September 17, 2025 • 50 mins
Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel are joined by Fmr Pro Bowl WR Randall Cobb in studio! Randall talks about his career in Green Bay and making the transition to the Cowboys. Randall talks about an experience with Owner Jerry Jones and why he changed teams. Randall looks back at his path from high school to college and the NFL. How did Randall's first TD come from a mistake? We explore Randall start with the Packers and his special relationship with Aaron Rodgers. Randall goes inside his move to the Jets and the moment Rodgers was injured. Bobby asks about the Packers being so dominant over the Bears. Randall gives his thoughts on the outlook for the Packers and Jordan Love this season. Randall recalls his 108yd kickoff return before explaining his latest project comparing training camp to special forces training.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got lots, Just say.
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We got loss, just saved what the becker here?
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And we hope you say because.
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Speaker 4 (00:31):
Bobby That all right?
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Welcome to another episode of Lots to Say.
Speaker 6 (00:36):
We did two this week because we had pretty much
an hour here with Randall Cobb, who I think a
Randall Cobb is like playing that slot in Green Bay,
making all those catches across the middle, being quick.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
When Rogers went to the Jets, he went with them.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
So and also Randall Cobb was always big for fantasy,
like there'd be just random weeks we'd have like nineteen
twenty twenty one points. So super cool that Randall came over.
You can follow him on Twitter and Instagram Our Cob eighteen.
And we do talk about the Special Forces show on Fox,
and I'm glad Matt asked about that he's doing that,
and so for sure watch that show if it's something
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that would interest you. But Randall Cobb got a whole
list here. Former NFL wide receiver Aaron Rodgers is the
godfather of one of his sons and was at his wedding.
So when we talk about Aaron Rodgers, know that there's
a relationship more than just quarterback wide receiver. He was
the sixty fourth overall pick in the twenty eleven NFL Draft,
which is the second round Pro Bowler All Rookie Team
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of twenty eleven First team All American. Went in college,
two time first team All SEC, fifty seven career touchdowns
at the time. He set the record for the longest
kickoff return in the NFL with one hundred and eight
yard return, which we do talk about it. Scored five
game winning fourth quarter touchdowns, went back to Kentucky to
finish his degree in twenty sixteen while.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
In the NFL. And I could keep going.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
But Randall Cobb, super nice guy, who were so excited
to have him periods.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yes, sir, the.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Simulator, he pointed it out as soon as he sat down.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Yeah, he said, I think we're sitting a golf simulator.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
Before you see my game.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
We've got some work today. We've got a little bit
of work today.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Swings after right in here, go to see you man,
ready to see you too.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Well, let's just start how much do you keep up
with the current landscape of football?
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (02:28):
I am teetering right now. My wife the other day
last Sunday, she was like, you haven't watched this much
football ever since I've known you, and Uh, I think
last year was a little bit of a transition, you know,
not playing. Uh, but this year I'm I'm back on
the couch enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Let me ask you this, are you one of those
guys that will watch a particular game.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Are you a red zone guy? I've burned into a
red zone guy?
Speaker 7 (02:51):
So I have red zone on and then like, so
the way I got to set up, I got four
screens red zone on. I'll have two games going and
then maybe we'll see who the third game is down here.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
For the first time this past week, I had a
little over stimulus where I was like, I can't watch
red zone.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
It was too much.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
My wife looked at me and goes, I think this
is football for people with eighty.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
D I think for the first time ever, because that's
normally not what happens to me. But it was bouncing
so much, and my wife was watching a little with
me too. She was like, how do you do this?
And I thought to myself, I don't know, I can't.
And also, it's like I got fantasy, I got I'm gambling.
It's like I got eight things happening aside from the
eight games happening at once.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Did a little bit. I had to take a breath,
step away.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
I stepped away to the Cowboys game, which was then
like eighty to eighty in the fourth quarter, which was
like its own red zone channel, insane, that game bouncing
so much. We put the Cowboys homet up here because
you had a little stint with the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
There we go, soda cast cast man.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Hell, a little stint one year stint?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
How long did you play the Cowboys?
Speaker 7 (03:52):
That was a year?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Two?
Speaker 5 (03:53):
What was that experience like for you?
Speaker 7 (03:54):
It was great. It was a lot of fun. You know,
we went eight and eight, which doesn't sound like that
should be a lot of fun. But it was a
great group of guys.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Dak.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
That was Zeke right after you signed hill big deal
to come back to the Cowboys. I was there that
whole year. That was Garrits last year. He ended up
getting fired at the end of the season, and then
they brought in Mike McCarthy, who was my coach my
entire career. And you know, my wife she still kicks
me for not signing back with the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
How was that transition though, because you're with Green Bay
for that whole what first nine eight years?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Eight years, eight years, and then you go to the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
What was it like just going into that new environment
culture wise, because you're used to one thing for so long, sure,
and then you make that transition go to new organization,
see how things are run.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
Yeah, I think that, you know, you have this perception
of what the Cowboys organization is from the outside, and
then once you get in and you start to see
and you start to pull back the layers, you start
to see how they operate. And I loved it. I
had a blast. You know, I felt like I was
part of the Jones family. You know, you see everyone
running around the facility. Charlotte's has her own operation, Hayley
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has her own operation. Shay was in the equipment room,
who was one of the grandsons, was in the equipment
room when I was there. So everyone has their piece
and it it really makes you feel like you're a
part of the family.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Did you feel like the Cowboys like that was a
well run, well organized organization.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Without a doubt. I mean, between Green Bay and then Dallas,
you can see a lot of similarities. I would say
the difference is ownership obviously, right. Green Bay doesn't have
an owner. They don't really spend the money. They kind
of hoard it all and the cowboys everywhere you go,
it's it's luxury, you know. We had They were doing
construction at the facility in Frisco the year I was there,
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so we had like valet service, like when we're pulling.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Up for practice.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I was a year before that we were at the
ranch and I was like, there's no valet.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Everybody's like, oh, it's like the taj mahal right.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
And then they had like a member's only restaurant that
like you would see businessman out watching practice, like having
work meetings and enjoying lunch and having drinks and watching
us practice. So it was a different, different experience than
what I had in Green Bay, but it was a
lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Now, you say you talked about Jerry, but did Jerry
also come and talk to the team sometimes before? Oh yeah,
Garrett would That was the thing that blew my mind, yes,
because you never see that, right, you come in after
a game and the coach addresses the team, talks of it,
says what he ever he's gonna say. Jerry was the
first one to always talk, and it was that that
blew my mind.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
It did. And then he would have the media in there,
like to have his press conference before they started interviewing
the players or their coaches. So that was definitely different.
But it was cool. I I really, I really enjoyed that,
and I have a pretty cool story with Jerry. Just
right after they hired McCarthy, I went to the press
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conference and as we're leaving, he puts his arm around me,
like I didn't want you to get lonely down here.
So like in my mind, I'm like, oh, yeah, i'm't
ready sign back to the Cowboys, easy, no question. Then
Houston come in later with the offer that I just
couldn't refuse.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
So whenever your coach comes down to Dallas, because it
wasn't like he left Green Bay to come to Dallas
right like he got fired, he was gone, it was
it was out for a bit. He was in the
basement watching film, is what they would say. Yeah, and
then he came out. Was he the reason that you
came here was his knowledge of you. Is that what
helped get you to Dallas?
Speaker 7 (07:27):
No, so I went to Dallas the year before. So
I was on three separate teams in three years in
a row, and all three coaches got fired. So I
think we have a comment nominators there. But twenty eighteen
McCarthy got fired. Twenty nineteen, I go to Dallas. Garrett
gets fired right after that season. Twenty twenty, the COVID year,
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they're hiring McCarthy and I ended up going to Houston.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
So he didn't with him. You were there, he came in.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
But it was crazy because after they hired him, I
think the assumption was like, I'm signing back for sure.
So like all the coaches that were on staff currently
were like, hey, like trying trying to tell me to
put a word in for for for you know that
next season.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So you grew up in East Tennessee. You were a
three three sport athlete growing up. When did you know
that football was going to be your path that you
were going to take moving forward?
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Probably it was probably I was La Bloomer. I'm young
for my class. I started school with five. I graduated
high school seventeen. I probably should have been held back
a year would probably would have opened up some more
opportunities for me. But I played quarterback in high school.
Undersized at a two way school. Uh you know, we
had five hundred kids in our school, but we had
a dominant football program all four of my years. We
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want to state championship fifty five and five. I didn't
plan until my junior year. Like we had. We had
some guys on our team number one tight end defensive
end in the nation, ended up going to Florida State
or running back to sign with Tennessee but had to
go to Juco defensive end quarterback. This is the school same, No,
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this is a this is a public sta. We just
had some guys. I mean it's a really small community.
But just like athletes glore. Uh So for me, I
didn't play like I didn't start until my junior year.
So like I'm always like looking up to these guys.
I would go to camps. I remember going to Clemson
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camp and the quarterback coach there told me that, you know,
my best bet was go D three. So in my mind,
I'm like, you know, if I can go to a
Vandy or a Wake Forest and like get into one
of these really high level institutions, like I can go
and get a great job after my career is over. Right,
That's where my mindset was. And you know, I went
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to Vandy, they didn't offer me. I went to Wake Forest,
they didn't offer me. I'm out there playing dB receiver
quarterback like anything, like anything, and looking for a scholarship
and finally I get my first one before my senior
year from Middle Tennessee State, and then Kentucky offer not
not too long after that, and then Tennessee CA in
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like late into my senior year.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Is that where like Middle Tennessee opens up a door
for other coaches to look at you.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Does that happen at all?
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Where a scholarship's offered and you're like, I got this,
Any other coaches may be like, h all right, if
they're offering you, maybe I should investigate why they're offering you.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Did that happen at all?
Speaker 7 (10:21):
I think so? I think you would say so, especially
when you start getting into some of them top tier schools.
I would assume that USC if they see that somebody
is offered by Notre Dame, they're going to check out
this kid, right, they're going to see what he's all about.
I would assume that that happens in sports.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Why did you go to Kentucky?
Speaker 7 (10:39):
The coaching staff I was there. Rich Brooks was the
head coach when I was being recruited. Randy Sanders was
a quarterback coach, you know, a guy that coached at
Tennessee for a long time that I had a lot
of respect for. Joker Phillips was offensive coordinator, and I
just felt really comfortable we had grown a relationship. I
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could trust what they were telling me. They told me
that they would give me an opportunity to play quarterback,
but like they're not guaranteeing that anything happens from that,
And that's all I wanted was a chance.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
So you wanted to go to college and play quarterback?
Speaker 7 (11:11):
I did.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
That was your primary thing, and you actually ended up
playing quarterback your freshman year at at Kentucky. Talk about
that experience and then when did the transformation start to
where you moved to wide receiver.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Well, yeah, I came in so my going into my
freshman year during training camp, you know that was two
days back in that day, right, so we would have
one practice half the team with practice the first practice
and then there was like a thirty minute special teams
gap and then the second group would practice the second
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half of practice. For the first few days of camp,
so what they were having me do was I would
play quarterback in one practice special team. I had to
practice both practices for the first few days. And then
you know that that led to me having an opportunity.
I started as a receiver in the first game, and
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I think it was about a second third game we
started rotating me Mike Cartline, who was our old other quarterback,
in back and forth, and then I think I ended
up starting like three or four games at quarterback that season.
I mean I I think I threw two touchdowns and receptions.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Right, hey, I got it in.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
I got it in. But we had a game. We
had a game against Georgia where Stafford aj Green those
guys were on the other side, and it went back
and forth, and I remember we had a drive where
I let us down the field and then threw a
pick like on a fifteen yard line opportunity to score.
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And I was like man like after that game, like
obviously hurt and pain that we lost, but I think
it was like the realization of like Oh maybe I
can really, I can really do something with.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
So when was the transition where you fully were focused
on playing wide receiver.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
It never really was a full time thing for me
my junior My sophomore year, I moved to receiver, but
I was still meet with the quarterbacks. My junior year,
I think I was meeting with the receivers at that point,
but we're still doing a lot of wildcat quarterback stuff
like that was a huge part of our offense. So
I was pretty raw when I came into the league
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as far as receiver play. I just hadn't played as much.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So you get drafted in the second round though, so
they saw the potential they knew. But talk to me
about when you came into that meeting room. They just
came off of Super Bowl, right. You got Donald Driver,
You've got Jordi Nelson, you got Greg Jennings, who was
a teammate of mine.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I mean, you had some dudes. You had Jones in there.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yes, what was that like coming into that room with
that and that ENVI, with so many established guys.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
It was the greatest thing that ever happened to me.
I not only walked into a room with great players,
but great men, all of them married, all of them kids.
I'm like, I have nothing in common with these guys,
like besides the football part, right, Like I'm a twenty
year old kid. That's like living life, Like go to
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Green Bay. Not a whole lot to do up there,
you know, outside of football. So got to focus in
on the game. But I got to watch them every
single day, whether it be practiced, the way they operated
in the film room. Donald was in year thirteen, I
believe at that point, Like I got to see his
process of like what he did to keep his body
fresh and ready to go. Obviously Aaron spinning.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
It and.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
At quarterback. So I was very fortunate to be able
to play with a group like that, and I wasn't
forced to go out and be expected to play fifty
plays offensively. And you know, like I said, I was
pretty raw. Like my my whole role was as a
special teamer was punt return and kick return, and like
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I would come in occasionally on offense. But like my
first touchdown, I ran the wrong route.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Like what happened there?
Speaker 7 (15:20):
He gave us a signal and like it was it
was a three by one, and like he gave like
I thought he was looking at me like telling me, hey,
I need you to run this slint right here. No,
he was telling us like slant flat right. So I'm
at the number two and instead of running the flat route,
I run a slant. He sees me pop open, he
hits me across the middle, and I go score. I
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had no clue until I got back to the sideline
that I ran the wrong route.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
To tell you what did he say?
Speaker 7 (15:48):
But he didn't even tell me. He congratulated me on
the touchdowye and then finally like, uh, you know, after
the celebration and we were sitting over there, they were like, hey,
you know you ran the wrong route right. I was like, no,
he gave me a slint. He's like no, like you
got a flat that yes.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
So I went up to Eugene, Oregon, and we had
spent some time with landing in those guys and they
were like, think about Eugene is it's great, but there's
nothing to do.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Like there's some stuff to do, but there's nothing to do.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
So a lot of those guys stay out of trouble
because there's not like a big city to go to
where there are a lot of options and a lot
of resources for trouble.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Is Green Bay like that it is?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
It is like I mean when you when you talk
about football, that that is the haven, that's the place
you want to be. The stadium is the biggest building
in the entire city, right, Like, if you're standing on
top of the stadium, there's there's no skyscrapers that's higher
than that point. The place shuts down on Sundays after games,
like you're ordering Papa John's or Longhorns to the house.
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There's not a whole lot going outside of that. And
I think as a young player that helps because it
feels like a college town without all the distractions of
the thirty thousand kids that's running around and the frat
parties and sororities and all that whole scene. Right, so
it allows you to focus on what you need to do.
You know, when you get bored, you go to the
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facility and you're getting extra body work or you're watching
film and doing those things.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Talk to me about Aaron as a leader.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Was he one of those guys that was very vocal
and get on you, like when you did something wrong.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I'm sure he lets you know about it.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
But was he a you know, father like with the
facial disappointment when you look at your kids and just
be like, I believe you did that, or yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
I saw those games on Sunday. He's still getting into
those guys, like, yes, that's that's what it was like.
There was an expectation like that, that's just the standard
that he has, Like if you're going to play with him,
you have to understand that. It's not it's not like you,
it's like what he expects from you. And if you
want to be on the field, like you have to
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hold that standard. And you know, that was one of
the things that was so pivotal for us in our
room is we had a bunch of guys that understood
ball and like we didn't make mental errors like that.
If you had mental errors, it was very minimal. Like
I think I went a few seasons where I had
like one for the entire season, right, So that's just
kind of what it was like. That was the expectation.
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And you know, if you want at the ball, like
you got to be where you got to be.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
I'm assuming he did the work first and foremost with
the expectation of you do it as well.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yeah, he knew it to expected you guys to know it.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Yes, I mean, I mean I always say I got
my doctorate from Rogers University, like and when it comes
to football, like I know ex's and o's. You want
to talk about protections, I can get into some of
that with you, just from from my quarterback background. So
being able to see a defense from a quarterback perspective
as a receiver, that gave me an upper hand for sure.
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But yeah, he was he understood the offense when he
played the same offense for a decade plus, Like it
allows you to play free and fast and understand what
the concepts are, what the signals are, where you need
to be, why you need to be there, where you
are in the progression, like all the new details of
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the game. So that was that was something that really
helped out. Now he was a master also at the
line of scrimmage. How much of the offense were you,
guys always prepared for an adjustment at the line scrimmage
he sees something. You always would see the signals available
and the different adjustments that he'd make.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
But how much would you say when.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You go into a week that you've got to just
be prepared for him to change stuff at any point.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
Yeah, I would say we had a pretty good idea
based off of you know, when you look at the
numbers of what they do on third down or defensively,
you have a good understanding of what teams are going
to do going into it with the game plan. But
in game adjustments happened, and that's part of the game.
He was one that something could happen in practice in
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week three and we talk about it, We talk about
it on the field of practice, we talk about it
in the meeting room, and we may not hear or
talk about that again until week ten in the middle
of a game and we have this same look and
it's like, hey, remember acts from week three when we
were talking about this at practice and we talked about
like he's expecting you to renew and remember those kind
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of little details so we can implement him in the
middle of a game.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
In week ten when you go to the Jets, was
it a lot because of your knowledge of what he
was trying to do and what he was doing.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Yeah, I was planning on retiring. I was after going
to Green Bay, going back to Green Bay, I got
traded back from Houston. It was like, man, that's a
full circle. Moment I get to come back to where
it all started. For me, I was at peace, and
obviously the Jets made that move to get him. It's
crazy because we had conversations about playing in New York
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a long time ago, and it was just like, Oh,
that's never going to happen, but it comes to be.
And we had that moment and that opportunity, and it
was a great situation. You had Robert Salad, who I
thought was a great coach defensive minded, Aaron was gonna
have a little bit of flexibility offensively to implement some
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of what he does. They had a great running game
with Breis Hall. We felt like we had enough pieces there,
and then four plays into the season, the whole thing
blows up so long, without a doubt, without a doubt,
and I was actually surprised they kept me as long
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as they did. I thought that like after that that
they would, you know, start making moves.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
What do you remember endgame about that? And what and
how how fast did you know what had happened with him?
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Uh? Nobody was talking about it. On the sideline. We
were trying to figure out, like what happened? I think
they were trying to keep our mind in the game
and not tell us exactly what it was. So it
wasn't until halftime for me. I walked into halftime, immediately
ran back to the to the training room, and I
just seen him laying on the bench, and as soon
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as he sees me, it's just like he started crying,
and I was like, dang man, stuff. So I knew,
I knew what it was at that point. But yeah,
and then we went out and finished that game and
somehow we.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Won that game.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
We won it.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Yeah, it was like a crazy punt return to end it.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Did you know, knowing him, did you think that he
was going to come back and play the following year.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
I I thought for sure that he wouldn't want to
go out that way. Like I thought for sure like
that would be the case. And there were a lot
of things that I saw during that season. You talk
about organizations, like after being in Dallas and being in
Green Bay and seeing how certain things have run, you
realize some of what's happening that's more than football, and
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it's like I'm sorry, I'm good, I'm good. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm good. So you know, it was unfortunate, but you know,
he obviously played that second year in New York. And
you know, I think anyone that's came off of injury
knows that that first season back you're not quite up
to your standard because you've been rehabbing the entire time.
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I'm rather than focusing on your training.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
We saught with him saw with Kirk Cousins, right, you
know that Achilles. Usually they say he can come back,
but you're not fully back until a year and four or.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Five months easily.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Did you think about maybe moving to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
For a little bit?
Speaker 7 (23:21):
What's crazy is my my favorite childhood team growing up
was the Stillers. I grew up behind his Ward fan
like that was my guy, like Randall L. Cordell Stewart.
My dad was a huge Pittsburgh fan because lyn Swan's
grandmother lived across the street from him when he was
growing up, so Lynce Wan would come back to town
and play pass with my dad growing up as a kid.
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So I grew up like with fat heads of Jerome
Bettis and you know some of those legendary still in
his moments that I remember watching with my dad on
the couch. Like I was a huge Stealers fan growing up,
but no, I was at that point I was, I
was ready.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
He made some what five game winning catches in your career?
Does one standout you in your mind because in the
most pivotal moments you stepped up in these these games.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Yeah, I would say probably. It would probably be the
Bears game twenty thirteen to get us into the playoffs.
To special moment here, special moment. So twenty thirteen, I
broke my leg midseason, like low hit. I thought I
blew everything out, just had a plateau fracture, missed ten weeks.
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Aaron broke his collar bone same season. He was out
like eight weeks. We both come back for that Bears
game and we had to win to get into the playoffs.
I think I played like twenty snaps that game, just
on a very limited basis. I think we had like
three fourth down conversions on that final drive. And then
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it was fourth and eight from the forty eight and
we're in a huddle during a time out and Aaron
basically is like, Hey, okay, this this is what I'm thinking.
Jordi was at the Hey, I want you to run
like a deep cross Randall, get past the sticks, run
a pivot right there past the sticks. JJ, who was
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playing outside I want you to run a Puma comeback
route fifteen yards outside of number one. We get up
to the line and we realize they're in zero, so
zero blitzing everyone playing man across the board and I
see Chris Kanti, who's at safety, who's covering me. He's
like standing right where I have to stop, so the
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ball snapping. I come off the ball and I just
remember looking and seeing his eyes in the backfield, and
I'm like, I can take it right here, and i
just throw my hand up and like hoping that he
sees me throw my hand up. And the next thing
I know is I look up and the balls in
the air, and it felt like the little giants. It's
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like that those are always the hardest one because it's
like it's so easiest right there, just make the play.
But luckily I was able to make the catch, dive
into the end zone. Actually just had that jersey, that
jersey's been in storage forever. Just had that jersey framed.
I still have the orange stain on it from from
the Bears logo. I still have the helmet with the
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grass that was stuck in my helmet that I got
put in a shadow box. But yeah, those. That was
probably one of those moments that I look back like, Wow,
that was that was special.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
You guys owned the Bears.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
Who did you? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:49):
It was like it didn't matter what year it was,
what the records were. You guys owned the Bears. Why
was that?
Speaker 7 (26:58):
I wish I could tell you that I knew exactly why.
I think for a long time we just kind of
had their number because we we knew what they were
going to do, and we just knew that they couldn't
stop us. And it was just I think that confidence
that you play with where it's like we've been here,
we've done that, we know what this this field is
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going to do. Like you go down to Chicago and
the field is beat up. You got to put in
those you got to put in those long studs. Yeah,
you know what it is like, you know what kind
of game is going to be like, and you just
you go out there and you just play with a
confidence that's that's unmatched.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
You were talking about you have the jersey, the helmet.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I remember one day we were at school and you
pulled up and you were I think you're moving houses
And he opens up the trunk to put his kids
backpack in there and he's got all these different jerseys.
So you know you used to trade jerseys and we
talked about the cast. Did you ever do that? I
was like, man, it was my era was before that.
But what's your collection like? Because you have an incredible collection.
I saw those jersey I was like, Oh.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
They weren't all just yours?
Speaker 4 (28:01):
No, no, no.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
No, it was all it was all jersey swaps. Some
of my favorite ones are mostly my teammates that I
played against that went on to move to different teams.
Michaeh Micah Hyde in Buffalo, I got a chance to
play against him. I got Aaron's jersey from when I
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went to Dallas and we played Green Bay in Dallas.
I got his jersey from that. I got Tay's jersey
when I was in Houston and he was in Green Bay.
Those are probably some of my favorite ones. Dante high Tower,
who is a guy that you know, grew up here
in Tennessee. We played on an All Star team together
East versus West game back when they used to do that. Yes, yes,
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oh yeah, oh yeah, but that was that was That's
probably some of my favorites.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
How's your body now?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
It's good?
Speaker 7 (28:55):
Actually, I played tennis this morning, and I'm like, man,
this is this is nice to be able to move
around have some aches. You know, gotta gotta roll out
some mornings, uh, to get going. I still feel a
few of those hits, got to pop my neck every
now and then, but overall feel pretty good.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
So Green Bay this year, obviously they're off to a
good start. They made a little bit of a splash
with that trade early on in the season. What do
you think that just the outlook of their season looks like,
because I think that they're a Super Bowl contender without
a doubt in mind.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
Definitely, definitely. I think I think they're definitely a contender.
Bringing Micah in, Just the excitement that's around that alone,
the momentum that's built off of that him warring number
one who no one's wore number one since Curly Lambo,
which is mind blowing. That alone, I think elevates them
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to another place that allows that defense to play a
little bit more free. They're able to rush for and
keep their eyes on the quarterback, play a different style
of the game. Rashan Gary, who I think is a
great player, is now going to have more op ttunities
with one on ones with all the attention that Parsons
(30:09):
is going to get. One of the linebackers is playing
lights out right now. I'm blanking on his name. My
wife would hate me if I said this, but you know,
CT is a real thing and gets mad at.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Doesn't say.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
She's like, stop doing that, that's not What do you
think of Jordan Love? I'm a big fan. I'm a
big fan of Jordan. Just to see how much he's progressed.
I don't know if anyone could have saw that a
few years ago. Just to see his ability now and
his confidence that he plays with. Uh, some of the
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things that he was able to add to his game.
You know, when I was watching the other day seeing
them make the alpha call and and try to catch
Washington with too many people on the field, like that
was a huge thing that we used to do, and
you know people would call it stealing, but it's part
of the rules, so we He's been able to add
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that to his arsenal and understand when and how to
get that done. Those little those little things make a
huge difference as a quarterback. And Matt Laflour, I think
is an excellent play caller. He puts him in opportunities
to win. He makes the game easy and fun. He
creates matchups. I love his ability to take something that
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he saw from the week before and added to to
the game plan, and George's been executing it.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Were you shocked that they finally took a receiver in
the first round of Matthew.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yes, you're like saying there going.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I mean, the laundry list of high second round draft picks,
including yourself, was wild. But did you think that they
were finally gonna pull the trigger?
Speaker 7 (31:50):
I didn't think that they would, but I remember seeing
him on the board like and it was getting close
to Green Bay pick, and I was like, take him,
please take him. I got a chance to work with
with Golden for the draft or for the combine, so
like his agent and me, best friends, best friend, best
man in my wedding, I'm best legitimate legit. Yeah yeah,
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Ed Barry incredible story. We can get to that too.
But uh, he asked me if I could work with
him like excellent x's and o's like leading up to
the to the combine, because that's a huge part of
the combine, being able to talk about ball, being able
to talk to x's and o's, so I got to
work with him a little bit and see his passion
and desire for the game and his thirst for knowledge
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and wanting to grow, and like that is the perfect
fit in Green Bay. And one of the things that
I continue to try to reach out to him and
mentor him as as much as I can with is
like not pressing because I feel like when I watch
him right now, it's like he wants to make a
play so bad. And you know, I think that there
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is an expectation with him being the first round or
the first round pick that the Packers made that receiver
in a long time that he feels like he has
to live up to. But the special thing about Green
Bay is like that receiver room, there's always been so
many guys. They've done a great job. Duda's doting a
great job in the draft of bringing in guys and
it not being one person that has to do majority
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of the work. Like Romeo Dobbs is a guy, okay,
like he he deserves a big bag and I'm sure
he's gonna get it at some point. Christian Watson, when
he gets healthy, is going to be a huge part.
Jayden Reid, I mean now that he's out you know,
he's it looks like he's going to be out for
a while. There's a collar bone. I would imagine that
this is going to be Golden's time to get a
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few more targets and be able to showcase what he
can do.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Did you ever jump with Rogers Cadence, Yes, yes, for sure,
because you're definitely farther than alignment, and I mean just physics,
you're not gonna get it as loud. But god, dang,
that is a tough even watching him now, he's still
got it. I was still pulling people off. Did you
have to go and be like, don't jump, don't jump,
don't jump and still with flinch.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
So it's a funny play. And I actually saw one
of the tight end I think it was Tucker Kraft.
He did it the other day against Washington. I did
that once against Washington in like twenty one. He did
his kidence. I tried to fake like they got before it.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Yeah, emotionally, we used to act like we used.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
To act like we you know, if we would jump,
we like we were, you know, fixing our knee pads
or something like that.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Never worked.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
It did sometimes you could get away with it as
long as you don't like over the top, and then
like start looking around like you might be able to
pull it off and get away with it.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I've messed myself up before where I'm going double kittings
and I go really hard and I forgot that, hey,
we're doing double kates. I'll step back. They called me
for a false start because I stepped and moved. Yeah,
because I moved, I can't motion or if you're to yeah,
your hands and do that. But I also remember when
you guys would go like the silent countsl I mean
he lift his foot up fifteen times to try to
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get defensive.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Oh, and I'm like, how the hell does anybody know
that you guys are live on cadence.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
I don't understand how like teams could get a good
jump on it, because we would we would have so
many cadences. We would have so many silent cadences thirty
two twenty one, like two fake kicks coming on the
third one, Like there was so many of those. We
would go on different colors. It might be green, Blue
might be the live color. It might be purple, it
might be yellow. You just like I don't understand, like
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how anyone. And I think that's one thing that is
really tough when you go to a new team that
you haven't had that consistency to play with, like for
offensive line to try because I mean, he's used that
as a as a benefit to him for so many
years because you know, obviously been in Green Bay so long,
most of his offensive line was always the same. So
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that was that was one of the things with the
Jets that was a little more difficult, and I would
assume that it probably is in Pittsburgh as well.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Something you mentioned is the amount of time that you
and Rodgers played together after that many years, were there
times where you didn't even have to say anything.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
You could just make the look or the gesture and
just know what each other meant.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
Yeah, So there were a lot of cases of that,
Like when you know, if you're giving a signal to
someone like you might want to be over the top
with it right like to make sure they got it well.
It would come to the point to where like he
wouldn't have to look at me, he could just like
give the signal without looking, and I knew like what
the adjustment was, what the what the route he was
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trying to get to.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Us, so you guys had to do some things off
the field. I know one of the things that you
guys did was go to Kentucky Derby because we would
go with our crew, right, yes, and we go the
same parties. We go to the Barnstable Brown parties. And
it always felt like we're kind of sizing each other
up because there's like the Green Bay Packers and we
had like all the Patriots guys, but we're.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Always on the same row.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
What were those experiences like from like a team building
because you guys look like you're having fun, but that's
a great environment, it is.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
You know.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
We always looked at y'all with envy because you know,
y'all flashing your rings and doing the whole thing, and
we bring the boom box out, bring the boom box.
It was always a good time. We always had a group,
good group of guys. And uh, you know that we're
getting a little older. It's kind of turned into a
retirement get together. You know, it's a few guys are
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still playing, but it's like, you know, we go back
into the old war stories and get to spend some
time together catch up.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Tell me about the one hundred and eight yard return.
I think it was your rookie year. It pops up
occasionally on my TikTok. I think it's still the record
or one of the longest returns ever. Do you remember
anything specifically about that play.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
I don't remember being that deep.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I didn't know that I was that deep because your
coach was going, don't bring it out, don't bring it
out because.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
You wouldn't have brought it out if you knew where
you were.
Speaker 7 (37:50):
If I would, yeah, if I would have known where
I was, I wouldn't have brought it out. But I
wish they would have gave me the one o nine.
I mean, my they went off my front.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Do you feel like it's one on nine?
Speaker 7 (37:58):
It should have been one o nine. I think my
back foot was like almost touching out of bounce, you know, so, uh,
but it was went O Waight tied the record at
the time. It's since been broken. But yeah, that play was.
It was crazy. I just saw a free runner coming
I was able to make him miss. I saw someone
getting ready to hit me, and I just like tensed up,
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and luckily John Coon was there to like hold me
up and push me forward. And then I just saw
green grass and I was trying to get home.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Man, what's that feel like to run and just feel like, yeah,
what's it feel like? Run?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Like?
Speaker 4 (38:34):
When do you look up at the scorebar?
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Are you one of those guys that look up at
scorebhere like, oh my god, I'm out?
Speaker 7 (38:39):
Like No, I've always I've always thought I was fast,
but I never thought I was like that fast. So
I'm always like looking back like there's somebody here, like
I'm getting ready to get caught. But that was a
special one.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Would you prefer kickoff or punt? I have my own
feeling on it, but I want to hear what you'd say.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
I love punt more.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Do you really I would have done the complete opposite direction.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Feels vulnerable. Vulnerable?
Speaker 7 (39:03):
No, I can if you look up, I can still
see you. I can still see you, know I can.
I can still see what's going on down there, and
I can control that. And I again, I'm I'm very
analytical when it came to the game. I would line
up at if the punter's average was forty five, I
would line up at forty six, and that would tell
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me like, hey, if he kicks it over my head,
I should have space. If I have to run forward,
it's probably gonna be a fair catch. So that's how
I operated. So it was a lot easier to control
the environment as a punt returner, whereas a kickoff returner
you are running full speed through a little bitty gap
and hoping it doesn't close up. And I've taken some
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shots on kickoff, so like I'm I'm a big component
for punting.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
But catching a punt's got to be much more difficult
than the kickoff.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
I would say, not because it's a spiral. Yeah, it's
a spiral.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
It's just like it's just like you run fast. What
do you think? It's a new kickoff role.
Speaker 7 (40:05):
I love it. I love the I love that it
brings to that part of the game back Like we've
how many kickoff or terms have we seen for touchdowns already?
Speaker 3 (40:12):
This?
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Yeah, it's not just to play this workless anymore.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Yes, Yeah, even if it's not a touchdown like you're saying,
I'm brought out to the forty two, the forty nine,
like it matters. And it used to just be okay,
we'll go for the kickoff, all right, another commercial break,
touch back, and now it does it actually factors into
the game, which it looks weird still, but I really
like the new kickoff.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
Yeah, it does look really weird.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
You know.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
I think that's the NFL, you know, putting their band
aid on things of trying to make the game look safer.
Like I think, I feel like there's only so much
you can do to make that game safer. I mean,
it is what it is. When it comes to that,
they want to make the game safer, let's let's take
turf out.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
But yeah, I mean we're going to do there. Now,
you were out in LA.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
You said last week you were on Good Morning Football
and tell us to talk to us about what you
were promoting.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
Yes, special Forces, I'm on the Fox show, on the show.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Did the show.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
I did the show, so I got the show. You
should do it.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
I'm not doing the show.
Speaker 7 (41:20):
You should do it.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
I'm not doing the show.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
No, no, I'm not even saying that. But I have
friends that have done it and they're like, dude, it's hard, yes,
but you it was hard for you, Uh, the physical
part not as much.
Speaker 7 (41:31):
It was it was demanding. It was a lot. But
at the same time, you have real housewives and you know,
influencers there.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Jesse did it.
Speaker 7 (41:39):
Yes, Andrew, Yes, so we we It was seven of
us that live here in Nashville.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
There's seven people, seven.
Speaker 7 (41:47):
People from Nashville that were on the show Where'd You Go?
We were in Morocco. Beautiful, we were, I mean as
beautiful as it could be for for what we were doing.
But it was one of the most incredible experiences that
I've ever done.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
It gave me a greater appreciation for, uh, the military.
I've always had a tremendous amount of respect for the
sacrifices that they make. But to be able to live
it day after day after day, to be on edge,
and the feeling that you would have that you you
can't you can't relax at any moment because.
Speaker 6 (42:29):
Would they got they call you any time, or they
could just make something happening they could make.
Speaker 7 (42:32):
Yeah, they could, they could. They could call you at
any moment, and you would have to be on the
parade square, you know, sometimes within two or three minutes.
So if you got too comfortable and you kicked your
boots off and you didn't fill up your water bottle, uh,
you didn't have your backpack packed to a certain weight, like,
there would be consequences.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
For that like I got.
Speaker 7 (42:57):
I got my whole water bottle and I can't even
remember the name of it, but I'm not supposed to
call a water bottle. I get in trouble that. But
you had to keep that full to the brim. If
it wasn't full to the brim, they would take it
out and pull it over your head you and then
you wouldn't have water. So it was like you you
had to make sure that you kept all your things prepared,
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because that's just if if you're called out for a mission,
then you want to have every sip of water that
you can have because you don't know how long until
you're going to be back in a safe place with
safe water. So that was kind of we would go
through all these courses, but at the same time, you're
living the psychological life of what someone in that position
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would How long were you gone? I can't tell you
how long I was on the show, gone like I was.
I was gone for two weeks, no contact with family.
They took our phone the day before we started. I
couldn't talk to my kids.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
That has to be a psychological grind too, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
Yeah, I mean, which was great because you're walking into
a new environment with a bunch of people. You know,
some of us knew each other, but a bunch of
people that you don't know, eighteen contestants and you're learning
about each other in the moment, And it really took
me back to being a kid and having those moments
because you know, like now it's just you can ask
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chat ChiPT about anything, right, So it's just it's different
meeting someone and getting to know them on a genuine
level and then after the fact going and reading about,
you know, what happened in their life.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Well, it was harder psychologically doing a to today football
camp or actually being on the.
Speaker 7 (44:41):
Show, actually been on the show, really yes, because I
mean football's football. You know the expectation, you know what's coming.
And a funny story from the show is, you know,
sometimes you might have those two days or you may
have like that long hard walk through that you're going
to do later in the day that coach like gives
your bone, throws your bone. Well, I thought like our
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DS was throwing us a bone one day. Come to
find out that was not the case, and I took
the bait and we all had to pay a punishment
for it.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
So yeah, yeah, dang, are you happy you did it.
Speaker 7 (45:10):
I am. I am well, I do ever ever do
it again? No, but I am happy that I did
it again. I thought that I was going to learn
something about myself, and I just found out that I'm
selfish to think that because it was about me finding
out what the men and women that serve our country
do for us to have the freedom to have this
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conversation right now.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
That's super cool.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
That's really cool. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:37):
My friend Jamielyn Spiars did it the year before and
she was like, hey, pretty is gonna call you?
Speaker 5 (45:43):
And I had done that show.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
I got to do it.
Speaker 5 (45:45):
I did Dance on the Stars. I know Greg Jennings
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
Because he won.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
It was the same year.
Speaker 5 (45:50):
No, I did it after you because I want to
oh yeah, yeah, one one.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
But Greg won as well, and so there's like a bond,
it's like trauma bonding of all the winners of that show.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
Yes, that don't come from any background to dance.
Speaker 6 (46:04):
And so immediately when I got on the show and
then I started doing pretty well, Greg we hit me
up on DM.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
He was like, yo, like I'm proud.
Speaker 6 (46:10):
We didn't even know each other, but he's like, I
know exactly what you're going through, and yeah, it's like
it's really weird and you feel like you're isolated, but
you come out with the people that you did it
with and it's not the same, but you're like you.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
Know them better.
Speaker 6 (46:24):
You've been through some crap together. And that's what that
show felt like a little bit too. But we were
gone for like four months.
Speaker 7 (46:30):
Did you get to stay in a luxury hotel when
you were doing that?
Speaker 5 (46:32):
I had to work, so no.
Speaker 6 (46:33):
I had to stay in a tiny apartment away from
everybody else, next to a studio because I had to.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
Work every morning.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
You stayed in a tiny apartment?
Speaker 5 (46:39):
Yeah, no, tiny because I had to go live in
a different part of the city.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Nobody else on that show had to work while they
were doing it, but me have limited I can't run fast,
so I had to work.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
So I worked and I toured on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
It was a lot.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
It was a lot. But what's Greg like as a dude?
Speaker 7 (46:56):
Greg was great?
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Older?
Speaker 7 (46:59):
He was so Greg was seven years older than me.
Speaker 5 (47:05):
Great.
Speaker 7 (47:06):
I learned so much from him. I learned so much
watching him play, watching the way that he moved he
ran routes, watching him as.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
A dad, like great dad great Minnesota.
Speaker 7 (47:17):
Yeah, great dad, Like he was. He was a role
model for me. I don't know if he knows that
or not, but I watched every movie he made, he
walked into anywhere. I'm watching the way that he talks
to people. I'm talking and watching the way that he operated.
His football knowledge was through the roof. He he was great.
Speaker 5 (47:41):
That's that's cool. He's always been super cool to me. Yeah,
well thanks for coming over, man, This has been awesome.
Did you two never play together?
Speaker 4 (47:47):
We never played together.
Speaker 7 (47:48):
No, no cross across the theficial path.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
I saw you in a picture of his I don't know,
is it a school thing? And you were like, I
mean here, you guys are both at the same school
event or something.
Speaker 7 (47:59):
Throwing water.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Got him good, so he was trying to scheme it
up to get me back. So mad he had Decker
try to come tackle me. I mean, I hate Clay
Matthews in the chest and I thought he was going
to straight kill me.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
He was so mad at me. Did you see what?
Speaker 7 (48:18):
Yeah, you were right there.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Yeah he was so mad, But I just that was That's.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
One of my joys is to go to that outdoor
field day and I get these water balloons and anybody
that doesn't expect it to come.
Speaker 4 (48:30):
I mean I crushed newcomers too, so Cob came out there.
Speaker 7 (48:36):
It's been great. Yeah, it's been great. I love you know,
just the community. Uh, just like you said, just the
school that we at. We have a lot of families
with similar backgrounds and understanding of life. And it's been fun.
I've enjoyed and my kids are thriving here.
Speaker 4 (48:53):
They love it.
Speaker 7 (48:53):
They this is the first place that they've been for
a calendar year in school, so they've enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
That. Isn't that wild? Yes, Like when they finally get
somewhere and you're like, when do we meet it? Moving?
Where are we going next? You're like, no, there's is home.
This is it.
Speaker 7 (49:06):
This is where we are.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
You said you played tennis, not pick a ball. You're
a tennis player.
Speaker 7 (49:10):
I just got in. My wife got into it and
I like got into it with her, and I was like, oh,
that's kind of fun. We actually played in a mixed
doubles match and like, you know me, I'm thinking rolled
the ball out there. It doesn't matter what the sport is. Like,
we're getting ready to go, you know. No, we got
drilled we got drilled. I was like, okay, give me
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five years.
Speaker 6 (49:34):
Okay, yeah, Randall, good to see you man, Thank you
so much. All right, thanks to Randall Copp for coming in.
That's Matt Castle, that's kick Off Kevin, that's Brandon Ray.
I'm Bobby Bones. Thank you so much for watching it.
If you don't mind, I guess the one asked. I
don't ask for much, but I'll make this one ask
if you enjoyed this episode. Maybe you're a Packer fan,
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maybe you're a Randall Copp fan, maybe you're just an
NFL fan. You don't mind sharing this episode of your
story being like, hey, here's a podcast you guys should
check it out. NFL podcast That would help us a
time because we depend on you guys and we'd like
to keep doing it.
Speaker 5 (50:07):
So thank you. We will see you next week. We've
had lots to say. Goodbye, everybody.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got lots, Just say.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
We got loss, just saved what the becker here?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
And we hope you say because.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
We got lost, just say, yeah, we got lots.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Just say here's.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Bobby That all right?
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Welcome to another episode of Lots to Say.
Speaker 6 (00:36):
We did two this week because we had pretty much
an hour here with Randall Cobb, who I think a
Randall Cobb is like playing that slot in Green Bay,
making all those catches across the middle, being quick.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
When Rogers went to the Jets, he went with them.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
So and also Randall Cobb was always big for fantasy,
like there'd be just random weeks we'd have like nineteen
twenty twenty one points. So super cool that Randall came over.
You can follow him on Twitter and Instagram Our Cob eighteen.
And we do talk about the Special Forces show on Fox,
and I'm glad Matt asked about that he's doing that,
and so for sure watch that show if it's something
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that would interest you. But Randall Cobb got a whole
list here. Former NFL wide receiver Aaron Rodgers is the
godfather of one of his sons and was at his wedding.
So when we talk about Aaron Rodgers, know that there's
a relationship more than just quarterback wide receiver. He was
the sixty fourth overall pick in the twenty eleven NFL Draft,
which is the second round Pro Bowler All Rookie Team
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of twenty eleven First team All American. Went in college,
two time first team All SEC, fifty seven career touchdowns
at the time. He set the record for the longest
kickoff return in the NFL with one hundred and eight
yard return, which we do talk about it. Scored five
game winning fourth quarter touchdowns, went back to Kentucky to
finish his degree in twenty sixteen while.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
In the NFL. And I could keep going.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
But Randall Cobb, super nice guy, who were so excited
to have him periods.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yes, sir, the.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Simulator, he pointed it out as soon as he sat down.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Yeah, he said, I think we're sitting a golf simulator.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
Before you see my game.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
We've got some work today. We've got a little bit
of work today.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Swings after right in here, go to see you man,
ready to see you too.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Well, let's just start how much do you keep up
with the current landscape of football?
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (02:28):
I am teetering right now. My wife the other day
last Sunday, she was like, you haven't watched this much
football ever since I've known you, and Uh, I think
last year was a little bit of a transition, you know,
not playing. Uh, but this year I'm I'm back on
the couch enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Let me ask you this, are you one of those
guys that will watch a particular game.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Are you a red zone guy? I've burned into a
red zone guy?
Speaker 7 (02:51):
So I have red zone on and then like, so
the way I got to set up, I got four
screens red zone on. I'll have two games going and
then maybe we'll see who the third game is down here.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
For the first time this past week, I had a
little over stimulus where I was like, I can't watch
red zone.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
It was too much.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
My wife looked at me and goes, I think this
is football for people with eighty.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
D I think for the first time ever, because that's
normally not what happens to me. But it was bouncing
so much, and my wife was watching a little with
me too. She was like, how do you do this?
And I thought to myself, I don't know, I can't.
And also, it's like I got fantasy, I got I'm gambling.
It's like I got eight things happening aside from the
eight games happening at once.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Did a little bit. I had to take a breath,
step away.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
I stepped away to the Cowboys game, which was then
like eighty to eighty in the fourth quarter, which was
like its own red zone channel, insane, that game bouncing
so much. We put the Cowboys homet up here because
you had a little stint with the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
There we go, soda cast cast man.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Hell, a little stint one year stint?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
How long did you play the Cowboys?
Speaker 7 (03:52):
That was a year?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Two?
Speaker 5 (03:53):
What was that experience like for you?
Speaker 7 (03:54):
It was great. It was a lot of fun. You know,
we went eight and eight, which doesn't sound like that
should be a lot of fun. But it was a
great group of guys.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Dak.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
That was Zeke right after you signed hill big deal
to come back to the Cowboys. I was there that
whole year. That was Garrits last year. He ended up
getting fired at the end of the season, and then
they brought in Mike McCarthy, who was my coach my
entire career. And you know, my wife she still kicks
me for not signing back with the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
How was that transition though, because you're with Green Bay
for that whole what first nine eight years?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Eight years, eight years, and then you go to the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
What was it like just going into that new environment
culture wise, because you're used to one thing for so long, sure,
and then you make that transition go to new organization,
see how things are run.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
Yeah, I think that, you know, you have this perception
of what the Cowboys organization is from the outside, and
then once you get in and you start to see
and you start to pull back the layers, you start
to see how they operate. And I loved it. I
had a blast. You know, I felt like I was
part of the Jones family. You know, you see everyone
running around the facility. Charlotte's has her own operation, Hayley
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has her own operation. Shay was in the equipment room,
who was one of the grandsons, was in the equipment
room when I was there. So everyone has their piece
and it it really makes you feel like you're a
part of the family.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Did you feel like the Cowboys like that was a
well run, well organized organization.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Without a doubt. I mean, between Green Bay and then Dallas,
you can see a lot of similarities. I would say
the difference is ownership obviously, right. Green Bay doesn't have
an owner. They don't really spend the money. They kind
of hoard it all and the cowboys everywhere you go,
it's it's luxury, you know. We had They were doing
construction at the facility in Frisco the year I was there,
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so we had like valet service, like when we're pulling.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Up for practice.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I was a year before that we were at the
ranch and I was like, there's no valet.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Everybody's like, oh, it's like the taj mahal right.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
And then they had like a member's only restaurant that
like you would see businessman out watching practice, like having
work meetings and enjoying lunch and having drinks and watching
us practice. So it was a different, different experience than
what I had in Green Bay, but it was a
lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Now, you say you talked about Jerry, but did Jerry
also come and talk to the team sometimes before? Oh yeah,
Garrett would That was the thing that blew my mind, yes,
because you never see that, right, you come in after
a game and the coach addresses the team, talks of it,
says what he ever he's gonna say. Jerry was the
first one to always talk, and it was that that
blew my mind.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
It did. And then he would have the media in there,
like to have his press conference before they started interviewing
the players or their coaches. So that was definitely different.
But it was cool. I I really, I really enjoyed that,
and I have a pretty cool story with Jerry. Just
right after they hired McCarthy, I went to the press
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conference and as we're leaving, he puts his arm around me,
like I didn't want you to get lonely down here.
So like in my mind, I'm like, oh, yeah, i'm't
ready sign back to the Cowboys, easy, no question. Then
Houston come in later with the offer that I just
couldn't refuse.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
So whenever your coach comes down to Dallas, because it
wasn't like he left Green Bay to come to Dallas
right like he got fired, he was gone, it was
it was out for a bit. He was in the
basement watching film, is what they would say. Yeah, and
then he came out. Was he the reason that you
came here was his knowledge of you. Is that what
helped get you to Dallas?
Speaker 7 (07:27):
No, so I went to Dallas the year before. So
I was on three separate teams in three years in
a row, and all three coaches got fired. So I
think we have a comment nominators there. But twenty eighteen
McCarthy got fired. Twenty nineteen, I go to Dallas. Garrett
gets fired right after that season. Twenty twenty, the COVID year,
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they're hiring McCarthy and I ended up going to Houston.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
So he didn't with him. You were there, he came in.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
But it was crazy because after they hired him, I
think the assumption was like, I'm signing back for sure.
So like all the coaches that were on staff currently
were like, hey, like trying trying to tell me to
put a word in for for for you know that
next season.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So you grew up in East Tennessee. You were a
three three sport athlete growing up. When did you know
that football was going to be your path that you
were going to take moving forward?
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Probably it was probably I was La Bloomer. I'm young
for my class. I started school with five. I graduated
high school seventeen. I probably should have been held back
a year would probably would have opened up some more
opportunities for me. But I played quarterback in high school.
Undersized at a two way school. Uh you know, we
had five hundred kids in our school, but we had
a dominant football program all four of my years. We
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want to state championship fifty five and five. I didn't
plan until my junior year. Like we had. We had
some guys on our team number one tight end defensive
end in the nation, ended up going to Florida State
or running back to sign with Tennessee but had to
go to Juco defensive end quarterback. This is the school same, No,
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this is a this is a public sta. We just
had some guys. I mean it's a really small community.
But just like athletes glore. Uh So for me, I
didn't play like I didn't start until my junior year.
So like I'm always like looking up to these guys.
I would go to camps. I remember going to Clemson
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camp and the quarterback coach there told me that, you know,
my best bet was go D three. So in my mind,
I'm like, you know, if I can go to a
Vandy or a Wake Forest and like get into one
of these really high level institutions, like I can go
and get a great job after my career is over. Right,
That's where my mindset was. And you know, I went
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to Vandy, they didn't offer me. I went to Wake Forest,
they didn't offer me. I'm out there playing dB receiver
quarterback like anything, like anything, and looking for a scholarship
and finally I get my first one before my senior
year from Middle Tennessee State, and then Kentucky offer not
not too long after that, and then Tennessee CA in
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like late into my senior year.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Is that where like Middle Tennessee opens up a door
for other coaches to look at you.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Does that happen at all?
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Where a scholarship's offered and you're like, I got this,
Any other coaches may be like, h all right, if
they're offering you, maybe I should investigate why they're offering you.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Did that happen at all?
Speaker 7 (10:21):
I think so? I think you would say so, especially
when you start getting into some of them top tier schools.
I would assume that USC if they see that somebody
is offered by Notre Dame, they're going to check out
this kid, right, they're going to see what he's all about.
I would assume that that happens in sports.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Why did you go to Kentucky?
Speaker 7 (10:39):
The coaching staff I was there. Rich Brooks was the
head coach when I was being recruited. Randy Sanders was
a quarterback coach, you know, a guy that coached at
Tennessee for a long time that I had a lot
of respect for. Joker Phillips was offensive coordinator, and I
just felt really comfortable we had grown a relationship. I
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could trust what they were telling me. They told me
that they would give me an opportunity to play quarterback,
but like they're not guaranteeing that anything happens from that,
And that's all I wanted was a chance.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
So you wanted to go to college and play quarterback?
Speaker 7 (11:11):
I did.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
That was your primary thing, and you actually ended up
playing quarterback your freshman year at at Kentucky. Talk about
that experience and then when did the transformation start to
where you moved to wide receiver.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Well, yeah, I came in so my going into my
freshman year during training camp, you know that was two
days back in that day, right, so we would have
one practice half the team with practice the first practice
and then there was like a thirty minute special teams
gap and then the second group would practice the second
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half of practice. For the first few days of camp,
so what they were having me do was I would
play quarterback in one practice special team. I had to
practice both practices for the first few days. And then
you know that that led to me having an opportunity.
I started as a receiver in the first game, and
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I think it was about a second third game we
started rotating me Mike Cartline, who was our old other quarterback,
in back and forth, and then I think I ended
up starting like three or four games at quarterback that season.
I mean I I think I threw two touchdowns and receptions.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Right, hey, I got it in.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
I got it in. But we had a game. We
had a game against Georgia where Stafford aj Green those
guys were on the other side, and it went back
and forth, and I remember we had a drive where
I let us down the field and then threw a
pick like on a fifteen yard line opportunity to score.
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And I was like man like after that game, like
obviously hurt and pain that we lost, but I think
it was like the realization of like Oh maybe I
can really, I can really do something with.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
So when was the transition where you fully were focused
on playing wide receiver.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
It never really was a full time thing for me
my junior My sophomore year, I moved to receiver, but
I was still meet with the quarterbacks. My junior year,
I think I was meeting with the receivers at that point,
but we're still doing a lot of wildcat quarterback stuff
like that was a huge part of our offense. So
I was pretty raw when I came into the league
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as far as receiver play. I just hadn't played as much.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So you get drafted in the second round though, so
they saw the potential they knew. But talk to me
about when you came into that meeting room. They just
came off of Super Bowl, right. You got Donald Driver,
You've got Jordi Nelson, you got Greg Jennings, who was
a teammate of mine.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I mean, you had some dudes. You had Jones in there.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yes, what was that like coming into that room with
that and that ENVI, with so many established guys.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
It was the greatest thing that ever happened to me.
I not only walked into a room with great players,
but great men, all of them married, all of them kids.
I'm like, I have nothing in common with these guys,
like besides the football part, right, Like I'm a twenty
year old kid. That's like living life, Like go to
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Green Bay. Not a whole lot to do up there,
you know, outside of football. So got to focus in
on the game. But I got to watch them every
single day, whether it be practiced, the way they operated
in the film room. Donald was in year thirteen, I
believe at that point, Like I got to see his
process of like what he did to keep his body
fresh and ready to go. Obviously Aaron spinning.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
It and.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
At quarterback. So I was very fortunate to be able
to play with a group like that, and I wasn't
forced to go out and be expected to play fifty
plays offensively. And you know, like I said, I was
pretty raw. Like my my whole role was as a
special teamer was punt return and kick return, and like
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I would come in occasionally on offense. But like my
first touchdown, I ran the wrong route.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Like what happened there?
Speaker 7 (15:20):
He gave us a signal and like it was it
was a three by one, and like he gave like
I thought he was looking at me like telling me, hey,
I need you to run this slint right here. No,
he was telling us like slant flat right. So I'm
at the number two and instead of running the flat route,
I run a slant. He sees me pop open, he
hits me across the middle, and I go score. I
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had no clue until I got back to the sideline
that I ran the wrong route.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
To tell you what did he say?
Speaker 7 (15:48):
But he didn't even tell me. He congratulated me on
the touchdowye and then finally like, uh, you know, after
the celebration and we were sitting over there, they were like, hey,
you know you ran the wrong route right. I was like, no,
he gave me a slint. He's like no, like you
got a flat that yes.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
So I went up to Eugene, Oregon, and we had
spent some time with landing in those guys and they
were like, think about Eugene is it's great, but there's
nothing to do.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Like there's some stuff to do, but there's nothing to do.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
So a lot of those guys stay out of trouble
because there's not like a big city to go to
where there are a lot of options and a lot
of resources for trouble.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Is Green Bay like that it is?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
It is like I mean when you when you talk
about football, that that is the haven, that's the place
you want to be. The stadium is the biggest building
in the entire city, right, Like, if you're standing on
top of the stadium, there's there's no skyscrapers that's higher
than that point. The place shuts down on Sundays after games,
like you're ordering Papa John's or Longhorns to the house.
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There's not a whole lot going outside of that. And
I think as a young player that helps because it
feels like a college town without all the distractions of
the thirty thousand kids that's running around and the frat
parties and sororities and all that whole scene. Right, so
it allows you to focus on what you need to do.
You know, when you get bored, you go to the
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facility and you're getting extra body work or you're watching
film and doing those things.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Talk to me about Aaron as a leader.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Was he one of those guys that was very vocal
and get on you, like when you did something wrong.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I'm sure he lets you know about it.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
But was he a you know, father like with the
facial disappointment when you look at your kids and just
be like, I believe you did that, or yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
I saw those games on Sunday. He's still getting into
those guys, like, yes, that's that's what it was like.
There was an expectation like that, that's just the standard
that he has, Like if you're going to play with him,
you have to understand that. It's not it's not like you,
it's like what he expects from you. And if you
want to be on the field, like you have to
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hold that standard. And you know, that was one of
the things that was so pivotal for us in our
room is we had a bunch of guys that understood
ball and like we didn't make mental errors like that.
If you had mental errors, it was very minimal. Like
I think I went a few seasons where I had
like one for the entire season, right, So that's just
kind of what it was like. That was the expectation.
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And you know, if you want at the ball, like
you got to be where you got to be.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
I'm assuming he did the work first and foremost with
the expectation of you do it as well.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yeah, he knew it to expected you guys to know it.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Yes, I mean, I mean I always say I got
my doctorate from Rogers University, like and when it comes
to football, like I know ex's and o's. You want
to talk about protections, I can get into some of
that with you, just from from my quarterback background. So
being able to see a defense from a quarterback perspective
as a receiver, that gave me an upper hand for sure.
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But yeah, he was he understood the offense when he
played the same offense for a decade plus, Like it
allows you to play free and fast and understand what
the concepts are, what the signals are, where you need
to be, why you need to be there, where you
are in the progression, like all the new details of
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the game. So that was that was something that really
helped out. Now he was a master also at the
line of scrimmage. How much of the offense were you,
guys always prepared for an adjustment at the line scrimmage
he sees something. You always would see the signals available
and the different adjustments that he'd make.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
But how much would you say when.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You go into a week that you've got to just
be prepared for him to change stuff at any point.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
Yeah, I would say we had a pretty good idea
based off of you know, when you look at the
numbers of what they do on third down or defensively,
you have a good understanding of what teams are going
to do going into it with the game plan. But
in game adjustments happened, and that's part of the game.
He was one that something could happen in practice in
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week three and we talk about it, We talk about
it on the field of practice, we talk about it
in the meeting room, and we may not hear or
talk about that again until week ten in the middle
of a game and we have this same look and
it's like, hey, remember acts from week three when we
were talking about this at practice and we talked about
like he's expecting you to renew and remember those kind
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of little details so we can implement him in the
middle of a game.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
In week ten when you go to the Jets, was
it a lot because of your knowledge of what he
was trying to do and what he was doing.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Yeah, I was planning on retiring. I was after going
to Green Bay, going back to Green Bay, I got
traded back from Houston. It was like, man, that's a
full circle. Moment I get to come back to where
it all started. For me, I was at peace, and
obviously the Jets made that move to get him. It's
crazy because we had conversations about playing in New York
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a long time ago, and it was just like, Oh,
that's never going to happen, but it comes to be.
And we had that moment and that opportunity, and it
was a great situation. You had Robert Salad, who I
thought was a great coach defensive minded, Aaron was gonna
have a little bit of flexibility offensively to implement some
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of what he does. They had a great running game
with Breis Hall. We felt like we had enough pieces there,
and then four plays into the season, the whole thing
blows up so long, without a doubt, without a doubt,
and I was actually surprised they kept me as long
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as they did. I thought that like after that that
they would, you know, start making moves.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
What do you remember endgame about that? And what and
how how fast did you know what had happened with him?
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Uh? Nobody was talking about it. On the sideline. We
were trying to figure out, like what happened? I think
they were trying to keep our mind in the game
and not tell us exactly what it was. So it
wasn't until halftime for me. I walked into halftime, immediately
ran back to the to the training room, and I
just seen him laying on the bench, and as soon
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as he sees me, it's just like he started crying,
and I was like, dang man, stuff. So I knew,
I knew what it was at that point. But yeah,
and then we went out and finished that game and
somehow we.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Won that game.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
We won it.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Yeah, it was like a crazy punt return to end it.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Did you know, knowing him, did you think that he
was going to come back and play the following year.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
I I thought for sure that he wouldn't want to
go out that way. Like I thought for sure like
that would be the case. And there were a lot
of things that I saw during that season. You talk
about organizations, like after being in Dallas and being in
Green Bay and seeing how certain things have run, you
realize some of what's happening that's more than football, and
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it's like I'm sorry, I'm good, I'm good. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm good. So you know, it was unfortunate, but you know,
he obviously played that second year in New York. And
you know, I think anyone that's came off of injury
knows that that first season back you're not quite up
to your standard because you've been rehabbing the entire time.
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I'm rather than focusing on your training.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
We saught with him saw with Kirk Cousins, right, you
know that Achilles. Usually they say he can come back,
but you're not fully back until a year and four or.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Five months easily.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Did you think about maybe moving to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
For a little bit?
Speaker 7 (23:21):
What's crazy is my my favorite childhood team growing up
was the Stillers. I grew up behind his Ward fan
like that was my guy, like Randall L. Cordell Stewart.
My dad was a huge Pittsburgh fan because lyn Swan's
grandmother lived across the street from him when he was
growing up, so Lynce Wan would come back to town
and play pass with my dad growing up as a kid.
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So I grew up like with fat heads of Jerome
Bettis and you know some of those legendary still in
his moments that I remember watching with my dad on
the couch. Like I was a huge Stealers fan growing up,
but no, I was at that point I was, I
was ready.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
He made some what five game winning catches in your career?
Does one standout you in your mind because in the
most pivotal moments you stepped up in these these games.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Yeah, I would say probably. It would probably be the
Bears game twenty thirteen to get us into the playoffs.
To special moment here, special moment. So twenty thirteen, I
broke my leg midseason, like low hit. I thought I
blew everything out, just had a plateau fracture, missed ten weeks.
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Aaron broke his collar bone same season. He was out
like eight weeks. We both come back for that Bears
game and we had to win to get into the playoffs.
I think I played like twenty snaps that game, just
on a very limited basis. I think we had like
three fourth down conversions on that final drive. And then
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it was fourth and eight from the forty eight and
we're in a huddle during a time out and Aaron
basically is like, Hey, okay, this this is what I'm thinking.
Jordi was at the Hey, I want you to run
like a deep cross Randall, get past the sticks, run
a pivot right there past the sticks. JJ, who was
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playing outside I want you to run a Puma comeback
route fifteen yards outside of number one. We get up
to the line and we realize they're in zero, so
zero blitzing everyone playing man across the board and I
see Chris Kanti, who's at safety, who's covering me. He's
like standing right where I have to stop, so the
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ball snapping. I come off the ball and I just
remember looking and seeing his eyes in the backfield, and
I'm like, I can take it right here, and i
just throw my hand up and like hoping that he
sees me throw my hand up. And the next thing
I know is I look up and the balls in
the air, and it felt like the little giants. It's
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like that those are always the hardest one because it's
like it's so easiest right there, just make the play.
But luckily I was able to make the catch, dive
into the end zone. Actually just had that jersey, that
jersey's been in storage forever. Just had that jersey framed.
I still have the orange stain on it from from
the Bears logo. I still have the helmet with the
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grass that was stuck in my helmet that I got
put in a shadow box. But yeah, those. That was
probably one of those moments that I look back like, Wow,
that was that was special.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
You guys owned the Bears.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
Who did you? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:49):
It was like it didn't matter what year it was,
what the records were. You guys owned the Bears. Why
was that?
Speaker 7 (26:58):
I wish I could tell you that I knew exactly why.
I think for a long time we just kind of
had their number because we we knew what they were
going to do, and we just knew that they couldn't
stop us. And it was just I think that confidence
that you play with where it's like we've been here,
we've done that, we know what this this field is
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going to do. Like you go down to Chicago and
the field is beat up. You got to put in
those you got to put in those long studs. Yeah,
you know what it is like, you know what kind
of game is going to be like, and you just
you go out there and you just play with a
confidence that's that's unmatched.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
You were talking about you have the jersey, the helmet.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I remember one day we were at school and you
pulled up and you were I think you're moving houses
And he opens up the trunk to put his kids
backpack in there and he's got all these different jerseys.
So you know you used to trade jerseys and we
talked about the cast. Did you ever do that? I
was like, man, it was my era was before that.
But what's your collection like? Because you have an incredible collection.
I saw those jersey I was like, Oh.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
They weren't all just yours?
Speaker 4 (28:01):
No, no, no.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
No, it was all it was all jersey swaps. Some
of my favorite ones are mostly my teammates that I
played against that went on to move to different teams.
Michaeh Micah Hyde in Buffalo, I got a chance to
play against him. I got Aaron's jersey from when I
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went to Dallas and we played Green Bay in Dallas.
I got his jersey from that. I got Tay's jersey
when I was in Houston and he was in Green Bay.
Those are probably some of my favorite ones. Dante high Tower,
who is a guy that you know, grew up here
in Tennessee. We played on an All Star team together
East versus West game back when they used to do that. Yes, yes,
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oh yeah, oh yeah, but that was that was That's
probably some of my favorites.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
How's your body now?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
It's good?
Speaker 7 (28:55):
Actually, I played tennis this morning, and I'm like, man,
this is this is nice to be able to move
around have some aches. You know, gotta gotta roll out
some mornings, uh, to get going. I still feel a
few of those hits, got to pop my neck every
now and then, but overall feel pretty good.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
So Green Bay this year, obviously they're off to a
good start. They made a little bit of a splash
with that trade early on in the season. What do
you think that just the outlook of their season looks like,
because I think that they're a Super Bowl contender without
a doubt in mind.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
Definitely, definitely. I think I think they're definitely a contender.
Bringing Micah in, Just the excitement that's around that alone,
the momentum that's built off of that him warring number
one who no one's wore number one since Curly Lambo,
which is mind blowing. That alone, I think elevates them
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to another place that allows that defense to play a
little bit more free. They're able to rush for and
keep their eyes on the quarterback, play a different style
of the game. Rashan Gary, who I think is a
great player, is now going to have more op ttunities
with one on ones with all the attention that Parsons
(30:09):
is going to get. One of the linebackers is playing
lights out right now. I'm blanking on his name. My
wife would hate me if I said this, but you know,
CT is a real thing and gets mad at.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Doesn't say.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
She's like, stop doing that, that's not What do you
think of Jordan Love? I'm a big fan. I'm a
big fan of Jordan. Just to see how much he's progressed.
I don't know if anyone could have saw that a
few years ago. Just to see his ability now and
his confidence that he plays with. Uh, some of the
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things that he was able to add to his game.
You know, when I was watching the other day seeing
them make the alpha call and and try to catch
Washington with too many people on the field, like that
was a huge thing that we used to do, and
you know people would call it stealing, but it's part
of the rules, so we He's been able to add
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that to his arsenal and understand when and how to
get that done. Those little those little things make a
huge difference as a quarterback. And Matt Laflour, I think
is an excellent play caller. He puts him in opportunities
to win. He makes the game easy and fun. He
creates matchups. I love his ability to take something that
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he saw from the week before and added to to
the game plan, and George's been executing it.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Were you shocked that they finally took a receiver in
the first round of Matthew.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yes, you're like saying there going.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I mean, the laundry list of high second round draft picks,
including yourself, was wild. But did you think that they
were finally gonna pull the trigger?
Speaker 7 (31:50):
I didn't think that they would, but I remember seeing
him on the board like and it was getting close
to Green Bay pick, and I was like, take him,
please take him. I got a chance to work with
with Golden for the draft or for the combine, so
like his agent and me, best friends, best friend, best
man in my wedding, I'm best legitimate legit. Yeah yeah,
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Ed Barry incredible story. We can get to that too.
But uh, he asked me if I could work with
him like excellent x's and o's like leading up to
the to the combine, because that's a huge part of
the combine, being able to talk about ball, being able
to talk to x's and o's, so I got to
work with him a little bit and see his passion
and desire for the game and his thirst for knowledge
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and wanting to grow, and like that is the perfect
fit in Green Bay. And one of the things that
I continue to try to reach out to him and
mentor him as as much as I can with is
like not pressing because I feel like when I watch
him right now, it's like he wants to make a
play so bad. And you know, I think that there
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is an expectation with him being the first round or
the first round pick that the Packers made that receiver
in a long time that he feels like he has
to live up to. But the special thing about Green
Bay is like that receiver room, there's always been so
many guys. They've done a great job. Duda's doting a
great job in the draft of bringing in guys and
it not being one person that has to do majority
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of the work. Like Romeo Dobbs is a guy, okay,
like he he deserves a big bag and I'm sure
he's gonna get it at some point. Christian Watson, when
he gets healthy, is going to be a huge part.
Jayden Reid, I mean now that he's out you know,
he's it looks like he's going to be out for
a while. There's a collar bone. I would imagine that
this is going to be Golden's time to get a
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few more targets and be able to showcase what he
can do.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Did you ever jump with Rogers Cadence, Yes, yes, for sure,
because you're definitely farther than alignment, and I mean just physics,
you're not gonna get it as loud. But god, dang,
that is a tough even watching him now, he's still
got it. I was still pulling people off. Did you
have to go and be like, don't jump, don't jump,
don't jump and still with flinch.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
So it's a funny play. And I actually saw one
of the tight end I think it was Tucker Kraft.
He did it the other day against Washington. I did
that once against Washington in like twenty one. He did
his kidence. I tried to fake like they got before it.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Yeah, emotionally, we used to act like we used.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
To act like we you know, if we would jump,
we like we were, you know, fixing our knee pads
or something like that.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Never worked.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
It did sometimes you could get away with it as
long as you don't like over the top, and then
like start looking around like you might be able to
pull it off and get away with it.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I've messed myself up before where I'm going double kittings
and I go really hard and I forgot that, hey,
we're doing double kates. I'll step back. They called me
for a false start because I stepped and moved. Yeah,
because I moved, I can't motion or if you're to yeah,
your hands and do that. But I also remember when
you guys would go like the silent countsl I mean
he lift his foot up fifteen times to try to
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get defensive.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Oh, and I'm like, how the hell does anybody know
that you guys are live on cadence.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
I don't understand how like teams could get a good
jump on it, because we would we would have so
many cadences. We would have so many silent cadences thirty
two twenty one, like two fake kicks coming on the
third one, Like there was so many of those. We
would go on different colors. It might be green, Blue
might be the live color. It might be purple, it
might be yellow. You just like I don't understand, like
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how anyone. And I think that's one thing that is
really tough when you go to a new team that
you haven't had that consistency to play with, like for
offensive line to try because I mean, he's used that
as a as a benefit to him for so many
years because you know, obviously been in Green Bay so long,
most of his offensive line was always the same. So
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that was that was one of the things with the
Jets that was a little more difficult, and I would
assume that it probably is in Pittsburgh as well.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Something you mentioned is the amount of time that you
and Rodgers played together after that many years, were there
times where you didn't even have to say anything.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
You could just make the look or the gesture and
just know what each other meant.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
Yeah, So there were a lot of cases of that,
Like when you know, if you're giving a signal to
someone like you might want to be over the top
with it right like to make sure they got it well.
It would come to the point to where like he
wouldn't have to look at me, he could just like
give the signal without looking, and I knew like what
the adjustment was, what the what the route he was
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trying to get to.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Us, so you guys had to do some things off
the field. I know one of the things that you
guys did was go to Kentucky Derby because we would
go with our crew, right, yes, and we go the
same parties. We go to the Barnstable Brown parties. And
it always felt like we're kind of sizing each other
up because there's like the Green Bay Packers and we
had like all the Patriots guys, but we're.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Always on the same row.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
What were those experiences like from like a team building
because you guys look like you're having fun, but that's
a great environment, it is.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
You know.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
We always looked at y'all with envy because you know,
y'all flashing your rings and doing the whole thing, and
we bring the boom box out, bring the boom box.
It was always a good time. We always had a group,
good group of guys. And uh, you know that we're
getting a little older. It's kind of turned into a
retirement get together. You know, it's a few guys are
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still playing, but it's like, you know, we go back
into the old war stories and get to spend some
time together catch up.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Tell me about the one hundred and eight yard return.
I think it was your rookie year. It pops up
occasionally on my TikTok. I think it's still the record
or one of the longest returns ever. Do you remember
anything specifically about that play.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
I don't remember being that deep.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I didn't know that I was that deep because your
coach was going, don't bring it out, don't bring it
out because.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
You wouldn't have brought it out if you knew where
you were.
Speaker 7 (37:50):
If I would, yeah, if I would have known where
I was, I wouldn't have brought it out. But I
wish they would have gave me the one o nine.
I mean, my they went off my front.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Do you feel like it's one on nine?
Speaker 7 (37:58):
It should have been one o nine. I think my
back foot was like almost touching out of bounce, you know, so, uh,
but it was went O Waight tied the record at
the time. It's since been broken. But yeah, that play was.
It was crazy. I just saw a free runner coming
I was able to make him miss. I saw someone
getting ready to hit me, and I just like tensed up,
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and luckily John Coon was there to like hold me
up and push me forward. And then I just saw
green grass and I was trying to get home.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Man, what's that feel like to run and just feel like, yeah,
what's it feel like? Run?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Like?
Speaker 4 (38:34):
When do you look up at the scorebar?
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Are you one of those guys that look up at
scorebhere like, oh my god, I'm out?
Speaker 7 (38:39):
Like No, I've always I've always thought I was fast,
but I never thought I was like that fast. So
I'm always like looking back like there's somebody here, like
I'm getting ready to get caught. But that was a
special one.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Would you prefer kickoff or punt? I have my own
feeling on it, but I want to hear what you'd say.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
I love punt more.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Do you really I would have done the complete opposite direction.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Feels vulnerable. Vulnerable?
Speaker 7 (39:03):
No, I can if you look up, I can still
see you. I can still see you, know I can.
I can still see what's going on down there, and
I can control that. And I again, I'm I'm very
analytical when it came to the game. I would line
up at if the punter's average was forty five, I
would line up at forty six, and that would tell
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me like, hey, if he kicks it over my head,
I should have space. If I have to run forward,
it's probably gonna be a fair catch. So that's how
I operated. So it was a lot easier to control
the environment as a punt returner, whereas a kickoff returner
you are running full speed through a little bitty gap
and hoping it doesn't close up. And I've taken some
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shots on kickoff, so like I'm I'm a big component
for punting.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
But catching a punt's got to be much more difficult
than the kickoff.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
I would say, not because it's a spiral. Yeah, it's
a spiral.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
It's just like it's just like you run fast. What
do you think? It's a new kickoff role.
Speaker 7 (40:05):
I love it. I love the I love that it
brings to that part of the game back Like we've
how many kickoff or terms have we seen for touchdowns already?
Speaker 3 (40:12):
This?
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Yeah, it's not just to play this workless anymore.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Yes, Yeah, even if it's not a touchdown like you're saying,
I'm brought out to the forty two, the forty nine,
like it matters. And it used to just be okay,
we'll go for the kickoff, all right, another commercial break,
touch back, and now it does it actually factors into
the game, which it looks weird still, but I really
like the new kickoff.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
Yeah, it does look really weird.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
You know.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
I think that's the NFL, you know, putting their band
aid on things of trying to make the game look safer.
Like I think, I feel like there's only so much
you can do to make that game safer. I mean,
it is what it is. When it comes to that,
they want to make the game safer, let's let's take
turf out.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
But yeah, I mean we're going to do there. Now,
you were out in LA.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
You said last week you were on Good Morning Football
and tell us to talk to us about what you
were promoting.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
Yes, special Forces, I'm on the Fox show, on the show.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Did the show.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
I did the show, so I got the show. You
should do it.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
I'm not doing the show.
Speaker 7 (41:20):
You should do it.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
I'm not doing the show.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
No, no, I'm not even saying that. But I have
friends that have done it and they're like, dude, it's hard, yes,
but you it was hard for you, Uh, the physical
part not as much.
Speaker 7 (41:31):
It was it was demanding. It was a lot. But
at the same time, you have real housewives and you know,
influencers there.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Jesse did it.
Speaker 7 (41:39):
Yes, Andrew, Yes, so we we It was seven of
us that live here in Nashville.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
There's seven people, seven.
Speaker 7 (41:47):
People from Nashville that were on the show Where'd You Go?
We were in Morocco. Beautiful, we were, I mean as
beautiful as it could be for for what we were doing.
But it was one of the most incredible experiences that
I've ever done.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
It gave me a greater appreciation for, uh, the military.
I've always had a tremendous amount of respect for the
sacrifices that they make. But to be able to live
it day after day after day, to be on edge,
and the feeling that you would have that you you
can't you can't relax at any moment because.
Speaker 6 (42:29):
Would they got they call you any time, or they
could just make something happening they could make.
Speaker 7 (42:32):
Yeah, they could, they could. They could call you at
any moment, and you would have to be on the
parade square, you know, sometimes within two or three minutes.
So if you got too comfortable and you kicked your
boots off and you didn't fill up your water bottle, uh,
you didn't have your backpack packed to a certain weight, like,
there would be consequences.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
For that like I got.
Speaker 7 (42:57):
I got my whole water bottle and I can't even
remember the name of it, but I'm not supposed to
call a water bottle. I get in trouble that. But
you had to keep that full to the brim. If
it wasn't full to the brim, they would take it
out and pull it over your head you and then
you wouldn't have water. So it was like you you
had to make sure that you kept all your things prepared,
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because that's just if if you're called out for a mission,
then you want to have every sip of water that
you can have because you don't know how long until
you're going to be back in a safe place with
safe water. So that was kind of we would go
through all these courses, but at the same time, you're
living the psychological life of what someone in that position
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would How long were you gone? I can't tell you
how long I was on the show, gone like I was.
I was gone for two weeks, no contact with family.
They took our phone the day before we started. I
couldn't talk to my kids.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
That has to be a psychological grind too, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
Yeah, I mean, which was great because you're walking into
a new environment with a bunch of people. You know,
some of us knew each other, but a bunch of
people that you don't know, eighteen contestants and you're learning
about each other in the moment, And it really took
me back to being a kid and having those moments
because you know, like now it's just you can ask
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chat ChiPT about anything, right, So it's just it's different
meeting someone and getting to know them on a genuine
level and then after the fact going and reading about,
you know, what happened in their life.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Well, it was harder psychologically doing a to today football
camp or actually being on the.
Speaker 7 (44:41):
Show, actually been on the show, really yes, because I
mean football's football. You know the expectation, you know what's coming.
And a funny story from the show is, you know,
sometimes you might have those two days or you may
have like that long hard walk through that you're going
to do later in the day that coach like gives
your bone, throws your bone. Well, I thought like our
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DS was throwing us a bone one day. Come to
find out that was not the case, and I took
the bait and we all had to pay a punishment
for it.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
So yeah, yeah, dang, are you happy you did it.
Speaker 7 (45:10):
I am. I am well, I do ever ever do
it again? No, but I am happy that I did
it again. I thought that I was going to learn
something about myself, and I just found out that I'm
selfish to think that because it was about me finding
out what the men and women that serve our country
do for us to have the freedom to have this
(45:32):
conversation right now.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
That's super cool.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
That's really cool. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:37):
My friend Jamielyn Spiars did it the year before and
she was like, hey, pretty is gonna call you?
Speaker 5 (45:43):
And I had done that show.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
I got to do it.
Speaker 5 (45:45):
I did Dance on the Stars. I know Greg Jennings
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
Because he won.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
It was the same year.
Speaker 5 (45:50):
No, I did it after you because I want to
oh yeah, yeah, one one.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
But Greg won as well, and so there's like a bond,
it's like trauma bonding of all the winners of that show.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
Yes, that don't come from any background to dance.
Speaker 6 (46:04):
And so immediately when I got on the show and
then I started doing pretty well, Greg we hit me
up on DM.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
He was like, yo, like I'm proud.
Speaker 6 (46:10):
We didn't even know each other, but he's like, I
know exactly what you're going through, and yeah, it's like
it's really weird and you feel like you're isolated, but
you come out with the people that you did it
with and it's not the same, but you're like you.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
Know them better.
Speaker 6 (46:24):
You've been through some crap together. And that's what that
show felt like a little bit too. But we were
gone for like four months.
Speaker 7 (46:30):
Did you get to stay in a luxury hotel when
you were doing that?
Speaker 5 (46:32):
I had to work, so no.
Speaker 6 (46:33):
I had to stay in a tiny apartment away from
everybody else, next to a studio because I had to.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
Work every morning.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
You stayed in a tiny apartment?
Speaker 5 (46:39):
Yeah, no, tiny because I had to go live in
a different part of the city.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Nobody else on that show had to work while they
were doing it, but me have limited I can't run fast,
so I had to work.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
So I worked and I toured on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
It was a lot.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
It was a lot. But what's Greg like as a dude?
Speaker 7 (46:56):
Greg was great?
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Older?
Speaker 7 (46:59):
He was so Greg was seven years older than me.
Speaker 5 (47:05):
Great.
Speaker 7 (47:06):
I learned so much from him. I learned so much
watching him play, watching the way that he moved he
ran routes, watching him as.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
A dad, like great dad great Minnesota.
Speaker 7 (47:17):
Yeah, great dad, Like he was. He was a role
model for me. I don't know if he knows that
or not, but I watched every movie he made, he
walked into anywhere. I'm watching the way that he talks
to people. I'm talking and watching the way that he operated.
His football knowledge was through the roof. He he was great.
Speaker 5 (47:41):
That's that's cool. He's always been super cool to me. Yeah,
well thanks for coming over, man, This has been awesome.
Did you two never play together?
Speaker 4 (47:47):
We never played together.
Speaker 7 (47:48):
No, no cross across the theficial path.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
I saw you in a picture of his I don't know,
is it a school thing? And you were like, I
mean here, you guys are both at the same school
event or something.
Speaker 7 (47:59):
Throwing water.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Got him good, so he was trying to scheme it
up to get me back. So mad he had Decker
try to come tackle me. I mean, I hate Clay
Matthews in the chest and I thought he was going
to straight kill me.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
He was so mad at me. Did you see what?
Speaker 7 (48:18):
Yeah, you were right there.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Yeah he was so mad, But I just that was That's.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
One of my joys is to go to that outdoor
field day and I get these water balloons and anybody
that doesn't expect it to come.
Speaker 4 (48:30):
I mean I crushed newcomers too, so Cob came out there.
Speaker 7 (48:36):
It's been great. Yeah, it's been great. I love you know,
just the community. Uh, just like you said, just the
school that we at. We have a lot of families
with similar backgrounds and understanding of life. And it's been fun.
I've enjoyed and my kids are thriving here.
Speaker 4 (48:53):
They love it.
Speaker 7 (48:53):
They this is the first place that they've been for
a calendar year in school, so they've enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
That. Isn't that wild? Yes, Like when they finally get
somewhere and you're like, when do we meet it? Moving?
Where are we going next? You're like, no, there's is home.
This is it.
Speaker 7 (49:06):
This is where we are.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
You said you played tennis, not pick a ball. You're
a tennis player.
Speaker 7 (49:10):
I just got in. My wife got into it and
I like got into it with her, and I was like, oh,
that's kind of fun. We actually played in a mixed
doubles match and like, you know me, I'm thinking rolled
the ball out there. It doesn't matter what the sport is. Like,
we're getting ready to go, you know. No, we got
drilled we got drilled. I was like, okay, give me
(49:34):
five years.
Speaker 6 (49:34):
Okay, yeah, Randall, good to see you man, Thank you
so much. All right, thanks to Randall Copp for coming in.
That's Matt Castle, that's kick Off Kevin, that's Brandon Ray.
I'm Bobby Bones. Thank you so much for watching it.
If you don't mind, I guess the one asked. I
don't ask for much, but I'll make this one ask
if you enjoyed this episode. Maybe you're a Packer fan,
(49:56):
maybe you're a Randall Copp fan, maybe you're just an
NFL fan. You don't mind sharing this episode of your
story being like, hey, here's a podcast you guys should
check it out. NFL podcast That would help us a
time because we depend on you guys and we'd like
to keep doing it.
Speaker 5 (50:07):
So thank you. We will see you next week. We've
had lots to say. Goodbye, everybody.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
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