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March 25, 2024 40 mins

“Pixel Perfect” star Leah Pipes joins Will and Sabrina as she reminisces on her time on set of the film and what it has meant throughout her career. 

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
So welcome to our park Opper episode where we have
the opportunity to speak to somebody. I'm very excited about this, yes,
because we just watched this movie. We liked this movie.
Producer Jensen had a very hot take on this movie,
and we get to speak to one of the stars
of the movie, arguably the star of the movie. You

(00:36):
could say, I mean, there's like three ways to look
at who could be the star of the movie, and
all of them are kind of right.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, that's interesting. That's a good point, a really good point.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
So yeah, it's all kind of it's interesting. But we
are speaking today to Leah Pipes. Hi, Hi, thank you
so much for joining us. We're so happy to have
you here.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm so happy to be here. This is so fun.
You guys, we used to do fun things when we
were kiddos, right, So.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I mean, that's what we love.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
This is one of my favorite parts about the podcast
is getting to talk to the actors. Every single person
we talked to, It's so much fun for them to
dive into the nostalgia themselves of what it was like
to make these amazing movies for the Disney Channel.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
It was really fun. It was like summer Camp.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, right, right, it's not the same way. So we're
talking about the dcoms, all of them essentially, but there
has been a huge nostalgia boom around the dcoms. Have
you felt any of this or people reaching out to
you about Pixel Perfect and is it kind of back
in your life again?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
You know it's first of all, it never left. It
never left.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
That's great.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
I mean, like so so it's like to put into context,
like Revieeve and I are still friends. We still have
like you know, like great mutual friends, and we're still
in the same friend group.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
So nice.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Almond and I like stayed tight.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
But I was at a fan convention for another show
I did, and people kept coming up to me asking
about Pixel Perfect, and I was.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
I was more excited about that in a way than
the fan convention the show.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
I was on right with the fan invention.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
That's I believe it because we as we were getting,
you know, ready to start it, and even as it's going,
we always kind of ask what what movies you guys
want us to rewatch and talk about, and this one
comes at us over and over and go over again.
Everyone remembers this movie loves It. It was at like

(02:40):
cutting edge of you know, electronics and the web, and
you know, it was just and it's got music. I mean,
it was just it was so fun.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
It it hits every single Disney category, yes, that you're
looking for. You know.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
The thing that I really loved about it though, looking back,
is it really touched on this Like it was kind
of a weird It was weirdly a feminist rant in
like perfectionism and the expectations we put on ourselves in
our bodies and wanting to express yourself and looking at
the perfect way to do that but not knowing how.

(03:15):
Like there was this the scene that I auditioned with
was she's describing like you've never.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Tried and failed.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
You've never tried to ride a bike and fell over
and scraped your your knee, and you've like you never
tried and failed, tried and failed until you finally.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Get it right. I think that's the line.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
And I was like, that's such a beautiful message to
give to all young viewers, but especially young girls, of
like you're allowed to fail, you don't have to be perfect,
you can be human, And that message I just think
is so beautiful to this day.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, I agree. It also made no sense, though I
was gonna say it made no sense though that the
first time we see, really see your character, you're on
stage rocking. You look amazing up there. The whole band
is kicking button and then the manager guy's like, you
can't front a band, want.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
To fire him so fast he was out of his mind.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I just saw Chris, Chris Williams.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
I just saw him at a table read of a
mutual friend of ours. And you know, I still think
he got it wrong. I should have sawd it to
his face.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yes, yeah, because there was First of all, the band
he ends up comparing you to isn't a band. They're
a girl group with mikes and dancing. Okay, that makes sense,
it would It made honestly, one of the things.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
I will say about the movie.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
It makes no sense with this lead singer to be
dancing to the kind of music you guys were rocking out.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Your songs were awesome. She didn't need to dance.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
There was no need for anyone to dance. You guys
were cool and amazing on your own.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
We were heart and he wanted us to be spice girls.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
That right, Yes, exactly, exactly so if we could take
it back to the beginning, if you were, like Sabrina,
you're raised in California, right, So did you grow up
around the industry. I mean, is this something that you
knew you always wanted to do.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
No, I'm the only person in this industry. Everyone else
is in business finance. I went to you know, school
to like go to a school fancy college, to like
go into an industry that isn't this one. And then
my mom like took us to an audition when we
were young because she's like, we're in LA so you

(05:35):
might as well know what it's like to you know.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Be exact cliche real quick, right.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
But she was like, but there's no way anyone's going
to like pick you know, this is like a cast
an open casting call.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
It's not going to happen. And of course, like this.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
Guy, you know, just I just I didn't mean to,
but I think I was sent to this earth to
make my mom's life a little bit more inconvenient.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Nice. Nice, No, of course I get chosen.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
And then I'm just continuing to just work and work,
and she's and I love it.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
It's like something that I want to.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Do and continue to love and as a result, I'm
still an actor and it's kind of the only thing
I want to do is just make movies.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Right yeah, Wow, with your audition, I love that's such
a great I got to add that to my list
of questions because it's always interesting to know what scene
you actually auditioned with and if that hit the cutting
room floor or if it action was used in the movie.
But was there anything else about your audition you can
tell us about. Did you see any of the actors
that you actually ended up working with, or was it

(06:40):
just you and the casting director or did you get
a chance to meet any of the actors before the
actual filming?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
We all three know what that audition was like.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
You're on the top floor of the Disney Room building,
right yeah, we all remember it, four twenty one, and
you're just slowly getting whittled down.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's like sometimes they ask you to leave and you
know you didn't book it.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yes, it's like the will that you're touring Willie Wanka's
chocolate factory and you're being picked off one at a time.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
I bet I was looking around and there are other
athletes there, but I'm looking around like, wait, hang on,
there's no one else here for my role. I think
I might have just booked this, like, you know, just
by deduction. Yeah, so that was the audition. I mean
you yeah, we've all been there. That's that's how they
do it. They just and we've all been kicked off too.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
It's oh yeah, oh of course, oh yeah you can go.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, yeah, that was great, thank you, thank you for
your time.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Charlie b the next that's exactly how that happened.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
True.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
I always think about how I used to.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Well, you know, when you're there and there's a bunch
of people, but then if someone I knew who I've
either auditioned against before or our friend or whatever, you
go back up to the call sheet where you sign
in and you kind of check out.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
What character they Yeah, you're like this girl.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
You look like you're wondering who, how much longer you
have to be there and who how when you're going,
But you're actually like sizing up the competition.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yeah, you're like, please be auditioning for the side character,
please please, or I'm auditioning for.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
The side character. I don't want to sign character. I
just wanted to say on floor twenty one until the.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
End, were now were you a musician as well.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
No, not really, Wait no, I mean I really faked
I really faked that. And then there was a moment
where I was like, I think I'm going to be
a musician, and I don't have the patience for it.
Like the amount of guitars I smashed and like electric
pianos I flipped over, Like I just it's the same

(08:48):
thing with sports like there there there's like a graveyard
of tennis rackets in our garage here. So I just
don't have the patience to be a musician or an athlete.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
You want to be good right away.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
I need to be like immediately amazing too. You think
you thank you.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
I'm exactly the same way. I've been playing bass for
two days? What the hell? Yeah? No, exactly?

Speaker 3 (09:11):
How am I not? How am I not? What is it?
John Henry Bonham?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
What's this from John Bottom? Yeah? It's true. It's like
I've been playing the drums for six hours and I
can't get this down.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
That's true. What was it?

Speaker 5 (09:28):
John Paul Jones? Who's the guy who's who's the bassis
from one Zeppelin?

Speaker 3 (09:31):
How do I not remember this?

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Oh jeez? Is that John Paul Jones.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
Is the bassist maybe I don't know who cares anyway,
Why am I not.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Right?

Speaker 4 (09:48):
How long was the shoot that you guys filmed? About
eight weeks?

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Seems like the normal d coom shoot schedule.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
It was eight weeks and okay, so here's another fun story.
So I'm I'm thirteen. I think I'm thirteen, and I
show up to Salt Lake City.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
I was just gonna ask they're all shot in it's
dcom c COM Central.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
Yes, yep, okay, so and I and we're at the
Little America, right the hotel we were all at, and
I forgot myself and my mom's like, you have to
remember your cell phone. And I was like, okay, and
I forgot my cell phone and this is like the
first time I ever had a cell phone. But she's like,
I'm gonna leave you with, you know, a one of

(10:34):
her our, like a close friend who's a babysitter, who's like,
I'm gonna like babysit you on set. And then my
grandma came and my dad came. It was like a
switch off, but she's like, you have to keep your
cell phone. Forgot my cell phone, so we switch cell
phones and to this day, I have my mom's cell
phone number because of that moment.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
And also they didn't give us a connecting rooms because
I needed a connecting room.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
It's like whoever was there with me?

Speaker 5 (11:02):
So they switched the room and I got like this
crazy sweet at the Little America. Oh that so supremely perfect.
And I was like, I'm a frickin' movie star.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yes this is it.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Yes, this is where we filming my Cribs episode.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, I got my mom's fancy new cell phone. I'm
in this sweet like hello.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
And then the first thing I did, because they gave
you per diem, the first thing I did is I
went to the grocery store and my dad's like, you
can get whatever you Because my dad was there at
the time, He's like, you can get whatever you want.
I was like, Okay, I want Life cereal and Whole milk,
not two percent.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
I want whole milk.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
That is absolutely and I want Nest quick crea made.
Oh that's so funny. Now, Okay, as you're there, the
shooting schedules can get a little bit crazy. You're kind
of under time crunch, you're doing all that stuff. You're
all at school as well, right, You're doing school on
the set.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
No, this was summer, so we didn't have.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Brilliant, so there was no school you had to do.
So you're just shooting all day.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
What they do?

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Make you do something? Don't they? Like they're still at
least teacher.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
But I think there was a set teacher, but this
this one, No, it was because I had done a
show before this and there was a set teacher and
we had to do like you know, there was school,
but this.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
There was no school. It was full.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Summer camp because there was no we were on summer vacation.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Oh that is okay. So you get to shoot your
movie in Utah, staying in the suite, no school.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Whole milk life, mom's cell phone.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
So what kind of things offset did you guys end
up doing?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Then?

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Did you guys hang out as a cast or yeah, we.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
We just I that was one of those like we
I think we're bonded for life in a certain way.
All of us we went to we would just like
you did the things that you want to do with
your friends, where you just went to the movies, we
would go to restaurants, see and we and just hung out,
you know, like we took over the whole town, Watch Out,

(13:21):
Salt Lake City.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
What's your favorite memory from the set? If you have
to think of one memory from the set, what's your
favorite memory?

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Oh, man, I I'm trying to think. There's t because
Tanya who played the drummer. She she was she had
so many Oh, she had so many isms. There were
like so many Tanya isms and now I'm blanking on them.
She just would say the funniest things she had at

(13:50):
the time. She might kill me for this, but at
the time she had this boyfriend named Michael, and she
would talk about Michael like Michael is the cutest, like
I love She had like so many isms about Michael,
and there were like an inside joke.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Were you all close in age by this point?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I was? I think I was the youngest, like Revieve was.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
Revieve was It still is three years older than me,
even though now somehow he looks ten years younger than me.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I don't know how that happened. That's a weird thing.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
It's whole milk. That's whole milk.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
That whole milk.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
I've just been doing that whole milk.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Fine, Oh you guys should have done almonds.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yes, that was the thing back then.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Yeah, I think he was, and then the other girls
were like around that age. I think I was the
youngest one, which made the whole thing feel.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
So much cool.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
You know, when you're in junior high, no one thinks
you're you always have to like grapple to be cool, right,
But to have kids like three years older than you
be like, hey, you're actually cool.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
You're like I actually am, no offense.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
This is the greatest thing in the world.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
I'm the coolest.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Oh man, Well, speaking of boyfriend's situations, we want to
talk about that on screen kiss.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Was that your first on screen kiss that you had done?

Speaker 5 (15:31):
I don't it was my first on screen kiss. I
don't know if it was my first kiss.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
But oh, I hope it wasn't your first kiss. That
would just.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
No, no, no, no, it wasn't my but on spring okay,
yeah it was it word.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
It was so I mean, it was like because you're
like kissing your friend.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
In front of a whole bunch of people, in front
of everyone, in front of a whole bunch of adults,
when you're a team, like.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
I know, and he's adorable, right, like of course he is.
But also he's just like my buddy, and you're just like, okay,
we're gonna kiss now, and.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
And then they're like okay, move in.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
And then they do a close up and you're like okay,
and now like move closer, and you're like.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
No, so funny.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Now there were One of the things we noticed, especially
for a d COM, is there were a ton of
special effects in this movie. You know, the pixel pixelating
cat and all the kind of stuff going on. How
much of that took like the time on the set.
Were you sitting there and waiting for effects all the
entire time? Or were they kind of zooming along?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
I mean, it was a d C.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
It was it was it was they moved along right right,
a d COM. That's what you call it, because a
d C is a different that's a different film. They
take their time.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yes, a DC aquabant, well, that might take a little
longer than Pixel Perfect exactly.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Y d COM really really moves it along.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
They're like, you got a green screen for five minutes
and then we're going to the next scene.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, man, So Spencer Redford was the hologram? Yes? Now
did now? Did she have to? Because it it's one
of those things where they made it very obvious that
you can't really touch her. You can't bump into her,
you know, all the blocking has to be very specific

(17:27):
because and that was one of the things we talked
about in the movie. You can't touch her, but she
can double backflip off the drum set.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Right right right, well, well zero, but that's she can
double back because that's because it's still an.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Right, it's computer generated.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
Right, but she doesn't have it's an it's all an illusion.
You can create the illusion, but the illusion is broken
if you try to touch her.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
That So, were there ever times just as an actor,
because as an actor you're just like, hey, and you
want to just put your hand on somebody's shoulder or
you want to, you know, walk into them. I mean,
were there times in the set were like, don't don't
touch the you.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Know, it's so funny.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Spencer was such a she's such a type a personality
that you don't You're like, she does like her personal
space in general, so she's fastn't go there, you go.
We love those, we love those we touch it and
love their personal space.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
That well, like the hologram, she has also disappeared. You
you try to find Spencer somewhere. It's she you can't
find her anywhere.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Have you kept in touch?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Where have you kept in touch with her?

Speaker 3 (18:35):
I actually haven't, So that's so.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
I mean she's the one where like Portia Tanya Revieve.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
I yeah, I could.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
I could direct you towards them, but I don't know
where Spencer went.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
She's not doesn't seem to be on social media, but
there can be, you know, a Facebook that is private
or something.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
So we were wondering that I'd like.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
To roll this out or she was actually a hologram
and you're just holding the secret, wait for a year
a secret.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Now's the time to listen.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
This is.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I'd have to kill you.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
You can tell us, Leah.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
You no, no, no, I can't tell anyone what I
know or do not know.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Or do you can either confirm nor do I All right,
so we're just gonna You're going to get to the
bottom of that she was actually a hologram. We have
to talk about the final scene because it's pretty wild.
The final scene where you try to cartwheel and end
up in a coma.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
And question is do you ever as a party trick
show off your cartwheel and that you can actually cartwheel?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Without getting into an a coma.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
Okay, the funny thing about that moment is I actually
did almost get into a coma falling.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Off the stage. I almost hit the camera.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Pull back so quick. They were like, oh god, oh
no party trick.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
No, no, no, I can't cartwheel a little bit here
and there.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Do you mind setting your phone up and just proving it? No,
I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I'm kidding, kidding.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
We'll do it. Wait, I'll do it, but I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
We can pull the camera back exactly. Don't do it.
We don't have the insurance to have you cartwheel. No,
it's amazing, we can't. We can't do it.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
I mean, you know, falling off of that stage like that,
how scary that must have been as far as you know,
forget the cart.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Wheel, just power.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
It was the crew that was.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Like, that's one thing about hiring a kid actor. Yeah, well,
times it comes with no fear. You're just, of course,
you're just wanting to get the job, get the gig,
no fear. Sure you want me to fall backwards off
of this thing? Hopefully there's a mat there.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
Okay, Still kind of how I do things on set
and so, but I think that now, like Cruz, they
understand that personality sooner rather than later.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Magically haven't been injured yet.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Touchwood knocking knocking right say that so. Our producer sometimes
pops on in the middle of our breakdowns of the
films with a hot take of his own, and the
hot take he had for this movie was pretty impressive.
He talked about how oh here he is.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
Sorry I didn't I didn't know I was going to
be talking directly to such royalty. Here's Here's the thing
about this movie is that I think that it's like
the most submersive Disney film ever made.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
I think that's a really flattering thing to say.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
But I actually, like, I know, it sounds like I'm
being like joky, like podcast joking, but I actually believe
it because it is an incredible satire on Silicon Valley,
like on the whole idea that these bros are in
charge of technology and we've we've pretended that what they're
doing is making society better. Oh, he's creating a hologram.

(22:07):
He could, but in truth, he just made his perfect woman.
It's not it's not actually helping the world, it's helping
himself and and the one of the writers at least
whohim I don't know if you met, was like this
major ya dystopian writer who is only his only movie right,
like he never made any other. It's so obvious to
me that he knew. This is where the Elon Musks
were going. The Mark Zuckerberg's like, with technology comes so

(22:28):
much responsibility and these dudes are just bros that want
to hot shit like, these are just guys who like
want the hottest girl around and she needs to be
perfect right like she needs she even if even if
his regular girlfriend is just a little off tune, it
kills him and it's it's to me. It was like
every time it happened, I almost laughed, like, oh, they're
not going to be that obvious with it, And then
they would do it every time. And I think if

(22:50):
you wanted to take another look at it and be like, oh,
this is what technology bros are like, I think you'd
be shocked.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
I think I need to I think I want to
watch it with that in my With that said, this
morning I discovered Elon Musk came out with a house song.
If you want to listen, anyone who's interested, it's it's
called don't doubt your vibe.

Speaker 6 (23:15):
I'm gonna take a job. I'm doubting the vibe.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
I'm doubting.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Now.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
I am not buying this.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
It's on repeat. Don't doubt your vibe because it's true.
Don't doubt your vibe because it's.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
You right right. And I'm telling you. He thinks he's
helping everyone and he's not. And that's what this main
character of pixel perfect is.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
You need to listen to this song.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
I was listening to it all morning, prying, praying, laughing.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Look, sometimes we just have to stick in our lanes,
right like.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
We have to trust our vibe.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
We need to expand the vibe to wide, keep your
vibe narrow in what you're awesome at.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well, here's the vibe.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
I think vibes are imperfect. That's also the point of
pixel perfect. It's like the imperfection the you, the unique
aspects of us as individuals being something that doesn't need
to be synthetic or it fitting in perfectly into some

(24:25):
made up algorithm that's beauty.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Or or or talent.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
It's like we, oh my god, don't, oh my god,
don't trust your vibe.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Don't you don't. Wait, you just proved it.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
You guys.

Speaker 6 (24:44):
It worked. I told you he's gonna make a hologram
cat and everyone's gonna be okay with it. This is
the end of the world.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
No, we don't doubt your vibe.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
Is kind of what pixel Perfect is about, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
You did it, told you.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
I just need to write it down. It's called don't
doubt your vibe.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
Don't you think that there's more than one Elon Musk song?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, you have to write it down. Just google Elon
Musk song.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Don't tell you there is one. There's all I'm scouring.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Album out by the time we get done with this interview,
you guys, the guy is clearly just.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
This is my my drop out point. I heard you say, no,
you're laying goodbye, thank you.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
I feel like Elon Musk should come out with a
soundtrack four pixel Perfect, like a late soundtrack, like watch
the movie and be like confused, I'm so confused.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Well he did, he he just did. Don't trust your vibe.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
No, no, no, don't doubt.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Don't doubt your vibe. Se now, trust me, don't doubt
your vibe. Don't doubt vie.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Oh my gosh, it's here. Get it now?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Well, I love it so much.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
It's on YouTube right now.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Waiting, Well, when is the last time you actually watched
the movie?

Speaker 5 (26:17):
Oh yeah, So I don't love watching my stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Really normal we do not either.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
As far as watching your own, it's hard to especially
now right looking back at when you were.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Little, and and and your your level of maybe experience.
It's tough to watch yourself.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
No one likes to really watch themselves as a teenager.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
It's hard as a But here's the thing is, I
did watch a movie. I did watch another movie I
did with a friend when I was around that age,
and I could take it. It's just like the recent stuff.
It's just like, you know, a thing that I just
wrapped yesterday.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I'm not gonna watch that. I don't want to know
just released.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
You're just trusting the editors and going with it.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
But I will tell you because I was like that
with the dcom I did that was now twenty years old.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I was so ready to cringe. But the way you're
explaining what the.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Filming process was, I was just sitting on the couch,
big great smile, remembering.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Us being that little filming, remembering the things.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
That what's happening, you know, as we were out to dinner,
and you know, like it brought back so many different memories,
not necessarily watching the movie movie, but the actual behind
the scenes. I think you'd really enjoy it. It's worth
giving it a try. I feel like it's a great movie.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's sood You guys were bigger.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
You guys were big, big stars at d com Like
I feel like I'm I'm talking.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
To like the real high higher ups I am.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Come on, I gotta tell you, no, you like it,
you'll like see I. Unlike Sabrina, I only watch myself
so that if there's no I've never seen another show
that I'm not in or a movie I'm not in,
I only watch me. Yeah, we're lucky.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Why he watches these other d coms for us.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
I know that we can get his input because you know,
if there's really a where he's really taking his own
rules there.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
I appreciate that you've like opened your mind up to
other people.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, and the way you know what it is if
you watch it like it's almost like it's a home movie. Yes,
because it doesn't you remember the you remember the days
you were shooting and the stuff going on. If you
look at it that way, it's fun.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Oh, it's so fun. You really gotta tribe now. Okay,
thank you for your kind words, but we gotta. I'm
a huge slasher movie fan. You had one of the
best in Night two thousand and nine, two thousand and
nine Sorority Row. In addition, you had one with Jamie
Chung rumor Willis I mean, but also Carrie Fisher I mean,

(29:09):
was doing a horror film one of those things that
was super cool for you?

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Or were you?

Speaker 4 (29:14):
How did you feel about booking? Like for me, it
would be epic. I would love it. I would love
being a part of it.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
I'm so glad.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
The writer and I Josh Stolberg and I are still
making stuff together.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
He's one of my closest friends.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
All the girls are some of my closest friends because
I didn't go to college, so this was like my college.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Okay, but either by the way, yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
So you know what, But here's the other fun thing.
So right before I did Pixel Perfect, you know who
I worked with, Michael Jacobs. Really I think that that
might sound familiar to you, but.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yes, I'm familiar with mister Jacobs, what did you do
with Mike?

Speaker 5 (29:51):
We did a show called Lost at Home, Okay, and
it was right after Boyman's World. I'm not right after,
but like a few years after, and it was like
his experience of making Boy Meets World. And I freaking
love the guy to this day, Like he makes is
he he's a part of Girl Meets World.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Right, he did Girl Meets World as well, yet Michael
did and then he just did a film not too
long ago. Yeah, Michael's Michael was an interesting guy to
work with. You were you were he was could be
brash and very loud. He could he could be yelly,
he could be very opinionated, but he nobody could say
the man did not know what he was doing, especially

(30:30):
when it came to family sitcom. I mean he was
the best. He was.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
He was the best at it I had.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
I can attribute my entire career to him because my
mom I booked this show, right, I'm a series regular
on his show. And my mom's like, no, absolutely not,
because we have this plan and this is what we're
going to do, and this is going. I see this
where this is going. And Michael took my mom aside
and He's like, look, I these are where. These are

(30:55):
the schools the kids that just did my show. These
are all the school the colleges they're going to. They
went to Brown, they went to I mean, you guys
don't right, And my mom's like okay, sold and then
cut to I drop out of high school, Like.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Thanks mom, See that was the same. Yeah, that was
the same for me.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Michael convinced her to let me keep doing it, so
I'm here.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Started a lot of careers. Michael started an awful lot
of careers. Wow, absolute, were you.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
A fan of Boy Meets World?

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Like did you huge? Oh my god? Huge? Right, yes, huge, huge, huge.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Well, we're not going to really find anyone who wasn't.
That show was just.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
It's just so strange because we we weren't popular or
we're not that popular when we were on the air.
So to hear all these people that were big Boy
meets World fans is really I.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
Was like, t G I f was I like, that
was the that was the show. It's so weird that
you guys weren't popular when you are in the air,
because again.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
This is I just said it in the last movie.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Those shows weren't given the accolades that they deserved when
it comes into the industry.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Like you know, awards and all.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
They weren't pumped up and put out as much as
I feel they should have been. And it's weird to
me that maybe you just didn't feel it will because now.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
It wasn't that we didn't feel it. It was it
was I mean, we didn't have nobody from TV Guide
came to the set to even take a picture of
us until the seventh season.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Well, it's so weird because yeah, because peoplen't talk like
Dawson's Creek or nine O two one zero or like
when Sabrina or Sabrina. But for me, like I mean,
it's just like no, it was means whirl but that's.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
The same show.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Well that's very sweet, I mean it though.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
I'm not like you can tell, I'm not a liar,
like I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
That was that fine to me.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
That's messaging for kids, for teens, for young adults, better messaging,
better storylines.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
That made more.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
No, that was Michael again, Michael can tell a story,
especially when it comes to families and younger people. He
was great at never talking down to kids. He It
wasn't like I'm gonna sit here and explain to you
what I have going on. He wrote great scripts, he
really did. He put together an amazing writing staff, and.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Mister Feene was on our show and it was just like.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Your show that I saw last one of just Doing
No Good ninety seven years old, he's doing about to
be his birthday. Speaking of birthdays, because we do a
lot of research on this show, I'm August eleventh. Wow, okay,
so you're the twelfth so, which means we're in that
awesome week category of this week to be born?

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Yes, yes, yes, like as true Leo's would say.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yes, he's to be born.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Well, wait, what is the dates of a Leo? Because
my daughter's the thirty first of August.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
I think she's a virgo.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Oh no, yeah, we don't.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
We don't talk to them.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
I am a virgo.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
You, oh you're a virgo?

Speaker 1 (34:13):
No?

Speaker 3 (34:13):
We love virgos.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
What they're the best?

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah? Best?

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Virgo's my writing.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
So looking back now, twenty years after its release and
with so much work under your belt, you've essentially been
working ever since. Where do you rank Pixel Perfect in
your career?

Speaker 5 (34:32):
Oh? Man, I'm trying to top it. It's number one,
and I'm trying.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
To top.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
It's still special to you.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
It's so are you kidding?

Speaker 5 (34:43):
That was like, i mean those early days before you
really knew what was going on, you know, like you
just got to go and play and have fun and
there was no politics and there was nothing else to
think about but just the play of it. Yeah, that's
the reason I'm still doing this, this piece of job.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Well, I'm still stuck in this industry sipping a bourbon
at one o'clock in the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Life.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
This is why I'm still doing it.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
It's another reason to like call our parents and thank
them that they allowed us to be young and working
and you know in the industry, so where we got
to be able to know what truly the essence of
you know, you never you'll never spend a day working
if you love what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
And we got to do.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
That because we were kids and there our rent wasn't
on the line, you know.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Where we had thick skin.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
If we didn't book the job whatever, we were going
to get the next one, you know, type of mindset.
You know, all of that stuff was because our parents
allowed us to do that.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Not very many people.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Get a chance to know what that's like, you know,
and sometimes never even as an adult, they end up
in an industry they don't love. We know what it's
like to literally just go and have fun doing something
that we.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Really love to do.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Com you got to play in Utah?

Speaker 2 (36:08):
I know. I never got to film in Utah, and
I'm kind of pissy.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Where were you? Where did you guys film?

Speaker 2 (36:13):
I filmed in Toronto for the first one.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Pretty cool, yeah, because.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
It was it's it looked like New York and that's
where our movie was supposed to be based out of.
And then I did well, I didn't get to go
to Utah, but I got to go to Barcelona and India.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Those are the poor you Sorry Disney sent me that.
I mean, yeah, you know, maybe next time.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
Never got the little Sweet out a little the Little America.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
No, I was gonna say, yeah, you got you have
plenty of two percent milk yourself.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Next time to Utah, I'm gonna make that's where the
reservation will be at the.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Please please do try to find the sweet.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
I'm gonna know what it is like.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Thank you so much for joining us to talk fun.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
You guys.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Want to hang out with you any time.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
Drink.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, now what are you doing now?

Speaker 5 (37:07):
I just did a couple of movies that should be
out pretty soon. You know. There's like, uh, one's a
psychological thriller, ones an action movie. So we'll see.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
I'm in l a. Come hang out with me, let's.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Go, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Absolutely okay, hit me up.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
So well, thank you so much for joining us. And
uh yeah, if you haven't seen it in a while,
go back and do yourself favorite watch because you're great
and the movie is really good.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Are you are you are?

Speaker 3 (37:37):
You know what? My mom has the soundtrack.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
She has some hard copies of the soundtrack, I think
in her office here. Wow, So I'm gonna maybe maybe
what I should do is like sign some and send
them to you and you can give.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Oh yes, I love that, okay, perfect.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Well, any of our viewers, some of our producers, will
I scoop it up.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
They are all about that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
We'll get it from all right, I'll find it. I'll
find and I'll send it to you guys.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Oh, thank you so much, thank you for joining me
so much.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Leah, amazing bye bye.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Oh man. That was so much fun.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Why aren't these interviews so fun.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
The reason why I think these are so fun is because,
for the most part, when you're a kid, it's just
what you said. When you're a kid shooting these things,
you're just having fun, right, and you're enjoying yourself. It's
a job, certainly, but it's a job that you love
so much that you're having so much fun doing. It's
not yet become like, oh, I've got to go to
work today. It's like I get to go to work today. Yeah,
so it is.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
You hate your days off. You hate your days off
because you're missing out. I bet you.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
I mean, for me, when I was filming on our
days off, a lot of times I ended up on
set anyway, just because I wanted to see everyone who
was fun and they wanted to watch what was happening on,
you know, as the filming went on and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
It's it's it's such a great time.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
And maybe that's the difference too, is he was playing
you know, I'm Wonderful'll see a difference of our interviews
with the ones that are the adult actors that.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Were adults because they're they've been actors for years, they're professionals,
are adults in the set and it's probably another job.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Totally one, and you're just different. It's just a different experience,
you know.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Well, she was so much fun. It was amazing and
I am going to hold her to getting that signed
Pixel Perfect DVD.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
But we have got to see Who's gonna's gonna bagg it?
Of our of our amazing producing crew has like just
so much love for these movies just as much as
we do.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Well, thank you so much for joining us for this interview,
join us for the next one. Uh and don't forget
to uh subscribe. You can come and watch us and
everything we do over at Magical rewind Pod on the
Instagram machine. Thank you so much. I think it's time.
I'm gonna go get some life cereal with Whole Milk.
I don't know about you, same bye, everybody.
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