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January 28, 2022 28 mins

What would we say to someone 300 years from now? Carla Marie explains why she isn't a "Crazy cat lady". Getting rid of all of your stuff and cleaning your space is SO good for your mental health!


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, sometimes I think we actually put too much
um energy and effort into this podcast. Car, Okay, let
me explain. So I'm sure you've heard of Jon Stewart.
I've heard the guy kind of put the Daily Show
on the map. So I was listening to a podcast

(00:21):
that he does. Apparently he's got an Apple Plus show
which I have not checked out yet, but he had
Mark Cuban on the podcast version of his Apple Plus show,
if that makes any sense. And when he starts the podcast,
it literally sounds like he is in a random like
a hospital hallway, just talking into a zoom camera. When

(00:43):
I listened, I was like, start, I expect more from you, sir.
And it's a great podcast, that's the And so this
is what this is the point I was gonna get to.
If all of these people and there's a couple of
podcasts of really like influential people who have listened to
and you can tell that it's really just some podcast
producer like recording them on a zoom call basically and

(01:05):
then pulling that audio putting it on the internet somewhere.
But John Steward wasn't using a microphone either, like he
was just talking into his computer no good. So so
maybe we should just like strip it down a little bit,
you know, like, we have beautiful professional microphones, we have
soundproofing up on our on your spare bedroom wall. We're

(01:25):
recording into an actual audio system. We have this six
seven machine next to us that just to plug our
microphones into. So stupid. What are we doing with? Steward
just opens up zoom and he's like, well, I'm John Stewart. Yeah. Well,
I mean I guess when you're John Steward you can
do that. Yeah. I guess if you are big enough
to not care, then that's that's the thing. So maybe

(01:47):
we've just got to get big enough to not care. Okay,
one day, car one day, one day, let's get that
intro though. Hey, this is hello guys. This is nico
Anvince right here. Hi, this is I'm Lily Allen. Hey,
it's Charlie Yala, and you're listening to Carlin, Marie and Anthony.
It's my day Friday. It's my day Friday. It's my

(02:09):
day Friday, Friday, Friday. It's my dayes. Well, thank you
for hanging out with us on your Friday or whenever
you happen to be listening to this. I know that
there's a lot of people that are, you know, listening
to old episodes right now. That's like the trend this year.
All the kids are doing it. But thank you for

(02:29):
hanging out with us. If you are listening to this
on January, the day that we posted, just know that
we appreciate you hanging out with us. And if you can,
it would be fantastic if you can click the link
in the description that takes you to our Twitch channel
and hit the follow button there, or maybe YouTube if
you prefer YouTube, that's there as well. Um, who knows,

(02:51):
Maybe you for listening to this in like seventeen years
and none of this like nothing works, maybe exists. Maybe
it's found like a phone in this apocalyptic world on
the ground that had some of these downloaded in like
one percent of juice left, and this is what you found.
That would be unfortunate. What would you want to tell
that person right now? Car think and let's not go
seventeen years. I want to go for a time when

(03:13):
I am no longer said seventeen years down the road
I did? I think you did. Let's let's go three
hundred years, right. I want to make sure that I'm
good and dead. I don't want to kill myself preemptively
in this this weird hypothetical narrative. So three years from now,
is that situation that you played out like I am legend? Yeah,

(03:33):
what would you hope that you can tell that person
because who knows? That person might now be the person
that has to like populate the whole world, or that
person could could have been alive now. Also, like we
don't know what technology happened right, Like they could be
three hundred years old. I don't know. I've actually this
is well. I would tell you about a time when

(03:55):
the two of us were the coolest people in the world.
I don't lie to them. Why what is the truth
you would tell to the future. I apologize because everyone
now is a big fucking idiot. You may not even
know what fucking idiot means. People are dumb, stupid, and
that is why the world ended. Okay, I am sorry.

(04:16):
Is what I would like to tell you. That's what
you know what? That's good? Yeah? I like that. I'm sorry.
I know that does nothing for you right now. You
might have a zombie bie. I'm like, just stay away
from people. They suck. I'll tell you what if I
was down there, if I was this person listening the
last person I don't want to message from Miss Carla Mury.
You gave like eighteen messages. Yeah, well I don't have

(04:37):
much time todo. Their phone is dying. Just give us.
I'm sorry, but I want to explain why, Anthony. Well
you know what, Carlin Marie, and this is why the
world got that way because you won't let me speak.
I think you speak just enough. I think, if anything,
you may speak more than is necessary. Do you ever
think about that, Miss Marie? What are you doing with

(05:00):
your are just adjusting and some volumes and things. I
think it's funny that when we started this podcast, we
were in his studio and like getting ready to rip
shots and we were screaming and like yeah, all the things.
And now we're in spare bedroom made into a studio
with a candle. The lights are off, but there's also
mood lighting behind us, and on the TV that is

(05:21):
behind us, there is a serene Japanese house of some
sort or a sushi restaurant. So the video that's playing
and not that this really matters because you can't see it,
but it could be something that you play while you're
at work or working from home or whatever. I found
a video on YouTube called it was live at the time,
called Japanese Lo Fi Focus, So you can google those

(05:44):
words and hopefully this comes up. And I've I've come
to a I've come to the point in my life
where I've realized, whatever space I'm in, I'm just gonna
make it the best space for me. Hey, Bobby Burke says,
to do that, we need to watch the season Queer.
I I've been bawling in my room every night. Yellow.
That sounds like a terrible you. I think you need

(06:05):
to watch because I want you to feel something about
people who change their lives. What I think I'm gonna
put you on on the show? What do I have
to change? Hold on, let's go. We're too far down
a branch. Yes, you need. He talks about like organizing
your space, and your space should make you feel good.
You shouldn't have clutter works and have clutter in your mind.
Your space should look good and represent who you are.

(06:27):
And I think we've actually done that very well in
the living room right now. Day by day it's getting
a little bit better. And I've decided, like when I
come to do work now, I said, up, it's not
like I'm just coming in to do work in the studio.
I make sure that you know the lighting. Um, I
don't use the overhead light because it's a little like
lights are sorry if you use this, but it's four peasants.

(06:48):
We use them, use them. But like people in the
design world are like, no overhead lighting. Okay, so we
need to figure out how to fix it. But we've
got this like flat screen on the wall that I
put YouTube videos on of like natural like nature scenes
and focus things, fireplaces, fireplace things to make me feel

(07:08):
good that the lights usually go along with it in
some capacity. Um, I usually have a candle next to me,
you know, I'm trying to make a space where it
just because I'm doing work doesn't mean I've got to
be miserable not healthy to be sitting that close to
a candle breathing it in. Well, there's not a lot.
Well that's the next thing we've got to put in here.
Then a space to place the candle right, maybe maybe

(07:29):
a little hagging lantern. If I had a bird cage
still I could have put the There is a woman
and what are they called or ornithologists now that's a
study of birds. She's an aviary Asian. She's a pilot.
She's a pilot taking her birds and air. If you
don't know about the bird cage, I don't know how.

(07:50):
I don't know when we may have talked about this,
But I went to a a consignment store here in
Seattle when I first moved. It was actually one of
the first pieces of like I guess you would call
it furniture or home decor that I had in my
first ever apartment by myself. And why you're not in
charge of buying decor. It was so cool. The people

(08:12):
who people with with taste appreciate it. Carl making weird.
It was a bird cage. It was an antique bird cage.
Like I had a pole and it like swung on
a pole. It's what like you would imagine tweety bird
from thee with, but it was on a base that
hung in like the middle of a room, basically in
the corner of the room. So I put it there,

(08:34):
and then I got silver and gold tone candles and
put them in there, and it was so cool it
looked when I when I lit that thing, and I
could watch Game of Thrones. Yeah, and then I would
let the wax kind of go into like the bottom part. Yeah. Ye,
well I just peeled the wax off. But the I

(08:56):
didn't like clean up the melted wax, so it looked
a little like even more antique, you know what I mean.
But like people in ancient times didn't have bird cages
with candles, no, but they had they had candles that
were hanging around all over the place. I wasn't gonna
hang it from my ceiling. I'll tell you what. I
think that was the best decision in that apartment, because

(09:17):
like I'm not I'm not imagine doing that now. The
cats would be on fire. Um, I think they'd be fine. No, Um,
I you know what I dread. I think about like
one day we're going to move out of this house,
Like We're not going to live in this house forever.
I'm not even saying like, hey, maybe we buy a
house and somewhere else in Washington, Like it's not, hey,
we're gonna leave Seattle. The thought of moving into a

(09:39):
new place, not only putting things in boxes, but taking
them out of boxes, not only unpacking your essentials, but
then like redecorating. No, but this goes to one of
the other principles that I like to live by, other
than making your space your own. Just get rid of everything.
Get rid of it. If you're looking at it right now, okay,
and it's like bothering you, get rid of it looking

(10:00):
at you, and get rid of me. Just get rid
of it. And we actually carlon Maina. When I first
moved in here, we decided to get a storage unit. Um,
I know this is thrilling, like my day Friday party
stuff we're talking about here, But we got a storage unit,
right and it was a pretty quick move. So I
threw a bunch of stuff in storage and I'll come
back to it later. I have a whole box still

(10:22):
of clothing that I have not seen since November of
instead of getting rid of that, why don't you like
do a little hey, I should wear these again and
switch them out. Well, what I'll do is I'm gonna
bring that box here at some point, or bring the
contents of the box here. I'm gonna go through it
one last time because there anything that I would like

(10:42):
to add to my wardrobe. Since I've been getting things,
I've been clearing things out of the clothes that I
do have at home. And then within a week, with
an under a week, I'm going to decide keep or go.
And it's never going back to storage. I'm either going
to find room for it in my actual living situation
or it is at a donation place or something like that.

(11:03):
That's it. I'm doing that now. Actually with books again,
we are raging here on Monday Friday, but I have
I had a box of books then I again have
not seen since do you read books? And we actually
had a friend over who said, you're never going to
reread a book. I don't know if I believe that.
There's a handful that I would keep, because I really
did enjoy them, but most of them. I want to

(11:25):
just start posting a book a day that I don't
want anymore. Maybe I've read it, maybe I just sided.
I'm never gonna get to it. Oh, it's like super
cheap to mow books. It's you got to tell them
it's media now. So what I'll do is I will
I'll post a book a day. Maybe I'll even start
this next week, which would be January two. If you're
listening down the road, if you're in the future, if
you're if you're in the future, maybe I'll just post

(11:46):
it like every day next week and whoever responds first
and says I would like to I would like this
book as long as you venmo me for the shipping,
it's yours. Cann with that, that could be a nice
little book club. And I'll leave a little note. What
is our friend Erica from Almost on their podcast? She
has her her instagram called was it Chummy Reads? You
should do a little collab with them. Actually, this is

(12:08):
this is actually a good transition to some more fun things,
not storage containers, cleaning and books and hold the clothes.
I'm going down to l A like right now as
you're listening to this, I am on my way to
Los Angeles, and I will hopefully see Erica. Oh maybe
as early as tonight, although tonight might be a family
dinner thing. I'm not sure yet. You should bring Erica

(12:30):
to the family dinner. I think that would help her
understand you. She would be more than welcome. I want
her to go to that so bad, I'll invite her.
What if your family is like Anthony, we want you
to be with Erica and not Carla Murray, then you
know the family spoken. You know you should have been
better this is this is actually your fault, not anyone else's.

(12:51):
You know, that's so rude to say what you should
have been better? Yeah to them, not to me. You know,
maybe you just didn't impact my family enough yet. I
don't know. Erica comes in Erica listen, bubbly personality when
she's you could also say, like something really freaking weird
you have I has your family said that? No? No,

(13:12):
are you lying to me? No, because my family has
also known you. They've heard me. I've said real weird
things with podcasts exactly. So I don't think anything you
have said or would say in front of my family
is necessarily ever a surprise, you know, like I was
gonna I was gonna say because whether and I think
your family feels probably the same way about me. They

(13:32):
got to know you with no like mask on, you
know what I mean? Like that it wasn't like that,
Oh I've got to be proper because I'm in front
of this person's family. Yeah, that's what's like so awkward now,
like being around your family. One of your aunts on
Christmas was like asking me things that like they knew
about me through my soul study, and I was like,
what else that see It was probably about the cats.
Was it was. She couldn't believe how many cats I had,

(13:54):
because like, you're a crazy cat lady. And yeah, she
talked to me about your cats too, she said, foest
way too many. Well what would she like me to do?
I don't know. And she's been a Monday Friday Facebook supporter,
wouldn't even have them. But so does she think I'm
like some crazy cat lady and I'm gross, yes, but
but hold on what everyone thinks that? Okay? And I

(14:18):
have I talked about this on here. My sister was like, yeah,
everyone asked me if your house stinks, and I'm like,
tell everyone their butthole stinks. It's a weird response. You
could have just said no, it doesn't. And every time
I have friends over, I don't even ask them at first.
They'll be like, it's so crazy. It doesn't smell in here,
like you would never think you have. I don't understand

(14:39):
what what do normal cat people do? Just like let
on the couch cats have? Cats are very much this.
People turn their nose up at them forever in society
because they're looked at as like there's just strays, right,
there's so many of them. They're straights. Egyptians like prey
to cat, yes, but not like in America. Okay, so
they're straight, or they're growth, or they're not friendly, right,

(15:02):
Like you can't have a cat as a pet because
it's not friendly like a dog. That's entirely not true. Okay, okay,
I mean you know that your cat. You have a
cat that lays on you every night. So people hate cats, right,
then there's well, the thought behind cats is that women
who can't be with men adopt cats, and that's why

(15:23):
they're crazy. Cat ladies are old. They like lock themselves
up with these cats. And these women that have thirty
cats together, their house stinks because you can't stay on
top of thirty cats. I think a thirty dogs. But
cat p I think smells the worst out of like
any animal. I don't know if I've ever really smelled cat.
When you clean a litter box, you do and you
don't really do that. I have, I mean I had,

(15:45):
I had foster kittens that I cleaned up in male
cat pe smells I believe even worse. And if cats
p on the rug you can like that, getting that
smell out is like horrendous. So no I have a
literal bot now, but even then, I clean the litter
box more than once a day, but the little robot
cleans immediately, so it doesn't stink. If you stick your

(16:07):
face in there, yeah it's going to stink. But kids
smell like garbage like they they're like sticky and stinky,
like my cats cleaning themselves more than people's kids clean themselves. Also,
I would like to go back to my comment about
Egyptians praying to cats. I don't know if that's actually true,
but I do know they revered cats more so, I'm
not trying to offend any ancient Egyptians who are listening

(16:28):
at the moment. We're current Egyptians. I don't I don't
want to say things that I don't know. Well, you
can say, you can say I don't know if this
is true, or say whatever. I thought that like when
pharaoh's died, their cats were also like kind of put
to sleep with them. I believe that is true. I
also like humans were left down there, m like they
had a guard. There were humans that were also sometimes

(16:50):
left down there. And it was like telling me when
when a pharaoh died, it was like almost as far
as they killed people to to be like buried alongside
and as a spiritual guard. All right, that is not
how you're like made it talent. They just left a

(17:10):
human alive down there to walk around until for eternity.
How did he eat? Well, you know what, we'll come
back to. I'll have a whole book report for you
next Moday Friday. Like Pharaoh's so cool. Actually that's what
I'm going to be for Halloween next year. It makes sense.
It does, except there's like a lot of I mean,
I guess did they do bad things? Yes, all ancient

(17:32):
emperors and rulers basically a lot. And they made them
build the pyramids, right, Yeah, there was all of that stuff.
Maybe not listen, if you're trying to be an emperor,
probably a pretty good set of guidelines to follow. If
you're trying to be a decent person, probably not those
guidelines to follow. So maby, I'm going to ask my
Egyptian friends some questions about what emperor i' mean not empers.

(17:57):
Sorry you can also just read. But would be like
them coming to me and be like, hey, I have
questions about like belt buckles and hats. I got nothing
for you. Do you ever wonder because I watch a
lot of shows that are set in the past, and

(18:18):
I always wonder how bad everyone smelled. It had to
be like before, similar to what people think my house
smells like, but it had to be pretty bad, right
like if you went to France in like before the revolution,
it's just a bunch of sweating people in a lot
of clothing, Yeah, and wool like they wore like woolf

(18:41):
they were wearing under arms or did they get to
a point where like they didn't stink anymore because the body, No,
they probably didn't notice, Like they probably didn't think they
all smelled really bad. We're all just like a bunch
of food food now today if we were, but they
might think we smell bad now with like I don't know,
maybe they're not a fan. Maybe the spray pheromones. That's

(19:03):
how people like that was a thing? I bet did
you just throw it out a word so like I
could smell all your sweat and I'm attracted to that
now I'm not saying that I'm not please tower No,
but like then, I bet that was a thing, Like
when did people like I can't there's no wify in
this also why perfumes were so big, But when did

(19:26):
it start? No, perfumers are like ancient, and I think
part of that is because people smelled so bad all
the time. Like when did perfume start? When did perfume
come out as a google? Oh? No, seventies. The first
modern perfume made of scented oils blended in an alcohol
solution was made in thirteen seventy at the command of

(19:49):
BC or a D. It doesn't say so, then we're
gonna assume a D. We assume Jesus never saw a
bottle of perfuming life. Queen Well, No, Queen Elizabeth of Hungry,
Huh do you say hungry or hungary? I think you
just say hungry hungary? Was I saying that the day

(20:10):
and you were like, stop saying it like that. You
were saying, I don't remember. We're not gonna We're gonna
say on this long. If it comes back to you,
we'll get to it at the end of the podcast.
Synthesis Phaomones photo synthesis. It's like lame myrtle faces of
the Sun. You ruined photogenic. You're ruining it. Why, I'm

(20:36):
just trying to pH words. There's a lot of them.
Phone It's ridiculous, but I will be down in l
A this weekend, so I'm looking I actually was thinking
I might have to take a microphone down with me.
Why on the off chance that a flight gets delayed
or the off chance it's it's a good it's good
practice for us to make sure that we're still able
to get on. But the other part of it, Carl

(20:59):
Maury is I realized because I booked this flight kind
of like quickly. I booked my flight during one of
the NFL games. So what do you need a microphone? Well,
I might need to stay in l A so I
can watch all of the games. Stop, stop, you're not
going to come back. You can watch them on the airplane.

(21:19):
I don't know. You don't even like football like that,
that's not true. You it is your least favorite hockey?
Then football, Baseball's number one, Basketball's number one, just to
watch baseball, basketball, NBA? Basketball's number one? Then college hoopstage
can I guess college hoops? That's different? Actually, let me

(21:42):
go back. So if I'm ranking them as I don't know, Okay,
so what you think my first one is? Okay, favorite
to watch is college hoops NBA? Then why were you
going to change it? So well because number two football.
College football is number two, then college hoops, then baseball,
then football, then hockey. So it's tough to tell you

(22:03):
why it's tough for that that fourth spot. I guess
so NBA is easy, that's my number one. I can
watch any NBA game and do that and being excited
about it. College football, I can watch almost any college
football game and be entertained. College basketball, same thing. I mean,
you know, I like college basketball. If I can watch
a Rutgers game just for the hell of it, like
I'll put Rutgers Maryland on sometimes, oh sometimes, like they

(22:27):
played recently, and thankfully Rutgers lost that game because Hall
has been having a real I can't go to play
seat Hall and the Brackett and win. Maybe it could have.
It could happen. Um, So those are the top three.
Number four. This is where it gets tricky because I'm
a big Yankees fan, and I love watching Yankees games,
but I don't love watching other Major League Baseball. Guy

(22:51):
a great like I don't watch unless it's the World Series,
but I love watching the Yankees. It's like, Mike, It's
truly You've have this Japanese place playing in the team here, like,
I would much rather just have baseball on in the
background with the sound on, which makes it boring. I
guess why, because it's not background. Yeah. Um so I
think i'd have to put in the love it as

(23:11):
an overarching like you're gonna put any game on and
I have to sit down and watch it. The NFL
probably out ranks Major League Baseball by sound. What's your favorite?
By sound? Baseball number one for me. But Baseball there's
a there's like a nostalgic feeling, like if I listened
to John Sterling and Susie and Susan Waldman do a
Yankee game to me, that feels it feels like the summer,

(23:36):
And I think the feeling is why I like it
so much. Here's also agreed that is my reasoning. But
also there's no whistles or squeaky sneakers basketball bottom bottom
sound the sneakers are. They have to fix that. You
would think by now that Nike or Adidas would be like,
let's make shoes that don't squeak. I don't know if

(23:56):
that's even possible. Come on, it's rubber on hardwood. When
you stop quickly, that's the sound it makes. Football it's
just like everyone's yelling and banging. It's annoying. Bottom of
the list for me, Hockey. I like the sound of
the skates on that. It's a smoother sound. I'll give
you that. I like that. What else is left? That's it?
Soccer and baseball? Soccer? Baseball, soccer is cool. I don't

(24:17):
know what I watched soccer on TV. I've definitely watched
soccer games. I've watched games, definitely the World's Cup obviously,
but that's a lot of screaming. It's screaming when they score.
No World Cup. I've been to a game. It's load.
You've been to a World Cup game. It wasn't World Cup.
It was Spain first Argentina, and it was at um

(24:40):
Grant Stadium when it was friendly, which is like the
complete opposite. It was so bad. Everyone quit after I
worked there. I worked on the team. You're the worst.
I was a security guard. Okay, so we're gonna start
the story over, because at first it sounded like you
went as a fan and then you said everyone quit,
and I had no idea who you were talking about.
I thought the player quit after the game, and you

(25:02):
originally said it was a World Cup game. I quit
after Summer jam. I made it through that. Okay, back up,
how and why were you at this? Uh? The soccer game.
I was security, not really security, like a ticket checker
for Giant Stadium. I had to wear the pants up
to my boobs and I was like one of those
things where you pick up your uniform when you get

(25:22):
there and you turn in, they dry clean it. So
Carla Marie, little baby, Carla Marine, little infant, infant, working class,
Carla Marine is going so Giant Stadium at the time.
Dad got me the job. And you have to work
a soccer game, which if it's you said Spain and
Argentina believe that's what it was. It sounds to me,

(25:42):
if they're both playing here, that it was most likely
a friendly. It was bad, so the game means absolutely nothing.
They warned us. They said, if you can make it
past the first three events, will be good for the
rest of the year. What were those three events? I
just know I don't remember the third. It was Spain
vers Argentina in summer jam and I saw wait, too
many people getting taken out, and after he said summer
jam And, I said, peace out, cub Scouts, and you
were done. You quit my back here too bad too.

(26:04):
I couldn't do a little infant Carlamura with her back pain. Okay,
so now let's go back to the Spain Argentina games.
People were just I couldn't even keep them in there.
I was like, please say in your rown. I thought
you were checking tickets and I had to make sure
that their spots were you refereeing this game too? How
many jobs that you haven't How many jobs did a
little baby infant Carlamura has a giant stadium? It was

(26:27):
her back pain, it was it was so much. I
couldn't do it. So what so you didn't like the crowd?
Then at the game, people were just wild screaming. We've
been talking though about watching on TV. I barely remember too,
So we were talking about watching things on TV, and
you said, I'm going to just talk about my physical
experience as a little baby employee at giant stadium. Yeah,

(26:51):
it's loud and soccer games. Okay, have you watched one?
Had to wear ear plugs? You know what? I think
before we have people put in ear plugs as they're
listening to this podcast, I think we can end it here.
Make sure that you don't have a little baby with
back pain that has to work at Giants Stadium for

(27:12):
for an international soccer friendly, because apparently it's not a
good experience, so keep those babies at home. So I
was like the youngest person working. Everyone so mean to me,
like do they give you a swirlie? They were like
just not nice because I was just like the young
And then like in the training someone mentioned something about
knowing my dad and I was like, everyone's gonna know spoiled,

(27:34):
like no offense. It wasn't like I was the kid
that's got the internship with the CEO on Wall Street.
I was literally working to doing tickets at Giant Stadium.
I wasn't taken away from anyone else's career. There's one person.
There's someone who didn't get the job. They got it
after I quit. Thank god. We have a lot of
really cool things on the horizon. The best way you

(27:55):
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If I had to rank them in importance, the newsletter
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(28:17):
Make sure that you have have access to our newsletter,
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Right or promotion. You could have done anything in the
world with the last thirty or so minutes, but for
some reason you listened to little baby infant back, broken back.

(28:43):
That could have gone in a different direction, broken spine.
Carla Murray work a international friendly Thank you, look you
look great? What was the word
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