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April 1, 2024 37 mins

“Going to the Mat” star Andy Lawrence joins Will and Sabrina as he takes a trip down memory lane about the film, growing up in the spotlight and more! 

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
And thank you so much for joining us for our
park Hopper episode.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
We today are speaking to somebody who I've known for many,
many years. But I knew he was good. I mean,
I knew he was a good actor, obviously. At the
three brothers are all uber talented musicians, actors, writers, you
name it, they do it.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
They all grew up in the industry.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
But our guest today put in a performance in the
last movie that we talked about that was just so
stellar that I hope we don't spend the next you know,
forty minutes or so just telling him how amazing he is.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
I want to actually hear about the filming too.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
We're gonna have to pull ourselves back. I know both
loved it. I'm sticky with my score. I think you
should change yours. It is a ten, not a nine
point five.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I know, but he was so good. So please help
us welcome the man himself, Andy Lawrence. Are you thank
you so much for joining us.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
You have no idea how excited we are to talk
to you about this movie we just watched.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Of course, of course it's my pleasure. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I hope you're in and ready for a little bit
of a love fest. Because we have not gushed about
a movie in quite some time, and we this is
by far both of our favorite d com that we've watched.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Oh way it is, no, it is, this is where,
this is the this is the best one we've watched.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
But hands down, hands.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Down, so good. So I hope you're just ready. We've
already brought PEP talked both of ourselves to pull it
back with you.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, we're like, we can't spend an hour just telling
you we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Calm it down because we were not gonna We don't
want to just say that over and over again. But wow, Andy,
this movie was so good. You were so good in it.
It was amazing, Yeah, amazing you.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
This is awesome. Hey, I'll come on anything. Well, thanks,
bud me.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
It was a phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
So let's start from the beginning, then about how you know.
We'll go back to your beginning first and then go
back to the beginning of the project. So for anybody
who doesn't know out there, I think most people do.
But how did you get involved in the entertainment industry?

Speaker 5 (02:35):
How did I get involved in the entertainment industry?

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, I followed pretty much my brother's footsteps. Man, you know,
there was an opportunity at one point on a show
called Walter and Emily.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
I think, I mean I was like a background baby in.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
A couple episodes of Blossom, probably in some other movies
at some point. But the real like first gig was
Walter and Emily. Matt had had a younger cousin or
something in the show, and I had like one big
line where I walk out on stage and and and
grab a bowl of chips and I go fly, chips fly,
and I throw the chips up and they scatter. Yeah,

(03:08):
and then they just like they I thought I could
do it, and somehow my mom got me in front
of the producers for a quick audition and I did it,
and they let me do it on taping the night
of the taping and I did good, good enough, I guess.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
And then that was so that was like the first gig.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
And how old were you when you did that?

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Probably three three and a half and I yeah. And
then like my first real audition was for a show
called Tom with Tom Arnold, Chris Barley, Andy Diggers. It
was rad and that was like I was like four
and a half or five, and I remember that one.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
I like I had an audition.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
I went to Network and that was for like the
first like role I really won over.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Wow, were you on set with your brothers a lot?
Just being on like your mom's hip basically did she
take you on set a lot?

Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
So you just grew up just this was life? That
was it? Amazing? Wow?

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
But as we know in this industry, just being on
set or just being related to people that are talented
doesn't necessarily follow that you are. And you were so
so you ended up obviously making your own mark.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Now, acting is one thing.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Obviously you and your brothers all have that talent, but
you're also all musicians. Is there one that you prefer?
Is there one art form that you would pick over
the other?

Speaker 5 (04:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Well, music is instant gratification, you know what I mean,
the gratif it's so quick, right, it's just I don't know.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
So that's that's that's a plus.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
It's very gratifying to have that, to get that feeling
so quickly. But but no, I can't choose.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
They're both. They're both. They go hand in hand. You know.
It's a big part of of of.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Any sort of film or I mean, I think a
show or so on and so forth. So no, I
can't choose. They're both. They're both. They battle.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Well, I was telling Will that, you know, this was
the first time I've watched this movie, and so I
really didn't know what I was I was. You know,
I knew the basis of what I was probably gonna watch.
I knew you were a musician. I know that that
is something you and your whole family just really you know,
embrace and are great at. Then I start watching the

(05:15):
show and You've got this killer scene of just I
didn't know that I'd be getting the chance to see
you play the drums. I honestly, I'm not even sure
I knew you that was. I knew you played guitar,
but that was so awesome, and I was so stoked
because you know, as actors, a lot of times we
don't always get an opportunity to show our other talents

(05:37):
besides acting. And how excited were you when you found
out that that would this would be an opportunity to
showcase how great you are in another art form?

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Okay, so I was so excited.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
I was really excited to to be able to incorporate
music and I and I had big big plans as
they asked you to. Sure, But when I saw dailies
for that for that that drum sequence, and it was
like playback right, it wasn't live, and I was really
disappointed because I felt like it sounded so fake. So

(06:12):
the director, Stuart and Wayne Brady agreed with me. They
were like, no, he's right, like this is he's a
capable enough musician. And Wayne Brady was a capable enough
musician that they were like, from this point forward, any
of the other music scenes in the movie, we should
just record live. And and Disney was not too stoked
on that. They didn't like that that idea, but they

(06:36):
let us do it anyway. And so outside of that
first drum sequence, which was a pre recorded track that
then we later played to, all the other music in
the movie is played live.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
I'm pretty sure get out of here.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
And that I was super stoked about because you know,
it was just they let us kind of do our
own thing and that was fun.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Wow, that was actually going to be a question of mine.
That was like talk to will of jam sessions are
sis id Rady played the drums either?

Speaker 5 (07:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, were you guys just I mean they were just
just you guys were just vibing together, totally totally kidding me.
That is so right.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
It was fun.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Oh wow, cool.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Was so taken back to the beginning of the movie. Then,
how did you first hear about this project? I mean,
did you have to audition or was it just kind
of like, hey, come and do our movie.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
I I, you know, I definitely still I read for
it sort of, I think, I don't know if it
was you know, that was at the tail end of
of of when I was fortunate enough to do a
few handful of Disney movies, so they were real familiar
with me by that point.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
So and that was on a show, so that was
nice too.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
So it was like they was going hand in hand
where uh, I was on a little bit of a run.
So I think that maybe like I, I like went in,
I had a meeting with the director and maybe I
read with him once or twice, and then they were
they were on. I remember I read with all the
other cast members though, because I was like the first
one attached to the movie, and in the audition, I

(08:06):
would like mess around with people about playing blind reached
for drink and try to and I would like accidentally
hit them and and have fun with that, and I
just remember that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Wow, How did you how did you prep to I
mean again, I'm I'm thinking of myself when I was
your age, and it was just about being funny or
that kind of stuff. The idea of coming in and
playing somebody not only has to do a huge physical
role who then has to add music to the physical role,
but then also has to play somebody with a disability?
How did you prep to play somebody that was blind?

Speaker 4 (08:37):
There they were Disney was cool enough to hook me
up with a guy named Tom Sullivan I think his
name was, and he was like big back in the eighties.
He was an Olympium Olympic wrestler who was blind and
he had They made a movie about him, and the
movie was, like you know, for the eighties, it was good.
And the director of that movie actually did go into

(09:00):
the mat. So that's the full circle guy. I spent
some time with him, and he was he was he
was blind, and he was a real He was a
wrestler and he was an Olympian and he kind of
you know, just observing him for a couple of weeks,
going over to his house and going meeting for restaurants.
He had a canine, a dog of seeing eye dog
ever and uh yeah, just kind of observing him and

(09:21):
and you know, I don't know, you get.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
It, you get he just pick it up and get
But I mean it was kind of I.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Mean, you had great mannerisms, like I mean, there was
a lot of choices that you made to to really,
you know, dive into this who this person? You know,
who this character was? And is it just just from
your spending time with him or were you doing other
I mean, it just seems like it would have to
take so much time and effort to to play it

(09:53):
the way you did. You did such a great job.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Talking.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Oh no, I did you Did you shut it off
when you'd walk away from the set or did you
stay in character the whole time?

Speaker 5 (10:07):
You're whole method? Man, No, I didn't know I shut
it off.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
You know, it's just in like in the scene or
in rehearsals, in that space, you kind of can learn
to conduct yourself without scening, right, So like it was
like the real thing. It's like, let me just run
through the scene in the space, let me which we're
you know, I don't know, I don't know what your
experience was on the Disney sets or stuff. Sometimes you
get rehearsals, sometimes you don't. On going to the Mat,

(10:32):
we got a little bit of rehearsal, not a lot,
but we did get it cool and like dB Sweeney
was like a super pro, so he like demanded like
rehearsals and stuff. And that was fun because I don't
know if Disney was prepared for that, but.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
Hey, everyone, you know, everyone got along. Don't get me wrong.
Everyone was a constant.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Sure, But I mean we've we've talked about it before
the d coms. It's you know, typically around you know,
eight nine weeks you know, movie shoots, so they got
to keep the pace going. You know, there's no time
to kind of you know, take too much time and
hair and makeup or any of it.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
You know, you got to keep going.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Sure, I don't think we shot more than a couple
weeks on that movie.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
That's what I was gonna ask how it was. It
was probably no way.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Yeah, I can't imagine.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
I don't think we ever, I ever shot a dcon
that was more than like four weeks.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
I wish, well everything shot in Utah.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
That's uh no, Uh wait was it.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
Yeah, it was. We shot that, yeah, all of it.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yeah, even the New York stuff, I guess at the beginning.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yes, So well that's just yeah, you can make Central
Park kind of anywhere in Utah, it seems to be.
We've noticed in dcoms, if the movie doesn't take place
in Utah, it's certainly shot in Utah. So everything is
Utah based when it comes down to two.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
A Disney Channel original movie.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
You're obviously your physicality is obviously showed that you had
some athleticism in your background.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Did you ever actually wrestle before?

Speaker 5 (11:55):
No, but I was all.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
I did a lot of kickboxing and stuff when I
was younger, and thanks to my brother, my bros. We
I was always physical, you know. They they've always been
physical dudes. Uh.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
And so I hit the training, the wrestling training are
for this. They like. Disney was cool enough.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
That I had a back in the day, you know,
at the at the family compound, we had a little
half court basketball thing and Disney came over and put
an actual wrestling mat.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
They covered the basketball court.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Wow. And I had a coach that came over, you know,
three or four times a week with a couple of guys,
and they would teach me how to roll and toss
me around and stuff, so that I was ready for uh,
for all of that wrestling.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
I don't think I want to.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
I mean, I'm gonna go out there and say I
did not have any stunt doubles or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah, I mean you could tell.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
You could tell there.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
You could a bunch of different d coms that cover,
you know, different types of sports. There's some that are
really great about hiding those you know, those doubles, and
some that are some that are and so this didn't
look like there. I mean, either that or it was
so seamless.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
You know, there's like close ups of your face as
you're being thrown in the air slow motion.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yes, it's pretty hard to uh yeah that kind of stuff. Well,
I mean, what was it like?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
So I've never really done I did one kind of
hockey movie with some guy named Matt I know, but
he was a hockey player. I don't know if you
know him or not. He was the hockey player in that.
So I never had to do all the serious physicality.
What's it like shooting a sports movie where, especially something

(13:36):
as physical as wrestling, did you do all the wrestling.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Stuff in one chunk or were you kind of shooting
in order?

Speaker 4 (13:43):
We Yeah, well, there was like a big bad wrestling
week and I and I will say that, I remember.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Uh that week I had. I was sick. I was
like super ill.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, and I had a really bad fever and I
was going in and they were like putting me on
IV on the side lines, and they actually, at one
point the medic made them.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
And I'm embarrassed to say this, but made them shut down.
We shut down production for life. You're sick a day or.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Two so that I could just lay in bed and recouper.
And uh, yeah, I felt bad about that and pretty
pretty embarrassed. But but but.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Again, sometimes you have to and obviously too, if you're wrestling,
you're taking a big chance of possibly getting someone else sick,
you know, so probably the best, probably the best, of course,
because you're young, and you know what I mean. That
was such a mom you guys, that was such a

(14:38):
mom comment.

Speaker 7 (14:41):
You're right, that is that is the right, That is
the right, So to gush a little bit.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
One of the things we notice about a lot of
the dcoms we're watching is that, you know, a lot
of times they'll cast kind of the big, bigger child
actors in the lead roles and then.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Some of the other smaller roles.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
Maybe they don't.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Cast the best actors, whereas this movie everybody round great
and so, uh could you tell right away?

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I mean, you you're a veteran by the time you
did this.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Could you tell right away when you walked onto the
set that it was like, oh, we've we've got a
heck of a cast here.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
It felt yeah, it felt good, It felt like it
was gonna be it felt like it was gonna be.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
You know, watchable for sure. You know. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
I was always real critical when I was a kid.
I don't know why I was more critical then, Probably
that I am now, Uh, because like now I could
sit back and join and be like, huh, you know,
we pulled some things off, and I would have I
would have you know, dialed a little bit further more
of a set piece for the end.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
But but the movie's not bad and uh for what
it was.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
And but but then I was like, oh my god,
is this going to be even you know, is this
gonna be okay? Or is it going to be embarrassing?
And uh, but no, about you know, a week into it,
it felt like, yeah, this is gonna be.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
Wait.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
So that you thought there should have been a different ending?

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Probably, yeah, I just because I skimmed through it before,
because I texted you. I was like, should I want
it in its entirety? Probably you know in twenty years.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Sure, Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I look, I liked the ending.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I liked how they made it real where it wasn't
like a typical Disney thing where it's like I've got
to pin them to win, where it's just like don't
don't get pill.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
That was good. That was good.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Are you talking about you and Mary Beth? Like walk
to the center, Yeah, and you just kind of dance
and cut.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
And like quick credit roll and you're like, wait, what
with the end?

Speaker 3 (16:35):
I thought, okay that if there was I'm with you
on that. If there was one, l like tiny critique,
it just I mean, could we get a kiss?

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Could we get I agree something?

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Get a little bit?

Speaker 4 (16:46):
So I don't know, I was like, like somebody should
be like, no, this is a good moment.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
You know, everybody's happy here. And I would have made
it a little bit, you know, I don't. But but again,
for what they were up against everybody.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Sure, yeah, but I will say your guys' chemistry on
camera was so adorable and so great. I typically, you know, Sora,
I know, I Lossandra. How was it? How was it
filming with her? How was that on set? Great?

Speaker 4 (17:16):
She's a wonderful person. She's she's she's such a bright personality.
And I remember her mom and my mom.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Really they were getting along.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
They were like two pieces of pot having fun.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Oh good.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
He just rooted for your characters right from the start,
like you just wanted to see them together. It was
so much fun. What was it like working with Wayne?
You were talking, you were talking about how you guys
got to jam. What was it like working with him?

Speaker 5 (17:39):
Very cool? I mean he was really cool.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
And the fact that he was such a good musician
and he had he could sing and that was like
such a fun something I was unexpected. And the fact
that he was such he was so in my corner
about like the live music thing again, that was really big.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Didn't want cheezy like a cheesy music thing, you.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Know, totally because it it would portray differently than than
what it did. I mean, it was such a great
jam sash between you guys and I mean that was awesome.
I'm glad he he helped you on that, you know,
because some especially being a child actor on a set,
you don't always get people to listen to you and
to see how important certain things are and help you,

(18:18):
you know, really fight, help fight for you. And that's
amazing that he did.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
I love that totally.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Were his kids on set at all?

Speaker 5 (18:25):
No? No, I don't think it was.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
I think they were either very very young or he
just was married at that point to his his Okay.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Also Fly played by Cleo Thomas. You had such great chemistry.
Did you know him before filming it all?

Speaker 5 (18:41):
No?

Speaker 4 (18:42):
No, like like most of those things, Uh we no,
we just know it was walked on set and it's like,
you know, get some chemistry. Boys, that's pretty much it.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, your friends now friends.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
Friend figure it out.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Oh man, that's great. Do you see Do you see
anybody or talk to anybod from the film anymore?

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Not really, man, I've I've I have cross paths with
Alessandra a few times, and she's lovely. She's uh, I
think she just had it. She's a mom and she's
doing really well. She's married, which is fantastic to see
everybody kind of grow up and go on their own adventure.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
But that's pretty much it. I don't think i've seen
anybody else.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Jeez, I'm sorry. I want a reunion.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
I want going to the mat to what everybody's doing
right now. Frankly, because I had so much fun watching
this movie.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I watch twice in a row.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Sometimes that's a tough thing to do with the comms.
This was not tough to do with that at all.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
It was great.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, I have I found this in my closet.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
This is fitting.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
This is the track jacket that I actually wore the Huskies.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
It still fits, it still fits. I love that. Do
you do that or did you? Or was that something
like that? Your mom sort of helped you kind of
grab something from set to hold on to and always
have you know what my dad did. He'd always get
the script and help me and tell me to walk

(20:11):
around and get all of our crew to sign the
cover that. So I've got so many of those now,
and I love that. I wish I had held on
to more of my what I wore.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
You know, more of the wardrobe.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, I wish I did. There's you know, I just didn't,
all right, So.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
You're obviously that. I know you're gonna hate hearing this,
but it's true.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Your decom royalty fully it fully where.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Do you Yes, yes you did?

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Wait did you not get the crown? We said, yeah,
I mean, my.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
God, where do you rank going to the mat with
your other dcoms?

Speaker 4 (20:48):
It's good, man, it's pretty darn good.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
It's really good.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
I really liked Horse Sense or Sense has a special
place just because it was like the first one and
and Michael uh was it?

Speaker 5 (21:00):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
No?

Speaker 5 (21:00):
Greg Greg Beaman, I think the.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Director of that anyway, he was a great director.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
He killed it.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
So I like War Sense a lot too. But I
don't know. It's hard to They're like, you know, they're
like children.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Man, you can't.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
You can't pick one.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Although I hear some parents can pick one kid over
over other kids.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I hear that's true. Oh, Sabrina is like, I can
do that.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Oh man, all right.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
So Sabrina, I have to.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
I have to do this because I know you're such
a disney Land World fan.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Okay, can you Andy tell.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Sabrina a little bit what it was like, especially at
the height of all the stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
The Lawrence brothers were doing. What it was like to
go to a theme park.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
I mean, how many plaids did you have to have
surrounding the three of you to keep them? You know
what I mean? Did you guys each have two plaids
cover right and left and they just walked in like
a big There were.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
Some plaids for sure. Uh.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
I remember one time I was on the It was
I was going through the tunnels and I turned a
corner and I saw I saw Goofy with his mask off.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Man, I know not. Hey, there are rules, Andy, you
are not supposed to talk about that, Okay, that's why.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
When that's why when you moved through the tunnels, it's different.
You move through the tunnels all off.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
And the things you see are Oh.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
You know, it can be traumatizing, That's for sure.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
It can. It can't I I that happened to me
with Mickey, Really, Mickey, I mean, have some respect.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Do that? Oh did you hear anything after the film
came out? Because obviously so.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
One of the things that we do on our show
is we get a five review, a real five star
review from the Internet Machine, and a real one star
review from the Internet Machine. It was really difficult to
find a one star review of your movie, and the
one we ended up finding was from somebody who actually

(23:16):
lived in Utah who was like, I don't like the
way Utah was depicted as a hicc town.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
That was it. That's all we could find.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, and to be fair, Utah is nowhere in that world,
like that's just not how it is.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
So we got that. But did you the film obviously
came out was very well reviewed.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Did you hear anything from anybody in the visually impaired
community after Yes, for sure.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Yeah I did.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
I did, And I'm embarrassed to say I don't remember
too many of the specifics, but there were a few
instances where, uh, yeah, they there was I don't know
what I guess you could say, accolades.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
I don't know what you would go.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
I mean, I don't want to say, but some sort
of recognition for sure from from from the visually impaired community.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
And that was really cool.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, I can imagine it would be because it was.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
It was just such a good So one of the
things we talked about, again gushing, is we.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Loved how they took the characters.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
So yeah, and I want to talk to you a
little bit about the the performance itself, because they any
other dcom, any other really movie like this, not even
just dcom. You're the the visually impaired kid moves into
the school, he gets bullied when he's in the school.
He then has to learn how to you know, find himself.
This movie kind of made you the jerky to where

(24:39):
which is something that was really interesting is you kind
of came in with the chip on your shoulder and
so they they flipped it on its head where a
lot of the other there's the great scene with you
and Alexander where she's like, we don't care that you're blind,
You're you're a jerk, Like, you know, did you have
do you? Do you remember trying to walk that line
as an actor of you know, you're the lead to

(25:00):
the film. You know you have to be likable, but
at the same time you also kind of have to
be an ass a bit.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah, I think the teenage angst came easily to be
at that time in my life. But but but to
your point, Yeah, I remember they were, you know, trying
to to ride the line and pick the moments to
soften up, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, of course, how old were you by the way.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Oh yeah, fifteen, I think so fifteen, okay, sixteen fifteen.
I don't think I was like driving again.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Okay, so I think we have you know, don't want
to take up too much more of your time. But
you've talked about the wrestling, you talked about them bringing
a matt all that kind of stuff. What other physical
training did you have to do to get ready for
the film?

Speaker 4 (25:59):
I was, I was really I wanted to be very
in shape for that.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
So I was really working out a lot.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
And I was I was definitely, uh, probably dieting too
intensely for being fifteen or sixteen.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
I was really.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
And I'm and there was one scene where I was
they were weighing me in and I and I was
and and I think Disney would not let me have
my shirt off because they said I looked I looked
too ripped. They're like, we can't have you looking too ripped.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
What was that called standards and practices. We'll say no, no, no, no, no,
we do not do sexy here at the Disney Channel.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
You better kick yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Yeah. At that point, or for that age.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
If I had a dollar for every time somebody told
me I couldn't take my shirt off because I was
too ripped.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Dude, I know. Well that's the thing. I worked so hard.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I would have zero dollars it working so hard.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
And then yeah, I don't think I worked out again
for twenty years up until recently.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
I was gonna say, you and your brothers aren't in
good shape.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
All. Yeah, do you want to you want to feel
bad about yourself as a guy, go.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Sit next to the three man please please. Uh, let's talk.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Speaking of podcasts, let's talk a little bit about yours.
Can you uh tell us a little bit about the
brother of the love pod?

Speaker 5 (27:15):
It love pod? Who knew who knew? We are? We are?

Speaker 4 (27:19):
We really just started this thing, uh for fun and
and didn't realize they were gonna was gonna be such
a demand. And people really have been supportive and and
and and have expressed a lot of joy from it.
So we're gonna try to keep it going as long
as possible. It's doing very well.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Well, you were on it. It was fantastic, Sabrina. I'd
love for you to come on it too. I'm putting
on the show.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
Yeah, it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
We we we have a really great time, just you know.
Tabletop conversation with my brothers and and myself and and
hopefully a very cool guest.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, it's it was.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
It reminded me so much of sitting with my brothers
being there with you guys. I mean just because I'm
I'm the youngest of three boys as well, so you know,
we have that in common too, And it was just
like sitting around the table with my brothers.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
It was.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
It was pretty funny. And uh, and you're still working on.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
Music right working on music? Yep.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
I got with brothers and I have a song that
we wrote kind of a title song for the podcast
that we're gonna film a little video for and released.
And we have a couple other songs. Maybe you do
like a little EP or our record will come out
with the three of us, because we just didn't I like,
you know, if you're gonna do something, why not do
it with the people you love and the people so
why not? And then yeah, we got some we got
some movies that were working on that we're very excited about.

(28:29):
Lots of stuff, man, lots of stuff, keeping busy, that's
for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
That is nice, phenomenal nice. I mean, I don't know
what else to say. We could sit here for an
hour just gushing over this film.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
It was the best film we've seen. Sabrina gave it
the first ten what because we rate them all, it
really did.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
I really stuck around between the bigger ones. I think
the most we've given was then eight point five maybe
for to Send, But Descendants was the one to beat
for me, and that I love musical, so that's hard
for me to not, you know, veer into that because

(29:10):
of my love for dance and music and everything. But
this was just the I cried. I mean, I just
I just it was just so good and I wasn't
expecting it. Again, and I say this on that podcast,
so prepare yourself. I'm not big into wrestling. I never
knew anyone that did it before, you know, in high school,

(29:31):
that was not something that you know, never had a
boyfriend that did was in wrestling. So I really knew
nothing about it. Wasn't sure what it was going to
be about. Knew you were in it most likely then
going to be pretty good, but was nowhere near ready
for what I watched. It was just so good.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
I really appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, I couldn't believe you didn't there should have been awards.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
I agree it took it to the next level. No,
it really did.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
It took the d com to the next level, to
the point where you know, I I said, I will
probably never give a ten. This was tough not to
give a ten. I gave you a solid nine to five.
Sabrina's like, you've got to change it. It's gonna be
a ten. It's got to be a ten. I was like, no,
I got a hold off. I can't give anything a ten,
but this is gonna come closest. I don't see how
this can be beaten. I also am not a fan

(30:16):
of musicals. I don't like when entire casts break into
song like they've sat there and they've rehearsed, and all
of a sudden, everybody knows the same lyrics. But the
music in this was so good because it was natural
and real and I knew you were playing the instruments.
And again, I don't think you've said five words on
this podcast, because it's just us telling you how awesome
they are.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
From now.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
I appreciate, and it's in obviously it's not just it's
not just me too.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
You know how those things work.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
The Stuart Al, the director, and the producerbody. They really,
they really, they they top notch crew and they did
a great job.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
And everybody top to bottom was so good.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Even I was saying, even you know the guy who
gets injured and you took his place. He was great
and you didn't have a big part, but what was
written for him was really great. A lot of times
it comes down to just the scenes that they got,
and it was sometimes isn't you know a lot of
times not necessarily the actor. It's just the storyline doesn't

(31:13):
really make sense. They seem kind of useless. Everyone had
a great part, awesome, it was so good.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
It was just Great's I mean, that's the director of
the writing obviously, that's really sure.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Sure, Yes, yeah, Will you come back.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Again because you again, we have so many decoms with you, guys,
we have to go through.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
Any time to hang out with you. Guys.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Will anytime you man, I will with bells on you
let me know right.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Well, because I'm hoping we do one where we look
at you and go, wow, that movie sucked.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
That one.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
Doubt that's gonna happen, because if this is any indication
of what we can expect from you and your brothers,
you're there's a reason you're decom royalty.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
It was.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
It was amazing, It was amazing.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
What's the one you said you did first? What was
the name of that one? Because that seems pretty dear
to your heart? Okay, yeah, that's definitely on the list, No,
it is.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
And then there's the ship ship wreck.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
What is the.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Jumping ship the other Yeah, there's a number of these
that we're going to be going through because.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
They're jumping ship. That's a lot of activity.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
I don't know if you can find the other me anymore,
because it was a book, and and and and and
Disney lost the rights to the licensing of it, and
I and I think freaking it from there because they
don't want.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
It might be on YouTube if there if we can
find them on YouTube. So the rule we have for
the pod is that we don't want to do a
movie that people can't follow along with, because we'd love
to do like the Wonderful World of the Disney's from
the fifties and sixties and some of the early ones,
but we can't find them, so we've got to make
sure to Yeah, I know, it is such a sh we.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Even found we will and I did an interview and
even found this, I mean huge Disney fanatic who was like,
what was the tiger one?

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Uh uh uh Tiger Town, Tiger Town And we were
talking about we'd love to do that, but we can't
find it, and she goes.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Oh, like this one it has a chant. Yes, so
we tried to.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
By the way, your movie is on YouTube. It's been confirmed.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Our producers have told us it is on YouTube, so
we will certainly be doing that one of the event.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Uh it on Prime video too, you might.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Yeah, it was live still, OK.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
So good to see you.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
You can't wait to see it again.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Everybody go check out the Brotherly Love Pod and everything
else they do.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
It's just you just sit there and you get to
watch talent and it's pretty great. So thank you Andy
for joining us, and we'll see you again.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Man, can't wait.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
Thank you you too.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
He's amazing, And.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Again, that's going to be a podcast where everybody's going
to be writing in going. You didn't let him speak,
and it's like, why I just wanted to tell him
he was awesome for an hour, you know.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Because especially how many of the actors have we talked
to already that cringe at watching themselves. You don't know
if they're gonna they don't you know, they might be
told by you know, people that are on their team
or anything like that. But it's always great to say,
you know, it's from somebody unexpectingly, you know. And it was.

(34:22):
I mean, it was so worthy of all of that
to know how good of a job he really did.
I just I've never I've never seen him act that,
you know, that kind of role before.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Have you. No, he's you know, he's always the cute,
funny younger brother.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
You know, I'm funny and yeah, and again I'm just
thinking about you know, you're handed this script and you
look at it and you say, okay, so i have
to play somebody with a disability.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
I'm also a musician and I'm also an athlete.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
I mean, just there's so few actors, especially fifteen year
old actors, that could have pulled that off the way
he pulled it. I mean, maybe you could find somebody
who could play somebody who had the that was visually
impaired well, or you could find somebody that was great
as an athlete, or you could find a musician, or
maybe one of the combinations of the two, but all.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Three, there's one guy that could pull that off. And
it was I mean that was amazing all the way around.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
I mean, such a again, such a great you know
opportunity for him to showcase that too, you know, and
and to be able to really dive into I'm sure
a character even more because you do have all those
you know things. It shocked me that he never played

(35:36):
I mean, I guess kickboxing, can we really?

Speaker 7 (35:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:40):
No, ca, I mean again he had Well, I mean,
it depends on what you're learning in kickboxing, and you know,
it's got the it's got the martial art aspect of
you know, your against another opponent, So learning how to
move stuff like that would be something that at least
would be in his wheelhouse. But yeah, it's learning a
whole new discipline. And the fact that they set up
a mat and he had I mean one of one

(36:00):
of the guys who was helping him was an actual
blind wrestling olympian.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
That's amazing. I love that. Disney must have really taken,
like what we talked about on the on the podcast
episode of Where of Us rewatching, you know, taking that
very serious, you know, not not just swinging it and
just kind of we'll see where it goes, but they
wanted to pair him up with somebody who could really

(36:25):
make his time as portraying this actor very successful.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, amazing, it's just great. Well, thank you for joining
us for.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
This gush fest is what I'm gonna call it, the
the Going to the Matt Gushfest because Andy just killed
it in this movie. If you haven't seen it yet,
really go watch it because it has been our highest
rated dcom so far and rightfully so.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yes, thank you again for joining us, and join us
next time.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
You know, you can subscribe on Magical rewind Pod on
the Instagram machine.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
And thank you.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
For you know, sticking with us as we're making our
way through the Decme library one at a time. And
man did we have a special one in Going to
the Mat. So hopefully that'll set the stage for the
rest we'll see. Thanks everybody, Bye bye.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Thanks
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