June 9, 2023 • 58 mins
Jessica Stone is a channel, Reiki Master, and teacher in all things tarot and expanding your human potential. She’s MAGICAL, and Lisa’s go-to “card puller” when everything feels uncertain and she needs to reconnect with her subconscious self.
This conversation is energetically powerful – so buckle up!
Jess spills:
- Tarot Cards: how tapping into our intuition works
- How her childhood trauma was the gateway to channeling her “guides”
- Spiritual Motherhood: How to live in flow as a mother and entrepreneur
- How motherhood can free you OR consume you
- How to swap trying to “heal” or “fix” with self-acceptance
- Why Jess thinks “manifestation” doesn’t work
- What channeling actually is and who can do it
- Her relationship with “ANA,” a visitor from the future who shares what it holds
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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the c see just how beautiful life can be. When
you safen your heart, you can finally start to live
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your tu seious life.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hello, everybody, welcome back to The Truth Is Life. It's
your host, Lisa Haim. And it is a weird week
here in New York and the East Coast. We've got
the Canada wildfires, which have cast a large amount of
smoke into our air, making yesterday one of the scariest
days of my life. We couldn't go outside. The air
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quality inside of my home was poor, and before I
even really realized it, I was in a state of panic,
and not obvious panic. I didn't look like somebody that
was having a panic attack. My nervous system shifted gears
and all I could think about was survival. I kind
of had my blinders onto everything else in life, and
I was just thinking, how can I protect my baby
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and keep us safe when the air that we breathe
is compromised. It was a scary day for I think
a lot of us, and as I make my way
out of that mindset, I'm noticing today one day later
that there's an imprint left on my body, my nervous
system doesn't just wake up the next day and everything's fine.
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There's like a residue left of ickiness and fear. And
to be honest, when I'm in those states of nervous
system dysregulation or even today ickiness, I resist my tools
to come back to home the most. I think that
we all get in our way right the most in
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those moments when we need it most. And in listening
back to this conversation you're about to hear with Jessica Stone,
I'm reminded of why it's so important to have an
active practice of working with your tools. It's not just
about being able to meditate or in her you know
what she does is taro reading or knowing your boundaries
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or anything like that. It's about how to utilize those
tools of self protection self preservation in the moments when
it's the hardest. And as somebody who practices a lot,
I just want to admit that it's hard for me
and remind myself and all of you that the practice
is most important so that we keep coming back right.
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Like on the good days, we come to our mat
or whatever practice it is of that day to rEFInd
ourselves knowing that on a day when we don't want
to show up, we follow the same path that's already
carved out. All we have to do is put one
foot in front of the other, so to speak. Anyway,
since you are a Truthiest Life listener, you probably know that,
but I want to take a second to really talk
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about what my purpose here is with The Truthiest Life.
I feel like the last couple of episodes have really
illuminated where my heart and soul is when it comes
to healing. I was talking to a friend about it
who loved our episode with Natalia Rachel the therapist, and
she was saying that what she loves about The Truthiest
Life and me is that I'm really open minded to
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conventional and unconventional modalities of healing. And I think that
that's like definitely true from a mind, body, spirit approach.
I have a very open mind to trying things, and
I recognize that it takes different modalities to get through
to us at different stages of our life. And I
hope that this podcast inspires you or educate. It's not
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inspires you, educates you on things that you don't know
about and gets you perhaps interested in something that could
radically change your life. It just takes one entry point
into mindfulness. Whatever that entry point is. Is my yoga teacher,
Tracy Tomy McQuaid always says, yoga's just one entry point
into mindfulness, but there's so many other entry points and
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it just takes finding that one to open the door
and unlock some of that magic within you. So this
episode with Jessica Stone, she's my personal tarot card reader.
She is a spiritual, divine being, mother, entrepreneur, and she's
the person that I call on in moments when I'm
feeling like really confused. At the same time, I go
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to talk therapy every week, but I call on this
type of work when I need to drop a little
bit more into my subconscious and find clarity into self.
A couple of years ago, I didn't even know what
TARA was. I met jess I thought that it was
quackery or more in line with psychic reading.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
First of all, I love psychic reading, but it is not.
It's Tara is a beautiful way to either be led
or lead yourself a little bit more deeply into your
subconscious so that you can live a more authentic or
truthist life. So jess is absolute mad and she is
out there for lack of a better word, she has channels,
she channels and speaks to spirit guides, and you can
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tell when she talks it's coming from a real, genuine place.
She is truly living her life from her soul. And
on that note, at the end of our conversation, she
talks about her new course where she is creating such
a beautiful and important offering. Soul led Life is her
new course that will open for registration in the end
of June of this month. I'm going to put all
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the information below to join the wait list, so you'll
be the first to know. But in this course, she's
giving so much. You're going to learn how to heal
old wounds and trauma, how to set clear boundaries, avoid
people pleasing, learn your archetype, communicate with your spirit guides
if that speaks to you, discover and live out your
purpose and learn to work with your body's energy systems
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that really speaks to me. Learn how to read the
signed stories and roadmaps of your day to day life.
How to receive support from guides and the universe. Simple
meditations to grow your energy, Understanding your chakras. Introduction to
intuition and more so, like I said, Jess is somebody
that is awesome and has so many tools and walks
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the walk. You guys know, I have said this like
a million times on this podcast. It's the people out
there that are not just talking the talk, but they're
walking the walk and have been doing so for not
just a few years, but decades their entire lives. They
are so steeped in wisdom and when they offer the
ability to learn from them, that's when we grab it.
So I'll put that information below. I hope you love
this conversation, and please keep an open mind if we're
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talking about things that you might not necessarily believe in
or are just simply out there for where you sit
right now. I hope that this airlifts and we all
go back to breathing beautiful oxygen without having to worry.
Have a great week, everybody. Hey Jess, welcome to the
Truthiest Life.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Hello, how are you?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I'm so excited to be here with you. I just
posted on my stories that I'm interviewing today and I've
had an influx of people that are so excited, some
of which found you through me years ago. But the
best part is they're like, she's my favorite person and
I found her through you, and I was like, yes,
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that is what it's about, sharing your gifts with the world.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You know, it's crazy. Is anyone that has said, like, hey,
I found you through Lisa have been the most high quality,
genuine good Like the people that are in your orbit.
They're solid and you know they're not They're not messing around,
They're like living life to the fullest. And I'm like
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every single person, I'm like, I can think of them
all right now. So if they're listening, I'm like, I
know who you are and like just good people that
really love you. And yeah, so thank you for sharing
that love.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well, I just loved it because it was like I
liked you, Lisa, but now I like Jess Moore and
I was like, you know what, that's for the greater
good because you truly do have gifts. And just to
speak to the audience and everybody, I really am so
lucky that I have such a core group of great people.
I totally feel that, and thank you for reminding me
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of how special they are. And I think what I
love is like as I've gotten older, I've gotten less
good at the Internet and so like my inability to
go viral actually keeps me rooted in like real people
that have been with me through the years, so they're
not just like finding whatever. Anyway, it was tangential, but
I just wanted to say that these people are deaf.
You are all listeners. You are you are the real deal. Okay,
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So finding you was also magical and by way of Taylor,
who created camp Conscious a couple of years ago, four
years ago.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Actually I know, it's like a times flung by.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So I was like, weirdly on that trip. I wasn't
supposed to be and then I got on it and
I was on as a quote unquote creator and you
were there a talent and I had never seen you before,
but the second you sat down and did readings with us,
you completely shifted my mindset about tarant. I always say
it's Tarat, not Taro, right.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, it's Tarot Tara. It's uh, you know, I feel
like stay however, because you just wanted to stick because
any people try, you know, like with anything, I'm like,
what feels good and natural? But I call it taro.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Oh you do?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, but it's like a you know, so it's like
I would ever say like Tara, I'm like, I feel
like too elevated. So I'm like, you know, it's Taro.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Like, okay, got it. That's why I've been calling it
Taro all these years and everyone's like, no, it's tarat
and I'm like, I feel like I should know that
because I'm a little familiar with it at this point.
But no, yeah, Taro here, I like that. Yeah, so yeah,
you came up. We started camp conscious with tarot card polls,
and prior to that, I was unfamiliar with Taro in general,
and I was kind of like, this is kind of
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gimmicky and stupid, you know, and then wham bam, I
pulled the card You've read back It's meaning to me,
and I was like, wow, well this is not stupid
at all.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You know, I think it gets a bad route to
a certain extent. I think there was a lot of
eighties movies that kind of sent it to a weird place.
And you know, Taro actually started in the church, which
is fascinating. So just as a lot of you know,
a lot of historical things have happened, you know, church
and war and all these like polarizing sides, you know,
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I think it got kind of tossed in that whole place,
and the actual practice of it is absolutely so beneficial
and so empowering and really, like I guess the kind
of logistics of it is, you're taking your intuition, which
every single one of us have, you know, that that
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feminine energy, that knowing that you do not have to
be a professional territor energy worker to do so, you
just simply have that feeling and allowing yourself to go
deeper with it and feel it and take the time
to actually be present with it. And I think that's
the biggest thing with the intuition is we all have it,
we just are too busy ignore or have ten things
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piled up or external you know, voices, opinions, mixing it
all up. So just the practice of allowing yourself to
have that sacred time with your intuition and what you're
feeling and also thinking. Because Tara also activates our more
masculine side, which is the action. You know, it's the
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feminine I feel, and then when you pull Tara, it's
the action. What is my brain thinking with this? What
does it want to do with this intuition? And that's
the place where with Tara you can kind of be like, ooh,
I like the choices I'm making, or no, I think
I want to shift it. It's not about telling your
future being locked in. We completely create our future every
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single second, so just allowing that process to take place.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, so you totally shifted my mindset around Tara. What
it is, how it's used, and like you said, like
how to put it into action. It's not actually about
you know, future predictions about what's going to happen into
your life, but it provides like a mirror as to
where you're at and then how do I feel. So
even if it's just like a stop sign to check
in with self, I have found it with you to
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be incredibly healing and directive. More than healing, helpful in
times when I.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Often you can tell your future when you start seeing
your past and prohais and you're like, oh, I create
a pattern, let me look at this deeper and let
me slowly navigate it to new places.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yes, yes, yes, so I have called on Jess in
moments of extreme uncertainty, and I'm pretty due for a
session now. We had to cancel on a few months back,
so we will be doing that hopefully soon if I
can get into your busy schedule. But before this session,
I sat down with my journal that I wrote in
when I was pregnant, so it was two years ago
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and pregnant and see you know, and many other stages
of life. But pregnancy for me was a highly emotional state.
And when you said, like there are voices in your
head or whatever, it is like just being emotional gets
in the way of clarity. So for me, even though
I had this amazing thing going on in my body
and I was so connected to it, there was a
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level of noise because I felt distraught a lot of
the times. So anyway, I just wanted to read really
quickly for anybody who's like, I don't get it, how
does this work? How spot on Jess is, and why
you should book your session today. Okay, so just on
the topic of pregnancy, you know, we pulled cards for
different things for my work, for my relationship, for pregnancy,
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for my baby's health, all of that, and two things
stood out. One about her energy. You literally said good
luck sleeping, and I know, like you think, like all
babies don't sleep, but particularly this one really rocked me.
So you were spot on there. And then with pregnant
see you had said labor will be energy forward favorable
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for a home birth, which ended up being extra extra true.
So yeah, you are just so tapped into me when
you are reading. Is that right? Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, definitely. And it's really a level of you know,
it's a level of intimacy. So you know, in any
other act we are creating intimately, it takes two people.
So I feel like we're getting to a time and
place in life where you know, people are showing up
for energy work or self development. So I have found
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in the last few years, and maybe it has come
with people's trust of me becoming more well known or something,
but when two people show up intimately, you share energy.
And I know we've all had those moments in different areas,
whether it's relationships or a deep connection with a family member.
But when you're there, you can read the whole well
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maybe not everyone I can read. I can read the
whole blanket of existence. And in that place like miracles
and connection happened so profoundly.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Well, I'm so glad that work has taken off for you.
I see that every day. I want to go back
to when we met, because there isn't a distinct difference
in you then versus now uns only four years or
so since we met in person. So, like I said,
I met Jess and she was a blank slate to me.
I'd never met her before, I'd never heard of her before.
(15:31):
I just saw this like beautiful woman, very California vibes.
And my immediate take on you was like, you must
be a single, no kids woman living in California, surfs
all day, has very little like obligations, but it's very
just like tapped into energy work. And then obviously I
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started talking to you and following you to find out
that you are a mother and you have older ish kid,
older than just babies. But your energy is and was
very free and it still is even though your work
I believe has like kicked up a bunch of not
just since then, what does it feel like to hear
me say that like you felt like such like a free, single,
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you know, non mother in that moment.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
You know, I hear that a lot, which is fascinating
to me because again, like I my like who I
am is a mom? Does it makes sense? But and
everything I do outside of it is supports her. But
you know, I think with really all this work I do.
In connecting to self and going through the phases of
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having kids, you have the ability to either, you know,
let it kind of consume you or let it completely
free you. Where you're like, wow, I have limited time.
I was even saw my Instagram, but I was literally
at school drop off about fifteen minutes ago, like looking
like a hot mess. And it changes time, you can
actually change it where you're like, you know, when we
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have all all the free time in the world, how
we kind of get locked up and just not we
get spun not doing anything. Oh, I'll get to it.
I'll get to it. When you when kids take place,
it's like I actually don't have time. What is my priority?
What feels good? And I can only do what feels
good because these people need me. And so I have
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found complete freedom in being a parent because I am
so clear on where I spend my time and energy
outside of it. And with that, it's like I only
want to put good in this world. I only want
to put energy back into it when I'm not focused
here because there is so limited time, it makes you
appreciate time more.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I hope that was okay that I said you didn't
feel like a mother I feel like the listener might
get that a little bit tangled, but no, I.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Like I said, I hear all the time. Then when
I'm at school, like and then people like look at
my Instagram and I'm like, ohh loo, hi, like don't
mind that, don't mind that photo or me talking to
the other side, but like, hey, has that pta me?
You know, duality, but both sides are equally true. And again,
I think that's the thing of you know, really tapping
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into self is like all versions of you can be
completely alive and true. One doesn't have to leave for
the other in a line. Again, that freereedom to expand
further and further. But it takes getting to know again yourself.
But sometimes it takes large events like having kids or
you know, some other big experience to say, hey, I'm
ready to like look in there.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
There's like this youthfulness about you. And it's not in
the way that you look, even though you do look
energized and all of that. They're just something about you
feel so young in the sense of free. Like that's
that's the word I keep coming back to for you.
And I'm just kind of curious as a newer mother
if there was ever a moment that you felt like
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tethered by having children or more restricted or have you
a We stayed in a state of flow.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
No, you know, so my kids are twelve and ten
this summer, and so they are older. I struggled so hard.
I was when they were a little so hard, you know,
the toddler age, really the baby age. I was so confused.
I was like, what is this? I felt very alone
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during that time. You know, I was alone during a
lot of it. And you know, I've always done energy
work since I was a kid, in this other side work,
but never as like a career. And it literally saved
me from completely getting swallowed by parenthood because it was
so difficult, and you know, you don't have your life.
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You know, everyone has a different experience with toddlers or babies,
but you change literally the version of you. The maiden,
you know, leaves and you become the mother, and it's
like who is it? So you have to relearn and
I'm sure you're in it right now. I'm in that,
am I? And then you know, honestly, once I kind
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of freed myself of actually becoming myself. Still it's the
easiest job in the world and I will say that.
And they're a little bit older and can cook their
own breakfast, and like you know, they shower on their own.
So there's a few other factors that go with it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I hear you on that, but again, I think it's
just like this state of flow and daily practices that
you do that I want to kind of get into
that I think allow you to have this relationship with
them with time, with motherhood that you know, we have
different relationships to those things, and enter what I am
calling recently lately like dimensions, Like I find myself in
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different dimensions in different times, and I'm like, okay, well,
if I'm in the dimension and all alike right now,
like you know, it feels very like reality, but you're
over here in this other dimension, and so somehow I
got to climb back in. Yeah, okay. So it has
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been really exciting to recently watch you show up online
professionally as a mother. I am not on social media
a lot, and for whatever reason, I get little servings
of you. But I'm feeling like a huge shift definitely
from when we first met four years ago. But it
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feels even like more acute than that. It feels like
something in the last year, maybe like changed in you.
Is there something that happened because you're leveling up, you're
working hard, but you're working hard in this way that
feels in such beautiful flow. Did something happen?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Am?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I am?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I off on this, you know, like a couple of
years ago, I you know, I was definitely in the
you know, flashback to parliament met I was a single
mom working hard, you know, just really like it was
hard work of something I love to do, so creating,
establishing a foundation of business. And that started working and
it felt good and it was it was let's call
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like my inner child or my old self being like
I canduce myself. I can work hard, I can like
push and she started to heal. That's the best way.
Does that make sense? Those places started to no longer exist,
you know, those stories I had in my head. The
I started seeing you know, there's only so long you
can tell yourself something, but when you look around, it's
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a completely different reality. And I think we get stuck
in you know, these past dimensions. We're like, wait, I'm
not even in that room. Why do I keep on
bringing myself back there? And I couldn't, you know, I
wake up every day I meditate. I do practice this
all day. I'm in meditation for hours usual with clients,
and so I am in these altered states where you
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have to like check in and there was no room
for those old dimensions is the best way to describe it.
And I think we can function very hard in those
and be like, you know, kind of the broken person
going forward. And it's not that I fixed myself. It's like,
I absolutely love this broken, mediocre, perfect, disastrous human. It's
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perfect the way it is. And instead of trying to
heal it, fix it, I just found such self acceptance
that was I think the healing point where it was
all good. After that, it was beautiful, and just went
forward going. I think we can do whatever we want
here on this earth. So what do I want to do?
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And I just started making these microadjustments, you know, and
changing my reality into a dream situation instead of I
have to do this or you know again like old dimensions.
I'm using your line because I'm like, that's such a
beautiful way to describe that. People think you have to like,
you know, know physics, how to move between dimensions. It's
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not it's all here in this moment. I think I
freed myself. Maybe what people felt on the external I
couldn't see. And once I freed myself of you are
perfect the way you are, and again, not perfect, but
existing in a thing of complete self love and understanding
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and loyalty to in here, everything changed external because it
doesn't matter what the external is doing, because it's solid here.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
A moment ago, you referred to self as she instead
of I. Very naturally. I'm just curious why you think
you did that. I don't think it was a conscious decision.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
She is my human right, it's where. It's my home,
and I definitely found a new level of love in
my home. I got sick a couple of years ago too,
and that made me realize, like, oh, I should really
love this home and take care of it. So you know,
she's my home. My viewpoint is from my soul, if
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that makes sense, Like this is my home. I take
care of it. She has emotions and opinions and moods,
and I love her to death. She's rowdy, gievous, but
who takes care of her is my soul.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Interesting, So there's like a more grandmother place from within,
the caretaker that takes care of your physical body and yeah,
who her mind? Your life form here right now?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah? Okay, And actually in that timeframe, I had a
moment in the shower where you know, I kept on
seeing reality, but I didn't want to break. I was
in my you know we'll call our human which is
you know, part of the animal world. I guess I
don't know, but she was trying to have you ever
seen a horse like break when they like tame a
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wild horse. And she was fighting me, fighting me, and
I literally was all of a sudden seeing my existence
through my soul's eyes, and like she was fighting and
wanting to kick, and I kept on going closer. I'm
closer to her, like I've got you, I've got you,
and I was like breathing like like very prime mole,
and it was like watching this from my soul's eyes.
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And then she finally just broke and gave in to me.
And again that was now talking about like that was
a key moment where I was like whoa, and I
switched over, and so I would say I am different now,
like there is an actual difference where my perspective is
coming from a different place.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And how has that changed your professional work?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
It has become very easy and fun and playful and
no worries. Because again, when you're like in purpose, whatever
that purpose is, whether you're like I want to hang
with my friends, that's my purpose today, and we our
purpose to shift throughout the days and years. But my
soul's purpose she is living completely and that is to
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allow the freedom, the safe place to play with this
energy body that it's pretty much in every which way
catching up where oh turns out we are in a
as well, So just align at the play freely.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I love that, and I see that, and I feel that,
and I'm very proud of you. You mentioned that you
practice energy work as a kid. I think that a
lot of energy workers, Reiki masters, tarot readers, any type
of healer, psychologists, like anybody that I know oftentimes becomes
a healer because they've healed themselves and they didn't have
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access to these things. But you say that energy work
has been with you since you were a kid, So
how did you grow up? Because it's quite different than
me and I think a lot of our listeners.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, I mean, and I find I find a lot
of people that were like WHOA. When I was little,
I was able to connect or would see stuff, feel
suck was that my imagination. Imagination is true, so always
remember that is like anything, so get used to using
your imagination in the correct way. But when we are kids,
you know, before our root chakra, which is zero to
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seven years old, that is where we find our tribe.
That is where we lock into more of like who
am I socio economically? Who am I in? You know,
my family unit? Who am I in this world? So
we're locking in who our human character is. Before that,
it's freestyle. It's like I don't know what I am.
So you are still connecting to the other side, you
(28:19):
still relate to You can see other dimensions because you
haven't locked in this is who I have to be,
this is my character, this is my archetype. You know,
for a lot of people, they have experienced as a
lot of children are able to see more than you
know what we see. I'm sure your little one is
experiencing way more than how you just look. You know,
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she's probably experiencing every essence of your being truly and
so as a child, you know, I call it like
a backwards ghost. I have memories before I came here.
I was a c section baby. There's a theory that
you know, when you're a C section baby. And I
think this is just an added piece to it. The
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and I'm probably going to stay this wrong, but there's
a chemical release of when you go through the vaginal
canal that does happen, yeah, with C section babies, And
so I think and I think it my theory of
when I channeled. They say it kind of like allows
like a place of you know, write a passage or
a ceremony here, and a chemical amnesia to a certain extent.
(29:24):
So I think that mixed with whatever my soul's purpose was,
I picked a perfect storm for a human to be
able to connect to the other side. So when I
was little, I would see auras of other dimensions. You know,
I was just one of those strange kids. It wasn't
a big deal. We grew up, you know, I grew
up in Texas where religion was a huge thing, and
(29:46):
I think that actually fostered that comfort level of it's
okay to have a spiritual experience instead of like, oh,
this is weird. So it was just always kind of there.
I met the guide group that I worked with to
this day when I was about twelve years old. Learned
how to do basic channeling, And you know, I grew
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up in a very traumatic on paper upbringing, and I
do think it was a way to escape it. It
was a way to I'll stay in altered states so
I don't have to be in this state. So I
got really good at it as a child, and it
was just part of my practice all the way up
until life kind of pulled it into a work. Since
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you know, six years ago.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Your family life was traumatic. Is that what you mean.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yes, I think I was driving the other day and
I was like, I'm so freaking lucky to have my
dad and my mom. You know, it's like but as
on paper it was abuse. It was you know. I
remember running away to a women's shelter at night and
we had like as a family restraining orders. You know,
my mom not knowing I think, what to do with children.
(30:59):
So I became the parent to like five kids with her,
you know. So just the typical story of maybe that
type of world. But again, I can't find and this
is where kind of the healing took places. I can't
find any sort of pain in it anymore. It's such
a blessing. And that took twenty years, by the way, that's.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Not yeah, having five siblings too, I feel like maybe
like you've been mothering far longer than just your eight
and twelve year old so.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
That yeah, I definitely feel like there's like a theme
there that it was like, oh, I get it.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yes, but it's funny because you've got this like nurturing
mothering being. But at the same time this like for
every young energy, which is very interesting because it's not
like old soul. I'm not getting like that.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
But no, I definitely feel like I'm a very young soul. Yes,
I realize the rules here yet.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yes, yes, that is really well put. Okay, I love that.
So you brought up the word channeling, and it's something
that I'm a little bit familiar with and definitely try
and follow along when you're talking about it. But for
me and some of our listeners it might be a
foreign concept. So especially having like a group, what is
a guide group and what is channeling?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, so channeling. We all are channels. So I want
you to see it as like we're all a radio station.
We are constantly channeling. So again going back into that
root chakra of I'm channeling what my parents told me
I should be, I'm channeling what my teachers did. Society
says we should brush our hair. I'm brushing my hair.
TikTok right now says we should do you know, a
(32:36):
loose wave whatever. We are channeling that through our essence. Right.
So there's collective channels those imagine it streams like how
whales you know, swim along and they're different little places.
There's different streams. So we have large streams here on Earth.
We are white females in America. True, so that's a
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large stream that we swim in. We share that energy with,
you know, that whole existence. And so there's nothing wrong
with all these channels we are, I guess channeling through us.
But there's all this place of there's an individual channel
for all of us, meaning an individual radio station that
you can find that is only yours. And when you
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do that, you start tapping into higher channels. So let's
take it further. There's all the channels that exist outside
of the dimension we're in the Earth frequency and that's
more energetic state, and so there we have help just
as much we have other lives we were in, We
have memories, we have friends, we have such support from
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things outside of this human experience and imagine it like
we can see our whole life through a little too.
I see you and this computer. It's true, it's not
not true. But when we learn to expand our channels,
Oh there's a cabinet right there. Oh there's some candles.
Oh there's a friend. Hey, what's up? Does that make sense?
(34:02):
So it doesn't make anything untrue. It just makes things
bigger and truer. So when you tap into higher channels,
you can tap into so much and you can find
your individual frequency there.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
And you can tap into beyond what you see. Like
you kind of gave examples of you know, cabinet, you know,
things that are directly in your room. But essentially, when
you channel, you go to places that are not necessarily
physically around you.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, and where my guides describe it is bright earth,
they call it heaven. It's where we exist outside of here,
and technically we're all there right now. We are just
just as when people listen to this, this will be
a memory. We don't exist, so it's going to be
an old essence of us. Technically we're right, but our
essence is still true. We're here, we are projecting this
(34:51):
sensation down to here. And so you just get a
clear signal on that.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
For years, I've been, you know, watching you talk about
channel and it's still a very foreign concept to me.
So I always tune in a little extra more when
you're talking about it because I want to I want
to get it. I want to understand, and so much
of your audience seems to understand what you're talking about already.
So there's a little bit of like catch up going
on when you go to your page for me. But
(35:17):
for years, and I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Good toback for me at least, I mean maybe you're
so I'm like, oh my god, you are so intuitive
and special. I'm like, okay, wait, if this intuitive special
the human doesn'tet it, I should probably learn to explain better.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
No, it's I guess it's just an element of intuition spirituality,
just like Taro was, you know, foreign to me until
I met you. So is channeling and using our minds
to go to places that we can't physically see. I
love it. I'm interested. I but yeah, it feels a
little intangible for me in my current practice. But anyway,
(35:54):
when you're channeling, you're often referring to the the I
read it as Anna's a and.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
A yeah, Oh that's Anna. I know she's from the future. Okay, HR,
we can talk about her. HR is my guide group.
They made up that name because I was like, I
have to name you guys at some point because it's
just light beings. And they're like HR and I was like, oh,
(36:21):
like HR like human resources and they're like, no, like
higher resource, and it just kind of stuck and it
was like a joke that they gave and I was like,
all right, guys, when when you.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Say like your guide group back at home, there are
those people or this is just like.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Usually where we meet up is in a classroom and
they have tas that sometimes help out. Oh, they have
the main So I mainly work with we'll call it
like a university of maybe it's a city college, who knows,
but it's an existence outside of there where they're also
learning and growing at support system and so it's always
a you know, symbiotic experience.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Oh okay, okay, got it. Okay, So go back to
HR now.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So that's the only guide group I work with besides
people's guides. So if we are doing a session and
when we've done that, I'm either tapping into it looks
like coding all around you, and this isn't something I
do unless I'm in I can tell how I tell
you all how to channel better if you know people
want help. But it's a coding all around us, So
(37:20):
that's where you can pull from it and kind of
tap into future stuff so you can see what's coming,
but you have free will to change it. Or I'm
working with your guides, which could be a variety of
guides coming in at that time, but HR is a
guide group I work with that I always just work with.
It's the easiest place they reside in, like the sixth
seventh dimension where most of us are from. And then
(37:43):
there's Anna, who you're referring to, which was by accident,
and she's from the future and it's always a trip.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
So where do you access Anna when you meditate?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I have to tap into that. It's like knowing how
to turn a dial. Got it into it and her
dial and why I kind of got refascinated with her
because years ago she was like, I'm part Ai. She's
from like six hundred years in the future. And I
was like, okay, you're part Ai. Don't get it, and
like you know, she was explaining how her phone is
like right here, not her phone, but like her, and
(38:14):
I was like, this isn't you know, Like this is
so kooky. I'm like, I'm such a kook. What am
I doing? And then this whole boom of like AI
you know, chat GPT has like came about where I
was like, ooh, I get it now, words is this
end and begin? And so I started recently tapping back
into her. But when I tap into that energy line,
(38:34):
it feels like talking on a walkie talkie to where
when I'm working with the guides, it's like the most beautiful,
warm hug coming in. It's so lovely.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
So let's talk about add a little bit more because
I think we all want to know about the future,
like what's going on in the future.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Why she contacted me, what she was trying. She's working
on a research paper of the beginning of unity consciousness,
and I was like, what is that? And she's like,
I'm doing a thesis on unity consciousness, something that exists
now and in the future. Apparently we're going to be
able to tap in and out of past and present.
(39:10):
But she's like I wanted to like try to go
far back, so I had to use someone who's a channel.
So I connected into you and so she was asking
like just kind of like, how's it there? So I
was like, how's it there? And she's explaining. This is
the fascinating part, probably the biggest takeaway beyond like I
think she lives in Utah. I know, we still have oceans.
We still don't take care of the ocean like liner
(39:33):
she's in Maury's. You know. She was explaining that unity
consciousness is this thing that just exists as much as
true as you know, okay, we are Americans that in
the future, ego is something that they've learned, just like
something else we would have of, you know, like any
other guess personality disorder, you start to be able to
(39:55):
identify it and work towards unity consciousness. And at first
I was like, that's so beautiful, that's amazing. But it
was fascinating because as the channeling was going on, I
could tell myself getting like and I think it was
my ego, getting really uncomfortable and like fussy about it.
And you know, she was explaining that it pops up
randomly and we as a collective take care of it,
(40:16):
but we see each other truly as one, truly as one,
you know, that thing of we're all one, and we're like, yeah,
I get it, but like it doesn't resonate. We're able
to get there in the future. But there's the people,
the naturalists or whatever she was calling them, that don't
participate in the AI half human world. But there's nothing
(40:36):
wrong with them. There's no battle going on. It's just
like complete love to them as well. Everyone can truly
be whoever they want and choose that, but they're choosing
unity consciousness. And when she was going through it, I
was like, my ego was like getting disturbed, and I
was like, oh, I don't know if I want to
be as one work as one. I like my butt head,
(40:59):
you know, since so I don't know. I like every
time I channel with them, it's like, what the heck?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
So this is six hundred years to go till this happens.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, But then she was explaining that we still don't
have it aligned with Earth and animal, like we still
see ourselves separate from that. Because I was like, She's like, oh, well,
the ocean's still dirty because something we've achieved as self
that is a truth, we haven't kind of fully landed
on it. So there's you know. So that's what I've
got from her.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Interesting. Okay, god, oh interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I'm like, I feel like this is such a freak show.
So no judgment everybody.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, no, Well, I mean, if you're still here, we
know that even if you're judging, there's a part of
you that was intrigued and a part of you that
believes it, and a part of you that doesn't want
to believe it because of yougo, because of you know,
all that stuff. So anyway, keep opening your minds, Keep
opening your minds. I like how you said everything in
your imagination is true, but what struck me about it
(41:55):
is you've recently said online something else that struck me
which kind of goes against it, which is manifestation is
a little bs. I don't know if that was your
wording or not, but how can imagination be true yet
manifestation be bs in your opinion?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Let's get into that, because and I think manifestation is
I think it was manifestation. Don't do it or it
doesn't work. And I'll explain that in a second, because
those are more like buzzwords for the actual like you know,
sensation behind it, but imagination, like everything we imagine it's
it's a dimension in itself. It doesn't have you know,
like atoms squished together. But our imagination is a place
(42:34):
that exists out there and it equally has life and
equally is true. So you know, imagination, use it, play
with it. When you have your imagination, realize the power
of it, or that place exists out there and you
can pull that energy into this dimension, into this world.
So let's go into manifestation that I might I say, manifestation,
(42:56):
don't do it is that's more or less of kind
of where I feel like manifestation has landed. I manifested.
I manifested like this latte, so energetically it feels like
it's getting cheaper se make sense creation, manifestation. There's energy
lines that we pull from imagination into this universe, right,
(43:20):
these really powerful, thick, beautiful, healthy energy lines. And manifestation
I think was whoa, we have the power to create.
This is beautiful and we've kind of taken it into
this place of manifesting your favorite latte or manifesting that
makes sense. And so I mean, and this is like
(43:40):
an umbrella statement that is not the hard, black and
white truth. But I hope get what I'm saying when
I say, manifestation has become like we had that amazing
superpower and everyone's just kind of bringing it into junk.
You know.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I love when you said like cheapened it, because I
think that's like a really great word to it's being
thrown around. It's being thrown around without not truly understanding it,
so and that's doing it a disservice.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Yeah, And it's okay to manifest a lot to It's
okay to manifest like again manifested, not being hung up.
I know. There's so much So anytime we speak something,
anytime we exist in something, it becomes true so energetically,
the stream of manifestation that even like eight years ago
felt much richer has gotten watered down. It's like a
(44:31):
beautiful peach. There's nothing wrong with the peach, but it's
become a canned peach. And there's nothing wrong with a
canned peach either. It's just why if someone's like, oh,
I really want to call in a beautiful life, or
I really want to call in feeling good in here
or kind of knowing what the heck I'm doing, there's
(44:52):
better ways to go about it now, to not borrow
from the canned peach energy. There's still beautiful essence, your
own essence that no one ever can and so really
talking about that more and that's kind of again, I
know we're going to talk about my course, but that's
kind of where we get to is understand your own
frequency and not having to borrow off the manifestation thing.
(45:13):
There's nothing wrong with it, but it's gotten thinner is
the best way to describe it.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Okay, got it? So actually I think that's a perfect
segue into your course because this is an incredible offering,
so soul led life. What can you tell us about it?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
So I created this course for basically, you know, as
far as sessions, I gratefully and thankfully am you know,
booked out a lot and I was like, well, what
teachings can I provide. There's a theme that goes across
the board when people, I guess and myself find each other,
and it's this thing of I'm ready to go deeper,
I'm ready to check in, I'm ready to drop in
(45:51):
into self. And so basically just taking all the teachings
that I've worked with my guides with putting it into
it the base of how to channel for yourself and
really for the place of speaking of manifestation, stepping out
of manifestation, like manifesting a life and going into complete purpose.
(46:12):
Purpose has such a rich frequency and when you land
in it and you're in it, the fuel that it
gives into your life, the miracles that take place in
that sixth sense energy is immeasurable. So really just teaching
people how to drop into purpose instead of manifestation and
(46:34):
in that place finding your own And then there's just
tons on integration because I think we're all of this
fall out of practices. When we fall out of practice
and we're like, yes, I know everyone here has had
an AHA moment and then you're like a month later,
like dang it, what happened. So an integration piece of consistency.
We have to be a human we are in this dimension.
(46:56):
We can't you know, just be fully you know, spiritual
beings all the time. We have to learn how to
participate in this world in our truest sense what feels good.
So just allowing that, and then you know, we have
accountability groups who are again just finding community, finding the
safe place to talk about these things or just be
in it or play or be like this is silly, Okay,
(47:17):
let's talk about it anyway.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Who would you say this course is for? Besides for everybody,
obviously everyone could benefit if they're going to really do
this work, But like, who will this land with right now?
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Anybody who's listening, anybody who has that ping right now,
that ping, that is intuition. So when something pings us,
we go, let's go further. And if you start existing
your whole life of following the breadcrumbs and the dots,
then again you really find your flow. You find in
that peaceful place. So if you pinged, I would say that,
(47:51):
you know, I mean, you can from all walks of life.
You could be a mother, you could be someone just
starting out in a career. You could be you know,
someone who is in the sense that season of their
life just winding things down where you're just like, wait,
I feel this going further. And I know that sounds
a little bit esoteric, but no, if you get the
ping to do it, that is what this course is about,
(48:12):
is listening to those pings and arriving to them further.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Wow. I love it because it's like very vague and
out there, but like you're not trying to be out there.
You just are out there at another dimension. So talking
to to us Earthlings is a hard thing. You're like, earthlings,
stop thinking so much. Just feel if you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
For the person that got the pin, who is in
the moment any of you guys get a ping and
then your brain's gonna go, No, that was your stomach. Girl,
Oh my god, am I Oh my god. So if
you're having those adverse reactions, that this course is for you,
because the voices don't stop. The like hard on yourself
(48:53):
never stops. There's no way to not have the dialogue
in your head. It's cruising within it, knowing your steady
place so deeply. As this voice has come along, you're like, hey, hey,
and I'm going forward. You know.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
I think this course is for me, is what I'm learning,
because integration has been my word for almost a year now.
That keeps coming up for me and I step into
it and then, like you said, I fall out of
it because it's really hard in my life at least
to stay in it. The practices that keep me in it,
I oftentimes have to like do very separate from my
(49:27):
normal life. Yeah, So, like, what will specifically be learned?
Can you share any specifics, so as far as.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Like the integration part and then we'll work backwards because
that's kind of the more second part of the course.
It's it's about like, Okay, I don't have time to
sit and meditate or go make an you know, go
make a feather crown and you know, put my feet
on the ground. This is learning those different places of
(49:55):
integration within everything we do because again I'm a mom,
a bit business owner, you know, I'm mini roles where
you learn that integration and what you're doing your purpose
rather than having to if I do this, it works
because when we do things and the energy is not there,
it doesn't have the same you know, resons on it.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
So true, it's I mean, yes, that's definitely a thing
I found in my life when my under That's one
of the reasons I have never been able to be
successful quote unquote with Instagram. Like I really envy people
that plan their content and do it in such a
beautiful professional way that it's sustainable to them and they've
got a flow. But like if I ever planned something
(50:38):
and I post it like a month a week later,
like it falls flat. Whether it's a recipe or something
from my heart like nobody cares. But if I post
it from that moment, impact yes, because the energy is alive.
So there's an endless source of energy that lives inside
of you and intelligence that cannot be taken away. And
so the course is really about just sitting in that
(51:01):
place constantly. And again, you do not have to be
a channel or a terror raider.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
This can be I. You know, I am just even
a stay at home mom and this works for me.
So this course begins when Presell is June twenty eighth.
Through the first it is basically three hundred dollars off.
Then it's five seventy five instead of eight seventy five.
The course is we already filmed it. I think it's
(51:26):
like six eight hours, a whole manual with it the
accountability group. So as far as value, it's incredible. But
I wanted to do the Precell then because we actually
launch it, mean you can view it the beginning of September.
Because I'm a mom and I go off during the summer.
I like to know what I'm going to learn in
the fall. You know, I go through seasons and energetically,
(51:48):
even the fall is when we ground down. So I
didn't want too hard. Launch it in the summer because
I wanted people want the first time I ever did
any training and energy work, I had to be on
the slowest payment plan. I couldn't afford something that completely
changed my life, but I had that ping, and so
I also wanted to never have anybody not be able
(52:09):
to do something, but also honor my time and my
energy and putting into it. So in June there's an
amazing payment plan to get you there in an easy way,
so again paying forward what was given to me to
change my life. And yeah, then you just know your
fall plans and then you're like, I'm going back this.
So it's back to school in September, but you need
to register for school and know your plan. So that's
(52:32):
kind of basically why I did that. So it launches
September seventh, the actual where you can access it, and
then our accountability groups live calls with me doing our
thing right out through the rest of the year, so right.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
So it's a long term, yeah, and you'll have your
support all throughout the fall to really integrate into.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
That exactly, and you just know your plan. You're not
like September going shoot, I didn't budget for this it's like, Okay,
I can do this. I can make it happen and
at a better price.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Okay, So we're going to put that information below for
so led life where you hopefully you have a link
ready soon that I can grab from you, and we'll
put that all below so everybody can tag along. I
want to go back to what or second your guides
because the question popped up when you said again that
you had that guide group and you went to it
during like a tumultuous time of your life. I'm still
(53:24):
uncertain are these physical people like a group or no?
This is just like the channel that you entered and
found yourself in. Like so I don't mean to say
is it real or not? But like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
I mean, it might not be real, but you know,
we might all be crazy. But that's kind of the
fun of life, is like what are we doing? Like
what rules really exist? But they do not exist on
the earth plane.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Okay. I thought this was because I thought it was
like associated maybe with your religion the way you had
said it. No, this is just a place that you
entered and found your guide group and you've been meeting
with them since then.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
Yeah, so I find most people that are in my realm,
most probably people that listen to you if I'm speaking
for you, and probably the people in your frequency because
we exist in the same frequency space. Most of us
reside outside of human experience in the sixth and seventh dimension,
and so we're all kind of just like neighbors in it. Now,
you can probably meet somebody on this earth that you're like, whoa,
(54:22):
I don't get it, I don't get I can't connect.
You know, they're probably not in your soul group. Then
you meet, you know, and there's nothing wrong with all
these levels of energy. You know. It's like, we don't
judge a third grader for not knowing high school algebra.
We don't. You know, I'm probably the third grader, by
the way, So you know, I think again, like, you know,
nobody knows anything, and it's just one of those things
(54:44):
of this is the best way they explain it, the
best way to describe what happens beyond this life. We
have a very rich, full life beyond this life. And
so while you're here to really own it and live
it to the fullest, because it's a very moment.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
I have these two best friends, their newest friends, and
their their mom friends, and I call them my We
have like a group chat on text messages and I
named it Alternate Universe Besties because it's really strange. But
I feel like they live in an alternate universe and
I love the universe that they bring me into. What
do you think is going on there?
Speaker 1 (55:20):
Like?
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Do they are they in a different frequency than me?
Speaker 1 (55:23):
Roll with me on this. You naming it alternate universe? Yeah,
literally are naming the truth. Anything we do is true.
That makes sense, and if you don't like your truth,
you've got to switch it. So that is true. There
are your alternate universe friends. So probably you know, from
an alternate universe is usually they reside in a different frequency.
They're channeling in from a different place. But you're like, ooh,
(55:45):
I like, you know, it's like meeting a friend from
a visy. You're like, let's buy. It's not like your similarities,
there's nothing, you know, if you really believe we're all
one beyond every dimension, it's all good. And yeah, so
they're just they're just your girls from alternate universe. And
it's fun, it's invigorating, it's chemistry and just like we
take a cake. How some chemistry totally like flows in
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some it's like that falls flat. It's like when chemistry
is there, it's like live in it and enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
And it's fun. It's spicy, and I love finding like
different people and I feel like they've brought me to
a different dimension. But I have to stay with them
to get to that dimension. Without them, I can't access it.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Yeah, oh, this is something in the course too, you
learn because some of us are portals, some of us
are grounding stations, some of us are nucleuses. Like we're all,
you know, archetypes, and this is like more of a
psychology thing of understanding archetypes, but we have energetic archetypes too,
So learning you know what your archetype actually is. And
then you're like, oh, you're probably like an explorer where
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you're like, oh, send me on your rocket ship girls,
you know, like let's go.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
It's fun to be anywhere besides what you know.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
You know, Yeah, it's exactly.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
So you're gonna be teaching some of that in your
course too, some of them archetype, psychological archetypes of energy.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
You know, we go through a whole test on learning yours.
Does it make sense? So you're interacting with it to
basically understand what your energetic archetype is.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Well, this course is going to be such a huge success,
and I'm so excited to see you step up outside
of doing one to ones, because you've got such a
gift to this world. And like I've said, you've helped me,
in my least clear moments find clarity. And looking back,
it's even more like, Wow, she was spot on. There's
so much more in there that I didn't read from
our session two years ago. That's a little bit more private,
(57:33):
but like you've got the gifts and you're using them
and you're in purpose and it's so inspiring. And you're
also an alternate universe friend, like you and I are
not from the same place. But when I'm with you,
I'm like holding on for the ride, going for it,
you know, and it's fine.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
And when I'm in your energy, I'm like, I feel
like smart and cool cool. I am not smart, I
don't know standards. You're the cool girl, You're the coolest.
I'm being very genuine when I say that, thank you.
It's hard for me to receive that for some reason,
special like a part of something good, if a part
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of something good when I'm in your energy.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
Thank you so much, thank you for being here, thank
you for living your truthiest life and helping all of
us live our truthiest life. I think we all leave
here feeling like a little bit more brave to be
our true selves because you did that today.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
Thank you, truthious. I love it. Yes, amazing Girlvell. So
good to see you, so good to thank you.
Nor even when times gethard and you feel you're in
the c see just how beautiful life can be. When
you safen your heart, you can finally start to live
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your tu seious life.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hello, everybody, welcome back to The Truth Is Life. It's
your host, Lisa Haim. And it is a weird week
here in New York and the East Coast. We've got
the Canada wildfires, which have cast a large amount of
smoke into our air, making yesterday one of the scariest
days of my life. We couldn't go outside. The air
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quality inside of my home was poor, and before I
even really realized it, I was in a state of panic,
and not obvious panic. I didn't look like somebody that
was having a panic attack. My nervous system shifted gears
and all I could think about was survival. I kind
of had my blinders onto everything else in life, and
I was just thinking, how can I protect my baby
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and keep us safe when the air that we breathe
is compromised. It was a scary day for I think
a lot of us, and as I make my way
out of that mindset, I'm noticing today one day later
that there's an imprint left on my body, my nervous
system doesn't just wake up the next day and everything's fine.
(01:36):
There's like a residue left of ickiness and fear. And
to be honest, when I'm in those states of nervous
system dysregulation or even today ickiness, I resist my tools
to come back to home the most. I think that
we all get in our way right the most in
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those moments when we need it most. And in listening
back to this conversation you're about to hear with Jessica Stone,
I'm reminded of why it's so important to have an
active practice of working with your tools. It's not just
about being able to meditate or in her you know
what she does is taro reading or knowing your boundaries
(02:20):
or anything like that. It's about how to utilize those
tools of self protection self preservation in the moments when
it's the hardest. And as somebody who practices a lot,
I just want to admit that it's hard for me
and remind myself and all of you that the practice
is most important so that we keep coming back right.
(02:41):
Like on the good days, we come to our mat
or whatever practice it is of that day to rEFInd
ourselves knowing that on a day when we don't want
to show up, we follow the same path that's already
carved out. All we have to do is put one
foot in front of the other, so to speak. Anyway,
since you are a Truthiest Life listener, you probably know that,
but I want to take a second to really talk
(03:02):
about what my purpose here is with The Truthiest Life.
I feel like the last couple of episodes have really
illuminated where my heart and soul is when it comes
to healing. I was talking to a friend about it
who loved our episode with Natalia Rachel the therapist, and
she was saying that what she loves about The Truthiest
Life and me is that I'm really open minded to
(03:24):
conventional and unconventional modalities of healing. And I think that
that's like definitely true from a mind, body, spirit approach.
I have a very open mind to trying things, and
I recognize that it takes different modalities to get through
to us at different stages of our life. And I
hope that this podcast inspires you or educate. It's not
(03:47):
inspires you, educates you on things that you don't know
about and gets you perhaps interested in something that could
radically change your life. It just takes one entry point
into mindfulness. Whatever that entry point is. Is my yoga teacher,
Tracy Tomy McQuaid always says, yoga's just one entry point
into mindfulness, but there's so many other entry points and
(04:07):
it just takes finding that one to open the door
and unlock some of that magic within you. So this
episode with Jessica Stone, she's my personal tarot card reader.
She is a spiritual, divine being, mother, entrepreneur, and she's
the person that I call on in moments when I'm
feeling like really confused. At the same time, I go
(04:28):
to talk therapy every week, but I call on this
type of work when I need to drop a little
bit more into my subconscious and find clarity into self.
A couple of years ago, I didn't even know what
TARA was. I met jess I thought that it was
quackery or more in line with psychic reading.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
First of all, I love psychic reading, but it is not.
It's Tara is a beautiful way to either be led
or lead yourself a little bit more deeply into your
subconscious so that you can live a more authentic or
truthist life. So jess is absolute mad and she is
out there for lack of a better word, she has channels,
she channels and speaks to spirit guides, and you can
(05:07):
tell when she talks it's coming from a real, genuine place.
She is truly living her life from her soul. And
on that note, at the end of our conversation, she
talks about her new course where she is creating such
a beautiful and important offering. Soul led Life is her
new course that will open for registration in the end
of June of this month. I'm going to put all
(05:29):
the information below to join the wait list, so you'll
be the first to know. But in this course, she's
giving so much. You're going to learn how to heal
old wounds and trauma, how to set clear boundaries, avoid
people pleasing, learn your archetype, communicate with your spirit guides
if that speaks to you, discover and live out your
purpose and learn to work with your body's energy systems
(05:49):
that really speaks to me. Learn how to read the
signed stories and roadmaps of your day to day life.
How to receive support from guides and the universe. Simple
meditations to grow your energy, Understanding your chakras. Introduction to
intuition and more so, like I said, Jess is somebody
that is awesome and has so many tools and walks
(06:12):
the walk. You guys know, I have said this like
a million times on this podcast. It's the people out
there that are not just talking the talk, but they're
walking the walk and have been doing so for not
just a few years, but decades their entire lives. They
are so steeped in wisdom and when they offer the
ability to learn from them, that's when we grab it.
So I'll put that information below. I hope you love
this conversation, and please keep an open mind if we're
(06:34):
talking about things that you might not necessarily believe in
or are just simply out there for where you sit
right now. I hope that this airlifts and we all
go back to breathing beautiful oxygen without having to worry.
Have a great week, everybody. Hey Jess, welcome to the
Truthiest Life.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Hello, how are you?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I'm so excited to be here with you. I just
posted on my stories that I'm interviewing today and I've
had an influx of people that are so excited, some
of which found you through me years ago. But the
best part is they're like, she's my favorite person and
I found her through you, and I was like, yes,
(07:17):
that is what it's about, sharing your gifts with the world.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You know, it's crazy. Is anyone that has said, like, hey,
I found you through Lisa have been the most high quality,
genuine good Like the people that are in your orbit.
They're solid and you know they're not They're not messing around,
They're like living life to the fullest. And I'm like
(07:43):
every single person, I'm like, I can think of them
all right now. So if they're listening, I'm like, I
know who you are and like just good people that
really love you. And yeah, so thank you for sharing
that love.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well, I just loved it because it was like I
liked you, Lisa, but now I like Jess Moore and
I was like, you know what, that's for the greater
good because you truly do have gifts. And just to
speak to the audience and everybody, I really am so
lucky that I have such a core group of great people.
I totally feel that, and thank you for reminding me
(08:16):
of how special they are. And I think what I
love is like as I've gotten older, I've gotten less
good at the Internet and so like my inability to
go viral actually keeps me rooted in like real people
that have been with me through the years, so they're
not just like finding whatever. Anyway, it was tangential, but
I just wanted to say that these people are deaf.
You are all listeners. You are you are the real deal. Okay,
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So finding you was also magical and by way of Taylor,
who created camp Conscious a couple of years ago, four
years ago.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Actually I know, it's like a times flung by.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So I was like, weirdly on that trip. I wasn't
supposed to be and then I got on it and
I was on as a quote unquote creator and you
were there a talent and I had never seen you before,
but the second you sat down and did readings with us,
you completely shifted my mindset about tarant. I always say
it's Tarat, not Taro, right.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, it's Tarot Tara. It's uh, you know, I feel
like stay however, because you just wanted to stick because
any people try, you know, like with anything, I'm like,
what feels good and natural? But I call it taro.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Oh you do?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, but it's like a you know, so it's like
I would ever say like Tara, I'm like, I feel
like too elevated. So I'm like, you know, it's Taro.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Like, okay, got it. That's why I've been calling it
Taro all these years and everyone's like, no, it's tarat
and I'm like, I feel like I should know that
because I'm a little familiar with it at this point.
But no, yeah, Taro here, I like that. Yeah, so yeah,
you came up. We started camp conscious with tarot card polls,
and prior to that, I was unfamiliar with Taro in general,
and I was kind of like, this is kind of
(09:55):
gimmicky and stupid, you know, and then wham bam, I
pulled the card You've read back It's meaning to me,
and I was like, wow, well this is not stupid
at all.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You know, I think it gets a bad route to
a certain extent. I think there was a lot of
eighties movies that kind of sent it to a weird place.
And you know, Taro actually started in the church, which
is fascinating. So just as a lot of you know,
a lot of historical things have happened, you know, church
and war and all these like polarizing sides, you know,
(10:27):
I think it got kind of tossed in that whole place,
and the actual practice of it is absolutely so beneficial
and so empowering and really, like I guess the kind
of logistics of it is, you're taking your intuition, which
every single one of us have, you know, that that
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feminine energy, that knowing that you do not have to
be a professional territor energy worker to do so, you
just simply have that feeling and allowing yourself to go
deeper with it and feel it and take the time
to actually be present with it. And I think that's
the biggest thing with the intuition is we all have it,
we just are too busy ignore or have ten things
(11:11):
piled up or external you know, voices, opinions, mixing it
all up. So just the practice of allowing yourself to
have that sacred time with your intuition and what you're
feeling and also thinking. Because Tara also activates our more
masculine side, which is the action. You know, it's the
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feminine I feel, and then when you pull Tara, it's
the action. What is my brain thinking with this? What
does it want to do with this intuition? And that's
the place where with Tara you can kind of be like, ooh,
I like the choices I'm making, or no, I think
I want to shift it. It's not about telling your
future being locked in. We completely create our future every
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single second, so just allowing that process to take place.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, so you totally shifted my mindset around Tara. What
it is, how it's used, and like you said, like
how to put it into action. It's not actually about
you know, future predictions about what's going to happen into
your life, but it provides like a mirror as to
where you're at and then how do I feel. So
even if it's just like a stop sign to check
in with self, I have found it with you to
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be incredibly healing and directive. More than healing, helpful in
times when I.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Often you can tell your future when you start seeing
your past and prohais and you're like, oh, I create
a pattern, let me look at this deeper and let
me slowly navigate it to new places.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yes, yes, yes, so I have called on Jess in
moments of extreme uncertainty, and I'm pretty due for a
session now. We had to cancel on a few months back,
so we will be doing that hopefully soon if I
can get into your busy schedule. But before this session,
I sat down with my journal that I wrote in
when I was pregnant, so it was two years ago
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and pregnant and see you know, and many other stages
of life. But pregnancy for me was a highly emotional state.
And when you said, like there are voices in your
head or whatever, it is like just being emotional gets
in the way of clarity. So for me, even though
I had this amazing thing going on in my body
and I was so connected to it, there was a
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level of noise because I felt distraught a lot of
the times. So anyway, I just wanted to read really
quickly for anybody who's like, I don't get it, how
does this work? How spot on Jess is, and why
you should book your session today. Okay, so just on
the topic of pregnancy, you know, we pulled cards for
different things for my work, for my relationship, for pregnancy,
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for my baby's health, all of that, and two things
stood out. One about her energy. You literally said good
luck sleeping, and I know, like you think, like all
babies don't sleep, but particularly this one really rocked me.
So you were spot on there. And then with pregnant
see you had said labor will be energy forward favorable
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for a home birth, which ended up being extra extra true.
So yeah, you are just so tapped into me when
you are reading. Is that right? Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, definitely. And it's really a level of you know,
it's a level of intimacy. So you know, in any
other act we are creating intimately, it takes two people.
So I feel like we're getting to a time and
place in life where you know, people are showing up
for energy work or self development. So I have found
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in the last few years, and maybe it has come
with people's trust of me becoming more well known or something,
but when two people show up intimately, you share energy.
And I know we've all had those moments in different areas,
whether it's relationships or a deep connection with a family member.
But when you're there, you can read the whole well
(14:58):
maybe not everyone I can read. I can read the
whole blanket of existence. And in that place like miracles
and connection happened so profoundly.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Well, I'm so glad that work has taken off for you.
I see that every day. I want to go back
to when we met, because there isn't a distinct difference
in you then versus now uns only four years or
so since we met in person. So, like I said,
I met Jess and she was a blank slate to me.
I'd never met her before, I'd never heard of her before.
(15:31):
I just saw this like beautiful woman, very California vibes.
And my immediate take on you was like, you must
be a single, no kids woman living in California, surfs
all day, has very little like obligations, but it's very
just like tapped into energy work. And then obviously I
(15:51):
started talking to you and following you to find out
that you are a mother and you have older ish kid,
older than just babies. But your energy is and was
very free and it still is even though your work
I believe has like kicked up a bunch of not
just since then, what does it feel like to hear
me say that like you felt like such like a free, single,
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you know, non mother in that moment.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
You know, I hear that a lot, which is fascinating
to me because again, like I my like who I
am is a mom? Does it makes sense? But and
everything I do outside of it is supports her. But
you know, I think with really all this work I do.
In connecting to self and going through the phases of
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having kids, you have the ability to either, you know,
let it kind of consume you or let it completely
free you. Where you're like, wow, I have limited time.
I was even saw my Instagram, but I was literally
at school drop off about fifteen minutes ago, like looking
like a hot mess. And it changes time, you can
actually change it where you're like, you know, when we
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have all all the free time in the world, how
we kind of get locked up and just not we
get spun not doing anything. Oh, I'll get to it.
I'll get to it. When you when kids take place,
it's like I actually don't have time. What is my priority?
What feels good? And I can only do what feels
good because these people need me. And so I have
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found complete freedom in being a parent because I am
so clear on where I spend my time and energy
outside of it. And with that, it's like I only
want to put good in this world. I only want
to put energy back into it when I'm not focused
here because there is so limited time, it makes you
appreciate time more.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I hope that was okay that I said you didn't
feel like a mother I feel like the listener might
get that a little bit tangled, but no, I.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Like I said, I hear all the time. Then when
I'm at school, like and then people like look at
my Instagram and I'm like, ohh loo, hi, like don't
mind that, don't mind that photo or me talking to
the other side, but like, hey, has that pta me?
You know, duality, but both sides are equally true. And again,
I think that's the thing of you know, really tapping
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into self is like all versions of you can be
completely alive and true. One doesn't have to leave for
the other in a line. Again, that freereedom to expand
further and further. But it takes getting to know again yourself.
But sometimes it takes large events like having kids or
you know, some other big experience to say, hey, I'm
ready to like look in there.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
There's like this youthfulness about you. And it's not in
the way that you look, even though you do look
energized and all of that. They're just something about you
feel so young in the sense of free. Like that's
that's the word I keep coming back to for you.
And I'm just kind of curious as a newer mother
if there was ever a moment that you felt like
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tethered by having children or more restricted or have you
a We stayed in a state of flow.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
No, you know, so my kids are twelve and ten
this summer, and so they are older. I struggled so hard.
I was when they were a little so hard, you know,
the toddler age, really the baby age. I was so confused.
I was like, what is this? I felt very alone
(19:22):
during that time. You know, I was alone during a
lot of it. And you know, I've always done energy
work since I was a kid, in this other side work,
but never as like a career. And it literally saved
me from completely getting swallowed by parenthood because it was
so difficult, and you know, you don't have your life.
(19:45):
You know, everyone has a different experience with toddlers or babies,
but you change literally the version of you. The maiden,
you know, leaves and you become the mother, and it's
like who is it? So you have to relearn and
I'm sure you're in it right now. I'm in that,
am I? And then you know, honestly, once I kind
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of freed myself of actually becoming myself. Still it's the
easiest job in the world and I will say that.
And they're a little bit older and can cook their
own breakfast, and like you know, they shower on their own.
So there's a few other factors that go with it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I hear you on that, but again, I think it's
just like this state of flow and daily practices that
you do that I want to kind of get into
that I think allow you to have this relationship with
them with time, with motherhood that you know, we have
different relationships to those things, and enter what I am
calling recently lately like dimensions, Like I find myself in
(20:42):
different dimensions in different times, and I'm like, okay, well,
if I'm in the dimension and all alike right now,
like you know, it feels very like reality, but you're
over here in this other dimension, and so somehow I
got to climb back in. Yeah, okay. So it has
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been really exciting to recently watch you show up online
professionally as a mother. I am not on social media
a lot, and for whatever reason, I get little servings
of you. But I'm feeling like a huge shift definitely
from when we first met four years ago. But it
(21:25):
feels even like more acute than that. It feels like
something in the last year, maybe like changed in you.
Is there something that happened because you're leveling up, you're
working hard, but you're working hard in this way that
feels in such beautiful flow. Did something happen?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Am?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I am?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I off on this, you know, like a couple of
years ago, I you know, I was definitely in the
you know, flashback to parliament met I was a single
mom working hard, you know, just really like it was
hard work of something I love to do, so creating,
establishing a foundation of business. And that started working and
it felt good and it was it was let's call
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like my inner child or my old self being like
I canduce myself. I can work hard, I can like
push and she started to heal. That's the best way.
Does that make sense? Those places started to no longer exist,
you know, those stories I had in my head. The
I started seeing you know, there's only so long you
can tell yourself something, but when you look around, it's
(22:28):
a completely different reality. And I think we get stuck
in you know, these past dimensions. We're like, wait, I'm
not even in that room. Why do I keep on
bringing myself back there? And I couldn't, you know, I
wake up every day I meditate. I do practice this
all day. I'm in meditation for hours usual with clients,
and so I am in these altered states where you
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have to like check in and there was no room
for those old dimensions is the best way to describe it.
And I think we can function very hard in those
and be like, you know, kind of the broken person
going forward. And it's not that I fixed myself. It's like,
I absolutely love this broken, mediocre, perfect, disastrous human. It's
(23:13):
perfect the way it is. And instead of trying to
heal it, fix it, I just found such self acceptance
that was I think the healing point where it was
all good. After that, it was beautiful, and just went
forward going. I think we can do whatever we want
here on this earth. So what do I want to do?
(23:34):
And I just started making these microadjustments, you know, and
changing my reality into a dream situation instead of I
have to do this or you know again like old dimensions.
I'm using your line because I'm like, that's such a
beautiful way to describe that. People think you have to like,
you know, know physics, how to move between dimensions. It's
(23:54):
not it's all here in this moment. I think I
freed myself. Maybe what people felt on the external I
couldn't see. And once I freed myself of you are
perfect the way you are, and again, not perfect, but
existing in a thing of complete self love and understanding
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and loyalty to in here, everything changed external because it
doesn't matter what the external is doing, because it's solid here.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
A moment ago, you referred to self as she instead
of I. Very naturally. I'm just curious why you think
you did that. I don't think it was a conscious decision.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
She is my human right, it's where. It's my home,
and I definitely found a new level of love in
my home. I got sick a couple of years ago too,
and that made me realize, like, oh, I should really
love this home and take care of it. So you know,
she's my home. My viewpoint is from my soul, if
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that makes sense, Like this is my home. I take
care of it. She has emotions and opinions and moods,
and I love her to death. She's rowdy, gievous, but
who takes care of her is my soul.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Interesting, So there's like a more grandmother place from within,
the caretaker that takes care of your physical body and yeah,
who her mind? Your life form here right now?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah? Okay, And actually in that timeframe, I had a
moment in the shower where you know, I kept on
seeing reality, but I didn't want to break. I was
in my you know we'll call our human which is
you know, part of the animal world. I guess I
don't know, but she was trying to have you ever
seen a horse like break when they like tame a
(25:41):
wild horse. And she was fighting me, fighting me, and
I literally was all of a sudden seeing my existence
through my soul's eyes, and like she was fighting and
wanting to kick, and I kept on going closer. I'm
closer to her, like I've got you, I've got you,
and I was like breathing like like very prime mole,
and it was like watching this from my soul's eyes.
(26:03):
And then she finally just broke and gave in to me.
And again that was now talking about like that was
a key moment where I was like whoa, and I
switched over, and so I would say I am different now,
like there is an actual difference where my perspective is
coming from a different place.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And how has that changed your professional work?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
It has become very easy and fun and playful and
no worries. Because again, when you're like in purpose, whatever
that purpose is, whether you're like I want to hang
with my friends, that's my purpose today, and we our
purpose to shift throughout the days and years. But my
soul's purpose she is living completely and that is to
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allow the freedom, the safe place to play with this
energy body that it's pretty much in every which way
catching up where oh turns out we are in a
as well, So just align at the play freely.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I love that, and I see that, and I feel that,
and I'm very proud of you. You mentioned that you
practice energy work as a kid. I think that a
lot of energy workers, Reiki masters, tarot readers, any type
of healer, psychologists, like anybody that I know oftentimes becomes
a healer because they've healed themselves and they didn't have
(27:24):
access to these things. But you say that energy work
has been with you since you were a kid, So
how did you grow up? Because it's quite different than
me and I think a lot of our listeners.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, I mean, and I find I find a lot
of people that were like WHOA. When I was little,
I was able to connect or would see stuff, feel
suck was that my imagination. Imagination is true, so always
remember that is like anything, so get used to using
your imagination in the correct way. But when we are kids,
you know, before our root chakra, which is zero to
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seven years old, that is where we find our tribe.
That is where we lock into more of like who
am I socio economically? Who am I in? You know,
my family unit? Who am I in this world? So
we're locking in who our human character is. Before that,
it's freestyle. It's like I don't know what I am.
So you are still connecting to the other side, you
(28:19):
still relate to You can see other dimensions because you
haven't locked in this is who I have to be,
this is my character, this is my archetype. You know,
for a lot of people, they have experienced as a
lot of children are able to see more than you
know what we see. I'm sure your little one is
experiencing way more than how you just look. You know,
(28:41):
she's probably experiencing every essence of your being truly and
so as a child, you know, I call it like
a backwards ghost. I have memories before I came here.
I was a c section baby. There's a theory that
you know, when you're a C section baby. And I
think this is just an added piece to it. The
(29:01):
and I'm probably going to stay this wrong, but there's
a chemical release of when you go through the vaginal
canal that does happen, yeah, with C section babies, And
so I think and I think it my theory of
when I channeled. They say it kind of like allows
like a place of you know, write a passage or
a ceremony here, and a chemical amnesia to a certain extent.
(29:24):
So I think that mixed with whatever my soul's purpose was,
I picked a perfect storm for a human to be
able to connect to the other side. So when I
was little, I would see auras of other dimensions. You know,
I was just one of those strange kids. It wasn't
a big deal. We grew up, you know, I grew
up in Texas where religion was a huge thing, and
(29:46):
I think that actually fostered that comfort level of it's
okay to have a spiritual experience instead of like, oh,
this is weird. So it was just always kind of there.
I met the guide group that I worked with to
this day when I was about twelve years old. Learned
how to do basic channeling, And you know, I grew
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up in a very traumatic on paper upbringing, and I
do think it was a way to escape it. It
was a way to I'll stay in altered states so
I don't have to be in this state. So I
got really good at it as a child, and it
was just part of my practice all the way up
until life kind of pulled it into a work. Since
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you know, six years ago.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Your family life was traumatic. Is that what you mean.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yes, I think I was driving the other day and
I was like, I'm so freaking lucky to have my
dad and my mom. You know, it's like but as
on paper it was abuse. It was you know. I
remember running away to a women's shelter at night and
we had like as a family restraining orders. You know,
my mom not knowing I think, what to do with children.
(30:59):
So I became the parent to like five kids with her,
you know. So just the typical story of maybe that
type of world. But again, I can't find and this
is where kind of the healing took places. I can't
find any sort of pain in it anymore. It's such
a blessing. And that took twenty years, by the way, that's.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Not yeah, having five siblings too, I feel like maybe
like you've been mothering far longer than just your eight
and twelve year old so.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
That yeah, I definitely feel like there's like a theme
there that it was like, oh, I get it.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yes, but it's funny because you've got this like nurturing
mothering being. But at the same time this like for
every young energy, which is very interesting because it's not
like old soul. I'm not getting like that.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
But no, I definitely feel like I'm a very young soul. Yes,
I realize the rules here yet.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yes, yes, that is really well put. Okay, I love that.
So you brought up the word channeling, and it's something
that I'm a little bit familiar with and definitely try
and follow along when you're talking about it. But for
me and some of our listeners it might be a
foreign concept. So especially having like a group, what is
a guide group and what is channeling?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, so channeling. We all are channels. So I want
you to see it as like we're all a radio station.
We are constantly channeling. So again going back into that
root chakra of I'm channeling what my parents told me
I should be, I'm channeling what my teachers did. Society
says we should brush our hair. I'm brushing my hair.
TikTok right now says we should do you know, a
(32:36):
loose wave whatever. We are channeling that through our essence. Right.
So there's collective channels those imagine it streams like how
whales you know, swim along and they're different little places.
There's different streams. So we have large streams here on Earth.
We are white females in America. True, so that's a
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large stream that we swim in. We share that energy with,
you know, that whole existence. And so there's nothing wrong
with all these channels we are, I guess channeling through us.
But there's all this place of there's an individual channel
for all of us, meaning an individual radio station that
you can find that is only yours. And when you
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do that, you start tapping into higher channels. So let's
take it further. There's all the channels that exist outside
of the dimension we're in the Earth frequency and that's
more energetic state, and so there we have help just
as much we have other lives we were in, We
have memories, we have friends, we have such support from
(33:41):
things outside of this human experience and imagine it like
we can see our whole life through a little too.
I see you and this computer. It's true, it's not
not true. But when we learn to expand our channels,
Oh there's a cabinet right there. Oh there's some candles.
Oh there's a friend. Hey, what's up? Does that make sense?
(34:02):
So it doesn't make anything untrue. It just makes things
bigger and truer. So when you tap into higher channels,
you can tap into so much and you can find
your individual frequency there.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
And you can tap into beyond what you see. Like
you kind of gave examples of you know, cabinet, you know,
things that are directly in your room. But essentially, when
you channel, you go to places that are not necessarily
physically around you.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, and where my guides describe it is bright earth,
they call it heaven. It's where we exist outside of here,
and technically we're all there right now. We are just
just as when people listen to this, this will be
a memory. We don't exist, so it's going to be
an old essence of us. Technically we're right, but our
essence is still true. We're here, we are projecting this
(34:51):
sensation down to here. And so you just get a
clear signal on that.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
For years, I've been, you know, watching you talk about
channel and it's still a very foreign concept to me.
So I always tune in a little extra more when
you're talking about it because I want to I want
to get it. I want to understand, and so much
of your audience seems to understand what you're talking about already.
So there's a little bit of like catch up going
on when you go to your page for me. But
(35:17):
for years, and I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Good toback for me at least, I mean maybe you're
so I'm like, oh my god, you are so intuitive
and special. I'm like, okay, wait, if this intuitive special
the human doesn'tet it, I should probably learn to explain better.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
No, it's I guess it's just an element of intuition spirituality,
just like Taro was, you know, foreign to me until
I met you. So is channeling and using our minds
to go to places that we can't physically see. I
love it. I'm interested. I but yeah, it feels a
little intangible for me in my current practice. But anyway,
(35:54):
when you're channeling, you're often referring to the the I
read it as Anna's a and.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
A yeah, Oh that's Anna. I know she's from the future. Okay, HR,
we can talk about her. HR is my guide group.
They made up that name because I was like, I
have to name you guys at some point because it's
just light beings. And they're like HR and I was like, oh,
(36:21):
like HR like human resources and they're like, no, like
higher resource, and it just kind of stuck and it
was like a joke that they gave and I was like,
all right, guys, when when you.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Say like your guide group back at home, there are
those people or this is just like.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Usually where we meet up is in a classroom and
they have tas that sometimes help out. Oh, they have
the main So I mainly work with we'll call it
like a university of maybe it's a city college, who knows,
but it's an existence outside of there where they're also
learning and growing at support system and so it's always
a you know, symbiotic experience.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Oh okay, okay, got it. Okay, So go back to
HR now.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So that's the only guide group I work with besides
people's guides. So if we are doing a session and
when we've done that, I'm either tapping into it looks
like coding all around you, and this isn't something I
do unless I'm in I can tell how I tell
you all how to channel better if you know people
want help. But it's a coding all around us, So
(37:20):
that's where you can pull from it and kind of
tap into future stuff so you can see what's coming,
but you have free will to change it. Or I'm
working with your guides, which could be a variety of
guides coming in at that time, but HR is a
guide group I work with that I always just work with.
It's the easiest place they reside in, like the sixth
seventh dimension where most of us are from. And then
(37:43):
there's Anna, who you're referring to, which was by accident,
and she's from the future and it's always a trip.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
So where do you access Anna when you meditate?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I have to tap into that. It's like knowing how
to turn a dial. Got it into it and her
dial and why I kind of got refascinated with her
because years ago she was like, I'm part Ai. She's
from like six hundred years in the future. And I
was like, okay, you're part Ai. Don't get it, and
like you know, she was explaining how her phone is
like right here, not her phone, but like her, and
(38:14):
I was like, this isn't you know, Like this is
so kooky. I'm like, I'm such a kook. What am
I doing? And then this whole boom of like AI
you know, chat GPT has like came about where I
was like, ooh, I get it now, words is this
end and begin? And so I started recently tapping back
into her. But when I tap into that energy line,
(38:34):
it feels like talking on a walkie talkie to where
when I'm working with the guides, it's like the most beautiful,
warm hug coming in. It's so lovely.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
So let's talk about add a little bit more because
I think we all want to know about the future,
like what's going on in the future.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Why she contacted me, what she was trying. She's working
on a research paper of the beginning of unity consciousness,
and I was like, what is that? And she's like,
I'm doing a thesis on unity consciousness, something that exists
now and in the future. Apparently we're going to be
able to tap in and out of past and present.
(39:10):
But she's like I wanted to like try to go
far back, so I had to use someone who's a channel.
So I connected into you and so she was asking
like just kind of like, how's it there? So I
was like, how's it there? And she's explaining. This is
the fascinating part, probably the biggest takeaway beyond like I
think she lives in Utah. I know, we still have oceans.
We still don't take care of the ocean like liner
(39:33):
she's in Maury's. You know. She was explaining that unity
consciousness is this thing that just exists as much as
true as you know, okay, we are Americans that in
the future, ego is something that they've learned, just like
something else we would have of, you know, like any
other guess personality disorder, you start to be able to
(39:55):
identify it and work towards unity consciousness. And at first
I was like, that's so beautiful, that's amazing. But it
was fascinating because as the channeling was going on, I
could tell myself getting like and I think it was
my ego, getting really uncomfortable and like fussy about it.
And you know, she was explaining that it pops up
randomly and we as a collective take care of it,
(40:16):
but we see each other truly as one, truly as one,
you know, that thing of we're all one, and we're like, yeah,
I get it, but like it doesn't resonate. We're able
to get there in the future. But there's the people,
the naturalists or whatever she was calling them, that don't
participate in the AI half human world. But there's nothing
(40:36):
wrong with them. There's no battle going on. It's just
like complete love to them as well. Everyone can truly
be whoever they want and choose that, but they're choosing
unity consciousness. And when she was going through it, I
was like, my ego was like getting disturbed, and I
was like, oh, I don't know if I want to
be as one work as one. I like my butt head,
(40:59):
you know, since so I don't know. I like every
time I channel with them, it's like, what the heck?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
So this is six hundred years to go till this happens.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, But then she was explaining that we still don't
have it aligned with Earth and animal, like we still
see ourselves separate from that. Because I was like, She's like, oh, well,
the ocean's still dirty because something we've achieved as self
that is a truth, we haven't kind of fully landed
on it. So there's you know. So that's what I've
got from her.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Interesting. Okay, god, oh interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I'm like, I feel like this is such a freak show.
So no judgment everybody.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, no, Well, I mean, if you're still here, we
know that even if you're judging, there's a part of
you that was intrigued and a part of you that
believes it, and a part of you that doesn't want
to believe it because of yougo, because of you know,
all that stuff. So anyway, keep opening your minds, Keep
opening your minds. I like how you said everything in
your imagination is true, but what struck me about it
(41:55):
is you've recently said online something else that struck me
which kind of goes against it, which is manifestation is
a little bs. I don't know if that was your
wording or not, but how can imagination be true yet
manifestation be bs in your opinion?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Let's get into that, because and I think manifestation is
I think it was manifestation. Don't do it or it
doesn't work. And I'll explain that in a second, because
those are more like buzzwords for the actual like you know,
sensation behind it, but imagination, like everything we imagine it's
it's a dimension in itself. It doesn't have you know,
like atoms squished together. But our imagination is a place
(42:34):
that exists out there and it equally has life and
equally is true. So you know, imagination, use it, play
with it. When you have your imagination, realize the power
of it, or that place exists out there and you
can pull that energy into this dimension, into this world.
So let's go into manifestation that I might I say, manifestation,
(42:56):
don't do it is that's more or less of kind
of where I feel like manifestation has landed. I manifested.
I manifested like this latte, so energetically it feels like
it's getting cheaper se make sense creation, manifestation. There's energy
lines that we pull from imagination into this universe, right,
(43:20):
these really powerful, thick, beautiful, healthy energy lines. And manifestation
I think was whoa, we have the power to create.
This is beautiful and we've kind of taken it into
this place of manifesting your favorite latte or manifesting that
makes sense. And so I mean, and this is like
(43:40):
an umbrella statement that is not the hard, black and
white truth. But I hope get what I'm saying when
I say, manifestation has become like we had that amazing
superpower and everyone's just kind of bringing it into junk.
You know.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I love when you said like cheapened it, because I
think that's like a really great word to it's being
thrown around. It's being thrown around without not truly understanding it,
so and that's doing it a disservice.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Yeah, And it's okay to manifest a lot to It's
okay to manifest like again manifested, not being hung up.
I know. There's so much So anytime we speak something,
anytime we exist in something, it becomes true so energetically,
the stream of manifestation that even like eight years ago
felt much richer has gotten watered down. It's like a
(44:31):
beautiful peach. There's nothing wrong with the peach, but it's
become a canned peach. And there's nothing wrong with a
canned peach either. It's just why if someone's like, oh,
I really want to call in a beautiful life, or
I really want to call in feeling good in here
or kind of knowing what the heck I'm doing, there's
(44:52):
better ways to go about it now, to not borrow
from the canned peach energy. There's still beautiful essence, your
own essence that no one ever can and so really
talking about that more and that's kind of again, I
know we're going to talk about my course, but that's
kind of where we get to is understand your own
frequency and not having to borrow off the manifestation thing.
(45:13):
There's nothing wrong with it, but it's gotten thinner is
the best way to describe it.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Okay, got it? So actually I think that's a perfect
segue into your course because this is an incredible offering,
so soul led life. What can you tell us about it?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
So I created this course for basically, you know, as
far as sessions, I gratefully and thankfully am you know,
booked out a lot and I was like, well, what
teachings can I provide. There's a theme that goes across
the board when people, I guess and myself find each other,
and it's this thing of I'm ready to go deeper,
I'm ready to check in, I'm ready to drop in
(45:51):
into self. And so basically just taking all the teachings
that I've worked with my guides with putting it into
it the base of how to channel for yourself and
really for the place of speaking of manifestation, stepping out
of manifestation, like manifesting a life and going into complete purpose.
(46:12):
Purpose has such a rich frequency and when you land
in it and you're in it, the fuel that it
gives into your life, the miracles that take place in
that sixth sense energy is immeasurable. So really just teaching
people how to drop into purpose instead of manifestation and
(46:34):
in that place finding your own And then there's just
tons on integration because I think we're all of this
fall out of practices. When we fall out of practice
and we're like, yes, I know everyone here has had
an AHA moment and then you're like a month later,
like dang it, what happened. So an integration piece of consistency.
We have to be a human we are in this dimension.
(46:56):
We can't you know, just be fully you know, spiritual
beings all the time. We have to learn how to
participate in this world in our truest sense what feels good.
So just allowing that, and then you know, we have
accountability groups who are again just finding community, finding the
safe place to talk about these things or just be
in it or play or be like this is silly, Okay,
(47:17):
let's talk about it anyway.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Who would you say this course is for? Besides for everybody,
obviously everyone could benefit if they're going to really do
this work, But like, who will this land with right now?
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Anybody who's listening, anybody who has that ping right now,
that ping, that is intuition. So when something pings us,
we go, let's go further. And if you start existing
your whole life of following the breadcrumbs and the dots,
then again you really find your flow. You find in
that peaceful place. So if you pinged, I would say that,
(47:51):
you know, I mean, you can from all walks of life.
You could be a mother, you could be someone just
starting out in a career. You could be you know,
someone who is in the sense that season of their
life just winding things down where you're just like, wait,
I feel this going further. And I know that sounds
a little bit esoteric, but no, if you get the
ping to do it, that is what this course is about,
(48:12):
is listening to those pings and arriving to them further.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Wow. I love it because it's like very vague and
out there, but like you're not trying to be out there.
You just are out there at another dimension. So talking
to to us Earthlings is a hard thing. You're like, earthlings,
stop thinking so much. Just feel if you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
For the person that got the pin, who is in
the moment any of you guys get a ping and
then your brain's gonna go, No, that was your stomach. Girl,
Oh my god, am I Oh my god. So if
you're having those adverse reactions, that this course is for you,
because the voices don't stop. The like hard on yourself
(48:53):
never stops. There's no way to not have the dialogue
in your head. It's cruising within it, knowing your steady
place so deeply. As this voice has come along, you're like, hey, hey,
and I'm going forward. You know.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
I think this course is for me, is what I'm learning,
because integration has been my word for almost a year now.
That keeps coming up for me and I step into
it and then, like you said, I fall out of
it because it's really hard in my life at least
to stay in it. The practices that keep me in it,
I oftentimes have to like do very separate from my
(49:27):
normal life. Yeah, So, like, what will specifically be learned?
Can you share any specifics, so as far as.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Like the integration part and then we'll work backwards because
that's kind of the more second part of the course.
It's it's about like, Okay, I don't have time to
sit and meditate or go make an you know, go
make a feather crown and you know, put my feet
on the ground. This is learning those different places of
(49:55):
integration within everything we do because again I'm a mom,
a bit business owner, you know, I'm mini roles where
you learn that integration and what you're doing your purpose
rather than having to if I do this, it works
because when we do things and the energy is not there,
it doesn't have the same you know, resons on it.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
So true, it's I mean, yes, that's definitely a thing
I found in my life when my under That's one
of the reasons I have never been able to be
successful quote unquote with Instagram. Like I really envy people
that plan their content and do it in such a
beautiful professional way that it's sustainable to them and they've
got a flow. But like if I ever planned something
(50:38):
and I post it like a month a week later,
like it falls flat. Whether it's a recipe or something
from my heart like nobody cares. But if I post
it from that moment, impact yes, because the energy is alive.
So there's an endless source of energy that lives inside
of you and intelligence that cannot be taken away. And
so the course is really about just sitting in that
(51:01):
place constantly. And again, you do not have to be
a channel or a terror raider.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
This can be I. You know, I am just even
a stay at home mom and this works for me.
So this course begins when Presell is June twenty eighth.
Through the first it is basically three hundred dollars off.
Then it's five seventy five instead of eight seventy five.
The course is we already filmed it. I think it's
(51:26):
like six eight hours, a whole manual with it the
accountability group. So as far as value, it's incredible. But
I wanted to do the Precell then because we actually
launch it, mean you can view it the beginning of September.
Because I'm a mom and I go off during the summer.
I like to know what I'm going to learn in
the fall. You know, I go through seasons and energetically,
(51:48):
even the fall is when we ground down. So I
didn't want too hard. Launch it in the summer because
I wanted people want the first time I ever did
any training and energy work, I had to be on
the slowest payment plan. I couldn't afford something that completely
changed my life, but I had that ping, and so
I also wanted to never have anybody not be able
(52:09):
to do something, but also honor my time and my
energy and putting into it. So in June there's an
amazing payment plan to get you there in an easy way,
so again paying forward what was given to me to
change my life. And yeah, then you just know your
fall plans and then you're like, I'm going back this.
So it's back to school in September, but you need
to register for school and know your plan. So that's
(52:32):
kind of basically why I did that. So it launches
September seventh, the actual where you can access it, and
then our accountability groups live calls with me doing our
thing right out through the rest of the year, so right.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
So it's a long term, yeah, and you'll have your
support all throughout the fall to really integrate into.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
That exactly, and you just know your plan. You're not
like September going shoot, I didn't budget for this it's like, Okay,
I can do this. I can make it happen and
at a better price.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Okay, So we're going to put that information below for
so led life where you hopefully you have a link
ready soon that I can grab from you, and we'll
put that all below so everybody can tag along. I
want to go back to what or second your guides
because the question popped up when you said again that
you had that guide group and you went to it
during like a tumultuous time of your life. I'm still
(53:24):
uncertain are these physical people like a group or no?
This is just like the channel that you entered and
found yourself in. Like so I don't mean to say
is it real or not? But like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
I mean, it might not be real, but you know,
we might all be crazy. But that's kind of the
fun of life, is like what are we doing? Like
what rules really exist? But they do not exist on
the earth plane.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Okay. I thought this was because I thought it was
like associated maybe with your religion the way you had
said it. No, this is just a place that you
entered and found your guide group and you've been meeting
with them since then.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
Yeah, so I find most people that are in my realm,
most probably people that listen to you if I'm speaking
for you, and probably the people in your frequency because
we exist in the same frequency space. Most of us
reside outside of human experience in the sixth and seventh dimension,
and so we're all kind of just like neighbors in it. Now,
you can probably meet somebody on this earth that you're like, whoa,
(54:22):
I don't get it, I don't get I can't connect.
You know, they're probably not in your soul group. Then
you meet, you know, and there's nothing wrong with all
these levels of energy. You know. It's like, we don't
judge a third grader for not knowing high school algebra.
We don't. You know, I'm probably the third grader, by
the way, So you know, I think again, like, you know,
nobody knows anything, and it's just one of those things
(54:44):
of this is the best way they explain it, the
best way to describe what happens beyond this life. We
have a very rich, full life beyond this life. And
so while you're here to really own it and live
it to the fullest, because it's a very moment.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
I have these two best friends, their newest friends, and
their their mom friends, and I call them my We
have like a group chat on text messages and I
named it Alternate Universe Besties because it's really strange. But
I feel like they live in an alternate universe and
I love the universe that they bring me into. What
do you think is going on there?
Speaker 1 (55:20):
Like?
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Do they are they in a different frequency than me?
Speaker 1 (55:23):
Roll with me on this. You naming it alternate universe? Yeah,
literally are naming the truth. Anything we do is true.
That makes sense, and if you don't like your truth,
you've got to switch it. So that is true. There
are your alternate universe friends. So probably you know, from
an alternate universe is usually they reside in a different frequency.
They're channeling in from a different place. But you're like, ooh,
(55:45):
I like, you know, it's like meeting a friend from
a visy. You're like, let's buy. It's not like your similarities,
there's nothing, you know, if you really believe we're all
one beyond every dimension, it's all good. And yeah, so
they're just they're just your girls from alternate universe. And
it's fun, it's invigorating, it's chemistry and just like we
take a cake. How some chemistry totally like flows in
(56:07):
some it's like that falls flat. It's like when chemistry
is there, it's like live in it and enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
And it's fun. It's spicy, and I love finding like
different people and I feel like they've brought me to
a different dimension. But I have to stay with them
to get to that dimension. Without them, I can't access it.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Yeah, oh, this is something in the course too, you
learn because some of us are portals, some of us
are grounding stations, some of us are nucleuses. Like we're all,
you know, archetypes, and this is like more of a
psychology thing of understanding archetypes, but we have energetic archetypes too,
So learning you know what your archetype actually is. And
then you're like, oh, you're probably like an explorer where
(56:47):
you're like, oh, send me on your rocket ship girls,
you know, like let's go.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
It's fun to be anywhere besides what you know.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
You know, Yeah, it's exactly.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
So you're gonna be teaching some of that in your
course too, some of them archetype, psychological archetypes of energy.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
You know, we go through a whole test on learning yours.
Does it make sense? So you're interacting with it to
basically understand what your energetic archetype is.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Well, this course is going to be such a huge success,
and I'm so excited to see you step up outside
of doing one to ones, because you've got such a
gift to this world. And like I've said, you've helped me,
in my least clear moments find clarity. And looking back,
it's even more like, Wow, she was spot on. There's
so much more in there that I didn't read from
our session two years ago. That's a little bit more private,
(57:33):
but like you've got the gifts and you're using them
and you're in purpose and it's so inspiring. And you're
also an alternate universe friend, like you and I are
not from the same place. But when I'm with you,
I'm like holding on for the ride, going for it,
you know, and it's fine.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
And when I'm in your energy, I'm like, I feel
like smart and cool cool. I am not smart, I
don't know standards. You're the cool girl, You're the coolest.
I'm being very genuine when I say that, thank you.
It's hard for me to receive that for some reason,
special like a part of something good, if a part
(58:09):
of something good when I'm in your energy.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
Thank you so much, thank you for being here, thank
you for living your truthiest life and helping all of
us live our truthiest life. I think we all leave
here feeling like a little bit more brave to be
our true selves because you did that today.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
Thank you, truthious. I love it. Yes, amazing Girlvell. So
good to see you, so good to thank you.
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