May 8, 2023 • 31 mins
Malik hosted a book signing event in Beverly Hills with Debra Lee, former CEO of BET!
From book store owner to published author…“The Heart of a Black Man- Stories of Triumph and Resilience” is out featuring Malik himself! Get a preview here!
Also, Malik catches us with Kei’Renee, author of Get Familiar With Failure: Helping First Generation Entrepreneurs Build Their Foundation for Success
And it’s Malik and April’s 17th wedding anniversary!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My League Books has all the knowledge you want. My
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
The whole wild world one of read My League Books.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to Malik's BOOKSHEF Bringing a world together
with books, culture and community. Hi, my name is Malik,
your host of Malik's Bookshef. This is episode sixty eight.
I got a couple of interviews lined up. I was
able to host de be Leave book signing event out
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in a mansion up on top of Beverly Hills on
with a stellar view.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Amazing view.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
View was like overlooking all sage, just like you was
in the clouds and you was up in heaven. But
we hosted deb Lee folks signing event at this glorious
home in Beverly Hills. And let me tell you, it
was Who's who They showed up at the event. It
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was a lot of influential people in the entertainment world,
in the news world. Doubly has a stellar career. She
was CEO of BT for many years. She was instrumental
and changing BT's programming, which is primarily at that time
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consisted of only music videos primarily and I don't know
how that was sustainable. I know back in the day,
I was like, man, they don't have anything else Black
Entertainment Network or television Black Black Entertainment TV to show
us something different than just a music video. So she
was instrumental in changing the content on BT from playing
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all these music videos into bringing in dramas, comedy, and
unapologetically black programming that speaks to our culture, our history,
and our representation.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So kudos to Double Lee.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Now I probably should have labed with this one because
this is the seventeenth year anniversary of Malik in April
this week on May sixth. Every year we try to
be creative and find new in different ways to celebrate
our anniversary.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Sometimes we go out of.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Town, sometimes we do something in town. But what we're
gonna do is we gonna go back to.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It all begin.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
We're gonna go back and celebrate on Saturday where we
got married. It's a hotel called the Marina del Rey Hotel.
I'm gonna have the room decorated by Noni. You can
find her on Naughty by Noni on Instagram. She's gonna
decorate the room. She's gonna put pictures all around and
go back to Memory Lane, all the different anniversaries we
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didn had.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I sent her all the pictures.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I'm also going to have the room catered by Chef
Kon Houston. I believe that's her Instagram, and she's going
to curate an Asian menu. And my wife is training.
She's in the fitness She got a competition coming up
in June, so I have to be concerned about her diet.
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So it's all gonna be a big old surprise. She
doesn't know that I'm gonna decorate the room. She just
thinks we're going back to it all begins seventeen years
ago before they remodeled this hotel. It's beautiful, it's overlooking
the pool and the marina, and we're gonna go stay there.
Hasn't been seventeen years since we've been back at this
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hotel when we walked down the aisle seventeen years ago,
So we're gonna go back there and just walk down
Memory Lane and have a good time to eat some
Asian food, enjoy the decorated candlelit room. And so we're
looking forward to that because it is our anniversary.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So hey, email me DM me give me.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
A shout out for our anniversary Also, I got to
introduce you to the book.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
The book just came out, The Heart of a Black Man.
That's right.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Co author Malik Muhammad is featured in that book. I
have a chapter. It's an anthology of thirty black men
from all over the country, and I wrote a chapter
call from.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Devastation to Elevation. And I am so.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Excited to announce to the world that I'm now a
published author along with twenty nine other brothers. And I'm
greatly excited to announce this book to the world, The
Heart of a Black Man, Stories of Triumph and Resilience. Listen,
right now, we're trying to be the Amazon number one bestseller.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't usually push Amazon.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I pushmlitue books dot Com, you know, But right now,
in unity, I'm taking one for the team. I need
anybody that love our mission, love what we're doing, supporting
Elikue Books, supporting Malik, and they.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Go and buy on Amazon The Heart of a Black Man. Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Now, it was compiled by a lovely young lady named
to Lisha Barry, and she's done these wonderful anthologies with women,
but now she dropped into the realm to speak on
the resilience and Trump for me in this book The
Heart of a Black Man.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm just so excited to be part of this. My
chapter from Devastation to Elevation.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Now I'm going to read in part of this segment,
I'm going to read a affirmation that I wrote this
in there. At the time I wrote it, I didn't
even know I was writing affirmations, but it ended up
being that. And listen, I didn't even think that. When
I was writing the book, I had it in order.
And then I sat down and read it to April,
and she said, you know, that book is already written
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in the order that didn't need to be. I was like,
what I said, this, Joe is, I was just occasionally
writing this when I get a free moment, you know,
write my thoughts down and so forth.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I opened up my reveal some things.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
About myself in this book, some things you know that
I wanted to share and open up and make myself vulnerable.
So you got to read the book. You gotta read
my part at least, you know, and not that long.
It's an anthology. I put a lot in a little
maybe that little will growing too. My own book. You're
the one Day of feature book based upon this anthology
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that I wrote.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But hey, I'm going to read this part and it's
called Elevator. So I'm gonna read that.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
As part of this segment later on, but I want
to continue to do my introduction for what you can
expect on this episode and so, and what you can.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Expect is Malik Mohamed to read part of his book
The Heart of a Black Man, And I hope you
enjoy that because I opened up and make myself vulnerable,
So enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
It's called Elevators. I'm gonna read that. But moving on,
I'm going to introduce you to a lovely young lady
that I was able to interview at Malik book.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We meet together with fire.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
We got a lot of energy and we in the
interview is just fun and refreshing. And the author name
is kron Nate and she wrote a book called Get
Familiar with Failure to Succeed that we break it all
down because the young lady has been repping and designing
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and planning and in corporate America parties and events for
major companies.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
And she offered us for young and new and upcoming
arthor of news.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So she you know, reveals in detail, you know, her
inspiration and then onto this book.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So that's coming on this episode, and.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
So hey, all I need y'all to do is listen
to this episode because it has featured Malite, my comedic
co author of the Heart of a Black Man, Stories
of Triumph and Resilience enjoy.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
And they couldn't afford outside council and at a certain
point five Johnson asked me to come over and.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Start to leading the party. And that's how I got
to beg.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Once I got there, I started doing more business things
and learned that I liked business more than I did law.
Eventually became COO and CEO, and you know, as they say,
the rest is history. But it was an amazing.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Career and that's what I wanted to write about.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
You know, I think my story is one of resilience
and the term nation. I wasn't sure too early what
I was determined about.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But I was determined to do something and.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
To give back.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
And so for me, be Et provided that Abue, you know,
a place where I could, when I got to a
point of being on the business side, focus on programming
and make high quality, authentic.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
Programming for the black community.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Turn you know, bet in a different direction when I
took over the network of sixty music videos and by
the time I left, we didn't have any music videos,
but we had a lot of original programming. And you know,
that was my vision when I became CEO. And I
always say, when you're CEO, oh, no one asked you
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what your vision is, just what the CEO tells you
to do. But when you become CEO, then they start
asking you what your vision is and that vision and
I'm so proud of.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
What we built at EET. The young people I was
able to hire and.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Give opportunities that they wouldn't have other places and allow
them to stretch. Because you know, if I was looking
for a CFO, I couldn't say I wanted CFO from
another media company.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Because there were no they weren't given those kind of opportunities.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
So instead, you know, I might hire a treasurer and
let them take the leap.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
And that's really what Bob Johnson did for me.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
I mean, I was a six year associated when he
hired me, so it was a leap for me to
become general counsels. So, you know, I wanted to tell
that story. I also wanted to tell the challenges I had,
because I really.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Think that's even more important for.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Young people to know you can be successful in spite
of challenges. And I think because of my position, and
you know, the glamorous side of being CEO and walking
out on the BT Awards stage once a year and
my favorite designer, you know, people think it was really glamorous,
but there was a lot of hard work behind it,
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a lot of sacrifice, you know. I was also I
had two children, I was married twice, divorced twice. And
I know one story I particularly.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Wanted to tell was in between college and law school,
I got pregnant.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
And with someone I wasn't really involved with, so there
was no long term relationship there. And I had an abortion,
and that was something I never talked about publicly, and
with things and things the way they were in that year,
I could go to New York and get an abortion.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
I had that right.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
And I wanted to go to Harvard Law School and
that was my decision, and.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
That's what I wanted to do with.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
My body, and that's what I did, and I did it.
And I showed up up for day one law school
and never looked back. And the thing that scares me
about the political side of that, and what's happening now
is that our young women don't have that opportunity or
losing in the process of losing that opportunity. So I
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really wanted to tell that story. And you know, I
tell the story of having a miscarriage and not being
able to grieve about that, and you know, showing up
in New York at business meetings right after I had
my first child and have to pump milk and throw
it down the toilet because I shouldn't have been there
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in the first place.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
But you know, those are the challenges we have as women.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Also tell the story that Bob Johnson and I had
a personal relationship and that wasn't something I planned, and
it's a relationship that was good for a while and
then it turned abuse to then it turned into sexual
harassment as my job was tied in uh to the relationship,
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and I wanted young women to hear that story. You know,
we heard so many stories during Me Too and times up,
but they're always I think a bit exaggerated, you know,
in terms of guys.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
Coming to the door and roads and you.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Know, just just that extreme side of me too. And
I knew my story was a little different. Still, you know,
it didn't have a great envy, but.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
I wanted to tell it, and so you know, there
are other things that deal with in the book. I
don't want to spoil it.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
I think you know people with the response has been great.
The response been great for women and men, which I
really appreciate.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
And a lot of some of you tonight have told
me you couldn't put the book down, and you know,
I really poured my heart into it.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
And you know, someone told me once, if.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
The Lion doesn't tell the story, the hunter will. I
wanted to tell my own story in my own way.
It's funny I didn't let other than my daughter, who
I let you one or two chapters. I didn't let
anybody else read it except the proof readers and editors.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
But I didn't want to.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
Have an influence in any way. I just wanted to
tell And so I'm so glad it's out and I
really appreciate you all coming out tonight and supporting me.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
And I hope you know some of you have told me.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
You enjoyed the book, and for those of you who
haven't read it, I hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
And I think the reason back to the beginning question.
The reason I wrote.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
It is wanted to help the generation come in and
I wanted them to know if I can do it,
you can do it, and you should dream big. I
never thought i'd d CEO of a major media company.
That's not what I started out to do, but that's
what I accomplished, and I wanted, you know, those who
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come behind me to know about.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
So with that, what are the five keys to success?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Since you since why you ever stell a career?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
It was the five keys that particularly to the young
girls and young.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Okay, yeah, three. Be passionate about what you're doing. We
all work so hard. If you're not passionate about it,
you know, it's.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
A waste of time. Whether it's a cause, whether it's
a company, whatever, be passionate about it.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Get educated.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
My dad was a big believer in getting the best
education you can.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
And can be going to HBCU State College, I believe,
or whatever it was, study home.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
And then I would say, be true to your valuist.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
You know, in your work and.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
In your personal and we all you know, we only
know what our own values are. But you know you
have to be honest to yourself and you know play
honest to your family.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
But keep to your values.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
That's one thing.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
We found a BET that when we were doing mostly videos,
a lot of employees were embarrassed about the programming and
they were scared to go to the family and then
and say, I work at BET.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
And you know, and videos started out.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Being nutha Frankler, you work, wind and fire, but they
turned into the Lil Wayne and you pull a lot
of other people.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
But anyway, be true to your values. And I'm sure
there's seven others. If you want to do those three.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
You're well on your way.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I got a guess with me right here at Malik Books.
You know how we do it. We don't script, We.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
Be organic and we have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
She's an independent author and she's a new author, and
I have a book right here in the store signed
as a matter of fact, so let me introduce you
to kay Renee, who wrote the book.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Get familiar with failure to Succeed.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Now we're gonna die right into it right now, So welcome.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
You have a crazy.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
TV yet Oh my god, Well, thank you for the compliment.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Well, Hey, my audience on Malik's bookshelf, want to know
all about this book because it's a book about business,
aren't you knew it?
Speaker 8 (18:00):
And it's guiding the young and the.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Youth the oh to not fail but to succeed in business.
Don't get twisted on the title get familiar with fair First,
I thought you did.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
Yeh, I thought, I said, get familiar with failure. Well,
that's something we should.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Not be familiar with.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Out, I want to get familiar with succeed.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
But tell us why you came up with this type.
Speaker 10 (18:23):
I wanted it to do just that, Like I wanted
it to make you challenge the word failure, like, oh
my god, I don't want to get familiar with selling.
But it's like, no, we have to kind of help
people reprogram the meaning of what failure is in business,
and failure is not something bad, like you know, failure
is you should be leveraging it as a catalyst. And
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I feel like failure is only bad if you don't
want to open up your eyes to the lessons, to
the things that you need to be paying attention to
and then correcting.
Speaker 9 (18:52):
Those things and going after it again.
Speaker 10 (18:54):
You know, So we gotta like we gotta like reprogram
ourselves to be comfortable with the thought that I'm gonna
put this out and it could fail.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
It might fail, but that's not the end goal. That's
where I learning.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Ugh, Okay, okay, well I'm feeling that, and I think
you absolutely correct because every failure I han had allowed
me to succeed. Every loss I don't had allowed me
to win because I got better, I got more determined.
I learned from my mistakes. I learned from my failures.
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And I think that's what you're saying. We're born in
complete to go into completion with. So it's gonna take
sometimes feeling or not succeeding.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
In order to learn how to win it and how
to succeed.
Speaker 10 (19:42):
And skin to go into the next battlefield, like you know,
like you need you need some bumps, you need some bruises.
There's there's no reason for you to be in the
in the game if you ain't even got no bumps,
no bruises. We're not looking at like, you know, absolutely
respecting the person that like, oh you're too clean.
Speaker 9 (20:02):
No, no, no, you got to get out of here.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
I can't trust.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
You, you know what. I liking that what you just
said to the analogy. When I was when we all
was a child learning how to walk. We felt a
whole lot, but we got up and we perfected out
of walk.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I got tired of falling and I started.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
Standing walking, and I don't fall as much.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So I liking that analogy to what you what you're saying, right,
we do gotta get thick skin, because a lot of
us go into business and the minute we hit a
road bump, we think about quitting and getting out of
the game and stop going in a different court.
Speaker 8 (20:34):
I know, me included, I've been there.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I doubted myself, you know, even in my journey with
Malik books and so hitting that thick skin help will
help you overcome when you get those thoughts, because we
all got them.
Speaker 8 (20:48):
Two thoughts in our minds.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
How and the load that which it wants to motivate you,
and that which wants to talk you out of what
you're trying to do.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
So speak on that.
Speaker 10 (20:59):
I mean, I feel like I and even in my
own journey, I've had to battle with that with myself.
It's like when I first first first started out, which
I do talk about in the book, I was homeless
and broke producing events teaching entrepreneurship, and people didn't even
know that like I was producing these events and trying
to be the very last person to leave because I
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didn't want people to know that I didn't even.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
Know where I was gonna go that night, you know.
Speaker 10 (21:24):
But it was like and I used to discourage me,
and one of my friends used to always be like
he d stop putting on these events teaching people's business
when you're broke, and I just be like, no, but
God keeps telling me to do it. So I don't know,
I'm gonna just keep doing it cause like, yeah, you know,
I'm not I'm not making no money. I don't know
how to I'm not figuring out why I'm out, like
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you know, like I don't know, like I just I
just had to keep going how to keep going.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
Cause it's like even though.
Speaker 10 (21:51):
I felt like I was failing, because it's like I'm
putting on these events, I'm still walking away with nothing.
I'm putting on these events, I'm still walking away with nothing,
and it's like, you know what, it's okay, like one
of these days, I'm gonna put this on and I'm
gonna walk away with something. I don't know when, when when,
but but something's gonna come back to me.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
You know that takes relief, That takes.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
More than just like you got to know you want
to see and you faking it until you make it.
You have sometimes you gotta put on that different look,
that different face, that different style.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I mean, dressed too impressive even if.
Speaker 10 (22:24):
You bro, I think like people back then, if you
looked at like what my hair looked like back then,
how dry it was. I feel like if you really
paid attention, you knew I didn't have no mooddy because
my hair was crisp, then it's all boys.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, yeah, progress, Yeah, it's so dry.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I mean you opened up and just made yourself vulnerable
telling your story. And that's wonderful because you know, we
can look at success and it looks great, but it's
a backstory. You just gave your backstory. You just revealed
to Malice Bookshelf. I was homeless, bro, and yet I
found a way to step up into my beliefs and
my glory and my success.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Now now you're doing now my understandings.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
You you're putting on events for name some of.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
Them corporate jobs. Don't Fortune five hundred talk to them.
Speaker 10 (23:20):
You know, you know essential water water we work, you know,
we just in these street bam.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
You know, look at that, Look at that, because your
grind was real, it was one hundred. You believe in
yourself and yet boom, you walked in and got contracts
with major corporations due event planning for them. And so
that's that's amazing because like I said, you know, the
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mind is a terrible thing to weigh, and you will
talk yourself out of success or.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
No glory if you let it. Because we ain't born.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
With all the skills, and so you know, you had
to find the skills in order to You've been in
the game teaching the things that you have in your
book for about seven years now, right, Yeah, talk about that.
Speaker 10 (24:11):
Well, Like for me, it's like I'm first generation, you know,
so I feel like I wanted to create and I've
always been creating for that particular audience because first generation
entrepreneurs are a vulnerable audience.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
You know, they don't.
Speaker 10 (24:26):
Have sometimes friends or family to confide in about what
they're doing, you know, because they not even that they
don't want to be there for them, They don't know
how to be there for you. And I think that's
one thing like first generation entrepreneurs, which I talk about,
need to understand is that don't put so much pressure
on other people to cheer you on and to hype
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you up. Do not put so much pressure on your
family to understand because at the end of the day,
you have to remember, they don't have the same mindset
as you. So it's your job to educate them, to
teach them. They're not gonna be here to teach you you,
you know, so you need to get a circle of
other first generational entrepreneurs to compie in.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
You know, absolutely, And what would you say, Uh, why
should people want to read your book?
Speaker 8 (25:12):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (25:14):
You should definitely want to read this book.
Speaker 10 (25:16):
If you want to be motivated, if you want to
get access to the tools, to the resources, if you
want to be out here pitching your way to success.
Everything that you need to do that is in here.
If you want to make sure that you building a
house and your foundation is set, you want to get
this book because sometimes we go into business and you
don't even know how to send an email. You don't
even know how to get someone to respond to your email.
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But this book is going to help you do that.
Like you don't even know how to put a pitch
deck together. But this book is going to help you
do that.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
Yes, you know, you'll know how to live in your confidence.
Speaker 8 (25:48):
Yes you know, yes book, yes you do that. Yes
we all have to pay it forward. We all have to.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
And I'm saying, like I know, this information in this
book is a good content. Good content, let me tell
you in good information, because I know, I meet a
lot of people, and they I get bone rash a lot,
and I get calls a lot, you know, to hosted
books or some proposition or whatever to clear an event
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or so forth, and it's a lot of noise.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
And I tell all all.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
The time, you gotta find a way to get my
attention because I got a lot of things going on.
Speaker 8 (26:26):
I still gotta do marketing. I still got to do
a county, I still got to order books. I got
a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
So it's not that I'm busy, and so I only
got so many hours in the day and so much
time to do certain tasks. And you're bone weshed up
in here. You know what I'm saying, What time you closed,
I'm coming, I'm coming. I got a book, I said, Okay,
I happened to be here when you came in, and I.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
Knew you was gonna be here when you was full up,
So that they got was.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
A strategic strategic and and and look she kid knock
me up in here and had me we up here
building for.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
About an hour.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
That's how robust the conversation was and how enlightened was
and we were helping each other in the different industries
that we might be in. There was a common denominator
and we begin to talk about, you know, things that
could elevate both of us. And so it was intriguing
and refreshing. And that's how you gotta be. Her elevator
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pitch was a one. So I know it's some good
information in this book because she broke through. And if
you're trying to break through, and if you're trying to
learn how to succeed, and if you stop and if
you don't want to fail, let me tell you something,
you better come.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
Get a book that you can relate to.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Get familiar with failure to succeed.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
Knee.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
Now, I'm definitely using that, y'all.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
You heard it, You heard it now more last question.
You know, let my.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Audience at police bookshelf know three things that there is
a takeaway that they can use right now today in
this book for me and like in this book okay.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
You know what I'm saying or in general, but you.
Speaker 8 (28:22):
Know, okay.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
Three takeaways that you could leverage right now today. One,
make sure that you're setting your intentions every single morning.
Setting intentions is literally gonna help you propel your day.
Is gonna help you like address everything through those intentions. Two,
make sure that you are giving gratitude to God for
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waking you up every day. I think that's something that
you can definitely do today, right now, every single day.
And last, if you are looking to pitch yourself, the
thing that you could do right now is you can
start practicing in the mirror everything a day, talking to yourself,
asking yourself what the what you want to gain from
the conversation, who you are, why you're there, and then
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how you're gonna.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
Leave that person.
Speaker 9 (29:10):
Practice that in the mirror every single day.
Speaker 10 (29:12):
Get it down to like fifteen to twenty seconds, and
you gotta elevate a bitch.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Bingo found book right here at Malie Books. And thank you,
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Speaker 8 (29:28):
This was fresh and and lightning. I'm sure my audist
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E bgo all right right here at Malie Books.
Speaker 8 (29:57):
The Heart of a Black Man just release.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It's on Amazon. Needs you to help me make a
best seller. I'm gonna read a section in here called Elevated.
Malik Muhammad, co author of.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
The Heart of a Black Man.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
And Spine Stories of Triumph and Resilience. My chapter is
called From Devastation to Elevation, and the section I'm gonna
read is called Elevated. I am elevated because my eyes
are open now. I'm elevated because I help my community.
I am elevated because I know how to love myself.
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I am elevated because my mind, body and spirit have
been awaken. I am elevated because I work for myself.
I am elevated because I am great. I am elevated
because I am a father and husband. I am elevated
because I know how to be a man. I am
elevated because I have survived the pandemic.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
I am elevated because the community supports my mission.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I am elevated because I understand the many of unity.
I am elevated because I know my limitations. I am
elevated because I am here and now. And I'm elevated because.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
I have you.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Thanks for listening to Malik's Bookshelf, where topics on the
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
The whole wild world one of read My League Books.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to Malik's BOOKSHEF Bringing a world together
with books, culture and community. Hi, my name is Malik,
your host of Malik's Bookshef. This is episode sixty eight.
I got a couple of interviews lined up. I was
able to host de be Leave book signing event out
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in a mansion up on top of Beverly Hills on
with a stellar view.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Amazing view.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
View was like overlooking all sage, just like you was
in the clouds and you was up in heaven. But
we hosted deb Lee folks signing event at this glorious
home in Beverly Hills. And let me tell you, it
was Who's who They showed up at the event. It
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was a lot of influential people in the entertainment world,
in the news world. Doubly has a stellar career. She
was CEO of BT for many years. She was instrumental
and changing BT's programming, which is primarily at that time
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consisted of only music videos primarily and I don't know
how that was sustainable. I know back in the day,
I was like, man, they don't have anything else Black
Entertainment Network or television Black Black Entertainment TV to show
us something different than just a music video. So she
was instrumental in changing the content on BT from playing
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all these music videos into bringing in dramas, comedy, and
unapologetically black programming that speaks to our culture, our history,
and our representation.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So kudos to Double Lee.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Now I probably should have labed with this one because
this is the seventeenth year anniversary of Malik in April
this week on May sixth. Every year we try to
be creative and find new in different ways to celebrate
our anniversary.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Sometimes we go out of.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Town, sometimes we do something in town. But what we're
gonna do is we gonna go back to.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It all begin.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
We're gonna go back and celebrate on Saturday where we
got married. It's a hotel called the Marina del Rey Hotel.
I'm gonna have the room decorated by Noni. You can
find her on Naughty by Noni on Instagram. She's gonna
decorate the room. She's gonna put pictures all around and
go back to Memory Lane, all the different anniversaries we
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didn had.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I sent her all the pictures.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I'm also going to have the room catered by Chef
Kon Houston. I believe that's her Instagram, and she's going
to curate an Asian menu. And my wife is training.
She's in the fitness She got a competition coming up
in June, so I have to be concerned about her diet.
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So it's all gonna be a big old surprise. She
doesn't know that I'm gonna decorate the room. She just
thinks we're going back to it all begins seventeen years
ago before they remodeled this hotel. It's beautiful, it's overlooking
the pool and the marina, and we're gonna go stay there.
Hasn't been seventeen years since we've been back at this
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hotel when we walked down the aisle seventeen years ago,
So we're gonna go back there and just walk down
Memory Lane and have a good time to eat some
Asian food, enjoy the decorated candlelit room. And so we're
looking forward to that because it is our anniversary.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So hey, email me DM me give me.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
A shout out for our anniversary Also, I got to
introduce you to the book.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
The book just came out, The Heart of a Black Man.
That's right.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Co author Malik Muhammad is featured in that book. I
have a chapter. It's an anthology of thirty black men
from all over the country, and I wrote a chapter
call from.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Devastation to Elevation. And I am so.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Excited to announce to the world that I'm now a
published author along with twenty nine other brothers. And I'm
greatly excited to announce this book to the world, The
Heart of a Black Man, Stories of Triumph and Resilience. Listen,
right now, we're trying to be the Amazon number one bestseller.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't usually push Amazon.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I pushmlitue books dot Com, you know, But right now,
in unity, I'm taking one for the team. I need
anybody that love our mission, love what we're doing, supporting
Elikue Books, supporting Malik, and they.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Go and buy on Amazon The Heart of a Black Man. Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Now, it was compiled by a lovely young lady named
to Lisha Barry, and she's done these wonderful anthologies with women,
but now she dropped into the realm to speak on
the resilience and Trump for me in this book The
Heart of a Black Man.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm just so excited to be part of this. My
chapter from Devastation to Elevation.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Now I'm going to read in part of this segment,
I'm going to read a affirmation that I wrote this
in there. At the time I wrote it, I didn't
even know I was writing affirmations, but it ended up
being that. And listen, I didn't even think that. When
I was writing the book, I had it in order.
And then I sat down and read it to April,
and she said, you know, that book is already written
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in the order that didn't need to be. I was like,
what I said, this, Joe is, I was just occasionally
writing this when I get a free moment, you know,
write my thoughts down and so forth.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I opened up my reveal some things.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
About myself in this book, some things you know that
I wanted to share and open up and make myself vulnerable.
So you got to read the book. You gotta read
my part at least, you know, and not that long.
It's an anthology. I put a lot in a little
maybe that little will growing too. My own book. You're
the one Day of feature book based upon this anthology
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that I wrote.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But hey, I'm going to read this part and it's
called Elevator. So I'm gonna read that.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
As part of this segment later on, but I want
to continue to do my introduction for what you can
expect on this episode and so, and what you can.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Expect is Malik Mohamed to read part of his book
The Heart of a Black Man, And I hope you
enjoy that because I opened up and make myself vulnerable,
So enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
It's called Elevators. I'm gonna read that. But moving on,
I'm going to introduce you to a lovely young lady
that I was able to interview at Malik book.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We meet together with fire.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
We got a lot of energy and we in the
interview is just fun and refreshing. And the author name
is kron Nate and she wrote a book called Get
Familiar with Failure to Succeed that we break it all
down because the young lady has been repping and designing
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and planning and in corporate America parties and events for
major companies.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
And she offered us for young and new and upcoming
arthor of news.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So she you know, reveals in detail, you know, her
inspiration and then onto this book.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So that's coming on this episode, and.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
So hey, all I need y'all to do is listen
to this episode because it has featured Malite, my comedic
co author of the Heart of a Black Man, Stories
of Triumph and Resilience enjoy.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
And they couldn't afford outside council and at a certain
point five Johnson asked me to come over and.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Start to leading the party. And that's how I got
to beg.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Once I got there, I started doing more business things
and learned that I liked business more than I did law.
Eventually became COO and CEO, and you know, as they say,
the rest is history. But it was an amazing.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Career and that's what I wanted to write about.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
You know, I think my story is one of resilience
and the term nation. I wasn't sure too early what
I was determined about.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But I was determined to do something and.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
To give back.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
And so for me, be Et provided that Abue, you know,
a place where I could, when I got to a
point of being on the business side, focus on programming
and make high quality, authentic.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
Programming for the black community.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Turn you know, bet in a different direction when I
took over the network of sixty music videos and by
the time I left, we didn't have any music videos,
but we had a lot of original programming. And you know,
that was my vision when I became CEO. And I
always say, when you're CEO, oh, no one asked you
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what your vision is, just what the CEO tells you
to do. But when you become CEO, then they start
asking you what your vision is and that vision and
I'm so proud of.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
What we built at EET. The young people I was
able to hire and.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Give opportunities that they wouldn't have other places and allow
them to stretch. Because you know, if I was looking
for a CFO, I couldn't say I wanted CFO from
another media company.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Because there were no they weren't given those kind of opportunities.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
So instead, you know, I might hire a treasurer and
let them take the leap.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
And that's really what Bob Johnson did for me.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
I mean, I was a six year associated when he
hired me, so it was a leap for me to
become general counsels. So, you know, I wanted to tell
that story. I also wanted to tell the challenges I had,
because I really.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Think that's even more important for.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Young people to know you can be successful in spite
of challenges. And I think because of my position, and
you know, the glamorous side of being CEO and walking
out on the BT Awards stage once a year and
my favorite designer, you know, people think it was really glamorous,
but there was a lot of hard work behind it,
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a lot of sacrifice, you know. I was also I
had two children, I was married twice, divorced twice. And
I know one story I particularly.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Wanted to tell was in between college and law school,
I got pregnant.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
And with someone I wasn't really involved with, so there
was no long term relationship there. And I had an abortion,
and that was something I never talked about publicly, and
with things and things the way they were in that year,
I could go to New York and get an abortion.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
I had that right.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
And I wanted to go to Harvard Law School and
that was my decision, and.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
That's what I wanted to do with.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
My body, and that's what I did, and I did it.
And I showed up up for day one law school
and never looked back. And the thing that scares me
about the political side of that, and what's happening now
is that our young women don't have that opportunity or
losing in the process of losing that opportunity. So I
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really wanted to tell that story. And you know, I
tell the story of having a miscarriage and not being
able to grieve about that, and you know, showing up
in New York at business meetings right after I had
my first child and have to pump milk and throw
it down the toilet because I shouldn't have been there
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in the first place.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
But you know, those are the challenges we have as women.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Also tell the story that Bob Johnson and I had
a personal relationship and that wasn't something I planned, and
it's a relationship that was good for a while and
then it turned abuse to then it turned into sexual
harassment as my job was tied in uh to the relationship,
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and I wanted young women to hear that story. You know,
we heard so many stories during Me Too and times up,
but they're always I think a bit exaggerated, you know,
in terms of guys.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
Coming to the door and roads and you.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Know, just just that extreme side of me too. And
I knew my story was a little different. Still, you know,
it didn't have a great envy, but.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
I wanted to tell it, and so you know, there
are other things that deal with in the book. I
don't want to spoil it.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
I think you know people with the response has been great.
The response been great for women and men, which I
really appreciate.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
And a lot of some of you tonight have told
me you couldn't put the book down, and you know,
I really poured my heart into it.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
And you know, someone told me once, if.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
The Lion doesn't tell the story, the hunter will. I
wanted to tell my own story in my own way.
It's funny I didn't let other than my daughter, who
I let you one or two chapters. I didn't let
anybody else read it except the proof readers and editors.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
But I didn't want to.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
Have an influence in any way. I just wanted to
tell And so I'm so glad it's out and I
really appreciate you all coming out tonight and supporting me.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
And I hope you know some of you have told me.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
You enjoyed the book, and for those of you who
haven't read it, I hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
And I think the reason back to the beginning question.
The reason I wrote.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
It is wanted to help the generation come in and
I wanted them to know if I can do it,
you can do it, and you should dream big. I
never thought i'd d CEO of a major media company.
That's not what I started out to do, but that's
what I accomplished, and I wanted, you know, those who
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come behind me to know about.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
So with that, what are the five keys to success?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Since you since why you ever stell a career?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
It was the five keys that particularly to the young
girls and young.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Okay, yeah, three. Be passionate about what you're doing. We
all work so hard. If you're not passionate about it,
you know, it's.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
A waste of time. Whether it's a cause, whether it's
a company, whatever, be passionate about it.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Get educated.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
My dad was a big believer in getting the best
education you can.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
And can be going to HBCU State College, I believe,
or whatever it was, study home.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
And then I would say, be true to your valuist.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
You know, in your work and.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
In your personal and we all you know, we only
know what our own values are. But you know you
have to be honest to yourself and you know play
honest to your family.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
But keep to your values.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
That's one thing.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
We found a BET that when we were doing mostly videos,
a lot of employees were embarrassed about the programming and
they were scared to go to the family and then
and say, I work at BET.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
And you know, and videos started out.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Being nutha Frankler, you work, wind and fire, but they
turned into the Lil Wayne and you pull a lot
of other people.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
But anyway, be true to your values. And I'm sure
there's seven others. If you want to do those three.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
You're well on your way.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I got a guess with me right here at Malik Books.
You know how we do it. We don't script, We.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
Be organic and we have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
She's an independent author and she's a new author, and
I have a book right here in the store signed
as a matter of fact, so let me introduce you
to kay Renee, who wrote the book.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Get familiar with failure to Succeed.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Now we're gonna die right into it right now, So welcome.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
You have a crazy.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
TV yet Oh my god, Well, thank you for the compliment.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Well, Hey, my audience on Malik's bookshelf, want to know
all about this book because it's a book about business,
aren't you knew it?
Speaker 8 (18:00):
And it's guiding the young and the.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Youth the oh to not fail but to succeed in business.
Don't get twisted on the title get familiar with fair First,
I thought you did.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
Yeh, I thought, I said, get familiar with failure. Well,
that's something we should.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Not be familiar with.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Out, I want to get familiar with succeed.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
But tell us why you came up with this type.
Speaker 10 (18:23):
I wanted it to do just that, Like I wanted
it to make you challenge the word failure, like, oh
my god, I don't want to get familiar with selling.
But it's like, no, we have to kind of help
people reprogram the meaning of what failure is in business,
and failure is not something bad, like you know, failure
is you should be leveraging it as a catalyst. And
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I feel like failure is only bad if you don't
want to open up your eyes to the lessons, to
the things that you need to be paying attention to
and then correcting.
Speaker 9 (18:52):
Those things and going after it again.
Speaker 10 (18:54):
You know, So we gotta like we gotta like reprogram
ourselves to be comfortable with the thought that I'm gonna
put this out and it could fail.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
It might fail, but that's not the end goal. That's
where I learning.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Ugh, Okay, okay, well I'm feeling that, and I think
you absolutely correct because every failure I han had allowed
me to succeed. Every loss I don't had allowed me
to win because I got better, I got more determined.
I learned from my mistakes. I learned from my failures.
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And I think that's what you're saying. We're born in
complete to go into completion with. So it's gonna take
sometimes feeling or not succeeding.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
In order to learn how to win it and how
to succeed.
Speaker 10 (19:42):
And skin to go into the next battlefield, like you know,
like you need you need some bumps, you need some bruises.
There's there's no reason for you to be in the
in the game if you ain't even got no bumps,
no bruises. We're not looking at like, you know, absolutely
respecting the person that like, oh you're too clean.
Speaker 9 (20:02):
No, no, no, you got to get out of here.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
I can't trust.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
You, you know what. I liking that what you just
said to the analogy. When I was when we all
was a child learning how to walk. We felt a
whole lot, but we got up and we perfected out
of walk.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I got tired of falling and I started.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
Standing walking, and I don't fall as much.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So I liking that analogy to what you what you're saying, right,
we do gotta get thick skin, because a lot of
us go into business and the minute we hit a
road bump, we think about quitting and getting out of
the game and stop going in a different court.
Speaker 8 (20:34):
I know, me included, I've been there.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I doubted myself, you know, even in my journey with
Malik books and so hitting that thick skin help will
help you overcome when you get those thoughts, because we
all got them.
Speaker 8 (20:48):
Two thoughts in our minds.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
How and the load that which it wants to motivate you,
and that which wants to talk you out of what
you're trying to do.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
So speak on that.
Speaker 10 (20:59):
I mean, I feel like I and even in my
own journey, I've had to battle with that with myself.
It's like when I first first first started out, which
I do talk about in the book, I was homeless
and broke producing events teaching entrepreneurship, and people didn't even
know that like I was producing these events and trying
to be the very last person to leave because I
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didn't want people to know that I didn't even.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
Know where I was gonna go that night, you know.
Speaker 10 (21:24):
But it was like and I used to discourage me,
and one of my friends used to always be like
he d stop putting on these events teaching people's business
when you're broke, and I just be like, no, but
God keeps telling me to do it. So I don't know,
I'm gonna just keep doing it cause like, yeah, you know,
I'm not I'm not making no money. I don't know
how to I'm not figuring out why I'm out, like
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you know, like I don't know, like I just I
just had to keep going how to keep going.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
Cause it's like even though.
Speaker 10 (21:51):
I felt like I was failing, because it's like I'm
putting on these events, I'm still walking away with nothing.
I'm putting on these events, I'm still walking away with nothing,
and it's like, you know what, it's okay, like one
of these days, I'm gonna put this on and I'm
gonna walk away with something. I don't know when, when when,
but but something's gonna come back to me.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
You know that takes relief, That takes.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
More than just like you got to know you want
to see and you faking it until you make it.
You have sometimes you gotta put on that different look,
that different face, that different style.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I mean, dressed too impressive even if.
Speaker 10 (22:24):
You bro, I think like people back then, if you
looked at like what my hair looked like back then,
how dry it was. I feel like if you really
paid attention, you knew I didn't have no mooddy because
my hair was crisp, then it's all boys.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, yeah, progress, Yeah, it's so dry.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I mean you opened up and just made yourself vulnerable
telling your story. And that's wonderful because you know, we
can look at success and it looks great, but it's
a backstory. You just gave your backstory. You just revealed
to Malice Bookshelf. I was homeless, bro, and yet I
found a way to step up into my beliefs and
my glory and my success.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Now now you're doing now my understandings.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
You you're putting on events for name some of.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
Them corporate jobs. Don't Fortune five hundred talk to them.
Speaker 10 (23:20):
You know, you know essential water water we work, you know,
we just in these street bam.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
You know, look at that, Look at that, because your
grind was real, it was one hundred. You believe in
yourself and yet boom, you walked in and got contracts
with major corporations due event planning for them. And so
that's that's amazing because like I said, you know, the
(23:50):
mind is a terrible thing to weigh, and you will
talk yourself out of success or.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
No glory if you let it. Because we ain't born.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
With all the skills, and so you know, you had
to find the skills in order to You've been in
the game teaching the things that you have in your
book for about seven years now, right, Yeah, talk about that.
Speaker 10 (24:11):
Well, Like for me, it's like I'm first generation, you know,
so I feel like I wanted to create and I've
always been creating for that particular audience because first generation
entrepreneurs are a vulnerable audience.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
You know, they don't.
Speaker 10 (24:26):
Have sometimes friends or family to confide in about what
they're doing, you know, because they not even that they
don't want to be there for them, They don't know
how to be there for you. And I think that's
one thing like first generation entrepreneurs, which I talk about,
need to understand is that don't put so much pressure
on other people to cheer you on and to hype
(24:46):
you up. Do not put so much pressure on your
family to understand because at the end of the day,
you have to remember, they don't have the same mindset
as you. So it's your job to educate them, to
teach them. They're not gonna be here to teach you you,
you know, so you need to get a circle of
other first generational entrepreneurs to compie in.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
You know, absolutely, And what would you say, Uh, why
should people want to read your book?
Speaker 8 (25:12):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (25:14):
You should definitely want to read this book.
Speaker 10 (25:16):
If you want to be motivated, if you want to
get access to the tools, to the resources, if you
want to be out here pitching your way to success.
Everything that you need to do that is in here.
If you want to make sure that you building a
house and your foundation is set, you want to get
this book because sometimes we go into business and you
don't even know how to send an email. You don't
even know how to get someone to respond to your email.
(25:38):
But this book is going to help you do that.
Like you don't even know how to put a pitch
deck together. But this book is going to help you
do that.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
Yes, you know, you'll know how to live in your confidence.
Speaker 8 (25:48):
Yes you know, yes book, yes you do that. Yes
we all have to pay it forward. We all have to.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
And I'm saying, like I know, this information in this
book is a good content. Good content, let me tell
you in good information, because I know, I meet a
lot of people, and they I get bone rash a lot,
and I get calls a lot, you know, to hosted
books or some proposition or whatever to clear an event
(26:18):
or so forth, and it's a lot of noise.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
And I tell all all.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
The time, you gotta find a way to get my
attention because I got a lot of things going on.
Speaker 8 (26:26):
I still gotta do marketing. I still got to do
a county, I still got to order books. I got
a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
So it's not that I'm busy, and so I only
got so many hours in the day and so much
time to do certain tasks. And you're bone weshed up
in here. You know what I'm saying, What time you closed,
I'm coming, I'm coming. I got a book, I said, Okay,
I happened to be here when you came in, and I.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
Knew you was gonna be here when you was full up,
So that they got was.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
A strategic strategic and and and look she kid knock
me up in here and had me we up here
building for.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
About an hour.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
That's how robust the conversation was and how enlightened was
and we were helping each other in the different industries
that we might be in. There was a common denominator
and we begin to talk about, you know, things that
could elevate both of us. And so it was intriguing
and refreshing. And that's how you gotta be. Her elevator
(27:24):
pitch was a one. So I know it's some good
information in this book because she broke through. And if
you're trying to break through, and if you're trying to
learn how to succeed, and if you stop and if
you don't want to fail, let me tell you something,
you better come.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
Get a book that you can relate to.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Get familiar with failure to succeed.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
Knee.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
Now, I'm definitely using that, y'all.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
You heard it, You heard it now more last question.
You know, let my.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Audience at police bookshelf know three things that there is
a takeaway that they can use right now today in
this book for me and like in this book okay.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
You know what I'm saying or in general, but you.
Speaker 8 (28:22):
Know, okay.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
Three takeaways that you could leverage right now today. One,
make sure that you're setting your intentions every single morning.
Setting intentions is literally gonna help you propel your day.
Is gonna help you like address everything through those intentions. Two,
make sure that you are giving gratitude to God for
(28:47):
waking you up every day. I think that's something that
you can definitely do today, right now, every single day.
And last, if you are looking to pitch yourself, the
thing that you could do right now is you can
start practicing in the mirror everything a day, talking to yourself,
asking yourself what the what you want to gain from
the conversation, who you are, why you're there, and then
(29:08):
how you're gonna.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
Leave that person.
Speaker 9 (29:10):
Practice that in the mirror every single day.
Speaker 10 (29:12):
Get it down to like fifteen to twenty seconds, and
you gotta elevate a bitch.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Bingo found book right here at Malie Books. And thank you,
thank you for being part of my podcast. Malik's Booksh'll
bringing the world together with books, culture and community.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
This was fresh and and lightning. I'm sure my audist
is gonna get a lot of it. I know I did.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
Thank you, Thank you, and make sure you guys follow
me on all social media platforms, even Triller. It's oo sorry,
it's keirane k E I R E N E.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
E bgo all right right here at Malie Books.
Speaker 8 (29:57):
The Heart of a Black Man just release.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It's on Amazon. Needs you to help me make a
best seller. I'm gonna read a section in here called Elevated.
Malik Muhammad, co author of.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
The Heart of a Black Man.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
And Spine Stories of Triumph and Resilience. My chapter is
called From Devastation to Elevation, and the section I'm gonna
read is called Elevated. I am elevated because my eyes
are open now. I'm elevated because I help my community.
I am elevated because I know how to love myself.
(30:33):
I am elevated because my mind, body and spirit have
been awaken. I am elevated because I work for myself.
I am elevated because I am great. I am elevated
because I am a father and husband. I am elevated
because I know how to be a man. I am
elevated because I have survived the pandemic.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
I am elevated because the community supports my mission.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I am elevated because I understand the many of unity.
I am elevated because I know my limitations. I am
elevated because I am here and now. And I'm elevated because.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
I have you.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Thanks for listening to Malik's Bookshelf, where topics on the
shelf are books, culture, and community.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Be sure to subscribe and leave me a review. Check
out my Instagram at Malik Books.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
See you next time.
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