Rewind with Karen & Georgia - 70: Live at the Moontower Comedy Festival - My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hello, and welcome to Rewind with Karen and Georgia.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Every Wednesday, we recap our old shows with all new commentary,
insights and updates. And this week we are giving probably
the best kind of update we could possibly give.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
That's freakin' right. The yogurt shop murders have finally been solved.
So we're going to recap episode seventy, which we named
live at the Moontower Comedy Festival, and this was recorded
in Austin, Texas.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
So amazing. This episode came out on May twenty fifth,
twenty seventeen.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
All right, let's get into it. I can't wait to
talk about this. Let's listen to the intro of episode seventy.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Hi said, oh my god, me too.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Just do that for a little longer. I'm trying to
finish my mint.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
You don't mind, they love it. They love it. Spit
it over there.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
What's up, Texas? Or mind me here?

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I wore my cowboy boots for you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, take a up walk those things around.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Ben said, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
They're not learning.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Scared, then said that they're culturally appropriating, culturally robrating.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
You're this is definitely a problematic way.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
To start the show for sure is and I also
wore my hair closer to god. I guess that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, they love that. See I know how to panda?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, what about what are you wearing tonight?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I'm wearing a dress that's a little too tight and
so it's got I've got like a reverse bank situation
where kind of like you can't tell if it's a
big stomach or a flop of material, and neither can I.
I'm not sure what's happening down here, and I don't
care anymore. Show everyone you're fancy next. I really wanted

(02:45):
to put my microphone next to that microphone. Do you
know how much the sound guy would hate me if
I did that?

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Just like what do you think? Oh, no, so obnoxious?
This place is haunted. I heard Stephen. Is that Stephen
sent us this long text that I got off to,
Like we got off the plane and it was like
it was like the fat like the history of this.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Place, and you were all the ghosts. There's a project
there's a projectionist that works here. When this was a
movie theater and he died while showing Casablanca, which everyone
thinks is beautiful because he died doing what he loved.
I agree. I didn't mean to stay. I didn't mean
to say it like that. That sounded argumentative and bizarre,

(03:25):
so stupid you guys think that's nice. What you don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Is, OK, I was going to tell you on stage
that saving it for this.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
So Vince and I were on the airplane today and
I couldn't like like get into Wi Fi. So he
was like leaned over, as a husband will do, and
it was like, let me figure this out. And so
he like figures all the stuff out and then he
goes to click on a website just to see if
it's working, and he pulls down my favorites page. But
you know, most people are like Facebook and Twitter and
like Craigslist or whatever the normal things are.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeh, and it was.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
And then he stares at it for a minute and
he goes, are these all serial killers?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
And I was just like yeah, yeah. And then we
moved on and that was a serial killers are my Google?
That's all given. Yeah. I had a kind of a
fascinating thing happened. First of all, I was the last
person on the plane.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Oh my god, you give me a panic attack.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's I know, it's uh that's how different George and
I are. I was standing in secure the security line like, oh,
this sucks, and George's like text, text X, I'm on
the plane. Where are you? So? I walked right on
last Then a guy who looked like he was it

(04:47):
could have been I mean, he was on his way
to the city, but I was like, is he coming
to our festival? He was really big and had a
ton of tattoos and many on his neck. Yeah. My
friend used to call those the job stoppers. Just something
to consider. But these guys look like they look like

(05:08):
they were at a band of Like it could have
been Lincoln Park. I'm not sure. I'm really old. I'm
incredibly old.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
And he didn't have like tattoos that are like oh,
he's like he just like pays a lot of money
gets tattooed, like they look like prison tattoos.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
They look like defensive maneuvers, the way a cuddle fish
changes into a different thing in the ocean of like
don't get me. Yeah, he's really like, beware of me.
I'm very scary. Well, he stands up and he's like,
I gotta get off this plane, and he fucking takes off.
He had to go. He couldn't handle flying the plane.

(05:43):
He was panicking.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, I know, that's sweet.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
You should have cradled him the whole flight. Could you
come down here a second. You're gonna love this. I'll
hold your ham. I know it's a weird time for you,
and it's probably very shaming to be a very large,
mean looking man that's literally like, give me off this
plane right now.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Best to buy a panic attack. Yeah, I love a bummer.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I mean I've I've had it. I've had an on
a plane. I've actually had a seizure on a plane.
No bag, no bro, No, it's pretty cool. I was
I had been bumped up to first class because they
screwed up my ticket and I was flying home from
England and I was sitting next to I was sitting

(06:28):
next to this man who was like he was like
a silver fox, and he had like really expensive clothes
on from what I could tell, like not Target, and
it's like I wanted to touch it. And he was
like kind of being charming and talking to me. And
I had the thought on my head of like why
can't I have a sugar daddy? Why can't I be
one of those girls? I would be the I would

(06:51):
be the best kind because you wouldn't see it coming.
It'd be like, oh, is that your assistant, and be like, yeah,
that's my assistant. I had this this whole fantasy in
my mind of how we were going to do it,
but then I had a seizure, and that's the worst
possible It was. Then yeah, not cool, Like it's not

(07:15):
how you want a guy to see you foaming at
the mouth with blue lips. The last thing I heard
was him, go, excuse me, I think this young lady
needs help, Like he was already. It's like we were
no longer even close anymore. He was immediately distancing himself
from me just because I was having a seizure, like
a common drug addict on a plane. That's oh ooh,

(07:39):
that makes me. That's scary. I know. Sorry, I just
dug that one up from deep deep down inside.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I've only died in the normal throwing up thing on
a plane before. Like everyone here has probably right, Nope.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Well I think they have some questions like I do.
Was it in the aisle or in the bathroom? No?

Speaker 1 (07:59):
No, no, it was a receptacle like not where in
your lap?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Though?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Uh I don't, yeah, say yes, Oh, what into one
of them bags? Yeah, for you use a barf bag
of place? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Are you from nineteen fifty five? This is amazing.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, that happened, that's.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
What therefore though, right, No, totally sorry, the tone is wrong.
I'm a little nervous, so everything I'm saying isn't how
I mean it. It's all coming out super weird. But
did you have to This is the question I've always
had because it's barf. I mean, it just comes out.
So do you like make your own thing at the
top so it doesn't come out the side?

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, hopefully it won't be like overflowing. You don't have
to grab your neighbors, right, But then they have like
it's like you're at like the grocery store getting vegetables
and it has that little like twist.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
No, it's like a bag of cookies from Trader Joe's
or something. Oh, I don't want to eat you solid once.
I'm just gonna wrap it down. But it is side.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
What a historic place to talk about barfing. Yes, it's
pretty beautiful. This is the most beautiful place I've ever
talked about barfing before.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Now I want to see you do it myself. I
have to say. I'll let you know next time it's
something going on this tour, I want to see it.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Okay, I've had red wat too much red wine, you know,
ooh sort of thing that.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Would be a bad one. I know, because that's going
to stain me as well as you. Wow.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, this is clearly my favorite murder.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Hi, Yeah, I'm a little nervous about this show.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I don't know why, because Austin's cool people also school people.
You know that it's comedy people. It's very important. Yeah,
it's also Texas. You guys have been showing up for
this podcast since day one, like big time. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I feel like when we were in New York and
I was like this is big get the weekend. I know,
the same way where it's like, oh my god, don't
make them hate you on this a moment where it's
all click click click. I saw him live. That was it.
I got it out of my system. Oh no, it
happens sometimes. Yeah, we'll think of something else, we'll make
croissants or something. It'll be fine, we'll be fine. Oh

(10:21):
we got cookies backstage too. Oh yeah, thanks for the cookies. Yeah,
they're so pretty. We love them, No, should be very
good stage. Somebody with who clearly studied theater was like,
you're welcome.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I used my diaphragm project your voice.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
There you go, there you go. Do you know you
want to know a trick about song performance? Yes, this
is one of the only things I learned in college,
and because I took a class it was stage performance
for musical theater singing stage performance, they got the musical
theater crowd. I heard, what up, nerds. So you guys

(11:08):
already know this, So don't go get bored as I
tell you this. But as people in musical sing you
just always have your arm going in a different direction.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Oh yeah, god.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
And the thing is if like, if you're going to
sing about the horizon, you don't point to the horizon.
You like sing about the horizon, but you point down there,
and then suddenly you're like, oh my god, I love that.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Is it because someone's gonna you point the horizon and
the people are going to be like.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Where's the horizon? Is there a horizon in here? Really
a horizon? Okay? So it's just really just kind of
go opposite of what you're talking about, and it creates
a bit of a cognitive dissonance in the mind, and
then the performance seems more important than it actually is
and you're not just singing about Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Wow, that's really great. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
I also need to learn how to sing and not
just hurt people's ears when I sing. But I'll do
it this while I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
It, just give it a whirl.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, will next time at karaoke.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Okay, is Stephen under here? No, Steven's at home watching
my cats, and he keeps sending me the cutest.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Photos, like really cute photos.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I feel like, if there's anyone that was ever born
to be a cat, it's Steven Ray Morris. Yeah. Like
if you don't know him, and maybe some of you don't,
or you're like, who's this guy, it's just if you
picture cats sitter in your mind just as fast as
you can.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's him at a mustache boom. It's so funny because
sometimes I get depressed when I'm on the like when
we're out touring, because I miss my cats and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Are they okay?

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I don't know if they're beating them and I wonder
if he misses.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Me, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, at the part I drink too much red wine
to forget it, but like knowing Steven's there, like I
barely thought about them. No, I'm just like, no, they're
actually they like him a little better than me. Yeah,
he and he loves them more. He loves them more
than I love you know. And he just just taking
so many selfies.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
With the cats.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
And I gave him my Instagram cat, my cat Instagram password. Whoa,
I'm just like, go crazy, dude, that's real commitment.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Get me some followers with the work at Steven work it.
Let's get it together. Yeah, let's hear it for Stephen
Ray Morris. He makes it. He makes it all happen.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
We recently got asked if we were really as mean
to him in real life as we are in the podcast.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
We are, but it doesn't matter because now he gets
anything that we get sent. They people send things to
Steven now too.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
So he's just he's on the bandwagon. I think the
dream is to start making enough money that Stephen not
only is able to come on tour with us, but
he is lowered down on a half moon at the
top of the show. Wouldn't that be good? Oh my god,
holding a live hairless cat.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Oh my God, immediately. That needs to happen to me.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, should we Sitch? Look at these nice seats. I
know these are some good young I think these are
kind of the nicest ones we've had in a while. Yeah,
it looked like so I'm gonna do this though last
time I really felt like something rated like NC seventeen
was happening. Oh no while I was on stage. So
I just like to do a little less of the
direct Like you didn't pay extra for those seats, did you?

(14:22):
You don't get to have that? Everyone look away real quick.
Oh there we go. These might be more form than function.
All right, how's that? Did you hear that? You can
make it fart far fee.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
So it feels a little unstable, like you know what
I mean, So one of us might fall.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Someone in the back that works hears crying. They're like
those are my good stools. I thought they would love them.
I'm just like, yeah, it's just a lo oh, this
is perfect. I'll sit like this, but three quarter and
then when I tell my murder, I'll just do this,

(15:05):
and I'll do that, and I'll do this, and then.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Then I'll do this, and I just want to even
like you the whole time.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
You're gonna share and stone this thing. I thought that's
what I thought, that's what you were doing. I didn't
mean to put you in a bad place.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
No, I mean no, I might as well.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, so I can't sing and you don't.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Want to see my underwear? Those are the two. Those
are my two rules.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, in life, you've got to have at least two rules.
When you go on stage and not showing people your
underwear should maybe should be in there if that's your thing.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Sure, probably if you're a podcaster, right right, Yeah, because man,
I don't spend enough money on laingerie because who cares?
Who's gonna target again? But mine from Target, not like
rich people.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I mean, look it works, Target works, and so we
work it. Yeah, I mean I need to get look,
I need to get eye drops, bananas and a brand
new coat. Where am I gonna go? I'm fucking going
to Target? Should we do our murders? You want to? Hey,

(16:12):
guys want to do murder? You want to hear? So
now I'm ready? Well, Karen, let me tell you what
to you? A murder? That was cool. It's like when
you get your haircut, so just you and you're like,
why though, why come back? Are you staying there? I

(16:37):
don't want to be EMPI sized? I was okay, yeah,
So how do we boo? Uh oh boom, yeah, part
where I break my own nose.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
We just got to a little You can tell I've
worked in an office for like ten years because I
know how to boot boop these chairs perfectly.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Oh you did it real subtle? What you mean you
did little booboo? Yeah boo? Nice good work. I'm new
to chairs. This is the listening arm. Yes, oh interesting.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
All right, we're back and right off the bat, we
have some info about the Paramount Theater actually being super
haunted and it being like a known thing.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I mean, how satisfying that eight years later we're actually
going to answer our own question on the same podcast.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
It's said to be haunted by three main spirits, each
with its own story. The most famous is Emily, the
woman in White, who is often described drifting across the
mezzanine in a flowing dress. Some legends say she's searching
for her long lost husband, though there's no solid records
of her existence.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Also, the second ghost is a man named Walter Norris,
who was a longtime projectionist who died of a heart
attack in the booth in the year two thousand, not
an old one, but a recent ghost, reportedly while he
was projecting Blank Out, and since them, theater staff have
claimed that his presence lingers, with stories of projection equipment
malfunctioning until offerings of candy or soda have been left

(18:10):
for him. Yes, I love that.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
The third spirit is known simply as the elderly gentleman
in the opera box. He's often spotted in the left
hand box seats, dressed in a top hat and tails,
sometimes accompanied by the smell of cigar smoke, before vanishing
into thin air. While his exact identity remains a mystery,
his presence is one of the most consistently reported at
the theater.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
So cool. I would like to be the lady in
the pile of popcorn. So somehow I die covered in popcorn,
warm popcorn, like a yellow lab in a pile of leaves.
That's me and popcorn. And then people look over and
it's like the popcorn lady.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
And also there's a in depth article from Reporting Texas
titled the Paramount Theater a Timeless Legacy and its Friendly Ghosts.
So you can check out more information from people who
work in the theater, recounting firsthand experiences. So we were
onto something.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
I mean, that's where Casper got his start The Friendliest
Ghost Arite.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
It is funny I said about being nervous because Austin
is full of cool cities. I get nervous when we
play in front of cooler comedy cities and there are
certain cities where I'm like, these people are more accepting
and chill.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Then let's say Austin.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
New York or Los Angeles, where I get really nervous
because they've seen a lot of shows and they're not like, yeah,
they're not as patient.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Or they're not as like there for the fun of
like haaha ha. From the moment we start, it feels yeah,
a little more pressure for me. Yeah. I mean what's
great about performing live is you can really project anything
you want onto the audience. So it's like true, anytime
I go below the Mason Dixon, they hate my guts
and you will see it. If that's your belief, right,
you will see it. No, you're right. I always see
what I want to see. Yeah, I mean everybody does.

(19:50):
That's kind of the That's why when we just did
the shows in Boston, the house lights were up the
whole time. It was such a challenge you could yell
at them to turn them down. I think it was
for cameras. Oh that's right, But I think I actually
talked about it where I'm just like, we can't be
staring into people's faces. Makes it so.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I mean, I'm glad I got to see that those
two girls way back there have hot dog costumes on.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
But you know, the hot dog girls are showing up
their lives pretty great. You know, It's really funny. There
was that gift somebody made of us because we got
interviewed not at that show backstage where they were shooting
from under and I remember going, you need to tell them,
like we need to get down on the same level
as that camera. Yeah, but of course it was at

(20:32):
the time where I'm like, no, don't make a problem,
and there's a gift that people reused forever. I shot
from Underneath. I know you hate it, but I think
we look really cute in it. I mean, okay, I
just you know, can we please think of the middle
aged women that are also in the picture.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
I mean, you know, I'm trying to learn that women
have necks and chin and skin there, and it's okay,
it's normal. I want if I'm going to be out
there in the world, I can be an example of
that being okay, rather than myself being so fucking horrified
of it every time I see it in a photo.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yes, well, because I think we've gotten to a place
culturally where people being comfortable with their bodies and being
comfortable with the way their bodies look brings people an
immense amount of relief.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
When I see someone with a neck like mine, I'm like, oh,
she looks great. I'm allowed to be like that.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
No, look at it. Karen's like, now I hate it. Well, also,
that's just it. It's like we find our spots, yes, and
then like me, someone who like I just got my
eyes done. I just am moving on to the next thing.
There's no restine, there's no rest for the minds like these.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
All right, this is one of my favorite quote, favorite
stories of all times that I cover.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
This is Georgia's story about the yogurt shop murders.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Okay, I'm first, right, you're first at this time. Yeah, okay,
right now, thank you?

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Right, Okay, I can see I don't want to oh,
oh oh, you just start reading mine. Stop it. Georgia
always knows that. Anytime her paper is a face up
near me backstage and I go and like anywhere new,
She'll go, don't beat it, and I'm like, I am blind.
I can't see anything with no glasses on. I just
love when it's a surprise.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
I don't know why. It's like, doesn't make a difference,
but I love it. It's our thing. It's our thing,
just like the underwear rule. It's ours, ours and ours alone.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
And one of the other reasons I'm nervous is because
this murder. Like when we knew we were coming to Austin, I,
like a baby brat, said I get this one, like
called it to Karen so hard and she was like,
go ahead. And then I took it on and I was.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Like, this is hard. Uh shit, you know what we Yeah? Wait,
is this the one you told me you weren't going
to do?

Speaker 1 (22:46):
I said I was going to do it, and then
I said, never mind, I'm not doing it, and then
I did it, And.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Now you're about to do it. I know I'm doing it. Okay.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
This is this is the yogurt shop right.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Now, We've got to figure out a way to explain
to people who like work here or might just be
passing through the room accidentally, what that moment is about. Yeah,
because it's not what it seems. It's not what it appears.

(23:20):
That's a good point. Yeah, whatever, we're worried about it.
It'll say, there may be cheering for murders, but it's
not that exactly that. It's not really that.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, but we don't okay, Yeah, whatever, not our problem.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
So in Austin, Texas the early nineties, it's still a
relatively small college town feel where violent crime was fairly rare,
and that all changed on December sixth, nineteen ninety one,
when thirteen year old Amy Ayres fifteen year old Sarah
Harrison when they went to I can't believe it's yogurt

(23:58):
in a strip mall.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
It's like a really unfortunate name. No listen. I wanted
to laugh too, but I'm a professional, so I didn't.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
But I heard a snicker and then I was like,
do we do that?

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well, there's a whole run of yogurt. We could just
visit this for one second. Yeah. Yeah. In nineties, in
the eighties and nineties, Frozen yogurt was like the penicillin
of America. It came so hard for us, and we
all bought it talk hundred percent. Were like in my mind,
I was like, well, this is this is a diet.

(24:33):
I'm going to eat this only it's yogurt. Yeah, and
this is and now I'm going to have like Joan
Hughes high school experience.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
I didn't turn out that way now, but I still let.
I would get carib chips on mine because oh, hippie,
you are a big hippie.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
You aren't a big hippie. But the name's also so
there was I can't believe it's not yogurt. It was,
I can't believe it's yogurt. I can't believe it's yogurt.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
I had one across there at my house called frog.
It's just like you just can't name it, like my
my frozen yogurt.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I worked in one in high school called how Sweet
it is Gotta But then it was almost like a
subtitle of we have yoga for You'd think that.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Since I love puns so much, i'd love like a
play on a name. But yes, you know, sometimes it's
it's got to be simple.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
There's also the country's best yogurt, which if it's a chain,
how can that be? But let's not argue right now.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Is it a franchise or no? Okay, I can't believe
it's yogurt in a strip mall off West Anderson Lane
to visit Sarah's seventeen year old sister Jennifer and their
friend Eliza Thomas, also seventeen, as they closed up the shop.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Around eleven pm.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Remember when you could just work at places by yourself
until eleven pm? Sure, just like hanging out closing shops
by yourself.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
I totally okay, I'm a sophomore. Of course I can
do this business, and I course I should all the
keys and work the safe. Totally.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, that's definitely something perfect sense. Well, so the girls
were gonna have a sleepover afterwards, so Amy and Sarah
came by to help cloat.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
What just that they're like closing a business and then
going to a sleepover. That should be the Hey, like
half of.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Them can't drive, yeah, and then they're so they're helping
to close up, which is so sweet.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
They're like, we'll help you mop so we can go
hang out sooner.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
And so so this was close to eleven PM when
Amy and Sarah showed up, and let's cut to midnight.
About an hour later, after the closes sign had been turned,
the front door was locked, and the man who owned
the shop next door called party House, spotted flames and
smoke and called the fire department. Let's see the first picture, please.

(26:44):
That's I can't believe it's yogurt. Exclamation work.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Fucked up right. I mean we really couldn't believe it
was yogurt at the time, and it just was tasted
so much like ice cream. It was like, am I
a dairy queen? This is it's insane. My life is
so much better now, and yogurt's healthy. I eat it
all the time. And you're a hippie, I mean all
these things.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
That's such a nineties crime scene photo. Yeah, it's like
such a bummer.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
It should have like the digital date down to the bottom,
like your mom took the picture with her camera. Oh
this is okay.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
I think what's so crazy about it is that this
is a really like almost suburban area and this like
the strip malls, and like it's pretty safe and you
don't normally see seventeen fire trucks at a spot, so
I think everyone knew something was up.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, okay, you can take that off. Thanks, burn it. Oh,
I didn't mean it like that. I didn't. Sorry, no, no,
that does not count against me this time. I did that.
Got that Stephen. That never happened in reality.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Sorry, okay, you can take it down, because I want
everyone staring at me and not that horrible photo.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Oh no, today's the days she turns into a diva.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I've been waiting till Austin don't really come out and
that's right all No, I love you all well, or.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
We can leave it up. As they worked to put
out the.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Flames, the building was of course trampled by many firefighters
because I thoughtought it was just a fire. And then
one of the firefighters went in the back door spotted
a human foot inside the back door of the storage room,
like sticking out. And then shortly after that they realized
what was going on. The bodies of Sarah, Jennifer, and
Eliza were all found together in the storage area.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
They'd all been stripped.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
This is they've all been stripped and two were bound
and three girls were shot in the back. And the
three girls were shot in the back of the heads
with twenty two calibers. Eliza and Sarah had been each other,
and Jennifer was lying next to them, possibly having been
moved by the high powered fire hoses that had wept
the scene. And then thirteen year old Amy was found

(29:10):
a few minutes later, lying alone. She was barely alive
and she was near the bathrooms. She had been initially
shot with the twenty two as well, but had survived
that and was shot again with a thirty eight, and
she died shortly after. Some of the girls had been raped,
but it would be years before DNA testing would become available,

(29:32):
so investigators concluded that the fire was set to cover
up the crime, and the culprits had drenched tyrophone cups
with lighter fluid and set them on fire.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
There was about five hundred.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
And forty dollars missing from the register, but investigators didn't
think the motive was robbery because there was also a
bank bag underneath the cash register and it had money
in it and nobody took it.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
So I've been reading the book Who Killed These Girls.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
By Beverly Lowry, which is a new book of symp
about this crime. It's really good, and don't read it
before you go to bed and so she says that
some of the shortcomings of the lesson experienced Austin PD.
They talk about that a lot fire and water damage,
the lack of mote of multiple victims, the amount of

(30:17):
people trapesing through the scene, all should have been handled
by investigators who had experience in these kind of crime scenes,
but they weren't because Austin at the time didn't have that.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Well, so when you think it's a fire, you're not
treating it like a crime scence. No, that's the exact
opposite of how you had treated crime scene.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Right, But as soon as that, like, as soon as
that happened, it should have been locked down. They should
have gotten someone in who was you know? But anyways, Yeah,
the bodies weren't swab for traces of an accelerant, the
bathrooms weren't dusted for fingerprints, the trust bags weren't comb through.
The metal shelves and mops that were next to the
girls when the fire started. Somehow ended up in the
alley and then they disappeared, most likely taken to the dump.

(30:57):
So that's what happened during the investigation. Daryl Croft, who
seems like a badass, He was a former cop who
ran a security company now and he had been in
the yogurt shop around ten o'clock that evening buying yogurt,
and while he was there, he told investigators that he
was approached by a man wearing a military fatigue style

(31:20):
jacket and he was telling the other customers to go
ahead of him for some reason, and he asked Daryl
if he was a cop because he saw his car
that had lights, the security lights on it. And when
he said no, he offered Daryl to go ahead of him,
and I think, like a normal text and man he
was like no, you know, like gruffs go ahead kind

(31:41):
of a thing. So then the man, so Daryl said
that when the man did go to the counter in
front of him, he ordered only a can of soda,
and then after he paid, he moved around the counter
and went to the back of the store. And when
Darryl asked where he'd gone, Eliza told him that she'd
allowed him to go to the back to use the bathroom,
so she didn't know him. Daryl hung around that for

(32:02):
a counter for a few minutes to see if the
man ever returned, but he didn't. He stayed in the
back and then Daryl said there was just something that
didn't feel right, and when the man just didn't return,
Daryl left the store. That was around ten pm. He's
got to have some guilt, you know.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
What I mean? What's it? Yeah, oh, I didn't know
what was what's everyone doing? There was a hubbub. Well also,
that's the thing of if he stays in the store
and now he's the weird guy in this totally. I mean,
but I think he knew them, the girls, Oh he did,
like small town he knew them even weirder.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Well, yeah, he also he went to the he knew
them for the gym, so that would be weird too. Yeah, yeah,
fair enough. There was also a couple, an older couple
that visited the store closer to closing time than Darryl
on the same night of the murders. They saw the
two men. They saw two men sitting in a booth
acting strangely. The woman said that they made her uncomfortable.

(32:57):
The couple left around ten forty five as the girls
began to close up shop. They closed at eleven, and
they left the two men alone in the shop. So
the policy of the store was to lock the door
ten minutes before actual closing time, but you leave the
key in the lock, so everyone who's finishing up you
can just easily let them out, but nobody knew could
come in, so the door is locked.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
So these two creepy dudes were.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
The last customers in the store last night that night,
and about an hour later the fire was first noticed.
So that's okay. A days after the murder, however, Jennifer,
Eliza Amy and sorry. Eight days after the murders, investigators
picked up a sixteen year old kid named Maurice Pearce

(33:44):
the North Cross Mall, which is just a couple of
blocks from the crime scene. He was carrying a twenty
two caliber handgun. During questioning, he said that he'd lent
the gun to a friend, Forrest Welburn, who was fifteen,
and that they'd use it to commit the yogurt shop murders,
and Welborne denied any involvement, but told investigators that he

(34:04):
and Pierce and a pair of acquaintances Robert Springsteen and
Mike Scott, had taken a joy ride to San Antonio
and a stolen suv not long after the crime, and
so it put these two other boys, Robert and Mike
on the radar as well.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Let's I have a photo of it. You can go
to the next minute. No, that's not it.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Here we go, that's them. It's like, it just reminds
me of Paradise Lost. What do you think, guilty or
not guilty?

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Oh shit, you're just saying that because of the mullet.
That's not fair, antony. It made sense back then, I
got people learned that. Yeah, that's right, my mom. Okay.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
So, so Welborn's brought in for questioning by the detective.
He passes a polygraph test. The ballistics of the gun
didn't match up to the bullets that had been used.
There was no evidence to link any of them to
the crime, and detectives noted that Pierce seemed to have
a mental illness. But anyways, they were dismissed as suspects
and the case stalled.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
So was Pierce the one that said he did it? Yeah?
And that likes them ment eventually, So that's almost exactly.
Yeah the crime you.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Just named, Uh, I was like innocent something.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
It just happened and we can't remember. Yeah, that's right,
because that's right. Okay.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
So five years later and around three hundred and forty two,
suspects and fifty false confessions or confessions that didn't pan out.
A new detective, Paul Johnson, takes over and he okay,
obviously it's one of those the cities freaking the fuck out.
Why mean you caught the murders. You guys are inept
that sort of thing. And so the cops do the

(35:56):
thing that they always do, or they're like it's this guy,
you know, because they're like, he got someone. So Paul
Johnson did that. He he focused on the boys, the
four boys, let's see. He brought in Pierce, Scott, Springsteen,
and Welborne for questioning. Five years later, all of them

(36:16):
died any involvement.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
In the murders.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
At first, but after a series of intense interrogations, Scott
broke down and admitted that he helped carry out the murders,
saying he shot one of the girls in the head
at Pierce's insistence. The police theory was that the four guys,
this four teenagers, planned to rob the yogurt shop. Three
of them would go in, one of them would wait
in the car, but that something went right and the

(36:40):
killing started. Then the detective that had originally dismissed the
boys as suspect was never consulted.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
By the new cop.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
So in nineteen ninety nine, all four men charged with
capital murder. Springsteen admitted to shooting one of the girls,
but Pierce and Welborne never admitted to killing and they
were let go. So the crazy one started at all
was let go despite having nothing but confessions to use
against them, which by then they had both recanted, saying
that police had of course coerced their statements.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
And there was even a photo.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Of Paul Johnson holding a gun in the interrogation room
to the back of one of their heads.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
What yeah, who took a picture of that? It's like
a it was a selfie.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
H it was surveillance video. Oh the fucking oh oh yeah.
So like that's kind of cordial. I mean, Jesus, well,
he had he had already put people away for false
confessions that later were exonerated by by DNA and people

(37:46):
admitting to it. So this was kind of his thing.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
And here he is. Now you get to say your
side of things. I went to his hometown. Murder is okay.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
So so but they're sentenced to So Springsteen sentenced to death,
Scott's sentenced to life in prison without parole in two
thousand and one and two. Then in two thousand and
seven knew. So that was two thousand and one. New
DNA evidence not available during their original trials revealed a
male's DNA on the youngest victim Amy. When the DNA

(38:25):
was tested, it didn't match any of the fourteens.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Convictions were overturned.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
The cases were thrown out more than ten years after they.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Were arrested, so they were in jail for a decade.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, all right, So what really happened? So it wasn't
until two thousand and eleven that Carlos Garcia, the lead
defense attorney for Mike Scott, put the crime scene photos
into sequence, looking for details that he might have previously missed.
This is fucking bananas. When he looked closely at a

(39:02):
specific crime scene.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Photo, go when he looked When he looked at a.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Specific crime scene photo of the dining area of the store,
which wasn't that badly damaged by the fire, it showed
the room mostly clean for the night. Tables had chairs
stacked on them, the napkin holders were full except for
one table, a booth in the back barely visible, and
also the booth that The elderly woman told the investigators
that the two sketchy men were sitting in close to

(39:33):
closing time, had no chairs on top of it, and
then napkin holder was empty.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Okay, let's get the phone.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
What real?

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, right back there?

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Oh no, and that fucked up. I got chills, like
in the weirdest way up my neck when you said that.
Look at the napkinholder, it's fucking empty, man.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, dude, every table has a chair.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
It also, look at that picture. I can't believe that's yogurt.
I fucking can't believe. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
So like, yeah, okay, close, unlock the door while these
guys finish up.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
They do.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
But that cop in the office, he flips down that pictures.
He's like screaming aloud by himself.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
I think everyone kind of went, oh fuck, we really
missed something. I think everyone kind of lost their mind.
So good for this dude fucking finding it. It's pretty amazing.
So so clearly they had been sitting there at closing time,
the girls were cleaning up around them. They let the
last stragglers stay, and at eleven o'clock the no sale

(40:43):
button was pressed on the register. So that's when they
think everything started.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
They asked for change, they did something. They held a.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Gun up to their faces. Probably I was like, get
me all your money. That's true too.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
One of those treasured the meter. They started off nice.
The fuck am I talking about? Can I get some
quarters for the meter? It's eleven o'clock at night and
I love yogaurls Oh. I still can't believe. I still

(41:17):
cannot believe this.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
This is crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
I need change.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
So the defense lawyers believe that's the table where the
killers sat. He was still in the door when the
fire started, which means the last customer had never been
let out. There was a rag on the counter of
as someone who had been wiping down the counter, and
there was also an unopened can of coke sitting near
the register. Remember he ordered a can of coke the
guy who I found and the register had no sale

(41:43):
at eleven o'clock and the money was stolen. So that's
when that probably started. And the killers likely escaped out
of the back door after they started the fire, so
they had an hour to do all of this. Neither
Darylcroft or the older married couple were called to testify
at the teens trial. It's not known exactly what they
saw because there's no testimony, So who killed these girls

(42:06):
has The book has a fucking detailed bananas theory, and
it made me sick and not be able to sleep.
So if you're a creep like me, go read it.
Not if you don't like crime scene photos. There's not
a single one in there but that it's like reads
like okay, yeah, oh no, you talking about this before
the picture came up, I was like, Oh, I want

(42:26):
to go home.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
It's like something about that that's just so fucking It's
like the thing that's there that people cannot see. How
did you want to say? Like how did they not
say this? But like I don't would any of us?

Speaker 1 (42:38):
No, Like, it doesn't mean it doesn't necessarily mean anything
unless you put all of this stuff together, Like there
was two guys who were there at the end of
it and like and they didn't let people you know,
it's just.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Well, also, you have the shock and horror of a
town like this and then four teenage girls being brutally
murdered in a way that's just there's so much grief,
there's so much horror and loss that like, I think
details always get missed in that situation because it's everyone's
just going fix it, solve it right now. This has

(43:10):
to be over and everyone in town.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
And I think a lot of I've read a lot
of like hometown murders that people wrote, and they're like,
this is when we stopped being able to go out,
this is when the town wasn't the same anymore. And
I remember being this age in it happening, and it's
just it is such a horrible I mean, I've I've
kind of followed it since it happened, and I remember
seeing that recently and it's just one of those things
that keeps unfolding and getting more and more gross and horrible.

(43:37):
So many people think that the serial killer Ken McDuff
was the one the men and was one of the
men in the yogurt stores that night. He had kidnapped
and killed Colleen Reid on December twenty ninth, nineteen ninety one,
in Austin with an accomplice. That's twenty three days after
the yogurt shot murder. He had a history of multiple

(43:57):
murders involving teenagers, but he was soon ruled out of
the crime. And I literally couldn't find anything more on
this than someone saying he flat out said, had I
done it, I would tell you because I'd be proud
of it.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
And then they're like, so it probably wasn't him. Goodbye,
Like it's so, I feel like that's a trick. I
feel like that's a trick he would use.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, it's just and it sounds well if you read
about his and I was scared that maybe you were
doing that murder and I was like, stealing your whatever
so much you're around me, I know, listen, but this
guy is a fucking monster animal, and from the other
crimes he's committed, he is absolutely capable of the details
that I read about in the book. It's it's not

(44:41):
this is a crime that is not four teenagers. You know,
in my mind it could be wrong. But it's the
sadistic serial killer who got let out after eleven years
as a known serial killer because there was overcrowding in
Texas prisons.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Well, yeah, let those serial killers go first, because there
are people who smoke potty legally, so you've got to
you've got to teach them. Yeah, you've got to teach them.
It's so easy to have the answers when you have
a pretty dress on and a great stool. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
So this Ken McDuff motherfucker is crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Well that's incredible. Also that like a suspect that big
would be in town, I mean in town. Yeah, and
he killed this other girl with an accomplice, so he
works with two people like the two of them regularly.
It just it fits.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
And he's a rapist and he's just statistics.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
So it doesn't it doesn't. It adds up.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah, but it's rumored that he admitted to the day
he was put to death. He some people say he
admitted to the yogurt shot murders, so they think he
did it.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
But what jailhouse gossip like, no one can confirm it. Yeah.
Fuck yeah, Ken.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Detectives are I know, this guy's fucking creep or too.
If you see his photo, you're just like, oh, I
would never like let you in my store. I don't
have it, sorry, And I was trying so hard. There's
like this guy daryld has a description of what the
guy looked like, and I was taking I was looking
for photos of him, and I was like, please have
a pointy nose, Please have a pointy nose, and lady
did it and I was like, well, I'm not showing

(46:18):
that photo of him.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Because he could have punched himself in the notes.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yes, he doesn't line up with what I wanted to,
So I'm not going to even acknowledge it because.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
I don't have to, because that's the little podcast. That's
the way.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
So detectives are still working on finding more evidence in
the murders, but for now it remains an unsolved mystery.
And I have the photo of the girls if you
want to see them. I know, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
That's Amy right there.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
That's Jennifer or sister Sarah, and that's Eliza, sweet baby angels.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Doesn't it horrify? They're sisters. We love sisters. I just, uh,
this one hurts me bad. I know, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
No, I mean, I hope yours is funny.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Now pull us up. You know. It's just like that's
what everybody looked like at my high school. You worked
in the yogurt shop we worked at It was because
the Noles sisters worked there, and so we it was like, oh,
do you want to work at theyugret shop? Susie Knowles
can get a great job.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Well that's happened with these two girls.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Best.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
She's like, let me get you the job at the
yogurt shop. And I wasn't going to post the photo
because it's so sad, but I'm like, that's not fair
to them. You gotta like acknowledge we got to.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Power through it. Yeah, it's just yeah, it could be
all of us, in any of us, I know.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Yeah, it comes out. So that's the yogurt shot murders.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
You're not as excited as you were in the beginning.
I can tell see how fucked up these live shows are.
That guy's leaving. He can't fucking take it. I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry you too. Oh fucking front row. This
is bullshit.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
But like, actually we could just see George's underwear and
it's freaking about so we're going to go stand in
the bed.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
We're fine with the murder. It's just that, where are
you getting those stripes? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Those are clearly from four years ago? At least two
years ago?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Everyone, So I'll pick up a pair that's literally there's
like weird shreds coming off with them, where you're just like, well,
first of all, a where did I buy these? And
secondly did I only pay ninety nine cents for them?
And why won't I throw them away?

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Everything you're saying, And then I think about like friends
who like buy expensive lingerie, and then I pull out
underwear and it's got the target, you know when you
rip the tag off and it has the threads still
in it.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yeah, I don't cut that out. It's just like it's.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
All of my underwear have a little thread from the
tag I pulled.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Off on it. And that's just what I do. I
want to know that people who wear like fancy lingerie around.
So what kind of day do you have where that's
that's something that you can make work underneath until the
night time.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
I don't if I lived alone, and when I did, oh,
they would just be as I would wear them like I.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Wear some what not.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
I have to throw them away sometimes because I'm like,
it's just gonna think I'm this person, but I totally
am that person.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
You just wears seven year old underwear. Oh no, I
mean sometimes it feels like a victory to have seven
year old underwear because you're just like you pick it
up and then you're just like, oh my god, remember
when you had fucking purple hair or whatever? Yeah, my
good memories and these moving on.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah that was a sidebar. Yeah, underwear sidebar.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
George, I'm so excited to get to ask you this
question right now. Do you have any updates on this case?
I freaking do. Okay.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
We were at a live show in Salt Lake City
just recently, Karen. You walked into my dressing room right
next door to yours, holding your phone up and going
oh my god. And I was like, Okay, either there's
some gossip to tell me or something got solved. Because
it reminded me of when you told me about the
Golden State killer being found.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
I jumped up and got out of my seat. So
full credit to the person who added me on TikTok
to basically be like, the second the clip went up
on TikTok, someone added me. So I opened up my
messages and saw it. And so I just saw it
and couldn't believe it. So I jumped up to go
tell you, But then I didn't know what the best.

(50:31):
As I was starting to think, I was like, I'm
not going to yell it at her. I want her
to read it. I want her to have her own
experience with it. I don't want to whatever. So I
just walked in going oh my god, Oh my god.
Which of course if it were if you did that
to me, I would think someone died, right, and I
would get really mad at you for not So I
did it kind of the worst way you could do it,
and you showed me your screen.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
We were both going, oh my god, Oh my god,
and poor Vince sitting on the couch behind us, because
he and I had just watched the documentary together too,
and he knew that that was like the caste that
always stuck with me. He knows that we had just
watched the documentary about it. So meanwhile, he's sitting behind
us and doesn't know what either of us are fucking
talking about. So then I got to turn to him
and go, the fucking yogurt shot murders has been solved.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
I did it to you, and then we did it
to him. It's right, but it is that kind of
thing of how would you have liked to get that news?
If I just screamed the yogurt numbers, that was perfect.
That's fine, read it for yourself. But then I can't
come in going oh my god, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Because I was just that's always fun. I love it,
Oh my god, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Moment I was blown away. I just could it after
all this time and it felt like the most hopeless one.
And then now that detective gets to wear the shirt.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
And we got to go on stage like ten minutes
later and fucking tell the audience, like most of whom
didn't know because they were like getting into this, you know,
the theater and sitting down and getting their drinks and stuff,
so most of them didn't know. And we got to
come right out and fucking say it on stage.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
That was like live show breaking up so good.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
It was all right, let me give you some updates.
So on September twenty sixth, twenty twenty five, Austin Police
announced that they finally identified the man they believe murdered
Eliza Thomas Amy Ayers and sisters Jennifer and Sarah Harbison.
The police say that they did this quote through a
wide range of DNA testing. In June of this year,
twenty twenty five, investigators were able to match a bullet

(52:21):
casing found in a drain at the yogurt Chop to
a casing left behind in another unsolved murder which took
place in nineteen ninety eight in Kentucky, and this didn't
point to the culprit's identity because it was also unsolved,
but it provided some movement in the case. You know,
suddenly there's a whole nother case to use as evidence.
And the big break came in August of this year

(52:43):
when Austin detective asked labs around the country that do
what's called why str typing, which involves male specific Y
chromosome DNA, to manually search through their database for a
potential hit, and a lab in South Carolina reported a
one two one match with DNA left in a nineteen
ninety sexual assault and murder in Greenville, South Carolina, with

(53:06):
Austin Police's lead detective on the case, Daniel Jackson, saying,
quote the full profile and every allele was the same.
Oh my god, the chills they must have gotten when
they fucking are crazy. So that specific DNA profile belongs
to a man named Robert Eugene Brashers, who took his
own life during a standoff with police in nineteen ninety nine.

(53:26):
Detective Jackson says that the DNA has now linked Brashers
to quote unsolved murders and.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Sexual assaults across.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
The country end quote, with some outlets calling him a
serial killer. Yeah, we're going to find out so much
more about him, I feel like, and the cases he.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Is linked to.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Authorities have also compared the bullet casing found at the
yogurt shop with the gun Brashers used to kill himself.
The specific type of shell casing is described as consistent
with Brasher's gun, and so this update brings long awaited
closure for Eliza, Amy, Jennifer, and Sarah's loved ones. On
September twenty ninth, at a news conference, Jennifer and Sarah's mom,
Barbara said quote, I'm full of gratitude. It's been so long,

(54:08):
and all we ever wanted for this case was the truth.
We never wanted anyone to go to jail or to
be charged with anything they did not do. Vengeance was
never it. It was always the truth. Definitely watched the
documentary that just came out on HBO called the Yobert
Shot Murders. I mean, this is just monumental. It's incredible,
it really is.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
And also just that idea of what they asked, like
what the homicide department in Austin asked people to do
to get different results. It's that thing of like it
really does feel to me like cold case detectives they're
standing for new policing because they have to go back
and be like, what mistakes did we make the last time,

(54:50):
that we're not going to make this time right.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
And to be able to have that humility to do that,
to admit mistakes, to start over, to contradict the cells
and the people who came before them, Yeah, that takes
a lot of humility, I think, And so to do
that is really incredible and get new results and admit wrong.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
It reminds me of the Portland Police who made the
public statement that they would be protecting protesters and not
ICE agents at any future events happening in Portland. Right,
And a girl on TikTok made this video She goes,
I just got to say, police, you have a great
opportunity here to turn it around and stop being the

(55:31):
villain and start actually doing stuff that the people need
you to be doing. Totally serve and protect people in
a real way.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Yeah, for sure, So incredible. We're so excited to bring
that update to you guys.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
So great.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
All right, Well here's another horrifying one and another legendary one.
This is Karen's story about the Servant Girl Annihilator.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Well, because we're in Austin. I'm going to do this
Servant Girl Annihilator. Yeah right, it's the one that listen
if you google Austin's serial Killer, that's what comes up.
It's like the first seven results. And this will lighten
the mood a little.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
I feel like, which is I think this will lighten
the mood a little bit?

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Yes, for sure. Yeah, vintage murders. Everyone's like vintage. There's annihilation.
It's what everybody likes. Yeah, all right. Uh. Sometimes when
I'm writing this and I'm under pressure because it's five
oh five yep, and we have to be here at
six because the show starts at seven, I emailed.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
This to Vince at like five forty five.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
I'm like, can you print this for me? Do you
find that you're more you let yourself be more of
flowery and interesting as you write your as you put
it together. No.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
I started it like two weeks ago, and I was like,
this is going to be so detailed and interesting. And
then I kept going back and be like I don't
have as much stuff as I thought I did, and
like fuck and like copying a paste.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Oh okay, no oh, because I get well. My only
point was just I do stuff like the year of
eighteen eighty five. It was a difficult one for Austin, Texas.
Now that guy leaves. Fuck, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine.

(57:23):
He was just here with his girlfriend anyway, never been
into it. Now she has to watch football. It's a
trade off. Thing happens a lot. Or wrestling. Maybe, yeah,
maybe some Wrestling's wrestling? She okay. In eighteen eighty five,
here in your beautiful town, there was an unprecedented axe

(57:45):
murder crime spree that had the entire city in a panic.
By the end of the year, there was a city
wide curfew. Strangers were forced to identify themselves or be
run out of town Georgia. It was like cat, my
middle name's land, no out out, we don't know you.

(58:06):
Citizens formed a vigilance committee to patrol the streets at night.
Downtown saloons were being forced to close at midnight. What
insanity horror, it said, saloons and other raucous businesses. What's
that you guys? Yeah, it's like cooorhouse. We're talking about horside,

(58:28):
I mean sex worker house, sex workers apartment building. At
one point, the city hired Pinkerton detectives to come and
try to find this man, but they couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
If a Pinkerton people can't find it, if the pinker
does can't find it.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Four hundred men were arrested. No one was ever officially
charged for all the crimes. To this day, no one
knows for sure who the servant girl annihilator was. So
it all started on the night of December thirtieth, eighteen
eighty four, at nine oh one West Pecan Street or Pecan.
I don't know how you guys do what I have.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Peccanc Pecan, Pecan, percorn, it's pecorn, Okay, it's actually Almond oh,
Almond Street.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yeah, sorry, I'm from California. Nine oh one West Pecan Street.
A twenty five year old woman named Mollie Smith, who
was working in that household as a cook, was attacked
with an axe while she slept. Then the intruder dragged
her unconscious body out of the house into the backyard,

(59:44):
raped her, and then murdered her in the backyard.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Rye fie, I mean, I why a lot of that?

Speaker 2 (59:52):
No? Just yeah, philosophically yeah, but also emotionally yeah yeah, okay,
and then also just why just stay inside?

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Body just stands on that was my main why. But
that sounds shitt is that the main why.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
I actually really wanted to uh, but it turns out
I had to take a shower. I wanted to do
a thing where I looked at what the full when
the full moons were because there's a lot of theories
about that part of it. When when this gets really
bad and this axe murderer in your town repeatedly kills
a ton of people, everybody goes nuts with the theories

(01:00:28):
and it's kind of awesome, o case, We'll get to
it a little bit. So Molly was the first victim
five months later, on May seventh, eighteen eighty five, at
three Zho two East Cyprus Street. Doctor Lucian B. Johnson
has employed a cook name Eliza Shelley. Eliza is a
thirty year old mother of two young children. One is
six years old named Georgia and one is six months old.

(01:00:52):
Eliza's husband is in prison and she lives in doctor
Johnson's home working for them with her children, Ldren, and
she is described later as an excellent woman. On the
night of May seventh, and intruder breaks in and attacks
Eliza as she sleeps, murdering her with an axe. So

(01:01:16):
two weeks later, on May twenty third, at three h
two East London Street in the home of Sophia Whitman.
So basically Sophia had her house up in the front
and then there were apartments in the back and back
there a widow named Irene Cross lived with her son
Washington and her nine year old nephew Douglas. And Douglas Washington,

(01:01:37):
Uh no, Washington was the other son. Guy. Sorry, it's okay.
We've got to be able to talk about stuff like this.
So that night, same intruder breaks into Irene's apartment murders
her in bed with a knife. Her son, Washington, who

(01:01:59):
was an adult I think he was twenty four, was gone,
he was out for the night. Douglas, the nine year
old nephew, is the one of the only real eyewitnesses
of the servant girl annihilator, and when he talked to
the police, he described the police to the police the
person he saw was quote a big, chunky man who

(01:02:20):
was barefooted with his pants rolled up. What. So three
months go by, now we're at three hundred East Cedar
Street and it's the home of a man named Valentine Weed.
That's all one wants for Valentine. I mean, only great
things are happening in that house with Valentine Weed. She's

(01:02:44):
so passed a block. So this is and this house
is exactly a block north of where Eliza Kelly was murdered.
So a woman named Rebecca Raimie, who was a fifty
year old widowed mother of three, got a job as
a domestic servant for the Weed family. She lived on
the property with her eleven year old daughter Mary, and

(01:03:09):
Rebecca actually came from a very prominent Austin family. Her brother,
Edward Carrington, ran the Carrington Grocery Store, which was one
of the first black owned businesses in Austin, and she
also had another brother who ran the nearby blacksmith shop.
I couldn't find I couldn't drag and drop this picture
to give it to Stephen to put in our thing.
Oh I bet I have a picture too. You can

(01:03:30):
throw up really whatever you have. Oh, look, there's your town.
Remember when it was just a grid? Where are we?
Who was so easy to ride your bike around with
your big beard or whatever? Oh but there was a

(01:03:51):
picture of Rebecca's family and they all had these amazing
like you know, like the coke model lady. They all
had like those tiny waist high neck lresses with a
big hat nail super like you know, don't fuck with me.
It was awesome. Yeah, okay, so she she is. When

(01:04:14):
she is widowed, she has to start working for herself.
So she gets this job and uh she works for
the weeds. Uh so dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Okay, so a horrible pun, but I'm not gonna well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Do it, do it? And intruder breaks into her bedroom window,
beats her until she's unconscious, then goes into eleven year
old Larry's room, drags her out into the backyard, rapes her,
and murders her with a fucking axe. All right, fuck
uh so these this is when the rumors begin because

(01:04:48):
people start talking about this must be a supernatural being
because everyone's saying that the nights these attacks occur, no
dogs bark, so there are dogs in the next door
neighbor's yard, so when he pulls people out into those yards,
no dogs are barking, and they can't figure out why
we have a mistake.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Oh for a mistake, well, hold on, it is to
solve the mother cry.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Well, good night, everybody, thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
I mean, you guys have seen cartoons, right, and they're
like trying to sneak in and they're.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Just like it just steak and then the dog eats
it and pulls out a cat cat skeleton for I
mean fish skeleton forget it all right, okay, okay, So
among those because also there was many nights it was
either a full moon or there was just a lot
of moonlight. So people don't understand how this person's getting

(01:05:43):
away with it. A lot of people think he might
be invisible. Uh, there's a there's an invisibility factor to it. Look,
I'm here, he is now nothing. Hmmm. Moving on, why
is every page upside down? I think that makes sense

(01:06:05):
trying to do this right on a month later on
the night of is that right? Yeah? Yes, his three
months went by, so a month later. And this is
also that thing that they're spaced out in this really
interesting way where he like has a bunch of murders,
then rests for three months and has a classic serial
killer on the night of September twenty eighth, at the

(01:06:27):
residence of William B. Dunham's house. It's at two four
zero eight Guadaloupe Street. Do you live there? Guadaloupe I'm
not talking to you anymore. So man twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
He's nervous about Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
This is nothing compared to we've had, well, we've had before. Sure.
So in this house in the back, there's a cabin
in the back of the house where twenty five year
old Orange Washington and his girlfriend, twenty year old Gracey
Vance are sleeping, and the intruder once again breaks in
and he murders Orange in his sleep and then drags

(01:07:12):
Gracie into the backyard, rapes her, and murders her. Three
months later, Christmas Eve. It's a two oh three water street.
It's the home of Moses Hancock. So forty one year
old Susan Hancock, who is the mother of two girls.
It's Christmas Eve. They're out at a Christmas party and
she is asleep in one of their rooms. It's not

(01:07:33):
a happy marriage. Moses' is sleep in the other room.
Let's not talk about it. It's none of our business.
So an intruder breaks into the house, into the room,
grabs her, drags her into the backyard. Now because up
with that right, he wants to be outside. He wants
to be under the moon like a fucking werewolf, which

(01:07:55):
brings us back to the supernatural element of trying to
introduce him to this podcast. In two months, we're gonna
be all were wolves. I can't wait. And no one
ever listened again. Uh okay. So her husband, Moses is

(01:08:15):
sleeping the other room. He wakes up because he hears
a noise, goes outside. There's a man murdering his wife
in the backyard. He tries to attack the man. The
man turns around, starts hitting him with the axe, and
then brings away. So he's very badly injured. Four days later,
missus Hancock dies from our injuries. So then when he recovers,

(01:08:36):
mister Hancock is arrested for the murder of his wife.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Yes, yes, he got a fucking hat shit in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Yeah, but it does anyone can do that. His daughters
both come to his defense. They say he's never been
he's a lovely father, he's never been bad to any
of us. But a family of Susan Hancock at tests
that Moses was a vicious drunk and that Susan was
about to leave him, And later they find this letter

(01:09:04):
that she wrote to him but never gave to him
in her belongings that read dear husband. I've lived with
you for eighteen years and have always tried to make
you a good wife and help you all I could.
I have loved you and followed you day and night.
You won't quit whiskey, and I am so nervous. I
can't stand it. You know, it almost kills me for
you to drink. And Lena is almost crazy and will
lose her mind. She fucking puts it on her daughter.

(01:09:26):
Lena is a nut, and it's your fault. If I
was to do anything to disgrace you and our children,
you would leave me. You would have quit me long ago,
which is a good point. And then she says, take
care of yourself. Write me at Waco. I will answer
every letter your wife until death, Sue Hancock. But then

(01:09:47):
she doesn't leave him. She stays so ny. So everyone's like, oh,
how convenient. But now your wife has been murdered in
the backyard. But Moses Hancock is never convicted for the
murder of his wife. On the very same night, Christmas Eve,
at three h two Hickory Street, Ula Phillips, who is

(01:10:07):
a seventeen year old wife and mother of one, what
the hell I want to hear about it? She got
married off in an arranged marriage when she was no
fourteen and then had a baby a year later, and
so strangely enough, it turned out she wasn't that happy
in the marriage because she had to marry a guy

(01:10:30):
that was I think he was twenty one when she
was fourteen.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
I mean, it doesn't matter at what age. Greats it sucks?

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Yeah, yeah, it does matter a little bit. That's right.
You're right. We've gone into an area where you're fourteen.
You probably have a retainer and you won't stop talking
about skittles, and you shouldn't have your own baby. Maybe

(01:11:02):
some do it and some do it great anyway, So
she had actually already taken the baby and left her husband, James,
because he was also a huge drinker. What's going on, Austin.
It's all anyone did in the eighteen hundreds and still do? Yeah,

(01:11:23):
rock on then single, sad tear for me not being
able to I had all mine already, met me bars,
read wine, you pull out a drink from down here. Okay,
So she left him, and while she was gone, she
ended up having an affair with a wealthy, well connected

(01:11:45):
man named John Dickinson. Girl, but then James, that's right.
But then James got a job, he stopped drinking, got
his whole act together, and he went and found her
and he was like, please take me back. I want
to make this work. Are you wealthy? Yeah yeah, And
she's like, well, I'm seventeen, so okay. So she goes back.

(01:12:10):
But then this night, on this night of Christmas Eve,
she had snuck out of the house and she had
gone to one of the basically the eighteen hundreds version
of a hotel motel, and they didn't no one knows
who she was going there to meet. But she went there,
asked for a room, and the person that ran and said,
no rooms tonight, and so she went back home and

(01:12:32):
within an hour she was dead. She was attacked with
an axe while she was sleeping. She was dragged into
the backyard. She was raped and murdered. Her husband heard
her being attacked, runs outside. He's also attacked and he's
very badly wounded. But he is arrested, tried, and convicted
for her murder.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
So we think he did it it knew, okay, I do.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
The prosecution painted him as a violent, jealous, drunk, but
eventually the case is overturned because his lawyer argues that
he never knew about her affair, so how could he
be jealous? Hey, wrap that up, nice little, easy peasy,
you old drunk. Okay, So here's a couple of things,

(01:13:20):
A couple interesting trivia facts. All of the all of
the victims that were left behind that their husbands didn't
come upon them. They were all posed in the same manner.
I could not find what that manner was on the internet.
Maybe someone knows. I like to picture it was kind
of a beechey thing like this, but that's more of

(01:13:42):
a defense mechanism, because this is fucking horrifying. This is worse.
Six of the murdered women had a sharp object inserted
into their ears. The worst, oh air, the worst? Oh
have you? Like?

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Yeah, it's not the same thing as stabbing yourself with
a Q tip Georgia like, but just don't even say
it out loud.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
But it's so bad that that's as bad as you
want to imagine it being. That's how bad that is.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Yeah, that's how I can even go too.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Here's my favorite. At several of the crime scenes, bloody
footprints were found and the uh right foot was missing
a left toe. Ooh no, that doesn't work. The right
foot was missing a big toe. Shut it up up.

(01:14:34):
Oh my god, perfectionism with the words and the details.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
I didn't I didn't catch it because I was like,
uh huh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
It's right there. I wrote it right there on the page.
Do miss left I can do it whenever I want,
even twenty minutes before left toe send print, say word
forever jemn. If you guys hadn't made a collective Austin

(01:15:04):
based groan, we had been like, great, No, left toe
sounds good.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
If you're new to the podcast that this is basically
what it's like. What happened is now if someone says
something wrong, the other one not knowing it and then
moving on, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Like living Twitter, but the best kind.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
There were lots of quote unquote eyewitnesses during this murder spree,
so the killer was variously reported to have been a
white or dark complexion or yellow man wearing lamp black
to conceal his actual skin color, which because there were

(01:15:44):
so many lamps around, so you were just like it
do so many murders. He was also described as a
man wearing a mother Hubbard style dress.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Why why yes, so much worse.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
It's yes, this is your kind of story is mother
Howard and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
All mother Goose is the one with all the kids underneath.
He's like, I'm an axe murderer and I have children
under my dress. Oh no, how fucked up is that?
They're into it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
They're into murder too, and they all come out and
they're like, pray love murder.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Fuck uh. He was also described as being a man
wearing a slouch hat. That's pretty hip. I don't know
what that is. But if it's just a cat and matt,
that motherfucker. He's always up to no good. It's just
the cat and hat, like I did some murders in
the eighteen hundreds, No big deal. Whoop fish bowl. Also

(01:16:46):
a man wearing a hat and a white rag that
covered the lower part of his face. That's the elephant man,
Get it together, eyewitnesses. There is also a story about
a Malay cook. I'm assuming that means Malaysian, but I'm
not sure. So the story was that there was a
Malay cook calling himself Maurice had to can't not. He

(01:17:15):
had worked at the Pearl House in eighteen eighty five,
and he left some time in January of eighteen eighty six,
which is exactly the timeframe of these axe murders, and
the last in the killing of Miss Hancock and Miss
Eula Phillips. The former occurred during on Christmas Eve. That
was just before the Malay departed, and then that's when

(01:17:39):
the murders ended. So they think he did it, and
they also think that he went he got on a
boat and he went to England and he became Jack
the River. Shut up? Don't you love it? I love it.

(01:18:00):
The Malay that you never saw coming is actually the
star of the show. Just a low key Mulay named Maurice.
That's like, guess fucking what, my name's not Jack. But
people love to theorize, don't we, especially when we don't
know anything that's real. Okay. I also introduced the idea

(01:18:24):
that the Servant Girl Annihilator could also be the axe
Man of New Orleans. Yeah, who remember that? That was
my very bold and brave theory that I pulled off
of Wikipedia because he was he was in Uh he
was doing it in the nineteen fourteen, nineteen sixteen. Who
knows all competing theories, anything's possible. Here's the most interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
In February of eighteen eighty six, at a saloon in
the East Austin, a nineteen year old cook named Nathan
Elgin was verbally and then physically attacking a woman in
a bar with such viciousness that it scared the rest
of the patrons of the bar into silence. He then
dragged her out of the bar and down the street

(01:19:12):
to his sister's house and inside.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
So can you oh my god, right, so many questions.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Yeah, of how are you just sitting there?

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Right? And okay, go on, But also how scary was
the guy that Everyone's like, I've got two guns right now,
and I'm still too scared to go after you. I'm
made of guns. It's what I do for a living.
I'm a cowboy in Austin, Texas. You go ahead and
take her. That's fine. So the barkeeper and another man

(01:19:46):
chase him, and somebody else goes and gets the sheriff.
They all end up at this house and inside he's
attacking this woman. He's on her, he's got a knife,
and they start to tussle with him. He basically essentially
brandishes the knife and the sheriff shoots him dead. I
think I have a picture of that sheriff. If you
want to skip ahead, it's pretty epic. Oh okay, let him. No,

(01:20:14):
it's not very shit.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Oh my god, I saw him walking down the streets today.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Remember now he roast coffee beans for a living, but
he used to be the sheriff. Wow. I love him
so much. The Austin vampire, the hip vampire that's been
alive for ten thousand years, just doing right by everybody. Anyhow,

(01:20:42):
here's the thing. He shoots him. Had his name on
here somewhere, it's long gone. The sheriff shoots this guy.
And then when they take off his shoe, no, no
big show on his right foot.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Motherfucker. Yes, no, it was him. It's totally well.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
They don't know, and they couldn't prove it because the
guy was dead. But there were no more axe murderers
after that day forrmal Asian guys.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Like, they kind of drove me out of Austin. I
really wanted to stay here. Yeah, I never killed anyone.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
And this guy in public, Maurice Morris is like, it's
freezing in London. What about the fuck you guys. I
was a really good cook. It's rude. Wow, yeah, dude, Yeah,
that's it. Sorry, thank you. That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
Okay, we're back. Are there any updates on this case?

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Karen? There is one. Basically, in twenty seventeen, archivists uncovered
a few old forgotten files related to this case in
a Travis County warehouse. Wow, oh yeah, chills truly And
they include an inquest of victim's diary and court records
for two trials. They don't shed any new light on
the murders, but they were put on display. So but

(01:22:06):
I mean, to me, it's like, yes, that's true, but
maybe there's something in there, could be there still could be.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Yeah, what I mean that intern who's just like doing
the filing back then, yeah, lost her mind.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
It's got to be a hurt. It's got to be
a hurt. It's got to be the kind of person
that's like, what's this box back here? Totally, you might
as well look in here. You have organization. Just the idea.
This reminds me of the Man from the Train in
that way where it's like a true monster at.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
Large in a time where people didn't really consider that
as much.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
They were like I just want maple syrup in that
good bible, you know what I mean? It was all
very simple, and then there's these monsters.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Who are easily able to like just blund right in
and disappear.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Yes, and horrible axe murder women fucking insane. Yeah, well,
now let's head back to the paramount. We're going to
wrap up this live show. You guys, we don't have
time to know a hometown or we're so hi you can't.
Ye'll know you're not allowed to.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
And I'm so bummed because I know from Twitter that
we have a crime scene investigator on the home.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Shit, I'm so in the office. Can we bring the
house slights up for one second, just so we can
look at a crime scene investigator in real life and
we turn them up just slightly slightly, and then don't
stand upciate a crime scene investigator. Hurry. Oh you're sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
She's wearing a toxic masculinity shirt. But she can't wear
that just to work, almost in school.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Like, can I just ask you a quick question? Don't
answer for her? Do you steal crime scene tape and
take it to your home like we do post it notes?
Do you just no, she's not talking to me. We're

(01:23:53):
very excited her hair. Thank you for sending us that message.
It's it's always very exciting when actual professionals are like,
we don't hate what you're doing. It's so very fun.
So this episode was originally entitled Live at the Moontower
Comedy Festival. Kind of a gimme, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
But if we were naming it today based on something
said in the episode, maybe we would name.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
It the job Stoppers Yeah, nek tattoos? Yeah? Or ours
and Ours alone, which was us basically our thing of
surprising each other.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
With stories, that's right, Or Penicillin of America frozen yogurt.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Yes, true, that's a good one. Let's do that one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Okay, Well, thanks you guys for listening to another episode
of rewind. We appreciate you, and let's go back and
say goodbye from the Paramount Theater. We're going to be
back here a lot. I feel like we really love Austin, Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
How can we not do?

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
You guys have so much murder.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
In this state that yes, we could do the rest
of our shows here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Yeah, then we'd be fine. It would be very cool.
And you guys are awesome, and our numbers are so
bafflingly high in Texas that all the people that we're
in feral are like this one are one of you
from Texas Like what why and we don't know, but
we love you for it. Thanks, Thank you so much,
you guys, stay sexy. Bye

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