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Other people's success stories and start living your own. My
guest is Kim Whitley's Nature graduate, activist, author, comedian, and
most importantly Amon Kid.
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Was born in Cleveland, Ohio, and I found out raised
in Sudan, Africa.
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Seventeen.
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We got talk. We got to talk with her. Her success.
No holloist started with.
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Me as a cloud.
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You know, That's all I knew. Then I found out
through more research A Copter school teacher.
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We would discuss her career outside of acting the legacy
of our differend Uh David Orman this.
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You know, when you know somebody for a long time,
you know they talented. Kim Whitley is.
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One of those people where before she started being as
talented as she as a stand up coming, people always
called me.
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He said, on who you recommend to be a funny hope?
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I said, Kip with me? She knows, I said, I
knew she wasn't there's a stand up but she was
just gifted. I mean she walked out on stage, nothing
bothered her. I remember when we were in the Bermuda
and with Earth Wind and Fired, she was like remember
that God and the promoter said, who you recommend to
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come out there and host? I said, Kim Whitley, kick
wit me and she came out. Because I always knew
there was something about you. First of all, you're not
afraid of anything. And then but the fact that I
just knew that audience, you know, because it was like
about ten thousand people staying at you in Bermuda.
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And Earth when Fire was headlined.
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That was when David David Arnold came with me.
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Yes, and remember Anthony Hamilton was there, Steve Harvey were
all there, remember.
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And that's right, Smokey Robinson. That was so excited.
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You remember that because Gladys Knight was hanging out. She
came on the side.
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And then little miss Kim really out there hosting this
big old event.
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And I said, you come, and she came and paid it,
she did everything.
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When did you start getting the stand up bug, which
at the early days just walking out there. When did
you start putting the thoughts or the seeds of being
a stand up?
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I mean, we could really be transparent here because you're
my guy, and I probably should have called you a
long time ago. This is the truth is this. There's
always fear, but I don't want the audience to think
there's fear, because if the audience thinks you're afraid, they're
not gonna ride with you. You have to be fearless
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and go out there and be free. And it's interesting.
I've always you know, like that improv stand up and
just talking to people I've loved. But when you put
people think anyone can do stand up, you can't. It
really is an art to stand up. And I started
writing things down, like right when that movie Harlem Knights
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was out, and I had this little pad of paper,
Dela ree a pad of paper might have been like
this big, you know, and I used to write down
little things that I thought I might have had three
four jokes. And I met Red Fox and Ronaldo Ray
and Richard Pryor and of course Eddie Murphy. And the
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truth is, I've always had I have a funny family,
and I grew up with all boys, so you know,
they were joning on me all the time. And you know,
during that movie, I was the I was the guardian
of the little boy in the movie because my friend,
his father was an actor, couldn't make it that that day.
He said, Kim, could you go to set? And I
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remember walking around a corner and Ronaldo Rey, you know,
Ronaldo Ray trying to be funny. There were no chairs,
and Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor and of course Red
Fox were sitting in those director's chairs. And I went around,
you know, in the set, I went around one of
those corners and I saw these greats and I was
so nervous I jumped. I was like, oh my god,
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I went around the wrong corner, Like how do I
get you know, I was like, oh my god, cat,
I backpedal, and Ronaldo Ray looked at me and say,
hat hey, little girl. You know he says, long as
I got a face, you got somewhere to sit. No, no,
he said that in front of all of them. But
you know Kim from Cleveland. And I remember looking at
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him and saying, and as long as you got a
face like that, I guess I'll be standing. And all
I know is Red Fox spit his coffee or it
was Richard Pryor. They jumped out their seat. Bernaldo Ray
was red, he was mad. I was in a sheer panic.
Oh my god. And Red Fox came up to me
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and said, are you a stand up? And I said,
I said no, but I want to be. And he said,
get ten minutes of material together and I'll help you.
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And he said, I'm tired of seeing these ugly funny
That's what he said to me. I was like, he said,
he said, pretty funny. And ten minutes for Sean is
a stand up? You a new stand. I was like
ten minutes, right, and I did. I was scared because
my mother was like sex and rock and roll in La, right,
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and I didn't know. I was not hungry enough or
I was not fearless to say give me your number,
let's go.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Didn't do it. Red Fox died. The day he died,
he died, I went out and did my first three
minutes of stand up because I felt like I missed
an opportunity and it pushed me in that direction. And
I'm still not where I should be.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Oh, Rashwan, I'm gonna tell you something and that I
know you may not be because you know you always drive,
You always driving for the ultimate joke.
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That's when you're a comedian.
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Because there's a lot of people going to say they
think they find ady get off state and walk off
state like they've done something. Not a blessing to see
Cherrs Shepherd and her on tour several dates in the Northeast, and.
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I, you know, because when you saw somebody.
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In a long time and then you see them perform
at the level that she was performing, I was like
taking aback in a good way.
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And I told her, I said, you're your standard for real,
and you.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Really didn't accept that because you thought I I was
just saying something to be with, but you really have
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I'm just trying to get when did it turn?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
When did they click that this is what you could
do as a stand up because as an actress you're phenomenal,
But as a stand up, that's a whole differ. No
script audiens don't know you You have to every certain
amount of seconds, you got to generate some type of
positive response, where as a laugh or a clap or
a gold girl or whatever.
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That's a certain fear that you have to overcome. You do.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And you know when it clicked. When my dear friend,
the late great David Arnold, we went on tour together
and I was forced to do stand up. So what
David said was, Kim, we're gonna use your celebrity to
get in these rights. That's what it was, right. I
was like, I don't want to. I'm an improv stand up.
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I don't like doing the same material. That was the
biggest thing to get over. I like talking. He said, Kim,
to be a stand up, you have to repeat the joke.
And I didn't even like listening to my own voice.
So I had to get over that and we would
book the date. So I was forced and David, and
David was for We have a running joke. We had
a running joke that I complained I quit before every show.
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I was like, I quit, I can't, I can't do it.
Two shows a night, one show Thursday, two shows Friday,
two shows Saturday, and one show Sunday. Whoa in these clubs?
I was like, Oh, that's a lot of work and lazy.
So David, he said, We're gonna use your celebrity to
get me in these clubs so they'll know me. They
don't know me. The radio station never gave him headphones
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to talk, and they were always with me this one.
People don't understand. He was the heavy. I was the name,
so I would get them. So I would we would
do these clubs. We'd have a person bring us up.
I would do first twenty minutes and then I would
introduce him because always said, I'm yinga Ross. This is
my Michael Jackson coming to the stage. But what they
don't realize is I was bringing him up to clothes
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because I knew he was gonna take it home. And
then we went up together and we cut a food.
So that's when it happened when I really started developing
my act. We did, he said, she said, and y'all
did for a number of years, right, Yes, we did.
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And then he he got so strong and so popular.
He was going back to the clubs, selling out and
adding shows. I was like, really, just gonna leave me.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
He's gonna leave, yes, because it was funny, you know,
when he when I saw his first Netflix field, we
talked from David Arnold and it was Shotney Cleveland, and
then I saw Kim Whitley.
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I said, what's going over there? And then I called you.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I said, David, know what's incredible? I said, can you
give me his number?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
So I call it and I called him and I
just and he just couldn't believe I called him. He said,
you calling me? I said, yeah, dude, I gotta tell
you man, you funny brother. I said, can I interview?
He said, yeah, you can interview me? And it was
it was a blessing.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I think when I look at the whole relationship that
you and him had, Okay, he was smart enough to realize, look,
I don't nobody know me, but I'm fun they know her,
but she needs to understand put and she can be
even more funny. So he gifted you with the work
that now you're taking advantage of because you got.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
A close a bit that you do on stage.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Girl as a killer, I'm telling you something. I ain't
gonna tell you how something. But first of her whole
set is beautiful. The whole set is beautiful. And and
as as a stand up and I watched for women
to do stand up is even more difficult. It's more
difficult for sea young lady who is came into the
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acting game and then went on stage gifted and prov person.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
And then David said, look stop, we're in this right now.
You let Red Fox go. We're gonna we're gonna make
it happen right now. And then all of a sudden,
you're blasted.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Now you're able to generate revenue for yourself as a
stand up comedian.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Correct, Absolutely, Sean, you're hitting that one on the head
because we are definitely you know, I'm just like, it's
it's it's happening. They're like, you don't talk about Joshua
in your stand up and people always ask when I
was like, I don't find nothing funny about that boy
just agitated. Just get her mom, I'm mad at them
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all the time.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
That's her gift, right when she said that, I'm teasing
the breeze of people who are funny.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
When she said that, that made me laugh because once
she that's what I'm saying. She's so young in the game.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
That's why I know she gave eighty years old and
she was still won't be making people because one day
gonna really click in this she just funny and they
as a comedian, two plus two really is four. And
when she said that, ain't nothing funny about that bar
right there, I'm laughing hard because she was funny and
she just spoke because she's so brilliant in the way
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we've seen her on so many scripted shows and HBO
and David you know you that was a big blow
up for you and blow and just being in prov
and being African American and being featured in that way.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
That was huge. But then, like the funny part before
we wrap up this interview is a couple of stories.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I gotta say to her that I didn't know okay,
because you know, you read people's bio. And then because
of the striker were limited on talking about movies. She's
in her TV shows, she's starting in so Rashane had
to dig dp.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Born in Cleveland, raised in Sudan, Africa. How are you right?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
How? And that's when people are like, how did that happen? Yes,
you know, well it's interesting. I'm so glad it did
happen because I have that part of my life that
my father is an architect, had an architectural firm. But
back in the day when he first started, my father
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worked for a company, Dalton and Dalton, and they were
building schools in Africa, and they sent over a black family,
a white family, and an Asian family. I swear it's
the craziest thing.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
It was the.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Sailors who were still friends with and the maidenans so
and they had so we went to Sudan and it
was an amazing experience because I remember as soon as
we moved in there was a spider. I swear the
spider was this big on the wall. Maybe because I
was a kid, there was a huge spider. But that's
how it happened. We my father was building schools and
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Sudan and I know my parents said, you know, once
you get to high school, we got to leave because
they didn't have high school American high school there. But
I had an English nursery school teacher that American wreck
where we would go over and do all the American holidays.
But I wasn't there. Like what happened was there was
a civil war and all the Americans had to get out.
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When I tell you, we left our dog in the
yard with a bone, that's all I remember.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I was like, this is horrible.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Because we got the dog from another family that had
to you know, they brought families in and they gave
us the dog. The dog was mean. We couldn't even
get that dog for two weeks. We had to leave
on a leash and send food over with a stick.
But became the best dog ever. But when we left,
we had to leave the dog and we had to
put our stuff on a ship up and get it
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back to America. But in between that time, my parents said, well,
you know what, let's travel Europe because we we we
can't be we had somebody living in the house, so
we can't go back.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
It was a lot.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It was a lot.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
She's my good friend. She's a stand up extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
You know.
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We didn't even talk about the podcast, we didn't talk
about the wish.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
We've been talking about everything, but because.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I had to get to sue An talk in, I
was not going off the show not talking about Confident
School Teaching days and sue An.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
So I'm sorry audience.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Raseean had the ass some things he never asked the
great incredible stand up community, so follow.
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Me on Instagram and on social media. K Y M
Whitley across the board.
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I love you and we talked soon again.
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The incredible Kim Whidley took time to talk to us
on Money Making Conversation.
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Master Clafe, thank you.
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