August 19, 2025 • 29 mins
Decades after his shocking murder, Alan Berg was mostly forgotten, even among the people of Denver who had fallen in love with his radio show. That tide turned in 2022 when the Denver Press Club finally inducted him into their Hall of Fame. But what took so long? And what could Alan Berg have become had his life not ended so tragically and so abruptly? All that and more is explored in our final episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Live Wire is a production of iHeart Podcasts and Modulator Media.
Previously on live Wire. The Loud Life and shocking Murder
of alan Burg.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Twenty three members of the extrema group known as the
Order are accused of murders, armed robbery, counterbidding, and an
ardent attempt at an x Vated theater in Seattle, all
to further their message of hate. The underground network came
to light after a fiery shootout on whit The Island
in Washington, Fate in which leader Robert Matthews were killed.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
They were members of the Order who had turned state's
evidence and became witnesses for the prosecution. And we divided
those up, and so I had some of those, and
so did all of the other members of our team.
And then most of the people were eyewitnesses, the Brinks drivers,
people along the road who had seen them, alan Berg's wife,
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I believe testified, and other people who were privy to
the alan Berg murder.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
There was a lady by the name of King Craig
who was closely affiliated to Robert Matthews, and she went
to Denver weeks before the assassination and did a very
thorough job of identifying alan Berg, his friend, his associates's.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Activities on a daily basis. She followed him and surveilled
him and knew exactly where he worked, toward his residence,
was when he generally got home from work, what he
did in terms of any recreational activity, and provided all
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that information to the assassination group.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
We later learned that the radio station itself had been
cased by Gene Craig, who had posed as a prize
winner and apparently had been escorted around the station. So
the thought that these killers had actually been in our
midst was scary.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
And then it was at the end of December. There
was a period of time when the jury was deliberating,
and it was about four or five days, I think,
and then finally they announced that they had reached a verdict,
and we all came back to court and we listened
to the verdict and everyone was found guilty and the
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trial was over.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
By nineteen eighty seven, each of the individuals behind Alanberg's
shocking assassination were either dead or in prison. That fact
brought some measure of closure to the numerous people who
are still grieving the popular Denver radio host's violent death.
As many listeners and admirers, the colleagues who so greatly
respected alan and everything he stood for. All of them
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could continue mourning knowing that the dangerous people behind this
crime were off the street. It wasn't true justice, after all,
the Denver District Attorney's office never did file murder charges.
But everyone who knew and loved Alan Berg, even some
of the people who hated Alan Berg, could rest somewhat
at ease knowing that local and federal investigators had worked
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in tandem to track down Berg's killers. And with that
came the perfect opportunity to honor Burgh's death by commemorating
his remarkable life, particularly his massive contribution to Denver media.
But instead of this well earned memorialization of Berg and
his work came and nothing at all for years. Then
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finally in twenty twenty.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Two, if everybody wanted to start moving to their seats,
we're going to get started here in a minute.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's October eighth, twenty twenty two, and a who's who
of local media and Denver have decended on the Sinesta
Hotel in downtown Denver. About a dozen tables are laid
out in a hotel ballroom with a small stage placed
near the center of the room. The Denver Press Club
has invited everyone for its Hall of Fame induction ceremony,
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an event the organization hasn't hosted since twenty nineteen because
of COVID. This year's inductees include Denver Post journalist Sandra Dillard,
local news anchor Kathy Walsh, longtime columnist Mike Litwin, Denver
Urban Spectrum founder Rosalind Harris, and almost four decades after
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his death, Alan Burke.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
My name is Skyler McKinley.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
I am thrilled to serve on the Denver Press Club
Board of Directors as treasurer. I'm admittedly a little less
thrilled to announce that I'll be your MC tonight. I'm
so grateful we'll be inducting Alan Burke tonight. As a
student of Colorado history, I've always found burg to be
one of our states' most compelling, most important, least discus
us figures. As it happens, I used to live about
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a block from Alan's house, and I'd walk by that
sad monument to that great man almost daily. I would
share Alan's story to anyone who was with me on
one of those walks, and I mean anyone, including very
recently a Peloton delivery person parked in that very driveway
who promptly and in a very concerned tone asked me
to leave them alone.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It's a nice evening and a pleasant acknowledgment for each
of the nights on our Ease, Berg's friends and colleagues,
Peter Boyles and Susan Ryman speak to those in attendance,
along with longtime journalists and current city councilman Kevin Flynn.
Flynn even wrote a book about the Order with his
co writer Gary Gerhardt that was entitled The Silent Brotherhood,
which was adapted into a film about the Order that
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opened in theaters last year. Here are some of Susan
Ryman and Peter Boyle's heartfelt comments from the Big Night.
Speaker 8 (05:53):
You know, Allan was just a magic on earth. He
just knew what topic people wanted to talk about. They
simply know. It's almost like they were sitting in a
restaurant and they were listening to what the people were
talking about at the other table, and then they'd come
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back into work and they'd go on the air and
that's what they talk about. Because their job is simply
keep that audience to idiot.
Speaker 9 (06:21):
He never got up. He never could make an early show,
and so he always had afternoons or mid mornings Gate
and he always had these crazy cars like Bricklands and
the Lareans and just nonsensemobiles. And when we were busy,
he had the Laurean, but the door wouldn't open, so
he would pull in the alley, blow the horn, and
a board off would go out and open the door
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seat and get out.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
And we're able to honor Alan Bert tonight because of
Peter Boyle's tireless commitment to making sure that generations of
Coloraden's know why bird mattered. About a year ago, my
friend and Lakewood mare Adam Paul heard Peter talking on
his radio show about the fact that Alan wasn't in
our Hall of fame. Had him texted me? He texted
me immediately, and because of him, Peter, Kevin Flynn and
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executive director Albi Siegel's work were able to honor Allenburg tonight.
Speaker 9 (07:13):
They've denied the guy I mean, and I finally went,
there's a guy named Dean Singleton who owned the Denver
Post and we're dear, dear friends. He he's an MS
and this is he's my Rabbi. I talked to Dean
about everything, and I so Dean's going in the hall.
This is like four years ago, and he's in a chair.
This is a remarkable man. And so I go to
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the Press Club and I really stay away from these people.
And so this board is there, and I want, can
I ask you something because I'm you know, I'm on
an up And I said, why isn't he here? Well,
they start double clutching me. I said, no, the guy
killed for what he did. You should have him in
your hall of fame. And I get these guys and said,
you don't have ab in here. Tell what's wrong with you?
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And then kind of looking at each other, I said,
are you afraid of him?
Speaker 10 (07:57):
What are you afraid of?
Speaker 9 (07:58):
The guy was murdered for what we do for a
lima and he's not in your Hall of Fame. And
he's not in the press club hall of fame, he's
not marked in the city. And I don't care about me,
I care about him. I mean, I'm just some other
idiot that did a radio show. But this guy, it's
a different boogie.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I'm journalist and filmmaker Talkonschewski And this is episode ten
honoring alan There are plenty of phrases you could use
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to describe alan Berg's posthumous induction into the Denver Press
Club Hall of Fame, but foremost among them would have
to be long overdue.
Speaker 9 (08:48):
So what happened?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Why did it take so long for anyone in Denver
to submit the awesome legacy of this important figure in
the city's history with any sort of grand gesture. Former
colleagues Lori Cantillo and Don Hartenoff well on k Away.
Speaker 11 (09:04):
We did produce anniversary broadcasts. I believe there was a
tenth anniversary a show of his death. I agree that
it's crazy that it took what forty years to be
recognized by the Colorado Broadcast Hall of Fame.
Speaker 12 (09:22):
He was a rebel, you know, he didn't he didn't
kiss all the behinds of all the people that were
involved in it, and so yeah, it took a while
for him to to get that recognition. I don't I
don't know what they're you know, the Colorado Broadcasters, they
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should have they should have put him in a few
years after they murdered. But you know, that's just the
way it moves sometimes, right.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Of course, Allenberg's story is inevitably tied to the Order,
an organization that has since inspired a number of books
and films telling its story. So while alan Berg's legacy
is still being secured decades later, the Order's legacy has
been cemented for some time.
Speaker 11 (10:11):
Until Alan's death, I did not know the extent of
white supremacy in America, and I think many of us
made the mistake of assuming that when Barack Obama was
elected president, that we had set all of that aside.
But now we know better. We know that with the
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election of Donald Trump, that those who are on the
far right felt empowered. January sixth happened, and those attitudes
are alive and well today, unfortunately, to the detriment of
our country and the world. Really, I do find myself
wondering what would Alan be thinking about what's happening in
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our country today, And I do his voice because he
was always there, you know, fighting for those who had
no voice, who had been marginalized in our society. It's
more of a threat today than it was then.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Sadly, Lori Cantillo makes a good point when it comes
to domestic terrorism, it does appear that groups are largely
emulating organizations like the order. According to a twenty twenty
four research project funded by the National Institute of Justice,
far right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides
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than far left or radical Islamist extremists since nineteen ninety.
The study counts two hundred and twenty seven such attacks,
leading to more than five hundred and twenty deaths.
Speaker 13 (11:46):
I have sayan things in my life, and I have
a couple of times really thought I was singing UFO.
So I'm not discounting the possiblit of UFO.
Speaker 10 (11:51):
Did you really?
Speaker 9 (11:52):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (11:52):
No question, No, I really had it.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Lop.
Speaker 13 (11:54):
What I'm doing research like a huge bagel. It was
a huge bagel. Right in the middle is hello, you're
a Jewish person. We're going to have it right now.
This is true with it, I was going the big
delegatests in this guy well where.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
By the time of his death in nineteen eighty four,
alan Berg had truly enraptured the city of Denver. He
was a radio institution by then, his face appearing on
numerous billboards around the city. But this star was beginning
to shine outside Denver as well, especially after he was
featured in a sixty minute segment about the shock jock
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phenomenon that had taken over mainstream radio.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You say yourself, you often go on there, you don't
know quite what you're gonna say.
Speaker 13 (12:37):
Hopefully my legal training will prevent me from saying the
one thing that will kill me, and I've come awfully close.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So it's natural to wonder. With his reach expanding with
each passing day, his influence growing more and more, have
the Order not hunted down alan Berg? Have they not
silenced him forever for being so outspoken? Where would his
career and you have taken him? Here are Rhyman and Heartsnoff,
followed by former KOA station manager Lee Larson.
Speaker 8 (13:07):
He would be syndicated today. I would have followed him anywhere.
I would have had so much pleasure of producing his
show and just watching his mind work. And most of
the time I just shake my head and think, why
didn't I think of that? That's crazy, that's crazy smart radio.
But yeah, he haunts me. He's with me every day.
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I don't think there's a day that goes by I
don't think of Alanberg. It's just he's always there. We
were robbed, all.
Speaker 12 (13:39):
Of us, you know. Ten years later, the whole industry.
He'd have been he'd have been syndicated across the country,
I believe, on multiple multiple radio stations, because iHeart J
Corr came in and they bought multiple stations, and you know,
you'd have had burned doing shows around the country. I
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belief because he was he was that kind of he
would have refined his art to you know, be as
aggressive without without really irritating all the people just a
couple you know, you'd rEFInd it, I think. And because
he was very intelligent on his show and his delivery.
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He was very intelligent, and every time he'd comment generally
it made sense. You know, people like, you know he's right,
because he was a shrewd guy, smart, very smart. Yeah,
he was definitely missed. He was definitely missed. I left
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left KOA and out my own ad agency in ninety five,
So but he would have he would have been part
of the program, that's for sure. For a number of years,
it was really really sad, really sad.
Speaker 10 (15:00):
What could Alan have become. Well, he was murdered in
nineteen eighty four in the early years of talk radio,
when talk radio was still sort of figuring out what
it was going to be. About and I think with
Alan's natural instincts that had he not been murdered, he
would have gone on to be one of those talk
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hosts that would have been syndicated all over the country
because of the entertaining value of his show, the charismatic
personality that he could make come through the speaker on
a radio, I think he would have done very very well.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
You're the air, Yeah, why don't you you shut your
mouth and get off the air? Well?
Speaker 13 (15:43):
Why do you say that?
Speaker 14 (15:45):
I say it because you shouldn't be on there?
Speaker 13 (15:47):
Why shouldn't I be on you.
Speaker 14 (15:48):
Simply because I sit for a lot of other people.
Speaker 13 (15:51):
Gera a minute, you let me off.
Speaker 14 (15:53):
That's been your crouble. You shoot your mouth off?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And the other guy that calls in, Why don't you
say anything?
Speaker 13 (15:58):
Why don't shut up and go off? Why'd you a
dress just that we're talking about? Why ain't you case?
Speaker 9 (16:05):
She hung up?
Speaker 13 (16:05):
Good, good call. There you're in case.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Alan Berg may have been part of the first wave
of shock jocks who ultimately reshaped radio and provided a
template for all the digital media that would follow, but
even among his contemporaries in the nineteen eighties, he was
a true original his unique background as a lawyer, his
battle with seizures and alcoholism, his colorful personal life and
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numerous passions, the fact that he had seemingly lived multiple
lives before even contemplating a life in radio. Within the
group of bold voices who changed everything, he was an
original among originals, and that's probably why he was so
good at what he did.
Speaker 12 (16:45):
Everybody would love to emulate and be in Alan Berg,
but they nobody can quite get there, you know. And
they and maybe it was the times that allowed it,
you know, but nobody could really pull off even today,
what the charisma Berg had with the way he did
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the program, you know. I mean, you're right, they all
want to do it now, but you don't see him
anybody really doing it as well as Alan did.
Speaker 9 (17:17):
But he was unique. He was one of a kind.
It wasn't like somebody's going to come along and be
this flamethrower and hit people over the head like Alan.
There was only Allen.
Speaker 13 (17:25):
That was it.
Speaker 9 (17:26):
And my approach to the business is different, and other
people's approach to the business is different. But I understand
this guy's not school trained. He's not. He just knew
maybe he knew it as a defense attorney. I don't know.
Maybe you knew it as a Jewish kid growing up
in Chicago, and he and his father hated one another.
I don't know, but somewhere along the line, maybe gaining sobriety,
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I don't know, he saw it, and when he did,
he got it.
Speaker 14 (17:54):
Whatever happened to the alan Berg who specialized in peddling
pernography over the air, I have insulting elderly.
Speaker 13 (18:02):
Women, but let's explore that. I don't ever recall selling
pornography on the air, but you make care you might carry.
Speaker 14 (18:09):
Remind me, oh, well that was back in khal when
you had that Saturday or what night was it? You
had a dating program?
Speaker 13 (18:19):
I certainly had a dating show. I certainly did.
Speaker 14 (18:22):
And you'd ask such leading questions, and all of them were.
Speaker 13 (18:26):
Supposed to answer the men, give me, give me any was.
Speaker 14 (18:29):
Your most embarrassing sexual encounter?
Speaker 13 (18:32):
I think that's a very interesting question as a matter
of fact, And what was your best I happen to
specialize in it. I failed a lot, my dear, I
cant understand listening to your voices. Probably you've probably turned
on every man that's come near you. I turned I'm
an elder I imagine in your day, my dear, the
men were passionately aroused by the mere sight of your
body or parts of your body. If you ever, in
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fact it'd exposed it, I would guess that you were
probably a letty who might very well have kept your
clothes on.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
During You can't help but notice the irony here that
someone who was silenced so suddenly before being completely forgotten
has his fingerprints on so much of what we watch
and listen to today. It certainly helps that all of
the issues that Alan so passionately discussed on his show, race, sex, immigration,
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the welfare state, government waste, they're the same things we
are still all arguing about decades later. And Berg's cadence
and personality, really his entire approach to radio established a
tone that can be recognized everywhere from cable news to podcasts.
Speaker 11 (19:39):
What I learned most from Alan Berg as a radio
broadcaster was the power of one to one communication. So
the old style announcers used to broadcast ladies and gentlemen,
you know, here we are, and you're talking like you're
talking to a stadium full of people. Alan personalized radio.
He made you feel like he was talking to you
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and only you. In fact, I recall he said radio
is the last American neighborhood. It was a place where
you could, you know, cozy up on a barstool and
have a conversation with a friend, or you could talk
over the backyard fence like people used to do, or
sit on the front porch and have a conversation. And
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I often, as a program director later in my career,
would coach hosts much in that way and say, talk
to me as if you're talking to your best friend.
You know, don't be an announcer, don't try to have
a big male radio voice, but be authentic, be yourself,
make fun of yourself, laugh, self deprecation. There's nothing that
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will endear people to you more than self deprecation. And
Alan understood that he did not take himself too seriously.
He made fun of himself and laughed at himself all
the time. But it was his ability to communicate as
if you were the only person in the world that
really stays with me.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
For me, Alan was what makes talk radio, talk radio interesting, poignant, relevant,
what holds an audience to a radio station. Alan Berg,
I believe is one of the most brilliant talk shows
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that I ever had the pleasure of working with. He
taught me a lot about how to keep an audience
tuned in, how to keep them engaged, how to not
take them for granted, to treat them with respect, and
figure out what is going to keep them tuned into
this radio station. That's what we do every single day.
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You have to keep this audience engaged because it's all
about the money, and if you're not keeping them through that,
they're not buying anything. That's what Allen did. Kept them
through the break, keep them through that quarter hour. Make
sure that, because everything is built on quarter hours, you
have to get them through the commercial to the next break,
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and that goes over the quarter hour. He got it.
He got it, but he knew what made people listen.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I'm pretty upset about what the government is doing as
far as bringing in all the repugee.
Speaker 13 (22:25):
You know, like people by because they're showing a work
ethic that's better than most Americans. God bless them. Well, No,
I'll make a shake up and do something and work
and earn something and not want a free ride. Sweetheart,
wind what you're on KOA.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
In producing this ten episode arc outlining Ellen Bird's life
and death, I've consumed hours of archives from his time
on radio, and for me personally, I have to say that,
by far, the most compelling thing about all of this
is the extreme dichotomy between alan Berg the radio personality
and Alan Berg the person Those on air rantings of
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a bold, brash, overconfident, and overcaffeinated loudmouth. A lot of
it was a defense mechanism for a gentle and humble
man who spent the better part of his life absolutely
racked by insecurity.
Speaker 11 (23:19):
What people didn't know about alan Berg is that he
was humble, sensitive, I would say, somewhat of an introvert
actually if you were to meet him in person, and
this is true of many really talented radio hosts that
I've worked with, and also that he was outraged by
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injustice and really wanted to fight for the underdog. It's
too simplistic to say that alan was just mean and rude.
Many would say he had a heart of gold inside.
You know, he was all to teeth and fangs on
the outside, but inside he was a smellow I.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
Mean, his hands, his fingers were this long, his hair
was crazy, he had this jagged pock mark face. He
was tall, he was skinny, he was the not the
kind of man that you would be attracted to on
a physical level, but intellectually that man was attractive as
the kind of guy that you wanted to sit there
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and hopefully not have to get too engaged with him
on an intellectual level over lunch.
Speaker 14 (24:30):
But he was he was.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
He was funny, he was he was funny. But I
remember him as being kind. You know, I went through
some really tough times right through there, and he was
always so kind to me. He was always kind to me.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
During certain special moments on the air, allen Berg actually
let his guard down and exposed those insecurities.
Speaker 13 (24:52):
If it isn't a labor a level, I want to
vas a. Bob Hawks been a friend of mine for
a long time. And when I'm looking for shoes, and
when you're looking for shoes, if you don't shop j
both danger're missing the only hip shoe star in all
the state of Colorado. Now a lot of people say, what.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
Does the hip mean.
Speaker 13 (25:06):
Hip means it's the right shoe. It's the correct shoe
to wear. It's not some gimmicky dumb shoe.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
It doesn't hit.
Speaker 13 (25:11):
The brogues are out dummy, don't wear the brogues the
floorshine brogues, you know, the big clunky things the curl
up in the middle with the short socks. They'll even
say your long socks so your hairy legs won't hang
out there. And the girl looked down at you that
you're trying to pull around and say, anyway, the point
is he's got some groovy look at shoes. They will
improve your appearance considerably. That I wish he had a
shoe that cover my face will be a bat. And
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a lot of listeners said, you're not kidding turkey anyway,
but I love Bob Hockey. You're a terrific guy.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
No, I'm really bad at sex, Susan really bad at sex.
And I said, well, how do you determine that you
need to sit up? And I think it's because he
just didn't feel like he was attractive. I would a
woman want to make love to someone that unattractive.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Of all the friends and colleagues of Alan Berg who
contributed to this product, none has been more vehement in
their championing of Bergs legacy than Peter Boyles. Peter has
been a radio institution in Denver since the nineteen seventies
and can still be heard hosting his show on kN US.
He played a primary role in Berg's induction into the
Denver Press Club's Hall of Fame and continues to fight
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for Berg's memory.
Speaker 9 (26:20):
This is why I'm glad you're here. I want you here.
I want like I've struggled. Now he's going to go
in the Press Club Hall of Fame. There are some
people say, oh, we get him in a national Hall
of fame. Okay, that's great. I want to get the
city to Marcus death. They won't do it. I mean
I've tried, and of course it's me and the mayor
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and all the series of mirrors since have not been
my biggest fan, but that has nothing to do.
Speaker 10 (26:46):
I mean, we need.
Speaker 9 (26:49):
A marker, we need a plaque. There's nothing I feel like.
And the Godfather said, I find about Grain creating the city.
You know, I said, he created all this. There's not
a there's nothing about him. He's gone. And that's why
you guys have to do what you do. Because and
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I'm an old guy, and Lee's an old guy, as
Susan's old and we go that's it.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Naturally, we had to give Alan the final word in
all this, and considering the multitude of archives we uncovered
in researching this series. Picking just one clip proved difficult,
but we had to settle on one moment from his
final days at WBEAZ in Denver, when in an enthusiastic
caller pleaded with Alan to do what he did best.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And so I'll make it brief and leave, but do
me a bayrollen, And this is the last day on
the radio for you at BAS.
Speaker 13 (27:46):
You've never hung up on me before, but it told
me in an hang up on me. I just did
it before I did my thing. But you know, I'll
pay something my end my hang ups. Believe it or not.
If anybody could ever believe this, it was all men
hopefully to entertain. That was met seriously in a hope
of entertaining the people. It was not really because I
just simply and I'll say this going out and not
looking to save face, because I believe in everything I've
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ever done in talk radio. Some of the things that
I've made mistakes on no question, I made a filesand
mistakes in his business. And I'll tell you something, I
appreciate everybody that listened to me and shared in the
show with me.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Good guy, that guy a minute ago one last nime,
get out of here and it.
Speaker 10 (28:23):
Just play one on the berg, give them one.
Speaker 13 (28:25):
Okay, listen to you turkey, get out all right.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
No one isn't there today.
Speaker 13 (28:29):
Let me let me I tell your turkeys. That would
be absurd on a day like this, because all of
you made us a happening, and you made me a
happening for a lot of years, and you can't help
but love those people.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Thank you for listening to Live Wire the loud life
and shocking murder of Alan Burg. The series was produced
in memory of the late Stephen Singular and Judith Burg.
I'd personally like to acknowledge the contribution of everyone we
interviewed for this series and thank them for their time.
They are David Heckenbuck, Donald Hartanoff, Lori Cantillo, Lee Larson,
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Peter Boyles, Peter Robinson, Susan Ryman, Tom Martino, and Wayne Mannis.
Special thanks as well to Karen Given the History Colorado Center,
Nikki Eetore, Anna Stump, and Taylor Checoyne. And a gentle
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Previously on live Wire. The Loud Life and shocking Murder
of alan Burg.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Twenty three members of the extrema group known as the
Order are accused of murders, armed robbery, counterbidding, and an
ardent attempt at an x Vated theater in Seattle, all
to further their message of hate. The underground network came
to light after a fiery shootout on whit The Island
in Washington, Fate in which leader Robert Matthews were killed.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
They were members of the Order who had turned state's
evidence and became witnesses for the prosecution. And we divided
those up, and so I had some of those, and
so did all of the other members of our team.
And then most of the people were eyewitnesses, the Brinks drivers,
people along the road who had seen them, alan Berg's wife,
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I believe testified, and other people who were privy to
the alan Berg murder.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
There was a lady by the name of King Craig
who was closely affiliated to Robert Matthews, and she went
to Denver weeks before the assassination and did a very
thorough job of identifying alan Berg, his friend, his associates's.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Activities on a daily basis. She followed him and surveilled
him and knew exactly where he worked, toward his residence,
was when he generally got home from work, what he
did in terms of any recreational activity, and provided all
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that information to the assassination group.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
We later learned that the radio station itself had been
cased by Gene Craig, who had posed as a prize
winner and apparently had been escorted around the station. So
the thought that these killers had actually been in our
midst was scary.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
And then it was at the end of December. There
was a period of time when the jury was deliberating,
and it was about four or five days, I think,
and then finally they announced that they had reached a verdict,
and we all came back to court and we listened
to the verdict and everyone was found guilty and the
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trial was over.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
By nineteen eighty seven, each of the individuals behind Alanberg's
shocking assassination were either dead or in prison. That fact
brought some measure of closure to the numerous people who
are still grieving the popular Denver radio host's violent death.
As many listeners and admirers, the colleagues who so greatly
respected alan and everything he stood for. All of them
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could continue mourning knowing that the dangerous people behind this
crime were off the street. It wasn't true justice, after all,
the Denver District Attorney's office never did file murder charges.
But everyone who knew and loved Alan Berg, even some
of the people who hated Alan Berg, could rest somewhat
at ease knowing that local and federal investigators had worked
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in tandem to track down Berg's killers. And with that
came the perfect opportunity to honor Burgh's death by commemorating
his remarkable life, particularly his massive contribution to Denver media.
But instead of this well earned memorialization of Berg and
his work came and nothing at all for years. Then
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finally in twenty twenty.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Two, if everybody wanted to start moving to their seats,
we're going to get started here in a minute.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's October eighth, twenty twenty two, and a who's who
of local media and Denver have decended on the Sinesta
Hotel in downtown Denver. About a dozen tables are laid
out in a hotel ballroom with a small stage placed
near the center of the room. The Denver Press Club
has invited everyone for its Hall of Fame induction ceremony,
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an event the organization hasn't hosted since twenty nineteen because
of COVID. This year's inductees include Denver Post journalist Sandra Dillard,
local news anchor Kathy Walsh, longtime columnist Mike Litwin, Denver
Urban Spectrum founder Rosalind Harris, and almost four decades after
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his death, Alan Burke.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
My name is Skyler McKinley.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
I am thrilled to serve on the Denver Press Club
Board of Directors as treasurer. I'm admittedly a little less
thrilled to announce that I'll be your MC tonight. I'm
so grateful we'll be inducting Alan Burke tonight. As a
student of Colorado history, I've always found burg to be
one of our states' most compelling, most important, least discus
us figures. As it happens, I used to live about
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a block from Alan's house, and I'd walk by that
sad monument to that great man almost daily. I would
share Alan's story to anyone who was with me on
one of those walks, and I mean anyone, including very
recently a Peloton delivery person parked in that very driveway
who promptly and in a very concerned tone asked me
to leave them alone.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It's a nice evening and a pleasant acknowledgment for each
of the nights on our Ease, Berg's friends and colleagues,
Peter Boyles and Susan Ryman speak to those in attendance,
along with longtime journalists and current city councilman Kevin Flynn.
Flynn even wrote a book about the Order with his
co writer Gary Gerhardt that was entitled The Silent Brotherhood,
which was adapted into a film about the Order that
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opened in theaters last year. Here are some of Susan
Ryman and Peter Boyle's heartfelt comments from the Big Night.
Speaker 8 (05:53):
You know, Allan was just a magic on earth. He
just knew what topic people wanted to talk about. They
simply know. It's almost like they were sitting in a
restaurant and they were listening to what the people were
talking about at the other table, and then they'd come
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back into work and they'd go on the air and
that's what they talk about. Because their job is simply
keep that audience to idiot.
Speaker 9 (06:21):
He never got up. He never could make an early show,
and so he always had afternoons or mid mornings Gate
and he always had these crazy cars like Bricklands and
the Lareans and just nonsensemobiles. And when we were busy,
he had the Laurean, but the door wouldn't open, so
he would pull in the alley, blow the horn, and
a board off would go out and open the door
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seat and get out.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
And we're able to honor Alan Bert tonight because of
Peter Boyle's tireless commitment to making sure that generations of
Coloraden's know why bird mattered. About a year ago, my
friend and Lakewood mare Adam Paul heard Peter talking on
his radio show about the fact that Alan wasn't in
our Hall of fame. Had him texted me? He texted
me immediately, and because of him, Peter, Kevin Flynn and
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executive director Albi Siegel's work were able to honor Allenburg tonight.
Speaker 9 (07:13):
They've denied the guy I mean, and I finally went,
there's a guy named Dean Singleton who owned the Denver
Post and we're dear, dear friends. He he's an MS
and this is he's my Rabbi. I talked to Dean
about everything, and I so Dean's going in the hall.
This is like four years ago, and he's in a chair.
This is a remarkable man. And so I go to
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the Press Club and I really stay away from these people.
And so this board is there, and I want, can
I ask you something because I'm you know, I'm on
an up And I said, why isn't he here? Well,
they start double clutching me. I said, no, the guy
killed for what he did. You should have him in
your hall of fame. And I get these guys and said,
you don't have ab in here. Tell what's wrong with you?
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And then kind of looking at each other, I said,
are you afraid of him?
Speaker 10 (07:57):
What are you afraid of?
Speaker 9 (07:58):
The guy was murdered for what we do for a
lima and he's not in your Hall of Fame. And
he's not in the press club hall of fame, he's
not marked in the city. And I don't care about me,
I care about him. I mean, I'm just some other
idiot that did a radio show. But this guy, it's
a different boogie.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I'm journalist and filmmaker Talkonschewski And this is episode ten
honoring alan There are plenty of phrases you could use
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to describe alan Berg's posthumous induction into the Denver Press
Club Hall of Fame, but foremost among them would have
to be long overdue.
Speaker 9 (08:48):
So what happened?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Why did it take so long for anyone in Denver
to submit the awesome legacy of this important figure in
the city's history with any sort of grand gesture. Former
colleagues Lori Cantillo and Don Hartenoff well on k Away.
Speaker 11 (09:04):
We did produce anniversary broadcasts. I believe there was a
tenth anniversary a show of his death. I agree that
it's crazy that it took what forty years to be
recognized by the Colorado Broadcast Hall of Fame.
Speaker 12 (09:22):
He was a rebel, you know, he didn't he didn't
kiss all the behinds of all the people that were
involved in it, and so yeah, it took a while
for him to to get that recognition. I don't I
don't know what they're you know, the Colorado Broadcasters, they
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should have they should have put him in a few
years after they murdered. But you know, that's just the
way it moves sometimes, right.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Of course, Allenberg's story is inevitably tied to the Order,
an organization that has since inspired a number of books
and films telling its story. So while alan Berg's legacy
is still being secured decades later, the Order's legacy has
been cemented for some time.
Speaker 11 (10:11):
Until Alan's death, I did not know the extent of
white supremacy in America, and I think many of us
made the mistake of assuming that when Barack Obama was
elected president, that we had set all of that aside.
But now we know better. We know that with the
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election of Donald Trump, that those who are on the
far right felt empowered. January sixth happened, and those attitudes
are alive and well today, unfortunately, to the detriment of
our country and the world. Really, I do find myself
wondering what would Alan be thinking about what's happening in
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our country today, And I do his voice because he
was always there, you know, fighting for those who had
no voice, who had been marginalized in our society. It's
more of a threat today than it was then.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Sadly, Lori Cantillo makes a good point when it comes
to domestic terrorism, it does appear that groups are largely
emulating organizations like the order. According to a twenty twenty
four research project funded by the National Institute of Justice,
far right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides
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than far left or radical Islamist extremists since nineteen ninety.
The study counts two hundred and twenty seven such attacks,
leading to more than five hundred and twenty deaths.
Speaker 13 (11:46):
I have sayan things in my life, and I have
a couple of times really thought I was singing UFO.
So I'm not discounting the possiblit of UFO.
Speaker 10 (11:51):
Did you really?
Speaker 9 (11:52):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (11:52):
No question, No, I really had it.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Lop.
Speaker 13 (11:54):
What I'm doing research like a huge bagel. It was
a huge bagel. Right in the middle is hello, you're
a Jewish person. We're going to have it right now.
This is true with it, I was going the big
delegatests in this guy well where.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
By the time of his death in nineteen eighty four,
alan Berg had truly enraptured the city of Denver. He
was a radio institution by then, his face appearing on
numerous billboards around the city. But this star was beginning
to shine outside Denver as well, especially after he was
featured in a sixty minute segment about the shock jock
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phenomenon that had taken over mainstream radio.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You say yourself, you often go on there, you don't
know quite what you're gonna say.
Speaker 13 (12:37):
Hopefully my legal training will prevent me from saying the
one thing that will kill me, and I've come awfully close.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So it's natural to wonder. With his reach expanding with
each passing day, his influence growing more and more, have
the Order not hunted down alan Berg? Have they not
silenced him forever for being so outspoken? Where would his
career and you have taken him? Here are Rhyman and Heartsnoff,
followed by former KOA station manager Lee Larson.
Speaker 8 (13:07):
He would be syndicated today. I would have followed him anywhere.
I would have had so much pleasure of producing his
show and just watching his mind work. And most of
the time I just shake my head and think, why
didn't I think of that? That's crazy, that's crazy smart radio.
But yeah, he haunts me. He's with me every day.
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I don't think there's a day that goes by I
don't think of Alanberg. It's just he's always there. We
were robbed, all.
Speaker 12 (13:39):
Of us, you know. Ten years later, the whole industry.
He'd have been he'd have been syndicated across the country,
I believe, on multiple multiple radio stations, because iHeart J
Corr came in and they bought multiple stations, and you know,
you'd have had burned doing shows around the country. I
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belief because he was he was that kind of he
would have refined his art to you know, be as
aggressive without without really irritating all the people just a
couple you know, you'd rEFInd it, I think. And because
he was very intelligent on his show and his delivery.
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He was very intelligent, and every time he'd comment generally
it made sense. You know, people like, you know he's right,
because he was a shrewd guy, smart, very smart. Yeah,
he was definitely missed. He was definitely missed. I left
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left KOA and out my own ad agency in ninety five,
So but he would have he would have been part
of the program, that's for sure. For a number of years,
it was really really sad, really sad.
Speaker 10 (15:00):
What could Alan have become. Well, he was murdered in
nineteen eighty four in the early years of talk radio,
when talk radio was still sort of figuring out what
it was going to be. About and I think with
Alan's natural instincts that had he not been murdered, he
would have gone on to be one of those talk
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hosts that would have been syndicated all over the country
because of the entertaining value of his show, the charismatic
personality that he could make come through the speaker on
a radio, I think he would have done very very well.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
You're the air, Yeah, why don't you you shut your
mouth and get off the air? Well?
Speaker 13 (15:43):
Why do you say that?
Speaker 14 (15:45):
I say it because you shouldn't be on there?
Speaker 13 (15:47):
Why shouldn't I be on you.
Speaker 14 (15:48):
Simply because I sit for a lot of other people.
Speaker 13 (15:51):
Gera a minute, you let me off.
Speaker 14 (15:53):
That's been your crouble. You shoot your mouth off?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And the other guy that calls in, Why don't you
say anything?
Speaker 13 (15:58):
Why don't shut up and go off? Why'd you a
dress just that we're talking about? Why ain't you case?
Speaker 9 (16:05):
She hung up?
Speaker 13 (16:05):
Good, good call. There you're in case.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Alan Berg may have been part of the first wave
of shock jocks who ultimately reshaped radio and provided a
template for all the digital media that would follow, but
even among his contemporaries in the nineteen eighties, he was
a true original his unique background as a lawyer, his
battle with seizures and alcoholism, his colorful personal life and
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numerous passions, the fact that he had seemingly lived multiple
lives before even contemplating a life in radio. Within the
group of bold voices who changed everything, he was an
original among originals, and that's probably why he was so
good at what he did.
Speaker 12 (16:45):
Everybody would love to emulate and be in Alan Berg,
but they nobody can quite get there, you know. And
they and maybe it was the times that allowed it,
you know, but nobody could really pull off even today,
what the charisma Berg had with the way he did
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the program, you know. I mean, you're right, they all
want to do it now, but you don't see him
anybody really doing it as well as Alan did.
Speaker 9 (17:17):
But he was unique. He was one of a kind.
It wasn't like somebody's going to come along and be
this flamethrower and hit people over the head like Alan.
There was only Allen.
Speaker 13 (17:25):
That was it.
Speaker 9 (17:26):
And my approach to the business is different, and other
people's approach to the business is different. But I understand
this guy's not school trained. He's not. He just knew
maybe he knew it as a defense attorney. I don't know.
Maybe you knew it as a Jewish kid growing up
in Chicago, and he and his father hated one another.
I don't know, but somewhere along the line, maybe gaining sobriety,
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I don't know, he saw it, and when he did,
he got it.
Speaker 14 (17:54):
Whatever happened to the alan Berg who specialized in peddling
pernography over the air, I have insulting elderly.
Speaker 13 (18:02):
Women, but let's explore that. I don't ever recall selling
pornography on the air, but you make care you might carry.
Speaker 14 (18:09):
Remind me, oh, well that was back in khal when
you had that Saturday or what night was it? You
had a dating program?
Speaker 13 (18:19):
I certainly had a dating show. I certainly did.
Speaker 14 (18:22):
And you'd ask such leading questions, and all of them were.
Speaker 13 (18:26):
Supposed to answer the men, give me, give me any was.
Speaker 14 (18:29):
Your most embarrassing sexual encounter?
Speaker 13 (18:32):
I think that's a very interesting question as a matter
of fact, And what was your best I happen to
specialize in it. I failed a lot, my dear, I
cant understand listening to your voices. Probably you've probably turned
on every man that's come near you. I turned I'm
an elder I imagine in your day, my dear, the
men were passionately aroused by the mere sight of your
body or parts of your body. If you ever, in
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fact it'd exposed it, I would guess that you were
probably a letty who might very well have kept your
clothes on.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
During You can't help but notice the irony here that
someone who was silenced so suddenly before being completely forgotten
has his fingerprints on so much of what we watch
and listen to today. It certainly helps that all of
the issues that Alan so passionately discussed on his show, race, sex, immigration,
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the welfare state, government waste, they're the same things we
are still all arguing about decades later. And Berg's cadence
and personality, really his entire approach to radio established a
tone that can be recognized everywhere from cable news to podcasts.
Speaker 11 (19:39):
What I learned most from Alan Berg as a radio
broadcaster was the power of one to one communication. So
the old style announcers used to broadcast ladies and gentlemen,
you know, here we are, and you're talking like you're
talking to a stadium full of people. Alan personalized radio.
He made you feel like he was talking to you
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and only you. In fact, I recall he said radio
is the last American neighborhood. It was a place where
you could, you know, cozy up on a barstool and
have a conversation with a friend, or you could talk
over the backyard fence like people used to do, or
sit on the front porch and have a conversation. And
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I often, as a program director later in my career,
would coach hosts much in that way and say, talk
to me as if you're talking to your best friend.
You know, don't be an announcer, don't try to have
a big male radio voice, but be authentic, be yourself,
make fun of yourself, laugh, self deprecation. There's nothing that
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will endear people to you more than self deprecation. And
Alan understood that he did not take himself too seriously.
He made fun of himself and laughed at himself all
the time. But it was his ability to communicate as
if you were the only person in the world that
really stays with me.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
For me, Alan was what makes talk radio, talk radio interesting, poignant, relevant,
what holds an audience to a radio station. Alan Berg,
I believe is one of the most brilliant talk shows
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that I ever had the pleasure of working with. He
taught me a lot about how to keep an audience
tuned in, how to keep them engaged, how to not
take them for granted, to treat them with respect, and
figure out what is going to keep them tuned into
this radio station. That's what we do every single day.
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You have to keep this audience engaged because it's all
about the money, and if you're not keeping them through that,
they're not buying anything. That's what Allen did. Kept them
through the break, keep them through that quarter hour. Make
sure that, because everything is built on quarter hours, you
have to get them through the commercial to the next break,
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and that goes over the quarter hour. He got it.
He got it, but he knew what made people listen.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I'm pretty upset about what the government is doing as
far as bringing in all the repugee.
Speaker 13 (22:25):
You know, like people by because they're showing a work
ethic that's better than most Americans. God bless them. Well, No,
I'll make a shake up and do something and work
and earn something and not want a free ride. Sweetheart,
wind what you're on KOA.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
In producing this ten episode arc outlining Ellen Bird's life
and death, I've consumed hours of archives from his time
on radio, and for me personally, I have to say that,
by far, the most compelling thing about all of this
is the extreme dichotomy between alan Berg the radio personality
and Alan Berg the person Those on air rantings of
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a bold, brash, overconfident, and overcaffeinated loudmouth. A lot of
it was a defense mechanism for a gentle and humble
man who spent the better part of his life absolutely
racked by insecurity.
Speaker 11 (23:19):
What people didn't know about alan Berg is that he
was humble, sensitive, I would say, somewhat of an introvert
actually if you were to meet him in person, and
this is true of many really talented radio hosts that
I've worked with, and also that he was outraged by
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injustice and really wanted to fight for the underdog. It's
too simplistic to say that alan was just mean and rude.
Many would say he had a heart of gold inside.
You know, he was all to teeth and fangs on
the outside, but inside he was a smellow I.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
Mean, his hands, his fingers were this long, his hair
was crazy, he had this jagged pock mark face. He
was tall, he was skinny, he was the not the
kind of man that you would be attracted to on
a physical level, but intellectually that man was attractive as
the kind of guy that you wanted to sit there
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and hopefully not have to get too engaged with him
on an intellectual level over lunch.
Speaker 14 (24:30):
But he was he was.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
He was funny, he was he was funny. But I
remember him as being kind. You know, I went through
some really tough times right through there, and he was
always so kind to me. He was always kind to me.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
During certain special moments on the air, allen Berg actually
let his guard down and exposed those insecurities.
Speaker 13 (24:52):
If it isn't a labor a level, I want to
vas a. Bob Hawks been a friend of mine for
a long time. And when I'm looking for shoes, and
when you're looking for shoes, if you don't shop j
both danger're missing the only hip shoe star in all
the state of Colorado. Now a lot of people say, what.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
Does the hip mean.
Speaker 13 (25:06):
Hip means it's the right shoe. It's the correct shoe
to wear. It's not some gimmicky dumb shoe.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
It doesn't hit.
Speaker 13 (25:11):
The brogues are out dummy, don't wear the brogues the
floorshine brogues, you know, the big clunky things the curl
up in the middle with the short socks. They'll even
say your long socks so your hairy legs won't hang
out there. And the girl looked down at you that
you're trying to pull around and say, anyway, the point
is he's got some groovy look at shoes. They will
improve your appearance considerably. That I wish he had a
shoe that cover my face will be a bat. And
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a lot of listeners said, you're not kidding turkey anyway,
but I love Bob Hockey. You're a terrific guy.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
No, I'm really bad at sex, Susan really bad at sex.
And I said, well, how do you determine that you
need to sit up? And I think it's because he
just didn't feel like he was attractive. I would a
woman want to make love to someone that unattractive.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Of all the friends and colleagues of Alan Berg who
contributed to this product, none has been more vehement in
their championing of Bergs legacy than Peter Boyles. Peter has
been a radio institution in Denver since the nineteen seventies
and can still be heard hosting his show on kN US.
He played a primary role in Berg's induction into the
Denver Press Club's Hall of Fame and continues to fight
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for Berg's memory.
Speaker 9 (26:20):
This is why I'm glad you're here. I want you here.
I want like I've struggled. Now he's going to go
in the Press Club Hall of Fame. There are some
people say, oh, we get him in a national Hall
of fame. Okay, that's great. I want to get the
city to Marcus death. They won't do it. I mean
I've tried, and of course it's me and the mayor
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and all the series of mirrors since have not been
my biggest fan, but that has nothing to do.
Speaker 10 (26:46):
I mean, we need.
Speaker 9 (26:49):
A marker, we need a plaque. There's nothing I feel like.
And the Godfather said, I find about Grain creating the city.
You know, I said, he created all this. There's not
a there's nothing about him. He's gone. And that's why
you guys have to do what you do. Because and
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I'm an old guy, and Lee's an old guy, as
Susan's old and we go that's it.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Naturally, we had to give Alan the final word in
all this, and considering the multitude of archives we uncovered
in researching this series. Picking just one clip proved difficult,
but we had to settle on one moment from his
final days at WBEAZ in Denver, when in an enthusiastic
caller pleaded with Alan to do what he did best.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And so I'll make it brief and leave, but do
me a bayrollen, And this is the last day on
the radio for you at BAS.
Speaker 13 (27:46):
You've never hung up on me before, but it told
me in an hang up on me. I just did
it before I did my thing. But you know, I'll
pay something my end my hang ups. Believe it or not.
If anybody could ever believe this, it was all men
hopefully to entertain. That was met seriously in a hope
of entertaining the people. It was not really because I
just simply and I'll say this going out and not
looking to save face, because I believe in everything I've
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ever done in talk radio. Some of the things that
I've made mistakes on no question, I made a filesand
mistakes in his business. And I'll tell you something, I
appreciate everybody that listened to me and shared in the
show with me.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Good guy, that guy a minute ago one last nime,
get out of here and it.
Speaker 10 (28:23):
Just play one on the berg, give them one.
Speaker 13 (28:25):
Okay, listen to you turkey, get out all right.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
No one isn't there today.
Speaker 13 (28:29):
Let me let me I tell your turkeys. That would
be absurd on a day like this, because all of
you made us a happening, and you made me a
happening for a lot of years, and you can't help
but love those people.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Thank you for listening to Live Wire the loud life
and shocking murder of Alan Burg. The series was produced
in memory of the late Stephen Singular and Judith Burg.
I'd personally like to acknowledge the contribution of everyone we
interviewed for this series and thank them for their time.
They are David Heckenbuck, Donald Hartanoff, Lori Cantillo, Lee Larson,
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Peter Boyles, Peter Robinson, Susan Ryman, Tom Martino, and Wayne Mannis.
Special thanks as well to Karen Given the History Colorado Center,
Nikki Eetore, Anna Stump, and Taylor Checoyne. And a gentle
reminder to leave a review of the series and share
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