question was doing
the podcast is in fact a diary. It is a
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diary of the past, the present, and the future.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
It is a.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Version of a memoir. I am not a person who
will ever do a scandalous tell all memoir. I've been
offered a ton of money, a ton for years and
years and years. I have refused to do it. If
something is incredibly obvious and somebody else has called me out,
sure I can then bring up their name, because they've
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already fired first shot. If somebody got me fired, sure
I'm going to have that conversation. But if I see
that somebody's changed, or or if I don't see the
benefit to either person, or if I feel it's nothing
but dr and the person and I didn't even get
a chance to clean it up, I don't know. I
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feel like there is a line that you have to
draw in the sand of integrity and pleasing certain people
who are listening to your podcast. And I will always
choose integrity over somebody listening to my podcast, because integrity
wins every time. So I don't know why I went
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on that. I'm so sorry you guys. Oh, I was
talking about judgment. So yeah, no, theater, probably not. I'm
in a place in my life where if I'm going
to work in acting ever again, then it's got to
be with people that I really love and respect. And
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this podcast will continue until I feel too judged, and
then I will stop it because I'm you know, I've
judged myself enough in my life and found myself guilty
far too many times, and punish myself far too many
times and continue to make bad choices. Because I was
punishing myself, I would beat myself so up so much
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that I had, you know, lack of self esteem, lack
of a lot of things. So I and I've worked
on myself quite a bit, and now with cancer, I
just don't think that I can handle it.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
What's your favorite quote of all time? Gosh, now that
I'm on this, Botto, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
actually quote it correctly, but I can do all things
through Christ, who strengthen with me.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
And it's from the Bible. Favorite books of all time.
There's too many. There's too many, And there's one that
I like adore right now, but I'm trying to get
to the rights to it, so I can't say what
it is. I have a really like vast range of
books that I like. I like. I love books about history.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I love learning about the past because I feel like
the past always comes into our present and helps shape
our future to some degree.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
So I love books like that. But I also love,
you know, just.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Complete fiction that takes me into a completely different world
in a different space. And sometimes I'll even read a
ya novel just because they're fun and they're easy. It
just depends on my mood. Who makes you laugh the
best and hardest? From the belly h This is a
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hard one for me because some of my friends are
getting it very upset hearing that it's not them. My
friend Julie makes me laugh really, really, really hard. We
were just on vacation together and I laughed until I
fell asleep, Like it was a problem. I laughed so
(24:39):
hard that I came back from vacation with ABS because
I was laughing that hard. My other friend Amrie has
always made me laugh, and Chris and I we just
we find moments that nobody else would find funny and
we laugh hysterically. So and you know what, my dog
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makes me laugh.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I love laughing. And I'm really fortunate to have the
people in my life that I have now because they
do make me laugh. And I think that they all
realize the importance of laughter for me because so many
other things are hard that if they can make me laugh,
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if I can make them laugh, if we have those moments,
they're so special and something to be really valued. Would
you voice Prue in a Charmed animated series? Absolutely? I
love Charmed, I love Prue, I love our audience, I
love our fans, So of course I would absolutely in
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a heartbeat. Can you share a special memory from working
girls just want to have fun? Was it as fun
to film as it looked on screen?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
So?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I have a really embarrassing moment that still to this
day is an embarrassing moment for me as an actor,
which was that moment where my character who I can't
remember her name Jonathan Silverman was playing my brother's friend
who my character had a crush on, and I think
he called me a punker, said I looked punk or something,
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and I had to show excitement, and even as a
little girl, I was never somebody who was very girly
and showed excitement in a very girly or demonstrative way.
And so I did a couple of takes and the
director wanted me to be more excited and of a
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girl that age with a crush, how she would react
fair fantastic note he was right, But I was so
confused on how to do that because it was so
outside of my own personality and I was not a
girl who had experienced a crush yet. So it was
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really digging from nowhere essentially to come up with an
appropriate reaction that would make everybody happy with my performance.
So I think sarcastically because I didn't really want to
do any more takes. I jumped up and down and
in circles and squealed. And I'm not somebody who ever
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is a squealer like that, but I actually squealed and
jumped in a circle. If you watch it, you'll note
the scene it's It's at the dance off. When I
watched that years and years later, because I don't like
watching anything that I am in, but people kept on
talking about girls just want to have fun, I thought, huh,
(27:50):
should probably watch it. People really liked it. I cringe
when that scene came on. Cringe. My face turned red.
I wondered how I could buy up every DVD. How
I could because that's probably how long ago it was
that I watched it. I was humiliated and embarrassed by
my performance, and I deeply apologized to the director Chuck
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that I had that performance. It was really bad. But
that's my most memorable moment, just because it was awful.
And also working with Sarah Jessica Parker and Helen Hunt,
who seemed to me like the absolute coolest girls in
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the world, and they were cool. They were wonderful to
work with. In season three of Charmed, we saw the
show get darker and add more action. Was this something
you fought for and had influence over or suggested? Yeah,
I think I definitely had a hand in the direction
of Charmed. It could either go very light and silly
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at times, or it could go very emotional and deep
and intellectual and dark, which has always been my preference. Yes,
I think you can certainly afford to lighten the mood
sometimes with some silliness, but I've always been more of
a more serious human being, so for me, it was
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more attractive to do episodes that were a little bit darker.
But also because I didn't understand why, we just ended
up getting used to these crazy demons in front of us,
and sometimes would make jokes like, this is serious business.
We need to kick their asses, and we don't know
how strong they are, so let's be a little bit serious.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So I think I did. But also also I.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Just think our writers were really good and they helped
take it into that direction, and our directors certainly played
a part with how they directed us and got us
in to those moments. And then you add Rick, our
DP and how he lit everything.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
So it was a collective.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Effort in taking the show in that direction while I
was on it. What was your least favorite storyline on nine?
Oh too and Oh definitely the cheating. Definitely, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
The cheating. The Dylan cheating on Brenda with her best friend.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I still to this day can't stand it. I think
I don't know what friend does that to another friend.
I literally cannot get over that. And I don't really
like cheaters, So there's that as well. Would you ever
do a guest spot on any TV shows currently on Airon?
(30:44):
What TV shows would you like them to be? Ooh, well,
my number one choice would have been Succession, but it's
now done. But oh my goodness. So on the drama side,
there's a new show called The Veil with Elizabeth Moss
and I am obsessed with it. I would love to
guest star on that show. As far as lighter comedy,
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I of course would still love to be on Sex
and the City, and just like that, they're sort of
a new name, just because I was obsessed with that
show and I still kind of am. I watch it
when I'm depressed or whatever, and it makes me a
little bit happier. How about a TV show with you
and Jason Priestley The wash Twins? Aha, Patty uh I,
(31:35):
he's on a TV show. I don't know what would
we do as the wash Twins. There's something about Brenda
I never want to play again now to no question,
ignoring the reboot CW series, do you think that Brendan
Dylan wound up together absolutely. I do think that they
wound up together. I think it was more than just
about first love. I think for them it was a
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true soul connection and that never went away. When you're
that young, you can make mistakes or think that you
should venture out, like Dylan did with other women or
with men. But I think as you grow older, you
look back on certain relationships and think, wow, I wish
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I was still with that person, or I wish I
had met them later in life when I was ready
for that kind of relationship. And I feel that with
Brenda going off to London and getting her own identity
right away from her twin, away from her parents, away
from Beverly Hills, and doing something that.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
She loved, theater, I feel.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
That that probably gave her a confidence and a maturity
that she was lacking. And I do feel that Dylan
and her would have run into each other, would have
seen each other or something, and that that spark would
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still be there, but they would be in different places
in their life where they could handle each other, and
that there wasn't There was no more drama, It was
just about this soul connection. So yeah, I do think
that they would be together. What is a skill or
talent you have that fans probably don't know about. I'm
a really good cook. I'm a really, really really good cook.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
And I'm a really good photographer.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
That photo that's right back there is a wild horse
at a sanctuary called Return to Freedom, and I took
that photo. I have six more that are scattered around
that I took. So I'm a very good photographer and
I'm a really good chef. So those are my secret talents.
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Was there a role that you really wanted didn't get
and then when you saw the show or movie you said, phew,
I'm glad I didn't get it. No, the roles that
I really wanted, I saw them and I was like,
damn it. I really wish I had gotten that role.
But the person that they chose was better than me
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for that role. I would like her to talk about
her Native American heritage and have it shaped her as
a person. Yeah, and thank you for that question. A
lot of people aren't aware that I'm partially Native American.
I am Irish and Native American I have I'm a
(34:39):
fairly decent percentage of Native American and it does impact me.
It impacts me because I feel like Native American Indians
are often overlooked, often, if not always, overlooked, and that
that that is a big concern for me and something
(35:03):
that I've diligently, behind the scenes investigated and looked into
and tried to figure out how to help. I think
there's I think I definitely get some personality from my ancestors.
And I believe that this is going to sound super cooky.
(35:23):
I believe that my Native American ancestors protect me quite
a bit. They protect my home, they protect my house,
they protect me, and I'm and in those senses, I
am deeply, deeply, deeply connected to it. So Jason was
(35:44):
already on your podcast, and I really wanted for you
all to clarify the comment he made about you in
his memoir when you went to visit you on the
side of Charmed and you made the comment of it's
either Alyssa or me, What do you have to say
about that? I never said that, so I remember him
being on the set. I certainly never said that. I
(36:06):
did not have the the I probably had the power,
but I didn't have There was no reason for me
to say it, like I didn't really know her.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I had never worked with her.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I never experienced her, and my concern was always what
is best for the show, and Alyssa had a large, large,
large fan base. I wanted the show to be successful.
So the bigger star my co star is, the more
successful the show is going to be. So I don't
(36:38):
really know where that came from. Jason and I could,
you know, debate this all day long, probably, but I'm
not a person who says stuff like that, and certainly
not to Jason, because there's no reason for me to
say something like that to him. I'm It's just it
(36:59):
would be over sharing with someone that you're not close with.
And he, meanwhile, was very close with Aaron Spelling, so
me saying it to him would put me in a
bad position with Aaron Spelling, and because he would obviously
go and probably tell Aaron and not And by the way,
I love Jason, but this is just you know, facts.
So I did not say that. Sorry, sorry, not sorry, right,
(37:26):
And I think there was was that the question that
I saw and I was like, Oh, nobody's gonna breate
that down for me to answer because they're gonna think
it's too controversial, Like there's really no controversy.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I just didn't say it. Period.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I didn't say it. Maybe somebody else said it, but
I did not say it. How would you want Prue
to return? If Charmed ever got a proper reunion, Charmed
(38:03):
fans dream for Proun Paige to meet. I would love
Prune Paige to meet. I think Prue would be the
strongest elder where she could be with the sisters, be physical,
be there. I and I think that her page would
(38:25):
just form like an instant rapport. I like to think
that Pru has been watching over them this entire time. Anyway,
how is your relationship with Jenny Garth?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
It's good, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I see her at conventions and we talk and you know,
like we laugh. I mean those conventions. We work really hard,
but we're all good. We're you know, we were Jenny
and I were young, and I don't there are things
that perhaps I would have done different back then, way
(38:59):
back then. But I don't really particularly hold any grudges
against anyone from that show. I just think that we
all were experiencing something for the very first time, and
when you are experiencing something for the first time, you
have to allow, if to give an allowance for mistakes
and sometimes poor judgment on my part.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Maybe I'm theirs. I don't really know.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
But I think that we're all good now, and I mean,
I hope we are, so I would say our relationship
is good. What is your favorite Brendan Dylan moment slash episode?
It's when we went to Gosh, you guys on this show?
Did we go to Rosa, Rita? Or did we go
(39:44):
to Baja? I can't remember which place it was, but
I loved, loved that episode. I think Luke and I
had an amazing time. We were sort of isolated with
our crew but away from the rest of the cast
shooting that. And there was that scene where you know,
(40:09):
Dylan started spinning Brenda around and we were dancing, and
Luke and I had such a fun time shooting all
of that that I will forever ever hold that as
one of my favorite memories of nine period. What scene
are you the most proud of from nine and Charmed
(40:31):
n No, I'm not sure because it's been so long
since I watched it, but probably Maggie playing Maggie the
cat and doing those lines Tennessee Williams. It's not easy
to do, and I think that actually having to like
perform even a very small part of that was something
(40:51):
that I'm proud of and Charmed, So obviously I'm most
proud of two of the episodes I directed, not all
of them, but two of them. But as far as
the scene goes, But what was it? Was it the
second season that Andy died, you guys, but it was
when Prue was dealing with the aftermath of his death.
(41:17):
I was dealing with a lot of tension on the
set and it came out in my performance. But it's
probably to date one of my best performances because it
just was raw and you could see that Prue was raw, anguish,
(41:37):
and those tears and those emotions and the voice cracking
was like me literally just feeling so ostracized and alone
and lonely that it came out in the performance. And
I'm very proud that I was able to channel everything
that I felt in real life that is incredibly destructive
(42:01):
to my mental health, but that I was able to
channel that into good which was my performance. So probably
the most proud of that scene and doing any of
my stunts.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Because guys, that stuff is hard.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Which goes what was the hardest scene to film and
Charmed stn't work and that scene that I just mentioned
my absolute favorite song.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Oh that's so hard. That is so hard.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I guess I would have to say Neil Diamonds Forever
and Blue Jeans because it was my dad's and I
song and it just reminds me of him. Outside of
that song, I'm a very very very big You Two fan,
like the largest You Two fan, and.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
I find.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
All of their songs, all of their albums to be
incredibly inspirational and they make me think and want to
do more in all aspects of my life. So any
song by You two really, and it was such a
deep respect for musicians like pink Ough. I'm her voice,
(43:17):
her lyrics, her everything. She's unbelievable. Do you regret not
coming back for the final Charmed No. I regret it
in one sense. I regret it for the fans, but
I don't regret it for me because I was so
incredibly wrecked from getting fired that I think, even years
(43:43):
and years and years later, I had I walked on
that set, and I think it just would have stirred
everything back up for me, and it had questioned me
all over again. Please tell us about the support you
got from the male producers Brad Kern and Charles Rosen.
I do feel they both are what responsible one for
(44:03):
the lack of support from both shows. Uh yeah, yeah,
one hundred percent lack of support, particularly from Charles Rosen.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
You know, to each their own.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
But I won't say anything mean about him except that
he was not supportive.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Uh. And Brad. You know, Brad's an interesting one for me.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Because I I didn't struggle with Brad as some others did.
I and I and I didn't have any like inappropriate
moments with Brad. I I felt like Brad was listening
to me, and I was listening to Brad. I think
(44:47):
later you find out that you know, it was all
pretend and he wasn't listening, but then later apologize for
that in a letter. And yes, I know you guys
have said, can you read the letter? I'm getting there.
Some of this is very hard, because you know, when
you've buried it for so long or packed it in
(45:10):
like a foul cabinet in my brain and locked the
foul cabinet and hidden the key from myself, to dig
for the key again and unlock that and start talking
about it again can be emotionally draining. And I think
sometimes some things will take me a little bit longer
(45:31):
to get to, but I will. Is there anywhere you
would like to go and visit that you haven't yet
and what would be your bucket list of things to do?
Crazy or low key places to go or people to meet? Ah, Tanzania, Botswana, Vietnam, Thailand. God,
(45:57):
there's so many places I want to go that I
haven't been yet, and there are so many places that
I have been that I want to go back, and
those are all of my bucket list I really wanted
to really really really want to do. There is a
safari that you can do in Tanzania and it's all
on horseback, and I've talked to my girlfriend Julie about
(46:19):
doing it with me, So that's that's definitely something that
I'm going to do before I die, because that's a
I mean, first of all, it's a crazy idea to
do a safari on horseback because I'm pretty sure the
lions run faster than the horses, so it's a little crazy.
But I love animals so much, and I know that
(46:40):
when I went to South Africa and I did a safari,
it changed my life. Not only because of the safari
and the respect for animals that I've always had, but
that just heightened it.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
But seeing the people.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
So I went to South Africa and I went to Mozambique,
and I remember in Mozambique, I came across in like
the village that the locals lived in, a fifteen year old.
We were doing like a you know, ride through it
and a car ride through it, open jeepear ride. And
the fifteen year old kept talking about how badly he
(47:15):
wanted to go to college. And I said, why do
you want to go to college? And he said, I
want to study medicine. I want to become a doctor.
And I was like, well, that's amazing. Why do you
want to become a doctor and he said because I
want to come back here and heal my village. And
it just I broke down in tears. Like the purity
(47:36):
of this boy and what he wanted to do to
help his family and to help the people in his
village was unbelievable. That place touched my heart and rocked
my soul unlike any other place I've ever been, So
anywhere in Africa, I want to go.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
As a director, do you have a say on how
characters look like? For example, on your final Charmed episode
shown for the first time, but looks completely different from
other appearances.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
How does that work? Okay? I did. Yes.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
You would have to ask the other directors if they
had an influence. My influence was I didn't pick out
people's wardrobe, but I based everything the look of the show.
The last episode that I was in and directed, I
based it on a salvad Or Dolly painting. So I
wanted the whole color scheme to be from this painting,
(48:30):
and that meant that each character had to sort of
stay in that color scheme. The lighting had to be
within that color scheme, and the source had to be
a certain look. It was all about a salvad Or
Dolly painting for me. All right, that is definitely all
I have time for. But thank you guys so much
(48:53):
for listening to another episode of Let's Be Clear with
Shannon Dherty. Get ready, you, guys, I have a couple
of great episodes coming up about healing, about how I
have been struggling for the last month with some depression,
what I'm doing to combat it, and also some fun episodes.
(49:17):
So I hope you all have a great week and
that you enjoyed this week's podcast.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Ye bye,
This is Let's be clear with Shannon Dorty.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, hi, everybody, welcome to another episode. Let's be
clear with Shannon Doherty. This is our second Q and A.
I kind of love these because they're just so interesting
what you guys want to ask, and it's not stuff
that I would have thought to address. So now I'm
going to let's get to this question.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Holly Murray.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Combs announced that all the cast members are ready for
the reunion of Charmed. The only problem is the rights
to the series, which they don't have right now.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Is this true?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yes, So the way that it works is us as actors,
unless we wrote the show, created it, produced it, we
have no rights to it. I believe it's CBS who
owns the show. So the only person or the only
company that can make a reunion happen is CBS. So
(00:58):
if you guys really want one, then you have to
barred their Instagram, their Facebook, right mail.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I don't really know.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I don't even know how to do any of that,
but that's the only way. You know, do petitions and
send them in. That's pretty much the only way that
it would happen, and it would have to happen pretty
quickly unless you want to see all of us as Grandma's. Okay,
what is your most memorable moment, both professionally and personally
(01:28):
and would you have done anything differently? Most memorable moment?
You know, I have so many amazing memories with my
family and particularly with my dad growing up that and
because he's no longer with me, I couldn't name just
one at all, because every single one of them is
(01:52):
incredibly precious to me. Personally, I think probably working with
Michael Landon was one of the most amazing professional moments
that I had because he was so kind, so nice,
such a good man. I learned a lot from him,
so he was Yeah, he was amazing, absolutely amazing. I
(02:14):
I've gotten to work with a lot of fantastic actors
and also with friends like James Glenbressak, Like, those are
very memorable moments that we've had. What do you value
most in others and what do you wish you can
improve in yourself? Honesty, honesty, and loyalty is what I
(02:35):
value the most in others, even over a sense of humor,
which is incredibly important to me. If you're an honest person,
if you're loyal, I am going to forever be by
your side, and if you're not, you're not going to
be by my side. What do you wish you could
improve in yourself? Probably my directness. I wish I could
(02:58):
soften my edges a little bit. I think that I
was raised to be very direct and no bullshit, and
because of that, I can come across harsh and abrasive.
And I mean, I'll tell you guys, I did it
(03:19):
five minutes before I started filming this podcast because Brian,
my wonderful engineer, couldn't hear me on the mic and
I've been rushing today and we were, you know, running late,
and so he was like, is the mic plugged in?
I'm like yes, He's like, it's not really plugged in
because I can't hear you. And I was like, here's
the plug. It doesn't plug into the damn computer. And
(03:40):
then I found the thing and I was like, oh God.
So I think I had to soften my edges and
not be so direct sometimes maybe and more patients. I
need a lot more patience. I find that, particularly lately,
(04:02):
I don't have as much patience as I have had,
and it's probably because of the protocol that I'm currently
on and I struggle with pain a lot currently, which
we'll get into in another episode coming very soon. All Right,
what's your favorite Charmed episode and if you could play
(04:24):
any other Charmed character, who would it be and why?
My favorite Charmed episode is the Western because I got
to ride horses and I love horses. I'm obsessed with horses.
And I directed it and I thought it was one
of my better episodes.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
The whole thing, just the script felt cool to me,
the clothes were cool, the visuals, my DP did an
amazing job. I just loved that episode. I also loved
my last episode because I directed it. But it wasn't
because I died, that's definitely a reason to hate it,
(05:03):
but because I thought the acting was on point. Out
of every single cast member, everybody was fantastic in that episode.
As an actress, how does it feel when you know
the screenplay of the series, show, or movie you'll be
a part of, is if not stupid or at least senseless.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh that means.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
That there's something I did in my career that you
felt was senseless. The person asking this question, I mean,
what I'll tell you is if I did something senseless,
either A I needed the money, or B I had
no control over the episode. So if I had no control,
(05:47):
that means that I was, you know, on a series
and there was a really stupid episode or something, and
and back then, you know, I didn't have that much control.
But if it was not on a TV show and
I did something sinceless, I promise you it was for
the money, yeah, you know, I mean I helped support
(06:12):
a family. So there were a lot of jobs that
I took, not a lot, but a few that I
took that was strictly for the paycheck. And I don't
necessarily regret those because being able to help support.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
My family and my dad when.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
He was so sick is really important to me and
something I'm very proud that I was able to do
for him, and for my mom and for my brother.
You've been traveling all over doing various comic con appearances,
and many of us have traveled a great distance to
meet you in parentheses, and while worth it, many of
us will walk away from this experience having lived an
(06:50):
absolute bucket list moment. What is that you take away
from these experiences and what have been some highlights for you?
I think, honestly, for me, the it shocks me every
single time I do a comic con. It shocks me
that anybody cares enough to meet me. I do not
(07:18):
think I'm that special. I don't think that I'm somebody
that should be on anybody's bucket list. I think that
probably the only thing that truly makes me special is
cancer and being able to reach people and help people.
By the way, I deeply appreciate if I'm on anybody's
(07:39):
bucket list, that's pretty amazing and it's such an ego
boost and super flattering. But I just I don't know.
I maybe I'm just a very insecure person. So I'm
not quite sure right anybody cares about me at the
end of the day. But those EXPERI chiances make me
(08:03):
believe in that short weekend that maybe I am special
for more than just having cancer. Maybe it's cancer and
the acting. Maybe it's all of it combined. And what
really touches me is when people share with me their
own journeys and their journeys that have been not so
(08:27):
easy and rough, and whether it's that we got somebody
through a very rough childhood watching Charmed and how much
that helped them, or whether I helped a daughter go
through cancer with her mom, or a husband go through
or a wife go through it. Those moments mean the
(08:49):
absolute most to me. And honestly, walking out on that
stage when we do the Q and a's and everybody
at the comic con just of plouding, it's like, for
one second, you feel like a rock star. You feel
just so good and good about yourself in that brief moment.
(09:13):
So my experience always as I walk away, going wow,
that was super cool, and that I have like the
best most loyal fans anybody could ever ask for, and
I feel extremely blessed. So those are my highlights, and
that's my takeaway is just you guys. My takeaway is
(09:36):
you guys, right hey, lifelong fan here. My question is,
I really loved the movie Friends till the end, but
it reminded me of the Brende slash Laura storyline from
season four of Beverly Hills nine oh two zero. I
just want to hear thoughts on this. You know, I
had never thought of that. I had never thought of
(09:56):
like the comparison, But you're right, You're one hundred percent
right there is yeah, because Laura ended up being crazy too.
And Jennifer who played sort of my Friend slash Rival
at the end she ended up being crazy as well,
(10:20):
so they are similar. The cool thing about Friend Cilienne
was that I got to sing and I can still
like google it and hear the tracks that I put down.
Thought I just sounded like I'm trying to be a
recording artist with tracks put down. But anyway, it was
(10:41):
an amazing experience. I loved every single second of doing
that movie. I know your biggest source of inspiration is
your mom, but if not, is there an actor actress
who has inspired you? Okay, well, my biggest source of inspiration, yes,
is my mother, but it's also my father, and that is,
in fact, my two biggest sources beyond an actor and actress.
(11:06):
Like I would never swap my mom and my dad
as my inspirations for anybody else, but actors are actresses.
I mean I was heavily influenced by Catherine Hepburn and
Bert Lancaster and Henry Fonda growing up, and then that
sort of went into you know, Robert de Niro and
(11:29):
Al Pacino, heavily influenced by the director Martin Scorsese, Joe Wright,
Quentin Tarantino, Steven Soderberg. I was you know, greatly inspired
by my most serious boyfriend, which was Rob Weiss, his
dedication to work, his writing, all of it. So I've
(11:51):
had a lot of inspirations. As far as more female actresses,
I mean, obviously, I think Nicole Kimman is amazing. I've
probably been the most inspired by Michelle Pfeiffer, and I
just find her to be remarkable in every way, shape
and form. I mean, yes, she's a stunning woman. But
(12:13):
if you view her body of work from Scarface to
the Fabulous Baker Boys to Tequila Sunrise, you know, to uh,
I mean to everything, like the span is ridiculous. She
just she she changes and I don't see any effort
(12:33):
in the change, which is really stunning. So she's a
very very very very big inspiration to me. And as
far as like a much younger generation, there's god, there's
so many young kids nowadays that are like fantastic, really
(12:53):
really really fantastic. But those are my those are my
main sources, right there. Hi, And will you have Rose
mcgallan as a guest on your podcast? I yes, that's
one hundred percent positive. Rose and I get along really well,
We adore each other, and I really like respect her
(13:14):
her foundation, Like I don't mean foundation like a you know,
charity foundation, I mean like her foundation in herself. I
sort of view our bodies as like we sit in
a foundation. It's basically how we were raised. Our morals,
our beliefs, everything like that. That's our foundation. And uh,
and I admire hers. I think that. I also admire
(13:36):
the fact that her you know, her book Brave aptly
titled Brave, she she went against a lot of people
and suffered for it. And I admire her bravery also
her wit. She's very, very, very witty. When you did Charmed,
(13:58):
how did the nine to two and zero cast rate act?
I have no idea how they were acted? Were they
shocked that you were working with spelling? Again, I have
no idea. I don't even know the timing. I don't
know if nine O two was already canceled. I don't
know who had already left nine O two and Oh,
I don't know. Like you guys could probably educate me
if there was like a lap over, but I don't know.
Once I was done with nine O two and Oh,
(14:19):
I did not sort of look back in that direction.
You know, when you get fired from something, you sort
of tried to move on because it's hard. How much
of yourself do you think Brenda and yourself are similar?
I would say that we were more similar in the
beginning because I always felt like a fish out of
(14:40):
water as well and a little bit naive. But I
think as time went on, and I can't say this
for sure, right, but perhaps some of the writers and
perhaps one of the producers look at my outside persona.
(15:02):
That was a lot of lies and bad you know,
bad journalism. You can't call it journalism. It's just trash
writing people trying to make a book at the expense
of somebody else, like the National Inquirer, Star Magazine and
all of those. They made up a lot of lies.
And I think that some people that I worked with
(15:24):
correlated myself and those lies together and wrote them into Brenda.
And the more angsty Brenda got, the more unhappy I
got with her. And also when the whole you know, Dylan, Brenda,
Kelly trying what happened, there was like nothing similar because
(15:47):
Brenda eventually forgave Kelly. And I can tell you that
if one of my friends cheated with somebody that I
absolutely loved, there would be no forgiveness. I would know
ever speak to them again, because I'm a pretty resolute
person about loyalty and about boundaries and how you treat
(16:08):
another human being, so we're not very similar. We'd love
to hear stories about Luke and Shannon's friendship over the years.
You know, it's changed a lot, right, So it like
like true friends, true brother and sister, true boyfriend, girlfriend,
truex ex's relationships go in waves, and Luke and I
(16:32):
definitely had our waves. There were moments that we got
along so well, moments that we fought, then we would
make up, then we would fight, then we would make up.
A lot of that was just when we were working
together on the set. I think once we stopped working
together on the set and we matured a little bit,
our friendship just grew and grew and grew and got
a lot stronger, and there was a deeper appreciation for
(16:56):
one another.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Somebody told me that the nine on two O cast
minus me did a convention, a con and that in
a Q and A Luke said something to the effect of,
you know, none of us would be here without Shannon,
And if that is true, I've not looked it up
(17:18):
because probably I just want to believe it's true. But
that kind of sums up like our relationship now or
what it was. What it ended once he passed away
was a deeper appreciation for one another and what we
brought to each other's careers and to our lives. Will
(17:50):
you ever sing the songs you're saying on friends, Tilly?
And if somebody pays me a lot of money, sure, yeah,
I've probably also can't like drink ginger ail. I'll have
to get you know, I have like nodules in my
vocal cords, So even for that, I was having to
get steroids shots to get those nodules down.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Have you ever done theater? And if not, would you I?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
When I was very young I did like local theater,
and then at the Burbank Playhouse they did a production
of a play called The Mound Builders. And then for
whatever reason, I guess, I became very, very very self conscious.
So and I think it definitely happened during nn Tuna
(18:41):
where I just felt so judged and misunderstood, sometimes rightfully
so right Sometimes I put out a bad message and
I didn't behave or whatever. So I take full responsibility,
not full. I take some responsibility for some of it.
But it made me so self conscious that I have
(19:04):
turned down some really good plays because I think it's
easier to be in your TV or on your screen
as opposed to not getting a laugh in real time
if you're doing a play that's comedy, or just glancing
out and seeing that somebody is not happy with your performance,
(19:25):
it's so real and it's so palpable how the audience
is responding to you in a play. I'm not quite
sure I could handle it. I think I'm I think
I'm too fragile for it now, and my days of
challenging myself to that degree, I'm just I don't know.
(19:48):
I'm not sure if I have it in me anymore.
I like to challenge myself, but it's in a lot
of other areas in my life. I don't think I
want to be judged anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Period.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Doing this podcast has become it's a blessing and a curse.
There's a lot of it that I love, and there's
a lot lately that I don't love. The part that
I don't love is, you know, mean comments or I'm
not dishing enough dirt for certain people. They you know
(20:23):
I have said, well, it's called let's be clear, and
you're not being clear because you're not naming names.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Let me just remind you, let's be clear. Is about me.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
It's about my journey. It's about me telling my truth.
My truth I don't I don't always have to throw
somebody under the bus in order to tell my truth.
My main objective of doing this podcast, and I know
I'm going way off of what the question was doing
the podcast is in fact a diary. It is a
(20:51):
diary of the past, the present, and the future.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
It is a.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Version of a memoir. I am not a person who
will ever do a scandalous tell all memoir. I've been
offered a ton of money, a ton for years and
years and years. I have refused to do it. If
something is incredibly obvious and somebody else has called me out,
sure I can then bring up their name, because they've
(21:17):
already fired first shot. If somebody got me fired, sure
I'm going to have that conversation. But if I see
that somebody's changed, or or if I don't see the
benefit to either person, or if I feel it's nothing
but dr and the person and I didn't even get
a chance to clean it up, I don't know. I
(21:38):
feel like there is a line that you have to
draw in the sand of integrity and pleasing certain people
who are listening to your podcast. And I will always
choose integrity over somebody listening to my podcast, because integrity
wins every time. So I don't know why I went
(21:59):
on that. I'm so sorry you guys. Oh, I was
talking about judgment. So yeah, no, theater, probably not. I'm
in a place in my life where if I'm going
to work in acting ever again, then it's got to
be with people that I really love and respect. And
(22:23):
this podcast will continue until I feel too judged, and
then I will stop it because I'm you know, I've
judged myself enough in my life and found myself guilty
far too many times, and punish myself far too many
times and continue to make bad choices. Because I was
punishing myself, I would beat myself so up so much
(22:45):
that I had, you know, lack of self esteem, lack
of a lot of things. So I and I've worked
on myself quite a bit, and now with cancer, I
just don't think that I can handle it.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
What's your favorite quote of all time? Gosh, now that
I'm on this, Botto, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
actually quote it correctly, but I can do all things
through Christ, who strengthen with me.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
And it's from the Bible. Favorite books of all time.
There's too many. There's too many, And there's one that
I like adore right now, but I'm trying to get
to the rights to it, so I can't say what
it is. I have a really like vast range of
books that I like. I like. I love books about history.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I love learning about the past because I feel like
the past always comes into our present and helps shape
our future to some degree.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
So I love books like that. But I also love,
you know, just.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Complete fiction that takes me into a completely different world
in a different space. And sometimes I'll even read a
ya novel just because they're fun and they're easy. It
just depends on my mood. Who makes you laugh the
best and hardest? From the belly h This is a
(24:16):
hard one for me because some of my friends are
getting it very upset hearing that it's not them. My
friend Julie makes me laugh really, really, really hard. We
were just on vacation together and I laughed until I
fell asleep, Like it was a problem. I laughed so
(24:39):
hard that I came back from vacation with ABS because
I was laughing that hard. My other friend Amrie has
always made me laugh, and Chris and I we just
we find moments that nobody else would find funny and
we laugh hysterically. So and you know what, my dog
(25:02):
makes me laugh.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I love laughing. And I'm really fortunate to have the
people in my life that I have now because they
do make me laugh. And I think that they all
realize the importance of laughter for me because so many
other things are hard that if they can make me laugh,
(25:23):
if I can make them laugh, if we have those moments,
they're so special and something to be really valued. Would
you voice Prue in a Charmed animated series? Absolutely? I
love Charmed, I love Prue, I love our audience, I
love our fans, So of course I would absolutely in
(25:45):
a heartbeat. Can you share a special memory from working
girls just want to have fun? Was it as fun
to film as it looked on screen?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
So?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I have a really embarrassing moment that still to this
day is an embarrassing moment for me as an actor,
which was that moment where my character who I can't
remember her name Jonathan Silverman was playing my brother's friend
who my character had a crush on, and I think
he called me a punker, said I looked punk or something,
(26:17):
and I had to show excitement, and even as a
little girl, I was never somebody who was very girly
and showed excitement in a very girly or demonstrative way.
And so I did a couple of takes and the
director wanted me to be more excited and of a
(26:42):
girl that age with a crush, how she would react
fair fantastic note he was right, But I was so
confused on how to do that because it was so
outside of my own personality and I was not a
girl who had experienced a crush yet. So it was
(27:03):
really digging from nowhere essentially to come up with an
appropriate reaction that would make everybody happy with my performance.
So I think sarcastically because I didn't really want to
do any more takes. I jumped up and down and
in circles and squealed. And I'm not somebody who ever
(27:28):
is a squealer like that, but I actually squealed and
jumped in a circle. If you watch it, you'll note
the scene it's It's at the dance off. When I
watched that years and years later, because I don't like
watching anything that I am in, but people kept on
talking about girls just want to have fun, I thought, huh,
(27:50):
should probably watch it. People really liked it. I cringe
when that scene came on. Cringe. My face turned red.
I wondered how I could buy up every DVD. How
I could because that's probably how long ago it was
that I watched it. I was humiliated and embarrassed by
my performance, and I deeply apologized to the director Chuck
(28:14):
that I had that performance. It was really bad. But
that's my most memorable moment, just because it was awful.
And also working with Sarah Jessica Parker and Helen Hunt,
who seemed to me like the absolute coolest girls in
(28:36):
the world, and they were cool. They were wonderful to
work with. In season three of Charmed, we saw the
show get darker and add more action. Was this something
you fought for and had influence over or suggested? Yeah,
I think I definitely had a hand in the direction
of Charmed. It could either go very light and silly
(28:57):
at times, or it could go very emotional and deep
and intellectual and dark, which has always been my preference. Yes,
I think you can certainly afford to lighten the mood
sometimes with some silliness, but I've always been more of
a more serious human being, so for me, it was
(29:23):
more attractive to do episodes that were a little bit darker.
But also because I didn't understand why, we just ended
up getting used to these crazy demons in front of us,
and sometimes would make jokes like, this is serious business.
We need to kick their asses, and we don't know
how strong they are, so let's be a little bit serious.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So I think I did. But also also I.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Just think our writers were really good and they helped
take it into that direction, and our directors certainly played
a part with how they directed us and got us
in to those moments. And then you add Rick, our
DP and how he lit everything.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
So it was a collective.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Effort in taking the show in that direction while I
was on it. What was your least favorite storyline on nine?
Oh too and Oh definitely the cheating. Definitely, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
The cheating. The Dylan cheating on Brenda with her best friend.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I still to this day can't stand it. I think
I don't know what friend does that to another friend.
I literally cannot get over that. And I don't really
like cheaters, So there's that as well. Would you ever
do a guest spot on any TV shows currently on Airon?
(30:44):
What TV shows would you like them to be? Ooh, well,
my number one choice would have been Succession, but it's
now done. But oh my goodness. So on the drama side,
there's a new show called The Veil with Elizabeth Moss
and I am obsessed with it. I would love to
guest star on that show. As far as lighter comedy,
(31:09):
I of course would still love to be on Sex
and the City, and just like that, they're sort of
a new name, just because I was obsessed with that
show and I still kind of am. I watch it
when I'm depressed or whatever, and it makes me a
little bit happier. How about a TV show with you
and Jason Priestley The wash Twins? Aha, Patty uh I,
(31:35):
he's on a TV show. I don't know what would
we do as the wash Twins. There's something about Brenda
I never want to play again now to no question,
ignoring the reboot CW series, do you think that Brendan
Dylan wound up together absolutely. I do think that they
wound up together. I think it was more than just
about first love. I think for them it was a
(31:58):
true soul connection and that never went away. When you're
that young, you can make mistakes or think that you
should venture out, like Dylan did with other women or
with men. But I think as you grow older, you
look back on certain relationships and think, wow, I wish
(32:22):
I was still with that person, or I wish I
had met them later in life when I was ready
for that kind of relationship. And I feel that with
Brenda going off to London and getting her own identity
right away from her twin, away from her parents, away
from Beverly Hills, and doing something that.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
She loved, theater, I feel.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
That that probably gave her a confidence and a maturity
that she was lacking. And I do feel that Dylan
and her would have run into each other, would have
seen each other or something, and that that spark would
(33:10):
still be there, but they would be in different places
in their life where they could handle each other, and
that there wasn't There was no more drama, It was
just about this soul connection. So yeah, I do think
that they would be together. What is a skill or
talent you have that fans probably don't know about. I'm
a really good cook. I'm a really, really really good cook.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
And I'm a really good photographer.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
That photo that's right back there is a wild horse
at a sanctuary called Return to Freedom, and I took
that photo. I have six more that are scattered around
that I took. So I'm a very good photographer and
I'm a really good chef. So those are my secret talents.
(33:58):
Was there a role that you really wanted didn't get
and then when you saw the show or movie you said, phew,
I'm glad I didn't get it. No, the roles that
I really wanted, I saw them and I was like,
damn it. I really wish I had gotten that role.
But the person that they chose was better than me
(34:18):
for that role. I would like her to talk about
her Native American heritage and have it shaped her as
a person. Yeah, and thank you for that question. A
lot of people aren't aware that I'm partially Native American.
I am Irish and Native American I have I'm a
(34:39):
fairly decent percentage of Native American and it does impact me.
It impacts me because I feel like Native American Indians
are often overlooked, often, if not always, overlooked, and that
that that is a big concern for me and something
(35:03):
that I've diligently, behind the scenes investigated and looked into
and tried to figure out how to help. I think
there's I think I definitely get some personality from my ancestors.
And I believe that this is going to sound super cooky.
(35:23):
I believe that my Native American ancestors protect me quite
a bit. They protect my home, they protect my house,
they protect me, and I'm and in those senses, I
am deeply, deeply, deeply connected to it. So Jason was
(35:44):
already on your podcast, and I really wanted for you
all to clarify the comment he made about you in
his memoir when you went to visit you on the
side of Charmed and you made the comment of it's
either Alyssa or me, What do you have to say
about that? I never said that, so I remember him
being on the set. I certainly never said that. I
(36:06):
did not have the the I probably had the power,
but I didn't have There was no reason for me
to say it, like I didn't really know her.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I had never worked with her.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I never experienced her, and my concern was always what
is best for the show, and Alyssa had a large, large,
large fan base. I wanted the show to be successful.
So the bigger star my co star is, the more
successful the show is going to be. So I don't
(36:38):
really know where that came from. Jason and I could,
you know, debate this all day long, probably, but I'm
not a person who says stuff like that, and certainly
not to Jason, because there's no reason for me to
say something like that to him. I'm It's just it
(36:59):
would be over sharing with someone that you're not close with.
And he, meanwhile, was very close with Aaron Spelling, so
me saying it to him would put me in a
bad position with Aaron Spelling, and because he would obviously
go and probably tell Aaron and not And by the way,
I love Jason, but this is just you know, facts.
So I did not say that. Sorry, sorry, not sorry, right,
(37:26):
And I think there was was that the question that
I saw and I was like, Oh, nobody's gonna breate
that down for me to answer because they're gonna think
it's too controversial, Like there's really no controversy.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I just didn't say it. Period.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I didn't say it. Maybe somebody else said it, but
I did not say it. How would you want Prue
to return? If Charmed ever got a proper reunion, Charmed
(38:03):
fans dream for Proun Paige to meet. I would love
Prune Paige to meet. I think Prue would be the
strongest elder where she could be with the sisters, be physical,
be there. I and I think that her page would
(38:25):
just form like an instant rapport. I like to think
that Pru has been watching over them this entire time. Anyway,
how is your relationship with Jenny Garth?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
It's good, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I see her at conventions and we talk and you know,
like we laugh. I mean those conventions. We work really hard,
but we're all good. We're you know, we were Jenny
and I were young, and I don't there are things
that perhaps I would have done different back then, way
(38:59):
back then. But I don't really particularly hold any grudges
against anyone from that show. I just think that we
all were experiencing something for the very first time, and
when you are experiencing something for the first time, you
have to allow, if to give an allowance for mistakes
and sometimes poor judgment on my part.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Maybe I'm theirs. I don't really know.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
But I think that we're all good now, and I mean,
I hope we are, so I would say our relationship
is good. What is your favorite Brendan Dylan moment slash episode?
It's when we went to Gosh, you guys on this show?
Did we go to Rosa, Rita? Or did we go
(39:44):
to Baja? I can't remember which place it was, but
I loved, loved that episode. I think Luke and I
had an amazing time. We were sort of isolated with
our crew but away from the rest of the cast
shooting that. And there was that scene where you know,
(40:09):
Dylan started spinning Brenda around and we were dancing, and
Luke and I had such a fun time shooting all
of that that I will forever ever hold that as
one of my favorite memories of nine period. What scene
are you the most proud of from nine and Charmed
(40:31):
n No, I'm not sure because it's been so long
since I watched it, but probably Maggie playing Maggie the
cat and doing those lines Tennessee Williams. It's not easy
to do, and I think that actually having to like
perform even a very small part of that was something
(40:51):
that I'm proud of and Charmed, So obviously I'm most
proud of two of the episodes I directed, not all
of them, but two of them. But as far as
the scene goes, But what was it? Was it the
second season that Andy died, you guys, but it was
when Prue was dealing with the aftermath of his death.
(41:17):
I was dealing with a lot of tension on the
set and it came out in my performance. But it's
probably to date one of my best performances because it
just was raw and you could see that Prue was raw, anguish,
(41:37):
and those tears and those emotions and the voice cracking
was like me literally just feeling so ostracized and alone
and lonely that it came out in the performance. And
I'm very proud that I was able to channel everything
that I felt in real life that is incredibly destructive
(42:01):
to my mental health, but that I was able to
channel that into good which was my performance. So probably
the most proud of that scene and doing any of
my stunts.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Because guys, that stuff is hard.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Which goes what was the hardest scene to film and
Charmed stn't work and that scene that I just mentioned
my absolute favorite song.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Oh that's so hard. That is so hard.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I guess I would have to say Neil Diamonds Forever
and Blue Jeans because it was my dad's and I
song and it just reminds me of him. Outside of
that song, I'm a very very very big You Two fan,
like the largest You Two fan, and.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
I find.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
All of their songs, all of their albums to be
incredibly inspirational and they make me think and want to
do more in all aspects of my life. So any
song by You two really, and it was such a
deep respect for musicians like pink Ough. I'm her voice,
(43:17):
her lyrics, her everything. She's unbelievable. Do you regret not
coming back for the final Charmed No. I regret it
in one sense. I regret it for the fans, but
I don't regret it for me because I was so
incredibly wrecked from getting fired that I think, even years
(43:43):
and years and years later, I had I walked on
that set, and I think it just would have stirred
everything back up for me, and it had questioned me
all over again. Please tell us about the support you
got from the male producers Brad Kern and Charles Rosen.
I do feel they both are what responsible one for
(44:03):
the lack of support from both shows. Uh yeah, yeah,
one hundred percent lack of support, particularly from Charles Rosen.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
You know, to each their own.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
But I won't say anything mean about him except that
he was not supportive.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Uh. And Brad. You know, Brad's an interesting one for me.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Because I I didn't struggle with Brad as some others did.
I and I and I didn't have any like inappropriate
moments with Brad. I I felt like Brad was listening
to me, and I was listening to Brad. I think
(44:47):
later you find out that you know, it was all
pretend and he wasn't listening, but then later apologize for
that in a letter. And yes, I know you guys
have said, can you read the letter? I'm getting there.
Some of this is very hard, because you know, when
you've buried it for so long or packed it in
(45:10):
like a foul cabinet in my brain and locked the
foul cabinet and hidden the key from myself, to dig
for the key again and unlock that and start talking
about it again can be emotionally draining. And I think
sometimes some things will take me a little bit longer
(45:31):
to get to, but I will. Is there anywhere you
would like to go and visit that you haven't yet
and what would be your bucket list of things to do?
Crazy or low key places to go or people to meet? Ah, Tanzania, Botswana, Vietnam, Thailand. God,
(45:57):
there's so many places I want to go that I
haven't been yet, and there are so many places that
I have been that I want to go back, and
those are all of my bucket list I really wanted
to really really really want to do. There is a
safari that you can do in Tanzania and it's all
on horseback, and I've talked to my girlfriend Julie about
(46:19):
doing it with me, So that's that's definitely something that
I'm going to do before I die, because that's a
I mean, first of all, it's a crazy idea to
do a safari on horseback because I'm pretty sure the
lions run faster than the horses, so it's a little crazy.
But I love animals so much, and I know that
(46:40):
when I went to South Africa and I did a safari,
it changed my life. Not only because of the safari
and the respect for animals that I've always had, but
that just heightened it.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
But seeing the people.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
So I went to South Africa and I went to Mozambique,
and I remember in Mozambique, I came across in like
the village that the locals lived in, a fifteen year old.
We were doing like a you know, ride through it
and a car ride through it, open jeepear ride. And
the fifteen year old kept talking about how badly he
(47:15):
wanted to go to college. And I said, why do
you want to go to college? And he said, I
want to study medicine. I want to become a doctor.
And I was like, well, that's amazing. Why do you
want to become a doctor and he said because I
want to come back here and heal my village. And
it just I broke down in tears. Like the purity
(47:36):
of this boy and what he wanted to do to
help his family and to help the people in his
village was unbelievable. That place touched my heart and rocked
my soul unlike any other place I've ever been, So
anywhere in Africa, I want to go.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
As a director, do you have a say on how
characters look like? For example, on your final Charmed episode
shown for the first time, but looks completely different from
other appearances.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
How does that work? Okay? I did. Yes.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
You would have to ask the other directors if they
had an influence. My influence was I didn't pick out
people's wardrobe, but I based everything the look of the show.
The last episode that I was in and directed, I
based it on a salvad Or Dolly painting. So I
wanted the whole color scheme to be from this painting,
(48:30):
and that meant that each character had to sort of
stay in that color scheme. The lighting had to be
within that color scheme, and the source had to be
a certain look. It was all about a salvad Or
Dolly painting for me. All right, that is definitely all
I have time for. But thank you guys so much
(48:53):
for listening to another episode of Let's Be Clear with
Shannon Dherty. Get ready, you, guys, I have a couple
of great episodes coming up about healing, about how I
have been struggling for the last month with some depression,
what I'm doing to combat it, and also some fun episodes.
(49:17):
So I hope you all have a great week and
that you enjoyed this week's podcast.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Ye bye,
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