March 4, 2024 • 40 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
And thank you so much for joining us this time
on our Park Copper episode. We're both very excited about
this interview, not only because she has been around for
a long time and been acting for over thirty years,
done some of the coolest movies, television shows, music, you
name it, she's involved in it. But she was also
an integral part in the movie we just covered, Tower
of Terror.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
We are very excited today to welcome Nia. People's hi there, Hey,
there you are, Hey, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm great?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
How are you guys?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We're good, well, I'm good. I won't speak for Sabrina. Sabrina,
are you good?
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Great? So glad to have you here with us.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Looks like fun.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's not gonna be. This is terrible torture.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
It's about torture.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We go right into the heart of the badness. No,
of course, we're very excited to have you here. We
had just watched and did our own little review of
Tower of Terror.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
What a fun show.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Well, you have had such an incredible career in movies, music, TV.
But I need to know do people bring up Tower
of Terer?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Do you? Yes?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Yes, I love it? Oh good? That makes me feel.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Say yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there are a few things
in my career that I've done that kind of hit
that a specific place for someone, and Tower of Terror
was like, oh my god, they play it every Halloween
and it's funny.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, So it's a it's a.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
It just offers up something fun for the whole family
to do. You know.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Fame was kind of.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Like that for me. Walker Texas Ranger was the north Shore.
There are just these certain things that are will never
go away.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
We're going to get into north Shore. I can't even
with north Shore because.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
We're going to get into north So do you remember
your audition for Tower I do good?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Please tell us something about that.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It was just fun I mean that, you know, in
my career, I didn't have a lot of opportunities to
kind of be funny. And there's just this natural preset
to the way that I am that is kind of
like that Sandra Bullock kind of humor. And so when
this came up, it was just so natural for me
(02:25):
that I rolled in and it was like, oh my god,
this is this is her, this is thank you. And
to work with Steve Gutenberg, who I worked with again later,
it was just it was great.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
What was that like? That's what I was going to
ask about was Steve Steve, did you get to audition.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
At all with him or with that?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I don't. I don't think that I did. For that one,
he was he was probably already placed in it and
then they read a few of us. But I don't
think I had to read with him for that one.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
What was it like working with him?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Well, Steve is funny and he's fun and I the.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
He's definitely he definitely has that light, kind of goofy
kind of humor.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
So that was fun.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Now.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I do have a funny story in that he said
to me, you know, when you have like an hour
break for lunch, just come on buy at lunch and
we can. I don't don't even remember why he said
to come. I don't know if it was to look
at some other movie that he was like, I don't
I don't remember. I just remember walking up and the
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door was opened but the screen was closed, and he
had nothing on and was walking by, and I was
just like, I love Steve, but that's more than I
need to know.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
And then you have to go back on the set
with them and just go.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Hold it together.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I have seen.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Them a trick like was he bringing you over just
to joke with you and do that to you.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It's something you have to ask him.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Oh man, I guess Tower terror a whole new meaning.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, oh man, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So I mean speaking of people that are in the cast,
because you all, I mean you all had amazing careers,
you all blew up, and you know, then you've got
Kirsten Dunst, you know, in one of her kind of
earliest performances.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
What was it like working with her?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Can I be honest here? Of course, I mean, Kirsten's
professional and she's good at what she does. She I
don't she didn't feel like she was very happy to
be on that really.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Wow, I mean she was.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
She wasn't mean, she wasn't rude, she was always on point,
always did her job. But it was kind of like
this is just a movie of the week or something there.
And I think sometimes that happens, you know, when you're
young like that, you and you're starting to blow up.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
People are pulling on you constantly.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
This is something. This is something people don't realize. You
get pulled on all the time, all the time, and
even if you're not being asked for something, you're being
recognized and in that you are being asked for something.
Last year, I shaved my head for the first time ever,
and I went out into public and I and I'm
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not at that stage in my life where people are
chasing me anymore, you know what I mean. I can
people aren't running at me. They're like, oh my god.
You know, it's a whole different. I'm like a celebrity.
I'm not a star. But I didn't realize how. I
didn't know what anonymity was. Yeah, until I shaved my
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head and I realized, oh my god, this is cool.
I can just say hello to people and they're responding
to me as me right without you.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Of all the things you've been in and yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah, or just being stricken in this really weird and
it's not their fault, but I just it was something
that I didn't realize. I hadn't really experienced because I
was on my first hit TV series at twenty two.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Was that Fame.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, because I want to talk a little bit about Fame,
because Fame was, especially at the time, a groundbreaking show
that really kind of helped to define a genre of television.
I mean, everything after it, Glee, everything, else going on.
Everything came from Fame, So what was what was that
like to be part of something that was that cultural that.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Was life changing for me?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, And I remember, you know, going through the audition
there were like nine thousand.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
People I can't even imagine.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
And it's that whole was it a full cattle call
that they call big auditions like?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
I mean, the room is filled with just every dancer.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
They couldn't even let us in there we were. My
audition was at MGM Studio. What was MGM Studios it's
now Sony and in the famous rehearsal which is where
all those big musicals took place.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
In fact, I met Gene Kelly there, oh man, when
I was on Fame.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
It was very very cool.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And it's the line. You know, you're standing in line
with your picture and resume in the hot sun, and
then as far as your I could see there's people
who looked.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Just like you and people who don't, and then you
go through the whole thing. I mean, it really was
like Fame the movie where you walk in and there's
the table and everybody's sitting behind it, you know, tapping
their little pencils. What you got for us today? Kind
of a thing.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Oh it was.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
That the call, and I remember them saying, you'll know
by Friday, six pm, like months from then, because then
they went to Chicago and New York and Miami. They
were traveling all over the place to audition for these roles.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And they waited to the last minute of the last.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Hour of the and I was like, and everything changed
from there. And so then you because I am the
way that I am in that I'm naturally really shy.
I'm an introvert. I'm I'm just an introvert. I love people,
but I'm better like one on one or two, you know.
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And I've learned how to deal with crowds, and it's
fun to do that kind of a thing. But I
focused on the work. It was just way easier for me, Like, Okay,
I'm going to get in here. I'm just going to
focus on the work. That was my answer to everything.
Focus on the work. I mean. Even Janet Jackson was
on the show that year. I know, it's crazy, right,
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so well she wasn't. She wasn't the Janet you know, now,
right she was. I didn't even know there was a
Janet Jackson. Were we were staying in New York because
we used to shoot the exteriors for that show in
New York. So we do thirteen episodes outside and we
would start in the New York City and I remember
coming out of my hotel room and there were just
(09:04):
people lined up in the hallway and I'm like, what's
happening here? And they were sleeping outside her room. They
found out where she was and I'm like, who I
didn't like jan oh, oh, there's a Janet of the Jackson.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
That is insane?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
No, wait, is the for the audition for Fame? Did
you have to do everything? Is it singing? Is it's dancing?
It's acting? It's like you had to hit h Yeah?
And did you did.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
They make you prepare your own stuff? Was it like
come in and wow us?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Or did they you they gave you the scene to
prepare her and you brought in your own music that
you handed over.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
To the player or was it the well it.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Was the musical director, Yeah, Gary Scott, and then Debbie
Allen got up and gave you some dance steps and
You're like, I better.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Turl a tirl like I've never tirled before.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And the funny thing.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Is here the funny thing is they were like, okay,
are you a dancer? And I just went no, because
the only training I had was hula dancing. So the
kind of dancing they were asking for was, you know, ballet, tap, jazz, whatever. No, no, no,
no no. And they went, oh, okay, we'll just go ahead,
and Debbie gave me the steps and I went through
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them and the whole table started laughing, and I was like,
oh dang. And then I found out later they started
laughing because I said I wasn't a dancer, but what
they saw was impressive to them.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
They were better than a lot of the people who
came in and probably said they were dancers.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Thirteen years of dancing didn't dance anything. That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
No, no, you know, that's part of our job is
to lie about what we can and can't do. But
I just never could do that because I'm like, oh, hey,
well no, yeah, because then I have to step up
to it totally.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah. So that changed changed the whole ball game fame
and then okay, so I have to get into this
because there are a few movies in everybody's life that
mean so much to them, especially when they're younger, and
one of those movies for me was north Shore. It
was just one of those movies that was I watched
all the time. I do not surf, I don't take
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my shirt off at the beach. I don't know why
this movie meant so much to me, but I could
quote it to you now backwards, forwards and sideways. Can
we talk a little bit about how that movie came
into your life, because for those of you who don't
know north Shore, it's about a kid from Arizona who's
this tiny, tiny wave surfer.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
He surfs in wave pools, who then goes out to.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
The north Shore of Why, falls in love with a
beautiful woman, learns how to surf. It is the quintessential
cool kid of the eighties. And I'm just curious how
that movie came about for you.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Okay, So north Shore.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Actually I got the call for The north Shore after
they had already cast it really yeah, because they wanted
an authentic Hawaian and three quarters of the movie through
they just went, this is not working. Whoa yeah, call
me of People's So they called me in and I
remember sitting with Joe roth head of Yeah Yeah, and
(12:14):
he just like this movie kind of lives on and
dies on whether or not you can get in there
and do this. And this is my first movie, and
I'm just going, what, no pressure, that's just a little
bit of pressure. And that's how I got it. And
they brought me in and just slammed. They reshot every
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scene that she had done. And if you look really carefully,
you'll see because my hair's kind of straight and hers
was kind of bushier and wavier. There is a scene,
remember the scene when I'm on the horse with Rick
and we ride off after the whole ali Veras course.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I know the whole the whole movie backwards and it,
so of course I know that scene.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Okay, So after we hop on the horse, there's a
shot of behind us at a distance that's her.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
If you look, you can tell that the.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Hair is different.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
And watch it again, which is not a problem all
the time.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Now, how long did it take to shoot, because so
they just had to just redo your scenes, right, Well.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
They hadn't finished the movie yet, so I would say
I was probably there for three or four weeks. I
don't exactly remember.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Wow, yeah, but it was.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
It was jammed and cranked and I have a funny
story about that too, so they you know, I had
to ride a horse in that scene, and they had
me in this little crop top and I'm this is
my first movie, I'm shy, I'm whatever. And in the
scene they had a short distance. They wanted me to
be cantering the horse, which for those people who don't know,
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like there's a trot in the cantor is like more
like a run.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
But it's hard for a horse to do that.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
In the sand. You have to kind of get them
up and going because the sand is deep.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
So they wanted me.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
To get it get the horse up into a canter
very quickly. And so what that meant was you have
to squeeze and then you're holding the reins and you
squeeze the horse and then with your legs and then
you let it go. So what happened was to get
the horse to jump, it reared, the horn got stuck
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under my tongue and then and then off we went running,
and my shirt was whipped.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
White up, and I was like.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
It was it was I mean, now I would laugh, right, look,
have a good luck, what do I care?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
But back then, being so I was just horrify.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
You just made so many young boys of that generation
entire world.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
It was horrified, traumatized.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, gosh, what was the name of the lead in
that movie?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Met that Adler? That's right.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
We just had a twenty five twenty five year reunion
year or two.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Did you really who was was everybody there?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Everybody was there? Oh? Wow? Except laired Laird was there?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Man? He played such a bad guy. Oh, don't get me,
don't get me started.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Out of all of the big things that you've been in,
I mean, the list goes on and on. Are there
any that you knew while you were filming this is
gonna be you know, whether it's life changing or impactful?
Was there anything that you I mean, I would assume
fame felt every time you're on set, but that's because
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that was my dream growing up. But was there anything
that really sticks out that you just knew was going
to be huge?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Well? It's a really it's a really interesting thing because
I never wanted to be famous.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I was shy.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I didn't like being on stage. So then you go, well,
what in the hell are you doing doing that? And
some of it had to do with trying to break
through my shyness, right, and for me, the most brilliant
thing about acting and performing and singing and dancing is
being able to express yourself and touch other people and
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inspire them to something. And acting teaches you compassion. You
step into the shoes of one hundred different characters, you
learned compassion. So I would say that I didn't realize.
There were two times when I realized, Okay, my life
has really changed. One of them I liked, and one
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of them I didn't. The first time was when I
was driving down Sunset Boulevard and I looked up and
there was the North Shore billboard. Oh my gosh, and
I went oh, and parts like, Okay, that's really weird
because my face is bigger than that building and ps.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Nobody told me it was going on.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah, and they don't know. And in that moment, you
realize you're a product. Yeah, And it was like, so
it was a little weird the time. The other time
was the first time I left the country after doing Fame,
and I flew into Rome and got in the taxi
and they were taking me to wherever I had to go.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I was doing some show called and we were driving
around Rome and.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
If you've ever been there, it's busy like crazy and
everybody's on motor scooters. Back then they had no helmets,
jam packed full of these people on scooters. You know,
the women are sitting cross legged on the back, smoking
cigarettes and having cappuccino as it's crazy, but they were
all yelling at me, going nicka.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
And you know Italians with their they just.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
And I was like this I love because it felt
like communion with life people. That part I loved, so
I you know, so roles wise, yeah, fame.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Fame was a big one.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
It was the biggest one.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Did you have a first love, meaning like singing, dancing, acting?
Was there something that you wanted to do more than
another thing.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
That well, like I said, I never wanted to be
in the public eye, so that wasn't really But the
first thing that I would that I always did was sing.
I just kind of rolled out of my mother's belly
singing wow. And but always to myself, I hated singing
in front of people. My most natural form of expression
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is actually movement, it's dance. And now being so trained
up in acting, which to me, I mean if you
if you want to get good therapy, become an actor,
like really dig like with Meisner, I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yah.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Also, if you want to get therapy, become an actor, yes, they.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
I swear.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I think that's why most actors or actors anyway.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, oh that's so funny. So then it was it
singing more than anything that brought you to something like
the Party Machine.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
The party Machine, that's a that's a mixed bag of
thing part machine at top of the pops. Right, so,
right out of fame, I got.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
My first record deal, okay.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
And so what happened was music videos were just starting
to happen. Anytime a recording artist would be in New York,
MTV would say, hey, can you come in and host
a show? Because back then the shows were only in
front of the green screen. Okay, okay, So as an artist,
for promotion's sake, you'd go in, you'd host a show,
and then all of a sudden, people are like, oh
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my gosh, she can read cue cards. Fantastic. And then
you know, people like our Sineo would would see me
and say hey, hey, I want to do this thing.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And with the Party Machine, what happened was.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Because his show was so successful, he was given the
half hour after his show as a producer to do
whatever he wanted to do and he was such Yeah,
he was such a fan.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
He thought, Okay, I want to do something with nea
people's and.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I remember him talking to me about it, but he
really didn't know what it was. We didn't know what
the show was until two weeks before we shot it.
And I remember shooting the promo going, you know, it's
like a party and a machine and there's music.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
And fun times.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, great, come.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
On, I had no I did not know what I
was going to be doing.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
We didn't. We talked about when we first talked about
it, it was going to be live music, live everything, and
it was two days a week, Friday Saturday nights, and
it ended up six nights a week lip lipsyn, which
is all an entirely different show.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Wow, yeah it was.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Oh boy, that was that was an interesting That was
an interesting experience. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Man, So get getting back to Tower of Tear.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah we should talk more to I could, because I
just want to talk north Shore y. Yeah yeah, yeah,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I'm still I still have nineteen different north Shore questions.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yes, he's still got a list, Turtle like, he's amazing,
is he.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Got so many questions, so many very important movie and
my child.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Oh I love that. For Tower of Tear.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
When's the last time you've gotten a chance to watch it?
Have you watched it recently at all?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I have never watched the whole thing, probably past my
kids growing up. Okay, you know, so let's see. My
daughter is now twenty five. She might have been thirteen,
twelve thirteen the last time that I watched the full
thing with her, And you know, as a mom watching
with their kids, you're not really watching. You're cooking dinner
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and whatever you're doing is it's been a long time,
but it's always been very fond in my heart because
it was such a light, fun.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Movie and so great.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
You got to share that with her, like that's oh,
that's pretty awesome to be able to then have her
see where you were at that time, and it's you
can step away and not feel like anything weird's gonna happen,
and that's so awesome.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
It was.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
It was great.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
And my son was on the set with me because
he's ten years older.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Oh okay, wow, that's cool. That's cool. Okay, I have
a question the woman. Oh well, you're gonna have to
remind me of her name.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
That okay, So it's about. So it's a guy in Arizona.
He's a surfer. He goes through Is this what we're
talking about?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
He goes to the big grave. He was They steal
his his art supplies. Like right, the first are we
not doing the.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
North SHOREA will do an entire different episode with her
for you and.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Sorry, her brothers were not into this relationship, by the way.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It was okay, they didn't like it bad.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
So anyway, the the woman that's in this movie, the
older woman who's trying to get this spell situation.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Yeah, was she I have to know this. She creaked
me out. Was she creepy in person?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
No?
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Okay, good, because she played an amazing creepy older woman.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
She they both did, actually, because they did a great
mcguffin with the with the Nanny too, where you think
the nanny and she played kind of the great creepy
person with then that great transition to being very nurturing was.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Kind of cool at the end.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, but uh, this is our connection, which then again
to me, is my connection to North Sure is I
get a show in the nineties Cold Boy mes World
and my little sister on Boy Meets World was the
little girl in Tower of Terror, so Na.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Benjy Ridgeway VINJ.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Ridgway played my little sister, So that was my that
was my connection to to Tower of Terror. And seeing
kind of again the Disney synergy, which they love to do,
is this connection of we want to put you in this,
we want to put you in this one.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So was this? Had you worked for Disney before this?
And have you worked for them since?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I worked for Disney the company?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
But you know who owned who back when?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Now?
Speaker 5 (24:34):
So true?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
SOB see the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, I mean I've you know, I'm just gonna say
I'm a whore. But no, that's not what I meant
in terms.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Of all work for anybody.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I think you could just say actor at that point.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
And then we're back to some therapy.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
We don't. We don't pick and choose networks and stuff.
It's kind of like what is available? What do you
ca all four four?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
And where are you?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Where do you want to raise your kids?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, was that not?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Of course I've worked with me.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Are you still in Los Angeles? Surrounded by the loveliness?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Well? Interestingly about in twenty fifteen, I really had this
kind of awakening thing of like, oh my god, you've
been doing this for thirty five years.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
My youngest child went off to college and I went.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Who are you?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
What do you want? Yeah? And I gave everything away,
most everything away, sold my house and just started wandering.
Really so I don't even have an agent, no, but
I'm writing this is like, there's just I wanted everything
to come purely from my heart, because you know how
the business is. You have this beautiful, lovely interaction that
(25:48):
you have with people that you're writing music with, or
that you're promoting albums with, or that you're doing zooms
with for these kinds of awesome shows, and then you
have the corporate structure of things. And you know what's
corporate structure, And so you just kind of go, okay, wait,
I've served that a lot. What is calling through me
now in the most pure, unadulterated form.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Can you allow yourself to pay attention to that?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
And so I have, and so I have released a
children's book called The Little Apple Tree.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Cute.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Uh oh cool.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, it's called the Little Apple Tree.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
It's an amazing story and it came through me really
really quickly, and it's been in a pilot school for
the last few years in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and it's
changing lives. It's astounding. And now I'm working with an
AI company to bring it to life to help teach
kids of it. Right now, it's in twelve different languages,
(26:42):
so kids can log on and learn. Soon they will
be able to how to read and be read to
in that language. The Little Apple Tree. Wow, Yeah, it's
really really fun.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And I and the.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Second I gotta get on that, you know it.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I'll send you, guys a link year old.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
I'm all about trying to find books and especially I
really want her to learn different languages and stuff.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Oh man, Okay, so you guys have my email, yes,
and just I'll send you.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
I'll go buy wherever, wherever you're selling it, I will
go buy it.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Absolutely. That sounds amazing. Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
My daughter's a little too old.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
So how old is she?
Speaker 5 (27:19):
How many months old is she?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
My daughter's thirty four, so she's a little a little
that's like my son too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So I guess one of the things I would say
is because you're you, I know, you say you're shy
and you don't like to you know, even though you
are a performer, you can tell at heart and looking
for that next thing. One of the things that I
did when I hit that spot in my career is
the connection directly to the fans is amazing. So if
you ever have a chance to do a convention, you should.
(27:50):
That's what I would say, is you should. I think
the people would love to meet you. You get you'll
hear some it's like me fan gushing going, oh my god,
north Shore, It's that times one thousand, and it's just
you have then a direct connection with the people that
you've impacted, and it's pretty wonderful.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
So I think you'd like it and be great.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I adore fans, I mean honestly, you especially when you
get this far along, this far away from you know,
because the last thing major thing I did was the
Fosters and Pretty Little Liars, which is you know there
that's a pretty young, youngish crowd and it was kind
of like pll fever. But when you get years away
from things that you've already done, the people who stick
(28:30):
it out as your fans usually stick it out because
there was a heart connection and that becomes a really
cool thing. And so I've I've really been just kind
of waiting until I knew what I wanted to share
with everybody. So I'm terrible on social media and all
of that right now. But the book is I'm just
(28:50):
now starting to upload it. I've met with the Chalktan Nation,
and I'll be meeting with Cherokee and the Chicka Sauce
about implementing it in their languages in their Wow. Yeah,
it's really I just it's I love it so much.
And then there's my second book is Confessions of a
Serial Mononamous, and that's a journey of the Feminine Rising.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
And that's the journey that the first year of the
journey that I took.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Wow, left, that's amazing, all right.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So being as removed as you are from it now
and being more introspective, if you got a chance to
meet yourself starting out in the industry, what would you
tell yourself?
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Light up, it's all okay, yeah, enjoy yourself more. I
mean I was so shy that I was just like,
it was way easier for me to hide in excellence.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yeah, that was it was just a way easier place
for me to be.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
You know, I enjoyed a lot more now I'm I'm shy,
but I'm way more comfortable.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
With myself now, so it's okay.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, I'm I'm a lot more comfortable doing these things now.
But back then it was just like, well you have
to be on point, did you you know, It's just
I would be.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
I mean, I feel a lot of that is on
the the industry in general, but music, the music world
is is absolutely very demanding, you know, And so I
think that that definitely makes sense because you do get this.
You know, if you're not perfect, then you're wasting time,
everyone's time and money.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
You know.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, definitely, And the culture is very different now to
just with all the with all the social media.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Holy smokes, it's like instant painful.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Industry is absolutely different.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
If there was going to be a Tower of Terror too,
where do you think, what do you think your character
would be doing and would you be interested in doing it?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Of course I would be interested in doing it because
it was fun. Like that's my that's my rule now,
Like people ask me all the time, would you ever
want to go back to the industry. No, I don't
want to go in the way that I was in.
But if something fun or something meaningful shows up, then
I'll pay attention to it.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, it's all about the heart for me. So what
role would I play? Well, it depends on if it
was a sequel or a remake.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Oh interesting, okay, right, so if.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
It was a sequel, I don't know. Now you're asking
me to make up.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
A story on the spot.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I need wait right.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Now, plug it into AI.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
But there would definitely have to be something between me
and Steve. Yeah, yeah, you know that relationship. There would be.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
I can see that that I would say with the
first movie, was you know, I'm such a rom com
theme that I wish it had developed.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
More of Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
There was no obvious direction of what was going to
happen with the two of you, and I wanted something more,
so I think the second.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
One so forth they set it up where it almost
seemed like he was kidding on Melaura Harden's character a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
He was sitting on the pace. Yeah it's not a ghost.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
It was that that was odd.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I wonder if he invited her to his trailer also.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Like she'd seen a ghost.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
I can tell you that's how she had that shock
look almost oh oh, and then.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
When there is going to be a sequel to north Shore,
because I'm still holding out for that.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Actually, I mean I've spoken to Randall Kleiser. They've been
trying to get that off the ground for a long
time and.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
They stopping them.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I don't I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I really, I really don't know, because I I know
what the potential storylines are and uh and it has
to do with me in Turtle.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
You in Turtle?
Speaker 4 (32:42):
What?
Speaker 5 (32:43):
You in Turtle?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
What?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
No, I'm gonna say, my god, I love.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I don't know what to do now. I don't know
what to do. Everything's different. It was one thing and
now it's something else. Oh man, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Well, I mean I know that there's an entire generation
of people that would love to see that movie. And
one of the movies we watched on one of the
dcoms we watched, which is huge, is called Johnny Tsunami,
which is another big kind of surfing snowboarding movie. So
that whole generation would be growing up looking for something
like the north Shore. So as much fun as Tower
(33:19):
of Terror to this time, it's personal would.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Be north Shore to something with Turtle.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Oh, I would freak out something with turtle.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
You know, one of the coolest things about the North
Shore at this because I tend to not want to.
I didn't never liked going back to Fame reunions or
Walker reunions or any I'm just like, people get on
with your lives, right, But you start to really understand,
like I said, the people who stick it out, there's
a meaning to it that is so much deeper than
just people fawning over the way you looked in a movie.
(33:53):
And so when we had this twenty five year reunion,
the most beautiful aspect of it was that the little
boys like you who are fans, grew up and introduced
it to their children. Yeah, and they brought their kids
and like, this is a movie that they always watched together.
And so the little kids now are like, wow, it's
(34:15):
Kani and it's just it's something that the families bring
their They just bring their families around this movie and
they share it with each other. It's so Ohana, it's
really good.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
It was really amazing. Well, thank you so much for
joining us.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
You've in a way made everything better and in another
way made everything so much worse because now I don't
know what's gonna happen and I've got a free watch
or shore again.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Oh gosh, and thank.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
You for coming and talk to us about Tower of
Terror two, which was just, you know, a movie.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
We liked it.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
We were going through these dcoms in these wonderful world
of Disney's and we're just seeing one of the kind
of threads that goes through everything.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Is like you said, they're fun and they're.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Light, and it's especially in the world we live in now,
there's something nice about just going back to that type
of film. Absolutely, it's just fun and lighten your joy
yourself and Tartar was definitely one of them for us.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
So I was one of those I was one of
those people taking it too like I wanted it to
be so scary, and then I realized it was a
Disney movie, and it was about was this could be
my daughter's first kind of scary, creepy movie, you know,
and which is so great because again, it's not going
to be too scary. It's it's a little eerie, but
not too scary. So it's such a great family film.
(35:28):
And we love that you have such great memory shooting
it and now it.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Was it was an awesome experience and it's a fun
movie and I'm so glad that it plays every Halloween.
And you know what just hit me sitting here talking
to you guys. I had totally forgotten about this. The
very first video Rewatch show Disney ever did.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Was really Wow.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
And what I did this is when I was making records,
I would come in and introduce their cartoons really wow.
Somewhere on YouTube I ran across that somebody sent me
this thing, and I went, oh my, you know, you
forget that you've done these things.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
So the very first.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Little video thing that they did Rewatching there, it was
their cartoons.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
That's awesome, cool and once again a trailblazer.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I mean, fame and all.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I mean seriously, fame is one of those for anybody.
I'm a television junkie. And it changed the scope of TV.
I mean it really, It added an entirely new genre
of television.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
And it changed lives. I mean, this was the thing
I met.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I met a woman that was a friend of my sisters,
and she was from Hungry or something, and she looked
at me and she was just in shock, and she goes, no,
you don't understand. When we when the curtain fell, we
were under communism, we were only allowed, you know, to
watch certain things. And when the curtain fell, one of
the first things we saw was fame and MTV, And
(36:57):
so you can imagine she said, everything in my world
was gray. All the sound, all the television was controlled
by the Communist party, and when that went to you know,
fell apart. Suddenly we were watching people singing and dancing
and jump them all over cars?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (37:15):
And that's what's happening in the rest of the world.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Godzy, powerful things have pretty amazing legacy to have.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Yes, I was real blessed.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Thank you guys, you're amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
If we do a north Shore rewatch, will you come
back and talk?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yes, Oh, I'm going to make that happen.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
To make it happen.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Is there some way that north Shore was a secret
d com that I don't know about, and that way
we can put it on the show.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
We'll figure it out.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
We'll figure it out.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Maybe that's what it can be in the future.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Yeah, but what Turtle exactly?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I can't my mind's blown.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I can't even Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
It's my pleasure and we can't wait to see you again.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Take it easy.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I don't I don't. I don't know to say. I
don't want to say.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
In Turtle, I mean, are they together? Are they not together?
Are they still friends? Do their own company? My mind
is spinning right.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Now the amount that you made fun of me for
geeking out.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
About what over Brink?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
You cannot compare Brink and the north Shore, not comparing
the movies.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
But I did not think I would ever see you.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
You were like, you can't compare break in the north Shore.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
You were like episodes over Who cares about Tower Tear?
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Tower Tear? That was the one we were supposed to
talk about, right, Oh, that's right.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I had nia peoples here talking about north Shore.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I know I couldn't. I couldn't RenEEL you back.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
In was probably one of the hardest things I've had
to do on this podcast since we start.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
You're never gonna reel me back.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
There will be certain people that will come on this
podcast where I am out on an expedition, because have
you seen north Shore?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
It's magical.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
I haven't, but I'm telling you, I'm gonna need somebody
to tell me where to get it, because I've got.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
To know now. Heavin.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I don't get it's streams on the Angel Channel because
it's awesome. No, that was She was great and I
love that she's talking about Tower of Terror and I'm
so glad that she was able to join us.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I know we didn't talk too much Tower of Terror, but.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Well that's okay, But she is amazing.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
She She's like one of those people you meet quickly
and know she is a light in anyone that's close
to her.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Yeah, she's a light for them.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
She's also she's been around for a while. She doesn't
look like she's aged a day and is just has
story after story after story. I mean, it's just that's
one of those people where we I hope she's in
more movies coming up because I'd like to continue talking.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I know, she was awesome.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
I mean, she's so great and I I'm so excited
for whatever does draw her to her next question. She
just seems to her energy is just gonna pull things
to her and whatever she picks to be in, it's
going to be pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yea, And thank you Nia peoples for joining us as
we talked about recapped and really got to live the
magic that is the North Shore thank you again.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Pull it together, Bill, thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
And join us next time. Don't forget.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
You can subscribe to our channel and of course follow
us on Magical rewind Pod on the Instagram Machine and
we'll see you next time.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
She in Turtle, I don't
And thank you so much for joining us this time
on our Park Copper episode. We're both very excited about
this interview, not only because she has been around for
a long time and been acting for over thirty years,
done some of the coolest movies, television shows, music, you
name it, she's involved in it. But she was also
an integral part in the movie we just covered, Tower
of Terror.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
We are very excited today to welcome Nia. People's hi there, Hey,
there you are, Hey, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm great?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
How are you guys?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We're good, well, I'm good. I won't speak for Sabrina. Sabrina,
are you good?
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Great? So glad to have you here with us.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Looks like fun.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's not gonna be. This is terrible torture.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
It's about torture.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We go right into the heart of the badness. No,
of course, we're very excited to have you here. We
had just watched and did our own little review of
Tower of Terror.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
What a fun show.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Well, you have had such an incredible career in movies, music, TV.
But I need to know do people bring up Tower
of Terer?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Do you? Yes?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Yes, I love it? Oh good? That makes me feel.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Say yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there are a few things
in my career that I've done that kind of hit
that a specific place for someone, and Tower of Terror
was like, oh my god, they play it every Halloween
and it's funny.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, So it's a it's a.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
It just offers up something fun for the whole family
to do. You know.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Fame was kind of.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Like that for me. Walker Texas Ranger was the north Shore.
There are just these certain things that are will never
go away.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
We're going to get into north Shore. I can't even
with north Shore because.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
We're going to get into north So do you remember
your audition for Tower I do good?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Please tell us something about that.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It was just fun I mean that, you know, in
my career, I didn't have a lot of opportunities to
kind of be funny. And there's just this natural preset
to the way that I am that is kind of
like that Sandra Bullock kind of humor. And so when
this came up, it was just so natural for me
(02:25):
that I rolled in and it was like, oh my god,
this is this is her, this is thank you. And
to work with Steve Gutenberg, who I worked with again later,
it was just it was great.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
What was that like? That's what I was going to
ask about was Steve Steve, did you get to audition.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
At all with him or with that?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I don't. I don't think that I did. For that one,
he was he was probably already placed in it and
then they read a few of us. But I don't
think I had to read with him for that one.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
What was it like working with him?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Well, Steve is funny and he's fun and I the.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
He's definitely he definitely has that light, kind of goofy
kind of humor.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
So that was fun.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Now.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I do have a funny story in that he said
to me, you know, when you have like an hour
break for lunch, just come on buy at lunch and
we can. I don't don't even remember why he said
to come. I don't know if it was to look
at some other movie that he was like, I don't
I don't remember. I just remember walking up and the
(03:30):
door was opened but the screen was closed, and he
had nothing on and was walking by, and I was
just like, I love Steve, but that's more than I
need to know.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
And then you have to go back on the set
with them and just go.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Hold it together.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I have seen.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Them a trick like was he bringing you over just
to joke with you and do that to you.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It's something you have to ask him.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Oh man, I guess Tower terror a whole new meaning.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, oh man, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So I mean speaking of people that are in the cast,
because you all, I mean you all had amazing careers,
you all blew up, and you know, then you've got
Kirsten Dunst, you know, in one of her kind of
earliest performances.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
What was it like working with her?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Can I be honest here? Of course, I mean, Kirsten's
professional and she's good at what she does. She I
don't she didn't feel like she was very happy to
be on that really.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Wow, I mean she was.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
She wasn't mean, she wasn't rude, she was always on point,
always did her job. But it was kind of like
this is just a movie of the week or something there.
And I think sometimes that happens, you know, when you're
young like that, you and you're starting to blow up.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
People are pulling on you constantly.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
This is something. This is something people don't realize. You
get pulled on all the time, all the time, and
even if you're not being asked for something, you're being
recognized and in that you are being asked for something.
Last year, I shaved my head for the first time ever,
and I went out into public and I and I'm
(05:19):
not at that stage in my life where people are
chasing me anymore, you know what I mean. I can
people aren't running at me. They're like, oh my god.
You know, it's a whole different. I'm like a celebrity.
I'm not a star. But I didn't realize how. I
didn't know what anonymity was. Yeah, until I shaved my
(05:41):
head and I realized, oh my god, this is cool.
I can just say hello to people and they're responding
to me as me right without you.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Of all the things you've been in and yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah, or just being stricken in this really weird and
it's not their fault, but I just it was something
that I didn't realize. I hadn't really experienced because I
was on my first hit TV series at twenty two.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Was that Fame.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, because I want to talk a little bit about Fame,
because Fame was, especially at the time, a groundbreaking show
that really kind of helped to define a genre of television.
I mean, everything after it, Glee, everything, else going on.
Everything came from Fame, So what was what was that
like to be part of something that was that cultural that.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Was life changing for me?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, And I remember, you know, going through the audition
there were like nine thousand.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
People I can't even imagine.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
And it's that whole was it a full cattle call
that they call big auditions like?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
I mean, the room is filled with just every dancer.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
They couldn't even let us in there we were. My
audition was at MGM Studio. What was MGM Studios it's
now Sony and in the famous rehearsal which is where
all those big musicals took place.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
In fact, I met Gene Kelly there, oh man, when
I was on Fame.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
It was very very cool.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And it's the line. You know, you're standing in line
with your picture and resume in the hot sun, and
then as far as your I could see there's people
who looked.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Just like you and people who don't, and then you
go through the whole thing. I mean, it really was
like Fame the movie where you walk in and there's
the table and everybody's sitting behind it, you know, tapping
their little pencils. What you got for us today? Kind
of a thing.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Oh it was.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
That the call, and I remember them saying, you'll know
by Friday, six pm, like months from then, because then
they went to Chicago and New York and Miami. They
were traveling all over the place to audition for these roles.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And they waited to the last minute of the last.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Hour of the and I was like, and everything changed
from there. And so then you because I am the
way that I am in that I'm naturally really shy.
I'm an introvert. I'm I'm just an introvert. I love people,
but I'm better like one on one or two, you know.
(08:20):
And I've learned how to deal with crowds, and it's
fun to do that kind of a thing. But I
focused on the work. It was just way easier for me, Like, Okay,
I'm going to get in here. I'm just going to
focus on the work. That was my answer to everything.
Focus on the work. I mean. Even Janet Jackson was
on the show that year. I know, it's crazy, right,
(08:43):
so well she wasn't. She wasn't the Janet you know, now,
right she was. I didn't even know there was a
Janet Jackson. Were we were staying in New York because
we used to shoot the exteriors for that show in
New York. So we do thirteen episodes outside and we
would start in the New York City and I remember
coming out of my hotel room and there were just
(09:04):
people lined up in the hallway and I'm like, what's
happening here? And they were sleeping outside her room. They
found out where she was and I'm like, who I
didn't like jan oh, oh, there's a Janet of the Jackson.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
That is insane?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
No, wait, is the for the audition for Fame? Did
you have to do everything? Is it singing? Is it's dancing?
It's acting? It's like you had to hit h Yeah?
And did you did.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
They make you prepare your own stuff? Was it like
come in and wow us?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Or did they you they gave you the scene to
prepare her and you brought in your own music that
you handed over.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
To the player or was it the well it.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Was the musical director, Yeah, Gary Scott, and then Debbie
Allen got up and gave you some dance steps and
You're like, I better.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Turl a tirl like I've never tirled before.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And the funny thing.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Is here the funny thing is they were like, okay,
are you a dancer? And I just went no, because
the only training I had was hula dancing. So the
kind of dancing they were asking for was, you know, ballet, tap, jazz, whatever. No, no, no,
no no. And they went, oh, okay, we'll just go ahead,
and Debbie gave me the steps and I went through
(10:22):
them and the whole table started laughing, and I was like,
oh dang. And then I found out later they started
laughing because I said I wasn't a dancer, but what
they saw was impressive to them.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
They were better than a lot of the people who
came in and probably said they were dancers.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Thirteen years of dancing didn't dance anything. That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
No, no, you know, that's part of our job is
to lie about what we can and can't do. But
I just never could do that because I'm like, oh, hey,
well no, yeah, because then I have to step up
to it totally.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah. So that changed changed the whole ball game fame
and then okay, so I have to get into this
because there are a few movies in everybody's life that
mean so much to them, especially when they're younger, and
one of those movies for me was north Shore. It
was just one of those movies that was I watched
all the time. I do not surf, I don't take
(11:17):
my shirt off at the beach. I don't know why
this movie meant so much to me, but I could
quote it to you now backwards, forwards and sideways. Can
we talk a little bit about how that movie came
into your life, because for those of you who don't
know north Shore, it's about a kid from Arizona who's
this tiny, tiny wave surfer.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
He surfs in wave pools, who then goes out to.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
The north Shore of Why, falls in love with a
beautiful woman, learns how to surf. It is the quintessential
cool kid of the eighties. And I'm just curious how
that movie came about for you.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Okay, So north Shore.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Actually I got the call for The north Shore after
they had already cast it really yeah, because they wanted
an authentic Hawaian and three quarters of the movie through
they just went, this is not working. Whoa yeah, call
me of People's So they called me in and I
remember sitting with Joe roth head of Yeah Yeah, and
(12:14):
he just like this movie kind of lives on and
dies on whether or not you can get in there
and do this. And this is my first movie, and
I'm just going, what, no pressure, that's just a little
bit of pressure. And that's how I got it. And
they brought me in and just slammed. They reshot every
(12:34):
scene that she had done. And if you look really carefully,
you'll see because my hair's kind of straight and hers
was kind of bushier and wavier. There is a scene,
remember the scene when I'm on the horse with Rick
and we ride off after the whole ali Veras course.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I know the whole the whole movie backwards and it,
so of course I know that scene.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Okay, So after we hop on the horse, there's a
shot of behind us at a distance that's her.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
If you look, you can tell that the.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Hair is different.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
And watch it again, which is not a problem all
the time.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Now, how long did it take to shoot, because so
they just had to just redo your scenes, right, Well.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
They hadn't finished the movie yet, so I would say
I was probably there for three or four weeks. I
don't exactly remember.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Wow, yeah, but it was.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
It was jammed and cranked and I have a funny
story about that too, so they you know, I had
to ride a horse in that scene, and they had
me in this little crop top and I'm this is
my first movie, I'm shy, I'm whatever. And in the
scene they had a short distance. They wanted me to
be cantering the horse, which for those people who don't know,
(13:47):
like there's a trot in the cantor is like more
like a run.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
But it's hard for a horse to do that.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
In the sand. You have to kind of get them
up and going because the sand is deep.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
So they wanted me.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
To get it get the horse up into a canter
very quickly. And so what that meant was you have
to squeeze and then you're holding the reins and you
squeeze the horse and then with your legs and then
you let it go. So what happened was to get
the horse to jump, it reared, the horn got stuck
(14:20):
under my tongue and then and then off we went running,
and my shirt was whipped.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
White up, and I was like.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
It was it was I mean, now I would laugh, right, look,
have a good luck, what do I care?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
But back then, being so I was just horrify.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
You just made so many young boys of that generation
entire world.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
It was horrified, traumatized.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, gosh, what was the name of the lead in
that movie?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Met that Adler? That's right.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
We just had a twenty five twenty five year reunion
year or two.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Did you really who was was everybody there?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Everybody was there? Oh? Wow? Except laired Laird was there?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Man? He played such a bad guy. Oh, don't get me,
don't get me started.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Out of all of the big things that you've been in,
I mean, the list goes on and on. Are there
any that you knew while you were filming this is
gonna be you know, whether it's life changing or impactful?
Was there anything that you I mean, I would assume
fame felt every time you're on set, but that's because
(15:47):
that was my dream growing up. But was there anything
that really sticks out that you just knew was going
to be huge?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Well? It's a really it's a really interesting thing because
I never wanted to be famous.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I was shy.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I didn't like being on stage. So then you go, well,
what in the hell are you doing doing that? And
some of it had to do with trying to break
through my shyness, right, and for me, the most brilliant
thing about acting and performing and singing and dancing is
being able to express yourself and touch other people and
(16:22):
inspire them to something. And acting teaches you compassion. You
step into the shoes of one hundred different characters, you
learned compassion. So I would say that I didn't realize.
There were two times when I realized, Okay, my life
has really changed. One of them I liked, and one
(16:43):
of them I didn't. The first time was when I
was driving down Sunset Boulevard and I looked up and
there was the North Shore billboard. Oh my gosh, and
I went oh, and parts like, Okay, that's really weird
because my face is bigger than that building and ps.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Nobody told me it was going on.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah, and they don't know. And in that moment, you
realize you're a product. Yeah, And it was like, so
it was a little weird the time. The other time
was the first time I left the country after doing Fame,
and I flew into Rome and got in the taxi
and they were taking me to wherever I had to go.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I was doing some show called and we were driving
around Rome and.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
If you've ever been there, it's busy like crazy and
everybody's on motor scooters. Back then they had no helmets,
jam packed full of these people on scooters. You know,
the women are sitting cross legged on the back, smoking
cigarettes and having cappuccino as it's crazy, but they were
all yelling at me, going nicka.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
And you know Italians with their they just.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
And I was like this I love because it felt
like communion with life people. That part I loved, so
I you know, so roles wise, yeah, fame.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Fame was a big one.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
It was the biggest one.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Did you have a first love, meaning like singing, dancing, acting?
Was there something that you wanted to do more than
another thing.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
That well, like I said, I never wanted to be
in the public eye, so that wasn't really But the
first thing that I would that I always did was sing.
I just kind of rolled out of my mother's belly
singing wow. And but always to myself, I hated singing
in front of people. My most natural form of expression
(18:46):
is actually movement, it's dance. And now being so trained
up in acting, which to me, I mean if you
if you want to get good therapy, become an actor,
like really dig like with Meisner, I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yah.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Also, if you want to get therapy, become an actor, yes, they.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
I swear.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I think that's why most actors or actors anyway.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, oh that's so funny. So then it was it
singing more than anything that brought you to something like
the Party Machine.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
The party Machine, that's a that's a mixed bag of
thing part machine at top of the pops. Right, so,
right out of fame, I got.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
My first record deal, okay.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
And so what happened was music videos were just starting
to happen. Anytime a recording artist would be in New York,
MTV would say, hey, can you come in and host
a show? Because back then the shows were only in
front of the green screen. Okay, okay, So as an artist,
for promotion's sake, you'd go in, you'd host a show,
and then all of a sudden, people are like, oh
(19:53):
my gosh, she can read cue cards. Fantastic. And then
you know, people like our Sineo would would see me
and say hey, hey, I want to do this thing.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And with the Party Machine, what happened was.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Because his show was so successful, he was given the
half hour after his show as a producer to do
whatever he wanted to do and he was such Yeah,
he was such a fan.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
He thought, Okay, I want to do something with nea
people's and.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I remember him talking to me about it, but he
really didn't know what it was. We didn't know what
the show was until two weeks before we shot it.
And I remember shooting the promo going, you know, it's
like a party and a machine and there's music.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
And fun times.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, great, come.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
On, I had no I did not know what I
was going to be doing.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
We didn't. We talked about when we first talked about
it, it was going to be live music, live everything, and
it was two days a week, Friday Saturday nights, and
it ended up six nights a week lip lipsyn, which
is all an entirely different show.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Wow, yeah it was.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Oh boy, that was that was an interesting That was
an interesting experience. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Man, So get getting back to Tower of Tear.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah we should talk more to I could, because I
just want to talk north Shore y. Yeah yeah, yeah,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I'm still I still have nineteen different north Shore questions.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yes, he's still got a list, Turtle like, he's amazing,
is he.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Got so many questions, so many very important movie and
my child.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Oh I love that. For Tower of Tear.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
When's the last time you've gotten a chance to watch it?
Have you watched it recently at all?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I have never watched the whole thing, probably past my
kids growing up. Okay, you know, so let's see. My
daughter is now twenty five. She might have been thirteen,
twelve thirteen the last time that I watched the full
thing with her, And you know, as a mom watching
with their kids, you're not really watching. You're cooking dinner
(22:04):
and whatever you're doing is it's been a long time,
but it's always been very fond in my heart because
it was such a light, fun.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Movie and so great.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
You got to share that with her, like that's oh,
that's pretty awesome to be able to then have her
see where you were at that time, and it's you
can step away and not feel like anything weird's gonna happen,
and that's so awesome.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
It was.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
It was great.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
And my son was on the set with me because
he's ten years older.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Oh okay, wow, that's cool. That's cool. Okay, I have
a question the woman. Oh well, you're gonna have to
remind me of her name.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
That okay, So it's about. So it's a guy in Arizona.
He's a surfer. He goes through Is this what we're
talking about?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
He goes to the big grave. He was They steal
his his art supplies. Like right, the first are we
not doing the.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
North SHOREA will do an entire different episode with her
for you and.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Sorry, her brothers were not into this relationship, by the way.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It was okay, they didn't like it bad.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
So anyway, the the woman that's in this movie, the
older woman who's trying to get this spell situation.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Yeah, was she I have to know this. She creaked
me out. Was she creepy in person?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
No?
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Okay, good, because she played an amazing creepy older woman.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
She they both did, actually, because they did a great
mcguffin with the with the Nanny too, where you think
the nanny and she played kind of the great creepy
person with then that great transition to being very nurturing was.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Kind of cool at the end.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, but uh, this is our connection, which then again
to me, is my connection to North Sure is I
get a show in the nineties Cold Boy mes World
and my little sister on Boy Meets World was the
little girl in Tower of Terror, so Na.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Benjy Ridgeway VINJ.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Ridgway played my little sister, So that was my that
was my connection to to Tower of Terror. And seeing
kind of again the Disney synergy, which they love to do,
is this connection of we want to put you in this,
we want to put you in this one.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So was this? Had you worked for Disney before this?
And have you worked for them since?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I worked for Disney the company?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
But you know who owned who back when?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Now?
Speaker 5 (24:34):
So true?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
SOB see the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, I mean I've you know, I'm just gonna say
I'm a whore. But no, that's not what I meant
in terms.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Of all work for anybody.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I think you could just say actor at that point.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
And then we're back to some therapy.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
We don't. We don't pick and choose networks and stuff.
It's kind of like what is available? What do you
ca all four four?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
And where are you?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Where do you want to raise your kids?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, was that not?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Of course I've worked with me.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Are you still in Los Angeles? Surrounded by the loveliness?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Well? Interestingly about in twenty fifteen, I really had this
kind of awakening thing of like, oh my god, you've
been doing this for thirty five years.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
My youngest child went off to college and I went.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Who are you?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
What do you want? Yeah? And I gave everything away,
most everything away, sold my house and just started wandering.
Really so I don't even have an agent, no, but
I'm writing this is like, there's just I wanted everything
to come purely from my heart, because you know how
the business is. You have this beautiful, lovely interaction that
(25:48):
you have with people that you're writing music with, or
that you're promoting albums with, or that you're doing zooms
with for these kinds of awesome shows, and then you
have the corporate structure of things. And you know what's
corporate structure, And so you just kind of go, okay, wait,
I've served that a lot. What is calling through me
now in the most pure, unadulterated form.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Can you allow yourself to pay attention to that?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
And so I have, and so I have released a
children's book called The Little Apple Tree.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Cute.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Uh oh cool.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, it's called the Little Apple Tree.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
It's an amazing story and it came through me really
really quickly, and it's been in a pilot school for
the last few years in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and it's
changing lives. It's astounding. And now I'm working with an
AI company to bring it to life to help teach
kids of it. Right now, it's in twelve different languages,
(26:42):
so kids can log on and learn. Soon they will
be able to how to read and be read to
in that language. The Little Apple Tree. Wow, Yeah, it's
really really fun.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And I and the.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Second I gotta get on that, you know it.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I'll send you, guys a link year old.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
I'm all about trying to find books and especially I
really want her to learn different languages and stuff.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Oh man, Okay, so you guys have my email, yes,
and just I'll send you.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
I'll go buy wherever, wherever you're selling it, I will
go buy it.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Absolutely. That sounds amazing. Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
My daughter's a little too old.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
So how old is she?
Speaker 5 (27:19):
How many months old is she?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
My daughter's thirty four, so she's a little a little
that's like my son too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So I guess one of the things I would say
is because you're you, I know, you say you're shy
and you don't like to you know, even though you
are a performer, you can tell at heart and looking
for that next thing. One of the things that I
did when I hit that spot in my career is
the connection directly to the fans is amazing. So if
you ever have a chance to do a convention, you should.
(27:50):
That's what I would say, is you should. I think
the people would love to meet you. You get you'll
hear some it's like me fan gushing going, oh my god,
north Shore, It's that times one thousand, and it's just
you have then a direct connection with the people that
you've impacted, and it's pretty wonderful.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
So I think you'd like it and be great.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I adore fans, I mean honestly, you especially when you
get this far along, this far away from you know,
because the last thing major thing I did was the
Fosters and Pretty Little Liars, which is you know there
that's a pretty young, youngish crowd and it was kind
of like pll fever. But when you get years away
from things that you've already done, the people who stick
(28:30):
it out as your fans usually stick it out because
there was a heart connection and that becomes a really
cool thing. And so I've I've really been just kind
of waiting until I knew what I wanted to share
with everybody. So I'm terrible on social media and all
of that right now. But the book is I'm just
(28:50):
now starting to upload it. I've met with the Chalktan Nation,
and I'll be meeting with Cherokee and the Chicka Sauce
about implementing it in their languages in their Wow. Yeah,
it's really I just it's I love it so much.
And then there's my second book is Confessions of a
Serial Mononamous, and that's a journey of the Feminine Rising.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
And that's the journey that the first year of the
journey that I took.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Wow, left, that's amazing, all right.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So being as removed as you are from it now
and being more introspective, if you got a chance to
meet yourself starting out in the industry, what would you
tell yourself?
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Light up, it's all okay, yeah, enjoy yourself more. I
mean I was so shy that I was just like,
it was way easier for me to hide in excellence.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yeah, that was it was just a way easier place
for me to be.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
You know, I enjoyed a lot more now I'm I'm shy,
but I'm way more comfortable.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
With myself now, so it's okay.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, I'm I'm a lot more comfortable doing these things now.
But back then it was just like, well you have
to be on point, did you you know, It's just
I would be.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
I mean, I feel a lot of that is on
the the industry in general, but music, the music world
is is absolutely very demanding, you know, And so I
think that that definitely makes sense because you do get this.
You know, if you're not perfect, then you're wasting time,
everyone's time and money.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
You know.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, definitely, And the culture is very different now to
just with all the with all the social media.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Holy smokes, it's like instant painful.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Industry is absolutely different.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
If there was going to be a Tower of Terror too,
where do you think, what do you think your character
would be doing and would you be interested in doing it?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Of course I would be interested in doing it because
it was fun. Like that's my that's my rule now,
Like people ask me all the time, would you ever
want to go back to the industry. No, I don't
want to go in the way that I was in.
But if something fun or something meaningful shows up, then
I'll pay attention to it.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, it's all about the heart for me. So what
role would I play? Well, it depends on if it
was a sequel or a remake.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Oh interesting, okay, right, so if.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
It was a sequel, I don't know. Now you're asking
me to make up.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
A story on the spot.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I need wait right.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Now, plug it into AI.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
But there would definitely have to be something between me
and Steve. Yeah, yeah, you know that relationship. There would be.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
I can see that that I would say with the
first movie, was you know, I'm such a rom com
theme that I wish it had developed.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
More of Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
There was no obvious direction of what was going to
happen with the two of you, and I wanted something more,
so I think the second.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
One so forth they set it up where it almost
seemed like he was kidding on Melaura Harden's character a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
He was sitting on the pace. Yeah it's not a ghost.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
It was that that was odd.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I wonder if he invited her to his trailer also.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Like she'd seen a ghost.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
I can tell you that's how she had that shock
look almost oh oh, and then.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
When there is going to be a sequel to north Shore,
because I'm still holding out for that.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Actually, I mean I've spoken to Randall Kleiser. They've been
trying to get that off the ground for a long
time and.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
They stopping them.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I don't I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I really, I really don't know, because I I know
what the potential storylines are and uh and it has
to do with me in Turtle.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
You in Turtle?
Speaker 4 (32:42):
What?
Speaker 5 (32:43):
You in Turtle?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
What?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
No, I'm gonna say, my god, I love.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I don't know what to do now. I don't know
what to do. Everything's different. It was one thing and
now it's something else. Oh man, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Well, I mean I know that there's an entire generation
of people that would love to see that movie. And
one of the movies we watched on one of the
dcoms we watched, which is huge, is called Johnny Tsunami,
which is another big kind of surfing snowboarding movie. So
that whole generation would be growing up looking for something
like the north Shore. So as much fun as Tower
(33:19):
of Terror to this time, it's personal would.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Be north Shore to something with Turtle.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Oh, I would freak out something with turtle.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
You know, one of the coolest things about the North
Shore at this because I tend to not want to.
I didn't never liked going back to Fame reunions or
Walker reunions or any I'm just like, people get on
with your lives, right, But you start to really understand,
like I said, the people who stick it out, there's
a meaning to it that is so much deeper than
just people fawning over the way you looked in a movie.
(33:53):
And so when we had this twenty five year reunion,
the most beautiful aspect of it was that the little
boys like you who are fans, grew up and introduced
it to their children. Yeah, and they brought their kids
and like, this is a movie that they always watched together.
And so the little kids now are like, wow, it's
(34:15):
Kani and it's just it's something that the families bring
their They just bring their families around this movie and
they share it with each other. It's so Ohana, it's
really good.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
It was really amazing. Well, thank you so much for
joining us.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
You've in a way made everything better and in another
way made everything so much worse because now I don't
know what's gonna happen and I've got a free watch
or shore again.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Oh gosh, and thank.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
You for coming and talk to us about Tower of
Terror two, which was just, you know, a movie.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
We liked it.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
We were going through these dcoms in these wonderful world
of Disney's and we're just seeing one of the kind
of threads that goes through everything.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Is like you said, they're fun and they're.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Light, and it's especially in the world we live in now,
there's something nice about just going back to that type
of film. Absolutely, it's just fun and lighten your joy
yourself and Tartar was definitely one of them for us.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
So I was one of those I was one of
those people taking it too like I wanted it to
be so scary, and then I realized it was a
Disney movie, and it was about was this could be
my daughter's first kind of scary, creepy movie, you know,
and which is so great because again, it's not going
to be too scary. It's it's a little eerie, but
not too scary. So it's such a great family film.
(35:28):
And we love that you have such great memory shooting
it and now it.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Was it was an awesome experience and it's a fun
movie and I'm so glad that it plays every Halloween.
And you know what just hit me sitting here talking
to you guys. I had totally forgotten about this. The
very first video Rewatch show Disney ever did.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Was really Wow.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
And what I did this is when I was making records,
I would come in and introduce their cartoons really wow.
Somewhere on YouTube I ran across that somebody sent me
this thing, and I went, oh my, you know, you
forget that you've done these things.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
So the very first.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Little video thing that they did Rewatching there, it was
their cartoons.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
That's awesome, cool and once again a trailblazer.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I mean, fame and all.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I mean seriously, fame is one of those for anybody.
I'm a television junkie. And it changed the scope of TV.
I mean it really, It added an entirely new genre
of television.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
And it changed lives. I mean, this was the thing
I met.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I met a woman that was a friend of my sisters,
and she was from Hungry or something, and she looked
at me and she was just in shock, and she goes, no,
you don't understand. When we when the curtain fell, we
were under communism, we were only allowed, you know, to
watch certain things. And when the curtain fell, one of
the first things we saw was fame and MTV, And
(36:57):
so you can imagine she said, everything in my world
was gray. All the sound, all the television was controlled
by the Communist party, and when that went to you know,
fell apart. Suddenly we were watching people singing and dancing
and jump them all over cars?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (37:15):
And that's what's happening in the rest of the world.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Godzy, powerful things have pretty amazing legacy to have.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Yes, I was real blessed.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Thank you guys, you're amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
If we do a north Shore rewatch, will you come
back and talk?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yes, Oh, I'm going to make that happen.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
To make it happen.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Is there some way that north Shore was a secret
d com that I don't know about, and that way
we can put it on the show.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
We'll figure it out.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
We'll figure it out.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Maybe that's what it can be in the future.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Yeah, but what Turtle exactly?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I can't my mind's blown.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I can't even Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
It's my pleasure and we can't wait to see you again.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Take it easy.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I don't I don't. I don't know to say. I
don't want to say.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
In Turtle, I mean, are they together? Are they not together?
Are they still friends? Do their own company? My mind
is spinning right.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Now the amount that you made fun of me for
geeking out.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
About what over Brink?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
You cannot compare Brink and the north Shore, not comparing
the movies.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
But I did not think I would ever see you.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
You were like, you can't compare break in the north Shore.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
You were like episodes over Who cares about Tower Tear?
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Tower Tear? That was the one we were supposed to
talk about, right, Oh, that's right.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I had nia peoples here talking about north Shore.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I know I couldn't. I couldn't RenEEL you back.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
In was probably one of the hardest things I've had
to do on this podcast since we start.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
You're never gonna reel me back.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
There will be certain people that will come on this
podcast where I am out on an expedition, because have
you seen north Shore?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
It's magical.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
I haven't, but I'm telling you, I'm gonna need somebody
to tell me where to get it, because I've got.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
To know now. Heavin.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I don't get it's streams on the Angel Channel because
it's awesome. No, that was She was great and I
love that she's talking about Tower of Terror and I'm
so glad that she was able to join us.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I know we didn't talk too much Tower of Terror, but.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Well that's okay, But she is amazing.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
She She's like one of those people you meet quickly
and know she is a light in anyone that's close
to her.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Yeah, she's a light for them.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
She's also she's been around for a while. She doesn't
look like she's aged a day and is just has
story after story after story. I mean, it's just that's
one of those people where we I hope she's in
more movies coming up because I'd like to continue talking.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I know, she was awesome.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
I mean, she's so great and I I'm so excited
for whatever does draw her to her next question. She
just seems to her energy is just gonna pull things
to her and whatever she picks to be in, it's
going to be pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yea, And thank you Nia peoples for joining us as
we talked about recapped and really got to live the
magic that is the North Shore thank you again.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Pull it together, Bill, thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
And join us next time. Don't forget.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
You can subscribe to our channel and of course follow
us on Magical rewind Pod on the Instagram Machine and
we'll see you next time.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
She in Turtle, I don't
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