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Malik's Bookshelf, bringing a world together with books, culture and community. Hi,
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my name is Malik, your host of Malik's Bookshelf. I'm
revisiting the Bobby Shop Talks. That's right, The Bobby Shop
Talks one on one with brother Eleen, and there were
times when we were in sync and there are times
when we just had a disagreement and we share that. Well,
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at least I'm gonna share that on this podcast episode.
I'm not sure what title I'm gonna call, but we're
gonna revisit the Bobby Shop Talks because because it's organic
and it's just two black men having a conversation there,
later on someone came in and the one of their
hair cut and they participated and so especially at a
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time with me and was just at a you know,
a distance in terms of our perspective. Listen. I'm also
gonna feature on this episode a book that just came
out by a young man named A. K. A. E.
T but his name is Dr Eric To. I don't
think he liked to go by doc, but he got
his PhD. Eric Thomas. He he wrote a book called You,
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Oh You. So I'm gonna feature a book review on that,
and I think that's gonna be enough for this particular
episode because the barby Shop Talk instead of be chopping
it up, I'm bringing the old conversation alright, So stay
tuned for this episode fifty first episode of Malik's Bookshop.
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The Barber Shop Talks debate is about to begin, and
I gotta do a public service announcement. Why because I'm
gonna pre warn you right now this right here, it's
a debate, is heated, it's passionate, It got a lot
of energy, and hey, I'm just warning you up front
that it might not be something that you know because
sometimes we haven't a dinlog and then sometimes having a monologue. Right,
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So it is what it is. We brothers, We love
each other, but hey, we have a disagreement and I'm
about to air this Bobby Shock talking, so I hope
you enjoy it. I never know when you're gonna drop
bombs when I'm in the chair, So I got to
you know, put the recorder on them. I'm at the
Bobby shot again. I got to make sure I get
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it because my brother be dropping bombs. I gotta make sure.
I gotta make sure that it's recorded. Man for the audience,
because it's raw, it's real, it's community, it's social, it's culture.
Talk to me, man, finish your point. They want are
people to think that they're black, negro colors. All of
these name brands, non nationality, name brand that Congress came
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the brand does with to keep us trapped under a
what they call a corporate status system. So they can
have you're stitching over you to tell you what you
can do, so you rustle with the term black people
identify themselves as black people. Of course I do. Why
because black is an adjective, is not a noun according
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to the English system, the English system that operates under
that this country operates under. You know what I'm saying,
the language sy isn't that the courts operate under, which
is Latin. Don't more mean black? Huh, don't more mean black? No, sir,
more don't mean black. It doesn't mean Morocco. No, it
don't mean Morocco. The word the word more also goes
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artory back to the ancient one of the first empires
on this planet, back in Arabia, what they call a
so called Black civilization empire. But what does the medimate
they called the mur Uru Empire, and what does the
word mean. Well, in the ancient language the ms, it's
called the member and in me or move, and it's
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represented in ancient hieroglyphs as a wave of water, so
it represents motion. It represents the more inflowment of things.
That's why the letter M today the like if you
look at the ancient letter M, it's like it's like
a squiggly line that looks like, you know, a wave
of water, and then they shorten it to make it
look like how the M looks today now they are
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represents the sun raw and it represents the aile died.
The represent knowledge, so represent one who flows with knowledge
through his system. Here it was the title of the
high priest Batch in ancient Kimmit and back in ancient
Arabia amongst the Amuru Empire and an ancient commet. So
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this is all in the hieroglyphic or the world more.
It's been here for a long time. There's nothing New Okay,
But did not the people identify themselves being the original
people of the of the planet Earth, and didn't and
didn't they identify themselves as also being dark and being
coming out of triple triple darkness? And then and then
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what words did they use? This crime? Because words like berber,
kimm it, all of these words mean black. Na. The
word burber means a barbarian. That that's a Greek word
barbario that come from I mean, not a group. What
what I'm saying is that, okay, that the Africans didn't
call themselves burber. The Europeans call them Berber because they
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were black people had indigenous names, so they tried they
was named the names of the people of the tribal
named after the original the originator of that tribe. Right.
But when I'm trying to say what I'm what I'm
trying to get back, when we talked about the word Berber,
the Europeans referred to us as that barbarians savages. So
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but it also means that black, that black savage, that
black barbarians. Because no, no, but what I'm saying the
word berber means black, just like the word black. But
it also means, but it was just but it meant
the black. Yeah, yeah, because because because because, but hold on,
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the Romans. They didn't call the Romans, called the Europeans savages, barbarians.
They called the blacks in Africa savages, but they called
them burber because they were black. So the word black
was always meant to be part of that, not just
us being a savage, not us being but once again,
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but going back to the question you asked, what did
we call our sell you going by what somebody else
forced upon us? So you that's like, that's like what
you're doing right out. That's like you said, well, we're
niggers because they called us niggers. No, we never called
ourselves nigger. We adopted that today because that was fourth
upon it and then grain enough all these years, but
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that wasn't a black. Black folks always around ancient times
referred to themselves as black people. How do you know that?
I never historically, it's there are there are a lot
of indigenous words that described It's just like that. Did
we that the black man called the earth a name?
Like he named planets in the Solar system? Did the
black man name every animal on the planet? Did the
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black men know he was black? Why did he paint
pictures all in the pyramids as being black? If we
if they didn't identify themselves as black people, you gotta
describe your back to the point people called themselves. You
read any dictionary? Do you read any ancient literature? They
didn't call themselves by crayon colored? Brother? What's wrong with
being identified? Being black? The word? Brother? Back? Black? Black
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is black is not a color. Black is the ass
of life, brother, Black is the essence of all colors.
Black is not a cut is the root? Hold on, brother,
it's first, I'm trying to help you understand where I'm
coming from. But you're trying to explain me something after
you asked me a question. You can't even give me
the color of the universe. You can't give me the
color of the universe that we talk, move all the sons, move,
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all the stars out. What color is? But color? What
color is? What color? You? Brother? I'm a original man.
I'm black. I'm black, brother, add my child, I'm black
right now to tell you with a crayon, your skin
is brown. Brother, I'm the black man. I'm a black man. Brother. First,
why do you ever problem being identified as a black man.
But I just told you why why? I just told why? What? So, brother,
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you're talking about complexion, alright, the color of my complexion
as me about Alright, I'm talking about identity, not complexion,
brother Politan, and let's just call it because why brother,
man read, I don't have a problem. We are black people, brother,
and we live all over the planet. We all black people,
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and we live all over the planet. Brother, Black is
not black is not a color at all. We've been taught, brother,
and all the science of this world, all right, have
identified humans in a classification. Whether we agree with it
or not, it doesn't matter. The point is we gotta
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get understanding at the end of the day, how do
we identify with original people born in America, Britain, Um, Africa, Sweden, Germany, Brazil?
All right, how do we connect because we still have
all of the original people, all right? So when he
asked me, why don't identify black? I said, according to
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the English system, I said, I'm not talking about how
do we ate two people, beauty, I said, a quarter
to this system that we operate under. This system in
America operates under what it's called a called civil law.
Civil law is known as Roman law. Roman law is
based upon their religious trees that come out of the Vatican. Therefore,
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when you operate under Roman law and you're using words
like black and what have you under their system, that
puts you under a certain category for them to have
juristiction over you, to do this and to do that
to you, and to deprive you of your rights. That's
why I said, I don't use it. I said, I'm
not talking about how we view ourselves anciently religiously, how
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we said the stuff he's talking about. And I told
him I understand all of that. So so so what
why does he have a problem with identifying as a
black man about politics? So so when we're talking about politics,
I was saying, based upon how politics is used on
us and based upon the cast name system that suckers
came up with, like calling us African Americans and then
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grow black color all these years to change. So when
we adopted for ourselves, that allowed then if they to
enforce unjustice, let me take the flow, brothers, let me
take the floor. He holdify yourself as the black man,
that's the question, because as a national more and my
skin is not black. Can I answer now? So therefore
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they're having this in his name. People don't us Okay, okay, yellow, black, whatever.
People have names of their tribe. Where can I take
the flowers? How do you identify yourself? Again? I said
I'm a more and I say I'm a black man,
and I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why.
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I'm saying I'm a black man. And I'll tell you why, brother,
because I use that term to identify with every black
person on this planet. That's what makes us regardless of
where you're born on this planet. Just like Marcolm said,
if a chicken was born in the oven, don't mean
there's a biscuit. The fact that we're born all over
this planet, brother, we have to have something that we
can connect with each other. Not nationality, not continent, but black.
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And let me tell you something. Back in the sixties,
all right, it took a long time, and in all
these words are political. Calling us a negro was a
political word, but the word black ass political, and the
white men worked hard to move us away from identifying
as black and moves to African America because it's political.
The thing is, the white man didn't give us, didn't
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want us calling ourselves black. The white man was happy
us going around calling us the so called negro. That's
what in the sixties Elijah Muhammad worked hard, diligently and
long and sleepless nights. The movers away were identifying ourselves
being called negro, he said, the so called negro. When
he wrote the Message to the Black Man, it's called
the Message to the Black Man. Why because God told
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him to identify with ourselves as being black men and
not negros, and not more wars or not any other
name that we identified ourselves with in this world. He
wanted us to unite ourselves with seeing ourselves, so the
white men didn't give us the word black. He never
wanted to identify ourselves as being black. In fact, he
worked hard to give us away when the movement came
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out in the sixties and seven. I'm Black and I'm proud.
I'm Black and I'm proud all of that, you know,
all the music, all the culture, and we were talking
earlier about how music was. You know, it's different today,
but back then it was very uplifting motivation and it
was used in a way. James Brown made black and
I'm I'm Black and I'm proud, popular. These are the
things that and that that helped us to identify ourselves
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differently today. So why I love being called a black man,
It's because brother is the only thing it doesn't mean
by color, all right. Black is the root and essence
of all life. Life on this planet didn't start, brother
with on this planet. Life came from space. This planet
grew over treas and trains of years and life was
still here. Life was here before there was a son,
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before there was a moon. So light, triple triple darkness.
What do you believe you believe God created the earth
or that you believe the man revolved over revolution? Whether
you have both? If evolution means to evolve to change,
but then you also have creation, which is the power
to bring it to existence. All right, So we're a
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combination of both. What you created, you got to evolve.
We are. We came from space. We just life didn't
start on the planet Earth. Life didn't start when we
had a sun in the in the start. Life came
from space. It comes out of triple darkness. It comes
when you can form with a molecular water. Brother, six
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days and metatorical allegories is in fact you know this
Earth is older than six thousand years. People older than
six thousand years. I think that with all that getting,
you gotta get understanding. You know, when we study, You know,
we have to study to show ourselves approven. And what
happened is a lot of things we're taught. It's fair,
he tells brother, is not scientific. We gotta get back
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to the science and rooted things. If we want to
rule this world. We got to think mathematically and scientifically,
not emotionally. This whole conversation a lot had to do
with emotion. Everything he was saying and what I was
saying some of his emotion. But if we want to
get to, you know, the heart of what makes sense,
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That's why I said, what do you want to be called?
And why is that important? Because we was given a
term called the black man in order to help us
connect with each other because we're divided into tribes. And
to what the white men did the Anglo in the
Saxon in Britain, he united the tribe and then they
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conquered the world. So they went from tribal to national
to global. We gotta think bigger than way we're thinking,
and if we want to move forward, we can argue
later on about certain name, but we need a term
that's gonna unite us. She and I say, I'm not
black because of the color of my skin. I'm black
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because I'm the original people of the planet Earth. I'm
first my DNA, go back to the first life on
the planet, and we have nothing to do with the
color of my skin. That's why I said, but how
hot it is hot? So this argument was primarily based
on what as black men and we should call ourselves,
whether we should be black, Afro American, Negro. So you
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prefer to be recognized as a black man, absolutely, unapologetically.
I'm a black man, and that's why we persecuted in America.
That's why we're killed and and oppressed because with black people,
the original people not necessarily color of your skin, because
they are oppressed. You brother, if you if you was
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a white man on this planet, they come up against
this world. Brother, did go through all that, all that
negativity about the description or the definition of black and
uphold the standard that we all know that God created
a black man. Black people the first people are planning Earth.
All other races are nothing. But I just said that
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He created the man in the image of him. So
God must be black, absolutely, brother. You know, if if
you refer to God as an entity or life for him,
all right, then you referring to him as being a
black because all the descriptions of God in ancient times
referred to him as black. In Buddha he was black.
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In ancient Egypt, he was black. You know, all of
these cultures historically and anciently refer to God being black,
and the black man referred to himself as God. We
have gotten away from him when you talk about raw.
We're debating on what we should call ourselves. Are we black?
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Are we need row? Are we indigenous? Are we are
we Hebrew? Which? One hour? I always like to say,
I'm probably a God regardless what you want to call me.
Who wait, man, that was a debate, you know what,
And that's gonna be my title for this debate here
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at the Bobby Shop Talks. I'm calling it I Am
Black because this topic today was about identity and we
got into a spirited debate and sometimes we cut each
other off, but it was all in good taste. I
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hope you enjoy this debate at the Bobby Shop Talks.
But I think the perfect title for this podcast episode
is I am black. Hey, look, that's another side of malite.
Sometimes you know, you don't see and today, you know,
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I'm very passionate. I have a lot of energy, and
I have a strong belief in terms of identity, and
I'm very comfortable with being called black. And we had
a spirit of debate. He disagree with me, and he's
entitled to have his you know, disagreement. So hey, we
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had a debate in the body shop. That's all it
was about. After that, we embraced each other, hugged each other,
and we still brothers. But hey, I gotta agree to disagree.
You know, I'm very comfortable with being identified as a
black man, you know, in the America, and I think
that that's a word that's unifying and very important for
us to see ourselves not based on some crown color,
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but based on the essence and root of life itself,
as the mother and fathers of humanity. So that's my
take on this. I hope you enjoyed it. You Oh You.
That's gonna be my book review, You Oh You by
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Eric Thomas. Well, I should say pH d Eric Thomas. Listen,
he's a part coach, part preacher, all grind is high energy.
He's one of the world's best known motivational speakers. Listen,
this guy et. When I first heard him speak, I said,
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this guy has to be anointed by God, because you don't.
You're not able to have that impact on the soul
of people unless you are blessed with that kind of gift.
Now did he know he had that gift. No, he
had discovered it when he worked all day and all
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night in his basement, in his you know, his room,
working in perfecting oh little subtitles and motivation your old
segments for you too. But he did it with a passion.
He did it with high energy. This guy turned his
life around like many of us. You know, we bounce
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off wall still we find our way. You know, he
had to had to find his way. He's been invited
to five fortune companies. He's been you know, sought out
all over the world for motivation. The guy is gifted
in terms, but I believe he believes what he's saying.
That's the key, and he comes off with passion anyway.
His new boot. You owe you in night, Your Power,
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your purpose, and your Weight by Eric Thomas pH D. Listen,
let me tell you something about this book. You owe
it to yourself to recognize your gifts, your power, and
your place in this world, no matter your story or
your struggle. And this everybody got a story. Everybody gotta struggle,
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and unless you tell it, it won't be told. Unless
you share it, it won't be heard. So listen. Everyone
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Because you owe you. If you feel like success is
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for others, that only certain people get to have their
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he wishes someone had given him when he was a teenager, lost, homeless,
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failing in school, and dealing with the challenges of being
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All right, I'm gonna feel at least one question from
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real Malik Mohammed at gmail dot com. That's right, Real
Malik Mohammed gmail dot com. So email me a question
and I'll try to ask it on my podcast. Well,
this question is Hi. My name is John Black. I
have been listening to your podcast for the last three months.
You have such a wide range of topics every week
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I can expect a unique and original topic. How do
you choose your topics? That's an accellent question, and there's
no one single way I can answer that, because it
comes from the gut. Sometimes I just get inspiration by
being at a place out with my family or at
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an event, or I get an idea from someone walking
into the store. None of this is prescript I personally
like the organic topics that just come just because of
the moment. I find that more you know, original, and
it just comes across as being you know, real and
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so um, there's like I said, there's no one way.
I um, you know, look for ideas all the time
and usually nothing happens. But when I'm not looking, they
come and you know, like this last episode, this episode
is about I am black? Well how did that happen?
I got in at debate and winning at the Bobby
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Shop and he had a problem with my friend had
a problem would have been down the fire with being black. Hey,
it's further two a debate. Well, that's how it happens,
you know. I just you know, if nothing is primarily
pre pre planned. If I'm doing a book event at
the store, I'm interviewing you on the spot. You know.
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That's how I got Spike Lee, Terry Crews, garcel Um,
who else tabled the Brown, Kevin Fredericks Um and his
wife and many others. It's all on the spot. Uh.
But like I said, most of this is not scripted.
I don't write out questions. Um, it's just original and
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it's real, and that's how I come up with my topics.
And I hope you continue to listen and tell your
friendly and friends to tune in to Malik's folk show
bringing a World together with books, culture and community. Since
I answered that question in a timely matter, let's move
on to one more. My name is Sylvia Johnson. Your
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last episode on fasting was very interesting. I am not
sure I agree with everything, but certainly something's made good
sense and relatable. You mentioned eliminating meals. Well, can you
explain more in depth about eliminating meals and how it
affects your aging? This is really a subject matter for
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my last guests, Walter Malik de Gene, but he's not
here answer, so I'm gonna do my best. Let Hey, Hey,
the reason why eliminating meals help you in terms of
health while eyes in the aging process is because all
food that we eat has waste. Every time you eat something,
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your body has to eliminate something. Every time you eat anything,
whether it's an apple, a banana, I mean those are
natural and healthy, but yet you have to eliminate something
out of your body, and that is waste, and that
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waste your body cannot use. Your body only wants nutrients
so that it can do it. What it's supposed to
do in terms of you know, repairing you and growing
and so forth. But anything that's toxic, the body wants
to eliminate. So when you're eating food, understand you also
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eating partison to the body. You cannot eat an apple
without posing in the body and to have and waste,
so that waste in your body is toxic to your
body and it and it affects your body in a
way that it causes aging. Now, my understanding is that
the quickest way to age is to eat meat. Eating
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flat A lot of people all y'all you know we
was born to eat meat. Well, it's a lot of
scientists just disagree with you. Based upon our antm anonomy
and the science of today and the technology of the
day is selling in all arguments. And as a result,
it has been scientifically proved that human beings are not
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animal eaters and that we can get protein based upon
the way our intesters are set up through pants beings
and and and natural things, not animals, but animals, and
the waste in the toxicity in the blood, you know,
because when you eat an animal and they kill it,
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you can you you digesting its emotions as well. It's
in the blood. But anyway, apparently eating meat is the
fastest way to cause your selves to age. Now, there's
a lot of scientists out here in a lot of books. Hey,
all you gotta do is just pick up one. But
all I'm doing is just telling you that, Hey, everything
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that we eat has waste, and so when you eat less,
then you have less cosicity going into what your body,
so the cells are not as damaged and you're able
to stress your seals and as a result, aging is
slow dramatically by eating less. So that's how the best
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way to stress your seals is not just working out, running,
lifting weight, but but it's what's starving it all right,
because that's one of the number one urges that we have, hunger.
So that's all I can say about that. Thank you
for your question. Now, Hey, if you got a question,
shit email Real Malik Mohammed at gmail dot com. Real
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Malik Mohammed at gmail dot com. Thank you. Thanks for
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