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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You know what makes me sad. That's always gonna be
in the back of his head.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
He'll never forget today.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
He'll be like, damn, I did ship.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Myself April twelfth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
He caught a bad one.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
People are gonna like ask him, like, what's the worst
thing you've ever done? And he's gonna know the answer
is shipped himself that way. But then he's gonna have
to be like, oh, I stopped talking to my mom
before she passed.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, and he was old son. I was like, that
might be like what it gets him to stop driving?
Like the kids are like, you know you can't have Carter,
you shoot yourself up the bread tax you know, you
know you can't drive it.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Remember what I had to come get you.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Something?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Recond We can't happen. I had to call work. How
at work? I'm a doctor? The home that was the home.
(01:18):
You can't look after yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You're shitty, you're someone yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And he didn't even Dad, I miss mom too.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Look, it's too much house for you.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
You can't get to the bathroom safely anymore. It's too
much dog. You're gonna have to live. We'll figure it out.
You gotta live somewhere else. You gotta live somewhere else.
So you gotta let Rick move in. That's it, that's it.
We cannot have this again. He's out. Fine, I'm look
at the accords. The corn.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
You like shit, shit everyway, isn't.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
In your face?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
A Kuala Bears are racist.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
The Layer Fos money our shipmanic turkey stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I can't tell me. You've got to lick it before
you stick it. You got to grab it before you
stab it.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Welcome little mamas and gymiles alike to another phenomenal episode
of My Mama Told Me.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
The podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets
of black inspiracy theory and.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
We finally work to prove whatever the fuck we want.
We have autonomy.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh we can do it. We can do it. We
can do whatever we want. We can do it. Put
your bag into it.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
This us and Will Ferry, who is a constant and
close collaborator.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Of truly a great friend. I called him to if.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
You think these episodes happen without Old Willy knowing about it,
he edits.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
He's our editor.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
He's our editor, and he's our confidante.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Him and Justin shout out to justin. You know what
I've been thinking.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I think the amount of black people on television peaked
in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I don't think we're ever going to get it back.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I think I think that the amount of black content,
of quality black content that they were looking for then,
I don't I don't think it'll ever be up to
those numbers.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You don't think we're ever getting a upn.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Again.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I don't think the way television works, I don't even
think we're getting a night again. Whoa, Yeah, we had
a night every every channel had a night.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Everybody had a WB Sundays or whatever.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, you could like look forward to like, oh, it's
gonna be Winans Bros.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And it's gonna be that.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It's gonna be that one white guy, white Mike who
got his own show or whatever on UPM. But that's
neither diverse DEI. Yeah, there were some DEI hires in
there for Yea.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Broona Kamars or whatever. But overall, I don't think we
ever get back to that.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I think it's interesting because I think people from our
generation hyper fixate on that because that really helped us out.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
That really helped us out a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
It really there was no lack like I think about
it as a kid, there was not really a major
lack of positive representation.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
This is the first time I've ever really thought about
it the way that you're framing it. But I think
that's so true because I've I've there's a part of
me that's always taken issue with this argument of like.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
We need more representation. I've never seen myself and it's like,
but I have you grew up in a wealth of it.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I grew up it was so wealthy with like representation
in fact that I didn't I never thought of not
having it at all. And I suppose if you are
a black woman, maybe you don't feel like you've had
as much of the wealth. It was primarily men that
were sort of flushed with the ship, but we were
flushed with the ship.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, And I mean even for women, the idea of
like girlfriends, the Parkers, moesh like all the like. He
was just like, Yeah, we grew up with such a
wealth of it that now we're like it's not that important.
But it's like not because the generation before. That's why,
regardless of what you did, what the man did. That's
why the Cosby Show was so crazy. It's such a
(05:41):
leap forward, right, you know what I mean, And that
kind of like kicked the door in for all a
different world and all the shit, but like.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
We grew up.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I think maybe the biggest representation of like the idea
of like prosperous black people on television, Yeah, and also
their sisters or whatever, where it's just like some people
in a house having some having a life.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I think even you know, the previous iterations of what
the black experience were before the Cosby Show were in
the framework of like Norman Lear, where it's like, yeah,
where it's like the extremes of blackness. It is either
ultimate poverty or in the case of the Jeffersons, it's
like supreme wealth. But it is still a commentary on
(06:29):
like the black experience as a poor person. There was
no just to your point, a regular ass group of people.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, yeah, damn yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Even the Fresh Prince, like the Fresh Prince came from
the hood, but he was like framed as like a
regular ass dude who didn't want to He didn't want
to sell drugs. He wasn't even trying to wrap in this. No, no, no, no,
he was not rap adjacent. No, he wasn't trying to
be an entertainer. No, I mean he was down to
be the fucking he worked on Ashley's, on Hillary's show.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
He wanted yeah, yeah, he wanted to be Ashley's manager. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
He was just trying to be in production. Yeah, he
trying to He was really just trying to get on.
He was trying to not go back to Philly. Yeah,
but what he means that was the whole point of this.
He was like, Bro, they beat the fuck out of you. Yeah,
I managed my little cousin. I don't care. I let
(07:26):
her talk down to me. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I just can't go back to Philly. Bro, Ashley Banks,
make up your mind. He's going platinum. Remember she had
a real song too, Yeah, Daydreaming.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
You remember the name?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh yeah? Do you do you remember? Did you ever
think Tazzy on Ali was mom and Ali's daughter.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I had heard that said, but I think my mom
had corrected it early. Okay, I think I. I don't
think that I genuinely believe that ever.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
All right, moving on, we none of us thought that,
none of us believe she was a NEPO baby.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Until two years ago.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The nepotism being getting punched in the head and then.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
No, no, no, he didn't. I didn't think her.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I'm talking about the act of getting punched in the
head somehow leading to acting opportunity.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, that's I think you're really reducing Muhammad Ali. I
don't think I am. I think you you know, think
are you not? Are you not? An all?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I'm a huge Ali guy, But I don't think his
job becomes more elevated because of Oh yeah, it was
what he did with I think he's a human being
is the elevation he was. He was so far more
exceptional than the work that he did, which is why
even when he I mean we lost him in his career,
in his prime years, yea, and we still were like,
(08:45):
now we're rooting for this person because he represents something
much greater than.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
All of this, right right, all right? I mean he
was exceptional, though, I mean the work that he you're
saying he was more exceptional than the work that he
did in The ringer in general.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Saying the work that he does in the Ring is
of no consequence to me compared to what he ultimately
did as a human being.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I get that, but you can't deny he was also
I guess that to me is what makes him so
exceptional is that he was also this incredible athlete.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
No, I'm not saying that he's not a great athlete.
I'm saying that the work itself is still just punching somebody.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I'm not going to pretend like it's not that.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Because money is the craziest thing. Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Still every single one of them has suffered like life
changing brain damage because of their experience, and that can't
go away simply because he was an exceptional person.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Right right, right.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I mean, I think you got to be kind of
a wild person to even think that that's the way.
But you get in a fight and you're like, I
could get money for this.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
Yeah, You're like, well you find.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
You watching across the street, give me a dollar. But
if I did that on TV?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah yeah, man, thank god. Do you ever have like
a boxing phase? Did you ever think you could like
get into it?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I tried in college to join up with like the
boxing club, and when I showed up the first like
three weeks, they just wanted you to run where They're like, no,
we're for real, for real training to like build something here, okay,
And so we're gonna get in shape before we even
start touching bags and like hitting each other and shit.
(10:35):
And I was like, oh, bro, this isn't what I
signed up for. No, you just want to be able
to look good shadow boxing?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I just wanted to like get get a different way
of like being active and healthy. And y'all are for
real trying to like build build fighters. And I'm gonna
be mad at you, and you're gonna be mad at me.
I'm walking away here. It is like a lot of way.
It doesn't seem like a casual hobby.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
No at all.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And I'm not I'm not convinced I was good at it.
That's fair, do you know what I mean? Like, you're
not even giving me a chance to find out if
I got like some sort of like innate ability.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, maybe there's an aptitude there, but they tried to
run it out of you.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, you're gonna make me. You're gonna make me train
five miles a day to find out. I'm I'm about
to get my ass whooped.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That is honestly, maybe you saved yourself, because that would
be hard, that would be crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I couldn't take that I was trying to get hold Yeah, yeah,
because it does seem like the best thing to take
up to get holdsy because you can't.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
You don't have to prove it.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Really, it's awesome. You just tell her, like I box
a little bit, yeah, box, Yeah, that it is a
good that's a good hole getting sport. I think it's
like probably top tier.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
You seem like a strong guy, Yeah, just off grip.
I go, all right, I'm gonna be respectful around this person.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Right, And it's like it's like difficult enough that it
weeds out a lot of people, Like I don't think
saying that you hoop is nearly as attractive as it
used to.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You know, like there's a lot of people who play
basketball regularly.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Because hoopers also are so far removed from the human
form that like, if I tell you I'm good at basketball,
you go, okay, you're good at basketball for a thirty
seven year old man who's six feet who at best
is five eleven, Like you're you are, you are what
you are, Yeah, I know what your peak is.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
No matter how good you.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Are at versus with boxing, if I tell you I
can fight.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You could be sneaky. You could be bro till you
put Floyd in front of me.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, you might be low key nice yeah yeah, because
you can't like I don't think if you saw a
tank you would think you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, damn yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Because boxing, And it does seem like I can't prove this,
but it does seem like, dude.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Who box get the best pussy? Mmm. I think it's
top to you.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I think for for a period it is, and then
it gets complicated.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
On the back end, I think the way their brains
work it healthy relationships through.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's you want to anger?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
No, no, no, I think history tells its own story
with that. Anyways, we got voicemail, Yeah, we got voicemails.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You guys keeps leasing voicemails. We keep listening to voicemails.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
It's coolest ship. We got a lot this time, we
got a lot. This one piqued my interest. And I
don't know what it we We don't listen to them
ahead of time.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I have not heard it. Is that a great strategy
for creating content? Who knows?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
It's all a surprise for us and and we'll find
out if that's worth the surprise.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
But here we go.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
This one seems exciting, So let's find out what's.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Up, love freaks. I'm calling because I realize that that
you all forming a parasocial relationship with me.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Pause, hold up on, God, damn in it listening? Relax?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
All right, who is this to say that we are
have a parasocial relationship with this persion? I don't who
are you? I think it's the first guy who called
it a little freaky. I don't like that at all. Oh,
I give you, this isn't a real relationship.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You you abused us, Yeah, and we took it, but
not anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
You did a nasty thing. You don't get to like
take ownership of this.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
We're gonna cut our hair and move to a new
city and take a spin class.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
J low enough. Yeah, maybe finally get back into painting.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
It's solving the male loneliness epidemic, and you're trying to
do that for other people. And you're trying to do
that for other men.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, I'm going to look directly at the camera and say,
we do not do this for men at all.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
What I'm thinking about you one day.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
We are men who were raised by single mothers, and
we have those tendencies. Quite frankly, when we're alone, we
often talk about how men make us uncomfortable in large groups.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
If you thought for a second that I wake up
in the day and I want to go, how can
I please the fellas your own the dogs man. That's
when I started to hate Drake, was when he was like,
I'm making music for men. I was like this, nigga, no,
I want to hear nice for what YE lie to
(15:36):
me about how you treat women? Is my position on everything.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I mean, even joking aside, I don't, I don't. I
don't really think about I don't think about sex when
we do this, though, really you don't think about sex
in what sense.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I don't think about it being directly for women or men.
I kind of just like, oh, you mean like gender. Yeah,
I feel like you're just shooting shots.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
But it does. Olivia told me recently it does. We're
pretty even. I think she said it's like fifty six
percent women, forty four percent men or someone.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
She just texted me fifty six percent female, forty three
percent male. I don't know what that missing percentage is
meant to be, but.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, you do, and you guys have a right to
exist as well, and I will fight for you politically
and physically.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Shame on me, Shame on me.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I'm right, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I really didn't
think about it. I just responded to the information I
was given, and I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Oh man, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I don't think that I think about this in a
gender sense, but I am interested, I guess in in
hearing maybe this continues for a little bit, in hearing
more about what we're doing for this loneliness epidemic.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I am.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I do think we do, if I were to really
think about it, I do think we scratch maybe an
itch for the non hyper masculine black men that you
don't hear.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
About as much social sory, right.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I think a lot of podcasts, specifically, it's a lot
of dudes, tell you, because we don't even.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Talk about like sex that much. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Maybe maybe we do because we're a little freakys or whatever,
but like, but like we don't talk about I don't
think we talk negatively about women or sexual but I
just don't think I think that there's like so much
of the podcast space, and the black podcast space is
like that, and I feel like we don't.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, we're not teaching men to be men, yea, or.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Or how to hack women or whatever that going.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And I think in that way we're jetting a little
bit of the standard. But I am curious to hear
a little bit more from this person as to what
they think we're doing, because because it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Thank you for for for forming a parasocial relationship with
me and other dudes so that we're not so lonely anymore.
I love you, David, I love you length so much.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Okay, that was It sounds like the voicemail you played
at the beginning of a rap.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Song like that. I love so much much. I'm glad.
I'm glad, bro, I'm glad, I am I'm glad that
(18:52):
you like it.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, we didn't, We certainly didn't step out of our
houses with that plan, but but we're glad that you
feel that way.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
And honestly, to hear your voice, you don't even sound
like the kind of guy I thought was involved in
that loneliness epidemic.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, and frankly, let's let's talk a little bit about
the loneliness epidemic. I think I think in some ways
and this is just my feeling. I think some of
that loneliness epidemic is man made. It is a lot
of things that while you may feel alone, you may
feel like you're disconnected from community, there is always community
(19:28):
to build, to have to find that doesn't have to
just be tethered to a podcast that you enjoy listening.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I also sometimes feel like a lot of what the
idea of the masculine man was tethered to the idea
of women being subservient or less then, so it's just
people dealing with women being equal and okay, and all
of a sudden they're like, I don't know how to
be a man anymore. And it's like, no, she could.
She could do whatever she wants.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
You can still be a man, bro, You can still
carry all that masculine energy and all that.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You just don't also have to fucking have women seem
below you.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I'm not gonna cook for you, and that's okay.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, but you could still be a man within that.
You can still lift weights or whatever.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, you can.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
You can be whatever you want to be, and you
can find a community of people who also feel exactly
the way that you feel. You just have to step
outside of yourself and frankly, this podcast enough to be
able to find those individuals.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, man, come.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
To a live show.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No, yeah, but give us your money? Yeah please, yeah,
we want your money. Keep listening.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Yeah, I'm going to say I love you, but I
appreciate your support.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I'm begging for it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I want you to find your special community and not
not only need us, I guess.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
That was weird though, because when I think about male loneliness,
this epidemic, guys, I never think it's somebody who.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Will be listening to this pocket.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Maybe it's bigger than Maybe it's bigger than I imagine it.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You know what it is? I think.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I think that as we grow, we we stretch our
arms further and further, and then you start to just
touch people that weren't originally aiming for you.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Do you know what I mean? If you reach your
arms out far enough and I'm sorry that this is
making you. I don't love the way that you were
doing your fingers. I did not like.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Okay, well I apologize it is okay, keep going, No
is it really makes it hard to keep going when
you hate it that much.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
But I.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Watched you look at my hands with an active disgust
that made me self aware even as I attempted to
land what I thought was a pretty thoughtful idea, what
I thought was a well a well shaped perspective. And
then I watched you contu.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Too. That was bro, that was my job. Masculinity is
not I thought we were. That's really what I said.
That ship flares up to me.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
That's how you know toxic masculinity is inherent, because that's
not like a learned behavior, that's just I just felt
that way about that for some reason.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Right, you haven't seen enough people wiggle their fingers to
even know if that like is something that bothers you.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
But then you found out today.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry to be the person.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
No, it's okay, man, it's about growth. We got to
learn ourselves.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I do think that maybe we are just expanding in
a way that we are touching people who did not
originally plan to be touched, and I think that that's
that's kind of nice.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I'm gonna move on. I want to be good. They
didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Think about when I said, pause, what I texted you
the other day.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Like, I'm trying should we do another one, Oh, can
we talk about this doodoo? Weeah, we didn't. We just
have to get it out. That's their.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
David and I went driving to the studio today witnessed
something you don't witness often.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
It was incredible.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
It was incredible because we were riding a high because
you had gotten in that altercation of that with that lady.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And I laughed in her face. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It was very funny. A woman yelled at him on
the street for driving into the intersection.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
To make a right turn when when she was very
far from from the actual.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Too far to have any opinion on what he was.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Doing, would not have made it in time to cross
the street either way, but was just angry at the
concept of me having crossed the crosswalk before the green light.
And she said what she said, you asshole, You're not
supposed to do that.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
You how did you say? You have to just recreate
what you said? She said?
Speaker 1 (24:04):
She said, she said, hey, asshole, you're not supposed to
do that. And I rolled down the window. I poked
my head out and I said, you talk nice, Yeah,
you talk nice to me.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You'd be nice. You're talking nasty. You're being mean.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
You're a nasty lady. And then she kept cursing. She said,
fuck you, fuck you. You're not supposed to do that.
You're a piece of shit. And then she got so
afraid of I think the interaction, even as I just
kept screaming, you'd be nice, you'd be nice, you.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Didn't raise his tone either, which was that was the
coldest part about it, the best part.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And then she got so afraid of just me, I guess,
sort of doing whatever I was doing that she decided
to move in a different direction. But but then as
you also yelled out, though she yelled out as I
pulled off, I said, you'd be nice, you work on yourself.
As I pulled off, she said, I hate you.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I hate you. So we were riding that high. We
were doing great.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
We were in the car. We were so funny. We
were riding that Hi, it's hilarious, what a funny confrontation.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
And we.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Dropped fast, I believe, a white hando cord with the
door open, a man leaning over, and it's like, you know,
when something awesome, it is so awesome.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You can't cute immediately.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
It took me like two seconds past and we both
kind of were like, I think I just should.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Have said he was covered to he was covered.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
He had dookie so far up his back like an infant,
like like an infant child.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
He had ship through.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
And we have to be clear because some of you
are gonna be thinking to yourself, well, maybe this was
ann house person.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Maybe this was a person in needing.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
You guys are laughing at a person at their own
at their own expense.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
That is not the case. That's why he was so good.
This was just a god. This was a regular man
who's a guy who has a car, who.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Was driving down the street, lost control of insanis.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Ship everywhere. This ship looks like a new continent. And
he was wearing white underwear.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, white underwear, and you could just see it up
his fucking back. It was It was a nightmare. It
was the worst ship. I've ever seen a person. Yeah
I have, and I've seen somebody ship on the street.
I have two children, Yeah, oh, I have two children.
I've never seen anything. I've seen things like that on children.
(26:47):
I've never seen that much dookie per coage.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So bro mid back, dukie mid back.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Your fro was covered in it. I wouldn't be surprised
we pulled up here at what noon? I wouldn't be
surpris as if he's still there cleaning.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
No, they had to call the fire department. He couldn't
save himself.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
He was and I think the best part was we
had seen the beginning of it, so he was he was.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
What he was discovery like this, what have I done?
(27:35):
Oh man? Oh me, oh my, the worst is happened.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
You want to call you one?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
That's the thing he's thinking about who he has to
call because this can't He's like, can I keep this private?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And it's so much that he can't. He needs would
you call your would you call your wife? If you
you're that man?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Bro, I don't know what I would do me either,
think Okay, if I'm being honest, I think what I
would do is I would.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Fuck man. I think if I were that man, I
would get back in my car.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Yes, because we could see everybody could see.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I would not be cleaning myself outside my car. I
would get back in my car, and I think I
would just sacrifice my car to my cleanliness, meaning I
would like figure out a way to remove as much
duchie from myself inside of my car and then go
to whatever close place where I can maybe you know, shower,
(28:38):
wash myself.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Anything, right, but you saw it. It was so much.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
It was so much that like, here's his car is ruined.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Here would be the worry for me is that, like
I almost feel like you gotta go home. You got
I don't know where he lives, but you gotta like
just drive home because if you're trying to you can't.
What do you what are you gonna put? You can't
peel it? It was everywhere, y'all.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
No, he's not.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Let me be clear, I don't believe him to be
going to wherever he thought he was going.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Now right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Like, I don't think he's still gonna be able to
like hit the spot and play cool. I think that's
a that's a day's work. He's got ahead of him
one way or the other. But I'm saying that, like,
ultimately I would feel the need to clean myself before
I even stepped foot.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
In my own home. That's fair. I could not arrive
to my family with that much doochie on me. You
wouldn't call Nikki get the hoss.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
We gotta still love each other man again, I still
need this. I've committed to life with this person.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I can't risk that.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, wow, that's I like that. You put the steaks
his life. It is life steaks.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
This is life stakes for him.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
And we drove pass giggling like bitches.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Oh my god, I haven't laughed that hard in a minute.
That was because it's so funny, because we both realized
that exactly so much shit.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
But we also realized that we weren't even laughing at
the first peats.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
We weren't just like, oh, he shipped himself.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
And then it wasn't until like a block later that
we were like, yo.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
So funny. That was crazy, That was insane.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Oh man, all right, We probably gave too much time
to that, but I just had to get it out.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Well, you you were right to bring it up. We
need to take a break. We're gonna come back. We're
gonna do another voicemail more David Moore Langston more.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Ma Mama told me.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
But we're gonna do this respectfully, otherwise we'll end in
a duel, and I mean a duel, real life duel.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
We're only one person walks away.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
We can meet with guns, bottles, knives, or books and equations,
but we're gonna do this like man, so get ready.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
We are back that with a clip that is in
no way foreshadowing.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Here to listen to another voicemail.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
After a long, long talk about Dookie.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
We talked about Dookie for longer than we probably should.
But but that's not our problem. We're enjoying ourselves.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
It's just what we were going through at the time.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, I tell you to sell Dookie. All right, here
we go. We got another voicemail. Let's listen to this one.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
Hi, David, Hi lind. I want to say I appreciate
the podcast, very enlightening, and I do want to say
I know that.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
You do.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Read and also research a lot. I know that you
also read, and I've been fans of you and not
really know it until i've actually like started to watch.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Pause turn it down. This is too much.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, you don't know what we read and don't read.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I trust you. It's not as much as you think.
I'll tell you this. I read a lot at a point. Yeah,
I haven't done that in a while. It was going
to eighth grade. I wanted free pizza. Yeah, I got smart.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I got smart for a time and then I really
checked out after that.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I think you could kind of just front load it though,
like smart shit, you just I think if you go
real hard on the smart ship till twenty seven, probably
I think you.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I think you can be just sort of smart enough
for the rest of your life and not have to
really worry about too many things.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I've gone very far on a high school education. I'm
on college, but I ain't do the work. Yeah, I
was like, I worked hard in high school.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I was at the innermural gym a lot.
Speaker 8 (33:09):
All right, well, excuse me watch and listening to the
podcast anyway. My mom has told me a few organ
music that typically people that are late bloomers in high school,
specifically as a loner black ones who are just not
(33:32):
very social and unattractive during that awful time typically tend
to be uh the social butterflies flash pretty attractive when
they get older. I mean that, I personally, for myself,
very awkward, didn't talk to.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
A lot of people.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
But as I've gotten older, I feel though I've become
much really attractive.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I like that she's like speaking for myself. Yeah, had
a hard time, but now I'm fine, and shit, yeah
I grew up.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I don't believe this. I think this is a big
This is a lie, big ugly is pushing out. I
I want you to think that there's some secret virtue
to be.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I can't even get it out. I understand wanting to
think this, but I think it might just be some
people are just sour and don't like people, and some
people are not social, and some people never grow into that.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
I don't think we got to stop caring about what
happened in high school, bro.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I do think I think sometimes we put a lot
of stock into what people were in high school in
a way that probably isn't true, even for the people
that lived the experience, even the people who we.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Were like, man, he fucking he was the best in
high school. He was so cool?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Like how much of that was that person also experiencing
as like the championship were framing it as and how
much of it was like I don't know. They had
their insecurities and their shit they were working through and
not really like celebrating the way we think they were.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
They were fourteen to eighteen. Yeah, and if you were
the greatest that you were from fourteen to eighteen, you
blew it.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I'm sorry, I was pretty cool in high school, but
I wasn't. No, But I just mean like I wasn't
like I wasn't the king of the school by any means, right,
But I was cool enough that everybody fucked with me.
I didn't have any of like that weird shit of
being bullied or like outcasted in any way. I got
along with everybody. Everybody was like, no, Liston's a cool dude.
(35:32):
But also, you know what I mean, Like, it's not
like I looked at the people who were being bullied
down like now those are the sexy ones now, yeah,
like the niggas that were sexy in high school still
kind of.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Are Yeah yeah, I mean are you are you gonna
go to your twentieth I'm tempted.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
It's it feels also like a complete waste now that
I like have a family.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Oh, interesting, you're not gonna but you're trying to go
clean up unfinished business.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
No, it's not that, although that would be nice, I'm saying,
like I'm thinking more just like the idea that I
would have to like bring my whole family to Chicago
so that I could go to my high school reunion
feels like excess. It feels like what am I doing
that for? But on the flip side, maybe I'm doing
(36:28):
it because those people did make a meaningful imprint on
a major part of my life for a long time.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
You know what I mean, Are you gonna go? I
don't think so. Stop pushing it right now. I don't.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I don't really Did you go to your ten I
just don't.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I think that I went to So I went to
high schools, but the one I went to mostly was
a smaller school. So they all went to school with
each other because it was in a small area. They
all went to school with each other like their whole life. Yeah,
I got there halfway through ninth grade and I left
home halfway through twelfth grade. So it's like I think
(37:07):
sometimes they kind of group you in as having grown
up with them forever, and it's like, oh, I wasn't
really around as much as you thought, Because sometimes I'll
talk to you a buddy from high school, be like,
remember in seventh grade, I'm no I was.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Oh, They're like, oh I thought you were more a
part of our community than you actually are.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Or not that or maybe and maybe that's me too,
just having a very transient, transient life. Maybe it doesn't
have as big an impact on me either.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
M that like the things that could have meant something
would would maybe you know, not as important to you
as you thought. Yeah, don't damn I yeah, huh. Let's
keep listening because I feel like, you know, maybe she
she has she's saying she.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Had her glow up.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Let's see if there's other examples.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
What I've been told also, and you know, pretty popular,
but that comes with strange stereotypes and things like that and.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Some that are made.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Here's my issue. I don't she sounds fine as hell.
She does sound fine. I can tell she fine, But
I don't like grown ups being popular, you know what
I mean? Like, what is that? You don't like it?
But that's real? Is it? Do you think they're a
popular grown up? Yeah? Nigga, what are we trying to do?
Speaker 9 (38:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'm saying there's there's there's popular people in
every single social situation.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
You're saying, regardless of celebrity. Celebrity to me is a
different thing.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I think I think that there's popular people at work.
You never had a job where there's just like everybody
loves Rick. Yes, I think I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Think it ever changed.
Speaker 10 (38:42):
You think that continues to yah and I think whereas
a lot of people don't maybe get more successful in
their life, I think a lot of people who there's
a lot of people who are naturally popular who stay
not naturally popular.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yeah, I think that that. I think, Yeah, I don't
think that ever changes. I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I think you can change your trajectory and how you
fit in it, like this fine ass lady, right. I
think I think that that's and I think I think
that's why high school is such a bad barometer, because
you're literally a kid, right, you're fourteen to eighteen. So yeah,
of course you could flip how you what your dynamic is.
But yeah, I think there's I don't think I've ever
(39:20):
been in a situation there's popular people in prison, there's
there's true there's you know.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
What I mean, You're right, I'm I'm maybe being a
little shortsighted when I question the use of popularity. I
think it to me rings of a childishness. I guess
is maybe the most pejorative way to say it. But
like that that I don't love. But I also recognize
to your point that regardless of whether or not it
is child brain, it is the way that we live
(39:46):
as people.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah, I think that. And I think one reason maybe
that people I'm just I'm just thinking this now. I
think one reason maybe that people to put so much
emphasis on who they were in high school is high
school is like the roles that are defined. There are
kind of the roles that that you will see throughout life.
(40:07):
What your role is Like you could move around because
you're fourteen eighteen and you're figuring yourself out, but.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
The role still.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
But the actual that there's always going to be a
class clown, there's always going to be a popular kid.
There's always going to be a classrooms. Look, there's also
you know what I'm saying, like all that all that
are the jocks, the all the things exist. Whether you
buy into it for yourself is the question in who
you ultimately end up being. Maybe you are a popular kid,
but then you didn't have the confidants or whatever. But
(40:35):
those basic like kind of social archetypes. I don't know
why I said classroom slut. That wasn't nice, But those architects.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Think slut has to be just girls. That's true.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I think there were boy sluts, yeah a lot. Yeah,
I think it can be everybody.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
But the point is, like I think that that's when
those kind of stick around forever. And I think because
people constantly see those, that's why they tie so much
of their high school identity to themselves, where it's just
like now it's just who you were, then you could
be whoever, but it's like that is kind of who
people are.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I get that. Let's let's keep listening.
Speaker 8 (41:10):
But yeah, uh, the weird pro black girls, well not
socially pro black girl that time became super radicalized without
needing to go to college. Specifically for me, based on
the depth of Treyvon Martin and with that social awareness,
I was not older have become extremely radicalized, super pro black,
(41:35):
and super social. But because I live in Atlanta sometimes
so niggas don't hear this. So see Organdy and yeah,
I'd like to hear y'all about it.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Hey, how yo, okay, audios, it's crazy that Trayvon got
you fine, not gonna riff on it.
Speaker 9 (42:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
As soon as it came out of my mouth, I
was like, this is a missake. Yeah you did.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
You did the best joke that could come out of that.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
It was the best joke that could come out of it.
It's not because it's the thing. There's no there's no
morality in humor. Sometimes we're just gonna say bad stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, that's why I cut myself off. I was like, no,
everything I'm thinking is is not good.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
And you were smart because I think we could get
away with just that part. Had it expanded, that's when
it would have been real.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
That we've been doing this art the same amount of time.
I felt it, You felt it. Yeah, we all walked
away clean.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yeah, we're getting good. We're getting good at podcasting. Boy.
Uh no, man, uh yeah, I don't know. I feel
like she seems like maybe there's a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
I will say that the addition of the Trayvon Martin
sort of like information inside of this feels like you
became more activated in a community that learned to love
you as you. Oh that's a good point, you you
know what I mean that Like previously maybe you were
sort of like not fully activating your voice or not
fully inside of your skin the way that you wanted
(43:17):
to be. And then as you became more in your skin,
you became more beautiful because of that, right right, Like
this isn't but you yeah, like and more people who
look like you, or at least like connect to you,
are able to now see you as beautiful, whereas previously
maybe you felt like, well, I'm I'm I don't know
(43:37):
who I am, and I'm so I'm surrounding myself with
a bunch of people who don't see me the way
I want to be seen, and boom here I am.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
I get that because that's how I felt like in
high school, right, because I went to a regular school
and then I transferred to a super rural, mostly white
people's school, and it was like I was, like, am
I like the last half of high school? I had
my friends from my old school still, but like I
was the only person who like listen to the music
that I did, like really like cultural touchdowns that I kept,
(44:07):
And I think that caused me to be very confused
on my place within blackness. So I get that. But
also I understand being radicalized. I never thought about the
idea of what if all that stuff happened when you were.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
In high school?
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Yeah, that's crazy, Like there were kids who went were
in high school like during the Floyd protests, and.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Like, yeah, we didn't have any.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
We didn't have any crazy black stuff in our high
school years, we had national shit.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
We had not a national shit, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Which was jarring in a multitude of ways.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
But it did not feel personal though. No.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
And it was the first time I would say, as
a kid where I truly did feel like that patriotism worked,
do you know what I mean? Like every other time
that patriotism got presented as like we're all coming together
as a country, it was like big swaths of the
country they'd be like, no, not us, We're not a
part of that. But like nine to eleven was like
(45:06):
everybody was into America for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Did that make you nervous though, because I always felt
othered on that. I remember that nine to eleven happened.
And then this kid, Mohammed this is my first high
school he got hit. He got hit by a car
in the school parking lot like a week later. I
remember he didn't even think it was anything. I was like, oh, no, man,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah, because because that was the white people timing just
were so crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I never thought it
would move to in my favor, but I'd be lying
if I said that.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
It immediately scared me the day, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (45:44):
The first, like we got a flock run I know something.
There was a part of me that was like, maybe
we do. I was fourteen, Yeah, see what's crazy. I
didn't rally around. I just I just was able to
see the shift, and I was like, this is great.
It was like because I remember I never really heard
the word patriot before that shit happened, and then all
(46:05):
of a sudden everybody was saying it.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
You could tell people were scared. That shit made me
feel that was the fear of nine to eleven for me.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
No that that, I think I felt far more fear
than I felt activism is my point. But I'm saying
that I believed the unit, the unity for a moment.
There was a moment where it did feel unified. And
then you spend you know, a few weeks, frankly sort
of like watching the new interpretations of whose responsibility this
(46:36):
is and how we should treat the people who we
claim to be responsible, and you go, oh, no, no,
this isn't this isn't that, this is not unity. This
was just a reaction to, to frankly, one of the
more horrifying things that could happen to a country.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
I mean, ultimately, we're glad you got fine as hell. Yeah, congratulates,
that's really good.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I don't know. Keep doing the good work, keep keep
on keeping on, keep on being fun and popular and yeah,
and looking out for Trey von Martin audios.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
You want to tell people what you're doing where they
can go, Oh, yeah, you can. That's the whole thing.
We're done. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
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You can. You can watch my special it's called Bad Poetry.
It's on Netflix. You can watch Everybody's Live with John
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Speaker 2 (48:37):
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You know what makes me sad. That's always gonna be
in the back of his head.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
He'll never forget today.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
He'll be like, damn, I did ship.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Myself April twelfth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
He caught a bad one.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
People are gonna like ask him, like, what's the worst
thing you've ever done? And he's gonna know the answer
is shipped himself that way. But then he's gonna have
to be like, oh, I stopped talking to my mom
before she passed.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, and he was old son. I was like, that
might be like what it gets him to stop driving?
Like the kids are like, you know you can't have Carter,
you shoot yourself up the bread tax you know, you
know you can't drive it.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Remember what I had to come get you.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Something?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Recond We can't happen. I had to call work. How
at work? I'm a doctor? The home that was the home.
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You can't look after yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You're shitty, you're someone yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And he didn't even Dad, I miss mom too.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Look, it's too much house for you.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
You can't get to the bathroom safely anymore. It's too
much dog. You're gonna have to live. We'll figure it out.
You gotta live somewhere else. You gotta live somewhere else.
So you gotta let Rick move in. That's it, that's it.
We cannot have this again. He's out. Fine, I'm look
at the accords. The corn.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
You like shit, shit everyway, isn't.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
In your face?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
A Kuala Bears are racist.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
The Layer Fos money our shipmanic turkey stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I can't tell me. You've got to lick it before
you stick it. You got to grab it before you
stab it.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Welcome little mamas and gymiles alike to another phenomenal episode
of My Mama Told Me.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
The podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets
of black inspiracy theory and.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
We finally work to prove whatever the fuck we want.
We have autonomy.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh we can do it. We can do it. We
can do whatever we want. We can do it. Put
your bag into it.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
This us and Will Ferry, who is a constant and
close collaborator.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Of truly a great friend. I called him to if.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
You think these episodes happen without Old Willy knowing about it,
he edits.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
He's our editor.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
He's our editor, and he's our confidante.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Him and Justin shout out to justin. You know what
I've been thinking.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I think the amount of black people on television peaked
in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I don't think we're ever going to get it back.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I think I think that the amount of black content,
of quality black content that they were looking for then,
I don't I don't think it'll ever be up to
those numbers.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You don't think we're ever getting a upn.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Again.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I don't think the way television works, I don't even
think we're getting a night again. Whoa, Yeah, we had
a night every every channel had a night.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Everybody had a WB Sundays or whatever.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, you could like look forward to like, oh, it's
gonna be Winans Bros.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And it's gonna be that.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It's gonna be that one white guy, white Mike who
got his own show or whatever on UPM. But that's
neither diverse DEI. Yeah, there were some DEI hires in
there for Yea.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Broona Kamars or whatever. But overall, I don't think we
ever get back to that.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I think it's interesting because I think people from our
generation hyper fixate on that because that really helped us out.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
That really helped us out a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
It really there was no lack like I think about
it as a kid, there was not really a major
lack of positive representation.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
This is the first time I've ever really thought about
it the way that you're framing it. But I think
that's so true because I've I've there's a part of
me that's always taken issue with this argument of like.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
We need more representation. I've never seen myself and it's like,
but I have you grew up in a wealth of it.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I grew up it was so wealthy with like representation
in fact that I didn't I never thought of not
having it at all. And I suppose if you are
a black woman, maybe you don't feel like you've had
as much of the wealth. It was primarily men that
were sort of flushed with the ship, but we were
flushed with the ship.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, And I mean even for women, the idea of
like girlfriends, the Parkers, moesh like all the like. He
was just like, Yeah, we grew up with such a
wealth of it that now we're like it's not that important.
But it's like not because the generation before. That's why,
regardless of what you did, what the man did. That's
why the Cosby Show was so crazy. It's such a
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leap forward, right, you know what I mean, And that
kind of like kicked the door in for all a
different world and all the shit, but like.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
We grew up.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I think maybe the biggest representation of like the idea
of like prosperous black people on television, Yeah, and also
their sisters or whatever, where it's just like some people
in a house having some having a life.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I think even you know, the previous iterations of what
the black experience were before the Cosby Show were in
the framework of like Norman Lear, where it's like, yeah,
where it's like the extremes of blackness. It is either
ultimate poverty or in the case of the Jeffersons, it's
like supreme wealth. But it is still a commentary on
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like the black experience as a poor person. There was
no just to your point, a regular ass group of people.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, yeah, damn yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Even the Fresh Prince, like the Fresh Prince came from
the hood, but he was like framed as like a
regular ass dude who didn't want to He didn't want
to sell drugs. He wasn't even trying to wrap in this. No, no, no, no,
he was not rap adjacent. No, he wasn't trying to
be an entertainer. No, I mean he was down to
be the fucking he worked on Ashley's, on Hillary's show.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
He wanted yeah, yeah, he wanted to be Ashley's manager. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
He was just trying to be in production. Yeah, he
trying to He was really just trying to get on.
He was trying to not go back to Philly. Yeah,
but what he means that was the whole point of this.
He was like, Bro, they beat the fuck out of you. Yeah,
I managed my little cousin. I don't care. I let
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her talk down to me. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I just can't go back to Philly. Bro, Ashley Banks,
make up your mind. He's going platinum. Remember she had
a real song too, Yeah, Daydreaming.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
You remember the name?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh yeah? Do you do you remember? Did you ever
think Tazzy on Ali was mom and Ali's daughter.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I had heard that said, but I think my mom
had corrected it early. Okay, I think I. I don't
think that I genuinely believe that ever.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
All right, moving on, we none of us thought that,
none of us believe she was a NEPO baby.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Until two years ago.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The nepotism being getting punched in the head and then.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
No, no, no, he didn't. I didn't think her.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I'm talking about the act of getting punched in the
head somehow leading to acting opportunity.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, that's I think you're really reducing Muhammad Ali. I
don't think I am. I think you you know, think
are you not? Are you not? An all?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I'm a huge Ali guy, But I don't think his
job becomes more elevated because of Oh yeah, it was
what he did with I think he's a human being
is the elevation he was. He was so far more
exceptional than the work that he did, which is why
even when he I mean we lost him in his career,
in his prime years, yea, and we still were like,
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now we're rooting for this person because he represents something
much greater than.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
All of this, right right, all right? I mean he
was exceptional, though, I mean the work that he you're
saying he was more exceptional than the work that he
did in The ringer in general.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Saying the work that he does in the Ring is
of no consequence to me compared to what he ultimately
did as a human being.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I get that, but you can't deny he was also
I guess that to me is what makes him so
exceptional is that he was also this incredible athlete.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
No, I'm not saying that he's not a great athlete.
I'm saying that the work itself is still just punching somebody.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I'm not going to pretend like it's not that.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Because money is the craziest thing. Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Still every single one of them has suffered like life
changing brain damage because of their experience, and that can't
go away simply because he was an exceptional person.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Right right, right.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I mean, I think you got to be kind of
a wild person to even think that that's the way.
But you get in a fight and you're like, I
could get money for this.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
Yeah, You're like, well you find.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
You watching across the street, give me a dollar. But
if I did that on TV?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah yeah, man, thank god. Do you ever have like
a boxing phase? Did you ever think you could like
get into it?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I tried in college to join up with like the
boxing club, and when I showed up the first like
three weeks, they just wanted you to run where They're like, no,
we're for real, for real training to like build something here, okay,
And so we're gonna get in shape before we even
start touching bags and like hitting each other and shit.
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And I was like, oh, bro, this isn't what I
signed up for. No, you just want to be able
to look good shadow boxing?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I just wanted to like get get a different way
of like being active and healthy. And y'all are for
real trying to like build build fighters. And I'm gonna
be mad at you, and you're gonna be mad at me.
I'm walking away here. It is like a lot of way.
It doesn't seem like a casual hobby.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
No at all.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And I'm not I'm not convinced I was good at it.
That's fair, do you know what I mean? Like, you're
not even giving me a chance to find out if
I got like some sort of like innate ability.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, maybe there's an aptitude there, but they tried to
run it out of you.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, you're gonna make me. You're gonna make me train
five miles a day to find out. I'm I'm about
to get my ass whooped.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That is honestly, maybe you saved yourself, because that would
be hard, that would be crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I couldn't take that I was trying to get hold Yeah, yeah,
because it does seem like the best thing to take
up to get holdsy because you can't.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
You don't have to prove it.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Really, it's awesome. You just tell her, like I box
a little bit, yeah, box, Yeah, that it is a
good that's a good hole getting sport. I think it's
like probably top tier.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
You seem like a strong guy, Yeah, just off grip.
I go, all right, I'm gonna be respectful around this person.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Right, And it's like it's like difficult enough that it
weeds out a lot of people, Like I don't think
saying that you hoop is nearly as attractive as it
used to.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You know, like there's a lot of people who play
basketball regularly.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Because hoopers also are so far removed from the human
form that like, if I tell you I'm good at basketball,
you go, okay, you're good at basketball for a thirty
seven year old man who's six feet who at best
is five eleven, Like you're you are, you are what
you are, Yeah, I know what your peak is.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
No matter how good you.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Are at versus with boxing, if I tell you I
can fight.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You could be sneaky. You could be bro till you
put Floyd in front of me.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, you might be low key nice yeah yeah, because
you can't like I don't think if you saw a
tank you would think you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, damn yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Because boxing, And it does seem like I can't prove this,
but it does seem like, dude.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Who box get the best pussy? Mmm. I think it's
top to you.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I think for for a period it is, and then
it gets complicated.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
On the back end, I think the way their brains
work it healthy relationships through.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's you want to anger?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
No, no, no, I think history tells its own story
with that. Anyways, we got voicemail, Yeah, we got voicemails.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You guys keeps leasing voicemails. We keep listening to voicemails.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
It's coolest ship. We got a lot this time, we
got a lot. This one piqued my interest. And I
don't know what it we We don't listen to them
ahead of time.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I have not heard it. Is that a great strategy
for creating content? Who knows?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
It's all a surprise for us and and we'll find
out if that's worth the surprise.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
But here we go.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
This one seems exciting, So let's find out what's.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Up, love freaks. I'm calling because I realize that that
you all forming a parasocial relationship with me.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Pause, hold up on, God, damn in it listening? Relax?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
All right, who is this to say that we are
have a parasocial relationship with this persion? I don't who
are you? I think it's the first guy who called
it a little freaky. I don't like that at all. Oh,
I give you, this isn't a real relationship.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You you abused us, Yeah, and we took it, but
not anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
You did a nasty thing. You don't get to like
take ownership of this.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
We're gonna cut our hair and move to a new
city and take a spin class.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
J low enough. Yeah, maybe finally get back into painting.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
It's solving the male loneliness epidemic, and you're trying to
do that for other people. And you're trying to do
that for other men.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, I'm going to look directly at the camera and say,
we do not do this for men at all.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
What I'm thinking about you one day.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
We are men who were raised by single mothers, and
we have those tendencies. Quite frankly, when we're alone, we
often talk about how men make us uncomfortable in large groups.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
If you thought for a second that I wake up
in the day and I want to go, how can
I please the fellas your own the dogs man. That's
when I started to hate Drake, was when he was like,
I'm making music for men. I was like this, nigga, no,
I want to hear nice for what YE lie to
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me about how you treat women? Is my position on everything.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I mean, even joking aside, I don't, I don't. I
don't really think about I don't think about sex when
we do this, though, really you don't think about sex
in what sense.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I don't think about it being directly for women or men.
I kind of just like, oh, you mean like gender. Yeah,
I feel like you're just shooting shots.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
But it does. Olivia told me recently it does. We're
pretty even. I think she said it's like fifty six
percent women, forty four percent men or someone.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
She just texted me fifty six percent female, forty three
percent male. I don't know what that missing percentage is
meant to be, but.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, you do, and you guys have a right to
exist as well, and I will fight for you politically
and physically.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Shame on me, Shame on me.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I'm right, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I really didn't
think about it. I just responded to the information I
was given, and I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Oh man, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I don't think that I think about this in a
gender sense, but I am interested, I guess in in
hearing maybe this continues for a little bit, in hearing
more about what we're doing for this loneliness epidemic.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I am.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I do think we do, if I were to really
think about it, I do think we scratch maybe an
itch for the non hyper masculine black men that you
don't hear.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
About as much social sory, right.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I think a lot of podcasts, specifically, it's a lot
of dudes, tell you, because we don't even.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Talk about like sex that much. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Maybe maybe we do because we're a little freakys or whatever,
but like, but like we don't talk about I don't
think we talk negatively about women or sexual but I
just don't think I think that there's like so much
of the podcast space, and the black podcast space is
like that, and I feel like we don't.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, we're not teaching men to be men, yea, or.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Or how to hack women or whatever that going.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And I think in that way we're jetting a little
bit of the standard. But I am curious to hear
a little bit more from this person as to what
they think we're doing, because because it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Thank you for for for forming a parasocial relationship with
me and other dudes so that we're not so lonely anymore.
I love you, David, I love you length so much.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Okay, that was It sounds like the voicemail you played
at the beginning of a rap.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Song like that. I love so much much. I'm glad.
I'm glad, bro, I'm glad, I am I'm glad that
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you like it.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, we didn't, We certainly didn't step out of our
houses with that plan, but but we're glad that you
feel that way.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
And honestly, to hear your voice, you don't even sound
like the kind of guy I thought was involved in
that loneliness epidemic.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, and frankly, let's let's talk a little bit about
the loneliness epidemic. I think I think in some ways
and this is just my feeling. I think some of
that loneliness epidemic is man made. It is a lot
of things that while you may feel alone, you may
feel like you're disconnected from community, there is always community
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to build, to have to find that doesn't have to
just be tethered to a podcast that you enjoy listening.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I also sometimes feel like a lot of what the
idea of the masculine man was tethered to the idea
of women being subservient or less then, so it's just
people dealing with women being equal and okay, and all
of a sudden they're like, I don't know how to
be a man anymore. And it's like, no, she could.
She could do whatever she wants.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
You can still be a man, bro, You can still
carry all that masculine energy and all that.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You just don't also have to fucking have women seem
below you.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I'm not gonna cook for you, and that's okay.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, but you could still be a man within that.
You can still lift weights or whatever.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, you can.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
You can be whatever you want to be, and you
can find a community of people who also feel exactly
the way that you feel. You just have to step
outside of yourself and frankly, this podcast enough to be
able to find those individuals.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, man, come.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
To a live show.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No, yeah, but give us your money? Yeah please, yeah,
we want your money. Keep listening.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Yeah, I'm going to say I love you, but I
appreciate your support.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I'm begging for it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I want you to find your special community and not
not only need us, I guess.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
That was weird though, because when I think about male loneliness,
this epidemic, guys, I never think it's somebody who.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Will be listening to this pocket.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Maybe it's bigger than Maybe it's bigger than I imagine it.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You know what it is? I think.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I think that as we grow, we we stretch our
arms further and further, and then you start to just
touch people that weren't originally aiming for you.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Do you know what I mean? If you reach your
arms out far enough and I'm sorry that this is
making you. I don't love the way that you were
doing your fingers. I did not like.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Okay, well I apologize it is okay, keep going, No
is it really makes it hard to keep going when
you hate it that much.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
But I.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Watched you look at my hands with an active disgust
that made me self aware even as I attempted to
land what I thought was a pretty thoughtful idea, what
I thought was a well a well shaped perspective. And
then I watched you contu.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Too. That was bro, that was my job. Masculinity is
not I thought we were. That's really what I said.
That ship flares up to me.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
That's how you know toxic masculinity is inherent, because that's
not like a learned behavior, that's just I just felt
that way about that for some reason.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Right, you haven't seen enough people wiggle their fingers to
even know if that like is something that bothers you.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
But then you found out today.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry to be the person.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
No, it's okay, man, it's about growth. We got to
learn ourselves.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I do think that maybe we are just expanding in
a way that we are touching people who did not
originally plan to be touched, and I think that that's
that's kind of nice.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I'm gonna move on. I want to be good. They
didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Think about when I said, pause, what I texted you
the other day.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Like, I'm trying should we do another one, Oh, can
we talk about this doodoo? Weeah, we didn't. We just
have to get it out. That's their.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
David and I went driving to the studio today witnessed
something you don't witness often.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
It was incredible.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
It was incredible because we were riding a high because
you had gotten in that altercation of that with that lady.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And I laughed in her face. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It was very funny. A woman yelled at him on
the street for driving into the intersection.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
To make a right turn when when she was very
far from from the actual.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Too far to have any opinion on what he was.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Doing, would not have made it in time to cross
the street either way, but was just angry at the
concept of me having crossed the crosswalk before the green light.
And she said what she said, you asshole, You're not
supposed to do that.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
You how did you say? You have to just recreate
what you said? She said?
Speaker 1 (24:04):
She said, she said, hey, asshole, you're not supposed to
do that. And I rolled down the window. I poked
my head out and I said, you talk nice, Yeah,
you talk nice to me.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You'd be nice. You're talking nasty. You're being mean.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
You're a nasty lady. And then she kept cursing. She said,
fuck you, fuck you. You're not supposed to do that.
You're a piece of shit. And then she got so
afraid of I think the interaction, even as I just
kept screaming, you'd be nice, you'd be nice, you.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Didn't raise his tone either, which was that was the
coldest part about it, the best part.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And then she got so afraid of just me, I guess,
sort of doing whatever I was doing that she decided
to move in a different direction. But but then as
you also yelled out, though she yelled out as I
pulled off, I said, you'd be nice, you work on yourself.
As I pulled off, she said, I hate you.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I hate you. So we were riding that high. We
were doing great.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
We were in the car. We were so funny. We
were riding that Hi, it's hilarious, what a funny confrontation.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
And we.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Dropped fast, I believe, a white hando cord with the
door open, a man leaning over, and it's like, you know,
when something awesome, it is so awesome.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You can't cute immediately.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
It took me like two seconds past and we both
kind of were like, I think I just should.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Have said he was covered to he was covered.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
He had dookie so far up his back like an infant,
like like an infant child.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
He had ship through.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
And we have to be clear because some of you
are gonna be thinking to yourself, well, maybe this was
ann house person.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Maybe this was a person in needing.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
You guys are laughing at a person at their own
at their own expense.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
That is not the case. That's why he was so good.
This was just a god. This was a regular man
who's a guy who has a car, who.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Was driving down the street, lost control of insanis.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Ship everywhere. This ship looks like a new continent. And
he was wearing white underwear.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, white underwear, and you could just see it up
his fucking back. It was It was a nightmare. It
was the worst ship. I've ever seen a person. Yeah
I have, and I've seen somebody ship on the street.
I have two children, Yeah, oh, I have two children.
I've never seen anything. I've seen things like that on children.
(26:47):
I've never seen that much dookie per coage.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So bro mid back, dukie mid back.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Your fro was covered in it. I wouldn't be surprised
we pulled up here at what noon? I wouldn't be
surpris as if he's still there cleaning.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
No, they had to call the fire department. He couldn't
save himself.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
He was and I think the best part was we
had seen the beginning of it, so he was he was.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
What he was discovery like this, what have I done?
(27:35):
Oh man? Oh me, oh my, the worst is happened.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
You want to call you one?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
That's the thing he's thinking about who he has to
call because this can't He's like, can I keep this private?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And it's so much that he can't. He needs would
you call your would you call your wife? If you
you're that man?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Bro, I don't know what I would do me either,
think Okay, if I'm being honest, I think what I
would do is I would.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Fuck man. I think if I were that man, I
would get back in my car.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Yes, because we could see everybody could see.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I would not be cleaning myself outside my car. I
would get back in my car, and I think I
would just sacrifice my car to my cleanliness, meaning I
would like figure out a way to remove as much
duchie from myself inside of my car and then go
to whatever close place where I can maybe you know, shower,
(28:38):
wash myself.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Anything, right, but you saw it. It was so much.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
It was so much that like, here's his car is ruined.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Here would be the worry for me is that, like
I almost feel like you gotta go home. You got
I don't know where he lives, but you gotta like
just drive home because if you're trying to you can't.
What do you what are you gonna put? You can't
peel it? It was everywhere, y'all.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
No, he's not.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Let me be clear, I don't believe him to be
going to wherever he thought he was going.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Now right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Like, I don't think he's still gonna be able to
like hit the spot and play cool. I think that's
a that's a day's work. He's got ahead of him
one way or the other. But I'm saying that, like,
ultimately I would feel the need to clean myself before
I even stepped foot.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
In my own home. That's fair. I could not arrive
to my family with that much doochie on me. You
wouldn't call Nikki get the hoss.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
We gotta still love each other man again, I still
need this. I've committed to life with this person.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I can't risk that.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, wow, that's I like that. You put the steaks
his life. It is life steaks.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
This is life stakes for him.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
And we drove pass giggling like bitches.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Oh my god, I haven't laughed that hard in a minute.
That was because it's so funny, because we both realized
that exactly so much shit.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
But we also realized that we weren't even laughing at
the first peats.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
We weren't just like, oh, he shipped himself.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
And then it wasn't until like a block later that
we were like, yo.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
So funny. That was crazy, That was insane.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Oh man, all right, We probably gave too much time
to that, but I just had to get it out.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Well, you you were right to bring it up. We
need to take a break. We're gonna come back. We're
gonna do another voicemail more David Moore Langston more.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Ma Mama told me.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
But we're gonna do this respectfully, otherwise we'll end in
a duel, and I mean a duel, real life duel.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
We're only one person walks away.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
We can meet with guns, bottles, knives, or books and equations,
but we're gonna do this like man, so get ready.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
We are back that with a clip that is in
no way foreshadowing.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Here to listen to another voicemail.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
After a long, long talk about Dookie.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
We talked about Dookie for longer than we probably should.
But but that's not our problem. We're enjoying ourselves.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
It's just what we were going through at the time.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, I tell you to sell Dookie. All right, here
we go. We got another voicemail. Let's listen to this one.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
Hi, David, Hi lind. I want to say I appreciate
the podcast, very enlightening, and I do want to say
I know that.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
You do.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Read and also research a lot. I know that you
also read, and I've been fans of you and not
really know it until i've actually like started to watch.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Pause turn it down. This is too much.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, you don't know what we read and don't read.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I trust you. It's not as much as you think.
I'll tell you this. I read a lot at a point. Yeah,
I haven't done that in a while. It was going
to eighth grade. I wanted free pizza. Yeah, I got smart.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I got smart for a time and then I really
checked out after that.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I think you could kind of just front load it though,
like smart shit, you just I think if you go
real hard on the smart ship till twenty seven, probably
I think you.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I think you can be just sort of smart enough
for the rest of your life and not have to
really worry about too many things.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I've gone very far on a high school education. I'm
on college, but I ain't do the work. Yeah, I
was like, I worked hard in high school.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I was at the innermural gym a lot.
Speaker 8 (33:09):
All right, well, excuse me watch and listening to the
podcast anyway. My mom has told me a few organ
music that typically people that are late bloomers in high school,
specifically as a loner black ones who are just not
(33:32):
very social and unattractive during that awful time typically tend
to be uh the social butterflies flash pretty attractive when
they get older. I mean that, I personally, for myself,
very awkward, didn't talk to.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
A lot of people.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
But as I've gotten older, I feel though I've become
much really attractive.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I like that she's like speaking for myself. Yeah, had
a hard time, but now I'm fine, and shit, yeah
I grew up.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I don't believe this. I think this is a big
This is a lie, big ugly is pushing out. I
I want you to think that there's some secret virtue
to be.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I can't even get it out. I understand wanting to
think this, but I think it might just be some
people are just sour and don't like people, and some
people are not social, and some people never grow into that.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
I don't think we got to stop caring about what
happened in high school, bro.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I do think I think sometimes we put a lot
of stock into what people were in high school in
a way that probably isn't true, even for the people
that lived the experience, even the people who we.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Were like, man, he fucking he was the best in
high school. He was so cool?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Like how much of that was that person also experiencing
as like the championship were framing it as and how
much of it was like I don't know. They had
their insecurities and their shit they were working through and
not really like celebrating the way we think they were.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
They were fourteen to eighteen. Yeah, and if you were
the greatest that you were from fourteen to eighteen, you
blew it.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I'm sorry, I was pretty cool in high school, but
I wasn't. No, But I just mean like I wasn't
like I wasn't the king of the school by any means, right,
But I was cool enough that everybody fucked with me.
I didn't have any of like that weird shit of
being bullied or like outcasted in any way. I got
along with everybody. Everybody was like, no, Liston's a cool dude.
(35:32):
But also, you know what I mean, Like, it's not
like I looked at the people who were being bullied
down like now those are the sexy ones now, yeah,
like the niggas that were sexy in high school still
kind of.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Are Yeah yeah, I mean are you are you gonna
go to your twentieth I'm tempted.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
It's it feels also like a complete waste now that
I like have a family.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Oh, interesting, you're not gonna but you're trying to go
clean up unfinished business.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
No, it's not that, although that would be nice, I'm saying,
like I'm thinking more just like the idea that I
would have to like bring my whole family to Chicago
so that I could go to my high school reunion
feels like excess. It feels like what am I doing
that for? But on the flip side, maybe I'm doing
(36:28):
it because those people did make a meaningful imprint on
a major part of my life for a long time.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
You know what I mean, Are you gonna go? I
don't think so. Stop pushing it right now. I don't.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I don't really Did you go to your ten I
just don't.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I think that I went to So I went to
high schools, but the one I went to mostly was
a smaller school. So they all went to school with
each other because it was in a small area. They
all went to school with each other like their whole life. Yeah,
I got there halfway through ninth grade and I left
home halfway through twelfth grade. So it's like I think
(37:07):
sometimes they kind of group you in as having grown
up with them forever, and it's like, oh, I wasn't
really around as much as you thought, Because sometimes I'll
talk to you a buddy from high school, be like,
remember in seventh grade, I'm no I was.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Oh, They're like, oh I thought you were more a
part of our community than you actually are.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Or not that or maybe and maybe that's me too,
just having a very transient, transient life. Maybe it doesn't
have as big an impact on me either.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
M that like the things that could have meant something
would would maybe you know, not as important to you
as you thought. Yeah, don't damn I yeah, huh. Let's
keep listening because I feel like, you know, maybe she
she has she's saying she.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Had her glow up.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Let's see if there's other examples.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
What I've been told also, and you know, pretty popular,
but that comes with strange stereotypes and things like that and.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Some that are made.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Here's my issue. I don't she sounds fine as hell.
She does sound fine. I can tell she fine, But
I don't like grown ups being popular, you know what
I mean? Like, what is that? You don't like it?
But that's real? Is it? Do you think they're a
popular grown up? Yeah? Nigga, what are we trying to do?
Speaker 9 (38:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'm saying there's there's there's popular people in
every single social situation.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
You're saying, regardless of celebrity. Celebrity to me is a
different thing.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I think I think that there's popular people at work.
You never had a job where there's just like everybody
loves Rick. Yes, I think I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Think it ever changed.
Speaker 10 (38:42):
You think that continues to yah and I think whereas
a lot of people don't maybe get more successful in
their life, I think a lot of people who there's
a lot of people who are naturally popular who stay
not naturally popular.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yeah, I think that that. I think, Yeah, I don't
think that ever changes. I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I think you can change your trajectory and how you
fit in it, like this fine ass lady, right. I
think I think that that's and I think I think
that's why high school is such a bad barometer, because
you're literally a kid, right, you're fourteen to eighteen. So yeah,
of course you could flip how you what your dynamic is.
But yeah, I think there's I don't think I've ever
(39:20):
been in a situation there's popular people in prison, there's
there's true there's you know.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
What I mean, You're right, I'm I'm maybe being a
little shortsighted when I question the use of popularity. I
think it to me rings of a childishness. I guess
is maybe the most pejorative way to say it. But
like that that I don't love. But I also recognize
to your point that regardless of whether or not it
is child brain, it is the way that we live
(39:46):
as people.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah, I think that. And I think one reason maybe
that people I'm just I'm just thinking this now. I
think one reason maybe that people to put so much
emphasis on who they were in high school is high
school is like the roles that are defined. There are
kind of the roles that that you will see throughout life.
(40:07):
What your role is Like you could move around because
you're fourteen eighteen and you're figuring yourself out, but.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
The role still.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
But the actual that there's always going to be a
class clown, there's always going to be a popular kid.
There's always going to be a classrooms. Look, there's also
you know what I'm saying, like all that all that
are the jocks, the all the things exist. Whether you
buy into it for yourself is the question in who
you ultimately end up being. Maybe you are a popular kid,
but then you didn't have the confidants or whatever. But
(40:35):
those basic like kind of social archetypes. I don't know
why I said classroom slut. That wasn't nice, But those architects.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Think slut has to be just girls. That's true.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I think there were boy sluts, yeah a lot. Yeah,
I think it can be everybody.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
But the point is, like I think that that's when
those kind of stick around forever. And I think because
people constantly see those, that's why they tie so much
of their high school identity to themselves, where it's just
like now it's just who you were, then you could
be whoever, but it's like that is kind of who
people are.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I get that. Let's let's keep listening.
Speaker 8 (41:10):
But yeah, uh, the weird pro black girls, well not
socially pro black girl that time became super radicalized without
needing to go to college. Specifically for me, based on
the depth of Treyvon Martin and with that social awareness,
I was not older have become extremely radicalized, super pro black,
(41:35):
and super social. But because I live in Atlanta sometimes
so niggas don't hear this. So see Organdy and yeah,
I'd like to hear y'all about it.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Hey, how yo, okay, audios, it's crazy that Trayvon got
you fine, not gonna riff on it.
Speaker 9 (42:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
As soon as it came out of my mouth, I
was like, this is a missake. Yeah you did.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
You did the best joke that could come out of that.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
It was the best joke that could come out of it.
It's not because it's the thing. There's no there's no
morality in humor. Sometimes we're just gonna say bad stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, that's why I cut myself off. I was like, no,
everything I'm thinking is is not good.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
And you were smart because I think we could get
away with just that part. Had it expanded, that's when
it would have been real.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
That we've been doing this art the same amount of time.
I felt it, You felt it. Yeah, we all walked
away clean.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yeah, we're getting good. We're getting good at podcasting. Boy.
Uh no, man, uh yeah, I don't know. I feel
like she seems like maybe there's a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
I will say that the addition of the Trayvon Martin
sort of like information inside of this feels like you
became more activated in a community that learned to love
you as you. Oh that's a good point, you you
know what I mean that Like previously maybe you were
sort of like not fully activating your voice or not
fully inside of your skin the way that you wanted
(43:17):
to be. And then as you became more in your skin,
you became more beautiful because of that, right right, Like
this isn't but you yeah, like and more people who
look like you, or at least like connect to you,
are able to now see you as beautiful, whereas previously
maybe you felt like, well, I'm I'm I don't know
(43:37):
who I am, and I'm so I'm surrounding myself with
a bunch of people who don't see me the way
I want to be seen, and boom here I am.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
I get that because that's how I felt like in
high school, right, because I went to a regular school
and then I transferred to a super rural, mostly white
people's school, and it was like I was, like, am
I like the last half of high school? I had
my friends from my old school still, but like I
was the only person who like listen to the music
that I did, like really like cultural touchdowns that I kept,
(44:07):
And I think that caused me to be very confused
on my place within blackness. So I get that. But
also I understand being radicalized. I never thought about the
idea of what if all that stuff happened when you were.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
In high school?
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Yeah, that's crazy, Like there were kids who went were
in high school like during the Floyd protests, and.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Like, yeah, we didn't have any.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
We didn't have any crazy black stuff in our high
school years, we had national shit.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
We had not a national shit, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Which was jarring in a multitude of ways.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
But it did not feel personal though. No.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
And it was the first time I would say, as
a kid where I truly did feel like that patriotism worked,
do you know what I mean? Like every other time
that patriotism got presented as like we're all coming together
as a country, it was like big swaths of the
country they'd be like, no, not us, We're not a
part of that. But like nine to eleven was like
(45:06):
everybody was into America for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Did that make you nervous though, because I always felt
othered on that. I remember that nine to eleven happened.
And then this kid, Mohammed this is my first high
school he got hit. He got hit by a car
in the school parking lot like a week later. I
remember he didn't even think it was anything. I was like, oh, no, man,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah, because because that was the white people timing just
were so crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I never thought it
would move to in my favor, but I'd be lying
if I said that.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
It immediately scared me the day, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (45:44):
The first, like we got a flock run I know something.
There was a part of me that was like, maybe
we do. I was fourteen, Yeah, see what's crazy. I
didn't rally around. I just I just was able to
see the shift, and I was like, this is great.
It was like because I remember I never really heard
the word patriot before that shit happened, and then all
(46:05):
of a sudden everybody was saying it.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
You could tell people were scared. That shit made me
feel that was the fear of nine to eleven for me.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
No that that, I think I felt far more fear
than I felt activism is my point. But I'm saying
that I believed the unit, the unity for a moment.
There was a moment where it did feel unified. And
then you spend you know, a few weeks, frankly sort
of like watching the new interpretations of whose responsibility this
(46:36):
is and how we should treat the people who we
claim to be responsible, and you go, oh, no, no,
this isn't this isn't that, this is not unity. This
was just a reaction to, to frankly, one of the
more horrifying things that could happen to a country.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
I mean, ultimately, we're glad you got fine as hell. Yeah, congratulates,
that's really good.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I don't know. Keep doing the good work, keep keep
on keeping on, keep on being fun and popular and yeah,
and looking out for Trey von Martin audios.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
You want to tell people what you're doing where they
can go, Oh, yeah, you can. That's the whole thing.
We're done. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
You find me at Langston Kerman on all social media platforms.
You can. You can watch my special it's called Bad Poetry.
It's on Netflix. You can watch Everybody's Live with John
Mulaney on Netflix every Wednesday, seven pm Pacific time. And then,
more importantly, what do you have before I get into that.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
Cool guy joke? Saty seven on Instagram. April twenty fifth
and twenty six, I will be at the Dallas Comedy
Club in Dallas, Texas. June fifteenth, I will be at
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Please come out and see that. Patreon dot com backslash
David Borie to purchase my special Birth of a Nation.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
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Speaker 2 (48:25):
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Speaker 1 (48:30):
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Speaker 2 (48:37):
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Speaker 3 (48:41):
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