Levels to Funny with KevOnStage

On this episode of Levels to This, Terrika Foster-Brasby and Sheryl Swoopes sit down with comedian and actor Kevin Fredericks—aka KevOnStage. They dive into his comedy journey, from the cracking up his grandma after church to building a multi-platform comedy empire. He's on the Bald Brothers Tour NOW with Tony Baker... and he's also got two shows on the air  (Churchy and The Hospital). There's a lot going on! Even with all that going on, Kev keeps his eye on the W—and he's got Finals predictions!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Levels to This is an iHeart women's sports production in
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hey, what's going on, y'all? It's your girl? Trica Foster Brasby,
What up?

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Y'all?

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Is your girl? Cheryl Swoops?

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (00:24):
And this is Levels to This, the podcast where we
talk about all the levels of the ship that.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Women go through.

Speaker 6 (00:31):
And I hope y'all are ready to crack up because
today's episode is gonna be such a good time that
you're really gonna laugh the whole time.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
But before we get there, how's it going, Cheryl?

Speaker 4 (00:47):
I'm here? How you do? I can't stand.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
You either better than you apparently? Shit, I'm a little
I'm a little jealous. What would would you do this?

Speaker 4 (00:59):
No, listen, listen and don't and don't be yelling.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Don't yell. You're loud right now. Or maybe it's just
I can't take it. No, it's you, it's not me,
it's your listen listen. Let me just let let me
let the people know one thing. But I think they
already know this because we've had this discussion before.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
I don't be outside like that. I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
And for some reason, anytime I go to Vegas, I like,
I don't know, I lose my mind and I go
back to like my twenties when I was.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Kicking in and all the things. Tea. I don't know
about you, but my body don't like recuperate or recover
like it used to bring into some high school friends.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
So I went to the game, went to the ace's
favorite game too, right.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah, And it was Vegas, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
And I'm feeling it today. That's that's it. Vegas was
Vegas in Vegas. I want to say this as much
as I'm like struggling right now, I so absolutely enjoyed myself.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
See, it was.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
A good time. That's what.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
Like, that's the reason why we can't stop doing this
shit because we wake up the next day remembering that
we're not nineteen anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Recovery is not the same as it used to be.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
But you have such a good time that you're just like,
I'm gonna dosh it again right now, listen.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
You know what, you know what. I don't know about you,
but since we're going there, I remember, like.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
You changed my in my in my younger days, right,
and especially when I was playing. Did you ever have
those moments where you had your your little one on
one conversation with the man above and said, I know
I did. I would always say, yeah, if you just
let me get through with this, what time, I won't

(03:04):
do it again.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
I'm not gonna do it. No more.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Conversation.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
The following weekend and here we go again.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I'm like, okay, I'm back back back, it's me again.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
I felt like I had this conversation Friday.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, well to.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Have that conversation.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
Acting a damn food, acting like five, I was trying
to be grown, but see I be outside though.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Surel that's the difference.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
Like, you know, my level of being grown hit a
little different than yours.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
You know what, you are so right, You're so right.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I forgot who I was talking about for one for
one moment.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
You forgot.

Speaker 6 (03:45):
Yeah, hold up, I'm about to I'm about to go
to d C. I'm about to go to d C.
So I'm about to be on the same ship you own.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
I know it.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
I need a whole I need a whole week just
to recover. So it's it's ice water her for me.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
The whole week. No, I'm crazy, I'm done.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I mean, but how was the game? I mean, because
we saw you the game wasn't that good.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
See, I thought like the first the.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
First half was good, but overall I was like, okay, no,
it wasn't that good. Let me let me just say
this for the people who don't know, though, since you
brought that up. Game one, Kelsey Mitchell was Kelsey Mitchell
kun stopper. Game two, which is a game I was

(04:36):
there for in person, I felt like her being tired
of carrying that team and all the things finally like
hit her right. And but I only bring that up
because I need for people to understand one thing about
the Kels. Kelsey Mitchell is the truth, the a real deal.

(05:01):
Like I knew that, but to be sitting up close courtside,
just being able to touch and all the things, I
just I just had a whole.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Different level of respect for just all the things that
she does.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
And I know she was a finalist for MVP, but
don't I don't think I know. I do, and you do,
But I don't think she gets enough credit. I really
really don't. And you would be pressed. You would be
hard pressed.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
To find a better guard in the league right now.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeap, A true a true guard, true true, a.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
True shooting guard.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
But the way she maneuvers and does things with her body,
and she she's just so damn quick. Just when you
think like, ah, she going right, and you stop that,
you like, oh, gott her, and she does some tricky
shit with the ball and ends up doing something totally
different that you didn't see coming. I just I could

(06:06):
sit and watch her play all day long. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but Vegas. Vegas came out and did what they were
supposed to do at home, and now the series is
tied one one.

Speaker 7 (06:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
I mean I think that was the game plan.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
Like, they knew that Kelsey ate them up in game
one and they wasn't gonna let them do that again.
So the game plan was to slow down. Anybody else
can score. Anybody else a leader can score, I the
seek and score LEXI. Anybody can score except Kelsey Mitchell.
That was the game plan and it worked. So I mean,
you know, I can't be mad at it, but I mean, yeah,

(06:41):
at the end of the day, Kelsey is Kelsey.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
I voted for Kelsey. I gave her my fifth place vote, and.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
I'm just I've been saying, you and I have both
been saying for years now that for sure she's been
the truth, been the truth, so.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
You know the the not surprisely, the only problem with
her being like a final finalist in the MVP run
is that there's Asia Wilson at.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Yeah, yeah, I said the same I said the same thing, like,
it's it's rough right now playing in the league with
Asia Wilson and trying to get accolades because that woman
is the walking epitome of what it means to be
a great player, and it's gonna be tough to unseat
her and anything right now. So there are so many
deserving players, but you gotta wage your turn because Asia

(07:34):
is doing all the things. And I'm glad I got
a chance to see you on TV during the game.
They showed you, gave you some love, give you a shoutout.
But I'm gonna tell you what really, what really? What
really cracked me up? What really cracked me up when
they gave you a shoutout was looking at Brandon trying
to act like he ain't no he was on screen.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
But first of all, an elbowing. I was elbowing his ass,
like boy, you know you on screen, you see your.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Trying to trying to look down, look around doing Look
that's the bro you know on scread, he's the he'd
be cracking me up just trying to him see himself.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Stop it?

Speaker 4 (08:25):
But it was good. It was good to be recognized
and loved. And you know, going to the games in
Vegas is always a vibe.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Like, it's always a vibe just you never know who's
going to show up, you're gonna be there. But the
fans themselves, they just they love their Aces.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
So it's always a good time.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
You know what.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
That first year that the Aces in New York faced
each other in the finals, when the Aces won, that.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Year was the first year that.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
The finals actually felt like And and by this, let
me preface this by saying, I don't mean to play
on the court because because the final, like, we have
seen some incredible finals over the years, So I don't
mean to play on the court, but I mean that
first year, I want to say that was maybe twenty
twenty three. Twenty twenty three is when between Celebrity Row
and Las Vegas, like I did a whole feature on

(09:17):
DeAndre Duggins and and Shana in New York because these
black women came together to really show out. But what
it means to stack the box at a WNBA finals,
Like at the NBA Finals, we always see the stars
come out in drones and sit court side, But that
year everybody and they mama was coming out. Then they

(09:39):
was having everybody at halftime. Now a standard has been
set where it's like, when I go to Vegas, I
expect to see all of y'all.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
When I go to a Liberty game.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
I expect to see and now other places. You go
to the Fever game, now they got all their stars,
you know, hometown players, Tyres Halliburton, they all out there.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Like I love it.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
You go to a even a Connecticut game, I see
Celtics players coming out and like That's what I'm talking about,
Like it is break it, break it out. It's really
it's beautiful. It's beautiful. One place I.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Didn't get to this year before we go to the
next level, the one place I didn't get to this
year that I absolutely wanted to and it's on my
list of things to do next year.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
I got to get to a Valkyrie's game.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
Same yes, I one hundred percent, same same I have
yet to go out to go. We're going on something crazy.
There's two we have to go to get. I wish
I could have went to the game with you on Tuesday,
but I ended up having to work, so it was
what it was. But there are It's crazy that there

(10:48):
are literally two teams that I've never seen play in
their stadium, obviously one being the Valkyries because they just started.
But all these years I've been come'ring the w I
have never been to an LA Sparks game at home. Really,
I've been to the Staples Center a million times, but

(11:09):
never to see game, never to see the never to
see the Sparks play at home, because you would think
that's one that you absolutely would have seen in person.
Never seen a Sparks game play at home, never seen
a Sparks play at home. Crazy like crazy, It's like
that's the one, that's the one one team. And now
I got to add Portland and Toronto to that list,

(11:32):
oh all the places along with Golden said yeah, but
like like it just it bugs me because yeah, because
they just literally released today. I bring that up because
they just literally released today that they are now building
a facility one hundred and fifty million dollar practice facility
for the LA Sparks.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Let's go about damn times.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
It's about damn time, about damn time, So at any rate,
that just shows the level of our fandom that we
will travel even when we are not covering the game,
to go out and see and watch and support. And
you know what, there's somebody else who you have now

(12:13):
seen on the sidelines out of Chicago game at an
Atlanta game.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
And I love it. I love we talk about the
stars coming out.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
Today's guest is a star that has been around for
many years, has literally found his way to his own
set of stardom, and I am so happy that he
had a time to join us for today's episode.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
And that's our guy, Kevi on stage, I mean keV
on stage.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
He first of all, he had me dying over the
last four days on Twitter because everybody thought that not
everybody but some foods thought the rapture was coming.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
And so talking about what times on is the rapture
coming in.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I saw that. And then so I'm dancing out at
the airport on the starmat you know, I know we're
about to go there. But I wanted to ask a
question to all the people that were like the raptures
happening on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
I wanted to just say, so, did did God call
you and tell you?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Because because I saw your ghost too, Because from the
Bible I read.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Right, he says he gonna come like a thief in
the night. No man knows the day or the out no.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Man, no man right, So if the night, that means
you don't know what he's coming, But yeah, you don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
When he coming, Honey.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
The man in South Africa clearly got the memo before
the rest of us, and he done told everybody. And
I've seen folks talking about they was selling off their.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Goods and I was getting rid of their stuff.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
Well, honey, I mean I got room in my bank
account for whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
He wants you, I won't.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
We're joking right now because I want to be like, listen,
if he calling y'all, can y'all give him my number?

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Because I gotta make sure I'm right and ready.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I just want to hear it directly.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I want to hear it from out call me and
be like, I'm coming on Tuesday, so I can get
my life to geess.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
What I'm saying. Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
The journalist in me will not accept anybody else's sources.
I need to be able to speak to Jesus directly.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Please tell me you.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
On the way, please, Yeah, my god. But anyway, KENV
was funny with that. He was funny with that.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
keV was funny with that, and I know he's gonna
be funny on today's show.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
So let's not waste.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
Any more time without further ado, guys, Let's welcome keV
on stage.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Let's take this thing to the next level. All right.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
I think I told you, guys, like two weeks ago
that we had an episode coming up that you were
not gonna want to miss and that you should be
prepared to be locked in for the entirety of the episode.
And I bet y'all thought I was lying, But I'm
not lying, because that's just It's just is what it is.
And I'm I'm just I just keep it. I just
keep telling y'all to just trust me. And so here
it is today that Sheryl and I are joined by

(15:18):
someone who literally needs no introduction, but I'm gonna try
to give one anyway. This is someone who I've been
watching from YouTube to Facebook, to TikTok to everything almost
And now I get to see him on BT just everywhere,
all over everything, and I am completely blessed to have

(15:42):
this person as a Twitter friend, even though like I
don't think he knew that.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Like being my friend on Twitter was like we were
friends for real, for real.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
I mean that's how we Worn'tyl when you when you
push the follow.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
But and we friends around now, so here we are.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
But without further do please everybody give a warm welcome
to Kevin Frederick's a k A keV on stage.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
A k A keV. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
You something else before? I hate keep doing but you
know we didn't make it. Do what it do?

Speaker 3 (16:16):
What up?

Speaker 4 (16:17):
keV?

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Thank you? I appreciate you. Hey, how are you guys?
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
No, we are excited to have you. Go ahead, sir tee.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
I'm there with you like he don't know it, but yeah,
we're friends.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
So this is so funny. I have to say this upfront.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Uh, Cheryl my brother, you know he told me he
was at All Star many years ago.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
He said, I dance with Cheryl Soup at the club.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Sure did not. I am not am not in nobody's club.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
No, but no, you know what I'm gonna tell you
why that's funny. That's funny because if it's anybody who
knows that I can't get the only way I.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Can keep you in the club when we're on the
road is I got.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
The feet her keV.

Speaker 6 (16:59):
I got to see her each and every single time. Brother,
me and her brother are so bad that we went
off the last time and we just kept.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Sending wings, just kept sending wings.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Just take platting against me.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
We just kept sting. We just kept sending wings. That
we sitting over some fries, some little mini burgers, was like,
what is food good?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
We like, this is this is so not a Cheryl
Swoops interview.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
It's not this is this isn't keV.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
We had to get that.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
To get that out the way, had to get that off.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
The best question though, or the most important question though,
is like did he like my moves or not?

Speaker 3 (17:43):
He said it was a great time. He talked about
it all the time. He said, man, Cheryl's was a
good time.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Man.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
I said, brother, you're lying, man, But he maintained that
it really happened. I don't know, but I just got
to tell you said two years ago, no, no, many
years ago.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
This was this was many years ago. I'm sure that
did happen, keV without absolutely happened for sure.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, us tell him. I said, it
was absolutely a good time. I just it was.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
First sure that went down, that went down, that went down,
Oh my god, that went down, you know, first and foremost,
I got to say that I love your w NBA fandom,
And it is the funniest thing to me because you know,
like this time is when we start to see like

(18:39):
all types of people come out the woodwork, right, Who'll
be like, I've been a WNBA fan for forever, and
then you get your few folks who's like, listen, I
just really got turned on. So I just kind of
got to start because I see your pictures with Asia,
then I see your pictures with Angel, You'll be going
so hard and I absolutely love it. Can you just
talk about or start with just where your passion for

(19:01):
the w NBA.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
K I will.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I will tell you, and this is the absolute truth.
I'm a basketball fan. I played basketball growing up like
everybody in the neighborhood. Wasn't wasn't great. Started all four
four years of JV though. Let him know, I watched
don't worry about it because that don't worry about it, man.
Me and my coach, we didn't see how Todd. So
I remember when a WNA debuted. I watched the first game,

(19:27):
like and I watched a lot of the season. I
member brocherryl and Cynthia Cooper and you know, Rebecca Lobo
and like Lisa Leslie, Like I was watching that game,
Don Staley all that stuff. I remember when you know,
the WNBA Olympians were on that episode of Martin and
it was like culturally relevant. And then I think, so

(19:47):
I was living in Washington, the Seattle Storm were the
only good team in Seattle for many years. They were
the only team winning championships. I remember Swing Cash. I
went back through my tweets. I didn't tweet about it
all the time, but I remember watching like we were
That was the only tam we could be proud of
was the Storm, super Bird and Swing Cash.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
We had Lauren for a little bit. Yeah, we was hooping.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
And then like I think when I moved from Washington
to la I kind of just fell off. And what
happened I think during that time and this is this
is probably my one thing that I can be honest
about the WNBA wasn't on regular TV like it had
been when I first was watching, so the storm was

(20:33):
on local. It was like Channel four Storm games would
just come on. When WNBA first started, it felt like
it was on ABC, like we were able to watch it.
And then somehow I don't really remember what happened, but
I was like, I've always kind of been aware of
who won the champion. I followed it, but you know,
my job is online, so I usually tweet about things
that I think will get relevant, so I can be
straight up.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
I've kept up Maya more.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
I kept up when she was hooping, and then I
fell off Angel Rees and Caitlyn Clark, actually Angel Reese first,
if I'm being honest.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah, I remember seeing Angel Reese's clips.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
I saw Caitlin Clark and she was hitting like logo threes,
and I was like, dang, that's that's crazy, like that
girl mine was really she shouldn't be so I like
clock that. I was like, okay, I remember that name.
But Angel she is a black woman after my own heart.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
And I love that.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
She just reminds me of my nieces. She reminds me
of my homegirls.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
She's competitive, like like I am like, she's the dog.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
I remember her shoe came off.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
She was doing the too small sign and talking trash
at the free throw line.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
I'm like this.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
And see now that part right. I remember when Caitlyn
did that too. Kaitlyn was doing that all the time,
and I remember she shoot away. I think it was
Raven from South Carolina. She shoot her off when she
was at the three point line. I was like, okay,
this little white girl, no suspect, she out here talking
trash like.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
And I did actually didn't mind it, like I like,
I like competitiveness.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Talk to that.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
You can't guard me, you can't see me.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
So when Angel did it back to her, it didn't
strike me as crazy. I was like, oh, Angel's getting
her back as that was. Oh now it's put the
ring on my finger. You can't see me. And I'm like, yeah,
girl talking like I was just like, and Kaitlyn didn't.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Yeah, as a sports fan, talk your trash like, that's
part of sports.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
You call your shot, you game winning, you celebrate all
that type of stuff. Then it blew up like way
more than I thought, and it became race relations in America.
Yeah right, And I just I felt like then I
had to defend Angel as a black person. I was like, oh,
you're not Finna just talk crazy because this is my
girl right right. And I was very curious because I've

(22:49):
been a fan of the NBA, and I was like,
I remember the NBA was struggling.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
Then you had Burden Magic.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
They kind of their rivalry, that white dude from Indiana
and the flashy dude from miss and they had the
national championship. Then they went to the NBA and the
NBA was like immediately was like, oh, we're gonna market this,
and I was like, oh, I can see how that.
I remember wanting to see how both of them translated
into the w n B A And around that time,

(23:14):
around the pandemic, I decided I wanted to be more
intentional about supporting black women. So when w when that happened,
I said, let me let me go out of my
way to watch the games. I'm gonna go to games.
I'm gonna get lead passed. I found out ION as
a channel. Did not know that before the WBA on
them games be on that Ion.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
I don't know. I've never heard of ION before.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
I got YouTube TV and I started watching and then
what happened, and I'm so glad I did this. Me
and my family went to an Aces game early in
this thing, and I remember watching and I'm like, yo,
this is much more physical and fast than I realized
that they They don't they wasn't calling no fouls like that,
And I said, these rest is this, this is a

(23:57):
this is like this is like concrete basketball, like you
almost call your own faults. It was crazy, and then
people were like, knock here. The w is way more
physical than the NBA, like this this is on par
So I think going to a game made me like
fall in love with it more. And in my experience,
WNBA games are often very competitive regular season games too.

(24:20):
They're really competitive, more than most sports like the NBA.
I love this is not to like put down the NBA,
but they're not. They're games in early October, November, before
the Commissioners Cup, ain't really playing really for real till
after the All Star break. Then they really knock in.
And then the playoffs it's like, okay, playoff basketball. And
I think that's kind of common knowledge the WNBA. Their
season is shorter, their smaller teams, so the great players

(24:43):
are more they're everybody got two or three people right,
So the games were really competitive, and I just love basketball.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
I remember thinking the summer, I'm.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Watching like I'm watching softball, I'm watching Little League World Series,
I'm watching the hot dog competitions. Like the WNBA was
in the perfect time in the summer, but it was
never just like I'm on the road a lot, so
you know, it's not on the TVs and stuff, and
I think that's kind of when I left Washington and
before Angel in Kaitlin, it just wasn't on. So then

(25:13):
I had to go out of my way. And then
like Angel and Caitlin, you know, their rivalry renewed a
lot of interest, brought a lot of new people to it.
And then the games are now on ESPN more than
I remember, Like I remember playoff games in the championships,
they were available, so I would like tune in, And
now I'm legit watching w NBA all the time. I

(25:34):
just watched last night the Aces played the Storm, and
I'm kind of conflicted because Asia, I love her, but
I was a Storm fan, so I'm like, but I
realized I was rooting for Asia.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
I ain't gonna ho.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
But like Skyler Diggins hit a shot, she talking trash.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Milanda is a great rookie, Like you can see Asia
is better.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Than her, but you see the like I see the
potential and like Yill, she gets good.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
And that's what I was saying.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
I was like, it reminds me of like in boxing,
like Floyd fighting an early Canelo, Like you know, the
person who's better and more experienced.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
But you see, like, oh.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
If she keep going on this thing, she gonna be
She's gonna be tough to deal with, you know. And
it's it's and I think what the w NBA has
because I think the women's college game, they stay in college.
They have a lot of narratives and rivalries that you
can follow into the league, and the mess games kind
of has lost that a little bit because there's so
many different options before you get to the NBA. So

(26:36):
there's a lot of oh man, they you know Yukon
and Page was her and now Juju's hert she gonna
come back and like you know, you would you kind
of want if Page didn't get hurt, you know, And
I want to watch Page. So it's I am all
in now it is. I'm so happy it's popular. I
want to do my part I went and it went
to I think like four or five games this year.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
And the playoffs are lost. Best of three is tough.
Best three and last year they didn't even you didn't
even get guarantee the home game.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
It's like you really gotta want it, like you gotta
beat us once that are on Florida even get a
chance to go back to Like that's.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
Some tough that's listen.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
That's the reason why yesterday I was like, uh, Indiana
better win this game as much as they can plain
about not.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Win and shame on Atlanta, Like huh yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
That Like I think if if the Aces and Storm
played in Las Vegas, Aces win that game, I think
they you play harder. You know, they mean some free
throws and stuff, but down the stress, you play hard
in front of your fans, like that matters. So I
am so happy that it's more available and becoming more available.
I'm watching unrivaled now. I think the one on one

(27:50):
thing is I watched a rival I said, I don't
know how nobody never thought of this, Like it's it's
such a smart thing, one on one like NBA player,
I've never seen this. I've always wanted to see that
and you really got to go out there one on
one is as close to boxing as you get. Like,
you can't blame the rest, you can't blame it the coach.

(28:10):
It's me against you.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
What's up? Check up? So yeah, man, I mean he not.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Wrong the way they was trying to get that bread.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
Like, hey they were playing.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, well, I'm going to put you on the spot
right now since we're talking about the W and the
playoffs and all that.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
So who you got winning it all?

Speaker 5 (28:30):
Okay? I have actually put a lot of thought to this,
Oh do tell.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Beginning of the season, I was like, kind of like
last season, Liberty looked like a well oiled machine.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
It was theirs to lose.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Minnesota looked like that for the majority of the season
until and then when Nafisa went out they really didn't
really lose. And when she came back, it was like
back on the aces. Remind me of those Giants teams,
where like they might not have played well early in
the season, but they.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Started clicking at the right time.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
I think putting Jewel coming off the bench, they it
like snapped them into focus. Her shots started falling like
it wasn't like it was not clicking. Early in the season,
there is something to say about clicking at the right moment,
and a seventeen eighteen game when she going into the playoffs,
it's gonna be hard to beat them four times. I

(29:21):
think it's gonna be hard to beat them four times.
So I would say, if I had to put money up,
I'd say the Aces are the ones to beat right now,
just because they're playing probably the most unified basketball and
it's kind of like, you gotta beat them, like you
know what I'm saying, you gotta beat them. For a minute,

(29:41):
They're the dream where my little dark horse. I went
to a couple of dream games. They had all the
right pieces, but like Asia, to me, she just.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Stands above everyone, and it's like they may lose. She
is different.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
She is and when she's on you was just like, okay,
well she getting twenty five.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Okay, now what else can we do?

Speaker 6 (30:07):
This's like that remind me that they kind of remind me.
At twenty twenty one Chicago's Sky team. You know, that
team was struggling and they in this regular season like
five hundred. Next thing, you know, Candice Parker and Colia
Copper put the team on their back and they won
the shit. So I was like, okay, like I can
see Vegas doing that.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
I can see I didn't.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Watch that season, but I believe trust me, I was
curious about that because I remember them watching. I remember
them that season always gets highlighted talking about the Sky
for different reasons.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
That's because that's the last time that Chicago could be
spoken about in a positive place.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
Yeah, and that's what I'm so.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
It's so interesting to follow a sport that's been active
for almost thirty years and like find out all this stuff.
People like cav they the Sky will let their best
players go. And then we see what happened with Angel
this season. It's like that doesn't usually happen with players
like that and others sports you don't. You don't really
see gms talk about current players like you see coaches

(31:05):
say that. Yeah, the coach is like, we need more
out of you, But you don't see gms speak like that.
So that that's a situation now.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
That is, unless we're talking about the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Fast accept them, Fast accept them.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
Except now Jerry, don't say his stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Jerry, I want to add on to something you just
said about that, and I really want to get your
opinion or thoughts on it. So personally, I didn't really
have an issue with what Angel said, right, And a
lot of people were like, yeah, but she's got to
find a different way to say that.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Why because in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
No, Because in the NBA they talk about each other
all the time.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
They talk about, look, coach, got to give me some help.
We need better players, we need people that go win.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
And when they said in the NBA, everybody's like about
time somebody said it.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
So then you get Angels.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Saying the exact same thing, and all of a sudden,
it's like, how dare you say that?

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Why do you think?

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Why?

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Why do you think that?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Is that on the NBA?

Speaker 4 (32:16):
It's on our side not so much.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
I don't think we know how to talk about the
w n b A the same way we talk about
the NBA or women in sports the same way we
talk about men in sports.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Don't know what they're talk about, I shouldn't talk about it.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Then, Well, that ain't never stopped nobody on the internet.
In the barbershop, people never have no dog on an opinion.
We just in fact, breath in my body. I'm gonna
say something I think hearing it absolutely your franchise player,
which no hardly anybody would argue Angel is the Sky's

(32:50):
franchise player. You hear the Star franchise player talk like
that all the time. I'll even throw myself in there.
I realized I'm not at the place yet where I
criticize women the way I would men. I'd be like,
I don't know, keV you know you know you knew.
And that's mostly because I feel like I'm new to
the WNBA.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
I feel like I haven't earned my stripes enough.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
To be able to talk about like, yeah, I feel like.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
I can say I can say, oh, if the Aces
hit their free throws, they might win this game. But
I'm not like Asia should do this, And I don't
really do like I might say Kaitlin, she hasn't been
playing as well as she did last year, but I don't.
I don't really be like man NBA, be like boy
this you know, Luk a trash game six. He didn't
show up at all. He non for said like, I
don't talk with the same thing. So I think as

(33:40):
I become more entrenched and more familiar with everything in
the history and all that stuff, I would feel more comfortable.
But I feel like we we as a society, we aren't.
We don't do that yet because it is she said
something that I have heard a million times in all
different types of sports from the franchise player. I need
help this person might not being and I can see

(34:01):
how the players might have taken offense to it. But
I think sometimes, you know, maybe having them players all meetings,
you need your best player to you just say that,
and she hold herself to that same standard as well,
so I think with time, I think we will get
there with a w Well.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
I can also add to that that after she said
that the very next day they played Connecticut because I
was covering that game and they blew their head off
and I was like.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Dam maybe Angel should have said that ship five years
ago because.

Speaker 6 (34:31):
That is all they needed to step up and come
out here and play. But to that point, I think
it also adds to the fact that when we do
talk about women in that way, like as regular athletes,
then we got to be hating. Like while we gotta
be hated, you know what I mean, Like you can't
just like when you get those who do just criticize

(34:51):
and rightfully so. And even those like Chryl like Candice,
like others who have the criteria in the resume and
the like, who's gonna tell Sheryl she can't talk about
the w.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, but people people do that all the person who signed.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
But people say that all the time. Oh she's just hayten,
But oh that.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
What?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
So I mean if they don't get either, I want
to tell you one thing before we get into other stuff.
So because I want both of your thoughts on this,
and Tea, I know you saw it. So Angel maccawtree
did an interview, right, and did you see this, keV? Yeah,
I saw it, Okay, So for the people who didn't,

(35:41):
I'm gonna put it out there because I want, I want,
I have my thoughts and I want y'all thoughts. So
you know she's saying, I get it what Angel said,
but you know, you gotta.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
I don't know exactly what her words were.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
But at the end she basically said, you know, if
I were her, what I would do is go to
one of my many sponsors and say give me an
extra hundred thousand dollars so I can give each one
of my teammates ten.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Am I right? That's pretty much how I was so
before I get your thoughts. Do the men do that?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
That's first, But second, I also don't know if it's
maybe things are different today. I also don't know if
it's that easy to go to one of your sponsors
and say, I appreciate what you're giving me, but I
need an extra hundred thousand for my teammates.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I'm gonna tell you sis.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
I was laughing at the fact that she said this
is what I would do, because ty.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Young came on the thread and was like, no, you wouldn't. Angel.
I lost it.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
I missed lost it.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
I loss that one because I said, why are you
sitting up her line?

Speaker 2 (36:58):
You would not listen.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
I'm not I'm not gonna lie. I wouldn't do it.
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
But if you want to talk about players getting more money,
go to the league, go to the team, and today
we need more money. That's not that's not a player's responsibility.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
No, no, no, nobody's doing that. And this is not
the NFL where you know, you sign your big deal,
you buying all your teammates rolexes or were taking them
out the lunk. I mean, they're signing multi million dollar
contracts that can take the world.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
But Angel, Angel has done stuff like that for her teammates.
She's gifted them beats, she's bought them bags like, She's
done things like that.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
That's great. Like honestly, like with you, I'm with you,
like I'm trying to keep.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
I think I'm trying to keep off my court.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
I think in spirit.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
I'll just say this as a person who's working brands,
it doesn't necessarily work like that, because what the brands
are trying to do is their money. They're paying for reach.
I pay you to reach more people. And Angel because
of her. First of all, let me just say this,
because I ain't had a chance to defend Angel in

(38:27):
a while. Angel earned this by her play on the
basketball court. Yeah right, Angel from LSU. When you watch
Angel Reese play, she is a difference maker on the
court rebounds. I remember when the first season I said
the stretches people were going through to diminish her, trying

(38:51):
to make it seem like rebounds are not a big
part of basketball. It's every rebound is a possession. A
defensive rebound is a possession, every offensive rebound is a
new possession. So she got to the point where the
brands are even paying her one she put that ring
on her finger, Two she plays well, and three when

(39:13):
she got to the WNBA, she was breaking records. Right,
the brands are trying to attach to her star power,
and yes, with her power, she might be able to
give that money away. But to Cheryl's point, that's not
usually how that works. That's not how brands work, that's
not really how contracts work, and it's definitely not how
men are.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
Expected to do it.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
And Kawhi Leonard is accused of doing that, No shodd say, Kawhi,
why you ain't give none of that money to the
rest of the pills. I've never heard that type of
story in my history of basketball watching. Yeah, I sign
one hundred million dollars, I buy some Rolexes, I might
pay for dinner, but give everybody one hundred grand? Is
I mean our ten grand? That just hasn't in my experience.

(39:57):
I haven't heard that happening before. And I don't know
if Angel would be the first person to be responsible
for doing that.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
He ain't nobody doing that. Dana out here losing it.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
I will say this though, and I don't get a
chance to talk about this often, but before we switch gears,
I will say this one last thing. Back in twenty
twenty three, twenty twenty three, twenty twenty three, I was
covering the NCAA Finals and that was the finals where
it was LSU, Iowa, South Carolina, and I forgot who
else was in C State.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
I think it was INNC State or Maryland, one of
them two.

Speaker 6 (40:28):
But long story short, I have to go to every
locker room, and so I get to the Iowa locker
room and I asked about this whole thing, and everybody
in there told me. And I was working for ESPN
at the time, and everybody in here told me the
story about where this came from, and that it was
Louisville that was the other team, and they all said,

(40:50):
Caitlin never did this to a person. It was an
inside joke between her and somebody and one of their coaches,
assistant coaches, so whenever she.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Was doing it, she was doing it to a coach.

Speaker 6 (40:59):
And so then I asked Hailey van Lynz, who was
on the other side at the time at Louisville, and
she was like, Nah, she ain't never did this to
me because we know Haley Lit So if she had
never did this to Haley, Haley for show would clocked
her tee like no, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
So I understood in slight why it.

Speaker 6 (41:18):
Was like, dang, I wasn't doing this to players, right,
And I even tried to defend Caitlyn a little bit, like, no,
she wasn't doing it to players. But at the end
of the day, I don't care if he was doing
it to a player or not. Angel Steele can be
like you can't see me now put my on it,
Like I didn't care whether she was doing it to
a player or not. Like, don't don't make it seem
like Kaitlyn was doing this to other people because she wasn't.

(41:40):
But at the same time, we don't care if she
wasn't doing it because.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Angel still could do it, Like it's.

Speaker 6 (41:47):
What we do in sports. I have done and said
much worse on a basketball court.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
I don't even know that I love it.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
I never knew. I remember that she waved raven off.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
She definitely waved raven Off, Yes.

Speaker 5 (41:59):
I remember and doing player.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Doing this shoot it?

Speaker 5 (42:05):
Yes, Like just what't that in basketball?

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Like all the time?

Speaker 3 (42:08):
That's hard of a mental game, like doing that to
somebody is designed to mess with your confidence.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
It's like we ain't got no shot like.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
That's I hadn't been seen it done in a game
at a college level, but on the pickup.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
Court you've seen you've seen.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
That all shot shoot like because now you either got
to shoot it or pass it.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
And now I'm in your head.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
When you do that, when you wave him off right
and you're like, man, I ain't got no shot.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
You know he's gonna shoot.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
It for sure. It's like a gut check thing, right.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
But I think Lebron does this when somebody dunks on him.
Other players are doing his stuff, they're doing his celebration.
You see people do that thing. Thing is if I
got the better of you, I'm gonna Jordan did it
to the Ken Babe.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
He did this to the kimb like.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
So to me, that's not unusual in sports. I think
it really got blown way out of proportion.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
Listen, let's be honest.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
A lot of the media and people in America, and
I don't blame Kaitlin for this.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
People used her to get.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
How they felt stuff, and it made her their thing
to defend.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
We got to finished. She never even said that. She
just walked off.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Like you know what I'm saying. She became the like
we have to protect her. She she never seemed to
need anybody to protect her. She looked like a big
girl on the car with everybody else.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Protection, and she be running her mouth on a silent
everybody else. Taylor talked ship with the best with the best.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Fine.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
That's when she and she goes to the crowd. Absolutely,
I see Dwayne Wade do it. You see Tom Brady
get think. I just wish it were equal.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
It's just not. And that's not even outside of the
w Tom Brady gets mad.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
He throws a pick, he throws the Microsoft power point.
He's passionate as Brian does it. It's like he's angry.
It's like, just cover things equally. That's in America. That
doesn't happen. It just doesn't happen. So it's not unusual
to not happen for women because it doesn't happen.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
It's like even how we talk about.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Athletes, it's like you you only say white receivers are
sneaky athletic.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
That's not a term you even use for black receivers.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
I don't even know what that means.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
It means you're white and fast.

Speaker 7 (44:39):
Just say you're asking what is sneaky I'm gon run
around when you're not paying it, like what do you man?

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Good?

Speaker 4 (44:51):
What sneaky?

Speaker 3 (44:52):
And it's like my quarterbacks. You you only compare them
to their race of quarterback. It's it's ridiculous, but America
is a ridiculous place, so it makes.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
It makes it's a ridiculous place. And sports is only
a microcosm of the real world.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
And we see thousand per sit.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
All the time.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
It is a reason.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
It is another way to it's it's a it's reflect
Wrestling is reflective of America sports room.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
It's not unusual that it's and it's always been like that.

Speaker 6 (45:21):
Listen, don't you start talking about wrestling, because I just
came back from Monday Night Raw and I'm in my
feelings right now. But this is gonna be a whole
different conversation. We ain't even got time to go in
w w WE. We ain't even got time because because
I sent you at WrestleMania, and.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
I was like, I'm doing all the things to Rika,
I'm doing all look sure can.

Speaker 6 (45:42):
Tell you I was in my feelings because I was
supposed to be at WrestleMania. My husband played with me
on the dog on Hotel because you know how we be.
We can't stand to just pay upfront for nothing. We
always got to have a hookup for something at play with.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
Me on the hookup for the hotel.

Speaker 6 (45:56):
So now I'm at home watch a WrestleMania mad than
a mug when I really should have been in Vegas
singing on the side like everybody else.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
But it's cool. I ain't even gonna truck.

Speaker 6 (46:07):
I everybody video, everybody posting a videos posting it. I
was hating so hard but secretly liking every last one
of them. That person that like your stuff, but you
know you, they mad at you. That was me on
everybody's WrestleMania video.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
That was me.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
I'm hilarious.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Mad.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
All right, let's switch gears really quick because we don't
have a ton of time. But we got to get
into all of the projects and the things that you've
been doing. Gotta start with Churchy because that show be
having me? Did church you be having me dead? When
you it's it's it's oh so growing up a p K.

(47:00):
It's so many things that I just am like I
live this, like I live this, And it's interesting to
see how there is such a an interchange between like
faith in comedy, which is something that I don't think
for a long time people thought could exist. So just like,
how do you kind of keep the show funny but

(47:22):
still like honoring and really, you know, trying to keep
that faith experience that you know so many of us
grew up with.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yeah, I think that's a great question. First, I'm a
real church kid. I'm one of those ones whose whole
life we was going to church five days week, not exaggerating,
we was in there every other day, back to back, Friday, Saturday,
Sunday for either rehearsal, church one or the other. So
you can't spend that much time in a place and

(47:50):
not find the humor in it because you're going to
be there anyway. And I think for me it started
early making fun of what happened in church at home,
in front of my grandma and my mom and my
uncles in them. So I learned then what is funny,
what is sacred, what you can say, what you can't say.
And I think growing up on TV, it just never
felt like the churches on TV were really reflective of

(48:12):
how church actually was. You know, It's like they used
in a pipe organ on TV and black churches pipe
organ is for Catholic churches. That's not maybe other churches,
I don't know who, but I know the Black Church
doesn't use no pipe organ So for me, I wanted
to make it as authentic as my experience had been.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
And that's how I think.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
I can make people laugh but without ever being disrespectful.
And I can make fun of pretty much everything in church.
But I know now, you don't play with that pool bit.
I remember one of the jokes and pitched for this
season was like, one of the guys should get some
communion crackers and shaking his hand like some of our
season eat him. I was like, hey, amen, were not
playing with no communion. That's the body of Christ. Y'all

(48:52):
we're doing that, we're not doing And they didn't know.
They didn't go to church, so they just thought would
be funny. Like, yeah, that would not be funny, respectful
and it would not go over well and I would
not have no part of nothing like that. So I
think people trust that everything I say and do is
from a place of love. And you can make fun
of something you love, you can point out the flaws
and something you love, but there's a certain level of

(49:14):
reverence that I still have for the church, and I
think that's why the show works.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Yeah, keV you, I wanted to ask you because people
ask me all the time, like why basketball? What made
you get into basketball? I know your bio and your
bio says you grew up a military kid, and is
that how.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
You got into comedy and like what was that?

Speaker 5 (49:36):
Like?

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah, I think it definitely played a part. I kind
of was always funny, so it's always making my family laugh.
But being a military kid, you have to move around
a lot. And what is hard is when you move
from a military base to a military base, but you
don't go to a military school. You got to be
extra to make friends because these kids have usually grown
up together. When you go to military school, there's always

(49:57):
a lot of people who are new kind of easier
to make friends. But sometimes we didn't live on base,
so I definitely had to amp up my personality to
try to meet new people and make friends. We end
up it was quite often that we moved to a
new city but not go to the school on base,
So I was like, hey.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
Man, what's up way, how y'all doing? Man?

Speaker 3 (50:14):
And I actually basketball helped that as well, because if
people are playing pickup. You don't have to know them.
You go and call next and people be like, all right,
you got next. Like there's certain rules that everybody knows.
Everybody knows how twenty one goes for whatever reason. I
don't know how everybody in America knows twenty one or version.
I mean, everybody kind of has a working knowledge. So
I think basketball is a lot like that in that way,

(50:37):
it's an easy way to make friends. You know, if
you can play, you can play. If you call next
and nobody's waiting, then you got next. Like and I
think so it's the combination of basketball and comedy definitely
helped me make friends, and it definitely helped develop my
personality and a big reason I am the way I
am now.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
I want to follow up real quick to was there
ever a point where your parents were like, boy, you
ain't funny comedy, ain't it figured something else out?

Speaker 5 (51:06):
Never?

Speaker 3 (51:07):
In my life my parents they have always been really
supportive of my comedic aspirations.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
I've always been able to make people laugh.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
They kind of always came to my shows so funny,
Melissa's that Melissa my wife's herd father he had every
show we'd ever done in Washington in his garage, every
comedy show, every play, everything I've ever done. One of
my deacons was the same way. So I think I've
always had a lot of support from everybody who was
close to me. So no, they now, they might not

(51:38):
have thought I should go play basketball. That probably ain't
God's playing for your life for the long haul. But
that ain't it for you, brother, you know, But them
jokes and stuff, you can you can, you can?

Speaker 5 (51:50):
You could play that down the road and see where
that lead you. For sure.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
I definitely remember when you came up here to heart
Ford about a year or two ago to Funny Bones
and me and my sores, we definitely went to Funny
Bone and it was hilarious. But you're about to go
on tour with Tony the Ball Brothers and that's gonna
kick off on the twenty seventh of September, and y'all,
I can't imagine like what this tour is about to

(52:17):
be because Tony Tony Baker be having me dead.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I'll be rolling.

Speaker 6 (52:22):
And so just from you know, the podcast that you
guys have and the clips that you guys post, what
can fans expect on this tour that the that you
too are about to have.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Listen, Tony Baker is one of the funniest people on earth.
Going on tour with him is a blessing and a treat.
I can set Tony Baker up to make you laugh.
We and together, we are very funny together. But you
you're getting two comedians who love making people laugh, love
making each other laugh. We're both It's a completely freestyled

(52:55):
comedy set. So you can come and see us every
tour stop and you're gonna get six teen different shows.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
But it's like being able to play with a great player.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Like one of my greatest skills I think is I
know I'm good at comedy, but I don't think I'm
the best, nor do I have to be. And it's
like Lebron is my favorite player in the NBA. It's
like I might be a good player in the NBA.
It might even be an All Star some years, but
I know I ain't know Lebron. Tony Baker he Lebron,
so I would. I just love to be if I'm

(53:27):
on your team, I get to benefit from your greatness.

Speaker 5 (53:29):
Yeah, and I'll rebound it and kick it out to you.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
You can go for thirty ten and nine. As long
as we win, I'm happy, And I think that's what
it's like now. I might I'm gonna do a few things.
I'm gonna do what I gotta do, but it can
be his show as long. And this comes back from
I used to do plays. I don't have to be
the star of every aspect. I just want to make
sure the show is good. And if the show is good,

(53:53):
the audience has a good time. I might come back
by myself and they'll be like, man, when Kevin Tony came,
it was funny, So I'm gonna go see him by himself,
or his movie might be funny, or his TV show
might be funny. So I just wanted to deliver on
the funny anytime you see me. I wanted to deliver
on the funny so that the next time you have
a chance to come see me, you be like, Okay,
I gotta go, you know, because I ain't really probably
gonna come back to Hartford that much. So I want
you to be to be like, how closest Kem's gonna

(54:16):
get to me?

Speaker 7 (54:18):
The weekend, I'm gonna be in Boston.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
There with youbody, anybody, anybody going to hard, nobody, nobody defense.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
They pulled up and they sold out and they had
great energy. It took a lot of work to get
them tickets sold. They were like, we just ain't gona
buy the tickets.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Sure, I'm talking about being in the club. You do,
you do? So I have.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
I saw this.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Clip and I cannot remember who the comedian was, but
I I feel like laughter it soothes the all right,
and especially in the climate we're living in today, like.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
We need more laughter.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
So I saw this clip this comedian, I can't remember
who it was, but.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
He was doing what y'all do.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
He was making jokes and there was a lady in
the audience who got very offended, like it was a
political joke.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
I won't even get into what it was.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
I bring that up because I want to ask you, like,
as a as a comedian, that is your job to
tell jokes, to make us laugh.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
That's what we paid to come and see.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Given the environment that we're living in today, are you
are you conscious of like who's in the audience and
what jokes you make? Or are you just you and
regardless you're just going.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
To be you?

Speaker 5 (55:53):
You know what. That's a great question I think for me.
I'm just me.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
I think when you come to a comedy show, there's
certain rules you accept. They gonna make jokes. They might
make a joke that I don't agree with. They might
make a joke that I find offensive, But overall I
have they are trying to make me laugh. And I
think as long as the audience comes with that point

(56:20):
of view, and we believe it or not, most comedians
want to make you laugh. We don't want to make
you mad. We don't want to make you get up
and walk out. That's antithetical to my job. My job
is to make as many people laugh as possible. And
if I have a joke about white people for whatever
reason I might want to, it might be about you,
but I want you to be like.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
That's still funny.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Though he got me, I'm not gonna say nothing about
you that I wouldn't say about myself.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Like we just having fun with respect now.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
I'm also not like when you go over here talk
crazy about black women and be like it was just
a joke. Sometimes people want to get their racist feelings
off under guys of a joke, nothing funny. You just
said something like racist and terrible. So I don't play
in that arena. But I think right now and maybe
always in America, we've kind of always needed laughter because

(57:13):
but it feel it does feel like even in my
forty two years of life, it feels more divisive than
I remember other years being. And I think social media
has a big part to do with that, and I
think the algorithms pushing negativity makes that worse as well.
So I think my job is more important, probably now
than ever, just to make people laugh because the days
gonna be dark anyway, so I just want to bring

(57:35):
some light into an already dark day.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
Well listen, keV.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
If and when I come to one of your shows,
I'm just telling them be there. I'm a cheer for you,
I'm an laugh and all the things. I will never
sit in the front. I never understand why people go
to a comedy show and they like, oh, you are
not about to make a joke about me and talk
about me.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
That's how people who be be killing me, Like why
would you show like if.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
I'm gonna I got to say something, that's the rule.
That's the rule.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
That's what you keV.

Speaker 6 (58:15):
I was three, But well, keV, we have definitely enjoy
having you. We know you got to get out of here,
but I just got one quick question before we let
you go.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
We got something on your list, you ask you, because
I do have one you want to go last?

Speaker 4 (58:30):
Yeah, I'll go Okay, I'll make that quick because this
is very, very, very important.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
So there was a clip that I saw of you
on Instagram where you were talking about why men should
never cheat and you got very emotional talking about your
wife and your relationship with your wife, and I absolutely
loved the vulnerability from you because I don't think men

(58:55):
and especially black men, we never see that side. Can
you share just a little bit about what that moment
was about with you and why you say men should
never cheat?

Speaker 5 (59:08):
I think absolutely.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
For me, my wife is my best friend, she's my
greatest asset, she's my superpower, and I would never devalue
all the things that she is.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
For some Kuchie, Oh, I love that.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
I love just there's more, And honestly, I could even
say that just on the sexual aspect, because cheating is usually,
you know.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
Sex related.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
There's a level of sex that's better if you fully
trust somebody, you feel safe with them, that I don't
think you can have in a one night stand in
an affair or something like that, so I don't have
I would feel more guilt and condemnation if I ever
did that.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
But outside of the sexual aspect, this is somebody I respect,
honor trust.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
I wouldn't want to hurt her, devalue her, and I
wouldn't want to lose access to the best parts of
her or lose her trust. Like I've built that trust
over twenty six years. I could destroy that, and I
probably I don't know if I could ever reach this
level of trust if I were to violate violated now.
And I think one thing that makes me I was

(01:00:15):
just telling somebody else, Like when I'm done with my show,
I call my wife and I go to bed. I
think I'm a better performer, I'm more creative because I'm
not wasting There's only so much energy you have, so
I'm wasting my energy cheating line, hiding stuff. Then I
have less energy to be creative. And I think by
being faithful it allows me to simply get more rest

(01:00:38):
have more of my energy available for creativity because I'm
not wasting it on frivolous things like that. So I
wouldn't even say I started it with that in mind.
But over the years, I've realized it's a benefit of
mind because I don't have a lot of other And
then if she finds out we are arguing that, I'm tense.
I can't be creative if we are arguing in beefing, like,
I gotta deal with that. But when we're in a

(01:01:00):
good place, a show might come in my mind, a
funny video because I'm I'm in a happy place. So
it's much more for me. It's much more easy to
be creative if I'm creating from a place of joy
and I'm in most of the time, I'm in a
joyce you know, part of my life, so that I
don't want to I don't want to ruin any of that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
You're welcome. You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
No, like I just you know, as black men were,
so they're so prideful and they're never very rarely do
they show their vulnerable side. And and I just I
just gained so much respect for you at that moment.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
Yes, as two married women on this show, we absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Absolutely we sharing.

Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
We're sharing that clear homes go to bed Joesph, Oh
my god. Well, well, the very last one that I
have for you is just simply you know, what is
something that you're looking to do that you haven't done yet.
Is there a project or something that you are desperately saying, Man,
I can't wait to do I can't wait to work

(01:02:12):
with this person, Like I can't wait to do this,
but you just haven't quite done it yet.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Wow, that's a good question. I don't even I would
love to. I don't know if there's just like one person.
There's so many people I want to work with. Off
the top of my head, I would love to work
with Regina Hall. I think she is so funny and
her comedic skills are not Obviously she has dramatic skills

(01:02:40):
as well, but yeah, her comedic skills are so funny.
I think she might be the person, but the project.
I have some things that I'm working on that people
would not expect from me, that I hopefully in the
next year or two will come out.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
I love to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Keep people on their toes, Like you're not gonna be
able to say, Kevi is of this guy?

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Yes, I love Churchie, but when Church's over, I'm not
going to be like, oh, hey, here's my next church project.
Like I'm going to be like, Okay, I want to
do this.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
I want to be able to create in all these
different ways. So I think that's a good part about
my life is I'm able to be excited about the
next thing. Always as a project is ending, I'm always
at the very beginning of another project. So I want
to make movies, excuse me, in the next.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
Couple of years.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
So I'm very excited for people to see that part
of me because I think that I've kind of always
wanted to do that, and i think I'm closer now
than I've ever been.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (01:03:32):
I'm very excited for that for you, and I'm even
more excited to see how Chryl and I will have
a role in whatever it is.

Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
I was going to talk to young people about that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Young people a.

Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
DAVI.

Speaker 6 (01:03:46):
It has absolutely been a pleasure. Thank you so much
for spending some time with us.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
We truly appreciate it and we wish you will and
all your endeavors.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
Thank you. keV.

Speaker 6 (01:04:07):
Sure, Kevin is crazy. There is no other way to
describe this man but crazy. And there was things we
didn't even like, we didn't even get into.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Oh gosh, I was gonna say that this conversation could
have been like hours and hours and hours.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Yeah, because it's it's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
A good conversation, but also just just laughing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
You know, laughter is great for the soul.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
I'll tell you that I loved everything we discussed, but
what I really enjoyed was the part where he talked
about and for people who didn't see it the podcast
he did and I can't remember the name of it,
but when he got very emotional talking about how he
would never cheat on his wife and how great she

(01:04:54):
is and just all the things. And I just like,
man man period, don't like to show that side, but.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
A black man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Like, yeah, they're they're They're absolutely not going to allow
you to see them get emotional. But a great conversation.
And keV, you can come on here. You can come
on here and do a set any time.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
You on anytime.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
And the one thing I forgot to teach him about,
which he figured out along the way, But the one
thing I forgot to teach him about is he was
I forgot what he was on. And he has said
something about I feel like all I know is Delta's.
I know so many Deltas, and I'm meant to be like, well, today,
you just spent the last hour, so get your.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
Ship to the next time, not one, but two.

Speaker 6 (01:05:43):
Okay, so that's the one thing I forgot to tease
him about.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
But we gonna get you next time, Cavs. Well anyway,
so thank you, keV.

Speaker 6 (01:05:56):
We're gonna definitely hopefully we can catch him at the
finals at some point, because I'm sure he might pop
up to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Wherever it may be.

Speaker 6 (01:06:04):
But with that being said, Cheryl, let's go ahead and
be leveled up by you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
What do you have for us today?

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
This is well, you know, I mean, we had keV on,
so we got to talk about laughter. Yes, and I
found this and I thought it was very fitting. And
it says laughter is like a wind show wiper. It
doesn't stop the rain, but allows us to keep going.

Speaker 6 (01:06:29):
Yes, that is an And the week of Jimmy Kimmel
being canceled and brought back, and the week of just
so many things that have tried to steal people's joy,
that is an incredible word.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
Yeah, just everything we're dealing with and going through right now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Like we gotta, we gotta have to y'all just keep
that in mind just one more time, because I want
to do like this laughter is like a wind show wiper.
It doesn't stop the rain, but allows us to keep going. Y'all,
keep going, keep.

Speaker 6 (01:07:04):
That that's right, keep pushing and keep listening to levels
to this. Thank you guys so much for just continuing
to rock with us. I want to say last episode
was our fiftieth episode. Like seriously, if you tuned in
to the episode that we had with Sharna, that was
our fiftieth episode. So we are out here doing it

(01:07:26):
and we appreciate you guys continuing to rock with us.
So we will be back next week with more next
level conversations just about the real shit that we go
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(01:07:46):
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Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
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