November 4, 2025 • 37 mins
Emmy and Grammy-winning comedian, actress, and bestselling author, Tiffany Haddish, opens up about the wild ride from foster care to fame, the strength it takes to rescue yourself, and the power of real friendship.
With her seventh-grade best friend Selena Martin, Tiffany joins hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger for a conversation that’s equal parts hilarious and heartfelt.
Together, they reveal how:
- Comedy can be both a shield and a medicine
- True friendship is built on presence, protection, and joy
- Giving back is the ultimate high—and a path to healing
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And if you're frivolous with your money, You're gonna be
frivolous with my heart.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Tiffany Hattish is the unfiltered queen of comedy with a
heart as big as her hit list, a megastar with
blockbuster movies, stand up specials, and a story that keeps
us rooting for her.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Before I was in Girls Trip, I grew up in
foster care, and I.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Was the very first African American female stand up comedian.
It's a host essen l and you want to anything.
I realized my comedy was a medicine early.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I noticed if I was silly enough for funny enough,
but kept me from getting a whooping.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Now, Tiffany's getting real about love and revealing the moments
that changed her life forever in Little.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Tiffy Little Tea like I always just want to rescue
her night, I'm always trying to figure out how to heal.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Her and save us when her writer died.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Since seventh grade, Selina Martin, do you want to correct
through We weren't getting shot.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
At clean your mind. We were in that environment. In
my mind, they was trying.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
To kill These two bring laughter and lessons in equal measure.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And a man rolled up in a white van. We
should not have gotten in that white van.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Join Houst Martin, Luther King the Third, Andrea Waters, King,
Mark Kilberger and Craig Kilberger for a raw, hilarious and
heartfelt conversation about true friendship, rescuing yourself, and the search
for love.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Best relationship advice my friends have given me is probably
don't share.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Welcome to My Legacy Today. Our guest is Tiffany Hattish,
Emmy and Grammy winning Force of Nature, whose story runs
from South Central to sold out stages. Our listeners and
viewers know you, and they know, of course that on
this show guest of a role solo, they always have
their ride or die, their best friend forever, the person
who knows them better than anyone else. And so, Tiffany,
(01:47):
would you do us the pleasure in introducing who is
your plus one with you here today?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Mah plus one is the uh incomparable, my better good friend.
We've known each other since the nineteen We got it
in trouble together, We've rescued each other. She is my confidante.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
She knows where a lot of the bodies are buried,
but I tell no one were all bodies are by.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Snitching and stuff. You know what I'm saying. But this
is my girl, my day one.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I know we've known each other in the past life,
when we met up in this life and I'm gonna
stuck the next life.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Girl, that's my friend, Selena Martin save in this recording
for everything.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
That exactly.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Tiffany, you and Selena go back to what seventh grade?
So what's the moment that you point to and say
that this is my ride or die.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I knew it was gonna be friends for life when
we got shot at in front of that liquor store
and we.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Was runging, and I think Selena dropped down.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I ran into the liquor store and then she came
in the liquors thought and was like, what's mojo?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Are you crazy? And I know we would be.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Friends, but that day was it seventh grade?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
That was an eighth grade grad? Yeah, I do want
to correct. We weren't getting shot at environment we're shooting.
We weren't getting shot in your.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Mind we were in that environment. In my mind, they
was trying to kill them. Okay, in my mind was
trying to kill us. They might have been shooting at
the dude that was on the other side of the building.
But in my mind, m m, they was trying to
kill him.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Celia, can we ask you have said that you have
loved and I love this phrase, you have loved her crazy,
but since you've known her forever, So what was the
moment that in your mind you guys became friends.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Selena, I just love that you said that because I
love having my co hosts here having to quote you
then saying I've known her crazy button particularly if you
know our.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Yeah, I'm a little bit more of the button up
one here, honest looking.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Shirt, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I think I think the first time I came to
her house, I was invited over to her house. I
think being in you know, someone's intimate space like that,
especially as a kid, to be invited over someone's house,
it's like, Wow, Okay, this is really my friend. This
is like, you know, meeting her mom, her siblings, you know,
(04:25):
just seeing where she sleeps. Like I think that was
the time that I felt like, Okay, this is a
this is going to be my really good friend. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Because my mom would let nobody come up to the house,
I was aloys sleep the house every day, eating up
all the leftovers for the daycare kids lunches. It's literally like,
I don't know why you wouldn't eat that.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I'm like, your mom is a great cook, Like I
was trying to figure out how to move into her house.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
So but so, Tiffany, you all met then before, before
you entered foster care, right before Yeah, and then you've
been open and vulnerable talking about the heartbreaking experience. And
I really know that your honesty has helped so many
kids get through their experience, and not only for them
to get through it, but to have hope and courage
(05:12):
for something bigger and better living in the same situation.
But what strength did you discover in yourself during those
years that you did not know that you had.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I didn't know that I had the ability to be
in any kind of environment. I used to think, like,
oh man, I'm just I'm only supposed to be in
this type of environment.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
But I could literally function anywhere and still also I
was surprised, like how afraid I was of everything, and
like I was afraid of everything.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I was really scared of a lot of stuff, but
just how I just did.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
What I really wanted to do. Anyways, even though I
was very, very afraid, like Selida. Remember that tours are
we gonna ride our bikes over here? Son? I was scared,
but I was like, if that's what we're gonna do,
we gonna do it. Let's go, like can we rode
our bikes like fourteen miles away? We shouldn't have been.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Doing that that time we was at Universal Studios. We
was at Universal City Walk. We was waiting for the bus.
It was like it was four of us. We was
waiting for the bus and waiting and waiting and waiting,
and a man rolled up in a white van. We
should not have gotten in there.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Like, oh you know van children.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Then oh my gosh, we got in it cause his
name was Kimberly.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Wait wait, how does this story end? I gotta ask?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Oh my gosh, I remember caneene Us with us finding
out that we were pretty girls that got to go
to a twenty four hour breakfast place historical breakfast or
was it the pastry the pantry in downtown La.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
They took us to that historical restaurant. I think this
is it. They're gonna rape us and kill us right
walk down in La and then they dropped us off
at that.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
This is one of those don't do this at home kids.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, this was the nineteen hundreds. It was a different time.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
But do you know that dude came to one of
my shows and he was like, I don't know you
remember me?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
My name is Kimberly And I was like, you the
man that.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Gave us home?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
You cannot make this stuff up. We cannot like the
way that he knew his name was. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And what were we like thirteen? I don't know, like
we was like fourteen years old.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
We were fourteen and we said to that man, we
gotta see your ID, give us something.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Well, what's amazing, though, is that he remembered y'all, because
I mean, how many girls did he pick up or
not pick up? All those years later? He remembered, you.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Remember my Cris?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Okay, well there you go.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Okay, So I gotta ask you knew her before she
was the megastar? Do we all knew like huge fans
in this room, but we all know her as the megastar?
You knew her before? In fact, amazingly, a moment ago,
we just heard you were visiting her. Let's take it
back literally in foster care. So what would you say
to that fourteen year old, bouncing off the wall, idealistic.
(08:16):
What would you say to her if you could turn
back time and just give her a little advice.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
A little advice. I mean, I think I would speak
more towards my availability because I think back then, of course,
we were so young, you know, and I think, you know,
my understanding of just what her and her family were
going through was just something that I didn't really fully understand,
(08:43):
but I think and I think I did it through
my actions, but maybe verbally saying to her that I'm
always available to you whenever you need me. You can
always reach out to me whenever. You know, back then
we didn't have cell phones, so you would have to
call the house phone. But you know, I think I
(09:05):
showed that through my actions.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Do you remember going with me to Inglewood on the
bus to go see my brother? M yeah, M hmm.
I really appreciated you coming with me that day. It
was the first time.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Y'all talked about that before, or is this the first
time in a long time?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I brought it up because, uh, well, she said, I'll
beat it for you always like you would have said
that to me.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But I feel like you did in so many ways
because I would be like, I'm gonna come over there,
and you wanna go and meet Inglewood.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
You'd be like, yeah, it's like whatever either one of
us brought up to each other, it was just like
a yes.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And how we doing it? Where are we going? We
were always on adventures, always like just present for each other.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I'm glad we never we wasn't really rowdy, rowdy web
being like, girl, I gotta go beat this girl up,
Come with me to go beat her? Well, dadd It's
like if we's getting in a fight, that shit was
happening right there, right there. There was no build up
to it or nothing. It was that is going down,
if it was going down. But yeah, we yeah, that's
my best friend.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Years. Okay, Tiffany. Now I want to jump to twenty seventeen,
when all those years of sacrifice, even you're sleeping in
your car outside of a comedy club, finally finally paid
off because within weeks of each other the movie Girls Trip,
which is epic. I'm gonna challenge I hate that I've seen.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
A lot of your films. I got to confess I
have not seen but.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
You have.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
To see why me, Why haven't you seen Girls?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Trips are Oh I'm gonna I'm gonna take it to
school right now? Is it?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Because the time, if it was called boys, you would
have thought.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
You know, I gotta be honest. You're calling me. There's
some truth to that. I probably would have.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yes, Craig, you are missing out, but I will make sure.
I promise you. No, no, no, no, don't let me. No, no,
he has You only want.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
To do boy stuff. I'm getting in.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
That A.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
I do, I do. I'm married. I'm married. I got
three boys, yes.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And three boys. So you only want to do boy stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
So here you got your wife, the only girl in
the house, and you don't even want to do girls
stuff with it. Nobody asks you to, you know, change
a maxpath, maybe go buy some pads.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But nobody saying put it on with me. Okay, nobody
saying change it for me. They just spend some time
doing some fun girl stuff every now and then. And
you should teach your sons back. Don't be afraid. Let's
go to a girl movie with your mom. Hot with
your mom.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Okay, we'll started. We'll start it by him watching girls trip.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, but don't have his son.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Oh no, no, no, no, no no, no no no no, no,
no no no. Martin is gonna make the popcorn We're
gonna put We're gonna watch Girls Trip, and I will
send y'all, I will send you the pictures.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
I think social media would like to also see it.
Come on, not only me, they'd like to see the
Kings watching Girls Trip and to see the moments that
they yea again again again and again.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, we've seen it. We've seen it.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So what a lady's like that? Lady?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yeah, this man on this side has seen Girls Trip many,
many times. So Girls Trip twenty seventeen, Girls Trip within
two weeks, Girl's Trip came out, and then your first
stand up comedy, which was She Ready from the Hood
to Hollywood, which introduced her stand up to the world.
So when you think back to twenty seventeen, what memory
(12:55):
makes you shake your head and say, did that really happen?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
So many moments paddle Lea Bell called me after the
hosted SML.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Then then it was like, dang I hosted SML. I
think that the hosting SMM.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Because I auditioned for it so many times rejected and
that I've hosted it. I understand, while why I was
rejected and God.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Knows better than me.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
You know, sometimes you want something it ain't for you,
that's not yours.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, that's not supposed to be my regular job.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Let me what's harder wishing for all of this and
working for it or walking in it.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, it's easy to wish.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, the journey can be hard.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
The journey itself can be hard, but it's fun. It's
worth it. The journey, it's not even about what you
wish for. It's about all the experiences getting to the
thing that you wish for. That is like, that's what
makes it worth it. Like talking like.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Back in the day when we would be in school
and go one to these parties and whatever, like you know,
young adults and experimenting with alcohol and being out of
late at night, staring at the stars, dreaming out loud
like man, it's saying things like one day we're gonna
(14:22):
go on a trip, We're gonna do this, we're gonna
do that, and just laughing like we know we only
got two dollars in our pocket. This shit ain't never
gonna happen, but let's just keep dreaming about it because
it's fun. And then like doing little.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Things every day towards that and then for me to
be able to go. Hey, guys, remember when they said
we were gonna go to Africa. One day we finding
some African kings. We guess, like, we go to Africa,
but y'all already got your kings. Let's sign up for me.
I'm gonna be you know, eighty ninety years old sitting
(14:55):
back like, wow, remember that time when we did this.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Remember when, Oh man, I'll never forget to me.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I think it's like to be able to have that,
but you have to get outside and create those experiences.
It's let's say, like you wish for all these awesome
things in life, and those things can happen, but really
enjoy those that journey, man, the journey when you having
fun on the way, you don't even you don't even
realize you got to your wish and surpassed it, right,
(15:25):
Like I have surpassed so many of my wishes, so
many of my dreams. Like you know, God is like,
you know what, that's what you want, okay, but this
is what I want for you.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I'm gonna give you a little bit of what you want,
but you're gonna get this too.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, and it's big and it's heavy, and I'm glass
fling to my friend and help me carry all this
crap because it's not it's not easy to carry, but
it's so much fun at the same time, like in
it art wretching and you want to fight people, and uh,
back to the take it back to the nineteen hundreds,
(15:57):
you know what I'm saying, don't I say, don't let
your mouth write a check that your ass can't get it.
And now we're in the era where we got a
president that's cash in those checks. So people needs to
be careful what they say.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Preach.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
You just bought up something though, with the current climate
that's going on, and particularly with you know, comedians have
always been a way in which we can relieve what's
going on. How has it or will it impact your
your craft? This current climate.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
First of all, freedom of speech has always affected comedians'
climate or their craft. I mean the court gesture would
get killed back in you know, if we go back
to the list speaking times and all this, you.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Would get killed.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
You could, you know, get us put in the dungeon
for saying things that the king doesn't like.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Okay, just as not that far go, as the nineteen seventies,
even the nineteen eighties, you go and do your little
comedy in the wrong community and say something they don't like.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
The police will put you out, but in jail. Okay,
really not to the end of it. I would say
the late eighteen I mean nineteen eighties did that stop.
But I mean n w WA was getting locked up
for saying stuff on stage. So, uh, this is just
way more prevalent now, uh, and more visible because this is.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
A bigger on a bigger platform.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
They're like, Okay, we're gonna take you off TV, We're
gonna shut you up.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
We're gonna do that, like and they doing it in front
of it like everybody has access to the exponse. So
it feels like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
But really, this has really been happening for a long time, guys,
and it definitely happens to the comedians first the messenger,
you know, they say, don't shoot the messenger if you
don't like the message.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Will some that's of the time, that's what happens. It's
history repeating this though. That's all.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Tiffany.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
We've seen you bring laughter and joy and healing to
millions with your comedy. You said comedy is a therapy,
and that it saved you first before it became your career. Now,
what was the moment that you knew the humor wasn't
just a mask, but it was medicine.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I realized my comedy was a medicine early, early, early,
probably at eleventh ten or eleven, because I noticed if
I was silly enough for funny enough, and it kept
me from.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Getting a whooping, I'm gonna forget the whooping. She said.
Sounds like, yeah, you make her laugh enough between the
time she said that you get off, she might forget.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I guess I wasn't funny enough because my mom never
forgot the same thing exactly, Selena, Yeah, you like not never.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You didn't have diod joke, I guess apparently.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Also like being on a playground and I would see
kids crying, or we'll be you know at pe, somebody
would be crying. I go over there, crack some jokes,
say something.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
They not crying no more. Or if somebody hurt theyself,
I say something silly, something funny or whatever. They not,
They not hurt no more, like even for myself, Like
I'd be feeling all sad, dag.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
This is going on downstairs and all this crazy stuff
happening at my house. I'll just make my stuff laugh
that I'm not about to cry no more, or I
would run to I also knew this was that my
that comedy was healing because I knew who made me
laugh or who made me feel joy like Selena. She
made me laugh all the time. Even though Selena not funny,
(19:45):
She's not, He's not that. It's something about the way
Selena would smile and say certain things.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I'll just I.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Would crack up laughing, or the way she would look
at me doing something. I would do something silly so
she could look at me crazy, which would make me
laugh like like and just having people like that around
that uh, and I would run to those people, like literally,
I would run up on Selena.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
She's like, what's wrong with you? I'm I was wrong
with you. There was definitely something wrong with me. I'm
trying to run away from this these negative feelings. And
I mean at the time when we met, that's like
the I think the most pivotal time in any human
beings life because that's when like your hormones is all changing,
(20:31):
you get athletic, but as your body's transforming, it to
this adult and the people you surround yourself will really
do affect how you see the world right, and they
can influence you into all kinds of things. I mean
people Selena.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Mama used to think it was me that was bad,
but it was really Selena. And we're gonna telling now
Selena all the clazy, bad ideas. I had good ideas
like let's go to the museum. I had all the good,
hostome ideas and things that made us bro We went
to the library, Let's go I hang out at the
(21:10):
Inglewood Library. That's where the men at Those are the
men we want the men that can read.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Let's get in the white van. Let's get in the
white van with Kimberly.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That was that was That was not all my ideas.
So you're now that was CC. It was CC that
had that was leading that ship.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
C C was leading that year. Next Tiffany hadish on
dating deal breakers and a day she'll never forget surprising
four hundred people with a gift that gave her more
joy than any standing ovation. Now back to my legacy.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
So I want to turn to your latest projects. In
any ways, a real life version of Girls Trip, and
I love that you surprised your three closest friends with
who you call your day ones with this month long
trip to Africa. Cameras followed the whole adventure. A DOCU
series called Tiffany Hattish goes off What did you hope
it would give you and your friends? And what unfolded
(22:11):
that you never saw coming.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
It was so much that happened on this trip that
it just I feel like the amount of growth that
I personally experienced, and just the amount of the understanding
of what my friends go through being my friend and
just being just being a human period, just being alive.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
That understanding just really it was refreshing, very refreshing. Yeah,
and it made me realize I need to spend more
time with my girls.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Have you done that since y'all have been back?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Oh? Yeah? And creating way more awesome experiences, just like
why these are my favorite people? Why am I allowing
all these raggedy people that's not my firsriend?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
That's that's a takeaway for life, man.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
You know, I love it.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
We've taken trips over the years, but to do that
trip to Africa, that the thing I have been saying
since we was little girls, and to like actually fulfill that,
and then while we're there, it's like I'm learning all
these new things about my friends that I really I
was really upset when I got home. I like, I
was glad to be home, but I was so upset
(23:24):
with myself because I'm realizing, like I don't spend enough
time with my girls, I don't know enough about them.
And then it was like, well, dammit, do I want
to know everything about this girls? Well?
Speaker 4 (23:38):
I know when I when I went to Africa the
first time as an adult and as a black woman,
it was something about seeing parts of yourself that you
didn't even know were missing until you're literally in Africa
or you know, and I mean just little things like
when you're you know, when we were in Kenya and
(24:00):
or you know, going down the road and as you're driving,
you're seeing all of these women sitting on the porch
getting their hair braided and not one or two, you know,
like just you just see so much of ourselves that
I think that we didn't even realize that. It almost
is like kind of gathering parts of yourself and seeing
things you're like, oh, yeah, that's where that came from. Okay,
(24:22):
that's that's why, you know, time is a suggestion, not
like you know, like just like the rhythm, like you know,
just to see yourself in so many places. But one
of the things, Selena, that I loved when I watched it,
I was captivated when you talked about the fact that
Tiffany would give you a postcard for your birthdays. Wow,
and then it would have places like London or have
(24:43):
some exotic beach, and you know, she would put on
the back of it that you know, we are gonna
I'm We're gonna go here someday and then here you
all are you? You did that? So, Selena, like, what
did it feel like? Not not even just for that
particular experience, but just as a grown woman, when have
(25:04):
you really said that, you know what, we really did this.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
All these years?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Okay, Sean Tiffany, how much she's grown as an individual
and also like within her career and seeing you know,
being part of that journey where where we're at the
dreaming stage right. I mean, there's been so many parts
throughout her growth in the industry that has hit me like,
(25:31):
oh shit, like I feel like I'm not your mamma,
But you know when you see your kids doing things
that they actually are very passionate about and they're achieving
a certain level of success and you're like, hey, I'm
proud of you. I'm so proud of you. But yeah,
I thought of the same thing. As far as our
(25:52):
trip to Africa is, so much growth occurred during that
trip within myself, I mean, tapping more into like my
roots and learning more of you know, where my bloodline
comes from. And I'm still I feel like I'm still
(26:13):
tapping into and learning more about that. So I would
love to, uh die deeper on where it is because
I feel like years ago, I know, before Tiffany met
her dad, you know, we were on this journey looking
for like our biological fatherses.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
And like we just go follow on the daddy's Bustlina, we.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Need yeah, yeah, wow, yeah yeah. So it's I think
since I've met my biological father, he's now passed on.
But learning more about like all my siblings and just
where that side of my bloodline comes from has been
(26:58):
quite the journey.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
And I'm still on that journey.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
But yeah, definitely, the trip to Africa is like permanently
ingrained in the books, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Like follow and subscribe to my Legacy podcast and most
importantly share this with someone who needs a reminder of
their strength today. Back in a moment, Now back to
my legacy. In the series Tiffany, you talk about your
love life and having fun now that you're single, but
(27:32):
for as single listeners, I have two questions. Number one,
what is something you thought you wanted in a man
but now you realize that you definitely do not? In
Number two, what is the best relationship advice your girlfriends
have given you? Look at Selena now she's sitting back
(27:55):
with her arms folded and Selena's listening.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Best relationship advice my friends have given me? It's probably uh,
don't share so much information right off the top, leave
a little mystery.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
So I used to want a man that was like,
you know, very like, you know, very confident, very you know,
like I'm a.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Man, I'm a manner right, But now I realize I
want a simp. I'm on with the other men.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Call a simp, that's what I.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
But that's not sure. Well, some men men men be
calling other men. I've been hearing them.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Look, the men that I used to want, the men
they I used to want.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Uh, they would say to other dudes or you were
simp man, you were simp and end up. And from
what I see, a simp is a sensitive dude, right,
but he not like a cry baby. He like he's
sensitive to these the needs of his woman. And he
usually have his own business, own money going right, his
own thing going on, and he he spoils his wanting.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And that's what I want to be now. I didn't
used to want to be spoiled, but now I want
to be spoiled. Oil me rotten. I don't want to
spend a dime on nothing.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Okay, Selena, you've watched Tiffy figure out what she does
and what she absolutely does not want. So what would
you add to her absolutely not list?
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Ooh, her absolute not list.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I'm sorry, there's just there's a few things popping on
and they kind of sound inappropriate. I'm already I know.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I know, I think.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I think what you said Tiffany is is much more
aligned with what you need. I would say the absolute,
not just the I'm thinking about the polar opposites of
who you are, right, like the guys who don't want
to get up and dance, you know, the guys who
are not.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You know, they're much more like serious and militant.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I don't know what the deal is, but I feel like,
you know how they say people attract their opposites. I
think having someone that is opposing in some areas that
that you know, unique growth in is perfect. But that
has to be a great deal of commonality, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
But she wanted to say, is is if he missing
the tooth right here a fine too. If t beIN
all straight, ain't good. That's an absolute knot dirty nails,
dirty big Get that thing away from me. Try to
score under seven hundred. Don't even try to talk to me, sir.
(30:49):
Don't even try to talk to me, because that's your
growing up report card. And if it's under seven hundred,
then that means you're not responsible.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
And if the bank won't give you a loan and
start a business or buy, why am I gonna loan
you my body? And it is frivolous with your money,
You're gonna be frivolous with my heart. And I can't
waste no more heart.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Tiffany one of the reasons why you are so inspiring
is your trying heart. Especially with the she Ready Foundation,
we had a lot of listeners here, you know, literally
now over a million who connect. Can you share with
us a story about a young person who motivates you
to do the incredible work that you do. Then, you know,
we want our listeners to be inspired to get a little involved,
(31:31):
get a little help out the foundation.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Well, the main young person that helps me get things done,
that inspire me to do what it's me, the little.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Version of me.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
She's still living there, Little t You know many men
that I have dated, it says that I haven't. They
be saying multiple personalities, Well, damn it, he's an autist, okay,
And they still influenced Knrie, Dae, Tiffany and little Tiffany,
Little t like, I always just want to rescue her, right,
I'm always trying to figure out how to heal her
(32:05):
and save her. So it's really for my younger self, like,
and all the I'm just doing all the things that
I've been doing, it's all the stuff I wish somebody
would have did for me. I wish somebody would have
gave back to.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Me, you know. And and there was little, you know,
little opportunities here and there, and I learned from those people,
and those people are still in my life to this day.
My social workers like so they still in my life,
and I think it's a part of my healing process.
And and everybody got that kid still in them. Sometimes
we ignore that kid in us. Sometimes we like, yeah,
(32:41):
forget it, we eat nice creak for dinner. Let's do it.
And if if we just stopped and looked back at
what we wish somebody would have did for us, did
that for somebody else. It's like you healing that little wish,
you fulfilling that wish.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
But also it's like this amount of joy that comes
up in your heart, like when I went to the
grocery store and fed those bar groceries for four hundred families,
That feeling of being actually there and making seeing my
money go right there, like it in people's.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Baskets, in the way they walked in the store like na,
this can't be real.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
You're really gonna do.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Oh shoot, Tiffany's really here. This is really gonna help it.
And then they're picking out the groceries and they walk
up to the register like it's not real, it's not real.
Oh wait, she really paid for it. It's real. And
the relief that I saw in their faces, the relief
of knowing that they can feed their kids.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
That relief filled my heart up. I'm still a little
bit high off of it. I'm like, I gotta do
it again.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Because I got high off of that. Like I didn't
even actually have to do a drug. I just did
a service, an active service, and it made me feel
high as a kuy like with so much joy. I
was like wallowing and joy. I was wallowing in.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Like because I could see the difference right there with
my own eyes and I could feel my body like do.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
You know I lost three pans that week. That had
a lot to do.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
With the amount of joy that I was feeling. Right,
And I think it's so important that everybody. Some people
acts a service, ain't they think? But it's my thing.
Being of service is my thing, and doing that it
brings It just makes me feel good. Like if my
friends say I need you to be you have to
be at this thing, like all right, I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
It's the service I'm doing, Like you gotta show up,
like it all show up and it makes me just
even if nobody talked to me, I feel good because
I showed up for my friend and said they needed
me to be standing there. Yeah, And that's what the
Foundation does. For me. I mean it's really selfish.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
I guess I'm doing all this nice stuff other people
just so I could feel good. So I'm just a
selfish ass bitch. Well putting the roof of the people here.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Keep it up, keep it up. Well, you know you're speaking.
I love language. Because we have we have an organization
initiative called Realize the Dream Together and the ideas that
we are wanting one hundred million hours of service completed
by the one hundredth birthday of Martin Luther King Junior,
(35:14):
So one hundred for one hundred. We want everybody to
be able to wallow in some of that joy because
we also believe that service is uplifting, is unifying, is
now is needed more than ever, and we want all
of us to be wallowing in that joy.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I love that Lena do a lot for the kids too. Yes, yes,
I'm not gonna be.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Snitching, but Selena, come on.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
So I serve on the board for she Ready Foundation,
and then my husband and I we run an organization
called mind Tribe Housing that provides housing for transition age youth.
So the youth that are you know, emancipating from the
(35:57):
foster care system or the juvenile justice system. We provide
housing and resourcing and job opportunities for those youths so
that the goal, ultimately, the goal is for them to
be with my tribe for a year and then after
that go out and find some sort of independent living situation.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
So that's my tribe dot org is how people will find.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
You in my tribe housing dot org.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Beautiful. I love it. She Ready foundation my tribe housing
dot org. For all of our listeners and our viewers,
Tiffany and Selena, just oh my god, thank you for
incredible conversation. Thank you for reminding us that laughter is healing.
Thank you for sharing this image of the two of
you staring up at the sky with only two dollars
in your pocket, dreaming of travels and what ended up unfolding.
Thank you for showing us that it is about friendship
(36:51):
and connection and we appreciate you taking us along with
you on this trip of a lifetime with your day Ones.
The docuseries Tiffany Hattish goes off drops November thirteenth, only Umpeacock.
Thank you both so much.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
All right, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you
for joining us.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
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(37:31):
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And if you're frivolous with your money, You're gonna be
frivolous with my heart.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Tiffany Hattish is the unfiltered queen of comedy with a
heart as big as her hit list, a megastar with
blockbuster movies, stand up specials, and a story that keeps
us rooting for her.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Before I was in Girls Trip, I grew up in
foster care, and I.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Was the very first African American female stand up comedian.
It's a host essen l and you want to anything.
I realized my comedy was a medicine early.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I noticed if I was silly enough for funny enough,
but kept me from getting a whooping.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Now, Tiffany's getting real about love and revealing the moments
that changed her life forever in Little.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Tiffy Little Tea like I always just want to rescue
her night, I'm always trying to figure out how to heal.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Her and save us when her writer died.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Since seventh grade, Selina Martin, do you want to correct
through We weren't getting shot.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
At clean your mind. We were in that environment. In
my mind, they was trying.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
To kill These two bring laughter and lessons in equal measure.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And a man rolled up in a white van. We
should not have gotten in that white van.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Join Houst Martin, Luther King the Third, Andrea Waters, King,
Mark Kilberger and Craig Kilberger for a raw, hilarious and
heartfelt conversation about true friendship, rescuing yourself, and the search
for love.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Best relationship advice my friends have given me is probably
don't share.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Welcome to My Legacy Today. Our guest is Tiffany Hattish,
Emmy and Grammy winning Force of Nature, whose story runs
from South Central to sold out stages. Our listeners and
viewers know you, and they know, of course that on
this show guest of a role solo, they always have
their ride or die, their best friend forever, the person
who knows them better than anyone else. And so, Tiffany,
(01:47):
would you do us the pleasure in introducing who is
your plus one with you here today?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Mah plus one is the uh incomparable, my better good friend.
We've known each other since the nineteen We got it
in trouble together, We've rescued each other. She is my confidante.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
She knows where a lot of the bodies are buried,
but I tell no one were all bodies are by.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Snitching and stuff. You know what I'm saying. But this
is my girl, my day one.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I know we've known each other in the past life,
when we met up in this life and I'm gonna
stuck the next life.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Girl, that's my friend, Selena Martin save in this recording
for everything.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
That exactly.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Tiffany, you and Selena go back to what seventh grade?
So what's the moment that you point to and say
that this is my ride or die.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I knew it was gonna be friends for life when
we got shot at in front of that liquor store
and we.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Was runging, and I think Selena dropped down.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I ran into the liquor store and then she came
in the liquors thought and was like, what's mojo?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Are you crazy? And I know we would be.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Friends, but that day was it seventh grade?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
That was an eighth grade grad? Yeah, I do want
to correct. We weren't getting shot at environment we're shooting.
We weren't getting shot in your.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Mind we were in that environment. In my mind, they
was trying to kill them. Okay, in my mind was
trying to kill us. They might have been shooting at
the dude that was on the other side of the building.
But in my mind, m m, they was trying to
kill him.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Celia, can we ask you have said that you have
loved and I love this phrase, you have loved her crazy,
but since you've known her forever, So what was the
moment that in your mind you guys became friends.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Selena, I just love that you said that because I
love having my co hosts here having to quote you
then saying I've known her crazy button particularly if you
know our.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Yeah, I'm a little bit more of the button up
one here, honest looking.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Shirt, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I think I think the first time I came to
her house, I was invited over to her house. I
think being in you know, someone's intimate space like that,
especially as a kid, to be invited over someone's house,
it's like, Wow, Okay, this is really my friend. This
is like, you know, meeting her mom, her siblings, you know,
(04:25):
just seeing where she sleeps. Like I think that was
the time that I felt like, Okay, this is a
this is going to be my really good friend. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Because my mom would let nobody come up to the house,
I was aloys sleep the house every day, eating up
all the leftovers for the daycare kids lunches. It's literally like,
I don't know why you wouldn't eat that.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I'm like, your mom is a great cook, Like I
was trying to figure out how to move into her house.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
So but so, Tiffany, you all met then before, before
you entered foster care, right before Yeah, and then you've
been open and vulnerable talking about the heartbreaking experience. And
I really know that your honesty has helped so many
kids get through their experience, and not only for them
to get through it, but to have hope and courage
(05:12):
for something bigger and better living in the same situation.
But what strength did you discover in yourself during those
years that you did not know that you had.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I didn't know that I had the ability to be
in any kind of environment. I used to think, like,
oh man, I'm just I'm only supposed to be in
this type of environment.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
But I could literally function anywhere and still also I
was surprised, like how afraid I was of everything, and
like I was afraid of everything.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I was really scared of a lot of stuff, but
just how I just did.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
What I really wanted to do. Anyways, even though I
was very, very afraid, like Selida. Remember that tours are
we gonna ride our bikes over here? Son? I was scared,
but I was like, if that's what we're gonna do,
we gonna do it. Let's go, like can we rode
our bikes like fourteen miles away? We shouldn't have been.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Doing that that time we was at Universal Studios. We
was at Universal City Walk. We was waiting for the bus.
It was like it was four of us. We was
waiting for the bus and waiting and waiting and waiting,
and a man rolled up in a white van. We
should not have gotten in there.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Like, oh you know van children.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Then oh my gosh, we got in it cause his
name was Kimberly.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Wait wait, how does this story end? I gotta ask?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Oh my gosh, I remember caneene Us with us finding
out that we were pretty girls that got to go
to a twenty four hour breakfast place historical breakfast or
was it the pastry the pantry in downtown La.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
They took us to that historical restaurant. I think this
is it. They're gonna rape us and kill us right
walk down in La and then they dropped us off
at that.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
This is one of those don't do this at home kids.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, this was the nineteen hundreds. It was a different time.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
But do you know that dude came to one of
my shows and he was like, I don't know you
remember me?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
My name is Kimberly And I was like, you the
man that.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Gave us home?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
You cannot make this stuff up. We cannot like the
way that he knew his name was. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And what were we like thirteen? I don't know, like
we was like fourteen years old.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
We were fourteen and we said to that man, we
gotta see your ID, give us something.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Well, what's amazing, though, is that he remembered y'all, because
I mean, how many girls did he pick up or
not pick up? All those years later? He remembered, you.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Remember my Cris?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Okay, well there you go.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Okay, So I gotta ask you knew her before she
was the megastar? Do we all knew like huge fans
in this room, but we all know her as the megastar?
You knew her before? In fact, amazingly, a moment ago,
we just heard you were visiting her. Let's take it
back literally in foster care. So what would you say
to that fourteen year old, bouncing off the wall, idealistic.
(08:16):
What would you say to her if you could turn
back time and just give her a little advice.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
A little advice. I mean, I think I would speak
more towards my availability because I think back then, of course,
we were so young, you know, and I think, you know,
my understanding of just what her and her family were
going through was just something that I didn't really fully understand,
(08:43):
but I think and I think I did it through
my actions, but maybe verbally saying to her that I'm
always available to you whenever you need me. You can
always reach out to me whenever. You know, back then
we didn't have cell phones, so you would have to
call the house phone. But you know, I think I
(09:05):
showed that through my actions.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Do you remember going with me to Inglewood on the
bus to go see my brother? M yeah, M hmm.
I really appreciated you coming with me that day. It
was the first time.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Y'all talked about that before, or is this the first
time in a long time?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I brought it up because, uh, well, she said, I'll
beat it for you always like you would have said
that to me.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But I feel like you did in so many ways
because I would be like, I'm gonna come over there,
and you wanna go and meet Inglewood.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
You'd be like, yeah, it's like whatever either one of
us brought up to each other, it was just like
a yes.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And how we doing it? Where are we going? We
were always on adventures, always like just present for each other.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I'm glad we never we wasn't really rowdy, rowdy web
being like, girl, I gotta go beat this girl up,
Come with me to go beat her? Well, dadd It's
like if we's getting in a fight, that shit was
happening right there, right there. There was no build up
to it or nothing. It was that is going down,
if it was going down. But yeah, we yeah, that's
my best friend.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Years. Okay, Tiffany. Now I want to jump to twenty seventeen,
when all those years of sacrifice, even you're sleeping in
your car outside of a comedy club, finally finally paid
off because within weeks of each other the movie Girls Trip,
which is epic. I'm gonna challenge I hate that I've seen.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
A lot of your films. I got to confess I
have not seen but.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
You have.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
To see why me, Why haven't you seen Girls?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Trips are Oh I'm gonna I'm gonna take it to
school right now? Is it?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Because the time, if it was called boys, you would
have thought.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
You know, I gotta be honest. You're calling me. There's
some truth to that. I probably would have.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yes, Craig, you are missing out, but I will make sure.
I promise you. No, no, no, no, don't let me. No, no,
he has You only want.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
To do boy stuff. I'm getting in.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
That A.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
I do, I do. I'm married. I'm married. I got
three boys, yes.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And three boys. So you only want to do boy stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
So here you got your wife, the only girl in
the house, and you don't even want to do girls
stuff with it. Nobody asks you to, you know, change
a maxpath, maybe go buy some pads.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But nobody saying put it on with me. Okay, nobody
saying change it for me. They just spend some time
doing some fun girl stuff every now and then. And
you should teach your sons back. Don't be afraid. Let's
go to a girl movie with your mom. Hot with
your mom.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Okay, we'll started. We'll start it by him watching girls trip.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, but don't have his son.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Oh no, no, no, no, no no, no no no no, no,
no no no. Martin is gonna make the popcorn We're
gonna put We're gonna watch Girls Trip, and I will
send y'all, I will send you the pictures.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
I think social media would like to also see it.
Come on, not only me, they'd like to see the
Kings watching Girls Trip and to see the moments that
they yea again again again and again.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, we've seen it. We've seen it.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So what a lady's like that? Lady?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yeah, this man on this side has seen Girls Trip many,
many times. So Girls Trip twenty seventeen, Girls Trip within
two weeks, Girl's Trip came out, and then your first
stand up comedy, which was She Ready from the Hood
to Hollywood, which introduced her stand up to the world.
So when you think back to twenty seventeen, what memory
(12:55):
makes you shake your head and say, did that really happen?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
So many moments paddle Lea Bell called me after the
hosted SML.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Then then it was like, dang I hosted SML. I
think that the hosting SMM.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Because I auditioned for it so many times rejected and
that I've hosted it. I understand, while why I was
rejected and God.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Knows better than me.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
You know, sometimes you want something it ain't for you,
that's not yours.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, that's not supposed to be my regular job.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Let me what's harder wishing for all of this and
working for it or walking in it.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, it's easy to wish.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, the journey can be hard.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
The journey itself can be hard, but it's fun. It's
worth it. The journey, it's not even about what you
wish for. It's about all the experiences getting to the
thing that you wish for. That is like, that's what
makes it worth it. Like talking like.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Back in the day when we would be in school
and go one to these parties and whatever, like you know,
young adults and experimenting with alcohol and being out of
late at night, staring at the stars, dreaming out loud
like man, it's saying things like one day we're gonna
(14:22):
go on a trip, We're gonna do this, we're gonna
do that, and just laughing like we know we only
got two dollars in our pocket. This shit ain't never
gonna happen, but let's just keep dreaming about it because
it's fun. And then like doing little.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Things every day towards that and then for me to
be able to go. Hey, guys, remember when they said
we were gonna go to Africa. One day we finding
some African kings. We guess, like, we go to Africa,
but y'all already got your kings. Let's sign up for me.
I'm gonna be you know, eighty ninety years old sitting
(14:55):
back like, wow, remember that time when we did this.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Remember when, Oh man, I'll never forget to me.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I think it's like to be able to have that,
but you have to get outside and create those experiences.
It's let's say, like you wish for all these awesome
things in life, and those things can happen, but really
enjoy those that journey, man, the journey when you having
fun on the way, you don't even you don't even
realize you got to your wish and surpassed it, right,
(15:25):
Like I have surpassed so many of my wishes, so
many of my dreams. Like you know, God is like,
you know what, that's what you want, okay, but this
is what I want for you.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I'm gonna give you a little bit of what you want,
but you're gonna get this too.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, and it's big and it's heavy, and I'm glass
fling to my friend and help me carry all this
crap because it's not it's not easy to carry, but
it's so much fun at the same time, like in
it art wretching and you want to fight people, and uh,
back to the take it back to the nineteen hundreds,
(15:57):
you know what I'm saying, don't I say, don't let
your mouth write a check that your ass can't get it.
And now we're in the era where we got a
president that's cash in those checks. So people needs to
be careful what they say.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Preach.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
You just bought up something though, with the current climate
that's going on, and particularly with you know, comedians have
always been a way in which we can relieve what's
going on. How has it or will it impact your
your craft? This current climate.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
First of all, freedom of speech has always affected comedians'
climate or their craft. I mean the court gesture would
get killed back in you know, if we go back
to the list speaking times and all this, you.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Would get killed.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
You could, you know, get us put in the dungeon
for saying things that the king doesn't like.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Okay, just as not that far go, as the nineteen seventies,
even the nineteen eighties, you go and do your little
comedy in the wrong community and say something they don't like.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
The police will put you out, but in jail. Okay,
really not to the end of it. I would say
the late eighteen I mean nineteen eighties did that stop.
But I mean n w WA was getting locked up
for saying stuff on stage. So, uh, this is just
way more prevalent now, uh, and more visible because this is.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
A bigger on a bigger platform.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
They're like, Okay, we're gonna take you off TV, We're
gonna shut you up.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
We're gonna do that, like and they doing it in front
of it like everybody has access to the exponse. So
it feels like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
But really, this has really been happening for a long time, guys,
and it definitely happens to the comedians first the messenger,
you know, they say, don't shoot the messenger if you
don't like the message.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Will some that's of the time, that's what happens. It's
history repeating this though. That's all.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Tiffany.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
We've seen you bring laughter and joy and healing to
millions with your comedy. You said comedy is a therapy,
and that it saved you first before it became your career. Now,
what was the moment that you knew the humor wasn't
just a mask, but it was medicine.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I realized my comedy was a medicine early, early, early,
probably at eleventh ten or eleven, because I noticed if
I was silly enough for funny enough, and it kept
me from.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Getting a whooping, I'm gonna forget the whooping. She said.
Sounds like, yeah, you make her laugh enough between the
time she said that you get off, she might forget.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I guess I wasn't funny enough because my mom never
forgot the same thing exactly, Selena, Yeah, you like not never.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You didn't have diod joke, I guess apparently.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Also like being on a playground and I would see
kids crying, or we'll be you know at pe, somebody
would be crying. I go over there, crack some jokes,
say something.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
They not crying no more. Or if somebody hurt theyself,
I say something silly, something funny or whatever. They not,
They not hurt no more, like even for myself, Like
I'd be feeling all sad, dag.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
This is going on downstairs and all this crazy stuff
happening at my house. I'll just make my stuff laugh
that I'm not about to cry no more, or I
would run to I also knew this was that my
that comedy was healing because I knew who made me
laugh or who made me feel joy like Selena. She
made me laugh all the time. Even though Selena not funny,
(19:45):
She's not, He's not that. It's something about the way
Selena would smile and say certain things.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I'll just I.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Would crack up laughing, or the way she would look
at me doing something. I would do something silly so
she could look at me crazy, which would make me
laugh like like and just having people like that around
that uh, and I would run to those people, like literally,
I would run up on Selena.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
She's like, what's wrong with you? I'm I was wrong
with you. There was definitely something wrong with me. I'm
trying to run away from this these negative feelings. And
I mean at the time when we met, that's like
the I think the most pivotal time in any human
beings life because that's when like your hormones is all changing,
(20:31):
you get athletic, but as your body's transforming, it to
this adult and the people you surround yourself will really
do affect how you see the world right, and they
can influence you into all kinds of things. I mean
people Selena.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Mama used to think it was me that was bad,
but it was really Selena. And we're gonna telling now
Selena all the clazy, bad ideas. I had good ideas
like let's go to the museum. I had all the good,
hostome ideas and things that made us bro We went
to the library, Let's go I hang out at the
(21:10):
Inglewood Library. That's where the men at Those are the
men we want the men that can read.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Let's get in the white van. Let's get in the
white van with Kimberly.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That was that was That was not all my ideas.
So you're now that was CC. It was CC that
had that was leading that ship.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
C C was leading that year. Next Tiffany hadish on
dating deal breakers and a day she'll never forget surprising
four hundred people with a gift that gave her more
joy than any standing ovation. Now back to my legacy.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
So I want to turn to your latest projects. In
any ways, a real life version of Girls Trip, and
I love that you surprised your three closest friends with
who you call your day ones with this month long
trip to Africa. Cameras followed the whole adventure. A DOCU
series called Tiffany Hattish goes off What did you hope
it would give you and your friends? And what unfolded
(22:11):
that you never saw coming.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
It was so much that happened on this trip that
it just I feel like the amount of growth that
I personally experienced, and just the amount of the understanding
of what my friends go through being my friend and
just being just being a human period, just being alive.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
That understanding just really it was refreshing, very refreshing. Yeah,
and it made me realize I need to spend more
time with my girls.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Have you done that since y'all have been back?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Oh? Yeah? And creating way more awesome experiences, just like
why these are my favorite people? Why am I allowing
all these raggedy people that's not my firsriend?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
That's that's a takeaway for life, man.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
You know, I love it.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
We've taken trips over the years, but to do that
trip to Africa, that the thing I have been saying
since we was little girls, and to like actually fulfill that,
and then while we're there, it's like I'm learning all
these new things about my friends that I really I
was really upset when I got home. I like, I
was glad to be home, but I was so upset
(23:24):
with myself because I'm realizing, like I don't spend enough
time with my girls, I don't know enough about them.
And then it was like, well, dammit, do I want
to know everything about this girls? Well?
Speaker 4 (23:38):
I know when I when I went to Africa the
first time as an adult and as a black woman,
it was something about seeing parts of yourself that you
didn't even know were missing until you're literally in Africa
or you know, and I mean just little things like
when you're you know, when we were in Kenya and
(24:00):
or you know, going down the road and as you're driving,
you're seeing all of these women sitting on the porch
getting their hair braided and not one or two, you know,
like just you just see so much of ourselves that
I think that we didn't even realize that. It almost
is like kind of gathering parts of yourself and seeing
things you're like, oh, yeah, that's where that came from. Okay,
(24:22):
that's that's why, you know, time is a suggestion, not
like you know, like just like the rhythm, like you know,
just to see yourself in so many places. But one
of the things, Selena, that I loved when I watched it,
I was captivated when you talked about the fact that
Tiffany would give you a postcard for your birthdays. Wow,
and then it would have places like London or have
(24:43):
some exotic beach, and you know, she would put on
the back of it that you know, we are gonna
I'm We're gonna go here someday and then here you
all are you? You did that? So, Selena, like, what
did it feel like? Not not even just for that
particular experience, but just as a grown woman, when have
(25:04):
you really said that, you know what, we really did this.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
All these years?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Okay, Sean Tiffany, how much she's grown as an individual
and also like within her career and seeing you know,
being part of that journey where where we're at the
dreaming stage right. I mean, there's been so many parts
throughout her growth in the industry that has hit me like,
(25:31):
oh shit, like I feel like I'm not your mamma,
But you know when you see your kids doing things
that they actually are very passionate about and they're achieving
a certain level of success and you're like, hey, I'm
proud of you. I'm so proud of you. But yeah,
I thought of the same thing. As far as our
(25:52):
trip to Africa is, so much growth occurred during that
trip within myself, I mean, tapping more into like my
roots and learning more of you know, where my bloodline
comes from. And I'm still I feel like I'm still
(26:13):
tapping into and learning more about that. So I would
love to, uh die deeper on where it is because
I feel like years ago, I know, before Tiffany met
her dad, you know, we were on this journey looking
for like our biological fatherses.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
And like we just go follow on the daddy's Bustlina, we.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Need yeah, yeah, wow, yeah yeah. So it's I think
since I've met my biological father, he's now passed on.
But learning more about like all my siblings and just
where that side of my bloodline comes from has been
(26:58):
quite the journey.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
And I'm still on that journey.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
But yeah, definitely, the trip to Africa is like permanently
ingrained in the books, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Like follow and subscribe to my Legacy podcast and most
importantly share this with someone who needs a reminder of
their strength today. Back in a moment, Now back to
my legacy. In the series Tiffany, you talk about your
love life and having fun now that you're single, but
(27:32):
for as single listeners, I have two questions. Number one,
what is something you thought you wanted in a man
but now you realize that you definitely do not? In
Number two, what is the best relationship advice your girlfriends
have given you? Look at Selena now she's sitting back
(27:55):
with her arms folded and Selena's listening.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Best relationship advice my friends have given me? It's probably uh,
don't share so much information right off the top, leave
a little mystery.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
So I used to want a man that was like,
you know, very like, you know, very confident, very you know,
like I'm a.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Man, I'm a manner right, But now I realize I
want a simp. I'm on with the other men.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Call a simp, that's what I.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
But that's not sure. Well, some men men men be
calling other men. I've been hearing them.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Look, the men that I used to want, the men
they I used to want.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Uh, they would say to other dudes or you were
simp man, you were simp and end up. And from
what I see, a simp is a sensitive dude, right,
but he not like a cry baby. He like he's
sensitive to these the needs of his woman. And he
usually have his own business, own money going right, his
own thing going on, and he he spoils his wanting.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And that's what I want to be now. I didn't
used to want to be spoiled, but now I want
to be spoiled. Oil me rotten. I don't want to
spend a dime on nothing.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Okay, Selena, you've watched Tiffy figure out what she does
and what she absolutely does not want. So what would
you add to her absolutely not list?
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Ooh, her absolute not list.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I'm sorry, there's just there's a few things popping on
and they kind of sound inappropriate. I'm already I know.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I know, I think.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I think what you said Tiffany is is much more
aligned with what you need. I would say the absolute,
not just the I'm thinking about the polar opposites of
who you are, right, like the guys who don't want
to get up and dance, you know, the guys who
are not.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You know, they're much more like serious and militant.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I don't know what the deal is, but I feel like,
you know how they say people attract their opposites. I
think having someone that is opposing in some areas that
that you know, unique growth in is perfect. But that
has to be a great deal of commonality, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
But she wanted to say, is is if he missing
the tooth right here a fine too. If t beIN
all straight, ain't good. That's an absolute knot dirty nails,
dirty big Get that thing away from me. Try to
score under seven hundred. Don't even try to talk to me, sir.
(30:49):
Don't even try to talk to me, because that's your
growing up report card. And if it's under seven hundred,
then that means you're not responsible.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
And if the bank won't give you a loan and
start a business or buy, why am I gonna loan
you my body? And it is frivolous with your money,
You're gonna be frivolous with my heart. And I can't
waste no more heart.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Tiffany one of the reasons why you are so inspiring
is your trying heart. Especially with the she Ready Foundation,
we had a lot of listeners here, you know, literally
now over a million who connect. Can you share with
us a story about a young person who motivates you
to do the incredible work that you do. Then, you know,
we want our listeners to be inspired to get a little involved,
(31:31):
get a little help out the foundation.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Well, the main young person that helps me get things done,
that inspire me to do what it's me, the little.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Version of me.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
She's still living there, Little t You know many men
that I have dated, it says that I haven't. They
be saying multiple personalities, Well, damn it, he's an autist, okay,
And they still influenced Knrie, Dae, Tiffany and little Tiffany,
Little t like, I always just want to rescue her, right,
I'm always trying to figure out how to heal her
(32:05):
and save her. So it's really for my younger self, like,
and all the I'm just doing all the things that
I've been doing, it's all the stuff I wish somebody
would have did for me. I wish somebody would have
gave back to.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Me, you know. And and there was little, you know,
little opportunities here and there, and I learned from those people,
and those people are still in my life to this day.
My social workers like so they still in my life,
and I think it's a part of my healing process.
And and everybody got that kid still in them. Sometimes
we ignore that kid in us. Sometimes we like, yeah,
(32:41):
forget it, we eat nice creak for dinner. Let's do it.
And if if we just stopped and looked back at
what we wish somebody would have did for us, did
that for somebody else. It's like you healing that little wish,
you fulfilling that wish.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
But also it's like this amount of joy that comes
up in your heart, like when I went to the
grocery store and fed those bar groceries for four hundred families,
That feeling of being actually there and making seeing my
money go right there, like it in people's.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Baskets, in the way they walked in the store like na,
this can't be real.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
You're really gonna do.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Oh shoot, Tiffany's really here. This is really gonna help it.
And then they're picking out the groceries and they walk
up to the register like it's not real, it's not real.
Oh wait, she really paid for it. It's real. And
the relief that I saw in their faces, the relief
of knowing that they can feed their kids.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
That relief filled my heart up. I'm still a little
bit high off of it. I'm like, I gotta do
it again.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Because I got high off of that. Like I didn't
even actually have to do a drug. I just did
a service, an active service, and it made me feel
high as a kuy like with so much joy. I
was like wallowing and joy. I was wallowing in.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Like because I could see the difference right there with
my own eyes and I could feel my body like do.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
You know I lost three pans that week. That had
a lot to do.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
With the amount of joy that I was feeling. Right,
And I think it's so important that everybody. Some people
acts a service, ain't they think? But it's my thing.
Being of service is my thing, and doing that it
brings It just makes me feel good. Like if my
friends say I need you to be you have to
be at this thing, like all right, I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
It's the service I'm doing, Like you gotta show up,
like it all show up and it makes me just
even if nobody talked to me, I feel good because
I showed up for my friend and said they needed
me to be standing there. Yeah, And that's what the
Foundation does. For me. I mean it's really selfish.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
I guess I'm doing all this nice stuff other people
just so I could feel good. So I'm just a
selfish ass bitch. Well putting the roof of the people here.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Keep it up, keep it up. Well, you know you're speaking.
I love language. Because we have we have an organization
initiative called Realize the Dream Together and the ideas that
we are wanting one hundred million hours of service completed
by the one hundredth birthday of Martin Luther King Junior,
(35:14):
So one hundred for one hundred. We want everybody to
be able to wallow in some of that joy because
we also believe that service is uplifting, is unifying, is
now is needed more than ever, and we want all
of us to be wallowing in that joy.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I love that Lena do a lot for the kids too. Yes, yes,
I'm not gonna be.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Snitching, but Selena, come on.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
So I serve on the board for she Ready Foundation,
and then my husband and I we run an organization
called mind Tribe Housing that provides housing for transition age youth.
So the youth that are you know, emancipating from the
(35:57):
foster care system or the juvenile justice system. We provide
housing and resourcing and job opportunities for those youths so
that the goal, ultimately, the goal is for them to
be with my tribe for a year and then after
that go out and find some sort of independent living situation.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
So that's my tribe dot org is how people will find.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
You in my tribe housing dot org.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Beautiful. I love it. She Ready foundation my tribe housing
dot org. For all of our listeners and our viewers,
Tiffany and Selena, just oh my god, thank you for
incredible conversation. Thank you for reminding us that laughter is healing.
Thank you for sharing this image of the two of
you staring up at the sky with only two dollars
in your pocket, dreaming of travels and what ended up unfolding.
Thank you for showing us that it is about friendship
(36:51):
and connection and we appreciate you taking us along with
you on this trip of a lifetime with your day Ones.
The docuseries Tiffany Hattish goes off drops November thirteenth, only Umpeacock.
Thank you both so much.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
All right, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you
for joining us.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
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(37:31):
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