Classic Episode: How to make multiple streams of Income through art

Chuck Styles sits with Money Moves to discuss his journey of becoming one of the top barbers in the Philadelphia area and how the barbershop industry aided in his transition to becoming a full-time artist. Chuck also shares intel on his collaboration with Tops and Nascar while giving us gems on how he's built multiple streams of income through art.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey Money Movers, Welcome back to Money Moves, the daily
podcast determined to give you the keys to the Kingdom
of financial stability, wealth and abundance. Hey money Movers, Welcome
back to Money Moves. I'm your host, Hannya Sam and

(00:22):
welcome again to Money Moves, the daily podcast determined to
give you the keys to the Kingdom of financial stability,
wealth and abundance. Today's guest has been an artist since
he was six years old, then broke off into entrepreneurship
and became one of the best barbers in the Philadelphia area.
And now he's continuing to follow his childhood passion and
dream and living the life as an artist. Welcome to

(00:45):
the podcast. How are you today? It's so good to
have you here, Chuck Styles, I thank you, thank you
so so much for having me. It's a pleasure, big
fan of Greenwood and the platform that you know you are.
You guys are doing and creating to just you know,
spark conversation about um financial literacy within the black community.

(01:07):
So thank you for having me. Well, we're so happy
to have you here, and we really like to delve
into the trajectory of success in the lifestyles of people
from all different industries, from creatives to artists, musicians to
entrepreneurs and startup and technology. So really excited because your
art speaks for itself. We are all staring at it
right now and you've got some amazing works behind you.

(01:29):
But I want to rewind to the beginning. Tell us
about little Chuck Styles growing up in Philadelphia, um, and
sort of I want to dive into you know, how
you were raised in terms of looking at money, making
money moves, saving money, investing. Like, people come with a
lot of different stories about how they were introduced to
this at a young age. Yeah, man, were little Chuck Styles. Um.

(01:53):
I actually grew up in a small stuburb like right
outstide of West Philly, UM in Landsdowne. UM. Big big family, UM,
six other brothers and sisters. So we were like we
were like the Black Brady Bunch in in the in
the in the community. UM. Low income but you know,
a lot of love, a lot of a lot of

(02:14):
fun um. And you know, when you're a kid, you
don't realize that you're poor, you know what I mean?
And the order and then you started realizing like, oh
I did have a lot of syrupsyre which is you know,
growing up. So I guess, um, just growing up. You know,
my mom worked hard, my stepfather worked hard, and we
you know, we made it work. Um, but I did.

(02:37):
I did pay atttention to how we lived as a family,
especially when I got to a teenager, when I started
to see, like, you know, our roof was falling apart,
and there was water that was coming in. And you know,
every every night when it rained, I would have to
stay up, you know, get like hours of sleep because
I had to empty the trash cans fill it up

(02:58):
with water. So it a little things like that started started.
You know, I'm sparking the interests to you know, UM,
want to make money and when financially I get older.
UM and my uncle who owned barbershops in uh In
Germans in the German Town section of Philadelphia. That's what

(03:19):
piqued my interests of being a barber. So I tried
the I tried the college route, and I tried the
corporate nine the five route. Um, but I ended up
you know, pursuing my barbering passion right out of high
school and being a young man trying to you know,
get out of your mom's basement. Um, I was you know,

(03:41):
buying my own car and you know, funding my own
lifestyle at like nineteen twenty years old and stuff. I
kind of jumped right out into the world of like
making money. And because barbering is you know, fast money. Um,
I learned a lot of good things as a barber,
but a lot of bad habits as a barber. I
didn't didn't know about chances, I didn't know about retirement plans.

(04:03):
I didn't thank you for speaking the truth, you know,
because these are a lot of things that people stumbling,
like you said, they're making some fast money, they think
they're doing good, but the infrastructure behind it nobody taught
them to do. In barbering, like there's so many people
in our community who have barbershops, but there's a business
side of it that you know, you don't talk about
in the barbershop. Absolutely, absolutely so. So barbering barbering, um

(04:27):
is the area of my life that I contribute so
much to like the artists that I am now, especially
when it comes to business because through barbering and being
a successful barbera, I learned how to market myself, um,
you know, in in in large convention areas and and
um selling products and selling yourself things like that. UM.

(04:48):
But it took me to jump out and take the
sleep of faith as a full time artist, where I
had to relearn or or unlearned a lot of bad habits,
Like I said, ability, the credit um, looking at retirement uh,
plans and and things like that. UM. So I learned
how to be more financially responsible with the money that

(05:09):
I was making once I started taking my art career
a lot more serious. But those two careers go hand
in hand because barber and taught me how to make
the money and running an art business taught me how
to manage the money. Wow, I like it. So how
many how many years were you working as full time
barbering and how many shops did you own? UM in

(05:31):
the Philly area. Uh. Well, I want to say that
I I started. I started cutting when I was about
like in eighth grade, you know, but professionally, professionally I
would say, from the age of nineteen to the age
of thirty. So over ten years of my life was
dedicated to just you know, being a barber. UM. I

(05:53):
didn't own any shops. I was fortunate enough to really
work with some um, some really talented UM business savvy
you know barbershop owners that I I you know, owe
a lot to just as far as my element as
a young man and you know the business side. But um,
but yeah, that was that was about ten ten eleven

(06:15):
years of my life to the barbering. The barbering arts
is what I call it, the barbering arts. And so
when did you begin to transition into actually creating art?
Behind us? There's like some incredible art and I'm wondering
when you took the lead to follow that full time?
Uh well, art is one of those things that I've

(06:37):
done since I was a kid. But I never wanted
to be an artist because I never saw any role models,
um depicted on television or you know, in media that
looked like me that was a successful artist. So, you know,
growing up as a young black kid and you know
in the community, I wanted to play basketball or do
all these other things except follow the gift that God

(07:00):
made me. Um. And it's because I didn't see any
leadership with with UM. When I turned when I turned thirty, UM,
that's when I took the leap of faith and said,
I'm I'm I've accomplished a lot as a barber and
I'm still young enough to try something else and be
great at that too. So I took that leap of

(07:23):
faith at thirty with the support of my wife, my
family that kind of just let me have that time
to figure it out. Um But but like I said,
it's so much. I learned so much in the barber
industry that it was and I remember this moment. I
used to do a lot of hair compet to barber
competitions where I would cut hair for you know, trophies

(07:44):
and prizes and things like that. And while I was
at these convention centers of ten thousand people, I would
look at the booths and the boots all were the same.
It was like a cookie cutter, kind of like repetition. Yeah,
there were some there were the products that were selling
all these things, and nobody was selling artwork. I've seen

(08:05):
thousands of people there and I've seen nobody's selling artwork.
And that's when the light bulb went off and said,
this is a void that I can feel. I'm going
to start attending these um these conventions, in these these seminars,
in these events, and I'm a you know, present my
art to the barber community and tel that industry. And
I started to grow the confidence and to know how

(08:28):
to just operate, you know, my art in certain areas,
and that helped me. That helped me with my transition.
I mean, I love that vision of just being able
to see, hey, there's something missing out of this market.
I have something that these this community might like, let
me try it. And you know, I think that's like
some of the beauties of like entrepreneurship. You're just trying
things to see what works, what sticks, and you know

(08:50):
you've definitely found the lane and you went with it. Yeah,
absolutely absolutely paid all. So how did you know when
you were ready to transition full time, leave the barbering
world behind and go strictly into earning a living um
off of selling your art. The funny thing is, you
know it was I want to say it was it

(09:13):
was god like Honestly, I don't think that's the only answer.
It is the only answer. It was just a very
um it was a very interesting time for me and
my family at that moment. And like I said, I
was I've accomplished a lot at the age to thirty
as a barber, but it was barbering wasn't something that

(09:33):
I saw myself doing when I got older, you know,
sixty seventy. You know, it's like, how am I still
gonna be able to you know, physically stand up and
cut you know, twelve hour days. That's not all for
my life. And you know when you when you know,
when coming out of that nine year and then you

(09:54):
hit your thirties, it's like you have this you know,
it hits me eureka moment where he was like, man it, okay,
what's my life gonna look like from here on? Because
now I feel like an adult adult, like a real adult.
And um, I think it was just a jumbalaya of
just so many different events and feelings and thoughts that

(10:16):
just kind of gave me the confidence to say, Okay,
let's do let's try. Yeah. UM, I want to come
back and touch on your heart. But I just want
to ask one last question. You know, one thing you
when you talk about barbering, you talk about it as
a profession. Um, I want to because I think there's
so many people and the money moves audience that are barbers,
their beauticians. They're you know, making earling a living, but

(10:38):
it really is a profession. You also talk about going
to conferences and um, you know, competing in conferences for
awards and stuff. Talk about how people need to have
this mindset of looking at barbering as a profession, um,
and just little things that they can do to sort
of increase their game in barbering and beauty. Oh yeah, absolutely, Um,

(11:02):
the barbering world. It's funny enough because the hair industry,
you know, not just barbering, because barbing is a very
small set here. This is a multibillion dollar industry. You know,
it's huge, and we people of color make up a
huge part of that. We spend our dollars hard in

(11:23):
that area and that industry. So I you know, I
really love how you approach. It's like, this is a profession.
This isn't just what I do to make money. I'm
not just casually cutting hair. Like your approach to it
was like very distinctly a profession. Oh yeah absolutely, And
um for a lot of young barbers. For you know,
hairstyles out there that are um kind of shot bound.

(11:46):
You know, the world of of of the hair industry
and the opportunities to you know, expand um, you know
your financial kind of life, you know, resume. It's it's
out there and it's unfortunate that you know, us uh
us that you know consume so much with the hair products,

(12:07):
and within the hair industry, there's not enough on the
other side that's treated the products. And so when I
started to go to the conventions, you know in in Atlanta, Brona,
Bonner Brothers, you know what Ian or its huge or
Premier down in Orlando or um you know it's another
one really big in New York at the Jagob Jackett's time.

(12:29):
It's literally tens of thousands of vendors there telling all
types of hair products and tools and capes and you
name it. And it's not a lot of black and
brown vendors that are there. So what I would encourage
is get into the product space because number one, number one,

(12:52):
what I learned early on is that no matter how
good you are, there are only still a certain amount
of hours in the day that you can actually perform
that service. There are only an amount of people within
that that day that you can service. So why not
get into the product business where that you can have
a a tribe, true and tested product that can sell

(13:16):
throughout all times of day, all times of the day,
all times of the night, and it'll just continuously you know,
gain traction, and and and and provide the financial freedom
that you know allows you to spend more time with
your family. I love that other things because that was
one of the big things with me is that I

(13:36):
was I shot bound and I wasn't I was missing
critical moments with my my wife or my kids Saturdays.
It took me over twelve years to experience what a Saturday,
regular civilian happens. Of course, you can't take a Saturday
off as a barber. That's like prime time. That's prime time. Wow. No,
I really appreciate that perspective and sharing it because I think,

(13:59):
you know, people really have to let no matter what
business you're in, you have to, you know, build the
business with the foresight of building something that is a brand,
recognizing you're limited by how many hours you can cut hair,
and creating multiple and alternate streams of income, whether it's products,
you know, whether it's you know, having other chairs behind you.
But that's a really great perspective. Okay. I also have

(14:20):
a question like these hair cutting competitions, So when you
go to a conference and you're like winning a hair
cutting competition, did that help you succeed in business? Or
like what does that do for the brand in the business. Absolutely.
And the funny thing is the funny thing is my
real lass name is not Styles. A lot of people
think it's Styles. Um Touch. Styles is actually my barber
name that I just transferred over into the our community,

(14:43):
and a lot of people started calling me Chuch Styles
because I did so many different styles haircuts. Literally I
could probably put your face in the back of somebody's head.
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's how you still win a lot
of positions within an hour. I think it was like

(15:04):
an hour, hour and a half time. I would perform
like a nice cut, you know, um, you know from
what people can see front of you, but then in
the back I would do complete portraits of Michael Jordan's
or Caesar from Planet of the Apes or uh, Floyd Mayweather.
I did that, Lebron James, I did that um and

(15:24):
it ended up it ended up branting me a spot
on UM, a competition show hosted by Sed the Entertainer
that was on CW. Uh. You know that's kind of like, yeah,
I'm gonna have to talk to my man because he
has not had my face on the back of his heads,
so like, what are we really doing? I mean, you know,

(15:45):
all those all those little winds, all those little winds,
It goes into the success story of at the end
of the day, the brand, which is you. You know,
you can you can create all these other brands that
kind of live as a as a as its own entity.
But at the end of the day, you are your
own brand, and you are your brand where they they

(16:06):
want to see you in and they're here to champion you.
So all those little ways in my past life, if
the barber have carried over and they're seeing me do
incredible things, and you know, it all helps. It definitely
definitely helps with the support. So this makes a lot
of sense. Now, Chuck Styles one point oh was creating
art on the back of heads. Now Chuck Styles two

(16:27):
point oh is creating art. Because I was like, wow,
this is really an amazing transition. But it's just your
medium has changed. Yeah, yeah, that's it. So let's talk
about the art behind you. So now you've been painting
all along. You know, making it in this world as
an artist is really really difficult. But I think a
lot of that speaks to brand and marketing. And so

(16:48):
you already had like one leg in and that you
had an audience that was coming to you for your
talents and styles. You'd already branched out into you know,
selling art through unexpected places, I would say it conferences
and barbershops. How is it now, you know, being a
full time artist, and can you tell our audience how
you go about structuring this as a business as well,

(17:10):
because it's not you know, I think oftentimes when people
think about artists, they just think of some guy that's
just painting on a whimsye and you know, there's no
business to it. But if you want to eat, you
gotta have a business. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know
it was. It was funny. But like I said, one thing,
one thing that the barbering community um allowed me to,

(17:30):
uh just kind of have a clear eye view on
is knowing who your audience is. You know. So when
I was still a barber and I was doing art
specifically barber theme, it was it was like literally kids
in a candy shop because I spoke their language, the

(17:51):
art resonated with them in barbershops and here salons were
just heating it up. So when I when I transitioned
from being a barber to a full time artist, you know,
I have I have a few other themes that aren't
necessarily what you see behind me because it took me
a while to find my art voice. But then once
I figure out, you know, who I was and who
I wanted to represent and what my art wanted to represent,

(18:12):
I said, you know what I want to do primarily
black art that just like amplifies you know, the black
voice and gets people confidence and pride and who they
are and who we are. And knowing your audience is
like eighty percent battle. It's it's literally it's eighty If
you can if you can provide value to a community

(18:33):
of people and you're like there with them, that that
solves a lot of uh, you know, struggling artists, myths
and I think a lot of a lot of young
artists they just want to do what's fool with training
and you know, and it's it's just an audience for that,
But that audience is very fickle because they're onto the
next thing that's hot, you know what I mean. Um,

(18:55):
But that that helped out a lot is just knowing
who my audience is. Another thing that I know I
tend to do is um I look, you know, the
saying um uh. If you want to be wealthy that
you need seven streams of m I look at each
of my art pieces as um a way to create
seven streams. So if I create one artwork, that one artwork,

(19:18):
the original is one stream, princes is a second stream,
merchandise is the third stream. UM, any type of other
you know, UM, whether I want to do licensing licensing
is a is another stream. So it's artists must understand that.
You know, when you create an asset, that asset can
be broken down at a multiple different streams. Because some

(19:40):
people might love your artwork in different mediums and if
you're able to supply them that medium, then that can
create a whole different you know, a whole different tab
on your website for okay, so explain to me too.
So you do original works, you do prints, you do urch,
you do all sort of bins of your art. Have

(20:03):
you decided is one more lucrative than the other? Yes? Absolutely? UM,
so I used to do. I used to uh putting
events in art shows down in Miami for art bobs
on weekend. Our boss is really big, really competitive. I
I've been there several times this year. I came and
left not with art but a maicron. So that purpose

(20:31):
my my my first few times there, I think I
think I went under the guise of, Okay, this is
the super Bowl of art. Everybody feels like artwork, right.
I think the illusion that I told a lot of
young artists now, the illusion of art bossoms that you're
gonna go down there with your artwork and you're gonna

(20:53):
make a hundred thousand dollars selling your artwork, right, And
that's the dream. The reality is. I love that you said,
that's the dream. The reality is. The reality is when
I was down there on year three and I was
you know, I post my own events and so I

(21:13):
bring other artists on with me, and you know, we
share space. When I realized by year three was that
the art that I was trying to sell at the time,
I couldn't even afford it, right. So I'm like, man,
I'm I'm trying to sell artwork for like thirty thousand dollars.
I can't even afford my own artwork. And then I

(21:35):
realized the majority of people that are down there to
enjoy art bossle are like me there in a four
thirty thou dollar art pieces. So that's the that's the
reality that the majority of the people out of eighty
thousand people that come down to Miami to experience art Bosle,
I want to say, those people are just regular people

(21:57):
that are they're support and and look at art. So
what I said is, Okay, I want to service. So
what I'm gonna do is I'm going to restructure my
art business and not necessarily drive the focus on the
original artwork, but I'll provide high quality campus prints for
a fraction of the cars. So and I think this

(22:20):
also speaks to the strategy of getting your name out there,
you know, and people like people want to know, they're
like who styles check Stiles is art chextiles up? Because
they see it and then someone else can go buy it.
And you know, I think in our community that's really
huge because a lot of the people that go to
art Boss they're learning, you know, they're learning about art,
they're trying to figure out how to get into art,

(22:42):
what is great art? And so here you're you're flooding
the market. You're not flooding the market, but you're providing
something in a larger market pool. Yes, no, no, to
your point, absolutely, that's exactly how I thought, and I
know it was. It was. It was it was difficult
cool to explain to other artists or other people that

(23:03):
kind of had this stigma of oh, well, if you
do prints, isn't that going to devalue your work? And
I'm like, well, my work really doesn't have any value
of people don't know who I am. I have to
increase the demand first, and in order to decrease the demand,
gotta get out there, you know. So that was the
first run of you know, just going down to art

(23:24):
Boss and providing just canvas prints to people and people
said I can get that like three I said, yes, absolutely,
and we will ship it to you so you don't
even have to worry about taking it back off, which
I love that. Yes, absolutely, and we will ship it
to you. Piece of art and it's art. And I
think this is the thing, Like there's this misnomer about
the art world that it has to be you know,

(23:45):
super expensive, and but sometimes like art is just meant
to be enjoyed. And yes, you want to create add
value and it be an asset you know as it
grows and evolves, but sometimes it's just be getting in
on the bottom floor, having an eye, learning these things.
And yes, for three hundred dollars you can have this
piece of art and I'm gonna ship it to you.
People are gonna see it and they're gonna be like,
I would like one of those, absolutely, I mean, and

(24:07):
you know what also, you know would also kind of
like helped me, um go, because I was very much
like an elitist for a second where I was just like,
I'm not doing prints. Yeah, you know, but um it's
to to to make six figures as a as a
as an artist, all on your own terms, it's still
a success. And when I saw when I saw this

(24:30):
young this young girl ets, I think she was making
like a hundred thousand dollars a year. She was selling
Beyonce quotes on like in her own handwriting it slay
girl and straight from Beyonce songs, and she was clearing
six figures. And I said, that's that's the success story

(24:52):
that so many people need to see. Use that helped
transition into just being able to provide UM in a
different format and being comfortable with that. And so yeah's
your point. I mean, you got to educate people and
and I like that. I mean, I really love that
you even shared this young woman on Etsy, just being

(25:13):
like she was reselling handwritten beyond. There's a market for everything,
and you have to find your market. Listen, not all
of us are Barack and Michelle Obama, who can have
some artists paint them portraits of themselves. That's gonna go
tour like? That's not And you know what, some everybody's
art is different. Art is truly in the eye of
the beholder or the purchaser. So being able to find

(25:34):
your market, your marketplace is like I think the key
niche Okay, I do. Since your art is behind us,
I want to ask a couple of questions because there's
such a diverse array of different things that you've created
and painted, everything from a P and B peanut butter
and jelly sandwich too. I think that's ali that isn't
am I wrong? Yes? Okay? So what really inspires you

(25:57):
to create all these all this very different art? Um?
You know, I'm a big fan of music. My mother,
My mother was a musician, and I look at music
as a driving force to kind of like provide the
energy for my artwork. Um. I learned so much from
so many different industries and I look at my art

(26:18):
as the same way like a musical artist creates albums
so in order for me to stay within a certain
like theme or color story, UM, I like to make collections,
and within that collection you can kind of tell like, okay,
this was this was during this year, during this period,
and that was during that period. Kind of like an album,

(26:41):
you know, when you when you go back and look
at like, you know, Michael Jackson's like bad album, it's
just oh yeah, now I know all that's on that
album work, you know, yeah, yeah, like okay, you know,
I know exactly what songs are on that album. And
that's how I look at my artwork. So when you
see like the pimpleter and Jelly with the one order
shop any glass and then just wonder bread piece right here,

(27:04):
that was that was in in the time here where
I was doing a lot of Miami artwork and I
was trying to cater to you know, to get money
Miami art. Um. But then if you look at the
pieces that are all my walls, a lot of a
lot of black faces, a lot of black storytelling. Um.
Have Hank Aaron behind me over here, ye have yeah, yeah, yeah.

(27:27):
This piece I'm working on right now, it's inspired by
my wife and my daughters that I'm working on right now.
So that piece in the background is incomplete, it's not
finished yet, yes, yes, yes, gosh, I'm already drawn to
it already, so I can't wait to see what that
looks like. Thank you, thank you. So as of right now,
I'm just still I'm just still in this moment of

(27:49):
bright colors that invoked emotion. Um. I want you know,
at the end of the day, I I believe in
my you know, my talent to my skill, but I
also understand that you know, when you when you create art,
you you want there to be an emotional collection, and
I think that's the most important. So I just want
to make sure that you know, no matter what I paint,

(28:11):
you know there's that emotional connection with the viewer, whether
it's the content or the colors or the composition or
you know those things. Okay, what are your thoughts, because
I know the world is changing. We're talking a lot
about digital art and ft art um and how it
can help artists actually like m authenticate the provenance of

(28:32):
a piece of art and you know, collect royalties for
years to come. Do you think this is something that's
here to stay or just a quick fad um as
it pertains to art in particular. Mhmm, tough question. I
don't know, that's a good question. That's a good question
because I haven't I haven't released any n f T
s as of yet. Um, I'm not in a rush

(28:55):
because it's still very very necessary making it like, oh,
this gotta get in there, you gotta get down. And
it's just like it took a long time for people
to even catch up to the Internet, you know what
I mean, Like, you know what I mean, I remember,
you know, back when it was dial up and you

(29:17):
you know, and even before then, it was like the
Internet was out years before then. So right now n
f T s they're they're out. I do think that
they provide um another lane for you know, financial you know,
financial freedom. The thing, the thing that just kind of
scares me a little bit is that because it's from

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the blockchain, and um, I mean obviously the people that
run these platforms are a lot smaller than you and
I I'm just worried about security measures. Security is a
big issue in that industry for sure. Yeah, so I'm
seeing like you know, X, the X amount of dollars
just was stolen in board eights, you know, the w

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it's happening a lot. Yeah, So I do think that
there are there are positives to the n f T S.
I just still think that we are so far from
seeing what n f t S really can do in
a stable environment where you know, people can actually have
a plan and then that plan actually succeed, because right

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now everybody's just selling it's the wild wild West. I
admit I follow the industry. I'm into it, but it
is certainly so early that it is the wild wild West,
right right? Absolutely? Okay, So, last, but not least, I
want to dive into the piece of the conversation where
you're involved with TOPS for Projects seventy. Can you tell

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us a little bit about that? Oh Man, Tops, Tops,
uh just got finished scrapping up my tops project seventy
project where Tops were celebrating seventy years of providing cards
in the sports you know, uh, in the sports industry
and it's it's been incredible. And they chose fifty creatives

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to generate twenty cards, twenty unique cards for their set.
And some of the creatives that were involved in the
project was Snoop dogg Um. Yeah, Snoop, I'm I'm surprised
he took on this job because he has like a
thousand jobs right now, he does have a thousand jobs jobs.
Snoop Dog Action Bronson was a part of this set. Um,

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there's there's a lot of a lot of you know,
well known artists and creative Jett Staple Um, you know,
DJ dj Ski. It's like some of the people that
were involved in this project. I was just humbled to say, like, wow,
I'm here and um the project just commenced and I
actually finished in the top five UM sellers, selling over

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a million a million dollars worth of baseball cards with
fifty four thousand cards sold. Snoop love you look, but
I had to feel out of here, um and and
and yeah, it's just it's incredible to see that my
artwork is in a smaller format that will be hopefully
around past you know, my years on Earth, and you

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know my grandkids, and you know they'll be able to
pick up these cards somewhere around the world and say, yo,
you know what I mean, my father, my grandfather did
that card, or you know, if this if it ends
up being worth you know, thousands or a hundred thousand dollars.
Because baseball car community is a whole another whole another

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underground industry that is just like, it's not a lot
of buss in it, but there's a lot of money
in it, but there's a lot of I mean, you
are on the cusp of being an n f T artist.
I can tell you got the collectible piece. You're just
like you just need to tip the scale. I'm sure
next time we have you back here and be like
I just launched my whole collection. Were getting there for sure,

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but sure, amazing, congratulations, that's a lot of really great
stuff that you have happening. We don't have a lot
of time left, but tell us what's next for you.
Do you have any great collaborations or collections coming up?
And of course where we can find you on social
media to buy some of these great pieces. Absolutely, thank you. Um, well,
I just got finished. I just got finished coming back

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from Cleveland for NBA All Star weekend, UM where I
launched my collection UH and apparel with a company called
Damari Black owned owned by um former Philadelphia Eagles Malcolm Jenkins.
So that's that's his line and UM we successfully that

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are opening launched at sex Fifth Avenue in Cleveland over
the weekend. That's huge. Yeah, really good, really good turn out,
really good reception. Um so that just happened. And then
I'll be out in Vegas to celebrate Window Scott, which
was the first African American race car driver. I did
some artwork that honors Window Scott. Will be on every

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single NASCAR card in the in the coverage and be
on a big giant jumble to trying. Yeah. So I'm
excited for that. You know, I would have never thought
that I would have been doing artwork the NASCAR, But
I'm just glad that, um you know, here to help
tell our stories in unconventional ways. And just I mean
that's pretty like when you think about those unique avenues

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black people doing art for NASCAR racers, like that's pretty impressive.
And I think that matters so much like when we
talk about and I've heard you talk about representation, you know,
being an artist and looking up as a kid and
just being like, oh I can do that because he
did that. He did that, Like that's pretty impressive. So
congrats and kudos, Thank you so much, Thank you so much.

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And you know, last and not least, you know you
can find you can find my artwork at www dot
art Chuck styles dot com or on all social media
at Chuck Styles Too, at that at Chuck Styles Too,
s s at the end, Well, money Movers, we are
out of time for today. But you heard the man.
You heard where to follow him, so make sure you
check him out, support his art um and thank you

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again check Stiles for being with us today. You have
dropped so many gems. We're just appreciative your time, love
the work that you're doing. Thank you, Greenwich, I'll Greenwood,
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