June 16, 2021 • 29 mins
After Isaiah reveals his secret to Kat, the duo attempts to track down answers to what might be happening to him. Michelle informs Ashley about the DNA results from Gabe’s backpack, confirming that he most likely is dead, but Michelle isn't convinced his presumed death was accidental.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mordeo is a production of I Heart Radio, Blumhouse Television,
and Crypto TV in association with Wolf at the Door.
I used to know the difference between the fact and fiction,
(00:22):
truth and untrue. But the thread separating our awakened lives
from my nightmares it's fragile. If you pull it, the
whole fabric of what you thought was real, it falls apart.
(00:51):
This is Mardale. Come on, don't toward me. Last pack. Thanks,
(01:24):
don't you quit? And then we burned a man's body
and I became an accessory to murder you. Okay, No,
I mean, Isaiah, you really expect me to believe any
of this? I need you to believe it. Can't listen.
I grew up in Salem, the Salem. I've heard some
(01:45):
crazy ship over the years. But when we're talking about now,
this isn't a ghost story. This is impossible. You don't
think I know that. You don't think I know hive sounds.
You don't think I've realized God, damn it. Sorry that's me.
I should have never brought you here. Yeah, well I'm here. Now.
Let's just start from the beginning again. You say you
(02:08):
hear these voices, and then what everything conveniently goes dark.
I swear, that's all I can remember before it happens,
except what. I can't help you unless you tell me everything.
The pain, it's the worse I've ever felt, even worse
than the I d okay, So after the voices, after
the blackouts, you just wake up to a trail of
(02:30):
dead bodies. Usually find the blood first. Usually, God, how
many people have you actually done this too? Just Paul,
He's he was the first, only a few animals before that.
What kind of animals there was a possible once? I
think only founders till these episodes. I guess I don't know. Cat.
(02:53):
If I knew, we wouldn't be in this fucking message.
You gotta give me something, Isaiah, anything. I guess. It's
worse when I'm tending, threatened, scared, and when I'm reminded
of the woods of Gate. The last moment I spent
with my brother. Yeah, just a love game. My leg stopped.
(03:30):
We lost as it. We're head of dweast. Like you said,
we'll run straight into the highway. If that was true,
we would have made it five days ago. It's still
following us and we need to keep moving. Let's say it.
(03:51):
I can't hear it. What are you talking about? It's
in my head? Whisps to me? Is it? Since the hell? Here? Hey?
You need to keep it together. I cannot do this, Loan,
I need you. What happens when you don't well? I'm
too much of a burden. I leave no man behind ever.
(04:15):
Come on, we'll keep heading these. Yeah, Isaiah? Is it?
Are you? I'm fine, It's fine. Sometimes I can stop it.
(04:37):
I don't know why do you think? And I'm not
trying to be a dismissive dick here, but could this
be some manifestation of PTSD? I'm a marine, I know PTSD,
and as someone who is also a marine, I'm saying
it's worth considering. What's more likely, Isaiah? That you have
trauma that's screwing with your mind, or that you become
(04:58):
something inhuman you can't contry roll. You think I could
do something like that to Paul of my own bare hands.
Maybe not your bare hands, considering the evulsion wounds. You're
not listening, cat. Whenever I've become it completely takes over.
I'm not me anymore. That's what scares me. I can't
stop it. Who keeps conne it's my boss. I'm supposed
(05:19):
to be at work an hour ago. The first day.
You need to answer what you need to go to work?
What am I gonna do? Pretend like I didn't just
collect the man his body parts from the woods, answert
the phone. Look, I don't know what to believe about
what's happening to you, but I do know if you
don't act like everything is pech keen, both of our
(05:40):
assets are getting thrown into prison for the rest of
our lives. You said yourself, there's no trail to us.
There's always a trail. Think about it. Another person's gone
missing and the town funk up who happened to be
the sole survivor of a mysterious disappearance in the woods,
is acting aloof skipping out on a new job you
financially depends on scene with an out of town or
(06:02):
who he puts up at the Bates Motel. Handsl and
Gretel could find us. Answering, Isaiah, answer it, there's nothing.
(06:26):
There's nothing. I understand what you're saying, But my husband's
been missing for over two months, and the mortgage doesn't
just stop me and do well. If the policy doesn't
cover something, like this. What exactly does it cover? Hey mom, Mom?
Why are the cops at Mr douglas house? What? I
(06:47):
don't know? Can you turn your show down please? So
so basically, you'll need his cold dead heart on a
platter before we can make a claim. Something bad must
have happened, Jocelyn, Please, I'm on the phone. And what
if the police aren't willing to report a presumed death,
there's nothing we can do. Of course, I want them
(07:12):
to find my husband, so you know what, can I
please talk to your supervisor. You've got an attitude problem
that I don't enough happy to deal with this morning.
Check the rear door and windows for signs of forest entry.
(07:32):
I want to know if anyone was in this house
besides Paul Douglas. Well, there can't let you go any
further but having to Mr Douglas. Oh, we're just checking
out his house to make sure there's nothing to worry about.
It sounds like a lot of cops to just check
out a house. You're Johnson right. My name is Detective Read.
(07:53):
I'm working on your dad's case. I know I've done
your parents and uncle a long time, since we we're
your age. I know that too. I heard they didn't
like you very much. Well, their grandpa, n Esto and
I used to be partners who seemed to get along
just fine. Hell special, do you think what happened my
dad happened to Mr Douglas. I think they are two
(08:17):
very different cases. They're both missing, though, aren't they. That's
why these police are here. You're observing. I always was too.
Let me ask you. Have you noticed anything weird around
here lately? What do you mean? Could be small of things,
(08:37):
anyone coming and going late at night, someone you know
that may say one thing but does another. It sounds
like you're trying to trick me into saying something I
didn't know I needed to. Now I'm thinking I do.
That's my mom. I should get back sure. Oh and Jocelyn,
(09:00):
so how do your uncle for me? Said sneaking inside
(09:21):
when the coast is clear? You don't understand why I
had to come along. Look, I'll be back as soon
as I can. You're the homicidal one, and somehow I'm
stuck hiding on the floor of your dirty escar. This
is bullshit, Mr Williams. I didn't expect this type of
(09:44):
unreliability from you. Mrs Marshall, I apologize, save your energy.
I'm too old for excuses and too tired for drama.
But if it happens again, you're fired. Get it? Yes? Good? Now?
This way? Is it always this dead? Closed for Labor Day?
(10:09):
I thought we'd take advantage of the daylight to show
you around the nooks and crannies, so you'll have to
get used to being here alone after hours. Everything looks
a little different in the dark. Layouts easy enough, four
wings connected off the main section. It's an old building,
(10:29):
so it'll creak and scare the but Jesus out of you.
Old girls like her and me like to play tricks.
These should get you to almost every door in the place.
Gonna need a sturdy belt for all those never believed
in the skeleton key of sorts. Nowhere to hide the skeletons.
(10:51):
Huh Isaiah, it was a joke, kid, right, Yeah, I
get this. Here is the surveillance room. Still got to
keep a close eye. Only the front and back entrances
record anything public funding for you, And what's behind that
(11:12):
door down there doesn't matter. Haven't given you a key
for the south wing yet? What's in there? We have
some artifacts that are historical, don't worry about that. For now.
You're welcome to any of the library's resources, as long
as I'm not re catalog and in the morning obviously,
(11:35):
no guests, coital or otherwise. Oh and you'll be armed,
just a stun gun, of course. I bought it personally,
for whoever I hired sheriff wouldn't approve one. But the
internet shut did I think that about does it? It's
(11:56):
no Smithsonian, but I think it means something. I hope
you find it means something to you too. I'll try
not to let you down, Mrs Marshall. I hope you won't.
I really do. Nor thirty eight O one O two
(12:21):
west eighty five h I'll be damned. All these roads
lead back to the manonga Hilla. But why these exact coordinates, Michelle, Hey, cap,
come take a look at this. Working on the Douglas case,
(12:41):
and I found this notebook full of time stamps and coordinates.
I think he was tracking something someone back to the
forest almost every night for the past month, Michelle. The
rest of it is written in some indigenous language. I
think might even be a code or something. I guess
he was something of a cons farishy theorist. Michelle I
(13:02):
just came by to see those DNA results for myself
from my son, right of course. Here, Uh, it's the
full report. I sent the backpack to the state investigators,
hoping they can help pinpoint the other said we couldn't
identify strange. I thought seeing it for myself and make
(13:25):
it easier, but it somehow makes me feel even worse.
I'm sorry, cap, Really, I had actually taken when you
told her you haven't informed. I only called you because
the results were inconclusive. I thought, as my mentor, as
(13:45):
your mentor, this is my son, I know, I just
my god, you wanted me to tell her? That's really
why you called. Are you that much of a coward?
Or you just that child? I didn't call her because
the results were inconclusive, but I guess I should have.
It was a lapse in judgment. Acting on your grudges
(14:09):
is not a lapse in judgment, Michelle. It's a lapsing character.
That's rich coming from you. Did you learn about character
while downing a bottle of jim bean? You inform her
today or I make a call to your father. Are
you serious? I'm not some sixteen year old prom queen.
I'm an officer of the law. Then act like it
(14:47):
Jesus the last time I claimed through with the this Elbert.
Then he gets with the beast. I'm loo getting tonight.
I won't get so young. The cameras at the door,
I recorded, and then I want to risky. No, I
agree the seven is the better. I'm just wondering how
anything in here is supposed to help us. Well, Mrs
(15:07):
Marshall hired me. She said something that I can't shake.
She said, our various survival depends on the history store
in this place. I can't have been the first one
and experience whatever happened out in the wood is right.
I mean, I'm not the first one to have something
follow me out. Somewhere in here. There could be answers.
We just need to find them. Hi. There, you've reached
(15:37):
Ashley's voicemail. Please leave a message, Ashley, It's Detective read Michelle. UM.
When you get a chance, I'd like you to come
down to the station. I have something important to discuss
with you, and it's now a good time, Ashley. Sorry,
I didn't mean to sneak up. One of the officers
told me I could come back and the doors open. No, yeah,
(16:00):
come in and have a seat. What brought you down here?
I came into ask about Gabe's case. I guess to
understand a little bit more about well about where we
go from here, what ticks back next? Maybe. I know
(16:22):
you keep saying that Hope is important, but the reality is,
you know he's not here, and practically speaking, I don't
know how long I can keep my life afloat on hope. Sorry,
I have a point in saying all this, It's just
it sounds so cold and calculated. Yeah, how did you?
(16:48):
First thing I looked for was Gabe's life insurance policy
spoke to motive in the case of foul play, no fans,
but the spouse is usually the first suspect. But I
suppose you found out they won't pay out on a
missing person. I shouldn't have come. I don't even know
what I'm asking for. Really, you're asking for answers. I'm
(17:14):
asking you to tell me my husband is dead. Ashley.
I was calling you to come down here because we
found something. On the last search. I found something found.
What we recovered a backpack. It had been significantly damaged,
(17:36):
no contents inside, but what there was a large amount
of blood. Blood. We we tested against the samples you
provided from Gabe's belongings and it was match. This is
the full report. H I came here to convince you,
(18:07):
to plead you to say he was dead, but I
never thought it was true. I thought I thought maybe
still come back. Oh God, he's not coming back. He's not, Ashley.
(18:31):
With the new evidence, I have enough to report Gabe
as a presumptive death. This would help you get everything
you need from his policy, but understand it would change
the nature of this case to a potential homicide. Homicide
(18:53):
you think someone did something to him. I can't say
for sure, but there is a huge gap in what
we know about what happened, and if I can be frank,
my gut is telling me that there's only one person
that can fill in that gap. You're talking about Isaiah. No,
(19:16):
no way. He wouldn't do anything to Gape. He's not
that kind of person. But he knows more than he's
told us. And I need to know why this is
low even for you, Ashley. If change in Gabe's case
status means you're trying to pin this on Isaiah, then
(19:39):
I don't want to beget any part of it. I'm
not helping you destroy him all over again. And what
if he does know something? To stop trying to stir
ship up just so you can feel important, stay away
from my family. UM wanted you show a cat. There's
(20:06):
a whole sectional apex predators over here. I think that's
worth anything. Cat here, Any luck on your end? Yeah,
I think so. I'll come to you. I found a
few books on this first settle that's here on a
Chris Falls. It sounds like the mananga hell of Force
was known for some which stuff I feel strivesly promising.
(20:30):
What's that? Would you describe your thoughts as disorganized or erratic?
I mean sure you have long periods of memory loss
or disassociation. Seriously, what are you reading auditory hallucinations the
feeling of being controlled? Let me see the diagnostic and
(20:51):
statistical manual mental disorders. If addition, do you think I'm schinsophrenic? Now? No,
but I think you should start accepting the possibility that
you're not possessed by some evil entity that takes control
of your body and makes some cute people. I'm not crazy.
Mental illness is real, Isaiah, and what I've been telling
you is real. Cats. Sorry, Gay, we've got the ration ration?
(21:26):
What wait less ship? What day is it? I saw
a patch Morrel's earlier. Once light hits, we can probably
find something for breakfast. Bro, it wants us to start.
God damn it. Could you knock it off with that ship?
(21:47):
Don't I know? You hate me? Okay, what are you
talking about? Na? No? No, I see you hate me
for ridding you out to Dad. I think your old
torch your life as my funk. But you're the one
who stole my prescription pass. Yeah, using her deaf your
old game. Our family needed that money. Ship. I hate
(22:09):
you too sometimes you know that I hate what you did,
and I'm glad that sent you the military school. You
got exactly what was coming to you, and you stepped
on that fucking bomb. Stop waste energy. You want to
go game and said that you want to leave your wife,
your daughter, You want to give up. They can smell
(22:33):
your fear. I say, make you smell your anger, your weakness.
You can't hide from them. Godemnica, we can hide, Bro,
that's nowhere to hide. It's real. Cat, I'm not crazy.
(22:54):
I never said you were crazy. Was that. It's coming
from the back hall. Don't walk towards it. Would you
go for help? I am help. Remember see a uniform?
God damn it. Maybe you should give me your gun.
I'm sure it's nothing. It's not what we find I
needed for you. This is the exact type of tense
(23:16):
situation you're described as a trigger. Wait, this is just
a stunt gun. You want to shoot me with a
real one? This way? H Wait that's impossible. Oh God?
What the door down the south wing is open? Did
you forget to lock it? I don't have a key,
(23:37):
but it was locked earlier today. This is security? Is
there anyone down there? This is your last warning. I
am fully armed and prepared to sue. Turning on the lights,
main calm. No one has to get hurt. M There's
(24:01):
no way, Jesus Christ. I'm gonna have a heart attack
before thirty. I wonder how this got open? What is
this place? Must be the historical society or car looks
like Edgar had in pose with dream, So this stuff
has to be centried on. I see what she meant
(24:23):
by a thing irreplaceable? Who firearms? Batman? I've never seen
a good old fashioned elephants gotten up close. These are antiques. Jesus.
This leaves to amazement of something to steal. Doors, scratched
and dented the ship. I say, y'all, come here. Now,
(24:48):
look at this skull. These antlers aren't early as hell,
No way, this thing is a deer though. Look at
the size of the teeth. Predator for sure. Okay, there
are drawings too, and almost human. Have you seen this?
I sea, I say, yea true hid hill, open the door.
(25:19):
Listen to me. Whatever you're feeling in in your head,
hidea hidea oh my god saying, can't be believing. It's
(25:54):
a lot. In the end, what helps us make sense
of the world is we choose to unsee next time
(26:18):
on more day. We can't run from this anymore. Take
my gun, you shoot, and you don't stop. If I
come for you, you take me out. That's in order.
Everything was my idea. I say, you're moving here the
fucking camping trip. I told him to God, please no.
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Person's co producers ben So Tack, Anthony Magnolo, Associate producer
Federico Trago. Starring j L. Fons, Nicholson as Isaiah, Ashley
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Platts as Ashley, Olivia Lott as Jocelyn Yvonne as Michelle,
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I used to know the difference between the fact and fiction,
(00:22):
truth and untrue. But the thread separating our awakened lives
from my nightmares it's fragile. If you pull it, the
whole fabric of what you thought was real, it falls apart.
(00:51):
This is Mardale. Come on, don't toward me. Last pack. Thanks,
(01:24):
don't you quit? And then we burned a man's body
and I became an accessory to murder you. Okay, No,
I mean, Isaiah, you really expect me to believe any
of this? I need you to believe it. Can't listen.
I grew up in Salem, the Salem. I've heard some
(01:45):
crazy ship over the years. But when we're talking about now,
this isn't a ghost story. This is impossible. You don't
think I know that. You don't think I know hive sounds.
You don't think I've realized God, damn it. Sorry that's me.
I should have never brought you here. Yeah, well I'm here. Now.
Let's just start from the beginning again. You say you
(02:08):
hear these voices, and then what everything conveniently goes dark.
I swear, that's all I can remember before it happens,
except what. I can't help you unless you tell me everything.
The pain, it's the worse I've ever felt, even worse
than the I d okay, So after the voices, after
the blackouts, you just wake up to a trail of
(02:30):
dead bodies. Usually find the blood first. Usually, God, how
many people have you actually done this too? Just Paul,
He's he was the first, only a few animals before that.
What kind of animals there was a possible once? I
think only founders till these episodes. I guess I don't know. Cat.
(02:53):
If I knew, we wouldn't be in this fucking message.
You gotta give me something, Isaiah, anything. I guess. It's
worse when I'm tending, threatened, scared, and when I'm reminded
of the woods of Gate. The last moment I spent
with my brother. Yeah, just a love game. My leg stopped.
(03:30):
We lost as it. We're head of dweast. Like you said,
we'll run straight into the highway. If that was true,
we would have made it five days ago. It's still
following us and we need to keep moving. Let's say it.
(03:51):
I can't hear it. What are you talking about? It's
in my head? Whisps to me? Is it? Since the hell? Here? Hey?
You need to keep it together. I cannot do this, Loan,
I need you. What happens when you don't well? I'm
too much of a burden. I leave no man behind ever.
(04:15):
Come on, we'll keep heading these. Yeah, Isaiah? Is it?
Are you? I'm fine, It's fine. Sometimes I can stop it.
(04:37):
I don't know why do you think? And I'm not
trying to be a dismissive dick here, but could this
be some manifestation of PTSD? I'm a marine, I know PTSD,
and as someone who is also a marine, I'm saying
it's worth considering. What's more likely, Isaiah? That you have
trauma that's screwing with your mind, or that you become
(04:58):
something inhuman you can't contry roll. You think I could
do something like that to Paul of my own bare hands.
Maybe not your bare hands, considering the evulsion wounds. You're
not listening, cat. Whenever I've become it completely takes over.
I'm not me anymore. That's what scares me. I can't
stop it. Who keeps conne it's my boss. I'm supposed
(05:19):
to be at work an hour ago. The first day.
You need to answer what you need to go to work?
What am I gonna do? Pretend like I didn't just
collect the man his body parts from the woods, answert
the phone. Look, I don't know what to believe about
what's happening to you, but I do know if you
don't act like everything is pech keen, both of our
(05:40):
assets are getting thrown into prison for the rest of
our lives. You said yourself, there's no trail to us.
There's always a trail. Think about it. Another person's gone
missing and the town funk up who happened to be
the sole survivor of a mysterious disappearance in the woods,
is acting aloof skipping out on a new job you
financially depends on scene with an out of town or
(06:02):
who he puts up at the Bates Motel. Handsl and
Gretel could find us. Answering, Isaiah, answer it, there's nothing.
(06:26):
There's nothing. I understand what you're saying, But my husband's
been missing for over two months, and the mortgage doesn't
just stop me and do well. If the policy doesn't
cover something, like this. What exactly does it cover? Hey mom, Mom?
Why are the cops at Mr douglas house? What? I
(06:47):
don't know? Can you turn your show down please? So
so basically, you'll need his cold dead heart on a
platter before we can make a claim. Something bad must
have happened, Jocelyn, Please, I'm on the phone. And what
if the police aren't willing to report a presumed death,
there's nothing we can do. Of course, I want them
(07:12):
to find my husband, so you know what, can I
please talk to your supervisor. You've got an attitude problem
that I don't enough happy to deal with this morning.
Check the rear door and windows for signs of forest entry.
(07:32):
I want to know if anyone was in this house
besides Paul Douglas. Well, there can't let you go any
further but having to Mr Douglas. Oh, we're just checking
out his house to make sure there's nothing to worry about.
It sounds like a lot of cops to just check
out a house. You're Johnson right. My name is Detective Read.
(07:53):
I'm working on your dad's case. I know I've done
your parents and uncle a long time, since we we're
your age. I know that too. I heard they didn't
like you very much. Well, their grandpa, n Esto and
I used to be partners who seemed to get along
just fine. Hell special, do you think what happened my
dad happened to Mr Douglas. I think they are two
(08:17):
very different cases. They're both missing, though, aren't they. That's
why these police are here. You're observing. I always was too.
Let me ask you. Have you noticed anything weird around
here lately? What do you mean? Could be small of things,
(08:37):
anyone coming and going late at night, someone you know
that may say one thing but does another. It sounds
like you're trying to trick me into saying something I
didn't know I needed to. Now I'm thinking I do.
That's my mom. I should get back sure. Oh and Jocelyn,
(09:00):
so how do your uncle for me? Said sneaking inside
(09:21):
when the coast is clear? You don't understand why I
had to come along. Look, I'll be back as soon
as I can. You're the homicidal one, and somehow I'm
stuck hiding on the floor of your dirty escar. This
is bullshit, Mr Williams. I didn't expect this type of
(09:44):
unreliability from you. Mrs Marshall, I apologize, save your energy.
I'm too old for excuses and too tired for drama.
But if it happens again, you're fired. Get it? Yes? Good? Now?
This way? Is it always this dead? Closed for Labor Day?
(10:09):
I thought we'd take advantage of the daylight to show
you around the nooks and crannies, so you'll have to
get used to being here alone after hours. Everything looks
a little different in the dark. Layouts easy enough, four
wings connected off the main section. It's an old building,
(10:29):
so it'll creak and scare the but Jesus out of you.
Old girls like her and me like to play tricks.
These should get you to almost every door in the place.
Gonna need a sturdy belt for all those never believed
in the skeleton key of sorts. Nowhere to hide the skeletons.
(10:51):
Huh Isaiah, it was a joke, kid, right, Yeah, I
get this. Here is the surveillance room. Still got to
keep a close eye. Only the front and back entrances
record anything public funding for you, And what's behind that
(11:12):
door down there doesn't matter. Haven't given you a key
for the south wing yet? What's in there? We have
some artifacts that are historical, don't worry about that. For now.
You're welcome to any of the library's resources, as long
as I'm not re catalog and in the morning obviously,
(11:35):
no guests, coital or otherwise. Oh and you'll be armed,
just a stun gun, of course. I bought it personally,
for whoever I hired sheriff wouldn't approve one. But the
internet shut did I think that about does it? It's
(11:56):
no Smithsonian, but I think it means something. I hope
you find it means something to you too. I'll try
not to let you down, Mrs Marshall. I hope you won't.
I really do. Nor thirty eight O one O two
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west eighty five h I'll be damned. All these roads
lead back to the manonga Hilla. But why these exact coordinates, Michelle, Hey, cap,
come take a look at this. Working on the Douglas case,
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and I found this notebook full of time stamps and coordinates.
I think he was tracking something someone back to the
forest almost every night for the past month, Michelle. The
rest of it is written in some indigenous language. I
think might even be a code or something. I guess
he was something of a cons farishy theorist. Michelle I
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just came by to see those DNA results for myself
from my son, right of course. Here, Uh, it's the
full report. I sent the backpack to the state investigators,
hoping they can help pinpoint the other said we couldn't
identify strange. I thought seeing it for myself and make
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it easier, but it somehow makes me feel even worse.
I'm sorry, cap, Really, I had actually taken when you
told her you haven't informed. I only called you because
the results were inconclusive. I thought, as my mentor, as
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your mentor, this is my son, I know, I just
my god, you wanted me to tell her? That's really
why you called. Are you that much of a coward?
Or you just that child? I didn't call her because
the results were inconclusive, but I guess I should have.
It was a lapse in judgment. Acting on your grudges
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is not a lapse in judgment, Michelle. It's a lapsing character.
That's rich coming from you. Did you learn about character
while downing a bottle of jim bean? You inform her
today or I make a call to your father. Are
you serious? I'm not some sixteen year old prom queen.
I'm an officer of the law. Then act like it
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Jesus the last time I claimed through with the this Elbert.
Then he gets with the beast. I'm loo getting tonight.
I won't get so young. The cameras at the door,
I recorded, and then I want to risky. No, I
agree the seven is the better. I'm just wondering how
anything in here is supposed to help us. Well, Mrs
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Marshall hired me. She said something that I can't shake.
She said, our various survival depends on the history store
in this place. I can't have been the first one
and experience whatever happened out in the wood is right.
I mean, I'm not the first one to have something
follow me out. Somewhere in here. There could be answers.
We just need to find them. Hi. There, you've reached
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Ashley's voicemail. Please leave a message, Ashley, It's Detective read Michelle. UM.
When you get a chance, I'd like you to come
down to the station. I have something important to discuss
with you, and it's now a good time, Ashley. Sorry,
I didn't mean to sneak up. One of the officers
told me I could come back and the doors open. No, yeah,
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come in and have a seat. What brought you down here?
I came into ask about Gabe's case. I guess to
understand a little bit more about well about where we
go from here, what ticks back next? Maybe. I know
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you keep saying that Hope is important, but the reality is,
you know he's not here, and practically speaking, I don't
know how long I can keep my life afloat on hope. Sorry,
I have a point in saying all this, It's just
it sounds so cold and calculated. Yeah, how did you?
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First thing I looked for was Gabe's life insurance policy
spoke to motive in the case of foul play, no fans,
but the spouse is usually the first suspect. But I
suppose you found out they won't pay out on a
missing person. I shouldn't have come. I don't even know
what I'm asking for. Really, you're asking for answers. I'm
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asking you to tell me my husband is dead. Ashley.
I was calling you to come down here because we
found something. On the last search. I found something found.
What we recovered a backpack. It had been significantly damaged,
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no contents inside, but what there was a large amount
of blood. Blood. We we tested against the samples you
provided from Gabe's belongings and it was match. This is
the full report. H I came here to convince you,
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to plead you to say he was dead, but I
never thought it was true. I thought I thought maybe
still come back. Oh God, he's not coming back. He's not, Ashley.
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With the new evidence, I have enough to report Gabe
as a presumptive death. This would help you get everything
you need from his policy, but understand it would change
the nature of this case to a potential homicide. Homicide
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you think someone did something to him. I can't say
for sure, but there is a huge gap in what
we know about what happened, and if I can be frank,
my gut is telling me that there's only one person
that can fill in that gap. You're talking about Isaiah. No,
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no way. He wouldn't do anything to Gape. He's not
that kind of person. But he knows more than he's
told us. And I need to know why this is
low even for you, Ashley. If change in Gabe's case
status means you're trying to pin this on Isaiah, then
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I don't want to beget any part of it. I'm
not helping you destroy him all over again. And what
if he does know something? To stop trying to stir
ship up just so you can feel important, stay away
from my family. UM wanted you show a cat. There's
(20:06):
a whole sectional apex predators over here. I think that's
worth anything. Cat here, Any luck on your end? Yeah,
I think so. I'll come to you. I found a
few books on this first settle that's here on a
Chris Falls. It sounds like the mananga hell of Force
was known for some which stuff I feel strivesly promising.
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What's that? Would you describe your thoughts as disorganized or erratic?
I mean sure you have long periods of memory loss
or disassociation. Seriously, what are you reading auditory hallucinations the
feeling of being controlled? Let me see the diagnostic and
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statistical manual mental disorders. If addition, do you think I'm schinsophrenic? Now? No,
but I think you should start accepting the possibility that
you're not possessed by some evil entity that takes control
of your body and makes some cute people. I'm not crazy.
Mental illness is real, Isaiah, and what I've been telling
you is real. Cats. Sorry, Gay, we've got the ration ration?
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What wait less ship? What day is it? I saw
a patch Morrel's earlier. Once light hits, we can probably
find something for breakfast. Bro, it wants us to start.
God damn it. Could you knock it off with that ship?
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Don't I know? You hate me? Okay, what are you
talking about? Na? No? No, I see you hate me
for ridding you out to Dad. I think your old
torch your life as my funk. But you're the one
who stole my prescription pass. Yeah, using her deaf your
old game. Our family needed that money. Ship. I hate
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you too sometimes you know that I hate what you did,
and I'm glad that sent you the military school. You
got exactly what was coming to you, and you stepped
on that fucking bomb. Stop waste energy. You want to
go game and said that you want to leave your wife,
your daughter, You want to give up. They can smell
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your fear. I say, make you smell your anger, your weakness.
You can't hide from them. Godemnica, we can hide, Bro,
that's nowhere to hide. It's real. Cat, I'm not crazy.
(22:54):
I never said you were crazy. Was that. It's coming
from the back hall. Don't walk towards it. Would you
go for help? I am help. Remember see a uniform?
God damn it. Maybe you should give me your gun.
I'm sure it's nothing. It's not what we find I
needed for you. This is the exact type of tense
(23:16):
situation you're described as a trigger. Wait, this is just
a stunt gun. You want to shoot me with a
real one? This way? H Wait that's impossible. Oh God?
What the door down the south wing is open? Did
you forget to lock it? I don't have a key,
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but it was locked earlier today. This is security? Is
there anyone down there? This is your last warning. I
am fully armed and prepared to sue. Turning on the lights,
main calm. No one has to get hurt. M There's
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no way, Jesus Christ. I'm gonna have a heart attack
before thirty. I wonder how this got open? What is
this place? Must be the historical society or car looks
like Edgar had in pose with dream, So this stuff
has to be centried on. I see what she meant
(24:23):
by a thing irreplaceable? Who firearms? Batman? I've never seen
a good old fashioned elephants gotten up close. These are antiques. Jesus.
This leaves to amazement of something to steal. Doors, scratched
and dented the ship. I say, y'all, come here. Now,
(24:48):
look at this skull. These antlers aren't early as hell,
No way, this thing is a deer though. Look at
the size of the teeth. Predator for sure. Okay, there
are drawings too, and almost human. Have you seen this?
I sea, I say, yea true hid hill, open the door.
(25:19):
Listen to me. Whatever you're feeling in in your head,
hidea hidea oh my god saying, can't be believing. It's
(25:54):
a lot. In the end, what helps us make sense
of the world is we choose to unsee next time
(26:18):
on more day. We can't run from this anymore. Take
my gun, you shoot, and you don't stop. If I
come for you, you take me out. That's in order.
Everything was my idea. I say, you're moving here the
fucking camping trip. I told him to God, please no.
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I heart Radio. Blumhouse Television and Crypt TV an association
with Wolfe at the Door present or Dale Executive produced
by Jack Davis, Kate Krantz, Darren Brandon, Jason Blum, Chris Dickey,
Matt Frederick, and Alex Williams. Written by Caitlin Crabb, directed
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by Alex Kemp, Produced by Toby Lawless, Winnie Kemp, Daniel
Person's co producers ben So Tack, Anthony Magnolo, Associate producer
Federico Trago. Starring j L. Fons, Nicholson as Isaiah, Ashley
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