November 8, 2023 • 34 mins
Today Michael talks about the arrest of the guy that “allegedly” killed Tupac. What took so long? Is it the right guy or are they just trying to close the case? Let’s talk about it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hm, who y'all ready, let's go well, so missus, Michael
called this world started doing venice peach. Now he reached
in the world, He'll make you left. Take the stomach
car superfly, nice guys, pay get to me to work.
Trust kidding now old he ain't ready for the star
searching winter and oh g three times. This ain't gonna
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be getting whether you win, y'all house, you want your
brother out's a.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Dinner on your job and your brother, I mean has
a call.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Michael Taus said, everybody I call Michael Taus. Had everybody
like to call, yes, Michael Tausa.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Everybody you know what shin called?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Michael Tuck said, everybody I called Michael Taush, everybody Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
To say my body, everybody, everybody don't call ha Yes boy,
you in the right place. Michael talked to everybody. Why,
I said everybody? I mean everybody, y'all stick around. I
just layed up a homeless dude. I want to interview
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an upcoming show a homeless dude. You know, we pass
homeless dude. We don't pay him no attention. Sometime we
might give him a dollar, but we don't want to
look him in the eye. And we think we know
how it is with them from our side. But I
want to talk to the actual homeless dude. I'm not gonna,
you know, give him an apartment or nothing. No, I
might even give a couple of dollars. I just want
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to talk to him about who he is and what
he's going through so we get the authenticity of it.
That's coming up show. But we talked to everybody on
this show. So hello everybody, hope you're having a magnificent day.
That you boy, Michael Kaye, Michael talked to everybody. We
got the crew on today. I'm very excited. We have
straight up black, straight black. He is funny. Eybody can
tell you that she's hilarious. So she's a national comedian.
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Also a one of the hosts Mike Caye Morning Show
and the awesome cousin Derek. That's right, Derek Keen. I've
been doing comedy for about one hundred and fourteen years
and he's only forty three. But he's fabulous and that
both here. Welcome to the show, both of you guys.
So the topic today is Tupac. Tupac is dead. Okay,
(02:12):
we know that part, at least we think it is
some people still see sightings. People still see too. I
saw I saw Tupac at the seven eleven on Crenshawn
for the third you know, uh, people are still seeing him.
But he hit them on. He hit him on. He
was a friend of mine, not a great friend. I
never been to his house, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I didn't even have a phone him. But we would talk.
He would come to Venice Beach and see me do comedy.
He would try to instigate some time. You know, he
tried to get me and other comics to you know
what they call it signifying when you talk about each
other playing a dozen. But he wouldn't personally do that
with you. You ain't gonna play a dozens with Tupac,
but he'll get you another person to play a dozen.
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And he loved to laugh. He loved the joke. And
anybody who know him, who knew him at all, knew
he was like a kid man. He's like that young
brother of yours you wish you had, who was impulsive, funny, smart,
you know, and in your face it's gonna be who
he was gonna be. So he's a great guy. He
was a great guy. And we lost him as terrible.
We lost him in ninety six to a murder. And
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I understand or I hear tell or I read I
saw somewhere that they arrested a guy and charged him
with the murder.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Keithy D.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Is his name? Keithy waitman say, yeah, that's he got
an official name.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
No, Keithy D.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
What they call him? You know, keith D If you're sexy,
you know. But oh wow, this is mugshot and everything.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Dwayne in treble, his trouble is.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Trouble is his official name he has. Oh way, he's
evolved into who he really is. Then, okay, so his
name is Dwayne Keith Oh that's where the Keithy D
come from. Dwayne Keith Davis has been indicted in connection
with the nineteen ninety six murder of rapper to Box
chakol Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Also a great guy. He also goes by in eight
zero six. He got a name.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
He got to come here, boy, you got.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Little?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Didn't anyone know that it is this incident right here
that would ultimately lead to the retaliatory shooting and the
death of Tupac. They said they're talking about the attack
on his friends. What was his friends? Or his cousin.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
The Tupac and then beat up was a Orlando. It
was a It was a gang member, Orlando. I can't
remember his last name, Orlando Anderson. It was after the
Mike Tyson fight in Las Vegas, and Tupac.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Was really full of energy that night. He was looking for.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Trouble and he looked over and saw Orlando and said,
isn't that the game member or the dude that stole
your cousin stuff?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Let's get him? And then Tupac, I hold you up.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
He was cocky, he was having fun, he's pumped up,
he was high. But I'm not gonna say he was
looking for trouble because that's not who Tupac was. Tupac
never went looking for trouble.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Now that nigga went looking for trouble, Okay.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Continue, I'm done. He went looking for it because he
was a He thought he went this for one first.
You could see in the video, there's clear evidence video straight.
I don't know if you've seen it where Tupac is
leading the charge looking for the Orlando fella, which he's
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now deceased, and you've seen Shug huffing and puffing running
behind Pop trying to keep up with him. He led
the charge that night to retaliate, and and and what
what they thought is that, you know, they would just
jump on the guy and they would be over with
Tupac should have stayed in this room that night. But
afterwards he got in the car with shug get down
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the street, hit the trip. Yeah, they hit the strip
and across the street from where we now know that
Florid lives.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Hold up a second before we talk about this, let's
talk about that bitch ass ship where somebody punched you
in the face and you have to retaliate by killing
them with a gun. What happened to fighting? What happened to?
Somebody pitched you off? You stand toe to toe with
a man. And let's let's take this what happens, Let's
take this outside. What happened to? I put this on
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my shoulder. I dare you to knock it off. I
put a line on the ground. Step over there, I
dare you. How do we go from that to the
first time you insult me or hit me, I have
to take your life.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It was twelve, y'all.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
It was twelve, And I don't care how you feel
about twelve.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, no history.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I'm sorry, and know you's so funny kind of made
me stop about what I was about to say. I
think that the people don't know how to take an
ass whipping, like back in the day, whether you win
to lose, it's so much pride and stuff or you know,
like I said growing up, you know you like you
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win some you lose something, but you live to see
another day.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
And people are afraid of an ass whooping.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Let me tell you something. I had my hand whooped
in the neighborhood and it was fine. I have my
ass whooped in the locker room, it was fine. I've
never had my ass whooped in public, and I'm gonna
tell you right now, I know that wouldn't be fine
because if everybody watched me getting my ass whip, and
then they everybody got to take a shot.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
It can be Jack Daie's or Cod forty five. You
got to take a shot. You're not gonna whoop me.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
But see, I wouldn't even think about that. It's so
interesting how people really care about what other people think
about them, what they saw happen. You know, I'm that cat.
If I'm carrying my groceries and I fall down the
bad groceries go everywhere. I'm not looking around to see
who the hell saw me for. I'm trying to pick
up the my raunches in that car and the milky shit.
You know, but I'm not. I mean, everybody's not the
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same way. But if I get my assick, I don't
care if it's in public or in private. I got
my ass kicked, and I'm mad about that. But I
want to come back at you like you came and me.
I don't want you to punch you in the face
and then I shoot you in a face that's not
that's not face. Bullshit, bullshit.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, the coward always lives to tell, to tell no.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
So it seems like.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Someone dies and you find out the truth twenty five
years or better, it takes twenty five years for the truth.
Seems like that's any American.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Story for real.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
So like you gotta die, wait twenty five years and
then the truth comes out.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Well that's probably what Keithy was thinking. He was thinking,
fuck it, I can go and kill him now because
they didn't come out for twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Hey, listen here, Keithy be told on himself.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
I have never seen anybody do so many interviews where
they tell about how they were at the scene of
the crime and just rattle it off and say Tufac
looked like he was breakdance and trying to get the
back seat.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
This is what the man is saying in interviews.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So his mouth, Hey listen, I'm glad they got him
and now got him in trouble. His mouth got him
in trouble. And old budd Australia. I wore my I
wore my Love hoodie today. You see you see that
for you? He is wearing a Love sweatshirt. Can we
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all get along.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I don't want no smoke with Brother Love, regardless of
whether he's affiliated, associated or not.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
I don't want no smoke with Brother Love because.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Love tough.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Daddy.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Mister mister, I said, look a mister, me and Taylor
ran out the club. Yeah, mister, you can have your
publishing back after twenty five thirty years.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I ain't gonna need it where I'm going, mister mister,
Take that. Take that. Take that. I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
But I keep telling people if he was able to
I mean allegedly, if you was able to hide it
and cover it or whatever people are saying up till
twenty something years ago. Just imagine what he's gonna do now.
When anything happens, it's three sides. Sides to a story.
It's on your side, their side, and the truth. So
do you know how many people that were was there
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that night in different stories that's been told.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I do, I know. I know who was saying he
was there with a telescope.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
He was watching, Puffy was watching from a distance, watching anybody.
No one's saying that Puffy's behind anything, are we Oh it's.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yes, they are.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Allegedly he put out a one million dollars allegedly Puffy
if you watch it, if you're listening, Allegedly he put
out a one million dollar hit on who on Park.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Wait wait, hold up, okay, this is news to me.
You're saying that allegedly. Let me see because everything that
leg just usually pops up on the internet. And you're
saying he put out a million.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Fifty put a meme today.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
It's so funny because today fifty cent put a meme
and was like, brother, Love, you better find some lawyers.
And it's so funny, And anybody didn't know fifty cent
he says, you know a radical things.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
But it's like, did he just say that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Well, he said it because he was one.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
He was trolling Buffy about a month ago, controlling him,
and he was talking about he was talking. He was
really you know, he's telling the truth because it has
always been alleged that Puff Daddy had something to do
with this. Now I am not calling that man no killer.
What I am calling him is someone who pays people
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to do something that he don't want to do. I
at my apartment, well I don't take out my trash.
Somebody come buy and do it.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
But I got the ham that's crazy. So here it
says a La detective, this Greg Carding, and who handled
the case back in two thousand and six. He came
to the conclusion that did he put a one million
dollar hit on both two Block and Sugar Night.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
And guess what?
Speaker 5 (12:02):
And Keithy d is telling everything now and since he
locked up, I'm pretty sure Keithy gonna take Puffy. It'll
be Keithy, Puffy, Stuffy, all of them down at jail
house pretty sovil.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
What I don't I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Even think it'll I don't even think it'll go as
far as what people think.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I just don't.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
I mean, it's been so long like this is something
it's been so long. It's so many versions of the
truth at this point, it's so many versions of life.
It's so many versions of everything. That's something that they've
been going in for years, the East Coast, West Coast.
It's so many layers to that situation that people won't know. Now,
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we'll all spectate you to have her own personal opinions,
but it's so much stuff that.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
We do not know.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
I can tell you how you get to the bottom
of it. I tell I tell you exactly how you
get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
How do you do that?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Get Keithy d in a room. You get keithyd in
a room, you put a microphone in front of said
and go.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
He would ever tell you something? I wouldn't want to.
I wouldn't want to do nothing with Keithy.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Not around him.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Oh no, And he ain't gonna tell it that day.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
You can't do nothing around it. You can't smoke dope
on the side with him. You you can't cheat with
another woman, you can't do another stuff.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I'm sorry, go ahead, no old, Oh listen, he done
got to the point where he's so old.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
He's just telling it because he don't think nothing. Old
people don't think nothing.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
But he ain't that old. He's only sixty. Look, I'm
sixty six. You're not telling me that sixty year old.
It's old.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
He's sixty and he's not old.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
He's just a new form of a snitch, that's it.
I mean, he just a new form. It's a new
form of snitching. Because everybody that was kind of there
is like that. So of course he's like, now I
can tell whatever I want to tell.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
We were gonna come right back and talk more about
this today. As you know, we're talking about they finally
found somebody to put the blame on for killing Toothpocket.
Looked like he might even be the guy. If he
ain't the guy, he know the guy because he's there
next to the guy, and he's all the guy. Anyway,
this boy and talks so much, he didn't got itself
in a bit of a sticky wicked and fifty cent
ways in he says, uh, time to lawyer up? He
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says to did he time to lawyer up? Shit might
get sticky. We'll be right black. It's Michael talked to everybody.
We'll see in a minute, and we're black. I mean
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we're back, Yo. It is Michael talked to everybody today.
We're talking about this guy who got arrested, Keithy D. Dwayne,
Keevy D. Davis. A few weeks after the arrest and
the connection the murder of the nineteen ninety six murder
of rapper two Bucks, you called fifty cent has name dropped.
Sean Diddy comes and implied that he was involved in
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the infamous murder. What do you think? Do you think
did he was involved in this or not? One of
you at a time you think straight up? Ladies, First,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I have I have my own you know.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
You said it's three sides, Which one can you give us?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
The one where she was at puffy party. That's why
she don't want to say that Puffy party. And she
was over there smoothing up the puffy so she don't
want to say nothing. He said, I've been in the party,
like I'm doing serious, I've been in the party with
Puff Diddy. I want to say two, two, three times.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I mean hell of a party.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I've walked in where he's literally stood at the door
and waved his hand like this, and that means that
he's paying for the entire club at the party, and
this is in New York City. Like, so he's He's
definitely one of those guys. And I've witnessed it, like
with my own two.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Eyes watching how Diddy how he moves and stuff, and
it's just yes, like I mean, then he beat the
guy up with Then he beat the guy up with
a champagne bottle. Once it was a it was another
musical artist. It was who was doing something. He walked
into his office and hit him with a champagne bottom.
They beat him up. Did that happened? I'm okay, allegedly too,
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It's alleged here. This is a month, this is a show.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
And man, then he hasn't be done a whole lot,
and he is implicated in a lot, and he's always
found a way to slip and slide out of the
grips of the justice system. But let me tell you something, man,
you can only run but so much. And I'm not
saying that that he did it. What I am saying
is that if they keep tull of your name, at
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some point, you don't have to us. And so you know,
I'm just I'm grateful that we even had Tupac for
twenty five years. The fact that this man like to
that impactful in tw I've been here for forty three
and it ain't accomplished.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
What was he doing accomplished ship?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Wait a minute, I ain't.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Same area of it.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
You know this is this is very interesting.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I'm really gonna follow this story because I want to
find out exactly what happens. I want to know how
much they're going to uh lean on brother Keify to
see what he knows. And one thing that I do
know is that sug Knight has always maintained that he
would never tell what he saw that night. He won't
tell who he's and it is a form of snitching
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when you tell it. But let me tell you something.
If you shot at me, it ain't snitching. I'm telling
what I saw. That's snitching is oh I was in
on it, and in order for me not to get
in trouble, I'm gonna tell on you that snitching.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I just think snitching is telling anything. I think snitching
is telling anything you ain't got. You ain't gotta be
in on it. If you saw it and you told it,
your ass snitched.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I'm a citizen. I'm a regular citizen.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Oh so I'm in a report. You wasn't snitching, You
just spoke.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's right. Hey, let me tell you something.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
If I saw somebody do something that either one of
you and you said, you're standing in the rain, and
if I go, I don't snitch on nobody.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Did Brady the room beat your ads beat yours?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
And that's it?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
I agree with you, Michael.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I think it's still a new It's just another form
of telling you dirty rat.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
So who is this? Keepy d though? That's what waner?
Who is he? Have we heard of him at all
before he started flapping his gums And that's.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
What I'm saying. He's a nigga.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Who I mean, you gotta call him a nigga. No,
that's a nigga for you. That's who waited to all
this shit happens. And then oh, yeah, this is what happened.
Like I said, everybody that was around is kind of
dead or put in places work. Like you said, it's
nothing to untold story. I mean, Tupac was so influential
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to the culture. I mean dn now because if you
know his upbringing, he was raised by you know, mom,
who was a black panther and you know, things like that.
But he was so influential to the people that he
has a real strong influence on us. So we still watch, well,
we say, we still say stuff like me mcavelly, he
coming back twenty years like, that's why he would, you know,
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Michael said. Earlier people say they seen him at the
store and things like that.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
So I don't know. It's so many layers to this.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And here they say as far back as nineteen ninety eight,
Dwayne Keith Davis was telling the cable Tell that he
was a front seat passenger in the car from which
a fellow pastor fired the shots that killed Tupac. So yeah,
even if he didn't do it, he should do a
little tab for snitching. No, if you roll with him,
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how you gonna ride with him? Then go back and
tell you.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well, let me tell you they say it's not snitching
if they did.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
T I is famously known for having a conversation with
his deceased cousin about whose guns it was in the car,
and because the cousin was deceased, t I said, my
cousin said, tell him it's mind.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
That wasn't snitching.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
T I was just.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Letting his cub and take he was already dead.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, ain't nobody gonna get hurt on that one. I
thought you just gonna try to say that t I
was snitching. We don't. We ain't gonna do that.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
This story, it's already dead except for Keify and Puffy
I mean Keithy.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
And so yeah, it makes what I said, It makes it,
I mean, you making what I'm saying even more true.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Here's how they got this. I'm sorry, I'm like, here's
how they got to this. Keithy d is a member
of the South Side Crypts. Tupac was hanging out with
what is known as a blood gang member, which would
be Sugar Night. Now, Tupac was never necessarily in a gang,
but he was just affiliated. And so that that is
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how puffect yo. If you, if I'm on shoot, that
you is gonna be a rival gang. And that's what
Puff I mean or whoever high. I gotta stop saying
that man name fold something come back like, yeah, quit.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So what I think is the allegations because I'm not
saying he did it because I love brother love.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
That's why I wore my hoodie because I love love.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So I love love so wait, so this guy is
supposed to be only witness, and that's weird too, that
nobody else saw anything. He's the only he is the
only suspect in the case who's still alive. Uh. Davids
has said in a memoir. You know, he wrote a memoir,
So this is all about him. Get that damn book off.
That he's one of two living witnesses, with the other
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being a record label boss who's now driving, who was
driving Shakur.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Hey, man, I was in the hood once.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I was in the hood once, go ahead, and.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
A dude shot somebody, and he looked at her and said,
who start something?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
All of us? You see what all of us?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Something happened to this day, I still don't know who
got shot. Okay, let's let's ask this question. Is it
okay to snitch under the right circumstances or are there
correct circumstances where it's okay to snitch.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
On all of them? It's okay to snitch.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
I don't agree with that.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I'm hey, that's good, that's hey. I'm not gainst at all.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
There ain't nothing about me to say thug life, thug passion.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I'm a reporter, I'm a podcast, I talk, I do
not do. I don't do no time, I don't do
no crime. And so it's not snitching. From a citizen standpoint,
it is not snitching. Snitching sounds sneaky. Snitching don't sound
like you, yeah, sound back. It don't sound like you
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standing on somebody's face, say he did it. It sounds
like some shit you call. Well, you know Ricky did that.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
You know you got crime stoppers in your neighborhood, and
so listen. One of my clans, I was riding down
the street. I saw his face on a billboard, and
I went to a local restaurant where they got to
two for twenty five. I'm not saying their name because
we ain't getting no money for it. So you can
see two people twenty five dollars. When I seen him
in that restaurant, I picked up my mother phone out
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like hello, crumbsuppers, I see. I don't think that niche.
I think that's paying your bills. Because there was a
twenty five hundred dollars reward out for that feller.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
We got a guy we like around here. A lot
of gangsters and rappers don't like him. Charles, what's his name?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
We bring on me always.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Charlie Charles Charles, Charleston Aston White Charleston Wright White says,
I'm snitching right now, do some shit in my neighborhood.
By the time you finished doing it, I've already told him.
He said, I don't like them, none of the people
to do bad shit in my community. I don't care
if they rappers, gangsters or what I'm telling and I'm
telling it out loud. What do you think is there
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a correct time to snitch, stray up?
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Telling?
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Okay, so telling if someone warms a young person, or
telling if.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
You know you're affecting the community.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Telling if you're doing something that's harmful, that's not snitching.
But snitching is telling if you saw something meaning like
if you saw a robbery.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
And you told, oh, yeah, that was the dude in
the red that's okay.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Wait, what's the difference, Derek, in snitching and telling.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
I went to the clinic once because I had VD
and they asked me only only once. They asked me,
who have you been with? And when I told her,
the girl called me and says to you, I.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Was hell not do you answer Astraya, because you put
that out there, astrail You answered what's the difference in
snitching and telling. I don't know what's the difference.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I mean the example that I gave, I mean to me,
it depends on the crime in the situation. And I
know that sounds fucked up, but it is again depending
on the crime in the situation. If you do a
drive by and you kill another killer and you tell,
that's not snitching to.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Me, I think I think it depends like if I
saw you smoking with and you was supposed to be,
I'm not snitching.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
There's nothing to tell.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
On if if if somebody, if somebody saw nothing. I
want to post this to both of you, and I'm
not putting this on you, but if you if somebody
saw a person murder someone really close to you and
they got away, would you not want them to tell?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Would you not want them? Would you would do?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Are you going to live by that no snitching policy
because we don't snitch der.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I just told you I'm too gangst that I think
I would turn into an action.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I found a difference. I found a difference. I went
to a definition, and I found a difference in snitch
and telling. Here's the difference to secretly tell that's snitching
is to secretly tell, to tell it out loud, and snitching.
You ain't sneaking around. Snitch. You saying out loud what
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you saw happen. To secretly tell someone in authority that
someone else had done something bad, often in order to
cause trouble. She thought he was snitching.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Where did you get your definition from? This is what
I want to know.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
This is the English Dictionary, the Cambridge Dictionary, under the
word snitch. White.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Folks, look, let me tell you what I miss. Danger
like we have, you can't tell it ublically is you
might come up missing.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So you're telling someone Snitching, snitching or tattling is telling
on someone when the situation is safe and does not
require an adult to be involved. So you sneaking around
to do the snitching. You ain't just going out because
so to me, Charleston White doesn't snitch. Charleston White tells
if you do some shit, I'm telling on your heads.
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I'm telling on you. Ooh, and Mama come home. I'm
telling on you. That ain't snitching. But if when Mama
come home, you ain't told him, you're telling and you tall, Mama,
you know who's spilled that sugar that was Charlene did that,
that's snitching.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Go ahead, No, I was just about to say, I mean,
in our culture, we're talking if you tell too much,
like put out that damn telling telling telling, you know,
so to a certain extent, It's like certain things that
are allowed in our culture that other things we just.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Don't talk about.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
I would like to go on record in our culture
around me.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I am not I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm
not gonna snitch. Ain't that nigga?
Speaker 5 (27:47):
But I tell yes, this is honestly God truth. This,
Oh my God, perfect example. This is honest god truth.
Something happened between me and a other comedian where a
girl said that she that he raped her. Now, this
is a true story, and I will never forget. I
was sitting in the Guardian airport and Detective Jones of
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the North Carolina Police Department called me and said, hey,
do you know what we called?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I said I should do. This is what happened. She said,
we need you to come back.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
I said, I'm not coming back. I told you everything
I said. And he called me right after. He said, hey, man,
how you doing. I said, they looking for you. They're
definitely looking for you. He said, what you tell him?
I said everything I knew. He said, why would you
do that? I said, because I didn't do nothing, and
I'm not going down for this.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
This is your deal.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
You And in the end, because I told the truth,
he didn't get in trouble because I didn't see him
do nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
So that ain't that ain't snitching, that's telling.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Oh, that's telling Michael. So we can't do ship in
front of Derby, No.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Because he gonna tell it. Don't schnitching is going if
we even know he in the room. Mom's the word zibit? Okay,
all right? Why do people snitch? Lack of trust in
the police department? Now, people snitch so they can get
some attention. And let me ask this part of it.
If he sat there talking about the situation and he
was in the front seat, why didn't he say the
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name of the killer? If he's sitting in the car
with the guns being shot for he told everybody I
was in the front seat at the front seat view,
how come he's not saying who the killer is?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
That's what I'm saying. It's so many layers to this story.
It's so many fucking layers to this story. It's so many,
you know, questions that are still being asked. You know
that never was asked twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Okay, So we had to wrap it up because we
didn't want overtime. Almost here talking about by the damn
schmitch snitch. Don't got that much tam coming, okay, KEVD.
I know he gonna walk up to me somewhere and say, man,
your work Okay anyway, Oh.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
My god, I bet he's gonna tell everybody.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
He telling everybody's guy. I need him around so I
can get more numbers because he gonna tell everybody. Hey,
all right, Well, well whatever happens, I hope they come
out with a positive result. I'm glad for Tupac's family.
That looks like it might be some type of closure
or something that looks like it, you know, because they
have someone to take a blame it on, you know.
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So that's that's a good that's a good start. That's
all we can say about this. It's fine, you study.
I don't know if Tupac, I don't know if not
Tac ain't behind it, cause he did. I don't know
if he did, he his behind it. I don't know
if he had anything to do with it. I don't
know none of that stuff. We're making no claims on
this show. All we saying is question nitch and shout
(30:47):
the fuck up manual business. Uh. And we want to
watch this case very closely because I love Tupac and
then then I do now he is one of the
greatest influences on hip hop in the history of the world.
We need to honor him and you know, and hope
for the best possible result. Straight Black. Tell people when
they can find you, well.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
With us been in the month of November. My birthday
is November nineteen.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Well, they can always find me on cash up, Zenmo, PayPal,
gas stations, food stamps, that anything that they want.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
To woo woo woo. What's your cash aft though, Jessic gaate,
they might have a couple of dollars.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
So it's straya Black.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
It's s t r A y A black, b l
A c K And you can find me on all
social media platforms.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
How do you get the ie sound in the way
you spell your word though? Because I spelled a stray ya.
How do you get straya out of that? How do
y'all work that out? We'll talk off. I thought you
gonna say fuck you my kite. Okay, now next when
will we Scott? We find you good Derek, Derek Kenan.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Where you can find me at the liquor store purchasing
a bottle of some of rocks so that Puffy does
not be upset with me, and or you can financial
local police station telling somebody I usually tell Tuesdays and Thursday.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
This day, it's this day's line up cousin Derek.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
On Instagram, on Facebook, it's damn. I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
He couldn't even say it, dereuse, I don't I damn
it don't want Buffy to find me. But it's cousin there.
We family, buff. I love you, dog. I ain't said
you did nothing that would Keith, that.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Keep Keeth dealing them, keeping there, keeping him.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Well.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
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Speaker 6 (33:02):
We want to love to know.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
That we but don't go back and talk about it, don't. Hey, y'all,
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I see y'all later.
Hm, who y'all ready, let's go well, so missus, Michael
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Trust kidding now old he ain't ready for the star
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Dinner on your job and your brother, I mean has
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Michael Taus said, everybody I call Michael Taus. Had everybody
like to call, yes, Michael Tausa.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Everybody you know what shin called?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Michael Tuck said, everybody I called Michael Taush, everybody Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
To say my body, everybody, everybody don't call ha Yes boy,
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That's coming up show. But we talked to everybody on
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Also a one of the hosts Mike Caye Morning Show
and the awesome cousin Derek. That's right, Derek Keen. I've
been doing comedy for about one hundred and fourteen years
and he's only forty three. But he's fabulous and that
both here. Welcome to the show, both of you guys.
So the topic today is Tupac. Tupac is dead. Okay,
(02:12):
we know that part, at least we think it is
some people still see sightings. People still see too. I
saw I saw Tupac at the seven eleven on Crenshawn
for the third you know, uh, people are still seeing him.
But he hit them on. He hit him on. He
was a friend of mine, not a great friend. I
never been to his house, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I didn't even have a phone him. But we would talk.
He would come to Venice Beach and see me do comedy.
He would try to instigate some time. You know, he
tried to get me and other comics to you know
what they call it signifying when you talk about each
other playing a dozen. But he wouldn't personally do that
with you. You ain't gonna play a dozens with Tupac,
but he'll get you another person to play a dozen.
(02:50):
And he loved to laugh. He loved the joke. And
anybody who know him, who knew him at all, knew
he was like a kid man. He's like that young
brother of yours you wish you had, who was impulsive, funny, smart,
you know, and in your face it's gonna be who
he was gonna be. So he's a great guy. He
was a great guy. And we lost him as terrible.
We lost him in ninety six to a murder. And
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I understand or I hear tell or I read I
saw somewhere that they arrested a guy and charged him
with the murder.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Keithy D.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Is his name? Keithy waitman say, yeah, that's he got
an official name.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
No, Keithy D.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
What they call him? You know, keith D If you're sexy,
you know. But oh wow, this is mugshot and everything.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Dwayne in treble, his trouble is.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Trouble is his official name he has. Oh way, he's
evolved into who he really is. Then, okay, so his
name is Dwayne Keith Oh that's where the Keithy D
come from. Dwayne Keith Davis has been indicted in connection
with the nineteen ninety six murder of rapper to Box
chakol Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Also a great guy. He also goes by in eight
zero six. He got a name.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
He got to come here, boy, you got.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Little?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Didn't anyone know that it is this incident right here
that would ultimately lead to the retaliatory shooting and the
death of Tupac. They said they're talking about the attack
on his friends. What was his friends? Or his cousin.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
The Tupac and then beat up was a Orlando. It
was a It was a gang member, Orlando. I can't
remember his last name, Orlando Anderson. It was after the
Mike Tyson fight in Las Vegas, and Tupac.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Was really full of energy that night. He was looking for.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Trouble and he looked over and saw Orlando and said,
isn't that the game member or the dude that stole
your cousin stuff?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Let's get him? And then Tupac, I hold you up.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
He was cocky, he was having fun, he's pumped up,
he was high. But I'm not gonna say he was
looking for trouble because that's not who Tupac was. Tupac
never went looking for trouble.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Now that nigga went looking for trouble, Okay.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Continue, I'm done. He went looking for it because he
was a He thought he went this for one first.
You could see in the video, there's clear evidence video straight.
I don't know if you've seen it where Tupac is
leading the charge looking for the Orlando fella, which he's
(05:30):
now deceased, and you've seen Shug huffing and puffing running
behind Pop trying to keep up with him. He led
the charge that night to retaliate, and and and what
what they thought is that, you know, they would just
jump on the guy and they would be over with
Tupac should have stayed in this room that night. But
afterwards he got in the car with shug get down
(05:50):
the street, hit the trip. Yeah, they hit the strip
and across the street from where we now know that
Florid lives.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Hold up a second before we talk about this, let's
talk about that bitch ass ship where somebody punched you
in the face and you have to retaliate by killing
them with a gun. What happened to fighting? What happened to?
Somebody pitched you off? You stand toe to toe with
a man. And let's let's take this what happens, Let's
take this outside. What happened to? I put this on
(06:17):
my shoulder. I dare you to knock it off. I
put a line on the ground. Step over there, I
dare you. How do we go from that to the
first time you insult me or hit me, I have
to take your life.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It was twelve, y'all.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
It was twelve, And I don't care how you feel
about twelve.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, no history.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I'm sorry, and know you's so funny kind of made
me stop about what I was about to say. I
think that the people don't know how to take an
ass whipping, like back in the day, whether you win
to lose, it's so much pride and stuff or you know,
like I said growing up, you know you like you
(07:01):
win some you lose something, but you live to see
another day.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
And people are afraid of an ass whooping.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Let me tell you something. I had my hand whooped
in the neighborhood and it was fine. I have my
ass whooped in the locker room, it was fine. I've
never had my ass whooped in public, and I'm gonna
tell you right now, I know that wouldn't be fine
because if everybody watched me getting my ass whip, and
then they everybody got to take a shot.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
It can be Jack Daie's or Cod forty five. You
got to take a shot. You're not gonna whoop me.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
But see, I wouldn't even think about that. It's so
interesting how people really care about what other people think
about them, what they saw happen. You know, I'm that cat.
If I'm carrying my groceries and I fall down the
bad groceries go everywhere. I'm not looking around to see
who the hell saw me for. I'm trying to pick
up the my raunches in that car and the milky shit.
You know, but I'm not. I mean, everybody's not the
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same way. But if I get my assick, I don't
care if it's in public or in private. I got
my ass kicked, and I'm mad about that. But I
want to come back at you like you came and me.
I don't want you to punch you in the face
and then I shoot you in a face that's not
that's not face. Bullshit, bullshit.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, the coward always lives to tell, to tell no.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
So it seems like.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Someone dies and you find out the truth twenty five
years or better, it takes twenty five years for the truth.
Seems like that's any American.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Story for real.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
So like you gotta die, wait twenty five years and
then the truth comes out.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Well that's probably what Keithy was thinking. He was thinking,
fuck it, I can go and kill him now because
they didn't come out for twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Hey, listen here, Keithy be told on himself.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
I have never seen anybody do so many interviews where
they tell about how they were at the scene of
the crime and just rattle it off and say Tufac
looked like he was breakdance and trying to get the
back seat.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
This is what the man is saying in interviews.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So his mouth, Hey listen, I'm glad they got him
and now got him in trouble. His mouth got him
in trouble. And old budd Australia. I wore my I
wore my Love hoodie today. You see you see that
for you? He is wearing a Love sweatshirt. Can we
(09:23):
all get along.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I don't want no smoke with Brother Love, regardless of
whether he's affiliated, associated or not.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
I don't want no smoke with Brother Love because.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Love tough.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Daddy.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Mister mister, I said, look a mister, me and Taylor
ran out the club. Yeah, mister, you can have your
publishing back after twenty five thirty years.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I ain't gonna need it where I'm going, mister mister,
Take that. Take that. Take that. I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
But I keep telling people if he was able to
I mean allegedly, if you was able to hide it
and cover it or whatever people are saying up till
twenty something years ago. Just imagine what he's gonna do now.
When anything happens, it's three sides. Sides to a story.
It's on your side, their side, and the truth. So
do you know how many people that were was there
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that night in different stories that's been told.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I do, I know. I know who was saying he
was there with a telescope.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
He was watching, Puffy was watching from a distance, watching anybody.
No one's saying that Puffy's behind anything, are we Oh it's.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yes, they are.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Allegedly he put out a one million dollars allegedly Puffy
if you watch it, if you're listening, Allegedly he put
out a one million dollar hit on who on Park.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Wait wait, hold up, okay, this is news to me.
You're saying that allegedly. Let me see because everything that
leg just usually pops up on the internet. And you're
saying he put out a million.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Fifty put a meme today.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
It's so funny because today fifty cent put a meme
and was like, brother, Love, you better find some lawyers.
And it's so funny, And anybody didn't know fifty cent
he says, you know a radical things.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
But it's like, did he just say that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Well, he said it because he was one.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
He was trolling Buffy about a month ago, controlling him,
and he was talking about he was talking. He was
really you know, he's telling the truth because it has
always been alleged that Puff Daddy had something to do
with this. Now I am not calling that man no killer.
What I am calling him is someone who pays people
(11:38):
to do something that he don't want to do. I
at my apartment, well I don't take out my trash.
Somebody come buy and do it.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
But I got the ham that's crazy. So here it
says a La detective, this Greg Carding, and who handled
the case back in two thousand and six. He came
to the conclusion that did he put a one million
dollar hit on both two Block and Sugar Night.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
And guess what?
Speaker 5 (12:02):
And Keithy d is telling everything now and since he
locked up, I'm pretty sure Keithy gonna take Puffy. It'll
be Keithy, Puffy, Stuffy, all of them down at jail
house pretty sovil.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
What I don't I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Even think it'll I don't even think it'll go as
far as what people think.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I just don't.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
I mean, it's been so long like this is something
it's been so long. It's so many versions of the
truth at this point, it's so many versions of life.
It's so many versions of everything. That's something that they've
been going in for years, the East Coast, West Coast.
It's so many layers to that situation that people won't know. Now,
(12:41):
we'll all spectate you to have her own personal opinions,
but it's so much stuff that.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
We do not know.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
I can tell you how you get to the bottom
of it. I tell I tell you exactly how you
get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
How do you do that?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Get Keithy d in a room. You get keithyd in
a room, you put a microphone in front of said
and go.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
He would ever tell you something? I wouldn't want to.
I wouldn't want to do nothing with Keithy.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Not around him.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Oh no, And he ain't gonna tell it that day.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
You can't do nothing around it. You can't smoke dope
on the side with him. You you can't cheat with
another woman, you can't do another stuff.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I'm sorry, go ahead, no old, Oh listen, he done
got to the point where he's so old.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
He's just telling it because he don't think nothing. Old
people don't think nothing.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
But he ain't that old. He's only sixty. Look, I'm
sixty six. You're not telling me that sixty year old.
It's old.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
He's sixty and he's not old.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
He's just a new form of a snitch, that's it.
I mean, he just a new form. It's a new
form of snitching. Because everybody that was kind of there
is like that. So of course he's like, now I
can tell whatever I want to tell.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
We were gonna come right back and talk more about
this today. As you know, we're talking about they finally
found somebody to put the blame on for killing Toothpocket.
Looked like he might even be the guy. If he
ain't the guy, he know the guy because he's there
next to the guy, and he's all the guy. Anyway,
this boy and talks so much, he didn't got itself
in a bit of a sticky wicked and fifty cent
ways in he says, uh, time to lawyer up? He
(14:12):
says to did he time to lawyer up? Shit might
get sticky. We'll be right black. It's Michael talked to everybody.
We'll see in a minute, and we're black. I mean
(14:32):
we're back, Yo. It is Michael talked to everybody today.
We're talking about this guy who got arrested, Keithy D. Dwayne,
Keevy D. Davis. A few weeks after the arrest and
the connection the murder of the nineteen ninety six murder
of rapper two Bucks, you called fifty cent has name dropped.
Sean Diddy comes and implied that he was involved in
(14:54):
the infamous murder. What do you think? Do you think
did he was involved in this or not? One of
you at a time you think straight up? Ladies, First,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I have I have my own you know.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
You said it's three sides, Which one can you give us?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
The one where she was at puffy party. That's why
she don't want to say that Puffy party. And she
was over there smoothing up the puffy so she don't
want to say nothing. He said, I've been in the party,
like I'm doing serious, I've been in the party with
Puff Diddy. I want to say two, two, three times.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I mean hell of a party.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I've walked in where he's literally stood at the door
and waved his hand like this, and that means that
he's paying for the entire club at the party, and
this is in New York City. Like, so he's He's
definitely one of those guys. And I've witnessed it, like
with my own two.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Eyes watching how Diddy how he moves and stuff, and
it's just yes, like I mean, then he beat the
guy up with Then he beat the guy up with
a champagne bottle. Once it was a it was another
musical artist. It was who was doing something. He walked
into his office and hit him with a champagne bottom.
They beat him up. Did that happened? I'm okay, allegedly too,
(16:11):
It's alleged here. This is a month, this is a show.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
And man, then he hasn't be done a whole lot,
and he is implicated in a lot, and he's always
found a way to slip and slide out of the
grips of the justice system. But let me tell you something, man,
you can only run but so much. And I'm not
saying that that he did it. What I am saying
is that if they keep tull of your name, at
(16:36):
some point, you don't have to us. And so you know,
I'm just I'm grateful that we even had Tupac for
twenty five years. The fact that this man like to
that impactful in tw I've been here for forty three
and it ain't accomplished.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
What was he doing accomplished ship?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Wait a minute, I ain't.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Same area of it.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
You know this is this is very interesting.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I'm really gonna follow this story because I want to
find out exactly what happens. I want to know how
much they're going to uh lean on brother Keify to
see what he knows. And one thing that I do
know is that sug Knight has always maintained that he
would never tell what he saw that night. He won't
tell who he's and it is a form of snitching
(17:23):
when you tell it. But let me tell you something.
If you shot at me, it ain't snitching. I'm telling
what I saw. That's snitching is oh I was in
on it, and in order for me not to get
in trouble, I'm gonna tell on you that snitching.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I just think snitching is telling anything. I think snitching
is telling anything you ain't got. You ain't gotta be
in on it. If you saw it and you told it,
your ass snitched.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I'm a citizen. I'm a regular citizen.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Oh so I'm in a report. You wasn't snitching, You
just spoke.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's right. Hey, let me tell you something.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
If I saw somebody do something that either one of
you and you said, you're standing in the rain, and
if I go, I don't snitch on nobody.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Did Brady the room beat your ads beat yours?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
And that's it?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
I agree with you, Michael.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I think it's still a new It's just another form
of telling you dirty rat.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
So who is this? Keepy d though? That's what waner?
Who is he? Have we heard of him at all
before he started flapping his gums And that's.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
What I'm saying. He's a nigga.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Who I mean, you gotta call him a nigga. No,
that's a nigga for you. That's who waited to all
this shit happens. And then oh, yeah, this is what happened.
Like I said, everybody that was around is kind of
dead or put in places work. Like you said, it's
nothing to untold story. I mean, Tupac was so influential
(18:53):
to the culture. I mean dn now because if you
know his upbringing, he was raised by you know, mom,
who was a black panther and you know, things like that.
But he was so influential to the people that he
has a real strong influence on us. So we still watch, well,
we say, we still say stuff like me mcavelly, he
coming back twenty years like, that's why he would, you know,
(19:15):
Michael said. Earlier people say they seen him at the
store and things like that.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
So I don't know. It's so many layers to this.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And here they say as far back as nineteen ninety eight,
Dwayne Keith Davis was telling the cable Tell that he
was a front seat passenger in the car from which
a fellow pastor fired the shots that killed Tupac. So yeah,
even if he didn't do it, he should do a
little tab for snitching. No, if you roll with him,
(19:43):
how you gonna ride with him? Then go back and
tell you.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well, let me tell you they say it's not snitching
if they did.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
T I is famously known for having a conversation with
his deceased cousin about whose guns it was in the car,
and because the cousin was deceased, t I said, my
cousin said, tell him it's mind.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
That wasn't snitching.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
T I was just.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Letting his cub and take he was already dead.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, ain't nobody gonna get hurt on that one. I
thought you just gonna try to say that t I
was snitching. We don't. We ain't gonna do that.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
This story, it's already dead except for Keify and Puffy
I mean Keithy.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
And so yeah, it makes what I said, It makes it,
I mean, you making what I'm saying even more true.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Here's how they got this. I'm sorry, I'm like, here's
how they got to this. Keithy d is a member
of the South Side Crypts. Tupac was hanging out with
what is known as a blood gang member, which would
be Sugar Night. Now, Tupac was never necessarily in a gang,
but he was just affiliated. And so that that is
(20:53):
how puffect yo. If you, if I'm on shoot, that
you is gonna be a rival gang. And that's what
Puff I mean or whoever high. I gotta stop saying
that man name fold something come back like, yeah, quit.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So what I think is the allegations because I'm not
saying he did it because I love brother love.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
That's why I wore my hoodie because I love love.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So I love love so wait, so this guy is
supposed to be only witness, and that's weird too, that
nobody else saw anything. He's the only he is the
only suspect in the case who's still alive. Uh. Davids
has said in a memoir. You know, he wrote a memoir,
So this is all about him. Get that damn book off.
That he's one of two living witnesses, with the other
(21:40):
being a record label boss who's now driving, who was
driving Shakur.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Hey, man, I was in the hood once.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I was in the hood once, go ahead, and.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
A dude shot somebody, and he looked at her and said,
who start something?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
All of us? You see what all of us?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Something happened to this day, I still don't know who
got shot. Okay, let's let's ask this question. Is it
okay to snitch under the right circumstances or are there
correct circumstances where it's okay to snitch.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
On all of them? It's okay to snitch.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
I don't agree with that.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I'm hey, that's good, that's hey. I'm not gainst at all.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
There ain't nothing about me to say thug life, thug passion.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I'm a reporter, I'm a podcast, I talk, I do
not do. I don't do no time, I don't do
no crime. And so it's not snitching. From a citizen standpoint,
it is not snitching. Snitching sounds sneaky. Snitching don't sound
like you, yeah, sound back. It don't sound like you
(22:50):
standing on somebody's face, say he did it. It sounds
like some shit you call. Well, you know Ricky did that.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
You know you got crime stoppers in your neighborhood, and
so listen. One of my clans, I was riding down
the street. I saw his face on a billboard, and
I went to a local restaurant where they got to
two for twenty five. I'm not saying their name because
we ain't getting no money for it. So you can
see two people twenty five dollars. When I seen him
in that restaurant, I picked up my mother phone out
(23:15):
like hello, crumbsuppers, I see. I don't think that niche.
I think that's paying your bills. Because there was a
twenty five hundred dollars reward out for that feller.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
We got a guy we like around here. A lot
of gangsters and rappers don't like him. Charles, what's his name?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
We bring on me always.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Charlie Charles Charles, Charleston Aston White Charleston Wright White says,
I'm snitching right now, do some shit in my neighborhood.
By the time you finished doing it, I've already told him.
He said, I don't like them, none of the people
to do bad shit in my community. I don't care
if they rappers, gangsters or what I'm telling and I'm
telling it out loud. What do you think is there
(23:55):
a correct time to snitch, stray up?
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Telling?
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Okay, so telling if someone warms a young person, or
telling if.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
You know you're affecting the community.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Telling if you're doing something that's harmful, that's not snitching.
But snitching is telling if you saw something meaning like
if you saw a robbery.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
And you told, oh, yeah, that was the dude in
the red that's okay.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Wait, what's the difference, Derek, in snitching and telling.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
I went to the clinic once because I had VD
and they asked me only only once. They asked me,
who have you been with? And when I told her,
the girl called me and says to you, I.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Was hell not do you answer Astraya, because you put
that out there, astrail You answered what's the difference in
snitching and telling. I don't know what's the difference.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I mean the example that I gave, I mean to me,
it depends on the crime in the situation. And I
know that sounds fucked up, but it is again depending
on the crime in the situation. If you do a
drive by and you kill another killer and you tell,
that's not snitching to.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Me, I think I think it depends like if I
saw you smoking with and you was supposed to be,
I'm not snitching.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
There's nothing to tell.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
On if if if somebody, if somebody saw nothing. I
want to post this to both of you, and I'm
not putting this on you, but if you if somebody
saw a person murder someone really close to you and
they got away, would you not want them to tell?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Would you not want them? Would you would do?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Are you going to live by that no snitching policy
because we don't snitch der.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I just told you I'm too gangst that I think
I would turn into an action.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I found a difference. I found a difference. I went
to a definition, and I found a difference in snitch
and telling. Here's the difference to secretly tell that's snitching
is to secretly tell, to tell it out loud, and snitching.
You ain't sneaking around. Snitch. You saying out loud what
(26:15):
you saw happen. To secretly tell someone in authority that
someone else had done something bad, often in order to
cause trouble. She thought he was snitching.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Where did you get your definition from? This is what
I want to know.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
This is the English Dictionary, the Cambridge Dictionary, under the
word snitch. White.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Folks, look, let me tell you what I miss. Danger
like we have, you can't tell it ublically is you
might come up missing.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So you're telling someone Snitching, snitching or tattling is telling
on someone when the situation is safe and does not
require an adult to be involved. So you sneaking around
to do the snitching. You ain't just going out because
so to me, Charleston White doesn't snitch. Charleston White tells
if you do some shit, I'm telling on your heads.
(27:03):
I'm telling on you. Ooh, and Mama come home. I'm
telling on you. That ain't snitching. But if when Mama
come home, you ain't told him, you're telling and you tall, Mama,
you know who's spilled that sugar that was Charlene did that,
that's snitching.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Go ahead, No, I was just about to say, I mean,
in our culture, we're talking if you tell too much,
like put out that damn telling telling telling, you know,
so to a certain extent, It's like certain things that
are allowed in our culture that other things we just.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Don't talk about.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
I would like to go on record in our culture
around me.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I am not I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm
not gonna snitch. Ain't that nigga?
Speaker 5 (27:47):
But I tell yes, this is honestly God truth. This,
Oh my God, perfect example. This is honest god truth.
Something happened between me and a other comedian where a
girl said that she that he raped her. Now, this
is a true story, and I will never forget. I
was sitting in the Guardian airport and Detective Jones of
(28:09):
the North Carolina Police Department called me and said, hey,
do you know what we called?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I said I should do. This is what happened. She said,
we need you to come back.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
I said, I'm not coming back. I told you everything
I said. And he called me right after. He said, hey, man,
how you doing. I said, they looking for you. They're
definitely looking for you. He said, what you tell him?
I said everything I knew. He said, why would you
do that? I said, because I didn't do nothing, and
I'm not going down for this.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
This is your deal.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
You And in the end, because I told the truth,
he didn't get in trouble because I didn't see him
do nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
So that ain't that ain't snitching, that's telling.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Oh, that's telling Michael. So we can't do ship in
front of Derby, No.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Because he gonna tell it. Don't schnitching is going if
we even know he in the room. Mom's the word zibit? Okay,
all right? Why do people snitch? Lack of trust in
the police department? Now, people snitch so they can get
some attention. And let me ask this part of it.
If he sat there talking about the situation and he
was in the front seat, why didn't he say the
(29:23):
name of the killer? If he's sitting in the car
with the guns being shot for he told everybody I
was in the front seat at the front seat view,
how come he's not saying who the killer is?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
That's what I'm saying. It's so many layers to this story.
It's so many fucking layers to this story. It's so many,
you know, questions that are still being asked. You know
that never was asked twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Okay, So we had to wrap it up because we
didn't want overtime. Almost here talking about by the damn
schmitch snitch. Don't got that much tam coming, okay, KEVD.
I know he gonna walk up to me somewhere and say, man,
your work Okay anyway, Oh.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
My god, I bet he's gonna tell everybody.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
He telling everybody's guy. I need him around so I
can get more numbers because he gonna tell everybody. Hey,
all right, Well, well whatever happens, I hope they come
out with a positive result. I'm glad for Tupac's family.
That looks like it might be some type of closure
or something that looks like it, you know, because they
have someone to take a blame it on, you know.
(30:27):
So that's that's a good that's a good start. That's
all we can say about this. It's fine, you study.
I don't know if Tupac, I don't know if not
Tac ain't behind it, cause he did. I don't know
if he did, he his behind it. I don't know
if he had anything to do with it. I don't
know none of that stuff. We're making no claims on
this show. All we saying is question nitch and shout
(30:47):
the fuck up manual business. Uh. And we want to
watch this case very closely because I love Tupac and
then then I do now he is one of the
greatest influences on hip hop in the history of the world.
We need to honor him and you know, and hope
for the best possible result. Straight Black. Tell people when
they can find you, well.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
With us been in the month of November. My birthday
is November nineteen.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Well, they can always find me on cash up, Zenmo, PayPal,
gas stations, food stamps, that anything that they want.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
To woo woo woo. What's your cash aft though, Jessic gaate,
they might have a couple of dollars.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
So it's straya Black.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
It's s t r A y A black, b l
A c K And you can find me on all
social media platforms.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
How do you get the ie sound in the way
you spell your word though? Because I spelled a stray ya.
How do you get straya out of that? How do
y'all work that out? We'll talk off. I thought you
gonna say fuck you my kite. Okay, now next when
will we Scott? We find you good Derek, Derek Kenan.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Where you can find me at the liquor store purchasing
a bottle of some of rocks so that Puffy does
not be upset with me, and or you can financial
local police station telling somebody I usually tell Tuesdays and Thursday.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
This day, it's this day's line up cousin Derek.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
On Instagram, on Facebook, it's damn. I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
He couldn't even say it, dereuse, I don't I damn
it don't want Buffy to find me. But it's cousin there.
We family, buff. I love you, dog. I ain't said
you did nothing that would Keith, that.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Keep Keeth dealing them, keeping there, keeping him.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Well.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Folks. I'm Michael Cay. Y'all know where to find me
either here three days a week at iHeart Michael talks
to everybody, or my morning show five days a week
was Try You're Black is my co host every day
Monday through Friday. Michael talks to air bodies here on Wednesday,
and the Morning Show Monday through Friday on YouTube. So
(32:56):
you have many opportunesdays to miss me and why you
pointed the word love, Derek. You send because we love love.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
We want to love to know.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
That we but don't go back and talk about it, don't. Hey, y'all,
that's it. We get out of here. We have more
shows to do today. God is great and you ain't
too bad yourself. Remember, do something good for somebody besides
yourself today and see if your day don't turn all
the way around for you. I'll catch you on the
next one. Michael, talk to everybody. I'll be right here. Woo.
(33:30):
I had a good time today. I hope y'all did too. Man,
Thank y'all for checking us out here. Michael talks to everybody. Hey,
you can follow me, man, I'm easy to follow. I'm
on Instagram just under act Michael kaya I'm on TikTok.
That's Michael Kye one three five. I have a very
sexety web page called the Real Michael Kaye dot com.
You know, you go over there, you find out buy
my merchandise and what I'm doing and with all my shows.
(33:52):
Our everything is right there. Or if you really love me,
you can go to my cashapp. That's dollar Sign Michael
kaya's money playing with y'all, but I accept green sem
foods and Canadian money. I'll take your bus transfer if
it's got some time left on it. And my morning show,
oh my goodness, Michael Goya Morning Show. That's seven eight
in Pacific time, YO, five days a week. This has
(34:14):
been a ray Lock Group production.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
I see y'all later.
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