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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Alright, let me talk about talk. Here we go. He said,
you live in life pas a ringo where you question
where you fit in every time you mingle, they say
you do this with not that this life ingo. Yes, hello,
and welcome to another episode of Life as a Gringo.
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I am dramas of course, and it is Thursday, so
that means it's time for get this. I can't believe
these words are about to come out of my mouth,
but our last ever Thursday trends. Let that sink in
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as I say these words. And it's funny because you know,
I guess a little anecdote here. I have like senioritists
with the podcast right now. I'm not gonna lie to you.
I'm like, you know, when you are senior in high
school or college and you're gonna you're kind of just like, dude,
you know, great times, I'm gonna miss so many of you,
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but also like I'm fucking just antsy for what's next, right,
And I have a bit of that. So I love
kind of like saying those statements, particularly out loud, and
it makes me sort of come to the present moment
a bit more and have to actually like really ingest
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what that means the last ever Thursday Trends. And it's
funny because when we started the podcast, when I initially
pitched it, it was a once a week podcast and
I promise we get some stories, but it was a
once a week podcast. And then they came back and
basically were like, how would you feel about doing it
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twice a week? And I was like, yeah, of course,
Like it was. It was odd to me having worked
in radio, where you are working generally if you're on
air probably like depending on the radio station, but you
could be doing like six days a week, you know,
five to six days a week. So it's crazy to
me to think, like, you guys are paying me a
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salary and I'm just doing one episode a week, which
obviously there's prep. It's it's a little more involved than
just showing up and doing your daily radio show. But yeah,
it wasn't a big deal to me, and I think
initially I wasn't even it wasn't even Thursday Trends. It
was just kind of like, yeah, you know, lesson as
we lesson as we do here, you know, or what
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the fuck? I was just trying to stay with that
stayment a lesson like we like to do here is
I had no idea what the fuck I would have
done with the second day, right, they were kind of like,
what's the what's the concept for the second Day, And
I was like, I'll do something different so it's not
the same as the Tuesday episodes. It doesn't become redundant
for both myself and and you guys listening at home.
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So I was like, oh, I'll do like I'll use
like inspiration from a trending topic, and I'll do a
bit of a deep dive even if you listen, I
think to the first couple episodes. I want to say,
those Thursday episodes in season one, I didn't do like
where I'm hitting a bunch of different stories and actually
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shout out to my guys at The Daily Zeitgeist, a
really dope podcast that I had started working with them
as a producer at the time, and they would hit
a lot of like, you know whatever stories, but they
also would do like a Twitter whatever's trending on Twitter,
like daily podcasts, like a mini podcast, and I was like, oh,
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that's like far more interesting to like not just harp
on one story and try to make it deeper than
it might be, but like you know, hitting a bunch
of topics, and that allows me to scratch the itch
that I have for politics and everything. You know. At
the time, I think I was also doing the TV show,
So I was already My TV show was The Recap,
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and it was me recapping, treading stories from the week.
So yeah, I didn't steal that idea for daily. I
guess I was already doing it, but I guess they
were like the motivation for me to put it into
podcast form and also more inside baseball. At that time,
I did have a lot on my play. I was
doing the weekly television show, which I filmed and produced myself,
and that's the only thing I didn't do was send
out I'm soor. The only thing I didn't do was
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edit the video. But I researched, book guests, did the topics,
filmed it myself in originally my dining room of my
old apartment and then in the extra bedroom that became
my studio. So I was already doing that show and
that was once a week. But again it's a lot
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of prep work, booking guests every week because that show
had a weekly guest and doing you know, all these stories,
and you know, I subscribed to the work smarter, not harder, ideal.
I hope this doesn't cheapen anything for anybody, but I
was like, if I'm already doing you know, because at
the time, like five people watch that television show really,
so you know, I was kind of like, I'm already
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doing a lot of research on these topics that I
already find interesting. Why not incorporate that into the podcast
and make my life a little bit easier. But at
the same time, give me a outlet a formula that
is not doesn't have the criteria of TV right Because
the TV show it had to be timed out to
like twenty something minutes, so there was a lot of
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cutting as far as the interviews would go to cut
down time, and I would hit these topics very quickly.
So with the podcast, it gave me the opportunity to
really just deep dive into things. And I'm rambling right now,
but I'm just going down memory lane a little bit.
Apologies if this is just not interesting to you whatsoever.
But anyway, Yeah, that's the origins of Thursday Trends, and
I think the lesson I'm trying to point out and
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why I think it's important and it's a reminder of
myself moving forward is like, you don't have to have
everything figured out in order for you to start. And
that's me saying that with a contract signed by arguably
the largest audio company in the entire world, a team
that is like they're like, Okay, what do you you know?
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I have to like check in with people to a
degree as far as plans for the podcast, especially in
the early stages where I'm one of two podcasts launching
for this new network, so they're really hands on with
me at the time, you know, to try to ensure
a successful launch. So they kind of really are like,
what do you do with? What topics are you talking about?
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Right in those days, I would send it ahead of time,
and really it wasn't as you know, off the cuff
as it is now, which I hated that part like that,
I like, I was like, I don't know how'm gonna
be feeling in three four weeks. I might want to
talk about something completely different. You guys are boxing me
in to have to talk about something that's relevant to
me now. But anyway, so that time period, you know,
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I was still figuring it out on the fly, and
now I wasn't necessarily admitting that to the powers that
I would give off a a face of somebody who
had it all figured out. But I was figuring it
out on the fly and making adjustments as needed. You know,
even after we already launched the podcast and after you know,
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we had gotten placements from Apple Podcasts. We were on
the front page for like a couple of months or
whatever it was, and like all these different places. So
even amidst you know, sort of the launching point and
having to have everything figured out quote unquote, I still
was figuring it out on the fly. So I want
that to be a lesson of like, you know, sometimes
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you just have to go and even in an environment
where I'm working with the team and I have this
big you know, of a company that's gigantic behind me,
I still was figuring sit out on the fly. And
that's okay, And that's a part of the process, right.
I think a lot of people think they have to
have it all figured out before they e would start,
And even me, who was getting paid to do it,
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was still figuring it out as I want to long, right,
So I think that's an important lesson. Now, with that said,
trending stories, right, and I think for our last our
last Thursday, Trends of Life is a going go wherever
I really should say, I'm just gonna do positive stories.
I'm not gonna, you know, dive into the negative ship
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that brings everybody down. I want to end out some
positivity as far as the podcast goes and just have
a little fun. I almost was like, fuck it, I'm
not doing any training stories. But if anybody's a fan
of the training stories, I didn't want to take that
away from you one last time. So yeah, we're just
gonna do one long me hint segment of positive stories.
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Let's get into it, all right, So we'll start in politics.
I feel like I said, always start good news. George Santos,
I don't know if you remember him. He's the uh,
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disgraced politician from Long Island that was essentially, you know,
big big Donald Trump guy, then kicked out of Congress
and then was brought up on charges of fraud. He's
not been sentenced to eighty seven months in prison, and
literally he's the only person who's surprised by it. So
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he is somebody who lied about so many different things
from his backstory in so many different ways. But he
is also somebody who used campaign money for all types
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of crazy shit, and he apparently, you know, like he's done.
He like claims to be Jewish without actually being Jewish,
Like there's all types of I think he claims his
parents were dead or they were so it's all kinds
of crazy shit. Right, And ironically, amongst all of this
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where it's like, yeah, this guy is just a fucking fraud,
it took three votes for them to successfully expel him
from Congress, right, they the Republicans still didn't want to
back that, and one hundred and fourteen votes against him
being expelled two people voting presents, so they didn't even
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want to, Like, that's how loyal they are to the
Republican Party over the people that they're supposed to be representing.
That this guy was literally stealing campaign funds money donated
from voters, and they still wanted to keep him in
Congress because he was a Republican. Right, And apparently he
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used in the discovery, they found out that he used
campaign funds for only fans, subscriptions, vacations, luxury goods, and
cosmetic procedures. So in a world where people like Donald
Trump are convicted felons, but still become president. At least
there is some sort of justice here, as George Santos
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got eighty seven months in prison. Thank god, there's some
sort of justice here. Moving on, and actually, I just dropped,
for fun some hats on my website, dramas dot Com.
I know have a very diverse audience, so this is unfortunately.
You're probably only go to have interest if you're of
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Puerto Rican descent. But I was at a for some reasons.
For no reason, I was at a Mets game. Well,
my friends are Mets and Phillies fans. They're playing, so
I just went on to be social anyway. The Mets
had just dropped a collab with this company called New
York or Nowhere, and I saw a bunch of people
wearing it and I was like, oh that's I love that.
I love that concept. I was like, and it got
me thinking, like, oh, want there's gotta be like a
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Puerto Rico or nowhere, So I googled it. There wasn't,
so I for fun made these hats that just say
Puerto Rico Nowhere, and like, I love like because they're subtle.
I feel like a lot of a lot of Puerto
Rican merchandise and I love it for that, but it's
hard to wear on a daily basis because it's so
fucking loud, which is obviously half the point. But I
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was like, how cool is that to just have like
an understated, cool hat that I could wear daily. I
like wear suits, but I like wear hats as well.
And yeah, so I was like, oh, yeah, I would
love to get a hat like this that's simple and
just has a statement that I like. And yeah, there
wasn't a Puerto Rico Nowhere, so I just made it myself.
And I had been wearing it around like randomly when
i'd go out last week or so, and I had
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some people asking me like, oh, where'd you get that
hat from? And I couldn't. I was like, oh, I
just made it one off thing. Sorry. So I was like,
you know what, I should just make these hats for fun,
and we did dramas dot Com Get your Puerto Rico
or Nowhere hats cool that classic two tone baseball hats.
It's like beije and black black, Brian beige beige cap
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if you will. I liked it. I enjoyed it. I
think it's classy while still making a statement. So if
you're into that, hey, pick it up dramas dot Com
shameless plug. I also have a picture of it on Instagram.
I want to check it out at DJ Dramas anyway,
And they're pre orders, by the way, so bear with me.
I'm taking pre orders right now and then those ship
in like four weeks. But speaking of Puerto Rico, you
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have bad Bunny. And I'm correcting myself, by the way,
it's not code switching. I was saying Puerto Rico before,
but I'm trying to ingrain in my mind to say
Puerto Rico instead of Puerto Rico. Anyway, speaking a Puto Rico,
you have bad Bunny. Two things actually Bad Bunny obviously
Thursday trends. Last one, I gotta show some love to
my man. Bad Bunny gone home model. But he was
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at the met Gallo, which I really don't give a
fuck about whatsoever. I know that I think it's like
a charitable thing, but it's also just like I have
to meet I don't know, a display of like excess
and some of the worst things that come from the
idea of celebrity. But Bad Bunny was there and he
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actually wore a he metal hat. If I'm not mistaken.
It was custom made by Prada, some high end ship,
but it was. It was dope to see him staying
in I don't want to say character, but staying in
theme of the ultra like Puerto Rico every man type
of thing. Even there. I mean, obviously he's wearing an
incredible suit that's beautiful, and I'm sure that he metal
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hat is you know, has a crazy price tag if
you were to buy it. But I love that he
brought that to this event and the red carpet and
like the beauty of it. If I could find a
silver lining into finding meaning here he by wearing that hat,
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you actually had people asking him like, oh, tell us
about the hat, and that then allows him the opening
to explain how it's a part of Puerto Rican culture
and history and the hebet it then has the Internet
talking all about it and people are now getting educated.
And that's again the beauty that moments like this could
have when people choose to use their platform for good. Now.
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Aside from his fashion, he also announced his world tour.
I don't I have a problem saying this phrase his
upcoming debt, Thia Masfotos de Thia mas Fotos. I feel
like that's a mouthful. Thebe Fiaada Mas Fotos World Tour
was announced twenty stops in twenty countries. I'm sorry, stops
in twenty countries, and some people are also pissed off
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because he left out the United States. So for now,
anybody from the US who wants to see him has
to fly to one of these countries or more realistically,
fly to Puerto Rico over the summer to catch his
residency over there. And people are kind of celebrating that
as like him taking a stand and kind of saying
like he made an album all about Puerto Rican culture and
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how colonialism is destroying the island. Of course, he can't
tour then the US after that. I mean he might eventually,
but anyway, he's going all over the world and the
beauty of it. He just looked. Literally today the tickets
went out on sale and many of them actually sold
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out in minutes. They're saying, tickets in crazy. This is
what's awesome to me, this is what's amazing. Right, So
countries like Poland, Germany, Belgium, Brazil, Sweden, and Australia all
sold out, like within minutes. In Poland, they're saying it
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was sold out in twenty four minutes. I want to
saw to grasp how wild that is. A man whose
music is only in Spanish sold out in twenty four minutes,
tickets at an arena in Poland and Australia and Sweden
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and Germany like, And I want to beat this into
the ground before I leave you an end. Don't talk
about Bad Bunny on a weekly basis. The magnitude of this,
of being yourself authentically putting on for your community, and
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how the common thought, the common narrative many of us
have been brought up with, and you think particularly the
entertainment industry, but I think this applies to everyday fucking life.
The idea that if you're being authentically you and unapologetically
being unafraid to be an outsider generally historically people would
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say that's a recipe for you to not find success.
They would try and you conform in some sort of way. Right,
you have to give up a part of yourself to
find success. And the beauty of somebody like Bad Bunny
completely exploding and imploding that entire concept. I think I
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can't speak about how huge that is and how incredibly
inspiring that is, or should be because it means you
and I don't have to conform regard outside of even culture,
just as a human being, whatever interests us, whatever we're
naturally drawn to, who we naturally beautifully are, We don't
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have to conform or hide ourselves in order to find success.
And that's why I keep bringing up somebody like bad Bunny,
and I bring up these stories repeatedly because it's a
constant reminder, constant reminder that we don't have to change
who we are in order to find our tribe, our place,
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and the success that we dream about. It's insane. A
kid from a tiny town in a tiny island in
the Caribbean who just learned English like yesterday, is selling
out tickets in places like Poland, Germany, Belgium, Sweden and Australia.
Like take that in, absolute insanity and beautiful and inspiring
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on so many fucking levels. Love that. Now, with that said,
we'll take a quick break here and then we'll be
right back. All right, we are back, And I saw
it's really beautiful article on Mother's Day is coming up
this weekend, and we Army two had this article called
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Moms Who Raised Dreamers, How Latino moms inspired us to
shine right, and they reference things like always have balanced
speech at the oscars. And this is primarily talking to
women and the mother daughter relationship, but I think it
applies for all of us. And listen, I know we
all have all have experiences that may vary, and maybe
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some of us are not fortunate enough to have had
a positive relationship or experience with our parents. And I
want to be sensitive to that, and I would encourage you, like,
do while we have this conversation to like, if you
do choose to become a parent, a mother, or you
are one, allow it to speak to you in that
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sense about how you want to do things differently. But
I guess speaking from my own personal experience, man, And
I don't give her the credit because I don't think
I recognized it, you know, until really recently. But so
much of my strength and resilience comes from my mother.
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And it's really clear to me now, I think, having
had to put that strength and resilience to the test
over the last year or so. But I'm my mother's
son for sure. You know. The thing I grew up
kind of like a spinning image of my father, like
even in my twenties, like they're pictures of my father
in his twenties, and it's scary how much we look alike,
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even the same like build and everything, you know, and
I definitely like got a lot of his personality, I
feel like, and I think the things that I got
from my mother are these more unspoken things, you know,
I think just my proxy of looking like him and
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having my middle name be his his actual name. I
think it. The common narrative was like, I'm, you know,
my father to a t, right. I never very much
so am, but I do think about all that my
mom bared on her shoulders, you know, and didn't complain,
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And you know, I wish she did. I wish she made,
you know, held us accountable for maybe some of the
lack of support we gave her. But you know, I
think so much of my tenacity and my strength is
really a testament to that woman, you know, the woman
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that I'm lucky enough to call my mother. And even
you know, as as an adult, you know, I've been
blessed at my parents are still here. We have a
great relationship, and we've really built up I feel like,
you know, there really are like, you know, my best friends.
I really do feel like that, and I'm not somebody
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who's you know, I have struggle opening up sometimes, but
I have to say, you know, they've really proven me
wrong in the last couple of years in terms of
me thinking I was alone with a lot of the
things I was struggling with, or that I had to
go about it alone, or that they would never be
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able to provide me the support that I needed, like emotionally.
And what I've recognized is the more I've let them
in and sort of shared my struggles, They've stepped up
every bit of the way. And you know, it's not
all as easy as but we butt heads, but they
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really have been there for me and been a beautiful
support system. And particularly when I think about my mom,
you know, to a fault and probably to an unhealthy manner,
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my mom always puts us first and it's always been
so good to us, you know, talk about my sister,
and my father is included in that, you know, And
and we don't give her the credit that is due,
you know. And again, as I reflect, I'm like the
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man I've become, I have so much to be grateful for,
as far as lessons I learned from my mom, you know,
and the that strength that I learned from her is
you know, so much of why I've achieved so much
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of what I've been blessed to do. That tenacity is
so much her, you know, like she's a hustler, always
finds a way to fucking figure it out, and like
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I got that from her, you know, So I just
wanted to, you know, I want to celebrate her, you know,
I think, and you know, I think, Uh, they touch
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on a lot of different things. Some of it is
in fact more geared towards women, but they taught they
have one thing, I say, hard work pays off, right,
And they talk about how Latin moms were always pushing
us to work hard and go after what we want
and persevere. Obviously I think to it extent, but uh,
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you know, as far as like understanding you know, what
it is that I wanted to do. But I don't know, man,
I think, like recently, I can I think about moments
where I was like defeated and I was just like fuck,
like talking to my parents and kind of just like
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I don't know how, like how I'm gonna bounce back
from this, right, Like, I don't know how I'm going
to figure this next thing out I got another not
that just broke my heart, like how much more of
this shit can I take? And while they've both been
extremely supportive and trying to help me out, you know,
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and be there for me, my mom is the one
who was just like, you know, ah, it's gonna work out,
like she like, ironically, as much as I felt like
they didn't support me when I was younger, now they've
become like my biggest believers in fans. And my mom's
voice specifically is like in my head, like, you know, well,
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you just got to keep going. It's going to work out,
even like, you know, when I bought my first property,
we had a lot of issues because I was trying
to use a FAHA loan, which is the first time
at home buyers loan. But I was trying to buy
a mixed use building, which is commercial and residential, meaning
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the building has had both a storefront as well as
a living portions and in order to you can you
can get that type of property, but there's like different
stipulations and the main one we were running do an
issue was like the residential has to be bigger than
the commercial space, and in this property, they were almost
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the same like it was like debatable, and originally, even
on the even on the paperwork you get from the
realtor when you come to see a property, they originally
had the commercial space listed at like whatever, fifty square
feet bigger than the residential And so my heart was
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broken because my bank came back and was like, hey, like,
we can't approve if this property because it doesn't meet
the criteria. And I was so bubb because I was like, dude,
this is like everything's going crazy with the market now.
This is the price I could afford and it's an
investment property, which is what I want. And I remember
being so depressed, like because I was so excited we
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had just saw it and like I was like, yes,
this is exactly what I wanted. And then I was
so bummed when I talked to my bank about it,
And it was my mom who ended up calling me
and was like, why don't you give the real chor
call and just for the hell of it, had him
confirm those numbers. And I remember just sort of brushing
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her off at the time, like all right, mom, whatever,
Like I get I know you're trying to like cheer
me up, and we're trying to do whatever, but like
and she like was like, no, make sure you call,
because I might normally be like all right and not
do it right, a typical kid who thinks he knows more.
And then so I begrudgingly call the real term and
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I tell him the issue running into with the bank,
and he's like, no, the it's close, but the residential
is definitely bigger than the commercial space. And I brought
up like, oh, well, in the listings it's He's like, oh,
the numbers might might be backwards. I think that's an error,
but I'm familiar with the property and I can tell
you that the residential is in fact bigger than the commercial.
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And again, I wouldn't have pushed and like squeezed out
every last bit of option. I would have just given
up at a frustration at that point, right, And I
wouldn't have had the proper that end up having it
that has yielded me so much. So I guess I
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say all that to say that like that is I
think a perfect summary of my mom's attitude of kind
of like, let's just try one more thing. We have
nothing to lose, let's just write and and there are
so many moments in my life and my career where
that mindset or that extra one thing that you're trying
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ends up being the one little thing you needed to
actually make something happen. And had you have not tried
it and just given up, you would have lost out
on the beautiful opportunity that you now have. And again,
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that's so much. I think what I could attribute to
my success is like that I just relentlessly didn't take
no for an answer. It's so many times, you know,
so many times and places in my life. That's why
I have been able to have you know, certain things happen.
And as I reflect on, I'm like, do that is
something you got from your fucking mother. So I share
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that story, you know, as a Mother's Day way of
celebrating our moms, and I just think it's it's beautiful.
So yeah, that's it. That's our positive you know stories,
our Thursday trends. One last time, and we'll tie it
all together in a neat little bow in a segment
called conclusions Do. But first we'll take a quick break
and they'll be right back time. Come all right, man,
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it's it's crazy to think one last time conclusions do
for Thursday Trends and then We have obviously one more
episode on Tuesday, that's the last official episode and then,
like I said, I have bonus episode of planned. But yeah,
we'll run through the stories first. Great to see George Santos, uh,
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you know, being held accountable. Great to know that you know, uh,
people are not above the law, and that he's gonna
be sitting in jail thinking about all the people who
he robbed and defrauded. And I do this guy had
his own fucking podcast racient like like it's just crazy, man,
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Like these people have no shame whatsoever. It's the guy
from fire Festival, like what the fuck, Like, you know
you have to and even that guy with jail apparently
came back with no shame. But it's just, you know,
it's crazy. So thank god that some sort of justice again.
Shout out bad Bunny, the tour, the heab, I don't
hat on the red carpet of the met I mean, dude,
it's like it's just a fucking inspiration and I can't
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say it enough, regardless of what you think about his music. Great,
Like I'm not I'm not trying to come out here
like a super fan. I'm just trying to be like dude,
if this guy can do it, and granted, he's incredibly
talented and good at what he does, but we all
are incredibly talented and good at something, and if we
are in alignment with that, there's no boundary as to
what we can do. And even again, this podcast has
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started off the basis of fucking identity, finding comfort in
who we are and our otherness. And this man took
his otherness and became the world's biggest artist with it,
unapologetically without changing who he is again selling out places
like Sweden and fucking Germany and Poland those aren't Spanish
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speaking countries. His music is all in Spanish. That is insanity.
Like I can't stress that, it's fucking insanity. So just
an incredible and beautiful moment. Love to see it. I'm
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inspired by it. I hope all of you are as well,
and I'm in Shout out to all the moms out
there for Mother's Day, your mom, if you're a mom,
if your mom, shout out to you. Shout out to
your mom as well, and all the future moms and
parents out there. Shout out to my mom. I love
you so much. Nancy will shout out by name you
the best, and I have so much to thank you
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for for you know, the tenacity you've taught me, and
I appreciate you and I love you. Just yeah, yeah.
With that said, y'all, that's that's the last Thursday Trends
ever for life as a thing go crazy. I'm not
gonna get sappy and like extend this ending longer it
needs to be. I think Tuesday will be this happiness.
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But thank y'all, I mean in advance those of you
who have been tuning in and listening to these episodes
and getting something out of them. I'm so grateful that
you provided me the opportunity to have a voice. And
I'm very proud of the fact that in some small
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way I maybe helped people feel seen, or provided some
sort of release, or boosted your day in some sort
of small way whenever you listen to the show. I'm
forever grateful of the idea that I had any sort
of impact on you whatsoever, and I'm grateful for that
the opportunity have done so and I'm not that's not
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lost on me. So thank you so much. So one
last time. That's our Thursday Trends again. Tuesday will be
our last episode for Life as a Gringo. Until then,
stay safe and we'll talk soon ish. Life as a
Greeno is a production of the micro Thura podcast network
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and iHeartRadio