Transform The World w/ Kiki Morris & Darrell Taylor

Kiki Morris and Darrell Taylor join Devyn Simone on the podcast this week! They discuss the growing rift between the Australians, sending home the only Challengers in their alliance and a blockbuster challenge that had a jaw dropping start. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Challenge family. This is Devin Simone and you are
listening to MTV's official Challenge podcast. Oh you guys, I
held my breath at least two and a half times
this episode What about You? Was there a moment where
you caught your so you were like, you know what,
I need to breathe through this. I'm not even on
the TV screen. Was it during the actual Challenge Daily?

(00:24):
Was that the moment that you held your breath? Or
was it in the elimination when they kept dropping the
puzzle pieces. I want to know. Put it in the
comments or the reviews. I want to know, because I
had There were moments with Emily rolling over like that,
like oh my gosh, and then the dropping of the
puzzle pieces. They were like neck and neck. There was
so much going on and I'm here for it. It's

(00:47):
the stuff that we love about an episode.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
You know.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
The saga that is Danny and Tory's relationship is really
interesting to me. It's so funny, like how their dynamic
is working and or not working, and you know how
they're choosing to communicate, and like they actually could really
help each other if they just listen to one another.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
And I want to clarify.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
We're gonna take a moment really quick and go through
some of the comments on you all's reviews, because you know,
we appreciate when you guys leave us great reviews and commentary,
even if we don't always agree, we just appreciate you
being a part of the family.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
So I want to shout out some of the great
reviews that we have, but I also want to point
out one that says they think that I am very,
very like biased towards the VET and that made them mad.
They also think that I am on the West hate train.
I just want to clarify, I do not hate Wes
at all. I think Wes is very entertaining. I think
he's hysterical. I actually think he's a very lovely person

(01:45):
like as a person in the limited times I've spent
with him outside of the game. Do I think Wes's gameplay.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Is particularly smart. No, but that doesn't mean I hate Wes.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
And then, as far as being super loyal to the Vets,
you know what, I'm gonna take that. I realize that
it does sometimes seem like I lean inside with the Vets,
and I'll admit I am a human and not always correct.
I think my viewpoint comes from, though, feeling like you
can sometimes learn things from the Vets that you can

(02:18):
use to your own advantage, right, because like all of
us start at rookies as rookies at some point, and
so like, I get what it was like to be
rookie and the underdog, you know, in my first season,
but by listening there were things that you could learn
and then use your advantage. And so my confusion over
Danny and Sarah's strategy this season is like, not only
are they going after the Vets, which is fine if

(02:39):
this was one of those seasons where you know, it's
like even spies, lies and allies right where you're not
necessarily paired with a VET, but in this instance, you're
literally paired with them. So if you want someone who's
gonna protect Torri out, that means you want someone who's
gonna protect you out like that, Just that part is
the part that leaves me scratching my extinction. That's all

(03:00):
I'm saying. That's all, and it's just a different perspective
in gameplay, but it's all love there. Someone tweeted Real
Housewives and included Danny in it and saying asking why
keep coming for Danny on the podcast. Look, I come
it's my job to critique and analyze anyone's style of gameplay.
It is literally all love with Danny. If Danny and
our teammates, I would hope that we wouldn't be fighting

(03:22):
like Tory and Danny are this season. But who knows.
It's a different vibe when you're in the house. But
just because I don't agree with how you're playing the
game doesn't mean that I don't appreciate you, and doesn't
mean that next season I would appreciate it. Because I
loved Danny's gameplay last season, and I actually didn't like
Sarah's last season, But I like Sarah's gameplay a little
bit more this season, so it changes. That is the
nature of the game. But I think it's important to

(03:44):
separate that, and I think those that really go far,
Like if you're thinking about how you do in a
Challenge house, if you keep watching, it's those who are
able to separate that that seem to be able to
kind of go far, rather than holding on to your
strategy as being whether or not so one like likes
you or support to you. So we're Team Danny over here.
We just don't like how Team Danny's playing at this

(04:06):
exact moment, but it's all love. I also want to
shout out this lovely review from six AM one thousand,
who said that they're not the typical demographic because they're
sixty seven, but they stumbled across the challenge and they're
now a Challenge fan. They are hooked, welcome to the family.
They said that they really are digging the podcast as well,
so we appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Blessed B ninety five said she appreciates us on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Appreciate that as well.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Day g Pegge, I'm butchering that I know I am,
but says that they love the podcast also, so appreciate
all of you guys, and thank you so much for
listening and getting into this, and please continue to rate
review DM follow all that stuff. We really do appreciate
you being a part of the family. Now, a couple

(04:51):
things I want to point out some things that stood
out to meet this week.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
No, it was not to J's fashion for once. It
was though.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Threatening Sarah talking about she's gonna flip the tables if
Sarah like you know, renigged on the agreement that they
had Tory sort of threatening to go all Teresa Judice
on the challenge is just amusing to me.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
And then Tristan. It was interesting that Tristan and.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Kelly Ann and tell me what you guys think about this.
We're so confused and Kelly Anne looked genuinely upset when
she's sitting at the table and the votes are for them, right,
the majority of votes are for them, And my thoughts are, like,
while I think anyone would be disappointed being voted in,
if you're gonna come out swinging as hard as they've
been doing and as hard as we see Kelly In

(05:38):
doing in this particular episode, can you really be surprised
if people turn on you?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
You know?

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Like, does that count as a blind side? I'm interested
to know what you guys think. I kind of feel
like it doesn't, but I'm open. I'm open to discussioning
the topic. So does that count as a blind side?
And even if it does or doesn't, I just have
to say I fully respect Kelly Anne's gameplay and I
respect her accepting of her fate. So once she did
realize that everybody was essentially coming for her, and she's

(06:06):
like it was going to go in. I respect that
she was like, all right, I'm ready for this, Like
whatever happens, happens. I think that is, you know, absolutely wonderful.
All right, So my ruler of the world of this episode,
king or queen of the world would probably have to be.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Emily.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
I mean, like, what that just her recovery and coming
from you know that what looked like a pretty epic
crash and her like getting up and walking away and
be like all right, let's move on next thing, Like
she is just fearless and a badass, and wow, because
I certainly would have been sitting there looking at my
nails to see how many broke, trying to get sand

(06:46):
you know, out of timor or whatever wig I'd be
wearing in that moment rap Tamra, and yeah, I'd probably
be discombobulated. And she was just like ready to rock
and roll. So I respect that so much. And the
person that is out of this world or bad or
you know that we're putting in time out for this week.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
You know, I love seeing Tory and Danny start kind
of working together. So no one really like God on
my nerves this week. Yeah, I think everybody was great.
Everybody was good this week. Everybody played their part. Maybe
maybe it was the car that flipped over. I mean,
I feel like the car was annoying. They shouldn't have
done that to my girl Emily. But otherwise, yeah, it
was really good, such a good episode and we have

(07:25):
some really great guests for you today. We have the
ridiculously funny Darrell Taylor and the fabulous Kiki Morris. I
just I don't know about you, but I am like
loving Kiki. I'm loving Keky this season. I love her energy.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
She just seems like.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
She has such good vibes and I love that we
continue to get to see them and watch them in
the game. So we are going to chat with them.
So grab your snack, get comfy and cozy, I don't know,
go for a run, do whatever you do when you
listen to this podcast. Whatever you do, don't take your
earphones out, don't disconnect because you are definitely not gonna
want to miss this. Right after this commercial break, you guys,

(08:15):
it's that time. We have a fabulous interview for you
today with Look. I'm just gonna warn you because I
already know it's gonna go left because of one of
the people that's here for this interview, and by left
I mean in all the good ways, but but none
of the ways that we've planned. We have the fabulous
Keky Morris and the absolute nutty but lovable Darrell.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Hi, guys, how are you?

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Where's von You know what, Darrell?

Speaker 1 (08:40):
I can hang up on you on on this call.
I have that power and ability and I will do
it in a Harvey. Don't you test me?

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Don't you know? I love you too? But I thought
that Vonn was coming on too. Well.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Every once in a while we get some good surprises.
So you're welcome. Durell.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Okay, well, congratulations, I heard you getting married.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I'm Kiki. Welcome to the crazy family. That is the challenge.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Thank you so much. I feel like I have always
known some of these people. I feel like these are
the family members I've always longed for, These crazy people
that I've met on the World Championship that are now
lifelong friends.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Did you always long for them or there's some that
you long less for?

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Yeah, there's a few on there that are like that.
Cousin removed that this is the family members waiting you
don't like I mean in the cast, but no, I
definitely had an amazing time on the World Championship and
loved every minute of it being Darrell's partner.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
We loved watching you guys. You guys are such a
fun and dynamic team and watching your story this season
has really been interesting. Can you tell us a little
bit more about this dynamic with you and the other
Aussies because it seemed from a viewer, it seems like
there are moments where you know there's kind of this
camaraderie and then other moments where you.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Feel left out.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
So can you tell us a little bit more just
like about that the history of that.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
Absolutely. I think part of my personality trait is I
am just I'm a friends with everyone kind of person
and I don't hold a grudge. However, I also need
to check myself and you know, kind of draw back
into reality a little bit realize. I sent Emily home
in the Australian Challenge and I didn't realize onto that.
So when I get to Cape Town, I'm like, hey,

(10:21):
em what's happening And she's a bit stand offish and
I was like, oh, still hold a bit of a
grudge or good? Little did I know that she had
it out for me from day one, and God blessed Troy.
He was warning me. But I'm so naive when it
comes to being friends with people. And I really thought
that Australia was a strong team. And then now watch
missed back with everyone else at home. I'm realizing Grin

(10:44):
Emily weren't necessarily gunning for the opposition of other countries.
They're actually for me from the get God, so I
mean kicking the art.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
I tell you I was the naive or because she
kept telling me and I was like, now we're in yes,
we'll never do that and yeah, So if anything, I
was the naive one.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, Darryl, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
I thought that I was strong and united. I couldn't
have had it a better way. I had Amber, who
the only girl I trusted in the house.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
She was Ausy.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
And then I had fucking Yes, the only dude I
trust one hundred percent was Ausy. I couldn't have had
it that way. It was perfect for me. But obviously
people had different agendas.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
So there's no Darrell in team Darrell. It's no both
of you. It's not it's not.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Kiki. You bring up a good point though, right, So
you said, Hey, I you know I thought we'd all
be kind of gung ho coming into this challenge. Then
I realized Emily still had it out for me because
I sent her home without giving anything just away. In general,
now that this is your second season, you're watching it
at home with the rest of us.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Now, like getting to the episodes.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Do do you feel any differently about Emily holding that grudge?
Like like, okay, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
Yeah, absolutely. I feel like we're not in high school anymore,
and I feel like we both signed up for the
Challenge Australia knowing it was a competition. I don't think
I was ever vicious or vindictive. I always cheered, even
watching the episodes of every single daily challenge, I'm cheering
for Emily. I'm like, you know, cheering for every person,
even Team USA, I'm cheering for you, see me. I

(12:20):
think it was in the Rocketman one I was screaming.
I lost my voice that day because I cheered for everyone.
I like a participation of what everyone gets one and
I forget that we're competing for big money and I
need to sometimes be a bit more competitive. I could
make everyone cupcakes and cookies and we just sing Kumbaia.
That's the ultimate challenge for me, but I also have

(12:42):
to compete with these people, and I forget that in
order to be competitive sometimes you have to make an
enemy in your brain to make it. Yeah, to try
and beat someone, absolutely person, it's going to be a
bit harder for someone to go after them and try
and beat them. So I think it's sometimes a safety
thing to make sure that you don't get too close
with people in this competition, because eventually your feelings are

(13:04):
going to get in the way of winning money. So
I think for the next time around, if I get
invited back, I need to not be best friends with everybody,
and I look out for myself absolutely.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
And let's talk about we see a conversation where you
guys are kind of talking about throwing in a USA team.
So can you guys clarify who is in your alliance
at this point?

Speaker 4 (13:26):
I guess our alliance really is only Kelly An and Ben.
Hi wait, it's Ben been hid are gone?

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Right?

Speaker 5 (13:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (13:34):
Yes, yeah, So it's just weird, really just Kelly and interesting.
I mean, I thought I had guess, but at the
same time, he letting Emily take the reins on it
to run it. I get us a partnership but she
basically just punked him the whole season.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah. But then.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Yeah, yeah, me and Kikky would talk about stuff, and
there would be like there was times like where she
would say something and I knew it's a partnership, so
in fact that and I'm willing to work with her
with that and we've got to figure it out. But
for some reason, it looked like Emily just pumped yes
the whole season.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah, I said it, you heard it.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
First, You did say it. Say it, Drell.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I have a question for you, being a veteran of
the show and being a longtime married man.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
You have a beautiful wife, beautiful kids. Do you think that.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
You're how as soon as you said that, she loved
to hear that.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Oh good, tell her, I said, Hi, do you think
although this might be a question for her to be honest,
but my question is good question. Do you think that
your experience in marriage and partnership played a role as
an asset in you being a partner in this game?
Like were there things that you've taken from your you know,

(14:45):
experiences being a husband and teamwork in that way and
utilizing it as a team in this.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Personal training and just learning how to motivate people because
you know, you get people that don't want to move,
eat them.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
But I think it has to do it just being
a personal trainer.

Speaker 5 (14:59):
Yeah, reason why I picked Drell as my partner because
I said to myself, I'm like, this guy is married
with kids, which means he has a lot of patience,
He juggle his time, and he's also a personal trainer,
which means he motivates people to get the last rep
out of them on a daily basis. So when I'm
trying to give up, he's that fire at my backside

(15:20):
to tell me to keep on pushing. And that was
like the definitive moment that made me choose Drell in
that first decide what we did the yeah, yeah, he's
just yeah, he's the best partner for that matter.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
What was the best thing that you learned from Durell
in your time as his partner?

Speaker 5 (15:37):
The thing with Drell, Though he taught me a lot
of things, he taught me to actually believe in myself
a lot more because you didn't see it on the
tunnel time. But I get really anxious in confined spaces,
and I'm really anxious with numbers because I've always struggled
with I've had like numeric dyslexia my whole life, where
I get numbers jumbled up in my head. And he

(15:59):
will behind me saying the whole time, just take a time, kicks,
You're gonna be fine. And I mean, I think in
our heat in tunnel time, I beat Justine because well,
they're motivating me and takes me out of that anxiety state.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
So we would just the bananas ass every challenge.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
You can't put that for record. I was not gonna
let Justine beat us.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
She picked bananas before me, and yeah, we whooped the
ass every challenge.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I feel some personal like you know she's coming from
that Durell.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
It's okay, whatever it is, what it is.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
And Kiki, she shows up every time though she would
have these like and at first I was like, Okay,
maybe it's just one, you know, one time, but it
would happen and then that can find she fucking shows
up every time she had her in hell, her out
puffing away. I don't think I'm going to do it,
but you know what, she shows up and kills it
every time.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Every time.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Kiki, what's the worst thing you learned from Durell on
this season?

Speaker 5 (16:56):
I mean look, I feel like you see it when
we have our little diary room confessional box thing, like
Durrell just has sometimes got word vomit. He just claps
up with anything. And I mean one thing I think
I did in our little confessional box moments was kind
of keep him on the DL because here just be
blurting out how he feels about everyone. And I'm like, dude,

(17:16):
this is going to go on television in a couple
of months. They can't see what you think about them.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
M hm.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
So when we're in there together, I feel like I
somewhat of wraps on him. But when he does his
own little confessional box stuff, you see him going off
talking smack on everyone.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
So speaking of talking smack in or nonsense, did you
guys ever get on the same page around pear shaped.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Shape like a body type? You know, like like someone
would ask. So I was a little confused.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
All one pear shaped is meaning like what was going
really well in a smooth direction? The plan was good,
it was set. It goes pear shaped because it's a
bump in the road. It's figure speech. I don't know,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
That's no I knew what you I knew what you meant.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Just you ain't never heard that before. That's allsie talk.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
I have to Also, my fiance is Australian, but I have.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Heard the one that ever we met. Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yes, I know, I'm okay. So you guys are a
really dynamic team. I feel like we don't see you
making a bunch of moves.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
You know, you know what it is.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yes, Ikey is a social butterfly and that's probably what
had Emmy Emily little struck on her too, the fact
that he goes around and she's talking. She would be
talking to everybody, hanging out with everybody, and I would
be doing the same on the other side. So keeps
very social and like she like she's like the life
of the party. She's very outgoing, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
I get anxiety when we have any strategy talk. I'd
say to Drell, I don't want to know what we're doing.
You just say what we're doing when we get there.
Keep me out of it because I can't lie. Anyone
puts me in a corner and says, Kiki, what are
you and duo band strategizing about? I'll just blurt that
shit out because I can't keep the secret. So so
the strategy is, don't tell Kiki what we're doing and

(19:03):
it will secret good.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
I hope any potential partners of Kiki is listening to
this episode.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, I don't want to know.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
Keep me out of the plan.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Kiki.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
You mentioned feeling like you have a lot to prove
this season. Can you tell me a little bit more
about that and why this season is so meaningful to you?

Speaker 5 (19:28):
Yeah. I think for me coming from my background in
Australia as a childhood in my teenage years, I grew
up in kind of a small town and tall poppy
syndrome was rife. So if you're really really good at something,
you needed to kick yourself up to be bullied and
preyed upon. So I feel like my whole life I
set myself to just cruise at the same level as

(19:52):
everyone else, to not put a target on my back.
But in things like the challenge, you have to attempt excellent.
Every single gotta be good. Yeah, a constant struggle within
myself to go, this is the one chance now you
actually can prove yourself that you are good at these things.
But my has always said, don't be too good, be

(20:12):
good enough, but not too good that people will dislike you.
I think that people pleasing mentality from my childhood has
followed me into an adulthood, and I've really had to
push myself every single week in these challenges to know
it's okay to be good at something, it's even better
to be great at something, and it's even more fabulous

(20:32):
to be good at all those things and not care
what people think about you because it doesn't define you
absolutely what this whole experience has taught me about myself.
But in the pressure cooker, that is the challenge house.
The need to be liked versus the need to be
the winner. Yes, and I'm still struggling with that now and.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Girl, you will be struggling for it in season nineteen
hundred and seventy eight. It is forever the delicate balance.
But it's been beautif for kind of just watching you
come into your own And it's interesting what you say
that you know, initially you kind of taught yourself. You
grew up feeling like you want to just coast because
it's sort of the safe space. And yet you come

(21:12):
in here and you win the very first elimination of
the season.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
What was that like for you?

Speaker 5 (21:17):
I was actually going to disqualify myself before I even
did the first elimination. Oh why because when I found
out it was a poor wrestler, it was a physical
kind of I'm really I have really bad anxiety. I
came from a background of domestic violence. That kind of
physical closeness, physicalness of that challenge was making me feel

(21:40):
a bit anxious. I had PTSD still carrying from a
previous relationship that was quite physical, and I didn't know
if I was going to be able.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
To do it, like I wanted to power through all
of that.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Funnily enough, one of the producers who I grew really
close with on the Australian Challenge kind of just sat
me down and had a word with me before I
was going to disqualify myself. Just said, like, this is
an opportunity for you to to yourself that you're not
gonna let what someone did to you in your past
to find who you're going to be in your future
and to just push through and do it. And I mean,

(22:14):
I'm a strong person. I grew up with an older
brother that WWE wrestled me every weekend, every weekend without sale,
So I'm like, I know these moves and I can
kill this. So I kind of brushed myself off and
pulled my head out of like, you know, the sandbox.
I wanted to bury it in and just run away,
and I ended up obviously sending Claudia a home in
the first elimination.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, that's so powerful, and I'm sure so many of
us are so glad that you're still here.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Drell. You've done a billion and a half of these?

Speaker 1 (22:45):
What is it like for you?

Speaker 2 (22:48):
You know each is it different for you each time?

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Do you kind of come in and there's a part
of you on autopilot because you know how this goes,
You've won, you know, you're a multi time champ. What
is it like for someone with your challenge pedigree coming
into the World Championship House.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
What is it like?

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah, I guess you could say that's pretty much auto pilot.
You gotta be able to roll with the punches and
it's it's just you just can't really predict what's gonna happen,
So you got to just be able to ride the
waves and survive and show time to go in just win,
and that's pretty much it, you know, I mean I
don't really try to I mean politic too hard how

(23:30):
much I could do. I kind of let everybody else
start like killing each other off, you know, But I
like one thing I do gotta get off my chest.
When people kept trying to say when Danny came to us,
we had our first kangaroo court, it was like trying
to get us saying, oh, Grant was like, oh, they're
they're working with us. They want us to throw in Jordan.
They was not finna fucking throw in Jordan. Who on

(23:51):
the USA is gonna.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Say Jordan's name? Not one of them fuckers.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
So when they showed me saying that, I know, like,
come on, are you serious We're gonna do that dirty work.
We're gonna like say George's name and he still ain't
gonna get a majority vote, right, and you know what
I mean, it's gonna put like that was so man,
I just want to get that off my chest. But
stuff like that, I don't strike until it's time to
until it's time to strike.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
You know, mm hmmm, that's fair. Okay, I'm glad you
got that off your chestrail. This is this is the
safe space place. By the way, both of you so share.
It's only me here, No one else is listening except
for maybe like a few million people.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
But it's fine. Let's talk about.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
This episode, because like, there was a lot this episode one.
We'll get into the elimination. I'd say this is I
thought this elimination was just so cool and interesting and
required so much so can't wait to talk about it
with you guys. But before we get to that, let's
get into this daily. Okay, So you show up.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
I take full responsibility.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
Yeah, fuck you, Daryl.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
I mean, she thought I was afraid of heights, and
I was like, nah, I'm fine, but she's like, no,
I don't like driving on the right side.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Of the road or whatever the opposite.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
I know, and I'm not sure A really good drive
off I even though it. I actually just had an
accident in my partner's car here in spite and he
lost his side mirror because of me. But gosh, apart
from that.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Responsibility for us getting lest right now, I don't like
driving fast.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I love to drive.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
Boss. We should have talked about this, dude ship.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, I take back what I said about your communication skills, bro,
And also from the sounds of it, neither of y'all
need to be driving anything ever.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Since I got precious cargo, so I have no need
for speed anymore.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
So it's a big difference. But yeah, that's responsibility. I
didn't put the pedal to the metal.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Not at all.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Not.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
You left the pedal straight up in the air. It
was it was just hanging out in the air.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Drell.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
But before we even get to that part when you
guys saw Emily's accident, because I couldn't even believe that,
you got yeah, like when you okay, please walk through
that moment.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
You do you remembering really hard to Emily crashes and
then she crashed?

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Did I put a hands on her? I remember?

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Wait you said that?

Speaker 5 (25:57):
Yes, I really hope Emily rolled it and doesn't finish.
And next minute she rolls it.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
The medics coming out, we didn't know if she was
all right.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
I was like, I hope she doesn't get make it back.
She's been cured.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Wow, Okay, So walk us through though in that moment.
So okay, they went first, right, and you see it
roll and I know you know as we're watching it
at home that I was holding my breath because you
see her kind of fall out of the or not
fall out, but you know, like.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Lay out on the sideround thing.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, like, so was Emily in the dode she ride
back with you guys or did they have to take
her if we were in the.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Kind of paramedics for a minute and checked her around.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
She was fine, and then when Tory rolled it looked
like nobody really reacted when Tory rolled over, and then
Toy was laughing when she got out of the car,
which was, you know, sort of hilarious.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
But what was the chatter happening there?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Were you guys just like whatever, she'll be fine, or
were you guys worried all over again?

Speaker 3 (26:49):
But she just kind of tipped, She didn't really roll
like it.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
Wasn't as a violent kind of jolting Like I think
Emily had a bit of shock when she kind of
rolled it because it was she well obviously whiplash and
you say it actually kind of whimpering and screaming because
it would have really scared it absolute the Jesus out
of it. But everyone was fine, Thank the heavens.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Was it fun to do?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
I mean, I know y'all came in last, but otherwise,
aside from Darrell's driving his daisy speed, was it like
a fun challenge to do it?

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Was. Yeah, it was really fun. It was an adrenaline rash.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Nonetheless, yeah, not too many people could say they get
to drive off of a back of the truck, So
that part, I guess it is pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
After the doors, I mean that.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Was so cool.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I'll never look at a granny
car the same way again, Dryl. I will always think
of you. Now when you guys find out that you
were last and go back into the house. At that moment,
who were you thinking you're likely going to go against?
Did you have any inclination of the plan that was
about to take place at all? Was there any like
mumbling going on? Are there other people you thought were

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going to be sent in?

Speaker 4 (27:51):
I mean, we knew we were probably going against uh,
Kelly Anne and Tristan are possibly leaving Troy or Troy Hacy,
But we knew for a fact most likely it was
going to be Kelly Anne. And interesting because what you're
doing this game is they always put you in against
your allies.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
Yeah right, they can just weaken your numbers and pick
off your whole alliance basically, and that's their attempt. Obviously,
we see it here tonight that it was Tristan's birthday,
so we felt I know, I felt especially bad because
you don't want to send someone home on their birthday,
especially after they came out of being sick to win

(28:26):
a challenge the week before. They didn't get to home
on their birthday. I felt like an asshole. I'm not
going to lie.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
How did you guys feel about Kelly Anne's assertive we'll
call it that gameplay.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Particularly.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
I think she's a legend like she and that she
still was trying no damn well, she.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Was sitting there, she was like, Okay, I gotta go.
This is too many numbers.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
I gotta go.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
You think I will put in Tori and Danny? Right?

Speaker 2 (28:53):
It was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
I mean, I respect for someone who genuinely believes anything
is possible, like I mean respect, but her approach and
we see a little bit of a tear between Tristan
and Kellyan at a point because of her delivery, right,
like when she was talking to Yes and she's kind
of like, Okay, just do this, like make it happen.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Like Kellyan seriously cracks me up.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
I love her and I think she's so entertaining like
she's but yeah, what what were your thoughts about her
actual approach and how she Do you think she would
have gotten further if she maybe finested a little more?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Do you think that would have made a difference.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Who knows? It was funny she.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Didn't lose Ben har and Jody and and b didn't
our numbers would have been strong that that would have
been a totally different game. But Kelly Anne was moving
mad like every opportunity she could, she was strategizing. And
I feel like some of these guys that stick around
on their you know, their their their legends, and they're
coming back and back time and time again. I have

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the balls to strategize the way.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
I want to go down and a blaze of glory.
I don't want to play my cards safe like she. Yeah,
legends of how she plays.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, respect on that.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
All right, guys, before we get into it anymore, I
definitely want to hear it. Let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back after this. Now, when you
guys found out that Jordan and Kaz were the ones

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who won giving your allies.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Did you did you feel pretty safe?

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I mean as safe as you can feel being in
the bottom, But you know what I mean, did you
feel pretty good about it?

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Or were you lost?

Speaker 3 (30:41):
I was not even man, we lost, we're going in?
I really wasn't.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah, I don't know. I really wasn't. I wasn't really
worried about it.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Worse, knowing you're going in because you're last or being
voted in the bottom sucks off.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
I'm not gonna lie. It's the worst.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah, not knowing and didn't have and the will deal
with the anxiety and do do I kiss?

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Ass? Do? I like try to play the game and
then it don't even fucking work anyway? Why kiss?

Speaker 5 (31:06):
But knowing that people are talking about you behind your
back in rooms and trying to figure out who we're
going to vote for, people will smile to your face
and then go talk in a room behind your back
and say let's put kicking and durell in. That is
the most frustrating feeling, because I'm like, you just fucking
said hi, doing me in the kitchen and yeah, they've
been worrying you're safe to my face twenty minutes ago, Like,
don't fucking lie to me. That's all I'm asking for.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, And that's a fair that's a fair request. Now
we saw that Keiki handled her stress via cleaning. Uh, Darrell,
how do you handle your stress in those moments I
go take a nap?

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yeah, if you take a nap, when you go and
hang out in your bathroom downstairs.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I was just about to say the bathroom key because
I remember Darrell we talked about this in a previous aftermath,
had a list of notes he would take and he
would take him on the toilet.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yes, good to know Durell is still derelling.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, I still study the seasons.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
I write all the seasons down then I studied I
don't forget him case.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
And that's your toilet reading.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah. If I always sad to look into my pod,
I'm where's my pot? Is he going? Is he taking
a nap? Or is he in the bath rooms the
any place I had to look for?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
That is hilarious in so many ways. That is hilarious.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
What's the vibe like at this point in the house, Like,
what's the energy or you guys, because I know you know,
avid listeners will know this. Those who are kind of
newish to the show may not. But there is a
certain level of camaraderie or tension that occurs over time
because when they're not competing. I know, back in my day,
we used to call it ice, so it'd be like

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interview day, competition day, elimination day, right, and that would
sort of be the schedule, and then you'd have an
off day in the weekend where you get to just
as a group, you go to a movie or hang
or a movie night or something like that. So what
is the vibe like now as the numbers are getting
smaller in the house that we're not seeing, are people
kind of getting along aside from the strategizing part? Is
it just complete tension everywhere? Has it not changed very

(32:59):
much since you first got there? What's what's the feeling like?

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Everybody's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Emily and Sarah never leave their room, but other than that,
it's Danny would come out and play people booth but
for the.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Most no, but Danny was cool. Me and Danny hung
out a lot.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
But yeah, it was just everybody was pretty much respectable.
I just didn't know how much Kiki kept warning me
about Emily, And that's where.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
I really why don't you believe? Why didn't you believe Keiki?

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Especially because Keky obviously comes across as just smart and
also it's just super honest.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
I mean, she said herself that she can't keep a secret.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
About anything, so like, why didn't you believe her when
she was saying, Hey, I feel like this is going on.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Well because I guess you was partnered with yes, and
I was trusting yes.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
M It's funny how you see the people's character, Like,
as much as it's so true, I have no bad
blood with anyone because you're playing a game for yourself
and most part you know, play it with integrity, play
it with honesty. But at the same time, if you've
got to keep secrets and you've got to keep people
at arm's length, go ahead and do it, but just
don't lie to people, especially when long term relationship Like

(34:04):
I only met the people in my challenge last year.
We've done one season together. Some of you guys have
done it for years and years and years, and outside
of this game that we filmed for six to eight weeks,
you got to spend the rest of that year like
knowing that you stabbed a friend in the back like
this with myself, and if they can, hey, that's a
that's a characteristic that I envy in them, because my
conscience is way too strong to be treating people like

(34:27):
they are you know nothing, So I mean it's how
everyone plays the game. It's different.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Absolutely. Now let's get into the elimination. This one seemed
so cool. How did you feel when TJ told you
what you guys.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Were going to be doing?

Speaker 5 (34:43):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Well, I thought we was going to have our own stick.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Well, of course we had our own stick, but I
thought we had to do it by ourself, one by one.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
So you weren't. You just weren't listening to TJ. AT's
what you say. That's unbrand.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
That tracks cool, kiky, how did you feel about it?

Speaker 5 (34:59):
Look again, you see my anxious energy come through in
this one. I get really really fat, Like my poor
fiance actually says it all the time. I get really
hyperactive and really really fast, and like I'm moving really
quick and I'm not creating, and I get really snappy.
And poor Durrell copped the brunt of this in this
elimination challenge because it was really frustrating. I think we

(35:21):
were there for like an hour and forty five minutes, Like,
and those those chopsticks are fucking heavy, and like my.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Arms were they really oh wow?

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Because watching it, they don't look obviously there are certain
level of balance that looks challenging, but they don't come
across as heavy initially.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
But they were interesting.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
And again there's a line on the chopstick as well
that you can't put your hands past. But the closer
you are to the middle of the chopstick, the more
control you have of ourse. You know, you're trying to
be really strategic and displace the weight. Well, the blocks
that we're transporting are made out of styrofoam, like what
your television comes packed in, so they're like light as
a feather, So a simple little movement, we'll put that

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thing out of the chopstick and snapping at Darrell, Darrell's
telling me to calm down. Never in my life if
I thought about murdering something more than I have in
that moment when he told me to calm down, I
was like, don't you tell me to calm down? Like
a rage that came over me. But I mean we
pulled it out in the end and took home the
wind in that one.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
So yeah, we saw you guys start to get on
like in a vibe. How dar how did that like?
Because you guys were like not at them in the beginning.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
From the gate, I knew we had this one.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
Yeah, but then about fifteen minutes I was like, oh shit,
and I was like, well, no, I can lose to Trician,
to Kellyanne, nothing against it, but I'm like, no, there's
no way in hell we're losing.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
And then we finally just slowed down and we got
our rhythm together.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
And we just got it. We we just got it done.
But it was very frustrating. I'm not gonna lie because
it's teamwork and you're gonna drop them. It's gonna happen.
You're gonna get all to the end and it's gonna fall.
It's gonna happen, you know. But yeah, Kiki stayed strong.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
She never gave up. I was so proud of her.
She never quit and that's all you can ask, you know.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
When what was the vibe so you take home the
w obviously you're excited. Yes, What were your feelings both
about Chopsticks from this point forward and then also about
saying goodbye to Tristan and Kelly Enn was that Were
there any strong feelings there?

Speaker 5 (37:21):
Was?

Speaker 1 (37:21):
It just kind of like, hey, guys, game, We'll played
on to the next step.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Like, what were you guys feeling well, we.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Knew we were at the bottom of the total pile
in the house. We didn't have no alliances now much
like we have.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
No allies, Like Troy is somewhat safe in the fact
that he's partnered with Casey, Emily and yes, have got
the safety of Sarah and Danny. Jurelle and I just
literally fucking freeze at this point. We got nowhere to go.
No one's going to protect us. We're basically up shit
creek without a paddle.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Are you guys regretting your strategy at this point?

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Then your socialization, your you know, strategic strategy, I mean even.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
The most strategic people in the house. We didn't have
the camaraderie and the background of Sarah and Danny doing
the US Challenge together. We didn't have the joy. I
haven't been engaged to Tory, so I was already out
on that one. And then Tory and Casey are bestie.
So it doesn't matter how well we would have strategized,
we still were never gonna have the safety because the
relationships just weren't there.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
But is that true?

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Because Sarah and Emily hadn't met and they who proposed
I didn't Emily propose to Sarah in their room in
one episode.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
Over the fact that they weren't very sociable. So I
mean they.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Time, Yeah, yeah, I mean I yes, did talk to
me a few times a lot, actually, but I just
I just felt like he was Ben in his back
over for Emily more and I get he's playing this
game trying to have allis Era.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
And who's also connected to Danny.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
But now you also see they about to cut his
ass too, so like, and this also goes back to
show after watching this, I didn't know how much Ben
like because me and Ben.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Never really talked.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
But I wish I would have had these conversations with
Ben because Ben looked like he was ready to go,
And I wish I would have pulled been on our
side because he was in the back seat of all that,
Like I'm in the back seat all that, and we
could have worked together and made some shit happen.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
But of course he got sick too though, so but yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Does that mean then, after watching all of this that
when you guys come back, you know, regardless of whatever
we see, there's so much to see for the rest
of this season. But obviously we're watching you guys still
in the house. So now you have some you know,
additional perspective because you're sitting at home and watching conversations
that have occurred, you know, while you were in the
room and all of that. Are you guys inspired that
for whenever you come back in future seasons to approach

(39:34):
the game a little differently given what you've seen, or
do you think you would still go at it exactly
like you've been doing.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Now, break that ship up right off the jump, you
Pattns and best friends.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Your ass gotta go.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
That's it. If I ever go into a challenge and
there's a Casey of Jordan and a Tory in.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
That challenge, all of them, they all gotta go.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
Everybody in and go. Guys, take it from me and
Droll you know anything. You know that this group of people,
they'd be broken up because yeah, we never had a
chance in any alliance Blungs those guys are around.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yeah, but I will say everybody wanted the team, wanted
to be on Team USA for the most part, because
they knew how strong they were. Like we didn't get
to see like all the other seasons of like the
Aussie's or the UK but we did see USA, and
we knew that Justine, Danny and Sarah were tight and
even been to a certain degree, right, and it's just
so happened that.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah, it's just yeah, whatever it is, what it is.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, it's always a learning I mean, that's the thing
about the challenge, right There's it not only pushes you
to your physical limits, but it also is an interesting
social experiment and you kind of learn how you navigate
amongst people, and you know ways to do it where
you feel like you're maintaining integrity to your point, Kiki,
where you're like, honest, I play straightforward game da da da,

(40:54):
and then in ways that maybe you take liberties with that.
But it's always like this evolving thing, you know, time
and time again. I don't think anybody who's done the
show that we've watched, even people like you Durell or
Bananas or Tory Nanni who played it a million and
a half times, I don't think they ever come back
into the house playing the exact same game that they
did before, you know what I mean, Like, there's always

(41:16):
some twist up a little bit.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Yeah, I definitely learned. I'm playing like them. None, I'm
just playing for that season. Matt I ain't worried about
next season like Danny he was. He was going hard
with trying.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
To Yeah, that's a good So I want to ask
you about that too, you guys, because there I've been
reading the comments and there's definitely some chatter around. You know,
obviously some people, you know, some people like to call
it like team bets, team newbies. Some people are like, no,
you just want to kind of strategize and be smart
about it, and some people are very much loving that
Danny like Danny just seems Danny and Sarah to like

(41:47):
have it out for any of the you know, Legends players.
What are you all's thoughts about their strategy and just
coming in being vocal and going hard for old school.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Their strategy work.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Danny and Tory, their strategy works for the simple fact
that he's aligned with all these people that's Toy's not
aligned with, and Toys aligned with all the people he's
not alliance that they.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Are completely safe.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
They nobody never said their name, so it was the
smart on their part.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
They didn't even know they were doing it.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
I would say, yeah, that didn't seem intentional. That's because
we see them fighting over right about not getting on
either side, but who side? Looking at that duo, whose
side would you be on? Around like, you know, Danny saying, hey,
we need to get out. I was Sarah, bah blah,
we need to get out Jordan, all these other people.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
I would have been on Danny's side.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
Absolutely. I think the logic behind what Danny was trying
to do was saying that if we don't break up
these long standing relationships within the legends, there's never going
to be a chance in hell for anyone else's alliance
is to become, you know, the standalone ones to make
it to the final, because the skill behind these masterminds
like Bananas and Tory, they if you don't break that

(42:58):
shit up, they're gonna every time because they've been.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Doing this a lot longer than But here's the point
that makes it so interesting in this game. And I
hear you and agree with both of you all's points.
But this is what makes this season the World Championship different.
Danny breaking up security for Tory breaks up security.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
For Danny because they're on the same teams.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
It's different when it's seasons where you have two newbies
and two vets and to totally but breaking up an
alliance that's helping your own team.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
I feel personal.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's that's the part point exactly exactly in
any other season, it makes sense. But why not If
Tory has such a tight alliance that she's fighting with
you over it, then that means that that alliance she
is certain is going to protect her, and therefore you
why not at least utilize that to get a little
further first, and then you know, cut ties, do what

(43:56):
you need to do instead of like being so vocal.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
And I respect him for him fighting to that point, right,
like he fought to prove a point for the greater good,
not just for you know, using her alliance as he's safety,
because he wanted to say, we have just as much
right to be there. But I mean it did shoot
him in the foot in the sense that they fought
at every single nomination.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah, what were you gonna say?

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Jern I said, maybe maybe they maybe they were doing that.
Maybe they had us all food and that was their
whole way of playing the game.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Tori and Danny, Yep, boy bye, they're not. They did
not trust me. That was not order, that was not
all right.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
We're just gonna keep acting like we want to throw
each other's alliances in and then we'll be safe the
whole way.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
They would need an oscar A Bafta and Emieta sag
Award if that was acting.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Yeah, but I think he made promises to people too.
So then once you start making promises you don't want,
that's good. You feel like, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
That's why this season was so good.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
While that while we were doing our thing, that the
MVPs were already starting to make a line and they
didn't even know who they were partnered with.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Oh and that's true. They all made.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
Could always do this formatic and get a group of
different people, let them stay in the house or meet
for like a couple of days, let the alliances and
then these other people come in. All right, now you
guys are paired up, and then it's gonna be like,
oh my god, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, So they were like prematurely kind of buddying up,
not realizing how it.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
So I always say, never start making alliances until you
know all the rules.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Right, right, that's fair because there's twists every season anyway.
So it's like you think, you know, yeah, oh you
know what, that's so insightful. And maybe two, that's why
Danny and Sarah pushed so hard on this game plan
that they seemed to have had coming into the house,
but it didn't really it wasn't really applicable for this
season because again, they weren't partnered against the Vets. They

(45:47):
were partnered with the Vets. So yeah, I think we
cracked the code.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Guys. I think that's brilliant.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
I'm sitting here, my mind's getting bloorn right now. I'm
in the house again thinking about it all again.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Yes, all the strategies, like, yeah, okay, that's really that's
really interesting. Well, I'm glad to see you guys back
in the house. Like I said, I was also so
I was holding my breath when Emily's crash happened, But
I was also holding my breath as we got down
to the final uh tangerine puzzle pieces.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
According to Drelledy, yes to the needy, greedy, shout out
to Nelson.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Happy, hopefully recover. So man get well, brother, we do hope.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
So we all love Nelson so much, very very much.
And so you're doing the tangerine puzzle pieces and as
it started getting it was neck and neck. Was there
a moment in that elimination where you thought, you know what, actually,
I think we might lose this, be honest, No, I.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Was like, well, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Even when it got really close, you got because it
was like, nah.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
That's when I was like, hold on, we need to
take it down. Just let me let us work real quick.
Hold on, and then we just put it up. And
then we got it.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
I mean, for.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
We knew that we had it then because they were
they were not communicating well. As the as it went on,
accunication got better, their communication got worse. And that's what
I felt like, Okay, we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Be fine, gotcha? Yeah, yeah, Darrell? Do you agree with that? Drell?
Are you texting on your phone right now?

Speaker 3 (47:10):
No, I'm not. I'm chilling. I'm playing with my little
little stream.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Just a man.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Darrell is just if you guys ever see Darrell in
the streets, he's a laugh and a half and also
a mess all at the same time. That is, yes,
he is literally a laugh nap. Okay, So you guys win,
you're coming back into the house. Is there anyone that
you guys are targeting at this point?

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Be honest, don't lie.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
I'm trying to think the best scenario for US is
if like USA was the win and USA was the lose. Yeah,
that's the only scenario that we could actually probably make
something happen.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
What do you mean explain that?

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Like you because you lose numbers.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
So if you win, if your ally wins and then
one of your allies losers, you.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Know, they get your voting numbers.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah, happened the Heights one.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
So if Jody and Benji didn't lose and didn't get last,
we would have it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
So that's all I'm hoping for.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Like maybe if one of the USA wins and then
maybe like a Jordan loses or whatever, and then maybe
hopefully Troy Casey and uh yes and Emily would work
with us, you know what i mean?

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah, what other two teams would you want to see
with you in a final?

Speaker 4 (48:27):
Definitely Danny and Tory and THEO and Sarah.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Why is that?

Speaker 4 (48:33):
Well, because you know it's harder to move with big bodies. Okay,
you know, it's like a mac truck. You know, you
don't want to see it head up, you know, But
if you're going, if you're going to La and you
know in my speed I drive, which is you know,
I think I'd be all right on that one because
we on foot, so those big bodies are harder to move,

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I think as.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
Well though, with the team dynamics. Touching on what Geroda said,
I think THEO and Sarah don't have that team dynamic
relationship that Darrell and I have. And also Tory and
Dunny fight about anything like it's eye was blue, Tory
would say, no, it's green, like.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
The couple's therapy. Yeah, they are.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
They are just I mean, they need a moderator, they
need some of Durell's couple's wisdom, they need a lot
of things. Although it's working, their dysfunction is working to
their advantage, but I really feel like it's they're falling upwards,
you know what I mean, Like it's sort of an accident,
Like it's not graceful. It's just happening to work out

(49:31):
in their favor, which is really good. Yeah, so so
much good stuff, and I can't wait to continue to
watch this season. Is there anything you can tease without
just giving away anything that we should like keep our
eye out for or a moment, Oh look, that's it.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
Next next you see me get a notice gleade Darrell,
remember that, Remember.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
He lied to me.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
I'm like dreading. He's like, now, mamma, you're good. I'm
like I can.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Because site and collective.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Yeah, told I had a nose bleed. I had an
asked for attacking a nosebleed while swimming, and I thought
I was going to die. And I'm a strong singer,
so it was pretty scary.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
All right, Well, I look forward to not you feeling
like you're gonna die, Kiki, but I look forward to
seeing this moment, and I hope that they show us
Durrell lyne to you when you ask about a nosebleed.
For those who just can't wait until next week's episode.
But they want to keep up with you guys and
what you're doing. Where can they find you on social media?

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Kiki?

Speaker 5 (50:31):
They can find me on Instagram. It's Keky Morris and
yeah that's basically all I'm on. So drop me a line.
I try and chat with every single person that sends
me a message. So say hello and I'll say hi back.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
And what about you, d money?

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Oh man? What's my Instagram handle?

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Four pound tailor or something? Isn't it.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
Yeah, there's there's underscores and all this.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah long.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Underscore LB for LB fitness.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
There you go, I was close.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
You'll see a pair of cat on my arm. There
you go.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
All right, that's looking real deep into that, but yes,
there you will. You will see the two. You guys
are such a joy, Kiki, really so great having you
a part of the challenge.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Family.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Love watching you and so glad you're here. And Darrell,
you're always fun, I mean special.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
He is a special one. Well, thank you, guys. Yeah,
he's so special.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
That that he disconnected, But thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Kiki.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Can't wait to continue watching you guys, and hope to
see you at the top.

Speaker 5 (51:32):
So much amazing.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Bye.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
You know what we said goodbye with out here?

Speaker 2 (51:39):
We did.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
He was complimenting me and I just hung up on you. Well,
thank you, thank you so much. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
You're welcome, Durell.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
I tried to end it, but I hit the wrong button,
you know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah, you only prove my point. It was great, it
was it was perfect timing. It was perfect timing. Well,
thank you guys, have a wonderful weekend.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
Joy guys, bye, Kiki, I'm gonna call you so hi, bye,
bye bye.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
I told you it was gonna be a good interview,
did I lie? YESSI. I don't think a lot. I
told you. Just listen.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I loved having them on, so glad that they were here.
I hope you guys enjoyed it too. Kiki and Durrell
are such a great team, and I don't know about you.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
I think they have what it takes.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
To make it to the find, Like Kiki is just
proving to be kind of a fearless badass, and it
seems like they're really ironing out their communication.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
I think they're a team to watch. You know where
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Speaker 1 (53:33):
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You already heard next week apparently Kiki get to nose
bleed and some other stuff.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
You gotta check it out.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
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Speaker 2 (54:01):
I don't have a line for this, but just pretend
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