March 13, 2025 • 44 mins
Shhh! Can you hear that? It’s the sound of idyllic Disney princess melodies and cutie little singing birds. That can only mean one thing… spring is on its way to the northern hemisphere. It’s almost time to peel off the wearable blanket you’ve been fused with all winter, open up the damn windows and start decluttering your space. This week Melissa and Stephanie are talking all things spring cleaning. What’s the correct way to organize your suitcases? Is your stack of books cozy in a Dark Academia way or are they just snooty trophies (hot take)? Does that bursting junk drawer give you ataque? Steph and Mel discuss. They may not be perfect at it yet, but they’re TRYING, OKAY?!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you tuned into this thinking that you were gonna
get Marie Condo tips, think again. Sorry, we should put
a disclaimer at the beginning of this, like this is
just us absolutely just trying to get more better at that.
This is a bit just trying. We're not really doing it.
We're just trying more better.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
More and more, a little more better more.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Welcome to more Better.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
A podcast where we stop pretending to have it all
together and embrace the journey of becoming a little more
better every day.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Or I mean, we're trying. Okay, we're trying. I'm trying.
We are trying, We're you're trying, I'm trying. We're all
trying together. That's why you're listening. That's most Famarro and
that's Stephanie Beatrice and we're trying trying together. Okay, try there.
That's what I should have called the podcast, trying to
get together. You're trying too late to change. It's too late.
(01:08):
People change their people change show titles, although I don't
know if people have changed show titles like a TV
show after it's aired. Oh yeah, I wonder that'd be crazy.
What if Cheers was like called like the Big Bar
or something like that they were like, cheers the big bar,
(01:29):
you know, the big bar. Okay, how's it going, How
are you doing? I'm doing pretty good in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'm still in Atlanta for anyone keeping tracks, still here,
but my family's here this month and.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It's all cute, really really amazing. How's antl treating you? Guys?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
So good at you know, it's just like, I'm more relaxed, David.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It's more relaxed. The kids are super happy.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's just you know, a month, so I don't think
it's too long or daunting for anyone, and it feels
like a little break in this marathon of separation.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yes, are they are still going to school?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh yeah, We've had a really sweet school that was
willing to take the little one for a month, and
they've been so amazing for him, and he's made little
friends and it's been great.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
He went on his first little field.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Trip and then Enzo's been killing it with the tutor
and like the homeschool situation, I think it's been kind
of a nice break for him, kind of mentally, like
just the little stress of school. And yeah, he's been
killing it with his work and really focused. And then
you know, he loves the free time too.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And of course he does. How old, he's like right
in that zone where he can like start to read
stuff that he likes on his own, you know, he yeah,
he can.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Reading is a little bit of a struggle for him,
but he if it is something that catches his interest,
like he is into it and he's a really strong reader,
like he's very good at decoding big words, and yeah, yeah,
and so but yeah, he's been Yeah, it's been great.
It's been a nice break, I think for everyone. And
even though it's like another kind of layer of exhaustion
(03:30):
on top of everything else, it's like a good kind
of exhaustion, you know. It's like it's just nice to
have your family together. It's nice to come home to
your family, man, and it's nice to see them in
the morning, and it's nice to have a little more routine.
And yeah, how are you doing.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I'm good, you know, uh, just hanging out in La
Just I'm very very happy that I get to spend
so much time with Roz right now and Brad and like,
you know, watching a lot of movies. Watched so many movies.
One of the movies is not a bunch of us
went and saw Captain America. It was like really fun.
(04:06):
A bunch of us just met with opening weekend and
that was really fun. Like we had our you know.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I made Brad go get popcorn and he came back
with like the branded giant popcorn that was like half
the size of your body, with like a Captain America
shields on the top, like our drinks at like tiny
figurines on the top, like look at any Anthony.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So it's been really like a cool highlight. I just
love movies. I love Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I have to say it's been really nice this season
that I feel like there's been a really good mix
of like big movies and like smaller, more indie feeling
movies and like weird movies and movies that took big swings,
and it's just been like a nice mix. It makes
me hopeful for like a you know, an incoming creative
(04:55):
renaissance that we're always hoping for.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, I started watching Showgun. Have you seen I haven't
seen shown?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Ye? Good? It is wow. Also there's like a lot
of hot people on it, so that's nice. Eye can't
be really fun always helpful. Yeah, I'm I'm just you know,
and I'm all, I'm pretty much caught up with all
my housewives ladies doing good, just you know doing Yeah, girl,
(05:22):
you're like living. I love it. I love this for you,
just living my life over here. I mean, I'm I'm
absolutely in need of uh I'm like looking around my office.
You guys can't see me, but like my office is
a trash right now, Like it is. Absolutely there's like
a giant bag and like corner with like stuff to
(05:42):
take to the goodwill. It's not more better?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, how perfect for what we're discussing today is that's
it will give you the push. We are talking about
decluttering and spring cleaning. SOAR is gonna have an assignment
after this.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I do want to get more better at this. I
do want to get more better at this because, like
you know, spring cleaning is it's I'm I'm sure. I
don't know if we have notes about this, but like
there's like a tradition of you know, when the seasons change,
it's important to like change with the season, right and
so like when spring actually comes, we're not I'm not
(06:31):
in it yet. We're not in it yet, but it
is so nice to do things like sweep your front
step or like you know, do the closet clean out
or like turnover, Like, okay, the sweaters are going away,
the jackets are getting going in the back of the
clause or whatever the fuck. But like the amount of stuff,
the amount of like it's like I just get so
(06:55):
resistant to it. I guess is like I get resistant
to the start.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Of it, and I don't want to do it. I
don't want to do it. You got done, you'll do it?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, yeah, And like no, it can be a lot.
I'm just not the kind of person that's like, let
me get a list out or you know, I mean,
I'll make a list, but like I'm not. I remember
reading did you ever read The Little House on the
Prairie books? Not watch the show, but read the books. No, okay,
well there's still time for you. They're very good. But
(07:29):
there was this thing in the Little House books where
like Monday they would do the wash, Tuesday they would
do this, Thursday they would do that, you know, like
there was a day for like whatever. I can't. I
can't live that way. I can't and I know my
life would be better for it if I did stuff
like that, but sure, I cannot do it. I can't.
(07:52):
I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That surprises me because I feel like, I mean, I know,
obviously people tidy up before like you come over, but
like every time I've been to your house or even
like just how your dressing room was laid out, I
feel like you are so organized.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well I am organized. I'm very organized, and like I'm
ruthless when it comes to stuff like m like you
don't let yourself acquire too much. Well, but the thing
that I'm just about throwing away. But I'm also like
a major collector, so like I collect constantly, like I'm
like a magpie. If it's shiny and interesting, I'm like
(08:31):
I need one of those and one of those and
one of those and one of those, you know, and
so like I just accumulate so much. But I also like,
am I'm good at like getting rid of stuff. It's
just the the the organizing aspect of it, or like
looking at it as a big mountain then I need
to climb. It's different when I'm in my closet, like
(08:51):
if we leave clothes out of it, because clothes are
like a different category. I feel like they're like right,
it's more about fashion and fun and like, yeah, utilizing
what you have and blah blah blah blah blah. I'm
talking about like stacks of books, like stuff that needs
to get to the framer note books that are empty
or half filled with stuff. You know, I'm just looking them, literally,
(09:15):
just looking around at the stuff that I need to
get rid of. I'm like, oh, you know, like, what's
that piece of wrapping paper that I've had for six
years that I just haven't used on anything because it's
so pretty? You know, I like, what do I do
with this little card from this thing that I got
invited to that I don't want to throw away? But
I where do I? You know?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, it's so like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I get it. It can be a lot, and I
and you know, like.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It though you like doing it, I do. I love
a good declutter and purject.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I literally feel myself less stressed out after I do it.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I was so judgmental without why. I was like why,
I really was.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Like, ew didn't even clock it didn't even God, you
should have.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, I you know, I.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Love the ritual of spring cleaning. You know, it certainly
hasn't happened every single year, because you know, there have
been some crazy springs and then but like when it
doesn't happen, it's like in the back of my mind
and I'm stressed out, and I'm like, I've got to
get it done before the fall comes, like something about
like before the cold weather comes, like I still got
(10:34):
to do this. And I would say we do like
a big we did a big declutter purge of the
whole house. Uh maybe like a year or so ago,
you know, obviously, like the the goal is always to
do it every year, but yeah, sometimes you don't need that.
Like sometimes it's like to do the whole house. Like
(10:55):
we went closet by closet, Like we picked a week
that we didn't have much going on, and we were
just like, okay, Monday, we're tackling the coat closet, which
doesn't just have coats, it also has bins in there
of like bullshit, Like there's a bin in there of
beach bags. Do we need five beach bags? We use
(11:16):
the same fucking one every time we go to the beach.
We don't need the other ones, you know what I mean?
Like five umbrellas, half of them were broken like shit
like that, and we just like went closet by closet
and then like drawer by drawer because we have like
junk drawer, like what we call junk drawers. We have
like one in our bedroom and one in the kitchen
that like shit just kind of gets tossed into. So
(11:40):
you don't like a junk drawer not. I fucking hate
the junk.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I love hate use. I refuse to have a junk
drawer in my house. My husband is trying to turn
the one. There's a drawer in the kitchen that holds
like the keys, pens, no pads, and he kind only
is putting it in there, and I'm just like, what
is this? Get it out? I don't. But if you
don't put it in there, where are you putting it?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
They throw away? Melissa, Well throw it away. Yes, if
it isn't home, it needs to be in the trash.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But does not have a home. That's and you know what,
as I'm listening to you, I'm like, that's why I
don't do this very often, because like everything has a home,
and if it doesn't have a home, I throw it away.
And Brad has gotten so annoyed with me before because
he's like, Oh, I'm like where does this live? Where
does this? Where's this? You? Know, like where does this live?
(12:34):
Where's the home for this? And he's like, yeah, why
do you talk about these things like it's not which
is so weird because I am obsessive about it needs
a little home. It needs to have a home, and
it can't just go in a bin. Can't be in
a bin, you know, Like I'm like, it has to
have a home. But what happens if you don't have
it like a home?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Like like good, But there's some things that you don't
random that you don't live here.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You don't live here. Exe to me what a random
thing would be. Tell me what a random thing would be.
I'll tell you where I'll put it. Well, challenge me.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I'm trying to think what's in our bedroom? So our
bedroom junk drawer is a bedroom a mix of girl.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It's a drawer. It closes. I'll have to look at it.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Okay, it has a mix of uh, notebooks, no block
of ew.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
We have books everywhere. I literally don't have space on
any shelf.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You need to throw at some of those books. But
half of them we use.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And then maybe there's one or two in there that
are probably maybe that are like maybe sentimental.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Here's what I think if it's a novel and you're like,
I am so proud that I read this book and
I want to read it again someday, keep it. But
books are trophies, essentially, their trophies their trophies to like
display of like look at how smart I am, like
all these books that I read, and so unless they're
being used as a reference, stugy it is, unless they're
(14:07):
be to me, Unless they're being used as a reference,
or you know that you're going to lend them out
to someone else after I've read it, I'm just like goodbye,
oh good bye. I don't need you anymore. Like I'm
never going to read My Court of Thorns and Roses again,
Like I already read it, you know, right right, right right, goodbye.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
We have a lot of books in our bedroom book
most of them are like books we plan on reading
and then. But I also like I I.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Have my whole life.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I still don't really have this, but like you know,
when you see it in fancy houses, there's like a
study or like a room with a big bookshelf. I mean,
I kind of have a big bookshelf, but it's like
in the kid's room, and you know, the top half
of it as mine. There's something aesthetically beautiful about that.
And I also find it, like, I don't know, cozy
(15:06):
and comforting. So like for me seeing books around that
we've read is just there's something visually kind of cozy
about it that I just joy looking at. And I
just also have a dream of having a room where
there's like a library, a library, yeah, where there's like
(15:27):
all these books and it's not about like the books
we've read or haven't read or you know, trophies. Let's
be real, it's true not And I do like to
go back and write. I do like go back to
reference like reference books.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
But I don't know, I.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Just it's just something that is like cozy and comforting
to me. Like I will sit in that room sometimes
and like stare at all the books and be like, oh, yeah,
remember that one, or like I still have we have
all the plays that we've read or like worked from.
There's like one that's like full of plays and like
I will thumb through that sometimes or just look at
(16:05):
it and be like, I don't know, it's like little memories.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I guess, yeah that makessonally that makes sense. I mean
I think library like I'm just saying, like with the notebooks,
what are the notebooks in the drunk drawer? Like what
are are they like spiral notebooks? Are they? Like? Are
they also to look at? Like what is the deal
with these notebooks?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah? There is, Yeah, there's a couple spirals. They're like
David and I are both list makers. Otherwise we can't
remember shit, right, so we have so those sometimes are
I think like the top two notebooks are like our
notebooks that we grab sometimes when we have to make
like bigger lists because we also have like pads of
paper in the kitchen junk drawer, but that's more for
(16:48):
like shorter lists and groceries and stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
This is junk so far these things belong in the drawer,
Like oh yeah, junk drawer is.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Just like a phrase. And then there's a big notebook
in there that's like a leather notebook that was given
to me as a gift that I was supposed to
use as a journal and I never did.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But it has a very sweet inscription in it, and
I have written in it a little bit. But my
brain is like, rip out the inscription, get rid of
the leather notebook. I can't. I refuse to buy an
ugly notebook. This is like, oh yeah, that's pretty. It
has to be esthetically like pleasant to be out on
the counter.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, in case it's out on the counter. Yeah,
I do that too.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
This one that I'm holding up is like covered in
flowers and stuff. Like in the drawer next to me
is it's my desk strawer, And there's like a compartment
for everything, Like there's a it's this is the desk drawer.
But if I need a lighter, I know exactly where
it is. If I need the pencil sharpener, I know
exactly where it is. If I need the glue, I
(17:52):
know exactly where it is, the stikler, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
The junk drawer can be organizational. I wouldn't say I'm
trying to think of what else is in that drawer. Oh,
there's there's some eyeglass cases in there in case you
need one.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
We both were glasses.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
It's like, and then there's like some travel stuff. There's
like a ziplock of like charging cords and extra like
squares that.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Goes with the suitcases. There does not need to be
like in the suitcases. It goes with the travel stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, but sometimes we're putting suitcases inside suitcases in our
little like storage area where the suitcases go for saving space.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
There's a little area needs to be near this travel
stuff where like you keep your little travel bags and
like your You're like, yeah, but ours is like outside
and like in the garage. And then there's like, let me,
here's the thing. Different things work for different families, Yeah, obviously,
but like I mean, I feel like we're both saying
the same thing that like isis guys. Our producer was like,
(19:04):
this will be a fun episode, and like as she
said it, I was like, a' so fucking moly, not
it won't. It's gonna give me anxiety. My shoulders will
like up on my ears. I hate liss, I hate it.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I like I will say that things do get tossed
in that drawer a lot, and so every few months
I will empty the whole drawer and throw out shit
and then like kind of just keep the shit that
I know we still use or grab and like, and it's.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Always like half of what was fucking in there.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Sometimes you're just you know what it is too. Like
David a little bit more than me hates like clutter
on like the counter eat on our dresser or like
right and so. But sometimes there's things that you're like,
oh fuck, like I'm you know, I can't throw this
out yet, I might need to get it later whatever,
(19:59):
or I'm not sure, so it just goes in the drawer.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It's also like just like a like a quiz can't
see me, but I'm rubbing my face because you're just
like trying to declutter quickly and you don't have time
to like go through every fucking thing and check with
your partner do we need this? Do we not?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Can't throw this out, so it just gets like shoved
in the drawer and then we go through the drawer
when it's full.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
System. It's a system. Hate it. We have a kitchen peninsula,
and like Brad is amazing in so many ways, he
will clean the whole peninsula. Everything is like spick and span.
He loves to clean. And then in the middle of
the peninsul will be a giant mountain of just bullshit,
like bullshit that what just put it away? And like
(20:45):
I've realized in our partnership, I am the one. I
am the one that needs to put these things away
or choose whether or not they go in the trash right,
and like I try so hard, like the systems that
I put in place, I try to get him to
understand what it is about the system that I want
to have happened, Like there was there's like a bookshelf.
(21:07):
We do have a big bookshelf in our living room
that has bottom is kids books, middle is like reference materials,
and you know, there's lots of pictures on the shelf.
And then on the very top of the shelf to
the right is where we're supposed to put the bills.
Incoming bills, outgoing bills. Chargers are in a little box.
And then both of the laptops are supposed to sit
(21:29):
right on top of each other. And that's it. That's all.
It's supposed to be there. Every time I pass by
and I look at it, and Marie Kondo talks about this,
the visual eye clutter of that is like so fucking
it makes me fucking insane. I want to put my
fists through a wall, like it is horrifying for me,
(21:50):
Like I can't handle it. I can handle it visually,
I just get so overwhelmed. And I think that that's
why I get really overwhelmed when it's like Okay, let's
do this room, you know, like and I can do it.
I like I wish I, you know, could put my
brain in a space where like I'm gonna do this
this week with my partner, but I don't think my
(22:11):
partner works that way, so like I often feel like
I'm doing it by myself, you know, But like I
just like the visual. The visual of like all the
stuff everywhere is so hard for me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, here's the other thing that really fucks everything up.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Children forget it, honey.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
And the amount of shit that they acquire as they
get older when they come home from a fucking birthday party.
By the way, can we campaign to just get rid
of gift bags a gift by Every time my kid
comes home with a fucking plastic bag, I want to scream, okay,
(22:55):
because then they want to keep every little fucking plastic
thing that's in there, And I'm like, this is bad
for the environment.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
No one asked you to do this. I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Now they're expecting it.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
What would be a good Like do we just give
them money? Like do we hand them like a five dollars,
like five dollars like as we don't do anything like
I don't have to treat if they want, Okay, a cookie,
A cookie, I like that, an edible gift, an edible gift,
that's nice.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Or like times I was like, in lieu of Favors,
we have made a donation to this charity Favors.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Bye, thanks for coming in lou of Favors. You don't
have bullshit coming into your house. Okay, you can tell
us thank you you are. I am not going to
send you home with some FuG and bullshit.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
A book so could be cute, you know, it's something
that you like, actually use, but I really hate gift bags.
And then they want to keep all of it. And
then now my, you know, they have like their little
bedside tables and in those drawers it's just all the
fucking shit they want to save. And then I have
(24:07):
to sneak in there and go through it and like
see what I can throw out that they won't miss
or notice, and or like the shoes, you know, they'll
like rip a like a Enzo's a little bit like this,
Like he has a pair of nikes that are absolutely trashed,
absolutely trashed, but he loves that, he loves them, and
(24:31):
so he still has them and we've bought him new
shoes because we're like, these are really bad, you like
you need like nicer. Yeah, these are about to bust open.
But yeah, just like things like shoes, things like you know.
And then I always call it inventory when I this
is also something I do part of my uh spring cleaning,
(24:55):
and it's very overwhelming, but I try to do it. Actually,
you before summer and then before winter because that's when
they need new clothes usually. But like I go through
all their shit, check all the sizes. Inevitably they're shit
in there that doesn't fit them anymore, right, right, that
you know, just goes unnoticed or they just like don't
(25:17):
you don't put it on them, but you keep it
in the drawer because you're busy.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Right, and then this suddenly it doesn't fit them.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
And it's like eight in the morning when you're rushing
to get them to school and you're like, these pants
don't fit and you just drove them back in the drawer.
So I go through all the clothes, get rid of
like whatever doesn't fit or that they never wear, that
they don't like, whatever it is that has holes in it.
And then yeah, just like all their they're junk and
like they're it's.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Oh my god. And then all the things that come
home from school.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
We have two folders in the kitchen, one for Axle,
one for Enzo that we kind of like, you know,
accomplishments or like things they come home with that they're
proud of that you have to like wait to throw
out because if you throw out in front of them,
you're gonna like devastate them. So I'll like stick it
(26:06):
in their folder.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
It's true how many of us have like memories of
being like holding back tears while you watch your parents
like throw it away, right.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
You can't do that shit in front of you. Know
how many times I've been caught you have they've caught you.
Oh yeah, they've caught me.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
They go to throw something out and they're like either
what does yeah, and then I'm like, oh my god,
I'm so sorry. That must have been a mistake. Or
I thought you were done with it. We celebrated and
then you know, and then I thought we were done.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
But yeah, and then so I go through those folders
once they start getting fat, Yeah, yeah, better.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Better. That's a good idea to keep the little the
folders in the kitchen or whatever, and like.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Just like two folders in the kitchen so you can
just like throw their shit in there and then you know,
and then I do, like I have a in one closet.
I do have like a little storage drawer with like
just labeled like kid memories of like I'm sentimental, so
like no I have cute drawings or like you know
when they make them do like a thing for their
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birthday and kindergarten that says all their favorite things or whatever,
Like I keep that shit and I put it like
in the drawer because I look at it and sob
when they go to college and totally try to give
it to them and they'll be like are giving this
to me? I want to make sure that you do
have I mean, depending on the kind of person you are,
but I think most of us are sentimental in some
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kind of way. So like you want to just like
you don't want to inundate yourself, but you want to
make sure that you have a space that's like these
are the things that are sacred and like they're not
going anywhere, you know. But it can be hard when
you don't have a lot of space. Like my, yeah,
closets in my house are kind of small, and I
have to be like very strategic about where I put
little storage boxes or things like that and try to
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think of systems that work and then be really selective.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
About what I save. And but saying we don't have
a lot of storage, I mean, and I remember when
we were buying this house, I was like, should be
at a closet or something like we should be, you know.
And there's attic space, which is great. Attic space is
lovely for extra you know, putting things in like plastic
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tins or plastic bags or plastic.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, we have that, like next to our garage. We
like a little storage room, a tiny little room.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, but you don't want to like stick, you know,
I don't know. Attics are also not they get really hot. Yeah,
So I don't want to like say, treasured things up there,
you know, yes, exactly. Do you still have your wedding dress?
I do. I do too.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
It's in a big old box that takes up so
much fucking room. It's like properly, you know, my mom
got it preserved or what she did, and it's just
like in the box that it came in. I just
never opened it and it's just shoved up at the
top of that.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
That storage for. I don't know what I got two boys.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Maybe you never know, they marry women someday and they
want to use we never know ace.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Or some shit. I don't know, but I've seen tons
of videos lately where girls go and like use their
grandmothers or their moms and they turn it into like
a cute little like after party dress or yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Oh, actually my wedding dress would look really cute as
like a little mini actual mini.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, And like I've seen the girls like put little
like cute little sleeves.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
On it, or like, oh, I'm wearing this on my honeymoon.
It was my mom's or whatever, So I think that's cute.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
H I. I feel like what I'm learning in this
conversation is that I don't like to do the big
decluttering because I want it to be I wanted to maintain.
I want it.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, I want to be in a maintaince phase always.
I don't ever want to.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Have to do like the deep dive, because the deep
dive is the thing that makes me. And here I
will be very honest. When we moved into this house,
we used an organizer, we used a professional organizer, and
I was like I am. I don't want any birthday presents.
I don't want any Christmas presents. I don't want an
(30:23):
anniversary present. I was like, I am serious, Brad, I
want this is the luxury gift that you're going to
get me for my birthday? For for the I don't
want to push present. I don't want any that shit.
I want a fucking real organizer, you know. And I
will say, I mean that's something that not everyone can do,
but everybody. I feel like everybody either knows has a
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friend that's really good at this or is pretty darn
good out of themselves, and like utilize them because if
you can't do this thing on your own, like I
can't do this. I can maintain the system and I'm
really good at it. But you can't talk him up
with this system, y'all. I can't. I did try. So.
The one time that I did this was when I
was moving from being a single person into we had
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I think we'd gotten married and we were now moving
from the apartment that we shared into a house. I
guess I think we're we were building, we were, it
doesn't matter. We were moving, that's the real joint. And
when we were moving I read that Marie Condo book,
Oh The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up, And she's
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got this like incredible system in it, and if you
follow the system, you will get rid of shit, but
you will also be like drowning in a mountain of
your own shit. Like it is you really see how
much stuff you have because she makes you go through it.
She doesn't let you go like room by room. She's like,
start with your books. This is probably why I'm so
brutal about books. Start with your books. Then you do
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your clothes. Then you do I think isis had it
written down, but like I can't remember where it is.
It's like first you commit, yeah, then you have to
like imagine, like what what do you want your ideal
lifestyle to be? And then you start like discarding stuff
and you the method is like does this spark joy?
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So you literally have to put your hands on everything
that you own, and by the time that you're done,
you're like why do I have so much shit? Like
why do I have all this stuff? Like I don't
want any of this, Like I don't want this, you know,
And it's really useful. It takes forever, though it took
I think it took a week to go through everything.
But it was like, you know, I mean I was
put in work. I was like, yeah, I was putting
(32:39):
in work because you take everything like you take all
of the books off the shelves, like you take you
take all of the clothes out of the closet. You
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
It's not right, Like, wait, let's talk about clothes as
someone who loves fashion and has a lot of clothes.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
How do you get? What do you mean? How dare you?
I speak truth? You do? So this is what I so? Okay,
when I was in Toronto, I had like a bit
of a capsule wardrobe because right, and I actually loved
everything that I bought and wore in Toronto. I was like,
oh my god, these are my colors. I love this
(33:18):
stuff like I really felt like using less made me
more aware of what I like to wear. So then
when I got back, I went through my whole closet
and that was hell. I went through my whole closet,
got rid of a ton of shit because I bought
a lot of stuff in Toronto. I think the main
rules that I have for stuff is like I don't
(33:38):
have any hard and fast rules like you know how
you hear, Oh, if you don't wear it in two years,
then you should get rid of it. No, no, no, no.
I have a vintage Valentino dress in my closet that
I've owned for five years. I've never worn it. I'm
waiting for the time to wear it. I'm not getting
rid of that.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
You know, we've all heard my regret story about the
DVF dress that I when I was in my twenties
because I didn't think I was gonna wear it again,
And now forty year only is like, why don't I
have a dress?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah. So there's some things that like I hold onto
that are important. But at the same time, I think
it's very, very very You've got to ask yourself periodically,
do you am I wearing this or am I holding
onto it? Because like, like, okay, So something that I
(34:28):
learned to do recently is I if I have like
fifteen minutes or whatever, I'll go in my closet and
I'll like try stuff on and take pictures and make
new outfits or whatever. And yesterday I tried on a
sweater that I was like, oh, this is such a
pretty sweater, and I put it on. I like tried
it on with jeans, and I tried it on with
the different pair of pants, and I tried it on
with something else. I was like, I don't like this.
(34:49):
This is really pretty on the hangar. I don't like this.
This is something for me, and I never reach for it.
And that's why, because I don't know how to wear
it in a way that makes me feel like me. Yeah,
so I'm gonna get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
That's a good stuff like that. It's like if I
don't know how to absolutely like grab it and put
it on and wear it in a way that feels
like me, Yeah, I gotta let it go. Yeah, even
if I paid a lot for it, even if it
was a gift, even if like whatever, whatever, you know,
Like that's how I am with books too. I'm like,
I already read it. I did it. I already did it.
I don't want it, I don't need it, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, Yeah, I did do the the hangar trick for
a while where because I again small closet, so I
need to like every spring, like all the winter shit
goes away and I bring out my summer stuff and
vice versa, and so and my friend.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Chazz shout out Chaz.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
He told me about it. He was like, when you
put all that spring stuff, he was like, put every
hanger like backwards, and then when you wear the thing,
like put it back the normal way. And at the
end of the summer you'll see all everything that you
didn't wear that summer.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
And I kind of liked it. It was kind of
a neat trick.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Like at the end of the summer or when I
was whenever I was getting ready to like do the switch,
I saw all these, you know, and some of them
I kept. I was like, oh, I don't wear that,
but I still really love it, and like, you know,
I'm going to keep it.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
And then there.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Were like a lot of things and I was like, oh,
this makes sense why I did not wear this all summer.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I don't think I actually like it. I'm going to
get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It was just like a very easy visual thing. Yeah,
it helped me get rid of stuff. Now we see
you when you shop when you buy, do you get
rid of stuff? Like do you get rid of stuff?
Because I do that one for one yeah, one for
one ish. I mean I try, I really do try.
There is That's why there's.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Like a bag in the corner of my office right now,
I has stuff in it because there is stuff that
needs to go to the donation center. I really try,
but I also don't. I don't always subscribe to that
because I think there are like not holes in my closet,
but there's like things that I'm like what wish I had,
(37:04):
like a you know, yeah, yeah, And if I don't
have it, then I'm not going to get rid of
something that I already wear or like love or have
sentimental value to whatever. You know, I'm not going to
get rid of it just because I brought something new in. However,
I do think I'm not always that way with clothes,
(37:24):
but I am that way with stuff, like yeah, I
don't want You know, a kid's stuff is really a
hard one because they get so attached to toys, and
you know, everybody says, like cycle the toys up, like
with what time? Like when are you guys cycling toys?
Like I don't know, I don't have the time. But
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I think that that we did do when we were
cleaning up for Christmas, we stuck a bunch of her
I have to be quiet because she's in the other room.
We stuck a bunch of her stuffies downstairs, and then
before we brought all the stuff he's back upstairs. I did,
like I was like throw like into a bag for
(38:08):
a donation because I was like, oh, she doesn't play
with this, she doesn't play with them for a month.
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
When my kids were smaller, I would if I noticed
there were some toys they weren't really playing with, I
would just put them in a closet and wait. And
if they didn't ask for that toy or they didn't
notice that it was gone out of here here in
the garbage or to the donation center, I think, you know,
(38:35):
one of the things that I think I learned from
the Maricondo thing was like that question of like when
you hold something and it does it spark joy? Part
of that is like it's okay.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
As somebody who grew up with not very much money
at all, it is so hard for me to let
things go when I know I spent money on them.
Yeah it's pretty. And that's something that I've learned as
an adult that's like okay, though, Like yeah, and it
might be easy for me to say, but if if
I'm holding on to something because I spend money on it,
(39:09):
but it is like weighing me down, Like it's in
my house and it's like taking up space. It's causing
me stress, and like you know, it's like I don't
have any room in my closet because I have all
these pairs of gens because you know, I bought them,
but I don't wear them because they don't fit. It's like,
so who am I? How am I winning here? You know,
(39:31):
like this is not a win for me in any way,
shape or form. Right, So that's something that I think
is a way to get more better at This is
like accepting that like you already, like that money's gone,
you already spent it. You done spend it already, you know,
unless this is like a vintage investment piece that we're
talking about, Like let's set that aside. It's like a
(39:53):
shirt or a toy or a book or like something.
It's like the money was already spent. Now do you
still like this thing? Do you still want to have
it around? Or are you keeping it around because you
spent money on it and you've assigned a dollar amount
to it and that's the value of it, Like is
(40:13):
it you know? Or could you get rid of it
or could you get rid of it, could you say
by start it out? Yeah, start it away.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah, it is always very liberating and like.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
When once you do it, Yeah, I want to feel that.
I want to feel that way all the time. I
want I want constant. I say this, I'm like, God, like,
it's not that much. It's it's like five things, but
it's making me crazy because it just make a.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Schedule girl be like I'm gonna do this this day, this, this, this,
like well I have to.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah, I just take schedule letters up and then like
toss these things in the fucking yeah. But also like
put in the schedule put I can't throw these away.
You can't throw those away. Those cutey little handprints like
tulip my kid made a Valentine for me, and they're
like from school and they're little, the little red hand prints.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
See that's what the special kid memory memory were. Yeah.
More better. I don't know, I mean, do you feel
like we like, did we just tell everyone what we
think about those? Like? What?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
What?
Speaker 1 (41:21):
How did we I don't know if I got more
better at this.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
I don't know that we actually gave any tips or
I feel like we just vented.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Oh we did anything today? Today, we just bullshitted. You
know what, if you too thinking that you were going
to get Marie condo tips, think again. Sorry, we should
put a disclaimer at the beginning of this, like this
is just us absolutely just trying to get more better
at that. This is just trying, We're not really doing it.
I do feel inspired for when I go home.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Do you I'm going to get rid of some books, Stephanie,
I'm going.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
To get rid of some books. Text me a little
pile of book I will. I will.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
A little bit of that did creep in because we do.
You know, we have too many piles of books. I
try to make them look cute, like they're like like
on purpose. But it's time to It's time like those
trophies like okay, all right, relax.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Do you feel more better? I do. I feel a
little more better. I feel I feel like I need
to clean out our quote unquote junk drawer. Yuck. Why
do we have all these keys? What do these keys
go to?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Maybe you just have to like rebrand it. Maybe it
just needs a different name.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
It's not a it's.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
It is not I refuse, it's a it's an extra drawer.
It's the brad doesn't know what to do with this.
So it's the it's the yeah, the husband drawer, the
miscellaneous drawer.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
You know, everything has a place, and everything in its
place or whatever however that's saying goes, where's its home?
Oh god, I would at home. That would drive you
would hate it. I would do where does this live? Where?
I would absolutely I'd love to say it. And it's
my favorite thing. This doesn't live in here, This doesn't
live in here? Where does this live? Oh? Shit?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yeah she is, Yeah, she is. Anyway to hear it
in her brain? In her brain. Yeah, when she's an adult,
she moves out. How does this live? She'll like it.
It's fine. Thanks for joining us on today's session of
Bitch About Cleaning. See you next week. Let's see you
next week. Do you have something you'd like to be
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in a future episode.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
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If you tuned into this thinking that you were gonna
get Marie Condo tips, think again. Sorry, we should put
a disclaimer at the beginning of this, like this is
just us absolutely just trying to get more better at that.
This is a bit just trying. We're not really doing it.
We're just trying more better.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
More and more, a little more better more.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Welcome to more Better.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
A podcast where we stop pretending to have it all
together and embrace the journey of becoming a little more
better every day.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Or I mean, we're trying. Okay, we're trying. I'm trying.
We are trying, We're you're trying, I'm trying. We're all
trying together. That's why you're listening. That's most Famarro and
that's Stephanie Beatrice and we're trying trying together. Okay, try there.
That's what I should have called the podcast, trying to
get together. You're trying too late to change. It's too late.
(01:08):
People change their people change show titles, although I don't
know if people have changed show titles like a TV
show after it's aired. Oh yeah, I wonder that'd be crazy.
What if Cheers was like called like the Big Bar
or something like that they were like, cheers the big bar,
(01:29):
you know, the big bar. Okay, how's it going, How
are you doing? I'm doing pretty good in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'm still in Atlanta for anyone keeping tracks, still here,
but my family's here this month and.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It's all cute, really really amazing. How's antl treating you? Guys?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
So good at you know, it's just like, I'm more relaxed, David.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It's more relaxed. The kids are super happy.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's just you know, a month, so I don't think
it's too long or daunting for anyone, and it feels
like a little break in this marathon of separation.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yes, are they are still going to school?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh yeah, We've had a really sweet school that was
willing to take the little one for a month, and
they've been so amazing for him, and he's made little
friends and it's been great.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
He went on his first little field.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Trip and then Enzo's been killing it with the tutor
and like the homeschool situation, I think it's been kind
of a nice break for him, kind of mentally, like
just the little stress of school. And yeah, he's been
killing it with his work and really focused. And then
you know, he loves the free time too.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And of course he does. How old, he's like right
in that zone where he can like start to read
stuff that he likes on his own, you know, he yeah,
he can.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Reading is a little bit of a struggle for him,
but he if it is something that catches his interest,
like he is into it and he's a really strong reader,
like he's very good at decoding big words, and yeah, yeah,
and so but yeah, he's been Yeah, it's been great.
It's been a nice break, I think for everyone. And
even though it's like another kind of layer of exhaustion
(03:30):
on top of everything else, it's like a good kind
of exhaustion, you know. It's like it's just nice to
have your family together. It's nice to come home to
your family, man, and it's nice to see them in
the morning, and it's nice to have a little more routine.
And yeah, how are you doing.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I'm good, you know, uh, just hanging out in La
Just I'm very very happy that I get to spend
so much time with Roz right now and Brad and like,
you know, watching a lot of movies. Watched so many movies.
One of the movies is not a bunch of us
went and saw Captain America. It was like really fun.
(04:06):
A bunch of us just met with opening weekend and
that was really fun. Like we had our you know.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I made Brad go get popcorn and he came back
with like the branded giant popcorn that was like half
the size of your body, with like a Captain America
shields on the top, like our drinks at like tiny
figurines on the top, like look at any Anthony.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So it's been really like a cool highlight. I just
love movies. I love Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I have to say it's been really nice this season
that I feel like there's been a really good mix
of like big movies and like smaller, more indie feeling
movies and like weird movies and movies that took big swings,
and it's just been like a nice mix. It makes
me hopeful for like a you know, an incoming creative
(04:55):
renaissance that we're always hoping for.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, I started watching Showgun. Have you seen I haven't
seen shown?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Ye? Good? It is wow. Also there's like a lot
of hot people on it, so that's nice. Eye can't
be really fun always helpful. Yeah, I'm I'm just you know,
and I'm all, I'm pretty much caught up with all
my housewives ladies doing good, just you know doing Yeah, girl,
(05:22):
you're like living. I love it. I love this for you,
just living my life over here. I mean, I'm I'm
absolutely in need of uh I'm like looking around my office.
You guys can't see me, but like my office is
a trash right now, Like it is. Absolutely there's like
a giant bag and like corner with like stuff to
(05:42):
take to the goodwill. It's not more better?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, how perfect for what we're discussing today is that's
it will give you the push. We are talking about
decluttering and spring cleaning. SOAR is gonna have an assignment
after this.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I do want to get more better at this. I
do want to get more better at this because, like
you know, spring cleaning is it's I'm I'm sure. I
don't know if we have notes about this, but like
there's like a tradition of you know, when the seasons change,
it's important to like change with the season, right and
so like when spring actually comes, we're not I'm not
(06:31):
in it yet. We're not in it yet, but it
is so nice to do things like sweep your front
step or like you know, do the closet clean out
or like turnover, Like, okay, the sweaters are going away,
the jackets are getting going in the back of the
clause or whatever the fuck. But like the amount of stuff,
the amount of like it's like I just get so
(06:55):
resistant to it. I guess is like I get resistant
to the start.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Of it, and I don't want to do it. I
don't want to do it. You got done, you'll do it?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, yeah, And like no, it can be a lot.
I'm just not the kind of person that's like, let
me get a list out or you know, I mean,
I'll make a list, but like I'm not. I remember
reading did you ever read The Little House on the
Prairie books? Not watch the show, but read the books. No, okay,
well there's still time for you. They're very good. But
(07:29):
there was this thing in the Little House books where
like Monday they would do the wash, Tuesday they would
do this, Thursday they would do that, you know, like
there was a day for like whatever. I can't. I
can't live that way. I can't and I know my
life would be better for it if I did stuff
like that, but sure, I cannot do it. I can't.
(07:52):
I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That surprises me because I feel like, I mean, I know,
obviously people tidy up before like you come over, but
like every time I've been to your house or even
like just how your dressing room was laid out, I
feel like you are so organized.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well I am organized. I'm very organized, and like I'm
ruthless when it comes to stuff like m like you
don't let yourself acquire too much. Well, but the thing
that I'm just about throwing away. But I'm also like
a major collector, so like I collect constantly, like I'm
like a magpie. If it's shiny and interesting, I'm like
(08:31):
I need one of those and one of those and
one of those and one of those, you know, and
so like I just accumulate so much. But I also like,
am I'm good at like getting rid of stuff. It's
just the the the organizing aspect of it, or like
looking at it as a big mountain then I need
to climb. It's different when I'm in my closet, like
(08:51):
if we leave clothes out of it, because clothes are
like a different category. I feel like they're like right,
it's more about fashion and fun and like, yeah, utilizing
what you have and blah blah blah blah blah. I'm
talking about like stacks of books, like stuff that needs
to get to the framer note books that are empty
or half filled with stuff. You know, I'm just looking them, literally,
(09:15):
just looking around at the stuff that I need to
get rid of. I'm like, oh, you know, like, what's
that piece of wrapping paper that I've had for six
years that I just haven't used on anything because it's
so pretty? You know, I like, what do I do
with this little card from this thing that I got
invited to that I don't want to throw away? But
I where do I? You know?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, it's so like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I get it. It can be a lot, and I
and you know, like.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It though you like doing it, I do. I love
a good declutter and purject.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I literally feel myself less stressed out after I do it.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I was so judgmental without why. I was like why,
I really was.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Like, ew didn't even clock it didn't even God, you
should have.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, I you know, I.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Love the ritual of spring cleaning. You know, it certainly
hasn't happened every single year, because you know, there have
been some crazy springs and then but like when it
doesn't happen, it's like in the back of my mind
and I'm stressed out, and I'm like, I've got to
get it done before the fall comes, like something about
like before the cold weather comes, like I still got
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to do this. And I would say we do like
a big we did a big declutter purge of the
whole house. Uh maybe like a year or so ago,
you know, obviously, like the the goal is always to
do it every year, but yeah, sometimes you don't need that.
Like sometimes it's like to do the whole house. Like
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we went closet by closet, Like we picked a week
that we didn't have much going on, and we were
just like, okay, Monday, we're tackling the coat closet, which
doesn't just have coats, it also has bins in there
of like bullshit, Like there's a bin in there of
beach bags. Do we need five beach bags? We use
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the same fucking one every time we go to the beach.
We don't need the other ones, you know what I mean?
Like five umbrellas, half of them were broken like shit
like that, and we just like went closet by closet
and then like drawer by drawer because we have like
junk drawer, like what we call junk drawers. We have
like one in our bedroom and one in the kitchen
that like shit just kind of gets tossed into. So
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you don't like a junk drawer not. I fucking hate
the junk.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I love hate use. I refuse to have a junk
drawer in my house. My husband is trying to turn
the one. There's a drawer in the kitchen that holds
like the keys, pens, no pads, and he kind only
is putting it in there, and I'm just like, what
is this? Get it out? I don't. But if you
don't put it in there, where are you putting it?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
They throw away? Melissa, Well throw it away. Yes, if
it isn't home, it needs to be in the trash.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But does not have a home. That's and you know what,
as I'm listening to you, I'm like, that's why I
don't do this very often, because like everything has a home,
and if it doesn't have a home, I throw it away.
And Brad has gotten so annoyed with me before because
he's like, Oh, I'm like where does this live? Where
does this? Where's this? You? Know, like where does this live?
(12:34):
Where's the home for this? And he's like, yeah, why
do you talk about these things like it's not which
is so weird because I am obsessive about it needs
a little home. It needs to have a home, and
it can't just go in a bin. Can't be in
a bin, you know, Like I'm like, it has to
have a home. But what happens if you don't have
it like a home?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Like like good, But there's some things that you don't
random that you don't live here.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You don't live here. Exe to me what a random
thing would be. Tell me what a random thing would be.
I'll tell you where I'll put it. Well, challenge me.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I'm trying to think what's in our bedroom? So our
bedroom junk drawer is a bedroom a mix of girl.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It's a drawer. It closes. I'll have to look at it.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Okay, it has a mix of uh, notebooks, no block
of ew.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
We have books everywhere. I literally don't have space on
any shelf.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
You need to throw at some of those books. But
half of them we use.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And then maybe there's one or two in there that
are probably maybe that are like maybe sentimental.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Here's what I think if it's a novel and you're like,
I am so proud that I read this book and
I want to read it again someday, keep it. But
books are trophies, essentially, their trophies their trophies to like
display of like look at how smart I am, like
all these books that I read, and so unless they're
being used as a reference, stugy it is, unless they're
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be to me, Unless they're being used as a reference,
or you know that you're going to lend them out
to someone else after I've read it, I'm just like goodbye,
oh good bye. I don't need you anymore. Like I'm
never going to read My Court of Thorns and Roses again,
Like I already read it, you know, right right, right right, goodbye.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
We have a lot of books in our bedroom book
most of them are like books we plan on reading
and then. But I also like I I.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Have my whole life.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I still don't really have this, but like you know,
when you see it in fancy houses, there's like a
study or like a room with a big bookshelf. I mean,
I kind of have a big bookshelf, but it's like
in the kid's room, and you know, the top half
of it as mine. There's something aesthetically beautiful about that.
And I also find it, like, I don't know, cozy
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and comforting. So like for me seeing books around that
we've read is just there's something visually kind of cozy
about it that I just joy looking at. And I
just also have a dream of having a room where
there's like a library, a library, yeah, where there's like
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all these books and it's not about like the books
we've read or haven't read or you know, trophies. Let's
be real, it's true not And I do like to
go back and write. I do like go back to
reference like reference books.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
But I don't know, I.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Just it's just something that is like cozy and comforting
to me. Like I will sit in that room sometimes
and like stare at all the books and be like, oh, yeah,
remember that one, or like I still have we have
all the plays that we've read or like worked from.
There's like one that's like full of plays and like
I will thumb through that sometimes or just look at
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it and be like, I don't know, it's like little memories.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I guess, yeah that makessonally that makes sense. I mean
I think library like I'm just saying, like with the notebooks,
what are the notebooks in the drunk drawer? Like what
are are they like spiral notebooks? Are they? Like? Are
they also to look at? Like what is the deal
with these notebooks?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah? There is, Yeah, there's a couple spirals. They're like
David and I are both list makers. Otherwise we can't
remember shit, right, so we have so those sometimes are
I think like the top two notebooks are like our
notebooks that we grab sometimes when we have to make
like bigger lists because we also have like pads of
paper in the kitchen junk drawer, but that's more for
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like shorter lists and groceries and stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
This is junk so far these things belong in the drawer,
Like oh yeah, junk drawer is.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Just like a phrase. And then there's a big notebook
in there that's like a leather notebook that was given
to me as a gift that I was supposed to
use as a journal and I never did.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But it has a very sweet inscription in it, and
I have written in it a little bit. But my
brain is like, rip out the inscription, get rid of
the leather notebook. I can't. I refuse to buy an
ugly notebook. This is like, oh yeah, that's pretty. It
has to be esthetically like pleasant to be out on
the counter.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, in case it's out on the counter. Yeah,
I do that too.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
This one that I'm holding up is like covered in
flowers and stuff. Like in the drawer next to me
is it's my desk strawer, And there's like a compartment
for everything, Like there's a it's this is the desk drawer.
But if I need a lighter, I know exactly where
it is. If I need the pencil sharpener, I know
exactly where it is. If I need the glue, I
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know exactly where it is, the stikler, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
The junk drawer can be organizational. I wouldn't say I'm
trying to think of what else is in that drawer. Oh,
there's there's some eyeglass cases in there in case you
need one.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
We both were glasses.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
It's like, and then there's like some travel stuff. There's
like a ziplock of like charging cords and extra like
squares that.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Goes with the suitcases. There does not need to be
like in the suitcases. It goes with the travel stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, but sometimes we're putting suitcases inside suitcases in our
little like storage area where the suitcases go for saving space.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
There's a little area needs to be near this travel
stuff where like you keep your little travel bags and
like your You're like, yeah, but ours is like outside
and like in the garage. And then there's like, let me,
here's the thing. Different things work for different families, Yeah, obviously,
but like I mean, I feel like we're both saying
the same thing that like isis guys. Our producer was like,
(19:04):
this will be a fun episode, and like as she
said it, I was like, a' so fucking moly, not
it won't. It's gonna give me anxiety. My shoulders will
like up on my ears. I hate liss, I hate it.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I like I will say that things do get tossed
in that drawer a lot, and so every few months
I will empty the whole drawer and throw out shit
and then like kind of just keep the shit that
I know we still use or grab and like, and it's.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Always like half of what was fucking in there.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Sometimes you're just you know what it is too. Like
David a little bit more than me hates like clutter
on like the counter eat on our dresser or like
right and so. But sometimes there's things that you're like,
oh fuck, like I'm you know, I can't throw this
out yet, I might need to get it later whatever,
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or I'm not sure, so it just goes in the drawer.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It's also like just like a like a quiz can't
see me, but I'm rubbing my face because you're just
like trying to declutter quickly and you don't have time
to like go through every fucking thing and check with
your partner do we need this? Do we not?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Can't throw this out, so it just gets like shoved
in the drawer and then we go through the drawer
when it's full.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
System. It's a system. Hate it. We have a kitchen peninsula,
and like Brad is amazing in so many ways, he
will clean the whole peninsula. Everything is like spick and span.
He loves to clean. And then in the middle of
the peninsul will be a giant mountain of just bullshit,
like bullshit that what just put it away? And like
(20:45):
I've realized in our partnership, I am the one. I
am the one that needs to put these things away
or choose whether or not they go in the trash right,
and like I try so hard, like the systems that
I put in place, I try to get him to
understand what it is about the system that I want
to have happened, Like there was there's like a bookshelf.
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We do have a big bookshelf in our living room
that has bottom is kids books, middle is like reference materials,
and you know, there's lots of pictures on the shelf.
And then on the very top of the shelf to
the right is where we're supposed to put the bills.
Incoming bills, outgoing bills. Chargers are in a little box.
And then both of the laptops are supposed to sit
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right on top of each other. And that's it. That's all.
It's supposed to be there. Every time I pass by
and I look at it, and Marie Kondo talks about this,
the visual eye clutter of that is like so fucking
it makes me fucking insane. I want to put my
fists through a wall, like it is horrifying for me,
(21:50):
Like I can't handle it. I can handle it visually,
I just get so overwhelmed. And I think that that's
why I get really overwhelmed when it's like Okay, let's
do this room, you know, like and I can do it.
I like I wish I, you know, could put my
brain in a space where like I'm gonna do this
this week with my partner, but I don't think my
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partner works that way, so like I often feel like
I'm doing it by myself, you know, But like I
just like the visual. The visual of like all the
stuff everywhere is so hard for me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, here's the other thing that really fucks everything up.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Children forget it, honey.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
And the amount of shit that they acquire as they
get older when they come home from a fucking birthday party.
By the way, can we campaign to just get rid
of gift bags a gift by Every time my kid
comes home with a fucking plastic bag, I want to scream, okay,
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because then they want to keep every little fucking plastic
thing that's in there, And I'm like, this is bad
for the environment.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
No one asked you to do this. I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Now they're expecting it.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
What would be a good Like do we just give
them money? Like do we hand them like a five dollars,
like five dollars like as we don't do anything like
I don't have to treat if they want, Okay, a cookie,
A cookie, I like that, an edible gift, an edible gift,
that's nice.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Or like times I was like, in lieu of Favors,
we have made a donation to this charity Favors.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Bye, thanks for coming in lou of Favors. You don't
have bullshit coming into your house. Okay, you can tell
us thank you you are. I am not going to
send you home with some FuG and bullshit.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
A book so could be cute, you know, it's something
that you like, actually use, but I really hate gift bags.
And then they want to keep all of it. And
then now my, you know, they have like their little
bedside tables and in those drawers it's just all the
fucking shit they want to save. And then I have
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to sneak in there and go through it and like
see what I can throw out that they won't miss
or notice, and or like the shoes, you know, they'll
like rip a like a Enzo's a little bit like this,
Like he has a pair of nikes that are absolutely trashed,
absolutely trashed, but he loves that, he loves them, and
(24:31):
so he still has them and we've bought him new
shoes because we're like, these are really bad, you like
you need like nicer. Yeah, these are about to bust open.
But yeah, just like things like shoes, things like you know.
And then I always call it inventory when I this
is also something I do part of my uh spring cleaning,
(24:55):
and it's very overwhelming, but I try to do it. Actually,
you before summer and then before winter because that's when
they need new clothes usually. But like I go through
all their shit, check all the sizes. Inevitably they're shit
in there that doesn't fit them anymore, right, right, that
you know, just goes unnoticed or they just like don't
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you don't put it on them, but you keep it
in the drawer because you're busy.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Right, and then this suddenly it doesn't fit them.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
And it's like eight in the morning when you're rushing
to get them to school and you're like, these pants
don't fit and you just drove them back in the drawer.
So I go through all the clothes, get rid of
like whatever doesn't fit or that they never wear, that
they don't like, whatever it is that has holes in it.
And then yeah, just like all their they're junk and
like they're it's.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Oh my god. And then all the things that come
home from school.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
We have two folders in the kitchen, one for Axle,
one for Enzo that we kind of like, you know,
accomplishments or like things they come home with that they're
proud of that you have to like wait to throw
out because if you throw out in front of them,
you're gonna like devastate them. So I'll like stick it
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in their folder.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
It's true how many of us have like memories of
being like holding back tears while you watch your parents
like throw it away, right.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
You can't do that shit in front of you. Know
how many times I've been caught you have they've caught you.
Oh yeah, they've caught me.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
They go to throw something out and they're like either
what does yeah, and then I'm like, oh my god,
I'm so sorry. That must have been a mistake. Or
I thought you were done with it. We celebrated and
then you know, and then I thought we were done.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
But yeah, and then so I go through those folders
once they start getting fat, Yeah, yeah, better.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Better. That's a good idea to keep the little the
folders in the kitchen or whatever, and like.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Just like two folders in the kitchen so you can
just like throw their shit in there and then you know,
and then I do, like I have a in one closet.
I do have like a little storage drawer with like
just labeled like kid memories of like I'm sentimental, so
like no I have cute drawings or like you know
when they make them do like a thing for their
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birthday and kindergarten that says all their favorite things or whatever,
Like I keep that shit and I put it like
in the drawer because I look at it and sob
when they go to college and totally try to give
it to them and they'll be like are giving this
to me? I want to make sure that you do
have I mean, depending on the kind of person you are,
but I think most of us are sentimental in some
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kind of way. So like you want to just like
you don't want to inundate yourself, but you want to
make sure that you have a space that's like these
are the things that are sacred and like they're not
going anywhere, you know. But it can be hard when
you don't have a lot of space. Like my, yeah,
closets in my house are kind of small, and I
have to be like very strategic about where I put
little storage boxes or things like that and try to
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think of systems that work and then be really selective.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
About what I save. And but saying we don't have
a lot of storage, I mean, and I remember when
we were buying this house, I was like, should be
at a closet or something like we should be, you know.
And there's attic space, which is great. Attic space is
lovely for extra you know, putting things in like plastic
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tins or plastic bags or plastic.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, we have that, like next to our garage. We
like a little storage room, a tiny little room.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, but you don't want to like stick, you know,
I don't know. Attics are also not they get really hot. Yeah,
So I don't want to like say, treasured things up there,
you know, yes, exactly. Do you still have your wedding dress?
I do. I do too.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
It's in a big old box that takes up so
much fucking room. It's like properly, you know, my mom
got it preserved or what she did, and it's just
like in the box that it came in. I just
never opened it and it's just shoved up at the
top of that.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
That storage for. I don't know what I got two boys.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Maybe you never know, they marry women someday and they
want to use we never know ace.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Or some shit. I don't know, but I've seen tons
of videos lately where girls go and like use their
grandmothers or their moms and they turn it into like
a cute little like after party dress or yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Oh, actually my wedding dress would look really cute as
like a little mini actual mini.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, And like I've seen the girls like put little
like cute little sleeves.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
On it, or like, oh, I'm wearing this on my honeymoon.
It was my mom's or whatever, So I think that's cute.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
H I. I feel like what I'm learning in this
conversation is that I don't like to do the big
decluttering because I want it to be I wanted to maintain.
I want it.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, I want to be in a maintaince phase always.
I don't ever want to.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Have to do like the deep dive, because the deep
dive is the thing that makes me. And here I
will be very honest. When we moved into this house,
we used an organizer, we used a professional organizer, and
I was like I am. I don't want any birthday presents.
I don't want any Christmas presents. I don't want an
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anniversary present. I was like, I am serious, Brad, I
want this is the luxury gift that you're going to
get me for my birthday? For for the I don't
want to push present. I don't want any that shit.
I want a fucking real organizer, you know. And I
will say, I mean that's something that not everyone can do,
but everybody. I feel like everybody either knows has a
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friend that's really good at this or is pretty darn
good out of themselves, and like utilize them because if
you can't do this thing on your own, like I
can't do this. I can maintain the system and I'm
really good at it. But you can't talk him up
with this system, y'all. I can't. I did try. So.
The one time that I did this was when I
was moving from being a single person into we had
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I think we'd gotten married and we were now moving
from the apartment that we shared into a house. I
guess I think we're we were building, we were, it
doesn't matter. We were moving, that's the real joint. And
when we were moving I read that Marie Condo book,
Oh The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up, And she's
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got this like incredible system in it, and if you
follow the system, you will get rid of shit, but
you will also be like drowning in a mountain of
your own shit. Like it is you really see how
much stuff you have because she makes you go through it.
She doesn't let you go like room by room. She's like,
start with your books. This is probably why I'm so
brutal about books. Start with your books. Then you do
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your clothes. Then you do I think isis had it
written down, but like I can't remember where it is.
It's like first you commit, yeah, then you have to
like imagine, like what what do you want your ideal
lifestyle to be? And then you start like discarding stuff
and you the method is like does this spark joy?
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So you literally have to put your hands on everything
that you own, and by the time that you're done,
you're like why do I have so much shit? Like
why do I have all this stuff? Like I don't
want any of this, Like I don't want this, you know,
And it's really useful. It takes forever, though it took
I think it took a week to go through everything.
But it was like, you know, I mean I was
put in work. I was like, yeah, I was putting
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in work because you take everything like you take all
of the books off the shelves, like you take you
take all of the clothes out of the closet. You
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
It's not right, Like, wait, let's talk about clothes as
someone who loves fashion and has a lot of clothes.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
How do you get? What do you mean? How dare you?
I speak truth? You do? So this is what I so? Okay,
when I was in Toronto, I had like a bit
of a capsule wardrobe because right, and I actually loved
everything that I bought and wore in Toronto. I was like,
oh my god, these are my colors. I love this
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stuff like I really felt like using less made me
more aware of what I like to wear. So then
when I got back, I went through my whole closet
and that was hell. I went through my whole closet,
got rid of a ton of shit because I bought
a lot of stuff in Toronto. I think the main
rules that I have for stuff is like I don't
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have any hard and fast rules like you know how
you hear, Oh, if you don't wear it in two years,
then you should get rid of it. No, no, no, no.
I have a vintage Valentino dress in my closet that
I've owned for five years. I've never worn it. I'm
waiting for the time to wear it. I'm not getting
rid of that.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
You know, we've all heard my regret story about the
DVF dress that I when I was in my twenties
because I didn't think I was gonna wear it again,
And now forty year only is like, why don't I
have a dress?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah. So there's some things that like I hold onto
that are important. But at the same time, I think
it's very, very very You've got to ask yourself periodically,
do you am I wearing this or am I holding
onto it? Because like, like, okay, So something that I
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learned to do recently is I if I have like
fifteen minutes or whatever, I'll go in my closet and
I'll like try stuff on and take pictures and make
new outfits or whatever. And yesterday I tried on a
sweater that I was like, oh, this is such a
pretty sweater, and I put it on. I like tried
it on with jeans, and I tried it on with
the different pair of pants, and I tried it on
with something else. I was like, I don't like this.
(34:49):
This is really pretty on the hangar. I don't like this.
This is something for me, and I never reach for it.
And that's why, because I don't know how to wear
it in a way that makes me feel like me. Yeah,
so I'm gonna get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
That's a good stuff like that. It's like if I
don't know how to absolutely like grab it and put
it on and wear it in a way that feels
like me, Yeah, I gotta let it go. Yeah, even
if I paid a lot for it, even if it
was a gift, even if like whatever, whatever, you know,
Like that's how I am with books too. I'm like,
I already read it. I did it. I already did it.
I don't want it, I don't need it, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, Yeah, I did do the the hangar trick for
a while where because I again small closet, so I
need to like every spring, like all the winter shit
goes away and I bring out my summer stuff and
vice versa, and so and my friend.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Chazz shout out Chaz.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
He told me about it. He was like, when you
put all that spring stuff, he was like, put every
hanger like backwards, and then when you wear the thing,
like put it back the normal way. And at the
end of the summer you'll see all everything that you
didn't wear that summer.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
And I kind of liked it. It was kind of
a neat trick.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Like at the end of the summer or when I
was whenever I was getting ready to like do the switch,
I saw all these, you know, and some of them
I kept. I was like, oh, I don't wear that,
but I still really love it, and like, you know,
I'm going to keep it.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
And then there.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Were like a lot of things and I was like, oh,
this makes sense why I did not wear this all summer.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I don't think I actually like it. I'm going to
get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It was just like a very easy visual thing. Yeah,
it helped me get rid of stuff. Now we see
you when you shop when you buy, do you get
rid of stuff? Like do you get rid of stuff?
Because I do that one for one yeah, one for
one ish. I mean I try, I really do try.
There is That's why there's.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Like a bag in the corner of my office right now,
I has stuff in it because there is stuff that
needs to go to the donation center. I really try,
but I also don't. I don't always subscribe to that
because I think there are like not holes in my closet,
but there's like things that I'm like what wish I had,
(37:04):
like a you know, yeah, yeah, And if I don't
have it, then I'm not going to get rid of
something that I already wear or like love or have
sentimental value to whatever. You know, I'm not going to
get rid of it just because I brought something new in. However,
I do think I'm not always that way with clothes,
(37:24):
but I am that way with stuff, like yeah, I
don't want You know, a kid's stuff is really a
hard one because they get so attached to toys, and
you know, everybody says, like cycle the toys up, like
with what time? Like when are you guys cycling toys?
Like I don't know, I don't have the time. But
(37:48):
I think that that we did do when we were
cleaning up for Christmas, we stuck a bunch of her
I have to be quiet because she's in the other room.
We stuck a bunch of her stuffies downstairs, and then
before we brought all the stuff he's back upstairs. I did,
like I was like throw like into a bag for
(38:08):
a donation because I was like, oh, she doesn't play
with this, she doesn't play with them for a month.
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
When my kids were smaller, I would if I noticed
there were some toys they weren't really playing with, I
would just put them in a closet and wait. And
if they didn't ask for that toy or they didn't
notice that it was gone out of here here in
the garbage or to the donation center, I think, you know,
(38:35):
one of the things that I think I learned from
the Maricondo thing was like that question of like when
you hold something and it does it spark joy? Part
of that is like it's okay.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
As somebody who grew up with not very much money
at all, it is so hard for me to let
things go when I know I spent money on them.
Yeah it's pretty. And that's something that I've learned as
an adult that's like okay, though, Like yeah, and it
might be easy for me to say, but if if
I'm holding on to something because I spend money on it,
(39:09):
but it is like weighing me down, Like it's in
my house and it's like taking up space. It's causing
me stress, and like you know, it's like I don't
have any room in my closet because I have all
these pairs of gens because you know, I bought them,
but I don't wear them because they don't fit. It's like,
so who am I? How am I winning here? You know,
(39:31):
like this is not a win for me in any way,
shape or form. Right, So that's something that I think
is a way to get more better at This is
like accepting that like you already, like that money's gone,
you already spent it. You done spend it already, you know,
unless this is like a vintage investment piece that we're
talking about, Like let's set that aside. It's like a
(39:53):
shirt or a toy or a book or like something.
It's like the money was already spent. Now do you
still like this thing? Do you still want to have
it around? Or are you keeping it around because you
spent money on it and you've assigned a dollar amount
to it and that's the value of it, Like is
(40:13):
it you know? Or could you get rid of it
or could you get rid of it, could you say
by start it out? Yeah, start it away.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah, it is always very liberating and like.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
When once you do it, Yeah, I want to feel that.
I want to feel that way all the time. I
want I want constant. I say this, I'm like, God, like,
it's not that much. It's it's like five things, but
it's making me crazy because it just make a.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Schedule girl be like I'm gonna do this this day, this, this, this,
like well I have to.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah, I just take schedule letters up and then like
toss these things in the fucking yeah. But also like
put in the schedule put I can't throw these away.
You can't throw those away. Those cutey little handprints like
tulip my kid made a Valentine for me, and they're
like from school and they're little, the little red hand prints.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
See that's what the special kid memory memory were. Yeah.
More better. I don't know, I mean, do you feel
like we like, did we just tell everyone what we
think about those? Like? What?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
What?
Speaker 1 (41:21):
How did we I don't know if I got more
better at this.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
I don't know that we actually gave any tips or
I feel like we just vented.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Oh we did anything today? Today, we just bullshitted. You
know what, if you too thinking that you were going
to get Marie condo tips, think again. Sorry, we should
put a disclaimer at the beginning of this, like this
is just us absolutely just trying to get more better
at that. This is just trying, We're not really doing it.
I do feel inspired for when I go home.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Do you I'm going to get rid of some books, Stephanie,
I'm going.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
To get rid of some books. Text me a little
pile of book I will. I will.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
A little bit of that did creep in because we do.
You know, we have too many piles of books. I
try to make them look cute, like they're like like
on purpose. But it's time to It's time like those
trophies like okay, all right, relax.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Do you feel more better? I do. I feel a
little more better. I feel I feel like I need
to clean out our quote unquote junk drawer. Yuck. Why
do we have all these keys? What do these keys
go to?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Maybe you just have to like rebrand it. Maybe it
just needs a different name.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
It's not a it's.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
It is not I refuse, it's a it's an extra drawer.
It's the brad doesn't know what to do with this.
So it's the it's the yeah, the husband drawer, the
miscellaneous drawer.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
You know, everything has a place, and everything in its
place or whatever however that's saying goes, where's its home?
Oh god, I would at home. That would drive you
would hate it. I would do where does this live? Where?
I would absolutely I'd love to say it. And it's
my favorite thing. This doesn't live in here, This doesn't
live in here? Where does this live? Oh? Shit?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yeah she is, Yeah, she is. Anyway to hear it
in her brain? In her brain. Yeah, when she's an adult,
she moves out. How does this live? She'll like it.
It's fine. Thanks for joining us on today's session of
Bitch About Cleaning. See you next week. Let's see you
next week. Do you have something you'd like to be
(43:36):
more better at that you want us to talk about
in a future episode.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Can you relate to our struggles or have you tried
one of our tips and tricks?
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Shoot us your thoughts and ideas at Morebetter pod at
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iHeartMedia's Mike Utura podcast network, hosted by me, Steffie Beatrice,
and Melissa more Better is produced by Isis Madrid and
Sophie Spencer Zagos. Our executive producers are Wilmer Valderrama and
(44:06):
Leo Clem at w V Sound. This episode was edited
by Isis Madrid and engineered by Sean Tracy and features
original music by Madison Davenport and Halo Boy. Our cover
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