August 18, 2023 • 33 mins
In this concluding episode with Jessica Harris-Dupart, we delve into her remarkable journey from being a self-starter to becoming a proficient team manager. She candidly recounts her experiences of navigating the uncharted waters of hiring, managing diverse personalities, and adjusting to the distinct rhythm of a startup's grind versus that of a corporate entity. Harris-Dupart opens up about the transformative power of authenticity on social media and how it played a pivotal role in monetizing her brand. She also shines a light on her philanthropic endeavors, sharing the inspiring story behind the creation of Kaleidoscope Cares, her impactful non-profit organization. Tune in as she imparts invaluable insights and reflections on her path to success, offering a beacon of guidance for aspiring entrepreneurs and business enthusiasts alike.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The biggest thing that you could do is be yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
And I know that I was real cliche, But as
soon as you start being something that you not, you're
gonna run out of the ideas.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're gonna be tied with the ideas, and you're gonna
be tied and doing a thing you never tied and
being yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Just be yourself, like me getting a live just being
myself actually monetize.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
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me on all things social at it's Tanya time to
stay locked into new episode. So I want to talk
about just leading a team and growing and building a team.
So you started off as an independent hairstylist, you started
growing this business, you started making products. When did you
start hiring people to like build out the team and
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work underneath you.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I had somebody that was my assistant, like she was
my shampoo girl, helping me do stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So she was the first person to help me pack packages.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And then because at first it was just me packing packages,
but then once the orders got to be so much
to where it was interfering with me doing hair, I
had her packing packages. And then it was, oh, now
we need somebody to talk to customer service because it's
not like we were doing stuff wrong, but people are
now asking questions, Hey, where's my order? How do we
get them their shit they're tracking in for?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Or how do we order this new stuff? Or Hey,
I want these shiny envelopes? How much do they cost?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Do we have enough?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
At the time, I wasn't shipping enough for the post
office to come to me to pick up stuff, So
she was bringing the orders to the post office while
they cursed out. You know, it was it was me,
then it was me and her. Then my mom retired
from the post office. She was over like some shipping
part of the post office, ironically, so I moved from
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I moved my inventory from inside of my house to
like a storage. So my mom started helping me figure
out how to, you know, how to do things, and
how to the best way to ship and get the
best raids and all the rest of that. And then
it was it was me, my assist, my mom. Then
it was me, my assistant, my mom, and we hired
another packer.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
So it's like your business tells you when you need it.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I think a lot of people will see this stuff
on social media, and I want to wear house. I
want this, I want that. I want to have a team.
I want to do this, that and the other. I
try to cut as many costs as Yep. Whatever I
could do I was doing, and whatever it is I
could do, I was doing. But then once I couldn't
do it no more, once it was compromising. How I
was showing up at my doing hair. The thing that was,
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you know, like my livelihood I was like, oh no,
we got to do something else. So once we started
shipping and we weren't shipping out fast enough, our leave
times were more than seven to ten days, I'm like, okay,
we need to hire another hand. And that stuff happened.
I was like, okay, I might need this, So okay,
I might need that. And then once we get into retail,
you need a whole sales team that's like a whole
different monster. So it was slowly, but shurely, but my
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business told me we need something else. It might not
have told me the exact role that I needed, but instead,
we need another hand to be able to do this.
Or hey, if we're doing social media, you might need
somebody to be able to run that page, so you
could run your page or do this.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So it's your business is gonna tell you. Trust me,
it's gonna scream it out.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Until fast forward now almost again to this tenure. How
many how many employees do you have?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
About twenty three?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Twenty three?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Twenty three?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Pee?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Is your mom still working with you?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
She's on my payroll, but she don't work. She don't goals?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
If that ain't goals, right, if that ain't goals, I'm
glad she worked at the post office. And now I
hope she wakes up every day and she just comes
over and looks at our little grand baby and your
big baby and she's just chilling her.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yes, I just chilling. So I have. And I never
knew about executives. I was like, what is an executive?
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
You know, like understanding because if I'm hiring somebody in
a professional role.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I've never been to college.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I never had to write a resume a day in
my life. So me writing, I'm thinking that it's the truth.
And I find out people don't tell the truth on
the resume. You're supposed to call up people that they saying.
And you know, everything has been a learning curve for
me because I've been hr, I've been a janitor, I've
been the packing and the s I've been marketing, I've
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been sales, I've been all parts. I've been operations. So
can't nobody come in and tell me what can't be done?
And can't tell me that, hey, we have three hundred emails,
it's gonna take me a week to do it. No,
Because I've had to do three hundred emails before.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
This is why I said you are such an epic
leader in your business, because I think the best leaders
understand what the left hand's doing, the right hand's doing,
with the brain, with the toe, with the foot, all
the way down to the nuance. You know, there's I mean,
I laugh at those Undercover Boss shows where you get
these people who have no idea what it takes to
like make the French fries or you know, because you
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have to know everything and your point. When you're talking
about someone goes, oh we can't do this or that's
not how it's done, You're like, oh, no, I've done it,
and then we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah yep. And I'm not It's not even that for me.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It's gonna be like okay, well let me know why
it's difficult for you, and let me explain to you.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
When I've had to do that before how I handled it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You see what I'm saying, Because now I think even
as a leader, every year I have to learn, I
have to learn how to better lead my team. I
think for me because I'm a self starter, because I'm
a person that is going to figure it out. When
I used to hire people that don't have that same
like that same trait. I wouldn't understand it and I
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would want to immediately get them off my team. But
then I had to realize, everybody is it gonna be
like that? So I had to learn how to work
with different kind of personalities, work with different kind of people,
and understand how to best support them because in hiring,
you're supposed to onboard them properly, give them the best
support that you.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Can and all gain. This is something that I had
to learn in the past twenty one you.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Can do the best job that they can.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Correct because for me, I felt like, if you come
in and you say you do this.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I'm just gonna let you do it right right.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
But I had to realize just because they did that
at these billion dollar brands doesn't mean that they're gonna
do that how you needed to be done the way
that you needed to be done. Because when they're handling
a billion dollar budget, they have seventy five people supporting
and o seventy five people are doing all of the
things that I'm expecting you to do exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
And this is that people honestly sometimes don't understand when
they come from like and you know, we're in Atlanta,
there's Coca Cola, there's this where they have these massive
corporate companies where people can hide in the weeds.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And so they think they're.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Going to come to a startup and they're gonna look
around them be like, I can do all this, and
then they're you're saying, well, you also got to clean
the toilets, and they're no, I don't do that in
my job because there were so many other layers in
those bigger organizations. But in a startup, the grind is
for everybody. You can't tell your boss, oh sorry, that's
not part of my job description.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
No way.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Even when you say clean the toilets, that does sound
a little bit harsh. Let me say this, So if
if I'm hiring a social media if I'm hiring a CMO, right,
which is the chief marketing office, I think that's what
it's called m I expecting the CMO to understand social media.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yes, I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Expect you to run the social media page, but I'm
expecting you to know how to manage it. So if
in fact, where you were you never had to touch
you, you never had to manage it, you never had to
do none of that your value to me then becomes different.
Because the CMO over here is gonna lead marketing. I'm
gonna support it. I'm gonna be the creative. I'm gonna
be the person that I've always been at this company.
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But once I hire you here, I'm hiring you with
the expectation of you managing all of these departments that
I'm gonna tell you how you know this is this
is where I see us in ten years. This is
how I want things, or these are the best practices,
this is how I got here, this is how I
do that.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
All I need you to do is manage and lead.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
But if you've never done that before, you don't even
understand what the algorithm is. You don't understand best posts
and times, you don't understand the planning tools for social media.
I need to know that, because again, if you're coming
from a place where you didn't have to do none
of that, your value to me is now different. So
if they've paid you two hundred thousand dollars and you
were a million dollar thing to them, if I pay
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you two hundred thousand dollars, one my two hundred thousand
dollars different from this.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh, it's right.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
And over here, I actually am expecting something different, and
it's not I'm trying to work you today. It's just
I know what I need out of the person that
I'm hiring.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
And I also think you know it goes twofold and
that you know, people in those roles, they need to
understand the job they're applying for. If you're staying just
going from corporate, bouncing around to corporate where there's agencies
and there's all these other layers to getting the job done,
don't think you're gonna come to a startup where the
grind is different. The grind very very different.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, And I also feel like, and not to say
nothing about corporate, but I also feel like the environment
is different too, because over there you have creative freedom
to I'm the person if you say, hey, we got
we I have this idea of us having a campaign
where we all jump out of a helicopter.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yes, And it's like so many people that couldn't gonna
say so many, But people that we've had come from
corporate come over here for the crew relief, and you
get the creative relief. But then it's also a different
it's different job duties. You know what I'm saying, Like, Yes,
this week, this is what we do it, but next
week I might need you to be over videography. Hey,
(10:13):
I hired you to be my creative, so I know
you do videography, but next week you might have to
do photos.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, you might have to do photos.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
And I'm not mad if your photos ain't the best,
but can we figure out how to get them better
than what they are?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So exactly, Okay, let's talk a little bit about social media,
because you know, you started as a hairdresser, but you've
gained this super impressive and powerful following on social media.
How did you do it?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
What came first?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Because I think a lot of times people are always like, well,
you know, it's easy for people like the Kardashians or
you know, or yourself, Judy depart, Right, she did it.
She's only making this product because she has this following
and I and that's not how it works.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
And you know the next thing that comes, Oh, she's
successful because she has the celebrity wife.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
First of all, when I met her, I was a Millionaiready.
Let's let's say that.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
First again, because that is one hundred percent facts, And
I actually think that was probably why she's like, who
that girl?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
She was intrigued by my inspirational things that I used
to do on social media. But for me, I had
seventeen hundred followers, Like when I first started trying to
put product out, it was it was literally seventeen I
have a screenshot, it was literally seventeen hundred followers.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And I didn't have a marketing budget either.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I was doing hair, but I also I had a house,
I had a family, stuff, I was playing for fun.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I didn't have a marketing budget and I didn't even
know what a budget was. So I did.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I found some people in my city that were like popular,
and we did the remake of Cops and I called
it the Edge Police, and we posted it on social media.
And what I did was, since I didn't have a budget,
I offered my services in exchange for them posting on
their platform. So I would do have for free. I
would give them bundles for free, they would post me.
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So we both were benefiting. They were getting the glam,
I was getting the exposure, and I was able to
grow my platform quite a bit. When I tell you,
Edge Police with no budget today was one of my
biggest ever campaigns, and that was my iPhones. This is
not all, this is no scripts, this is shaky hands.
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It just was real authentic stuff. And I'm big on comedy, right,
So the number one thing that we fixed is hair loss.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That subject for some people.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You have cancer patients, you have people that had domestic
violence issues, you have all of these different things. So
I felt like, let's take a let's lighten up the
load for people, and let's talk about it not as
such a not as such a heavy weight. So me
letting people know that hey, this fixes it in this way,
or even down to slick sleek edges. We used to
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in real time run up on people and slick their
hair down, like you know, like knock.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
On the door.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And we was in New Orleans and we say, hey,
the ash Poley's gonna be out this, you know, out
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Send us your friend address, then need the edges flick.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
This was before you had to sign waves and stuff
for recording people and idea, we was knocking on their
door and in real time we were slicking their head down.
So you were forced to see a tutorial and didn't
even know you was watching a tutorial.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Oh my gosh, see and this is the thing, like
one thing if y'all follow her like your stuff is
super creative and so you know, the budgets can change.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But honestly, as you're launching your business, like just you know,
whether it's humor or fact base, whatever it is, I
think you know your audience responds to these great campaigns.
And that was the big part. So now you're funny.
People are tuning in for the fun. You went from
seventeen hundred to what's your social media following? Now?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I amassed through all of my socials four point five
million between all of my socials and on my business page,
I think we had two million.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Okay, so as you've grown this, any tips anything else
for people that you can offer them for selling through
social media.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Was well not.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
For first of all, if we're gonna talk about it,
let's talk about how TikTok has now come around and
just crushed the whole. Everything has to be perfect clean,
everything has to be this, that and the other. Everybody
wants organic, so they don't care if you got makeup on,
They don't care if you got a set build. I
will never forget we remade wip right, Cardigi reposted anything.
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I got the whole set, I got the little fake snakes,
we did the whole thing right. That cost me six figures. Wow,
it's figgas to do that, and it was it was
cute and it was reposting, and we made.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Our money back.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
But now that same thing you could get done for
less than ten dollars because TikTok has made it to
where people want authenticity.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So even if you are doing a car to.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Be remake all, even if you are doing this and
the other, they don't care if your outfit is exactly
the same. They like the fact that it's real, it's raw,
it's this, that and the other. So anybody that ever
tells me that they have a budget issue, I look
at them cross eye because right now, because even me
as an influencer I promote I have this other company
that I promote, and my best performance post for them
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have always been it's not hey, I use this, this
is what I do. It's me trying to put on
the damn garment and my booty about to fall out.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
People. It's like the most authentic thing, the thing I'm
out of bread.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I can't breathe you know, it's like people relate the authenticity.
So right now, the biggest thing that you can do
is be yourself. And I know that I was real cliche,
But as soon as you start being something that you're not,
you're gonna run out of the ideas. You're gonna be
tied to the ideas, and you're gonna be tied of
doing the thing you never tied of, being yourself. Just
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just be yourself, Like me getting a live, just being
myself actually monetizes because me myself. I feel like me
being myself has has landed us a great television. Me
being myself has landed me great deals. Me being myself
has made our community for my brand, for the Coleidoscope
hair products brand.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
They trust me.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Because they know I'm not about to get on nan
cellim bullshit. They know that I have pride and everything
that I do. They know what I stand behind, and
they know I've always been inclusive. You know, like inclusivity
is a thing now, but I've always been inclusive. I've
always said I don't care if you ball short, I
don't care if you fan slim, whatever, We you know,
come over here.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
We support all of it.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And that's just being I love that. It's being yourself
and you something you also said, They're like, if you're yourself,
the ideas don't run out. You're not sitting there being
like what's the next best thing? Because you're just your
authentic self. Man, show up people. I love that. I
love that. All right, So now you're on social, I
want to talk about the TV show because you guys
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do have I mean, your wife is also very famous,
you guys, she's married to the They just had this
beautiful baby. How did that sort of impact things?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Was it positive?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Did it make a difference did it not really make
a difference because you'd already established such a business.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Season one, it made the biggest difference. Season one, I
put a commercial for Coaleidoscope through every commercial break, and
it was brand new eyes Like. This was people that
watched WeTV, so they were trying to see what the
show was about. They might not have followed me on social,
they might have no idea who I am or what
I do. It made our products go up and store
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by like eleven.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Wow, Okay, that's definitely.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Moving now season one.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Now, season two I did something similar and it wasn't
as much of a jump. But that's because now the community,
I mean, the people are kind of familiar with me. Yeah,
but then it definitely now it continues to do that
because my platforms grow from that. It's a different platform,
so my platforms grow from that. But season one was
the most impactful.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Wow, Okay, so it does help.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
That is great. That is great.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
All right. So now you've got millions of people with
their edges laid, you fix their bald spots. They're looking fine,
they're watching you on TV. Basically feels like you've met
your wife now and everything is perfect. But you know,
entrepreneurship is not without challenge, and you've had some major,
major challenges. Tell us about when your salon burned down
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and how heartbreaking that must have been.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I think it was a pivotal moment in my journey.
So I opened Kaladoscope Hair Studio in twenty thirteen, and
in twenty fourteen, I launched Coladoscope Hair Products because I
felt like I had to.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Come back bigger and better. When it happened, it wasn't
just me.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
It was me, and it was a few stylists in there,
so it wasn't just me that lost a place to
do hair. It was a few of us, so I
felt fully responsible to make sure that we had someone
else to work. And the city, the city of New
Orleans had such such an.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Outpouring of love.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
They had like different hairstylists coming donating, you know, like
Karl and Ize products to us, all of these different things,
and it just made me feel like, because so many
eyes are on me, I have to come out of
this bigger better and almost like prove a point that
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anything is possible. Because even though being from New Orleans
and you go through Katrina and you've lost everything once, right,
this was a kind of thing because it was something
that I had to see it right. So I got
a call. It was December fifteen, twenty thirteen. I will
never forget. I was sitting down with my family. We
was about to sing Happy Birthday to my sister.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
And.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I got a call that there was a motion center
at the salon and I'm calling people.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Y'all there, I know we're not there, y'all there, I
know we're not there.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And I had these two signs at the front of
the salon and they were smoke, and I was like,
what's going on with the science.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So I and then I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It was a fire, and I didn't know you Also,
when you opened the door and air hits it, it
blows you out the way. So I opened it and
I'm like, God, what is going on? So called, you know,
the fire department was called. I called out the stylists
that were in the area, and they they left it
that for a while because they had to do investigation
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and make sure that it wasn't on purpose. It wasn't this,
it wasn't that. So I couldn't visit it. But I
couldn't touch anything. I couldn't I couldn't get another products.
I had to just it's like God static there for
you to marin it in it is you. You have
to reflect on what this says, because because for me,
I'm big on what's the lesson I'm supposed to learn
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in this? I don't think I'm going through all this termoil,
going through all this pain for nothing. What's the lesson
that I'm supposed to learn in this? And so the
second time around, I did it, but I felt like
I was able to do it better. I learned how
to because before I had I had like two chandlers
in that they were like three thousand and four thousand
dollars a piece. I learned to buy chandeliz off a
dhgate that was two hundred dollars because I had to
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come back, and I had to come back, and the
insurance wasn't wasn't favoring.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
A lot for me.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
So that was a whole process that I couldn't wait for.
And I have pat people I was responsible for, so
I had to figure out how to get a good
amount of money to be able to start putting us
back in there once they let us start fixing it.
And so God, it's almost like God forced me to
have the budget.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Better do the same, but you have.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
To do it with one tenth of what you were
able to do it with before, and then in one
tenth at a time. I think from there it just
made me feel like, Okay, when Colleidoscope comes back, I
want to introduce products, because at that time, it was like,
even when I was selling it to my people, it
wasn't like blown up. I was like, Okay, let's come back,
Let's do a grand opening, Let's let the city come out,
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let's do all the things, let's celebrate as much as
we can. And it just was no turning bank. I
felt like, yeah, it was no turning bank. I felt
like I had I had a point to prove. There's
no way in the world I came this far to
lose everything to not keep going.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I'm you know, I feel like you also mentioned God
a lot in there too, and I just like that
is so important because I think He has just been
guiding you.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
And you got to listen.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
People don't know how much that factors into entrepreneurship, right
and the community around you. You spoke about how the
community came to support you. That's a beautiful, beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah. Yeah, when I say, I never forget that.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
So that's why I make sure as much as I
can to try to give back to my city as
much as I can.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
There's something about that too, because I know this it's
not just your city. Like your philanthropic efforts through Cobido
Scope Cares. I don't know what it's a day y'all today,
you know, really demonstrates your commitment to giving back when
you tell us more about the mission behind Kaleidoscope Cares
and some of the most rewarding moments you've experienced through
(23:07):
forming this nonprofit.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Again, I'm very transparent.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
So my accountant told me that I needed to get
a nonprofit because I have a big heart and I
give away a lot in your.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Transparency, the one right here.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
So I got a nonprofit.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So as I was giving away things, it was a
tax shelter because at the tax break that I was in,
if I gave somebody a car, and a car cost
me twenty thousand dollars, it cost me an additional ten
thousand dollars to give it, so it wound up being
thirty thousand.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
To me.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
That makes no sense because I could have gave that
ten thousand dollars to somebody to do something. So the
original nonprofit was based off of my given efforts and
making sure that we're doing it strategically versus just randomly
doing it because that's when Uncle Sam comes. My biggest
moments were the first time I broke againness world record.
(23:58):
We did it in a super dome. It was giving
away the most toys in an hour and I think
it was like five thousand, five, seven hundred and ninety
three toys and I was like, oh my god, I
did it. I did it with my best friend Super
who owns the crowon Okay. So We did it as
a collaborative effort. We did it on the field. We
(24:18):
were able to a lot of New Orleans kids and
parents and it was a phenomenal thing. It was a
feeling like no other. Like my dad's passed away, but
he used to be a giver. So stuff like that
always makes me feel connected to.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I did. I spoke another.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Guinness record in twenty twenty, and it was last year
we colleid of Scowl gave away the most hair products
in twenty four hours at Harlem Pride. So I was like,
they collect these things because it's it's like an almost good,
like almost bragging right thing, but then it's fulfillanthropic.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
It's not like I had getness.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
World record for the longest nails or none of it's
just for giving away the most.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Okay, first of all, well I grew up reading this
is like I'm going to date myself, y'all. But like
the Guinness Book of World Records was the thing you know,
you go to the library and take it out. So
the fact that I know someone who's broken not one,
but two Guinness World records, and especially for doing good,
like that's got a special girl, that's really special that
(25:20):
is very special.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Thank you, Thank you for your service. Thank you for
your service.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
And also doing it in New Orleans in the Superdome,
which you know just has such How do I say
about that? It's just the history post Katrina that is
really beautiful.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yes, yeah, Well.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
You are certainly inspiring and you are certainly you know,
blazing the world in like hair care and entrepreneurship. Tell
us what's coming next?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
What?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
What are some teasers that you can drop here about
what you're working on?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Oh my goodness, I did what I want to tell you,
this is one of my goals. I did Judy Drop
I did Judy Drop of Knowledge Tour twenty eighteen. I
did a Judy Dropping Holarge show in twenty nineteen. And
in twenty nineteen I taught I think it was eighteen
thy seven hundred and fifty people, Oh, eighteen thousand and
five ninety something like that. And when I did it,
(26:18):
I also a part of my lesson was preay through
the process, so in that over nine thousand people actually
gave their life to God. So I want to be
able to get out there and teach again. I just
have not been able to make time. So my goal
for twenty twenty four is to actually do judy drop
of knowledge at least one more time. So that is
(26:39):
a big I am really working towards that.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Okay, in between being a new mom, you got a
baby in the house. I love this too, Like just
even talking about goals, right, how do you now you've
got incredible success? Like, how do you still manage setting
bigger goals for yourself?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Or are you.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Able to balance being like, hey, I need to take
a rest and I can't figure this out because, like
I said, you have a three week old baby and
you're out here. This is work, it's fun, we get
to chat, but you know, how do you sort of
make that balance of like I'm constantly striving for more,
but I want to find happiness and peace and some
(27:25):
sort of balance in life.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I think I had to learn that you don't have
to take yourself away for a week.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I've learned.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I've had to learn that sometimes it's taken thirty minutes
every here and there. Sometimes it's waking up in the
morning before everybody else does, or before there's the moving
and the shaking and listening to a podcast that you
really might be interested in. I have not been able
to master balance of taking myself away for a week
(27:53):
or for a month.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
But I've been.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Able to understand balance for me looks like still being active,
because when I do take myself for a day or
two days, I'm not at peace. So I feel like
balance to everybody should be whatever their definition is instead
of what the standard is or what people make it
look like, or on social you see people flying from
here to there and all the rest of that. Like
(28:17):
I think I posted the other day, your your goal
shouldn't be what you see, like girl, let's fly to
Dubai and all the rest of that.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I don't even like flights that's passed four hours.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
So if you know, like if you're not a person
that that is cool with sit on a plane that long,
that shouldn't even be nowhere on your goal list. It's
it's okay to have a goal list to go to
the park three times three times a week and work
out like that could that is actually a goal?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That is such the way you set.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
One of my highest goals right like that self care.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I feel like we're in this world of social media
and also all the stuff that be CAP when I
say cap this cap everywhere that we get We dilute
our own thoughts sometime and we think that we have
to be like this person on that person. When what
you have to I feel like you have to sit
back and reflect on what actually makes you happy?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Now what looks good?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Because you can be happy for somebody else on social media,
but what you looking at somebody else be happy? That
is a sense of happiness for you. But what makes
you happy for yourself?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Oh, that is such a word, because you know, I
think oftentimes too, that's part of the rat race, thinking that, oh,
the happiness is I need to be in Bali for
a week or two weeks, doing nothing, sipping a cocktail.
But like I do think like once you get to
the point where you realize true happiness is like I'm
sitting on the couch with my person and we're relaxed
(29:45):
and we're having a good time.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
We went on a walk and.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Like you got twenty four hours in the day. You
have the choice to decide this small activity was my
gift to myself and that made me happy.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
And not only if you don't appreciate the small things,
why should I give the big ones? If you don't
appreciate the five minutes, why should he give you five days,
five months, or even five years of relaxation, because I
feel like he can step in and speed up your plans.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
You can have the ten year plan. He can make
that happen in two years.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
But if you don't appreciate the five minutes, he not
gonna give you a five year break.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
He is not.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Oh this is church. Okay, wait tell me again about
you called it learnings with Julie.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Judy dropping knowledge.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Judy dropping knowledge.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Girl.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I've been talkingroping because this is what we know. This
is on your goal list, Judy dropping knowledge. But I
love it because you're out there saving souls, bringing joy,
helping people make money and their money moves. We will
look forward to that in twenty twenty four and we're
gonna let you get back to your baby. But before
you leave, can you please tell all these money movers
(30:52):
where they can find your product, where they can swipe
their card and find you on.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Social Okay, sure, you can find our products and all
national resellers like Walmart, Targets, Sally's, Myers, Kroger, hu B, CBS,
Walgreens and many Moore.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Or you can go to our website.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I Lovecolors dot com and that's l u v I
l u v c O l O r s dot com.
And you can find us on social at Colleidoscope Pair
Products and myself at the Real bb Judy and s
d A r e A l bb j U d
Y And.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
When we see your show coming back to b TV, Yes,
we're excited with that little baby be on there because
we're tuning in.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yes, the baby's gonna be on there with my with
my crazy wife that is a crazy mom.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
So yes, I love it. I can't wait to tune in,
Money Movers. There you have it. Oh, this was such
an incredible interview. Thank you so much, Judy. Make sure
you check out all her products for your edges, your
bald spots, for your healthy hair growth, all of it,
all of that. Make sure you check her out on
we TV as well, and thank you so much for
(32:00):
your time today.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
It's such a oh thanks for having me. Thanks for
having me. I'm so excited.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
All right, money Movers, that's all the time we have
for today. But make sure you check out our guests
on all your social media handles and make sure you
tune into money Move so that you can make your
money move. Here's a sneak peak of next week's episode.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I had success very early on as a production assistant
and I was like, I know everything, So that humbled me, Tanya.
So when I got to do the reality show and
I was like, no, I'm meant to do this, and
I learned my lesson. I'm I'm never going to complain
to this day. I just I don't complain. I think
complaining is and I'm.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Going to say it.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Complaining is telling God he got it wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
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me on all things social at it's Tanya time to
stay locked into new episode. So I want to talk
about just leading a team and growing and building a team.
So you started off as an independent hairstylist, you started
growing this business, you started making products. When did you
start hiring people to like build out the team and
(01:28):
work underneath you.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I had somebody that was my assistant, like she was
my shampoo girl, helping me do stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So she was the first person to help me pack packages.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And then because at first it was just me packing packages,
but then once the orders got to be so much
to where it was interfering with me doing hair, I
had her packing packages. And then it was, oh, now
we need somebody to talk to customer service because it's
not like we were doing stuff wrong, but people are
now asking questions, Hey, where's my order? How do we
get them their shit they're tracking in for?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Or how do we order this new stuff? Or Hey,
I want these shiny envelopes? How much do they cost?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Do we have enough?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
At the time, I wasn't shipping enough for the post
office to come to me to pick up stuff, So
she was bringing the orders to the post office while
they cursed out. You know, it was it was me,
then it was me and her. Then my mom retired
from the post office. She was over like some shipping
part of the post office, ironically, so I moved from
(02:28):
I moved my inventory from inside of my house to
like a storage. So my mom started helping me figure
out how to, you know, how to do things, and
how to the best way to ship and get the
best raids and all the rest of that. And then
it was it was me, my assist, my mom. Then
it was me, my assistant, my mom, and we hired
another packer.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
So it's like your business tells you when you need it.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I think a lot of people will see this stuff
on social media, and I want to wear house. I
want this, I want that. I want to have a team.
I want to do this, that and the other. I
try to cut as many costs as Yep. Whatever I
could do I was doing, and whatever it is I
could do, I was doing. But then once I couldn't
do it no more, once it was compromising. How I
was showing up at my doing hair. The thing that was,
(03:11):
you know, like my livelihood I was like, oh no,
we got to do something else. So once we started
shipping and we weren't shipping out fast enough, our leave
times were more than seven to ten days, I'm like, okay,
we need to hire another hand. And that stuff happened.
I was like, okay, I might need this, So okay,
I might need that. And then once we get into retail,
you need a whole sales team that's like a whole
different monster. So it was slowly, but shurely, but my
(03:35):
business told me we need something else. It might not
have told me the exact role that I needed, but instead,
we need another hand to be able to do this.
Or hey, if we're doing social media, you might need
somebody to be able to run that page, so you
could run your page or do this.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So it's your business is gonna tell you. Trust me,
it's gonna scream it out.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Until fast forward now almost again to this tenure. How
many how many employees do you have?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
About twenty three?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Twenty three?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Twenty three?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Pee?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Is your mom still working with you?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
She's on my payroll, but she don't work. She don't goals?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
If that ain't goals, right, if that ain't goals, I'm
glad she worked at the post office. And now I
hope she wakes up every day and she just comes
over and looks at our little grand baby and your
big baby and she's just chilling her.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yes, I just chilling. So I have. And I never
knew about executives. I was like, what is an executive?
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
You know, like understanding because if I'm hiring somebody in
a professional role.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I've never been to college.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I never had to write a resume a day in
my life. So me writing, I'm thinking that it's the truth.
And I find out people don't tell the truth on
the resume. You're supposed to call up people that they saying.
And you know, everything has been a learning curve for
me because I've been hr, I've been a janitor, I've
been the packing and the s I've been marketing, I've
(05:01):
been sales, I've been all parts. I've been operations. So
can't nobody come in and tell me what can't be done?
And can't tell me that, hey, we have three hundred emails,
it's gonna take me a week to do it. No,
Because I've had to do three hundred emails before.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
This is why I said you are such an epic
leader in your business, because I think the best leaders
understand what the left hand's doing, the right hand's doing,
with the brain, with the toe, with the foot, all
the way down to the nuance. You know, there's I mean,
I laugh at those Undercover Boss shows where you get
these people who have no idea what it takes to
like make the French fries or you know, because you
(05:37):
have to know everything and your point. When you're talking
about someone goes, oh we can't do this or that's
not how it's done, You're like, oh, no, I've done it,
and then we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah yep. And I'm not It's not even that for me.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It's gonna be like okay, well let me know why
it's difficult for you, and let me explain to you.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
When I've had to do that before how I handled it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You see what I'm saying, Because now I think even
as a leader, every year I have to learn, I
have to learn how to better lead my team. I
think for me because I'm a self starter, because I'm
a person that is going to figure it out. When
I used to hire people that don't have that same
like that same trait. I wouldn't understand it and I
(06:18):
would want to immediately get them off my team. But
then I had to realize, everybody is it gonna be
like that? So I had to learn how to work
with different kind of personalities, work with different kind of people,
and understand how to best support them because in hiring,
you're supposed to onboard them properly, give them the best
support that you.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Can and all gain. This is something that I had
to learn in the past twenty one you.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Can do the best job that they can.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Correct because for me, I felt like, if you come
in and you say you do this.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I'm just gonna let you do it right right.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
But I had to realize just because they did that
at these billion dollar brands doesn't mean that they're gonna
do that how you needed to be done the way
that you needed to be done. Because when they're handling
a billion dollar budget, they have seventy five people supporting
and o seventy five people are doing all of the
things that I'm expecting you to do exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
And this is that people honestly sometimes don't understand when
they come from like and you know, we're in Atlanta,
there's Coca Cola, there's this where they have these massive
corporate companies where people can hide in the weeds.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And so they think they're.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Going to come to a startup and they're gonna look
around them be like, I can do all this, and
then they're you're saying, well, you also got to clean
the toilets, and they're no, I don't do that in
my job because there were so many other layers in
those bigger organizations. But in a startup, the grind is
for everybody. You can't tell your boss, oh sorry, that's
not part of my job description.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
No way.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Even when you say clean the toilets, that does sound
a little bit harsh. Let me say this, So if
if I'm hiring a social media if I'm hiring a CMO, right,
which is the chief marketing office, I think that's what
it's called m I expecting the CMO to understand social media.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yes, I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Expect you to run the social media page, but I'm
expecting you to know how to manage it. So if
in fact, where you were you never had to touch
you, you never had to manage it, you never had to
do none of that your value to me then becomes different.
Because the CMO over here is gonna lead marketing. I'm
gonna support it. I'm gonna be the creative. I'm gonna
be the person that I've always been at this company.
(08:19):
But once I hire you here, I'm hiring you with
the expectation of you managing all of these departments that
I'm gonna tell you how you know this is this
is where I see us in ten years. This is
how I want things, or these are the best practices,
this is how I got here, this is how I
do that.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
All I need you to do is manage and lead.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
But if you've never done that before, you don't even
understand what the algorithm is. You don't understand best posts
and times, you don't understand the planning tools for social media.
I need to know that, because again, if you're coming
from a place where you didn't have to do none
of that, your value to me is now different. So
if they've paid you two hundred thousand dollars and you
were a million dollar thing to them, if I pay
(08:59):
you two hundred thousand dollars, one my two hundred thousand
dollars different from this.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh, it's right.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
And over here, I actually am expecting something different, and
it's not I'm trying to work you today. It's just
I know what I need out of the person that
I'm hiring.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
And I also think you know it goes twofold and
that you know, people in those roles, they need to
understand the job they're applying for. If you're staying just
going from corporate, bouncing around to corporate where there's agencies
and there's all these other layers to getting the job done,
don't think you're gonna come to a startup where the
grind is different. The grind very very different.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, And I also feel like, and not to say
nothing about corporate, but I also feel like the environment
is different too, because over there you have creative freedom
to I'm the person if you say, hey, we got
we I have this idea of us having a campaign
where we all jump out of a helicopter.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yes, And it's like so many people that couldn't gonna
say so many, But people that we've had come from
corporate come over here for the crew relief, and you
get the creative relief. But then it's also a different
it's different job duties. You know what I'm saying, Like, Yes,
this week, this is what we do it, but next
week I might need you to be over videography. Hey,
(10:13):
I hired you to be my creative, so I know
you do videography, but next week you might have to
do photos.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, you might have to do photos.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
And I'm not mad if your photos ain't the best,
but can we figure out how to get them better
than what they are?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So exactly, Okay, let's talk a little bit about social media,
because you know, you started as a hairdresser, but you've
gained this super impressive and powerful following on social media.
How did you do it?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
What came first?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Because I think a lot of times people are always like, well,
you know, it's easy for people like the Kardashians or
you know, or yourself, Judy depart, Right, she did it.
She's only making this product because she has this following
and I and that's not how it works.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
And you know the next thing that comes, Oh, she's
successful because she has the celebrity wife.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
First of all, when I met her, I was a Millionaiready.
Let's let's say that.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
First again, because that is one hundred percent facts, And
I actually think that was probably why she's like, who
that girl?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
She was intrigued by my inspirational things that I used
to do on social media. But for me, I had
seventeen hundred followers, Like when I first started trying to
put product out, it was it was literally seventeen I
have a screenshot, it was literally seventeen hundred followers.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And I didn't have a marketing budget either.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I was doing hair, but I also I had a house,
I had a family, stuff, I was playing for fun.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I didn't have a marketing budget and I didn't even
know what a budget was. So I did.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I found some people in my city that were like popular,
and we did the remake of Cops and I called
it the Edge Police, and we posted it on social media.
And what I did was, since I didn't have a budget,
I offered my services in exchange for them posting on
their platform. So I would do have for free. I
would give them bundles for free, they would post me.
(12:01):
So we both were benefiting. They were getting the glam,
I was getting the exposure, and I was able to
grow my platform quite a bit. When I tell you,
Edge Police with no budget today was one of my
biggest ever campaigns, and that was my iPhones. This is
not all, this is no scripts, this is shaky hands.
(12:21):
It just was real authentic stuff. And I'm big on comedy, right,
So the number one thing that we fixed is hair loss.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That subject for some people.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You have cancer patients, you have people that had domestic
violence issues, you have all of these different things. So
I felt like, let's take a let's lighten up the
load for people, and let's talk about it not as
such a not as such a heavy weight. So me
letting people know that hey, this fixes it in this way,
or even down to slick sleek edges. We used to
(12:50):
in real time run up on people and slick their
hair down, like you know, like knock.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
On the door.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And we was in New Orleans and we say, hey,
the ash Poley's gonna be out this, you know, out
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Send us your friend address, then need the edges flick.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
This was before you had to sign waves and stuff
for recording people and idea, we was knocking on their
door and in real time we were slicking their head down.
So you were forced to see a tutorial and didn't
even know you was watching a tutorial.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Oh my gosh, see and this is the thing, like
one thing if y'all follow her like your stuff is
super creative and so you know, the budgets can change.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But honestly, as you're launching your business, like just you know,
whether it's humor or fact base, whatever it is, I
think you know your audience responds to these great campaigns.
And that was the big part. So now you're funny.
People are tuning in for the fun. You went from
seventeen hundred to what's your social media following? Now?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I amassed through all of my socials four point five
million between all of my socials and on my business page,
I think we had two million.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Okay, so as you've grown this, any tips anything else
for people that you can offer them for selling through
social media.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Was well not.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
For first of all, if we're gonna talk about it,
let's talk about how TikTok has now come around and
just crushed the whole. Everything has to be perfect clean,
everything has to be this, that and the other. Everybody
wants organic, so they don't care if you got makeup on,
They don't care if you got a set build. I
will never forget we remade wip right, Cardigi reposted anything.
(14:33):
I got the whole set, I got the little fake snakes,
we did the whole thing right. That cost me six figures. Wow,
it's figgas to do that, and it was it was
cute and it was reposting, and we made.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Our money back.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
But now that same thing you could get done for
less than ten dollars because TikTok has made it to
where people want authenticity.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So even if you are doing a car to.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Be remake all, even if you are doing this and
the other, they don't care if your outfit is exactly
the same. They like the fact that it's real, it's raw,
it's this, that and the other. So anybody that ever
tells me that they have a budget issue, I look
at them cross eye because right now, because even me
as an influencer I promote I have this other company
that I promote, and my best performance post for them
(15:19):
have always been it's not hey, I use this, this
is what I do. It's me trying to put on
the damn garment and my booty about to fall out.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
People. It's like the most authentic thing, the thing I'm
out of bread.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I can't breathe you know, it's like people relate the authenticity.
So right now, the biggest thing that you can do
is be yourself. And I know that I was real cliche,
But as soon as you start being something that you're not,
you're gonna run out of the ideas. You're gonna be
tied to the ideas, and you're gonna be tied of
doing the thing you never tied of, being yourself. Just
(15:53):
just be yourself, Like me getting a live, just being
myself actually monetizes because me myself. I feel like me
being myself has has landed us a great television. Me
being myself has landed me great deals. Me being myself
has made our community for my brand, for the Coleidoscope
hair products brand.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
They trust me.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Because they know I'm not about to get on nan
cellim bullshit. They know that I have pride and everything
that I do. They know what I stand behind, and
they know I've always been inclusive. You know, like inclusivity
is a thing now, but I've always been inclusive. I've
always said I don't care if you ball short, I
don't care if you fan slim, whatever, We you know,
come over here.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
We support all of it.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And that's just being I love that. It's being yourself
and you something you also said, They're like, if you're yourself,
the ideas don't run out. You're not sitting there being
like what's the next best thing? Because you're just your
authentic self. Man, show up people. I love that. I
love that. All right, So now you're on social, I
want to talk about the TV show because you guys
(16:56):
do have I mean, your wife is also very famous,
you guys, she's married to the They just had this
beautiful baby. How did that sort of impact things?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Was it positive?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Did it make a difference did it not really make
a difference because you'd already established such a business.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Season one, it made the biggest difference. Season one, I
put a commercial for Coaleidoscope through every commercial break, and
it was brand new eyes Like. This was people that
watched WeTV, so they were trying to see what the
show was about. They might not have followed me on social,
they might have no idea who I am or what
I do. It made our products go up and store
(17:33):
by like eleven.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Wow, Okay, that's definitely.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Moving now season one.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Now, season two I did something similar and it wasn't
as much of a jump. But that's because now the community,
I mean, the people are kind of familiar with me. Yeah,
but then it definitely now it continues to do that
because my platforms grow from that. It's a different platform,
so my platforms grow from that. But season one was
the most impactful.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Wow, Okay, so it does help.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
That is great. That is great.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
All right. So now you've got millions of people with
their edges laid, you fix their bald spots. They're looking fine,
they're watching you on TV. Basically feels like you've met
your wife now and everything is perfect. But you know,
entrepreneurship is not without challenge, and you've had some major,
major challenges. Tell us about when your salon burned down
(18:25):
and how heartbreaking that must have been.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I think it was a pivotal moment in my journey.
So I opened Kaladoscope Hair Studio in twenty thirteen, and
in twenty fourteen, I launched Coladoscope Hair Products because I
felt like I had to.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Come back bigger and better. When it happened, it wasn't
just me.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
It was me, and it was a few stylists in there,
so it wasn't just me that lost a place to
do hair. It was a few of us, so I
felt fully responsible to make sure that we had someone
else to work. And the city, the city of New
Orleans had such such an.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Outpouring of love.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
They had like different hairstylists coming donating, you know, like
Karl and Ize products to us, all of these different things,
and it just made me feel like, because so many
eyes are on me, I have to come out of
this bigger better and almost like prove a point that
(19:27):
anything is possible. Because even though being from New Orleans
and you go through Katrina and you've lost everything once, right,
this was a kind of thing because it was something
that I had to see it right. So I got
a call. It was December fifteen, twenty thirteen. I will
never forget. I was sitting down with my family. We
was about to sing Happy Birthday to my sister.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
And.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I got a call that there was a motion center
at the salon and I'm calling people.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Y'all there, I know we're not there, y'all there, I
know we're not there.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And I had these two signs at the front of
the salon and they were smoke, and I was like,
what's going on with the science.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So I and then I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It was a fire, and I didn't know you Also,
when you opened the door and air hits it, it
blows you out the way. So I opened it and
I'm like, God, what is going on? So called, you know,
the fire department was called. I called out the stylists
that were in the area, and they they left it
that for a while because they had to do investigation
(20:24):
and make sure that it wasn't on purpose. It wasn't this,
it wasn't that. So I couldn't visit it. But I
couldn't touch anything. I couldn't I couldn't get another products.
I had to just it's like God static there for
you to marin it in it is you. You have
to reflect on what this says, because because for me,
I'm big on what's the lesson I'm supposed to learn
(20:44):
in this? I don't think I'm going through all this termoil,
going through all this pain for nothing. What's the lesson
that I'm supposed to learn in this? And so the
second time around, I did it, but I felt like
I was able to do it better. I learned how
to because before I had I had like two chandlers
in that they were like three thousand and four thousand
dollars a piece. I learned to buy chandeliz off a
dhgate that was two hundred dollars because I had to
(21:08):
come back, and I had to come back, and the
insurance wasn't wasn't favoring.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
A lot for me.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
So that was a whole process that I couldn't wait for.
And I have pat people I was responsible for, so
I had to figure out how to get a good
amount of money to be able to start putting us
back in there once they let us start fixing it.
And so God, it's almost like God forced me to
have the budget.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Better do the same, but you have.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
To do it with one tenth of what you were
able to do it with before, and then in one
tenth at a time. I think from there it just
made me feel like, Okay, when Colleidoscope comes back, I
want to introduce products, because at that time, it was like,
even when I was selling it to my people, it
wasn't like blown up. I was like, Okay, let's come back,
Let's do a grand opening, Let's let the city come out,
(21:56):
let's do all the things, let's celebrate as much as
we can. And it just was no turning bank. I
felt like, yeah, it was no turning bank. I felt
like I had I had a point to prove. There's
no way in the world I came this far to
lose everything to not keep going.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I'm you know, I feel like you also mentioned God
a lot in there too, and I just like that
is so important because I think He has just been
guiding you.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
And you got to listen.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
People don't know how much that factors into entrepreneurship, right
and the community around you. You spoke about how the
community came to support you. That's a beautiful, beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah. Yeah, when I say, I never forget that.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
So that's why I make sure as much as I
can to try to give back to my city as
much as I can.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
There's something about that too, because I know this it's
not just your city. Like your philanthropic efforts through Cobido
Scope Cares. I don't know what it's a day y'all today,
you know, really demonstrates your commitment to giving back when
you tell us more about the mission behind Kaleidoscope Cares
and some of the most rewarding moments you've experienced through
(23:07):
forming this nonprofit.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Again, I'm very transparent.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
So my accountant told me that I needed to get
a nonprofit because I have a big heart and I
give away a lot in your.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Transparency, the one right here.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
So I got a nonprofit.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So as I was giving away things, it was a
tax shelter because at the tax break that I was in,
if I gave somebody a car, and a car cost
me twenty thousand dollars, it cost me an additional ten
thousand dollars to give it, so it wound up being
thirty thousand.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
To me.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
That makes no sense because I could have gave that
ten thousand dollars to somebody to do something. So the
original nonprofit was based off of my given efforts and
making sure that we're doing it strategically versus just randomly
doing it because that's when Uncle Sam comes. My biggest
moments were the first time I broke againness world record.
(23:58):
We did it in a super dome. It was giving
away the most toys in an hour and I think
it was like five thousand, five, seven hundred and ninety
three toys and I was like, oh my god, I
did it. I did it with my best friend Super
who owns the crowon Okay. So We did it as
a collaborative effort. We did it on the field. We
(24:18):
were able to a lot of New Orleans kids and
parents and it was a phenomenal thing. It was a
feeling like no other. Like my dad's passed away, but
he used to be a giver. So stuff like that
always makes me feel connected to.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I did. I spoke another.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Guinness record in twenty twenty, and it was last year
we colleid of Scowl gave away the most hair products
in twenty four hours at Harlem Pride. So I was like,
they collect these things because it's it's like an almost good,
like almost bragging right thing, but then it's fulfillanthropic.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
It's not like I had getness.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
World record for the longest nails or none of it's
just for giving away the most.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Okay, first of all, well I grew up reading this
is like I'm going to date myself, y'all. But like
the Guinness Book of World Records was the thing you know,
you go to the library and take it out. So
the fact that I know someone who's broken not one,
but two Guinness World records, and especially for doing good,
like that's got a special girl, that's really special that
(25:20):
is very special.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Thank you, Thank you for your service. Thank you for
your service.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
And also doing it in New Orleans in the Superdome,
which you know just has such How do I say
about that? It's just the history post Katrina that is
really beautiful.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yes, yeah, Well.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
You are certainly inspiring and you are certainly you know,
blazing the world in like hair care and entrepreneurship. Tell
us what's coming next?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
What?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
What are some teasers that you can drop here about
what you're working on?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Oh my goodness, I did what I want to tell you,
this is one of my goals. I did Judy Drop
I did Judy Drop of Knowledge Tour twenty eighteen. I
did a Judy Dropping Holarge show in twenty nineteen. And
in twenty nineteen I taught I think it was eighteen
thy seven hundred and fifty people, Oh, eighteen thousand and
five ninety something like that. And when I did it,
(26:18):
I also a part of my lesson was preay through
the process, so in that over nine thousand people actually
gave their life to God. So I want to be
able to get out there and teach again. I just
have not been able to make time. So my goal
for twenty twenty four is to actually do judy drop
of knowledge at least one more time. So that is
(26:39):
a big I am really working towards that.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Okay, in between being a new mom, you got a
baby in the house. I love this too, Like just
even talking about goals, right, how do you now you've
got incredible success? Like, how do you still manage setting
bigger goals for yourself?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Or are you.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Able to balance being like, hey, I need to take
a rest and I can't figure this out because, like
I said, you have a three week old baby and
you're out here. This is work, it's fun, we get
to chat, but you know, how do you sort of
make that balance of like I'm constantly striving for more,
but I want to find happiness and peace and some
(27:25):
sort of balance in life.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I think I had to learn that you don't have
to take yourself away for a week.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I've learned.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I've had to learn that sometimes it's taken thirty minutes
every here and there. Sometimes it's waking up in the
morning before everybody else does, or before there's the moving
and the shaking and listening to a podcast that you
really might be interested in. I have not been able
to master balance of taking myself away for a week
(27:53):
or for a month.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
But I've been.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Able to understand balance for me looks like still being active,
because when I do take myself for a day or
two days, I'm not at peace. So I feel like
balance to everybody should be whatever their definition is instead
of what the standard is or what people make it
look like, or on social you see people flying from
here to there and all the rest of that. Like
(28:17):
I think I posted the other day, your your goal
shouldn't be what you see, like girl, let's fly to
Dubai and all the rest of that.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I don't even like flights that's passed four hours.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
So if you know, like if you're not a person
that that is cool with sit on a plane that long,
that shouldn't even be nowhere on your goal list. It's
it's okay to have a goal list to go to
the park three times three times a week and work
out like that could that is actually a goal?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That is such the way you set.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
One of my highest goals right like that self care.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I feel like we're in this world of social media
and also all the stuff that be CAP when I
say cap this cap everywhere that we get We dilute
our own thoughts sometime and we think that we have
to be like this person on that person. When what
you have to I feel like you have to sit
back and reflect on what actually makes you happy?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Now what looks good?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Because you can be happy for somebody else on social media,
but what you looking at somebody else be happy? That
is a sense of happiness for you. But what makes
you happy for yourself?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Oh, that is such a word, because you know, I
think oftentimes too, that's part of the rat race, thinking that, oh,
the happiness is I need to be in Bali for
a week or two weeks, doing nothing, sipping a cocktail.
But like I do think like once you get to
the point where you realize true happiness is like I'm
sitting on the couch with my person and we're relaxed
(29:45):
and we're having a good time.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
We went on a walk and.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Like you got twenty four hours in the day. You
have the choice to decide this small activity was my
gift to myself and that made me happy.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
And not only if you don't appreciate the small things,
why should I give the big ones? If you don't
appreciate the five minutes, why should he give you five days,
five months, or even five years of relaxation, because I
feel like he can step in and speed up your plans.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
You can have the ten year plan. He can make
that happen in two years.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
But if you don't appreciate the five minutes, he not
gonna give you a five year break.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
He is not.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Oh this is church. Okay, wait tell me again about
you called it learnings with Julie.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Judy dropping knowledge.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Judy dropping knowledge.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Girl.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I've been talkingroping because this is what we know. This
is on your goal list, Judy dropping knowledge. But I
love it because you're out there saving souls, bringing joy,
helping people make money and their money moves. We will
look forward to that in twenty twenty four and we're
gonna let you get back to your baby. But before
you leave, can you please tell all these money movers
(30:52):
where they can find your product, where they can swipe
their card and find you on.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Social Okay, sure, you can find our products and all
national resellers like Walmart, Targets, Sally's, Myers, Kroger, hu B, CBS,
Walgreens and many Moore.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Or you can go to our website.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I Lovecolors dot com and that's l u v I
l u v c O l O r s dot com.
And you can find us on social at Colleidoscope Pair
Products and myself at the Real bb Judy and s
d A r e A l bb j U d
Y And.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
When we see your show coming back to b TV, Yes,
we're excited with that little baby be on there because
we're tuning in.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yes, the baby's gonna be on there with my with
my crazy wife that is a crazy mom.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
So yes, I love it. I can't wait to tune in,
Money Movers. There you have it. Oh, this was such
an incredible interview. Thank you so much, Judy. Make sure
you check out all her products for your edges, your
bald spots, for your healthy hair growth, all of it,
all of that. Make sure you check her out on
we TV as well, and thank you so much for
(32:00):
your time today.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
It's such a oh thanks for having me. Thanks for
having me. I'm so excited.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
All right, money Movers, that's all the time we have
for today. But make sure you check out our guests
on all your social media handles and make sure you
tune into money Move so that you can make your
money move. Here's a sneak peak of next week's episode.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I had success very early on as a production assistant
and I was like, I know everything, So that humbled me, Tanya.
So when I got to do the reality show and
I was like, no, I'm meant to do this, and
I learned my lesson. I'm I'm never going to complain
to this day. I just I don't complain. I think
complaining is and I'm.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Going to say it.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Complaining is telling God he got it wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
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