July 18, 2022 • 47 mins
In a special edition of the podcast, Midnight Chats comes to you from a park wall Barcelona where Squid singer and drummer Ollie Judge and Stuart Stubbs talk about NFTs, dodgy merch, Primavera Sound, riders and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
We're getting some good ambience.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's good.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Man on bike. Well keep that it was child crying
quick keep that in. Hello and welcome to Midnight Chats,
a podcast of informal interviews with musicians we love, posted
weekly at midnight to suit these very casual conversations. This
week's episode is hosted by me Stuart Stubbs, the editor
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of Loud and Quiet magazine. Episode one hundred and nineteen
of the podcast has got a bit of a different
feel to previous ones. It was recorded earlier this year
in June twenty twenty two in Barcelona. I was out
there for Primavera Sound, as was my guest Ollie Judge,
the drummer and singer of Bristol based band Squid. We
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were there at the festival. I've been there for a
good week. We were out there covering it. We're a
partner of that festival. We go every year. We have
a lovely, lovely time and we tried to meet up
with a couple of bands each time and interview them.
We've done a couple of podcasts there before and then
normally quite hastily put together Angel Olsen episode which was
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a long time ago. Now it's still out there. If
you'd like to go and find it, just go back
through the feed. That was recorded at Prima Berea, but
it was in a very busy lobby, hotel lobby where
all the bands stay, so the sound quality wasn't great
for this one. I had an idea of Ollie and
myself walking along the seafront, walking along, picking up the
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sounds of the sea and the ambiance of a lovely Barcelona.
And then we got there and the weather was beautiful,
but there was still too much wind down actually on
the sea for us to do that and for it
to be audible. So what we did was we sat
on a park bench. As you're about to hear, there
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was a park near our hotels. Our hotels were very
close to each other. We met outside the one I
was staying in. We walked to the park and we
recorded this. Has it worked as an experiment, I'll let
you be the judge of that, I'd be interested to know,
so feel free to dm us on Instagram at Loud
and Quiet mag if you have an opinion on it.
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The idea was that you would get a sense of
place and it wouldn't just be two voices in a
very still room. We thought we'd make the most of
being in such a lovely environment, so that was what
we were going for. So it does sound a little
bit different, but I very much enjoyed talking to Olie.
I've met him a fair few times before. In fact,
we featured Squid on the cover of Loud and Quiet
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last year when their debut album Bright green Field came out,
and I photographed the cover feature, which is not something
I do. I'm not a photographer, but there were lockdown restrictions.
It's a long, boring story that I won't go into now,
but in men I had to photograph cover myself. I
think I did all right. I think I did okay.
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I didn't embarrass myself too much. There's a link below
this episode to that cover interview. There's also a link
to the mittens that I bemoan for a lot of
this episode, the Loud and Quiet gloves that we've made
and are selling like shit sandwiches, And there's maybe a
few other links down there. I'll see what I can
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dig out. Ollie and I talk about NFTs, we talk
about prima er itself, religion, warp records, and there is
towards the end of the conversation a few kind of
little hints that maybe what the new Squid album is
going to sound like. Perhaps. Thank you for listening. If
you enjoy it, please do tell a friend. That's the
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thing that we're really trying to get people to do
at the moment. Tell a mate, go back, listen to
some of our old ones. If this is your first
time here, spread the word. We want as many people
to listen to Midnight Chats as possible, obviously, and if
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but more importantly, just tell someone Okay, thanks very much.
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This is episode one hundred and nineteen. Myself, Ollie Judge
from Squid sat on a park bench in Barcelona. So
this is nice.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It is very nice.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Set the scene. Set the scene for us. Where we
are right now.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
We are just in your garden, I think if you're
your hotel room.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah it's huge, isn't it. Yeah, big park with a
massive structure in the lake. Yeah, we're in a park
that it's quite a It feels like the sort of
park that might be in Blade Runner to me, really well,
you know, like this over here feels like quite futuristic,
but in an eighty very eighties waye. It looks like
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there's a disused sort of roller coaster.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
European Runner.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, European plays Runner here. So I had an idea
for this, which was that we were going to have
a romantic walk along the beach while we record this podcast,
Dane Low kind of style exactly. Instead we're sat next
a very unhappy child. But it's so windy down there.
We've come to this park. We have a premium erous sounds.
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You're playing today today, Caught to eight, drove in last yesterday? Yes, yeah,
and this is your first time playing it?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, second time playing in Spain. It's very nice, it's
very relaxing.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
It's really hot. It's about twenty five is in the morning.
It's about twenty fives already. How are you in the heat?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I'm terrible in the heat. I usually burn. Yeah. I've
asked you to bring some cream.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, happy to, happy to for the talent. Got to
keep the talent.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I'm not very good in the heat.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, I go red, come monster, and you're so. Our
hotels are just over there. What's what's your hotel.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Like, well, we've got a rooftop pool which is pretty
it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
That's pretty swanky.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Goldie staying in there as well. Yeah, I saw him
in the morning. Yeah, it's pretty good. Good breakfast as well. Yeah,
fresh fruit, it's very nice.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Did you take anything away from breakfast? I don't. They
don't like it, I've found out. But have you really? Yeah, well,
our hotels are sign do you not steal as a
sign saying please eat the food here and leave, do
not take it with you? Really, no one's paying attention
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to that sign. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It's really handy when you're going for a drive the
next day when you've got to drive to another gig
because you just make a sandwich.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
In the morning, you have to get a lunch in
the way. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, this morning, it's just purely purely breakfast on site.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah. And your day. So your day, now, how does
that look? Because you're playing around like between seven and eight,
aren't you around a half seven ish?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So I've got to be there at like five, So
do this have a coffee, get back to the pool, yeah,
might go for a swim beach.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Do you tend to get nervous before a show, and
if so, how many how many hours before the show
do you start to think about it?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I think, like pre Lockdown, I never used to get nervous,
but nowadays I get quite nervous for gigs.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Mainly like headline shows. I think. So it's like, you
know that all.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
These people have bought tickets see you, so that that's
what's made That's that's the difference since Lockdown?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Is it because you're you're aware of the fact that
Is it because you're aware of that everyone's had a
miserable time and they're now there for a good time.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
No, it's more like you know, like people have come
see you play, like they haven't. You're not like supporting
anyone or like it's kind of all about squid and
you just want to put on a good show.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I think, yeah, I think that's the nerve wrecking thing.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
We've got so much on stage now it kind of
takes at least like two hours to set up. So
when you get to a festival, you've got half an
hour set up with gongs.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
How many gongs are we talking now?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
We've wheeled it down to one that used to be two.
It was it was a hard bargain, but I think it.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Had to be to leave a gong behind. Well, tonight,
you're on a stage. You've not been to the site before,
have You're not? You're on what most people consider the
best stage. Oh great, Yeah, it's the stage that paved.
We're in the second week right now, and last weekend
Pavement played on the first night and they wanted to
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play the stage you're playing. They weren't allowed because it's
a bit smaller. It's it's a bit smaller, but it's
it's big. I don't want to add to your nerves,
but it's absolutely massive and everyone's expectation is really high
because it's the best one. So I will they will
let you know if they don't know. It's it's kind
of a bit like an amphitheater, so like there's these
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steps that seat slash steps that kind of wrap around it. Yeah,
it's yeah, it's the one that it's the one.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So yeah, I heard it.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
You've gone straight in at that one because I think
people normally work.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, I heard it was in the ray band stage
maybe before. Yeah, it's quite upsetting. So I just lost
my three ray bands.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Though against me.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You used to get you did used to get three
ray bands I think for playing it. But now well
now it's sponsored by a car company.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Great, So there's an NFT stage as well, it's there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I think we saw a Black Country the other day
and they said they played on the NFT stage.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Oh hey, that explains what that stage is. It's called binance,
I think. I think I keep calling it bit fake,
but I think it's called finance. And there are certain
stages or the stages are sponsored, and there's someone I'm like,
I know what that company is, Like there's an Estrella stage,
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but there's someone I don't. I don't know. I don't
actually know what that thing is.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Something like kind of Nathan Barley.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Okay, so that's an I mean, where where do then
a squid done an NFT.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Not yet, Well we'll see how it pans up.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, where where do you stand on the n FT?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I stand on the kind of I have no idea
what they are, what it is, and yeah, I mean
I'm only twenty seven, but it makes me feel ancient ancient.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, with things like that, I do feel I should
try to engage with it and know what it is. Yeah,
so I don't turn into like an old grumpy man
that thinks that the past was better than Yeah, but
it's hard. I know, It's just it's hard to have
the energy to do it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I kind of think back to like when things are invented,
like say bluetooth like headsets. I used to see people
walking around like talking to themselves and be like, oh god,
it's that what the future is going to be. It's
it's the kind of the same with NFTs. Kind of
don't get it now, but like maybe in five years.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well, I'm surprised they've I'm surprised they are taking that
that's still here. I thought it might be a month long,
a few months, like, well this is nonsense. Yeah, but
it's big money, isn't it? What you send on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I've got a downloaded on my phone.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, I never go on it because I'm worried about
getting dragged into it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I spend a lot of time on social media, and
I think that would just be the tipping point I've
gotten if I gotten TikTok.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But what one do you waste the most amount of
time on?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Probably Instagram kind of leaning over into Twitter nowadays as Yeah,
quite like that and is this the band account or
your own account band account? Yeah, yeah, got a bit
more purchase with the people actually.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Respond yeah, yeah, well we've got on Twitter, We've only
got I don't have a personal and we've got a
magazine one and I shouldn't be surprised by this anymore,
but I'm still surprised by how much people ignore or something.
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I don't ignore you guys, you don't, don't, but you know,
there'd be times I think if we're operating on free
likes from what I would consider a very good joke,
my really good stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Trim delat, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
The really the good ship, I'm getting three likes, and
I'm having to be happy with that.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Those three people, they're really.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Liking it, they're really enjoying it. On the n f
T front, as I feel like, because you're signed to WARP,
I don't know why. I just this is a sweeping statement.
I feel like that's a WARP thing.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I think Aphex Twin did one maybe a year or
two ago. But yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Very like techy.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
It's techy and your website has got I'm not going
to say an n f T feel because I don't
really know what FT is, but it's I agree, do
you know what I mean? Like, if you if you're listening,
you haven't been on the Squid's website, check it out.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Out, go on the message boards. We never we're never
on it.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
People on it when we when we release the album,
there are people on it, and I try to try
to keep engaged it, but it's pretty hard.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
How would you describe the site? How would you sell
the site? Now?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
To some it's it's like an n FT.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It's no, it's like we tried to create like a
fictional kind of city. I don't know if you're into
video games, but it looks a bit like Halo mm.
And there's some nice music on there. There's some like
secret passwords that you can put in there that take
you to take you to the websites. It's the album
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that's really proud of it.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
It's well, it reminds me of the sort of website
like websites used to be more fun than they are now.
They're all just very yeah, and they're really as included.
They're just quiet, sort about ease of use, which is
good for a user, but it kind of has taken
out any of the kind of thing of it and
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yours has got like something to it.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, I would say nice.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I mean the label for this stuff, I think, Yeah,
they're just very good. And do they just how does
that work? Do you have? Do you say that we've
got this idea for a website and they say that's fine,
well making that for you? Or do you say we're
going to do this.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
We definitely need pushing. We're kind of.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I mean, it's like just five people kind of showing
over each other. No one has like the final say,
and we're not very Yeah, we don't really know where
to look for all that stuff, so what kind of
just send us a list of stuff which is really nice?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
But yeah, we're really bad at all the artwork.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
And we've all got five different minds shouting over each other.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I think.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I think if you're styling it out, who is the
most in the band? Who is the most visually artie?
Did any of you study art?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
No that three of three studied music, one did neuroscience,
and I did I did one of those media studies.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So what did you the best?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Really? What did you did you? Is there any transferable
skills from your media studies degree? I'm not going to
be down on media studies. I know people, that's the thing,
isn't it deeper? Always Ay, that's not a degree. I
did film and drama and I studied media studies at
a level. So I'm with you. I'm in your team.
But did you is there anything that you that you
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use from that? This is that's what crap? No, it
was because I used to interview What did you learn
in your degree that you can bring to the position?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Squid Well, I used to work at record labels, so
it's actually really handy for that, and by extension, working
at record labels is really handy for being in a band.
So it's kind of like through through a few channels.
It's been it's been pretty useful.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
If you go to Brighton.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah, I went to Brighton and the rest went
to Sussex because I applied. I applied to go to
Brighton last minute. I didn't have the grades to get
in there, but I just needed one more, one more choice.
And I didn't realize that Brighton was in Sussex when
I was like nineteen. She's quite worrying, but yeah, I
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turned up to Brighton and then I knew Louis already
from from home. I turned up at a house party
and Louis was there and I was like, I thought
you were I think you're going to Union, like the
Midlands or something. Sussex. This is Sussex.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So that's that's good and I still wanted to be today.
You were saying you drove from Switzerland. Yeah, you're currently
doing a very casual tool.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, very casual.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
It's pretty it's just a holiday pretty much.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, because my my parents just sold up everything in
the UK and moved to France. So fair place the
new places in between here and where we were in Switzerland.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
So just how do were they moving out of? Was
that your childhood home?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, but it was also my dad's childhood home because
you lived there for there for like fifty five years
or something.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
That's huge, isn't it. How I was going to ask,
how do you feel about it? But I'm actually just
going to have your dad feel.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I think a lot worse than me. I think.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
He says he keeps on having like recurring dreams that
he goes into the house and then he notices that
someone else lives there, and then he asked do they discoper?
I think I'm pretty sure they're pretty happy in France.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Do you how does it feel them feeling because you're
you live in Bristol now yeah yeah, yeah, and obviously
you're quite settled there into it, into Bristol life.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I think I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, but how because my mum still lives in the
hand that I oh yeah, Ivenue, Yeah, And I don't
know how i'd feel if she suddenly Like it's quite
a big thing, isn't it when you're family at home,
if it's one, if you've had one, yeah, and then
it is no longer there and your parents have moved
to a completely different country.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I know it is.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Does it feel? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I felt kind of like a lot of people came
up to me and like, oh, you know, you're right,
how do you feel? And I was just kind of
kind of fine, to be honest, like because I haven't
really had any attachment to like Chippenham where I grew
up in a while. I've lived in Brighton and London
and Bristol, so I was kind of barely there. I
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didn't really like, I wasn't really there for like ten years,
so kind of settled more in Bristol.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, and now you can go to France and free.
So that how's your French?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
My face is dreadful, we see, Yeah, no it's dreadful.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I think I had quite a I wouldn't say traumatic,
but my French teacher at school really didn't like me.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
It was like a giddy t shoes as well shocking.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
What was can you remember the teacher's name, miss, miss Powell?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Miss Powell? What had you done?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I think my brother, who was a bit of a
bit of a troublemaker, she taught him and just kind.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Of instantly, right, that makes sense, she got the iron fist?
Was was was there? What kind of school did you
go to? Was it a nice school? Was it like
a bit of a it was just a standard.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
School, just standard standard school.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, yeah, it was your French class. We would call
it the doss subject. I don't think people use the
word us. Yeah I used dusting about it. But you
think young people use that word now? I bet they?
I bet they don't.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, thinking about it, no, it probably was. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It was like my school was quiet. I didn't necessarily
realized it at the time. It was quite a rough school. Yeah,
I could just state school, and we had we did Spanish,
we didn't do French. But Jesus Christ, poor teachers, because
it was just chaos in that lesson, And it's the
one lesson that I wish i'd actually actually replied myself. Yeah. Yeah,
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that's my regret from school. I'm terrible with because I'd
love to swing languages.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, our class once we did there was a supply
teacher and we did like every time she left the
room and came back in, we'd all fall on the
floor and pretend to be dead.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Apart from one person refused it, what classes is in French?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Subjects?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
The subject? Yeah, unsurprisingly it was the French. Okay, this
is all adding up and you would be one on
the floor.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, I think there was. Yeah, I think there was some.
I don't know, they're probably they probably lived in France
and they're probably fluent.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That's quite a good, good prank. It's a good prank
for teachers. I think if I was a teacher, which
I never would be because I'm terrified of children bullying
and having been to a school where that happens, like
I couldn't do it. I have so much respect for teachers,
But there are certain things like a story like that,
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I'd like to think.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I would be able to you'd find it funny.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Fair. I mean, did you do it every week?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Though?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
No, it was just one yeah, and then yeah, it
never happened again. I think we all got told off
quite severely.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And how does that come about? Who the one kid?
I've got this idea.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Kind of like huddle around, kind of like eighteen.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
When Miss Para walks in, We're all going to just
drop to the floor. There's one person when I'm not
doing that.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
That's ridiculous, Like I'm here to learn.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I'm around the rest of you.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
It's but you are genuinely a good student.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, I only had I got I think I got
two detentions over five years.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
That was that was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
At your school? Did they tell you that if you
get a detention it goes on your public.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, no, you need forget it. Working in McDonald's, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Those kind of It's funny how all schools have those.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Urban myths.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, I've got attention. I may as well drop out
now there's nothing for me. I've had to stay behind
for an hour. Life is over. So where are you
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in the cycle, as they call it in the industry.
There you're touring the first record store. But the first
record came out at such a weird time.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
It's kind of odd because it came out in May
last year and we did a tour of really small
venues in May. But that was just like when you
could only go and sit down at a venue.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
So you played some of those shows where people will sat.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah, it was like thirty people like every show. It
was kind of like a double whammy because it was
we hadn't played a show in like a year. I
think the first one was in It was in Falmouth actually,
which is really really nice. It was kind of we're
all incredibly nervous because we hadn't played the show for
a year and we were instead of playing stuff from
the album, we were just doing all kind of new
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stuff that we'd kind of written in lockdowns, and there
were like thirty people and you could see the whites
of their eyes in front of all sitting down. I
went to one of those shows, the London one was
actually it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Wasn't yours, No. I set myself up for that. It
was a working mental club. It was sort of no
offense to working Men's Club. It was good, but it
was it was really early on. It was before is
that like Oslo? Yeah? Yeah, and it was Alm was
allowed to even sing. There was no singing.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I think. I think some venues were pretty hot on that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, you played at church and Totness and they were
they were really hot on that. I was in that
church you went to Tea.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, has an incredible venue.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It's really great.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I saw Caroline playing there at that festival.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
That was amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
It was really good. Yeah, and Gueno played in there.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
It's funny playing in churches. Music's in no way like
Satanic or anything, but just a rock band in a church.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, it seems a little bit. It seems a bit weird.
Did you Did you grow up religious in any way?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Are you religious anymore? No?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
No, I'm I'm I'm not really, I'm not at all
even not really. Yeah, yeah, I don't really, I didn't.
I didn't even know anyone that's kind of religious. I'm
not friends with anyone that's.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I'm not religious at all, but I really respect it,
and I I wouldn't so I envy it. But I
actually mean more, I mean more religious people, more people
who are practicing religions now doing like meeting bands and
artists than I ever have really, Yeah, you know, openly
talk about that faith in a really kind of cool way,
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Whereas where I grew up, we were all a bunch
of like who were just like it's just you know,
it's not cool to like that, just be down on
that sort of thing. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I think there's still definitely yeah, that kind of feeling.
I don't know, maybe yeah, maybe you just grow out
of it kind of Yeah, I know you mean about
kind of like almost envying, envying it. It'd be nice
having something, Yeah, I don't know. It's some faith in something.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Something to fall back yeah, yeah, something to fall back
on a bit, have it in your back pop. But
it doesn't really work that way, does it. You have
to fully believe.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
There's a really good podcast called Sounds Like a Cult.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Oh that sounds great.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, and it's not it's not about actual cult. It's
about things that are quite culty. So, like there's one
on Elon Musk and it's about like the fans of
following Yeah, you can't do anything wrong. There's one on
like Peloton, I think.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Or like that Peloton is really culty it's kind of
like it's exactly like that episode of It's such a
cliche to say now it sounds like Black Mirror. That
episode of Black Mirror where kind of like an X
Factor kind of spoof. But those adverts where people are
just kind of like they've got like big screens in
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front of them and they're like, I don't know, doing
some like mad cycling competition in like they're doing like
the Tour de France something, and they're just kind of
like staring at the wall.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Like yeah, and there's and there's an instruct to say,
you've got this great work.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
We're going up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I think it's a scam, isn't it. It's Pyramid, absolutely
a scam. But they've just had a very good pandemic. Yeah,
you know, there were certain things. This is a conversation
that everyone has and probably doesn't need to be recorded
on to podcast, but I'm going to say anyway, certain
thing like QR codes had very strong pandemics.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
See the inventor of the QR codes, because.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
It was down and out, wasn't it. When was the
last time you'd used a QR? I didn't even know
if I even had I didn't even know, you could
just use your camera to no no, yeah, yeah, I
had an app. Yeah, Peloton, all the delivery companies, all
of the supermarkets, yea, all of those things just had.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
There were a lot of things that skyrocketed.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, and Peloton's one where that surely would not have
taken off without people being locked inside their houses.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
It's funny that speaking about Peloton. Before the pandemic, I
was terrified of cycling. But when you could like go
out and do some exercise and there was no one
on the roads, me and my partner just got on
bikes and.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Now I love it.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
This is in Bristol.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, it's a really nice city to cycle. So what
was it had you cycled as a kid?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I had.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
But my partner's really really really in cycling, and her
family are really in cycling.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
They've been doing it kind of all their life.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
And it was only when I started cycling with her
that I realized how petrified my parents.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Were of cycling.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
They passed. Yeah I remember me and yeah, we were
Me and my partner were around my parents' house and
we were going to cycle from Chipping into Bristol like
three hours. My mom and dad for like, yeah, just
make sure cycle on the pavement is safer. And then
and then that was like, it's way more dangerous.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
It would take forever as well, wouldn't it really would Yeah,
because you'd have to be you'd be constantly stopping for people.
And then there's bits where there's driveways. You can't just
speed over a driveway cavement. Yeah, I mean that would take. Yeah,
that's they've so they've passed on that that.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I think, so to you, it would be it'll be
interesting to hear what they think about that after they
listened to this podcast.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
So now you cycle? So now do you cycle? Did
you have you got? How into it?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Have you got?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
You got the likes?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I haven't got the like crayer.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I have thought about maybe doing some like squid squid licra,
but A, I think it would be really really expensive, yeah,
and B it's I don't know, maybe it's.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Not the best look.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I think that the jersey would be good. I guess
it depends on maybe not sure. Yeah, I think the
shorts too much to stop stop with the shorts, but
maybe this would be actually really expensing, I think, But
a squid helmet that would be good because everyone you
have to wear a helmet, whereas not everyone Oxford that
like craft.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, and yeah that would be good. I'm very I
always wear my helmet.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
And I make other people wear their helmets. So if
there was a squid helmet, that was really cool.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, I make people wear it. Well.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I had a very close call on my bike and
I wasn't wearing a helmet.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Oh, I think I listened to the you and Jason Williamson.
Is it when you Oh yeah, I think I might.
Was it when you broke, like break your back up?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, I broke a Vertebrae's fine, but I I had Yeah,
that was just just after because I was I think
when I met him, I was wearing this looked like
a bulletproof. I looked like there was like this, it's horrible.
It looked like it looked quite cool. Actually, yeah, I
actually had a meat. I went and met the team
at Warp whilst.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I had that on.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
And when I'm watching.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Your top, I'm like, it's a back brace. I've broken
my back.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
This is not a fashion Chorge techno brace.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Oh right, okay, but can I get one? But where
can I get one? But I was wearing that when
we recorded that podcast, and yeah, I wasn't wearing a helmet.
I wouldn't often wear a helmet back then, and I
landed on the road. The back of my head smacked
onto the road and I had to go. I was
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rushed hospital and they didn't know about the backup, and
they were mostly concerned about my head, but I was.
I was in a lot of pain. But I was
also so embarrassed that whenever I was talking to a
doctor and they asked me, first thing was like, where
you're in a helmet? And I had to say no
every time. Yeah, And I just felt so stupid that
since that day, I've I wear it every every single time.
I don't actually preach it to others not wearing the
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helmet because I was that person and I don't want
to be that. But yeah, and I'm like, but I'm
I'm kind of glad I had that moment because now
I still you know, it did not my comments in cycling,
but it did make me think I have to always
wear a helmet is just mental.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, I kind of always wear a helmet and make
people feel guilty about it.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Where's your helmet? What's your best merch that you've that
you've delivered if you don't.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Really ship merch, Yeah, we are.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
We made some mittens recently, which I should say now
are still available, the footy ones, the the shirt's doing
really well shirts doing great. That's available for another By
the time this goes out there, it won't be avail
of anymore. But we might do another one later in
the year. But the we made some fleece mittens Loud
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and Quiet, police Smitten. They are still up make don't
buy them, I'll send yourself. They are blocking the light
out of our office. We have got so many of them.
I thought they were like a really kind of fun
novelty but useful. I mean, I like, so that's I've
misjudged literally everybody else in the world.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
But it's like classic things like when you when you
buy someone the present that you think they'll love, but yeah,
it's actually something something for you. Yeah, we want to
make ping pong bats and yeah, but we just think
we just love ping pong.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
No one else as much as this.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, maybe really.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Hard to make as well. Do you have a.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Without divulging too much trade secrets, do you have like
because you've got a really dedicated fan base who love you.
There's probably amount that by a ping pong bout. Yeah,
like they just like they want the thing. Yeah, so
you could maybe do a run. It's about working out
that number, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
It's not like they're not going to convert any kind
of people who don't listen to a band.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not going to happen
unless you do some sort of collab. Yeah, have you
done any of those? No?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I think I think that'd be good. Though, you're just
terrible emerch. We're just like stories very last minute.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
We sold them.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
We headlined dot to dot last weekend when we played
in Nottingham. We sold two T shirts.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Right, We hired someone to do merch for us in
the costume.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Do you take that rejection badly or are you okay
with just saying, hey, we tried this thing. It didn't
really work. It's not a big deal. 's move on
to next thing.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
It depends what it is, if it's if, if it's merched,
and I find it kind of funny. We sold two
T shirts.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Headliner T shirts, but yeah, t shirts. I'm fine with
that rejection. The music itself, the music itself, I guess
is a different thing. I think it's so easy to
say that we're just doing this for us, but you know,
if you want other people to enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I think I used to be quite good.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I'm getting worse.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, I think I'm definitely getting worse as well.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Why does any want these mittens that's so warm? So warm?
Come in to colors. I'm going to stop talking now,
but one last thing I will say about them. We
even when you subscribe, like for people that subscribe to
the magazine, there's even an option now for you to
opt in to get free mittens, and people are not
opting in for the free it's exactly the same price.
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It's this one. You get all of these things. And
it's when you get all these things and you get
some free mittens, and people are opting in for the
one without them. Why damning, isn't it? That is damning.
I mean, we're definitely out of the state of the world.
We're out of the season, that's for sure, and people
are probably just thinking, I don't well, I really I
really want. I'm going to I'm going to send the
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band some mittens all of you. So with the ping pong,
do you do you have a Ping Pong table in
the not necessarily on tour, but do you put it
on your rider?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
No, I don't think we're there yet, but I think
next to.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Next, next time. I don't know, see how they see
how the next album goes. Yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Do you have unusual rider requests or is it?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
No, it's all pretty standard.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Everyone has some characters. Don't really know.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
It's the industry standard.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I think is that there was something that when you're
dreaming of being in a band, you think, I can't
wait for.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Some warm, warm.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Phizy because I think I think the hummus thing is
a fairly recent developing.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, I think so as well.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Surely in the nineties it was Stellars. Yeah, bags, yeah,
I should do that. Drugs and there wouldn't be any
hummus on there, I don't think. Or no vegetables, no vegetables,
a big bowl of fruit.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
We did ask that there was a period where Arthur
got really he got really obsessed with the Gray Goose
and you know perdies, the kind of like middle class
energy change. Yeah, yeah, you got obsessed with that, and
we had that on our rider. But then we just realized,
like a bottle of gray Goose every single night. Yekind
(38:51):
of it's getting to waste? Would yeah, would you get
through that?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
No, we're very tame now. We like we just asked
for alcohol free beers.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Is that because do you do you try to stay
up to be before the show?
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah? Yeah, I find that for me.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
For me personally, it makes me really nervous to be
drunk when I'm on stage because it's from a bit pieste.
And then I make one mistake and I'll keep on
thinking about that mistake, and then I make another mistake.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
You know, I just kind of spiral. That's not fake?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Does that come from a show? Have you played a
show that's been like that's it? We can't I can't
be drinking.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
No, not really.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
It's just kind of I think we're all pretty I
think we're all pretty hard on ourselves with kind of
like just making the mistakes.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
That obviously no one not.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Do you notice when someone else on the stage makes
a mistake even though you wouldn't tell them?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, but it's also quite fun. You can if someone
makes a mistake, you can kind of style it out
with another mistake, like it was kind of planned. Almost
happens sometimes, but.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, no, no, no. If you don't tell each other
about the mistakes, you get.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Back off the show and say you were sure you
played that E instead of the F that was so embarrassing.
Everyone was laughing. I think you should probably leave the band.
When was it that you did the tour that was
working progress stuff? That was the the sit down down?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah. Did any songs come from that that are going
to be on the on the new record?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
I think I think pretty much all of them actually, yeah. Nice. Yeah,
so there will be people who when that album comes out,
will be like the forms of these Yeah, I hope.
So that's quite cool. Can they put this one on?
(40:55):
Don't hold out much hope for the rest of the
album because he is the lead single, No thanks. I
feel like we should walkch we yeah, let's do it
before let's do the same no thing. We can start
heading back. This is quite intimate now because we're kind
of tethered.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
It's very like, well, you.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Know, we've got these little Yeah, we've got these umbilical
chords going from a clip on mics to the recorder.
So don't run off whatever you're doing. Is there anything
you can say about the second record or you know,
when is this?
Speaker 2 (41:33):
When? When is this going up? Probably?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I mean not quite soon. I'd say next like four
weeks it's finished.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Yeah, it's pretty much no. Yeah, yeah, it's quite nerve wracking.
Second album?
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Are you feeling that you're feeling? Is it you're feeling
the pressure of the first one?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yea, A little bit like, yeah, everything went so well
with the first one. But yeah, I just worried about
how people receive it. But I'm sure it would be fine.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
I think it's quite nice to hear say that, because
I don't think you're meant to You're meant to say
the best, best thing, the best thing, and you know,
we don't really care anyway. We're pleased with it and
we don't really care. I mean, the first one did
the child at fourth?
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I know it's mad. Did you believe it?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Did you all go out and get smashed?
Speaker 2 (42:27):
We didn't when it charted, but when it came out
we had a massive party. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe
slightly bending the rules in may.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Okay, it's very I imagine it's very different like being
in a band at this point, not just the second
album thing, but the journey of Squid as I'd see
it would be like you were playing so much before
you sign your deal, like, yeah, there was this real
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momentum and like every show you're playing so much, and
all those shows were like really full and like it
was like incredible. And then you've got you had all
these labels onting to sign you and all these people
coming down, and you signed your deal with Warp and
then at that point, I guess you were the hyped band,
you know, the band everyone was like, it's quite squad.
(43:22):
And then your album comes out and now you're in
this like second phase of people are waiting to see
what you what you do next.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
I guess yeah, I guess we've shut ourselves in the
foot a little bit in the.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I think people don't really know what to expect with us,
and that's kinde a good thing. Yeah, but then yeah,
we'd never really have a plan of what kind of
music we're going to make, so yeah, it could be rubbish.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
It's yeah, kind of that thing of everyone's expecting the unexpected,
then the unexpected might be.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
It is it?
Speaker 2 (44:10):
But that's that's just my own anxieties. I think, yeah,
proud of it, they're pretty proud of it.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Is about this, let's be positive, it be great. Are
you going to be playing anything new new off it,
like shows or or not yet?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Not really.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
There's a few tracks we've been playing for a while,
but but a lot of them it's all quite like
Proggy and I can't actually sing.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
And play the jump out at the same time, So right.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
I think we just need to lock ourselves in a
room for like a week and learn how to play
all these new songs. Right, It would be really nice
because I think if we if we ended up playing
all of it now, we.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Just get sick of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah, absolutely, I think like I actually think the first
album is like for an Hour, but that kind of
experimental and unexpected to go in at number four is huge.
Yet it's kind of a pretty crazy year for people.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Charge.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, did you feel that people were surprised by that
album having heard the singles beforehand?
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Yeah, I think so, Like a lot of a lot
of my friends were like, oh, it wasn't actually like
expecting it to be that weird.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
I thought it just like twelve. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
I thought that was kind of like one.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Of the biggest compliments, and I think people of people
have been giving us being it's actually really weird.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
We liked how weird it was. Exactly what shall we
head back? Yeah, you've got you've got a show to play.
It's pretty past and what will your pre show routine be? Now?
Go and hang out with Goldie?
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Really really wanted to have a photo with him this morning,
but he's on the phone.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
What would your opening sound boat of Goldie would have
been if he wasn't on the phone. Would you have
spoken to I wanted to?
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah, I didn't have it. I went out for a
cigarette and I didn't have a lighter and I saw
that he had a lighter, So that.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Was a good that's good.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
It was a good.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
Oh you Goldie, I didn't recognize you confirmed that you
were Golden. Would you have said, excuse me?
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Can I come on your lighter? And then he says, yeah,
and you're Goldie? Sorry mate, you look just like Goldie.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
I love John.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Generally speaking, though, when you see an artist that do
you approach people when it's someone that you admire and
say hi, or get a selfie or whatever, or do
you shy away from it?
Speaker 3 (46:55):
It depends if I've had a drink or not. There
was actually when I used to work at Domine and
and I did a went along to a Stephen Maltmas
and the Jicks radio session, and I'm a pretty big.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
And I went up to Stephen Matmos and I said, Hili,
I'm Stephen, which is really really a pursing anything.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
I'd talk to any of my heares.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
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Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's good.
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Man on bike. Well keep that it was child crying
quick keep that in. Hello and welcome to Midnight Chats,
a podcast of informal interviews with musicians we love, posted
weekly at midnight to suit these very casual conversations. This
week's episode is hosted by me Stuart Stubbs, the editor
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of Loud and Quiet magazine. Episode one hundred and nineteen
of the podcast has got a bit of a different
feel to previous ones. It was recorded earlier this year
in June twenty twenty two in Barcelona. I was out
there for Primavera Sound, as was my guest Ollie Judge,
the drummer and singer of Bristol based band Squid. We
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were there at the festival. I've been there for a
good week. We were out there covering it. We're a
partner of that festival. We go every year. We have
a lovely, lovely time and we tried to meet up
with a couple of bands each time and interview them.
We've done a couple of podcasts there before and then
normally quite hastily put together Angel Olsen episode which was
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a long time ago. Now it's still out there. If
you'd like to go and find it, just go back
through the feed. That was recorded at Prima Berea, but
it was in a very busy lobby, hotel lobby where
all the bands stay, so the sound quality wasn't great
for this one. I had an idea of Ollie and
myself walking along the seafront, walking along, picking up the
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sounds of the sea and the ambiance of a lovely Barcelona.
And then we got there and the weather was beautiful,
but there was still too much wind down actually on
the sea for us to do that and for it
to be audible. So what we did was we sat
on a park bench. As you're about to hear, there
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was a park near our hotels. Our hotels were very
close to each other. We met outside the one I
was staying in. We walked to the park and we
recorded this. Has it worked as an experiment, I'll let
you be the judge of that, I'd be interested to know,
so feel free to dm us on Instagram at Loud
and Quiet mag if you have an opinion on it.
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The idea was that you would get a sense of
place and it wouldn't just be two voices in a
very still room. We thought we'd make the most of
being in such a lovely environment, so that was what
we were going for. So it does sound a little
bit different, but I very much enjoyed talking to Olie.
I've met him a fair few times before. In fact,
we featured Squid on the cover of Loud and Quiet
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last year when their debut album Bright green Field came out,
and I photographed the cover feature, which is not something
I do. I'm not a photographer, but there were lockdown restrictions.
It's a long, boring story that I won't go into now,
but in men I had to photograph cover myself. I
think I did all right. I think I did okay.
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I didn't embarrass myself too much. There's a link below
this episode to that cover interview. There's also a link
to the mittens that I bemoan for a lot of
this episode, the Loud and Quiet gloves that we've made
and are selling like shit sandwiches, And there's maybe a
few other links down there. I'll see what I can
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dig out. Ollie and I talk about NFTs, we talk
about prima er itself, religion, warp records, and there is
towards the end of the conversation a few kind of
little hints that maybe what the new Squid album is
going to sound like. Perhaps. Thank you for listening. If
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This is episode one hundred and nineteen. Myself, Ollie Judge
from Squid sat on a park bench in Barcelona. So
this is nice.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It is very nice.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Set the scene. Set the scene for us. Where we
are right now.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
We are just in your garden, I think if you're
your hotel room.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah it's huge, isn't it. Yeah, big park with a
massive structure in the lake. Yeah, we're in a park
that it's quite a It feels like the sort of
park that might be in Blade Runner to me, really well,
you know, like this over here feels like quite futuristic,
but in an eighty very eighties waye. It looks like
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there's a disused sort of roller coaster.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
European Runner.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, European plays Runner here. So I had an idea
for this, which was that we were going to have
a romantic walk along the beach while we record this podcast,
Dane Low kind of style exactly. Instead we're sat next
a very unhappy child. But it's so windy down there.
We've come to this park. We have a premium erous sounds.
(05:23):
You're playing today today, Caught to eight, drove in last yesterday? Yes, yeah,
and this is your first time playing it?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, second time playing in Spain. It's very nice, it's
very relaxing.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
It's really hot. It's about twenty five is in the morning.
It's about twenty fives already. How are you in the heat?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I'm terrible in the heat. I usually burn. Yeah. I've
asked you to bring some cream.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, happy to, happy to for the talent. Got to
keep the talent.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I'm not very good in the heat.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, I go red, come monster, and you're so. Our
hotels are just over there. What's what's your hotel.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Like, well, we've got a rooftop pool which is pretty
it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
That's pretty swanky.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Goldie staying in there as well. Yeah, I saw him
in the morning. Yeah, it's pretty good. Good breakfast as well. Yeah,
fresh fruit, it's very nice.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Did you take anything away from breakfast? I don't. They
don't like it, I've found out. But have you really? Yeah, well,
our hotels are sign do you not steal as a
sign saying please eat the food here and leave, do
not take it with you? Really, no one's paying attention
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to that sign. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It's really handy when you're going for a drive the
next day when you've got to drive to another gig
because you just make a sandwich.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
In the morning, you have to get a lunch in
the way. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, this morning, it's just purely purely breakfast on site.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah. And your day. So your day, now, how does
that look? Because you're playing around like between seven and eight,
aren't you around a half seven ish?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So I've got to be there at like five, So
do this have a coffee, get back to the pool, yeah,
might go for a swim beach.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Do you tend to get nervous before a show, and
if so, how many how many hours before the show
do you start to think about it?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I think, like pre Lockdown, I never used to get nervous,
but nowadays I get quite nervous for gigs.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Mainly like headline shows. I think. So it's like, you
know that all.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
These people have bought tickets see you, so that that's
what's made That's that's the difference since Lockdown?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Is it because you're you're aware of the fact that
Is it because you're aware of that everyone's had a
miserable time and they're now there for a good time.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
No, it's more like you know, like people have come
see you play, like they haven't. You're not like supporting
anyone or like it's kind of all about squid and
you just want to put on a good show.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I think, yeah, I think that's the nerve wrecking thing.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
We've got so much on stage now it kind of
takes at least like two hours to set up. So
when you get to a festival, you've got half an
hour set up with gongs.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
How many gongs are we talking now?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
We've wheeled it down to one that used to be two.
It was it was a hard bargain, but I think it.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Had to be to leave a gong behind. Well, tonight,
you're on a stage. You've not been to the site before,
have You're not? You're on what most people consider the
best stage. Oh great, Yeah, it's the stage that paved.
We're in the second week right now, and last weekend
Pavement played on the first night and they wanted to
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play the stage you're playing. They weren't allowed because it's
a bit smaller. It's it's a bit smaller, but it's
it's big. I don't want to add to your nerves,
but it's absolutely massive and everyone's expectation is really high
because it's the best one. So I will they will
let you know if they don't know. It's it's kind
of a bit like an amphitheater, so like there's these
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steps that seat slash steps that kind of wrap around it. Yeah,
it's yeah, it's the one that it's the one.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So yeah, I heard it.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
You've gone straight in at that one because I think
people normally work.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, I heard it was in the ray band stage
maybe before. Yeah, it's quite upsetting. So I just lost
my three ray bands.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Though against me.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You used to get you did used to get three
ray bands I think for playing it. But now well
now it's sponsored by a car company.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Great, So there's an NFT stage as well, it's there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I think we saw a Black Country the other day
and they said they played on the NFT stage.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Oh hey, that explains what that stage is. It's called binance,
I think. I think I keep calling it bit fake,
but I think it's called finance. And there are certain
stages or the stages are sponsored, and there's someone I'm like,
I know what that company is, Like there's an Estrella stage,
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but there's someone I don't. I don't know. I don't
actually know what that thing is.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Something like kind of Nathan Barley.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Okay, so that's an I mean, where where do then
a squid done an NFT.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Not yet, Well we'll see how it pans up.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, where where do you stand on the n FT?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I stand on the kind of I have no idea
what they are, what it is, and yeah, I mean
I'm only twenty seven, but it makes me feel ancient ancient.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, with things like that, I do feel I should
try to engage with it and know what it is. Yeah,
so I don't turn into like an old grumpy man
that thinks that the past was better than Yeah, but
it's hard. I know, It's just it's hard to have
the energy to do it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I kind of think back to like when things are invented,
like say bluetooth like headsets. I used to see people
walking around like talking to themselves and be like, oh god,
it's that what the future is going to be. It's
it's the kind of the same with NFTs. Kind of
don't get it now, but like maybe in five years.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well, I'm surprised they've I'm surprised they are taking that
that's still here. I thought it might be a month long,
a few months, like, well this is nonsense. Yeah, but
it's big money, isn't it? What you send on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I've got a downloaded on my phone.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, I never go on it because I'm worried about
getting dragged into it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I spend a lot of time on social media, and
I think that would just be the tipping point I've
gotten if I gotten TikTok.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But what one do you waste the most amount of
time on?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Probably Instagram kind of leaning over into Twitter nowadays as Yeah,
quite like that and is this the band account or
your own account band account? Yeah, yeah, got a bit
more purchase with the people actually.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Respond yeah, yeah, well we've got on Twitter, We've only
got I don't have a personal and we've got a
magazine one and I shouldn't be surprised by this anymore,
but I'm still surprised by how much people ignore or something.
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I don't ignore you guys, you don't, don't, but you know,
there'd be times I think if we're operating on free
likes from what I would consider a very good joke,
my really good stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Trim delat, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
The really the good ship, I'm getting three likes, and
I'm having to be happy with that.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Those three people, they're really.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Liking it, they're really enjoying it. On the n f
T front, as I feel like, because you're signed to WARP,
I don't know why. I just this is a sweeping statement.
I feel like that's a WARP thing.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I think Aphex Twin did one maybe a year or
two ago. But yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Very like techy.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
It's techy and your website has got I'm not going
to say an n f T feel because I don't
really know what FT is, but it's I agree, do
you know what I mean? Like, if you if you're listening,
you haven't been on the Squid's website, check it out.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Out, go on the message boards. We never we're never
on it.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
People on it when we when we release the album,
there are people on it, and I try to try
to keep engaged it, but it's pretty hard.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
How would you describe the site? How would you sell
the site? Now?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
To some it's it's like an n FT.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It's no, it's like we tried to create like a
fictional kind of city. I don't know if you're into
video games, but it looks a bit like Halo mm.
And there's some nice music on there. There's some like
secret passwords that you can put in there that take
you to take you to the websites. It's the album
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that's really proud of it.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
It's well, it reminds me of the sort of website
like websites used to be more fun than they are now.
They're all just very yeah, and they're really as included.
They're just quiet, sort about ease of use, which is
good for a user, but it kind of has taken
out any of the kind of thing of it and
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yours has got like something to it.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, I would say nice.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I mean the label for this stuff, I think, Yeah,
they're just very good. And do they just how does
that work? Do you have? Do you say that we've
got this idea for a website and they say that's fine,
well making that for you? Or do you say we're
going to do this.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
We definitely need pushing. We're kind of.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I mean, it's like just five people kind of showing
over each other. No one has like the final say,
and we're not very Yeah, we don't really know where
to look for all that stuff, so what kind of
just send us a list of stuff which is really nice?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
But yeah, we're really bad at all the artwork.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
And we've all got five different minds shouting over each other.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I think.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I think if you're styling it out, who is the
most in the band? Who is the most visually artie?
Did any of you study art?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
No that three of three studied music, one did neuroscience,
and I did I did one of those media studies.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So what did you the best?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Really? What did you did you? Is there any transferable
skills from your media studies degree? I'm not going to
be down on media studies. I know people, that's the thing,
isn't it deeper? Always Ay, that's not a degree. I
did film and drama and I studied media studies at
a level. So I'm with you. I'm in your team.
But did you is there anything that you that you
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use from that? This is that's what crap? No, it
was because I used to interview What did you learn
in your degree that you can bring to the position?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Squid Well, I used to work at record labels, so
it's actually really handy for that, and by extension, working
at record labels is really handy for being in a band.
So it's kind of like through through a few channels.
It's been it's been pretty useful.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
If you go to Brighton.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah, I went to Brighton and the rest went
to Sussex because I applied. I applied to go to
Brighton last minute. I didn't have the grades to get
in there, but I just needed one more, one more choice.
And I didn't realize that Brighton was in Sussex when
I was like nineteen. She's quite worrying, but yeah, I
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turned up to Brighton and then I knew Louis already
from from home. I turned up at a house party
and Louis was there and I was like, I thought
you were I think you're going to Union, like the
Midlands or something. Sussex. This is Sussex.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So that's that's good and I still wanted to be today.
You were saying you drove from Switzerland. Yeah, you're currently
doing a very casual tool.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, very casual.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
It's pretty it's just a holiday pretty much.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, because my my parents just sold up everything in
the UK and moved to France. So fair place the
new places in between here and where we were in Switzerland.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
So just how do were they moving out of? Was
that your childhood home?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, but it was also my dad's childhood home because
you lived there for there for like fifty five years
or something.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
That's huge, isn't it. How I was going to ask,
how do you feel about it? But I'm actually just
going to have your dad feel.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I think a lot worse than me. I think.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
He says he keeps on having like recurring dreams that
he goes into the house and then he notices that
someone else lives there, and then he asked do they discoper?
I think I'm pretty sure they're pretty happy in France.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Do you how does it feel them feeling because you're
you live in Bristol now yeah yeah, yeah, and obviously
you're quite settled there into it, into Bristol life.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I think I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, but how because my mum still lives in the
hand that I oh yeah, Ivenue, Yeah, And I don't
know how i'd feel if she suddenly Like it's quite
a big thing, isn't it when you're family at home,
if it's one, if you've had one, yeah, and then
it is no longer there and your parents have moved
to a completely different country.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I know it is.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Does it feel? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I felt kind of like a lot of people came
up to me and like, oh, you know, you're right,
how do you feel? And I was just kind of
kind of fine, to be honest, like because I haven't
really had any attachment to like Chippenham where I grew
up in a while. I've lived in Brighton and London
and Bristol, so I was kind of barely there. I
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didn't really like, I wasn't really there for like ten years,
so kind of settled more in Bristol.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, and now you can go to France and free.
So that how's your French?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
My face is dreadful, we see, Yeah, no it's dreadful.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I think I had quite a I wouldn't say traumatic,
but my French teacher at school really didn't like me.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
It was like a giddy t shoes as well shocking.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
What was can you remember the teacher's name, miss, miss Powell?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Miss Powell? What had you done?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I think my brother, who was a bit of a
bit of a troublemaker, she taught him and just kind.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Of instantly, right, that makes sense, she got the iron fist?
Was was was there? What kind of school did you
go to? Was it a nice school? Was it like
a bit of a it was just a standard.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
School, just standard standard school.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, yeah, it was your French class. We would call
it the doss subject. I don't think people use the
word us. Yeah I used dusting about it. But you
think young people use that word now? I bet they?
I bet they don't.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, thinking about it, no, it probably was. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It was like my school was quiet. I didn't necessarily
realized it at the time. It was quite a rough school. Yeah,
I could just state school, and we had we did Spanish,
we didn't do French. But Jesus Christ, poor teachers, because
it was just chaos in that lesson, And it's the
one lesson that I wish i'd actually actually replied myself. Yeah. Yeah,
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that's my regret from school. I'm terrible with because I'd
love to swing languages.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, our class once we did there was a supply
teacher and we did like every time she left the
room and came back in, we'd all fall on the
floor and pretend to be dead.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Apart from one person refused it, what classes is in French?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Subjects?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
The subject? Yeah, unsurprisingly it was the French. Okay, this
is all adding up and you would be one on
the floor.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, I think there was. Yeah, I think there was some.
I don't know, they're probably they probably lived in France
and they're probably fluent.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That's quite a good, good prank. It's a good prank
for teachers. I think if I was a teacher, which
I never would be because I'm terrified of children bullying
and having been to a school where that happens, like
I couldn't do it. I have so much respect for teachers,
But there are certain things like a story like that,
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I'd like to think.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I would be able to you'd find it funny.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Fair. I mean, did you do it every week?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Though?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
No, it was just one yeah, and then yeah, it
never happened again. I think we all got told off
quite severely.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And how does that come about? Who the one kid?
I've got this idea.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Kind of like huddle around, kind of like eighteen.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
When Miss Para walks in, We're all going to just
drop to the floor. There's one person when I'm not
doing that.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
That's ridiculous, Like I'm here to learn.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I'm around the rest of you.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
It's but you are genuinely a good student.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, I only had I got I think I got
two detentions over five years.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
That was that was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
At your school? Did they tell you that if you
get a detention it goes on your public.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, no, you need forget it. Working in McDonald's, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Those kind of It's funny how all schools have those.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Urban myths.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, I've got attention. I may as well drop out
now there's nothing for me. I've had to stay behind
for an hour. Life is over. So where are you
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in the cycle, as they call it in the industry.
There you're touring the first record store. But the first
record came out at such a weird time.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
It's kind of odd because it came out in May
last year and we did a tour of really small
venues in May. But that was just like when you
could only go and sit down at a venue.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
So you played some of those shows where people will sat.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah, it was like thirty people like every show. It
was kind of like a double whammy because it was
we hadn't played a show in like a year. I
think the first one was in It was in Falmouth actually,
which is really really nice. It was kind of we're
all incredibly nervous because we hadn't played the show for
a year and we were instead of playing stuff from
the album, we were just doing all kind of new
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stuff that we'd kind of written in lockdowns, and there
were like thirty people and you could see the whites
of their eyes in front of all sitting down. I
went to one of those shows, the London one was
actually it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Wasn't yours, No. I set myself up for that. It
was a working mental club. It was sort of no
offense to working Men's Club. It was good, but it
was it was really early on. It was before is
that like Oslo? Yeah? Yeah, and it was Alm was
allowed to even sing. There was no singing.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I think. I think some venues were pretty hot on that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, you played at church and Totness and they were
they were really hot on that. I was in that
church you went to Tea.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, has an incredible venue.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It's really great.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I saw Caroline playing there at that festival.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
That was amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
It was really good. Yeah, and Gueno played in there.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
It's funny playing in churches. Music's in no way like
Satanic or anything, but just a rock band in a church.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, it seems a little bit. It seems a bit weird.
Did you Did you grow up religious in any way?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Are you religious anymore? No?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
No, I'm I'm I'm not really, I'm not at all
even not really. Yeah, yeah, I don't really, I didn't.
I didn't even know anyone that's kind of religious. I'm
not friends with anyone that's.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I'm not religious at all, but I really respect it,
and I I wouldn't so I envy it. But I
actually mean more, I mean more religious people, more people
who are practicing religions now doing like meeting bands and
artists than I ever have really, Yeah, you know, openly
talk about that faith in a really kind of cool way,
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Whereas where I grew up, we were all a bunch
of like who were just like it's just you know,
it's not cool to like that, just be down on
that sort of thing. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I think there's still definitely yeah, that kind of feeling.
I don't know, maybe yeah, maybe you just grow out
of it kind of Yeah, I know you mean about
kind of like almost envying, envying it. It'd be nice
having something, Yeah, I don't know. It's some faith in something.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Something to fall back yeah, yeah, something to fall back
on a bit, have it in your back pop. But
it doesn't really work that way, does it. You have
to fully believe.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
There's a really good podcast called Sounds Like a Cult.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Oh that sounds great.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, and it's not it's not about actual cult. It's
about things that are quite culty. So, like there's one
on Elon Musk and it's about like the fans of
following Yeah, you can't do anything wrong. There's one on
like Peloton, I think.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Or like that Peloton is really culty it's kind of
like it's exactly like that episode of It's such a
cliche to say now it sounds like Black Mirror. That
episode of Black Mirror where kind of like an X
Factor kind of spoof. But those adverts where people are
just kind of like they've got like big screens in
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front of them and they're like, I don't know, doing
some like mad cycling competition in like they're doing like
the Tour de France something, and they're just kind of
like staring at the wall.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Like yeah, and there's and there's an instruct to say,
you've got this great work.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
We're going up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I think it's a scam, isn't it. It's Pyramid, absolutely
a scam. But they've just had a very good pandemic. Yeah,
you know, there were certain things. This is a conversation
that everyone has and probably doesn't need to be recorded
on to podcast, but I'm going to say anyway, certain
thing like QR codes had very strong pandemics.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
See the inventor of the QR codes, because.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
It was down and out, wasn't it. When was the
last time you'd used a QR? I didn't even know
if I even had I didn't even know, you could
just use your camera to no no, yeah, yeah, I
had an app. Yeah, Peloton, all the delivery companies, all
of the supermarkets, yea, all of those things just had.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
There were a lot of things that skyrocketed.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, and Peloton's one where that surely would not have
taken off without people being locked inside their houses.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
It's funny that speaking about Peloton. Before the pandemic, I
was terrified of cycling. But when you could like go
out and do some exercise and there was no one
on the roads, me and my partner just got on
bikes and.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Now I love it.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
This is in Bristol.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, it's a really nice city to cycle. So what
was it had you cycled as a kid?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I had.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
But my partner's really really really in cycling, and her
family are really in cycling.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
They've been doing it kind of all their life.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
And it was only when I started cycling with her
that I realized how petrified my parents.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Were of cycling.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
They passed. Yeah I remember me and yeah, we were
Me and my partner were around my parents' house and
we were going to cycle from Chipping into Bristol like
three hours. My mom and dad for like, yeah, just
make sure cycle on the pavement is safer. And then
and then that was like, it's way more dangerous.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
It would take forever as well, wouldn't it really would Yeah,
because you'd have to be you'd be constantly stopping for people.
And then there's bits where there's driveways. You can't just
speed over a driveway cavement. Yeah, I mean that would take. Yeah,
that's they've so they've passed on that that.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I think, so to you, it would be it'll be
interesting to hear what they think about that after they
listened to this podcast.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
So now you cycle? So now do you cycle? Did
you have you got? How into it?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Have you got?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
You got the likes?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I haven't got the like crayer.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I have thought about maybe doing some like squid squid licra,
but A, I think it would be really really expensive, yeah,
and B it's I don't know, maybe it's.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Not the best look.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I think that the jersey would be good. I guess
it depends on maybe not sure. Yeah, I think the
shorts too much to stop stop with the shorts, but
maybe this would be actually really expensing, I think, But
a squid helmet that would be good because everyone you
have to wear a helmet, whereas not everyone Oxford that
like craft.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, and yeah that would be good. I'm very I
always wear my helmet.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
And I make other people wear their helmets. So if
there was a squid helmet, that was really cool.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, I make people wear it. Well.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I had a very close call on my bike and
I wasn't wearing a helmet.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Oh, I think I listened to the you and Jason Williamson.
Is it when you Oh yeah, I think I might.
Was it when you broke, like break your back up?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, I broke a Vertebrae's fine, but I I had Yeah,
that was just just after because I was I think
when I met him, I was wearing this looked like
a bulletproof. I looked like there was like this, it's horrible.
It looked like it looked quite cool. Actually, yeah, I
actually had a meat. I went and met the team
at Warp whilst.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I had that on.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
And when I'm watching.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Your top, I'm like, it's a back brace. I've broken
my back.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
This is not a fashion Chorge techno brace.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Oh right, okay, but can I get one? But where
can I get one? But I was wearing that when
we recorded that podcast, and yeah, I wasn't wearing a helmet.
I wouldn't often wear a helmet back then, and I
landed on the road. The back of my head smacked
onto the road and I had to go. I was
(32:39):
rushed hospital and they didn't know about the backup, and
they were mostly concerned about my head, but I was.
I was in a lot of pain. But I was
also so embarrassed that whenever I was talking to a
doctor and they asked me, first thing was like, where
you're in a helmet? And I had to say no
every time. Yeah, And I just felt so stupid that
since that day, I've I wear it every every single time.
I don't actually preach it to others not wearing the
(33:01):
helmet because I was that person and I don't want
to be that. But yeah, and I'm like, but I'm
I'm kind of glad I had that moment because now
I still you know, it did not my comments in cycling,
but it did make me think I have to always
wear a helmet is just mental.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, I kind of always wear a helmet and make
people feel guilty about it.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Where's your helmet? What's your best merch that you've that
you've delivered if you don't.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Really ship merch, Yeah, we are.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
We made some mittens recently, which I should say now
are still available, the footy ones, the the shirt's doing
really well shirts doing great. That's available for another By
the time this goes out there, it won't be avail
of anymore. But we might do another one later in
the year. But the we made some fleece mittens Loud
(34:01):
and Quiet, police Smitten. They are still up make don't
buy them, I'll send yourself. They are blocking the light
out of our office. We have got so many of them.
I thought they were like a really kind of fun
novelty but useful. I mean, I like, so that's I've
misjudged literally everybody else in the world.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
But it's like classic things like when you when you
buy someone the present that you think they'll love, but yeah,
it's actually something something for you. Yeah, we want to
make ping pong bats and yeah, but we just think
we just love ping pong.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
No one else as much as this.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, maybe really.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Hard to make as well. Do you have a.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Without divulging too much trade secrets, do you have like
because you've got a really dedicated fan base who love you.
There's probably amount that by a ping pong bout. Yeah,
like they just like they want the thing. Yeah, so
you could maybe do a run. It's about working out
that number, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
It's not like they're not going to convert any kind
of people who don't listen to a band.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not going to happen
unless you do some sort of collab. Yeah, have you
done any of those? No?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I think I think that'd be good. Though, you're just
terrible emerch. We're just like stories very last minute.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
We sold them.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
We headlined dot to dot last weekend when we played
in Nottingham. We sold two T shirts.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Right, We hired someone to do merch for us in
the costume.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Do you take that rejection badly or are you okay
with just saying, hey, we tried this thing. It didn't
really work. It's not a big deal. 's move on
to next thing.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
It depends what it is, if it's if, if it's merched,
and I find it kind of funny. We sold two
T shirts.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Headliner T shirts, but yeah, t shirts. I'm fine with
that rejection. The music itself, the music itself, I guess
is a different thing. I think it's so easy to
say that we're just doing this for us, but you know,
if you want other people to enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I think I used to be quite good.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I'm getting worse.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, I think I'm definitely getting worse as well.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Why does any want these mittens that's so warm? So warm?
Come in to colors. I'm going to stop talking now,
but one last thing I will say about them. We
even when you subscribe, like for people that subscribe to
the magazine, there's even an option now for you to
opt in to get free mittens, and people are not
opting in for the free it's exactly the same price.
(36:56):
It's this one. You get all of these things. And
it's when you get all these things and you get
some free mittens, and people are opting in for the
one without them. Why damning, isn't it? That is damning.
I mean, we're definitely out of the state of the world.
We're out of the season, that's for sure, and people
are probably just thinking, I don't well, I really I
really want. I'm going to I'm going to send the
(37:19):
band some mittens all of you. So with the ping pong,
do you do you have a Ping Pong table in
the not necessarily on tour, but do you put it
on your rider?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
No, I don't think we're there yet, but I think
next to.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Next, next time. I don't know, see how they see
how the next album goes. Yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Do you have unusual rider requests or is it?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
No, it's all pretty standard.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Everyone has some characters. Don't really know.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
It's the industry standard.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I think is that there was something that when you're
dreaming of being in a band, you think, I can't
wait for.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Some warm, warm.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Phizy because I think I think the hummus thing is
a fairly recent developing.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, I think so as well.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Surely in the nineties it was Stellars. Yeah, bags, yeah,
I should do that. Drugs and there wouldn't be any
hummus on there, I don't think. Or no vegetables, no vegetables,
a big bowl of fruit.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
We did ask that there was a period where Arthur
got really he got really obsessed with the Gray Goose
and you know perdies, the kind of like middle class
energy change. Yeah, yeah, you got obsessed with that, and
we had that on our rider. But then we just realized,
like a bottle of gray Goose every single night. Yekind
(38:51):
of it's getting to waste? Would yeah, would you get
through that?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
No, we're very tame now. We like we just asked
for alcohol free beers.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Is that because do you do you try to stay
up to be before the show?
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah? Yeah, I find that for me.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
For me personally, it makes me really nervous to be
drunk when I'm on stage because it's from a bit pieste.
And then I make one mistake and I'll keep on
thinking about that mistake, and then I make another mistake.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
You know, I just kind of spiral. That's not fake?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Does that come from a show? Have you played a
show that's been like that's it? We can't I can't
be drinking.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
No, not really.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
It's just kind of I think we're all pretty I
think we're all pretty hard on ourselves with kind of
like just making the mistakes.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
That obviously no one not.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Do you notice when someone else on the stage makes
a mistake even though you wouldn't tell them?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, but it's also quite fun. You can if someone
makes a mistake, you can kind of style it out
with another mistake, like it was kind of planned. Almost
happens sometimes, but.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, no, no, no. If you don't tell each other
about the mistakes, you get.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Back off the show and say you were sure you
played that E instead of the F that was so embarrassing.
Everyone was laughing. I think you should probably leave the band.
When was it that you did the tour that was
working progress stuff? That was the the sit down down?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah. Did any songs come from that that are going
to be on the on the new record?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
I think I think pretty much all of them actually, yeah. Nice. Yeah,
so there will be people who when that album comes out,
will be like the forms of these Yeah, I hope.
So that's quite cool. Can they put this one on?
(40:55):
Don't hold out much hope for the rest of the
album because he is the lead single, No thanks. I
feel like we should walkch we yeah, let's do it
before let's do the same no thing. We can start
heading back. This is quite intimate now because we're kind
of tethered.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
It's very like, well, you.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Know, we've got these little Yeah, we've got these umbilical
chords going from a clip on mics to the recorder.
So don't run off whatever you're doing. Is there anything
you can say about the second record or you know,
when is this?
Speaker 2 (41:33):
When? When is this going up? Probably?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I mean not quite soon. I'd say next like four
weeks it's finished.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Yeah, it's pretty much no. Yeah, yeah, it's quite nerve wracking.
Second album?
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Are you feeling that you're feeling? Is it you're feeling
the pressure of the first one?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yea, A little bit like, yeah, everything went so well
with the first one. But yeah, I just worried about
how people receive it. But I'm sure it would be fine.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
I think it's quite nice to hear say that, because
I don't think you're meant to You're meant to say
the best, best thing, the best thing, and you know,
we don't really care anyway. We're pleased with it and
we don't really care. I mean, the first one did
the child at fourth?
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I know it's mad. Did you believe it?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Did you all go out and get smashed?
Speaker 2 (42:27):
We didn't when it charted, but when it came out
we had a massive party. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe
slightly bending the rules in may.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Okay, it's very I imagine it's very different like being
in a band at this point, not just the second
album thing, but the journey of Squid as I'd see
it would be like you were playing so much before
you sign your deal, like, yeah, there was this real
(43:02):
momentum and like every show you're playing so much, and
all those shows were like really full and like it
was like incredible. And then you've got you had all
these labels onting to sign you and all these people
coming down, and you signed your deal with Warp and
then at that point, I guess you were the hyped band,
you know, the band everyone was like, it's quite squad.
(43:22):
And then your album comes out and now you're in
this like second phase of people are waiting to see
what you what you do next.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
I guess yeah, I guess we've shut ourselves in the
foot a little bit in the.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I think people don't really know what to expect with us,
and that's kinde a good thing. Yeah, but then yeah,
we'd never really have a plan of what kind of
music we're going to make, so yeah, it could be rubbish.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
It's yeah, kind of that thing of everyone's expecting the unexpected,
then the unexpected might be.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
It is it?
Speaker 2 (44:10):
But that's that's just my own anxieties. I think, yeah,
proud of it, they're pretty proud of it.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Is about this, let's be positive, it be great. Are
you going to be playing anything new new off it,
like shows or or not yet?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Not really.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
There's a few tracks we've been playing for a while,
but but a lot of them it's all quite like
Proggy and I can't actually sing.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
And play the jump out at the same time, So right.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
I think we just need to lock ourselves in a
room for like a week and learn how to play
all these new songs. Right, It would be really nice
because I think if we if we ended up playing
all of it now, we.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Just get sick of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah, absolutely, I think like I actually think the first
album is like for an Hour, but that kind of
experimental and unexpected to go in at number four is huge.
Yet it's kind of a pretty crazy year for people.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Charge.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, did you feel that people were surprised by that
album having heard the singles beforehand?
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Yeah, I think so, Like a lot of a lot
of my friends were like, oh, it wasn't actually like
expecting it to be that weird.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
I thought it just like twelve. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
I thought that was kind of like one.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Of the biggest compliments, and I think people of people
have been giving us being it's actually really weird.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
We liked how weird it was. Exactly what shall we
head back? Yeah, you've got you've got a show to play.
It's pretty past and what will your pre show routine be? Now?
Go and hang out with Goldie?
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Really really wanted to have a photo with him this morning,
but he's on the phone.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
What would your opening sound boat of Goldie would have
been if he wasn't on the phone. Would you have
spoken to I wanted to?
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah, I didn't have it. I went out for a
cigarette and I didn't have a lighter and I saw
that he had a lighter, So that.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Was a good that's good.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
It was a good.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
Oh you Goldie, I didn't recognize you confirmed that you
were Golden. Would you have said, excuse me?
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Can I come on your lighter? And then he says, yeah,
and you're Goldie? Sorry mate, you look just like Goldie.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
I love John.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Generally speaking, though, when you see an artist that do
you approach people when it's someone that you admire and
say hi, or get a selfie or whatever, or do
you shy away from it?
Speaker 3 (46:55):
It depends if I've had a drink or not. There
was actually when I used to work at Domine and
and I did a went along to a Stephen Maltmas
and the Jicks radio session, and I'm a pretty big.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
And I went up to Stephen Matmos and I said, Hili,
I'm Stephen, which is really really a pursing anything.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
I'd talk to any of my heares.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
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