November 13, 2025 • 30 mins
On this week’s MiniPod, hosts Tiffany Cross, Angela Rye, Andrew Gillum, and Bakari Sellers are joined by the prolific organizer and political strategist, LaTosha Brown.
Ms. Brown wants you to stay home on Black Friday weekend. Target, Home Depot, and Amazon have all rolled back their DEI initiatives. We need to make them feel the pain. More broadly, it’s economic actions like these that leverage our PEOPLE POWER to redistribute the wealth.
Learn more about BlackOUT Friday at https://weaintbuyingit.com/
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome home everyone.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
We are thrilled to be joined today for our mini
pod our dear sister.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
She just celebrated a birthday this week. She is a legend.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
A civil rights hero of our time. You all will
read about her in the history books. But Tip and
I at least get to call her a machete sister friend.
I know Bakari and Andrew are gonna get mad they
call a sister too. But this is the legendary co
founder of Black Voters Matter, Natasha Brown, and also the
Southern Black Girls Collective.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Did I get it right?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
He'll be no, you didn't get it right. But it's okay.
Girls and Women's Consortium and Women's Consortia.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
And get the sea word right. It's okay.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
But what you gotta know is Latasha fights for all
of our people, whether they in the South and north east,
the West, across the continent. She is here because she
is fighting now to en sure that we get our Say, Latasha,
you have just launched, in coalition with some others, really
robust boycott initiative and I want you to talk about
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we ain't buying it.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
We ain't buying it.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
We are not buying that we live in the wealthiest
country in the world and we cannot take care of
its citizens. We ain't buying that you can give a
trillion dollars over a trillion dollars over the next however
many young years, next decade to a thousand wealthiest people
in this country, and you cannot supply for food stamps,
(01:35):
You cannot make sure that people don't lose the ACA,
they don't lose their subsidies for health care.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
We ain't buying it.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
We ain't buying that you can actually go and spend
three hundred million dollars on a.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Gold gilded dining room.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
At the same time, people including veterans, are standing in
line for hours. So we ain't buying it. And because
we ain't buying it, we ain't buying with people that
staying with that foolishness. And so we've launched a campaign
that literally we are talking. There are three companies who
have actually capitulated, have stood with this administration, have backed
away from their DEI commitments, Target Home, Depot and Amazon.
(02:13):
We're coming for you on Thanksgiving weekend. We're asking people
just like we're not buying this fool shis. We're not
buying and spending our money with companies that are not
literally standing up for democracy and standing to protect us
when there are people that are seeking a government.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
That seeking to harm us.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Again Amazon, and I did say the Amazon because I
know everybody started like.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Today, but I got a message with that.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I got a cool I got a tip with that
Amazon Home depot and Target.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
The home depot easy. I'm gonna have to I'm gonna
talk to Ellen about Target. Make sure she stay out
of that one. That's the one I'm worried about.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
She should have been out of. We've been, but she
kind of got.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
But that's it.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Okay, let me let me just do an Amazon is
gonna be I'm not gonna lie. It is gonna be
very hard. It's a Seattle headquarter company. I want you
really quick LB to get into why you chose those
particular targets no pun intended. And also if you can
talk about the importance of an economic boycott within a
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truncated time frame, because normally, I think, especially in this
day and age, people are like, are you really going
to get a win. If there's an end of the matter,
what is the purpose of having an end to the
boycott and why wasn't it extended beyond just Thanksgiving weekend
at Black Friday on.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
So let me say this, this is not a boycott.
This is an economic action. And so it's okay because
there are boycott's target isn't actually full fledged boycott, And
with a boycott there's a particular specific ask, there's a
negotiation that goes around there, and there's an expected outcome.
What we're saying is that we have economic power. Not
only we have political power flex, but we have that's right,
(03:58):
we all flex. We have economic power. And what we
know is twenty to over forty percent of sales for
the entire quarter most companies on that weekend alone, They're
projection for the next six months are determined by that
we can and so this is really while it is
we're lifting up the companies, this is really about us
building our muscle. Like listen, I love the shop online
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like the next person. Matter of fact, and all I
understand Amazon truck just left my house. I'm looking out
the way that has just left my house. So I
get it right back they're right there, right, But ultimately, y'all,
if we cannot create the kind of discipline for four days,
well we're saying that we've got to start developing the
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muscle and the discipline that when people are not supporting
us or allowing what, we're just gonna let We're just
gonna support these folks who are capitulating. They're going up
on the White House like given their basically promising their
first born child to an administration that is being hurtful in.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Harmful to us.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
And so while this is yes, we're we're looking at
how we use our money. We want people to be
more conscious about their spending. More than anything, We want
folks to be conscious about their spending to leverage that
particular weekend because it is such a significant It is
the largest retail weekend of the year, and it can
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have a dent in that truncated space. Now, there are
some folks like the Target boycott. The Target boycott hang
on end is going to continue until they meet their demands,
and there are other actions that are happening as well
that people are really talking about what they can do
to continue, and we want people to be activated in that.
But this is a way for us to actually show
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and demonstrate, you know. Part of reasons why our power,
part of reasons why I think elections work is because
they have a there's like a timeframe, right that you know,
there's the election is gonna happen this day, and there's
gonna be some choice and.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Decision made by that day. Right, what can happen?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Particularly traditionally with boycotts, they can go on for a month,
they can go on for a couple of years, they
can go on, and and they should. I am actually
a support of that. But this is a design in
that way. This is an economic action for people to
actually reflect, to be more consciously aware of how we
spend our money and who we spend our money too,
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and that there is a collective action we're going to
take that weekend to send a message that we ain't
playing with y'all, Like at the end of the day, we.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Are not buying.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Let me ask a question real quick. Is there is
there I think you answered it just now, But is
there an ask that that goes along with this economic action?
Are we asking these companies for something?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Or yeah, you mean like stop being racist, but like but.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Like a specific like a specific ask and or because
I mean it could be both. Is this Is this
a message to the world and organizing messaging tactic that
we're using, because by the way, I'm all in. I
just need to figure out. You just need to tell me, well,
why we hear what we're doing, and what the end
result gonna be. But I'm all in because I follow
you anywhere.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Well, you just need to ask.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
I'm with you just in case somebody asked me what
I'm doing, I need to be able to tell them why.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
All right, nice to have you on the show. Welcome Home.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So part of what I think you know, I'm glad
you asked the question, which is why I wanted to
early upfront to distinguish this is not a boycott and
a boycott and a boy this action in terms of
when you're buying it. Now, there are boycotts that are
part of this right and for example, the target boycott
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was a target fast and it's turned into a full
fledged boycott. They have specific list of demands that people
have been organizing around that they're actually in negotiations with
where they actually want some in right, and then there
are people are actually now in this.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Space around home, depot.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
What you're going to see is there's been an official
call uponme depot, and where the folks who are organizing
with that have a specific ask. This is an organizer.
I'm an organizer and this right here is an organizer
container for a couple of things. One is not just
about the companies. What I want people to know are
particular the folks that listen to this, this is about
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you too, that ultimately we want the companies to do right,
but we ain't got to do right.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
No, we gonna have to do better. We're going to
have to be much more conscious.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Much more disciplined, much more directed with our spending. So
for me, what the big part of this campaign is
really about raising the consciousnes, the consciousness and the awareness
that we are consumers and we've got power. When I
look at black folk in this country, we've got one
point eight trillion dollars in it, literally in billion dollars,
(08:54):
I'm sorry, in consumer power. That's a lot of power, y'all.
That when we're looking at how are we using that?
Why are we still continuing the same kind of spending
habits which many of us are right I'm guilty of it,
Like the next person that many of us are spending
using the same kind of spending habits out of convenience,
out of this is what we like. This is a
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brand we like. This is the store down the street
from me. I mean I got some cool stuff from
Target when I was shopping there, right, But ultimately, I
don't love Target more than I love my five year old.
Like my five year old, I don't love Target more
than I love my family. That right now, we're looking
at them losing their health benefits. Where a family member
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of buyds her health insurance would go up from two
hundred and sixty dollars a month to almost two rands.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
She can't afford that. That's more than all that's the
morning the bills in our household.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
So we've got to use the pressure. However we can
use that pressure. But more than anything for this particular campaign,
this campaign.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Is for us. It is for us to really.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Think about our spending choices, our habits that we're actually
contributing to businesses that are hurting and harming us. So
it's not just they gotta do right, we gotta do right.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
LB.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Can I just and I know T if you need
to get in here Andrew.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You two, I just want to do one quick fact
check just because I love you, sister, and you going
it is two point one trillion, and it is trilli,
but it's well Nielsen, Nielsen.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I'm gonna give you if you say, I just want
to I said trillion in back off a billion, but right, okay,
I'm gonna taking.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
But I'm with you on that. I just want to
make sure we take the whole Yeah, Like, let's be clear.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
If it's between one.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Point eight and two point one somewhere in there, that's
a whole lot of money, so Youney, and that is
not our wealth. That is what we spend. This is
also a discipline exercise of be I hear you. I'm sorry,
and I do.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Want to say about the companies earlier, and I know
tif you got a question earlier when I was asked
the question why these companies target rolled back their DEI commitments. Right,
target customer base forty percent of their customer base, y'all
are multicultural shoppers. They're people of color. We're keeping them floating.
So when you looking at Amazon, Amazon Cyber Monday, just alone, y'all,
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that is the biggest online shopping day of the year,
believe it or not, multicultural almost at the same rate,
we're the ones that's buying online, and believe it or not,
it's our Latino, our Latito brothers and sisters that is
the biggest, the biggest vehicle for them in terms of
online shopping. And we're seeing what's happening with that when
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we're looking at home depot the same thing. Not only
home depot policies, but they got the mitigative goal right
to actually call folks having workers that are outside like
they've exploiteded. Now they're actually providing that information to ice
and surveillance information. No, you can't take our money and
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not staying with us and just exploit us.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
That's not gonna go now. That's why we ain't buying it.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But to do that to Andrew ask your question, you
stand up, listen. I feel like Lytasha framed the message
on this herself. First of all, we ain't buying it
definitely came from because you said it like you own it.
We ain't buying it. I believe you. I believe you fully.
(12:28):
I like this action, this flex action, economic flex because
too often we're taking for granted and we allow society
media and others to reinforce our disempowerment. And what this campaign,
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in my mind, seems to do, is to reinforce the
fact that we have power and choice about everything. Your
choice to not vote is a choice. You could go
or you could not. You're exercising a choice when it
comes to your money. Yeah, that store may be closer,
it may look like it have better sales and discounts
on for you, But guess what if you ride just
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a little bit further down the street, that one's got
some stuff and they got better stuff up the block,
down the street, round the corner. It's a choice. And
I just I think in this time talking about meeting
the moment, Angela, you know we're talking about all these
We're talking about powerful people and how they meet the moment,
and how this public figure is meeting the moment. Well,
how are we, as regular everyday people and more specifically,
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regular everyday consumers meeting the moment. We may not have
the platform, we may not be the elected official, we
may not be you know, the basketball player or the activists,
but every single one of us has the ability to
flex when we want to. And this, to me, the
collective flex is one that requires our neighbors, our friends,
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our family others to participate. I just hope that all
of us deputize, not just ourselves, but our family members,
remind them, talk to them about what this is, because
it ain't nothing worse than a flex and a muscle
don't pop out, that's right, that's right, So you can't
flex and then no, nothing show up.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
And I will say to this too.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
You know, I can't tell y'all how many times I've
been in conversations recently around you know, we need a
Martin Luther King, we need a leader, we need and
every time I hear that, it actually aggravates me. Let
me tell you why, because I think it's a compound.
At the end of the day, it's a compound. What
you what you say to me is you want somebody
that's willing to give their lives to You want somebody
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to go on the uh, to be out there, put
them themselves in dangerous way, and you don't have to
change anything about your behavior, Like we can't do that.
At the end of the day, if we are and
as we will defeat this author terranism, it is going
to require something of all of us, and damn it
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if you can't wait, if you can't go four days
without spending some money, I don't know what to say
to you, right, you know, I don't I don't know,
I don't have any I don't know what to say.
But I think it's you know, even in the campaign,
just the functionality of the campaign. I want folks to
understand there are three companies that we're highlighting because there
are actions already going on and right, and that's what
made it for us. We thought that that would lift
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it up, lift up work that was ongoing, work.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
That is happening.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
But we're we're actually saying, don't spend any money that weekend,
and if you already spend money, spend money with local,
black owned or smaller women owned companies that week in.
So that's why each day on Thursday, we're saying, spend
time with families, don't spend time with folks, don't spend money.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
We ain't spending no money. We spending time with our families.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
On Friday, that which they call black Friday, we call
it a blackout Friday. It's gonna be the blackest Friday
they ever seen. Because what we're gonna do is we're
gonna make sure that we're lifting up in that space.
They're gonna be actions going on across the country in
different stores, and we're asking people to not buy on
Black Friday, to send a message of our consumer power.
That Saturday and Sunday, we're saying, spend small, that small Saturdays,
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small Sunday, spends with small businesses, black owned, some of
these businesses that have lost some of their contracts or
they have lost their foot traffic. And on Monday we
going you're talking about cyber Monday. No, it's gonna be
a cyber shutdown. We are saying telling folks to lead
your apps, do not buy online, and more importantly Amazon,
make sure that we're lifting up that we are not
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shopping and buying anything from Amazon.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So it is a four.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Days very trunk k five days very trunkeated in a
space that we believe that we can actually show the power,
use our consumer power and to send a message and
it can feed into larger actions, ongoing actions.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
That are happening.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I love it, Pasha.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
I want to talk about the home depot piece and
I'll shift topics a little bit, but I just wanted
to make this point to our audience I'm having some
work done house now, and there are workers who live
in Maryland and they're saying, we're not coming to d
C right now. So we have to do everything via
FaceTime or WhatsApp because literally crossing state lines, they could
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be disappeared or deported. And I know that our community,
there are small pockets of our community who do not
feel in solidarity with this community, and I want to
caution us that if we let them turn us into monsters,
then we are no different. The same way a vampire
can suck blood from your neck and convert you into
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another bloodsucker. We can't allow that to happen. I know
it's frustrating.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
It's not real in the literal sense.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
But I know it's frustrating for black folks who are
spiritually and mentally and physically exhausted at what they're going through.
But we have to consider the humanity of other people.
I think that is just our superpower. So on that note,
I always say, if I could bottle Natasha up and
give her away for Christmas, I would do that. You
are Love's evangelists, and you can turn anyone into a
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devout follower.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Of whatever do.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
They if you get your on them, you get your
hands on them, then then you can and a lot
of us we had the privilege of having them a
few hours on the day before your birthday, not on
your birthday, but but talking and just about what we're
going through. And people are hurting right now. You know,
people don't have food to eat. People their children are hungry,
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People are dealing with healthcare crisis. People are dealing with
alien parents, people are dealing with alien children. People are
broke or their spirits are broken. It's just a heavy
season right now for black folks, but for everybody. You
have always, when I've been in the darkest moments of
my life, been a beacon of light. And so I
can't give you away to everybody for Christmas, but in
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the gift of giving this season, I just wonder what
words of love you might be able to offer to
all of us who are going through challenges, no matter
what we look like or no matter what we're going through.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
You know, the good news is if I was dependent
upon let's say, in the government to fix this, y'all
see how that's working, right, or political parties to fix this,
I would probably feel a sense of helplessness if I
was looking at the benevolence of Trump or the white folks,
or whoever it is that we think gonna save us,
I would feel that. But that ain't where I get
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my source for That's not my source of strength. That's
not where I've ever gotten my.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Source for strength.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I am a daughter, a great great great grandchild of
somebody who had been enslaved.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Right, and all of the new before that was enslavement.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I am the grandchild of a man and a woman
that couldn't even register until they were in their late sixties.
I am I come from folk who in the deep
Deep South that could not and did not have freedom
of movement, did not have the right to vote. We're
not even treated humanely, right, So how dare I having
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access to all that I have access to to not
really use the power that they used, and that power
was they use their humanity? Y'all that ultimately we have
got to understand that. I do believe I am, like
you said, I'm a lover. But I do believe that
you know, you know I am as y' all know
as Machelli's no.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Since I got me.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
A beautiful telescope for my birthday, just I'm just flexing
a little bit. But right, I have been obsessed with stars,
and I just want to share this real quick.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I've been obsessed with stars, and part of.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It is, you know, the idea that in our universe
there are billions of stars, but there are billions of universes.
So I need people just to get your wrap your
head around that, right, and stars are always out but
right now it's daytime for many of us, and I
can't see the stars. I can't see the stars, but
they're still out there. It is only in the night
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time that I see the light from the stars. And
the interesting thing about seeing the stars in that moment
that there are sometimes that when you look at there's
some stars, you see that those stars are not even
don't even exist anymore. Some of the stars that we're
looking at are actually called dead stars. All you were
seeing is their former glory days. That it took that
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long for that light to travel to us to perceive it,
and so we're seeing it. But ultimately that's start gone on,
that start don't even exist anymore, is the residue of
its former self. And then there are other stars that
are being born every day. And why am I saying
that it is in the darkest night in this country
that black folk have always been the stars to lead
the way. Harriet Tubman followed a star, a north star forward,
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And I thought that the north star was the brighton
star in the sky when I started kind of research
about stars.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
It's not the brighton star. You know what it is.
It is the most consistent. It is the star that you.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Can always depend on. Sometimes it's the brightness, sometimes it's not.
And I'm saying that black people got to know who
we are, that we have always been the stars to
actually lead the way to democracy. We have always been
the stars to say it don't matter what you say
about me. You can put all kinds of anti blackness,
you can put whatever you want to put it. Ultimately,
I will still rise and I will also bring and
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open that space up for others. So in this moment
where we are feeling this darkness, this is the moment.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Baby, turn your light on, like put your lightners up.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
This is the moment that you need to whatever it
is in you, your humanity, that's when you cut that on.
And you're being called in this moment. So I don't
think I don't want to minimize that is this a
heavy moment. Absolutely, I don't want to minimize the fact
that are people suffering and struggling. Absolutely, But we have
always had to deal with racism, we have always had
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to deal with economic barrier, some of us more than others.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
And we have always found joy and found a way out.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
And so all I'm saying is, perhaps God in the universe,
because I'm a personal faith perhaps this moment we just
it's your showtime. Maybe in this moment where we're in
the darkest night of this country, maybe this is the
moment that our stars are supposed to be shining their brightness.
And all that means, in my opinion, is that we've
got to go back to be in community. We've got
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to use our power. We can't just go around and
spend money and not be conscious of it. We can't
go around and say things and not be conscious of it.
We can't go around and repeat things that we've heard
on Instagram or somewhere and not be conscious of it.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Why. Because we are at war, and when you are
at war, you move differently.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
You're far more disciplined, You're more disciplined in your thoughts,
you're more disciplined in your movement. And so this is
the moment that I think is being called for us.
It don't really matter what the other folks gonna do,
because they've been pretty.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Consistent for four hundred years.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
The question is what is it that we're going to
do that's going to be different, that creates a different
kind of result. And I think this is a opportunity.
It's a bad space that we're in, but this is
also an opportunity for us to shift the frame from
seeing ourselves as citizens of this bason, this bootleg nation
that we're see in right now, to start seeing ourselves
as founders of a new America, the founders of a
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nation that we design, we deserve that we're going to create.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Reading the hearing and the doing of his word, Latisha Brown, well,
I love'll feerless leader, We love you.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Please come back and thank you y'all. Come on, like,
go to our website. I got to go because I
actually have to got to go to a doctor's visit.
But if you can go to we ain't buying it
dot com And we want people to make it their own.
This is campaign isn't held by one group or one person.
Make it your own because there are other folks and well,
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you know what, they add all kinds of stuff in
that list. My niece to day had about fifteen different
co is that she was like, Oh yeah, I'm not
going to.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Them because they did this, this, they did that.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
So part of the spirit is there's a spark, there's
a space. There are folks around the nation that are
gonna do some actions. Use your power right because we
are baying before you.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Go, it's real quick.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Can you just give us one little, one little note,
you give us something on your way out.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Our note is, well, the first thing I did right
was the day I started to fight.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Keep your eyes on.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Did not mean and.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
If you were on the street, you wouldn't know that.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
If you wet, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
We're y'all, you and mute you want to hear you.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I'm still.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Like, let the audience your time.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
You can't tell me. You can't tell me how my
spirit moves.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Know what I'm saying, that's the music.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
They don't know. They don't know, y'all.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Andrew the ain't never been to the morning being don't know.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
They're trying to dictate that.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
We want to know.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
How about the job just saying. This is why she
does it impromptu, because yes, because I'm gonna go.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Well, the first thing I did right was the day
I started to fight, keep your eyes on the price.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
And hold on, hold on, because we ain't buying it
by y'all.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I'm going he's out, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
But I'm just gonna say this. I I actually appreciate
call and response. It is in our nature to be,
you know, instantaneously responsive. We do it on the podcast,
that's what we got.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
But he's.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Doing that. But my point is I really think that
I get it. And so I'm sorry for hitting y'all
so hard, but I was really mad.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Because I wanted to just hear Latasha.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
And what she normally does is she'll come into a
speaking engagement or into a segment on air and just go,
and so people don't really have this chance.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I'm not saying the audience, I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I'm doing it a really terrible job apparently, but I
didn't piss them off.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I love them, but I really did just want to
hear Atasha. That's not what we were doing. They about.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
They actually they want to actually they do, and this
is actually one of those moments where I think people
need to have something to hold onto. And one thing
that I really believe LB does so well is she
can snatch hope out of a very dark circumstance and
she does it with the power of her spoken and
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melodic word. And so we appreciate y'all for going on
mute while you're saying horrifically. And even though you you
felt like you were a team player, you were not.
And it was as annoying as Andrew's lawnmower in the background.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
So there's that. I love you. Guys got the spirit because.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
They can't they how the spirit moves us, the jealousy.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
They can't even hit the notes, not one of them.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
They don't even hit them.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Thank you ahead of my.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
You don't even know. You don't need. First of all,
protocol has not been established.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Okay, I don't know what after church. You go to
teen team drums and no bass drum, but I go
to Koji church.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Protocol it's always indeed.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
You're not telling the truth because you have still been
in church today.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
If you were Kojing, the complication was this church just
got to just hit the letter.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I go to Church of God in Christ My church
is progressive. We end on time now everywhere else. If
there's a regional meeting, we're gonna be there till three
p m. But no, today we are out of church.
Who is not in churches, y'all and y'all definitely not
in a choir that said, we thank you.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
You have let me open some mail.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Welcome home, Welcome y'all.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome home everyone.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
We are thrilled to be joined today for our mini
pod our dear sister.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
She just celebrated a birthday this week. She is a legend.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
A civil rights hero of our time. You all will
read about her in the history books. But Tip and
I at least get to call her a machete sister friend.
I know Bakari and Andrew are gonna get mad they
call a sister too. But this is the legendary co
founder of Black Voters Matter, Natasha Brown, and also the
Southern Black Girls Collective.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Did I get it right?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
He'll be no, you didn't get it right. But it's okay.
Girls and Women's Consortium and Women's Consortia.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
And get the sea word right. It's okay.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
But what you gotta know is Latasha fights for all
of our people, whether they in the South and north east,
the West, across the continent. She is here because she
is fighting now to en sure that we get our Say, Latasha,
you have just launched, in coalition with some others, really
robust boycott initiative and I want you to talk about
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we ain't buying it.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
We ain't buying it.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
We are not buying that we live in the wealthiest
country in the world and we cannot take care of
its citizens. We ain't buying that you can give a
trillion dollars over a trillion dollars over the next however
many young years, next decade to a thousand wealthiest people
in this country, and you cannot supply for food stamps,
(01:35):
You cannot make sure that people don't lose the ACA,
they don't lose their subsidies for health care.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
We ain't buying it.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
We ain't buying that you can actually go and spend
three hundred million dollars on a.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Gold gilded dining room.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
At the same time, people including veterans, are standing in
line for hours. So we ain't buying it. And because
we ain't buying it, we ain't buying with people that
staying with that foolishness. And so we've launched a campaign
that literally we are talking. There are three companies who
have actually capitulated, have stood with this administration, have backed
away from their DEI commitments, Target Home, Depot and Amazon.
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We're coming for you on Thanksgiving weekend. We're asking people
just like we're not buying this fool shis. We're not
buying and spending our money with companies that are not
literally standing up for democracy and standing to protect us
when there are people that are seeking a government.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
That seeking to harm us.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Again Amazon, and I did say the Amazon because I
know everybody started like.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Today, but I got a message with that.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I got a cool I got a tip with that
Amazon Home depot and Target.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
The home depot easy. I'm gonna have to I'm gonna
talk to Ellen about Target. Make sure she stay out
of that one. That's the one I'm worried about.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
She should have been out of. We've been, but she
kind of got.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
But that's it.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Okay, let me let me just do an Amazon is
gonna be I'm not gonna lie. It is gonna be
very hard. It's a Seattle headquarter company. I want you
really quick LB to get into why you chose those
particular targets no pun intended. And also if you can
talk about the importance of an economic boycott within a
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truncated time frame, because normally, I think, especially in this
day and age, people are like, are you really going
to get a win. If there's an end of the matter,
what is the purpose of having an end to the
boycott and why wasn't it extended beyond just Thanksgiving weekend
at Black Friday on.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
So let me say this, this is not a boycott.
This is an economic action. And so it's okay because
there are boycott's target isn't actually full fledged boycott, And
with a boycott there's a particular specific ask, there's a
negotiation that goes around there, and there's an expected outcome.
What we're saying is that we have economic power. Not
only we have political power flex, but we have that's right,
(03:58):
we all flex. We have economic power. And what we
know is twenty to over forty percent of sales for
the entire quarter most companies on that weekend alone, They're
projection for the next six months are determined by that
we can and so this is really while it is
we're lifting up the companies, this is really about us
building our muscle. Like listen, I love the shop online
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like the next person. Matter of fact, and all I
understand Amazon truck just left my house. I'm looking out
the way that has just left my house. So I
get it right back they're right there, right, But ultimately, y'all,
if we cannot create the kind of discipline for four days,
well we're saying that we've got to start developing the
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muscle and the discipline that when people are not supporting
us or allowing what, we're just gonna let We're just
gonna support these folks who are capitulating. They're going up
on the White House like given their basically promising their
first born child to an administration that is being hurtful in.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Harmful to us.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
And so while this is yes, we're we're looking at
how we use our money. We want people to be
more conscious about their spending. More than anything, We want
folks to be conscious about their spending to leverage that
particular weekend because it is such a significant It is
the largest retail weekend of the year, and it can
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have a dent in that truncated space. Now, there are
some folks like the Target boycott. The Target boycott hang
on end is going to continue until they meet their demands,
and there are other actions that are happening as well
that people are really talking about what they can do
to continue, and we want people to be activated in that.
But this is a way for us to actually show
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and demonstrate, you know. Part of reasons why our power,
part of reasons why I think elections work is because
they have a there's like a timeframe, right that you know,
there's the election is gonna happen this day, and there's
gonna be some choice and.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Decision made by that day. Right, what can happen?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Particularly traditionally with boycotts, they can go on for a month,
they can go on for a couple of years, they
can go on, and and they should. I am actually
a support of that. But this is a design in
that way. This is an economic action for people to
actually reflect, to be more consciously aware of how we
spend our money and who we spend our money too,
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and that there is a collective action we're going to
take that weekend to send a message that we ain't
playing with y'all, Like at the end of the day, we.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Are not buying.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Let me ask a question real quick. Is there is
there I think you answered it just now, But is
there an ask that that goes along with this economic action?
Are we asking these companies for something?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Or yeah, you mean like stop being racist, but like but.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Like a specific like a specific ask and or because
I mean it could be both. Is this Is this
a message to the world and organizing messaging tactic that
we're using, because by the way, I'm all in. I
just need to figure out. You just need to tell me, well,
why we hear what we're doing, and what the end
result gonna be. But I'm all in because I follow
you anywhere.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Well, you just need to ask.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
I'm with you just in case somebody asked me what
I'm doing, I need to be able to tell them why.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
All right, nice to have you on the show. Welcome Home.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So part of what I think you know, I'm glad
you asked the question, which is why I wanted to
early upfront to distinguish this is not a boycott and
a boycott and a boy this action in terms of
when you're buying it. Now, there are boycotts that are
part of this right and for example, the target boycott
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was a target fast and it's turned into a full
fledged boycott. They have specific list of demands that people
have been organizing around that they're actually in negotiations with
where they actually want some in right, and then there
are people are actually now in this.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Space around home, depot.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
What you're going to see is there's been an official
call uponme depot, and where the folks who are organizing
with that have a specific ask. This is an organizer.
I'm an organizer and this right here is an organizer
container for a couple of things. One is not just
about the companies. What I want people to know are
particular the folks that listen to this, this is about
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you too, that ultimately we want the companies to do right,
but we ain't got to do right.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
No, we gonna have to do better. We're going to
have to be much more conscious.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Much more disciplined, much more directed with our spending. So
for me, what the big part of this campaign is
really about raising the consciousnes, the consciousness and the awareness
that we are consumers and we've got power. When I
look at black folk in this country, we've got one
point eight trillion dollars in it, literally in billion dollars,
(08:54):
I'm sorry, in consumer power. That's a lot of power, y'all.
That when we're looking at how are we using that?
Why are we still continuing the same kind of spending
habits which many of us are right I'm guilty of it,
Like the next person that many of us are spending
using the same kind of spending habits out of convenience,
out of this is what we like. This is a
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brand we like. This is the store down the street
from me. I mean I got some cool stuff from
Target when I was shopping there, right, But ultimately, I
don't love Target more than I love my five year old.
Like my five year old, I don't love Target more
than I love my family. That right now, we're looking
at them losing their health benefits. Where a family member
(09:36):
of buyds her health insurance would go up from two
hundred and sixty dollars a month to almost two rands.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
She can't afford that. That's more than all that's the
morning the bills in our household.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
So we've got to use the pressure. However we can
use that pressure. But more than anything for this particular campaign,
this campaign.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Is for us. It is for us to really.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Think about our spending choices, our habits that we're actually
contributing to businesses that are hurting and harming us. So
it's not just they gotta do right, we gotta do right.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
LB.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Can I just and I know T if you need
to get in here Andrew.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You two, I just want to do one quick fact
check just because I love you, sister, and you going
it is two point one trillion, and it is trilli,
but it's well Nielsen, Nielsen.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I'm gonna give you if you say, I just want
to I said trillion in back off a billion, but right, okay,
I'm gonna taking.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
But I'm with you on that. I just want to
make sure we take the whole Yeah, Like, let's be clear.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
If it's between one.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Point eight and two point one somewhere in there, that's
a whole lot of money, so Youney, and that is
not our wealth. That is what we spend. This is
also a discipline exercise of be I hear you. I'm sorry,
and I do.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Want to say about the companies earlier, and I know
tif you got a question earlier when I was asked
the question why these companies target rolled back their DEI commitments. Right,
target customer base forty percent of their customer base, y'all
are multicultural shoppers. They're people of color. We're keeping them floating.
So when you looking at Amazon, Amazon Cyber Monday, just alone, y'all,
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that is the biggest online shopping day of the year,
believe it or not, multicultural almost at the same rate,
we're the ones that's buying online, and believe it or not,
it's our Latino, our Latito brothers and sisters that is
the biggest, the biggest vehicle for them in terms of
online shopping. And we're seeing what's happening with that when
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we're looking at home depot the same thing. Not only
home depot policies, but they got the mitigative goal right
to actually call folks having workers that are outside like
they've exploiteded. Now they're actually providing that information to ice
and surveillance information. No, you can't take our money and
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not staying with us and just exploit us.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
That's not gonna go now. That's why we ain't buying it.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But to do that to Andrew ask your question, you
stand up, listen. I feel like Lytasha framed the message
on this herself. First of all, we ain't buying it
definitely came from because you said it like you own it.
We ain't buying it. I believe you. I believe you fully.
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I like this action, this flex action, economic flex because
too often we're taking for granted and we allow society
media and others to reinforce our disempowerment. And what this campaign,
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in my mind, seems to do, is to reinforce the
fact that we have power and choice about everything. Your
choice to not vote is a choice. You could go
or you could not. You're exercising a choice when it
comes to your money. Yeah, that store may be closer,
it may look like it have better sales and discounts
on for you, But guess what if you ride just
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a little bit further down the street, that one's got
some stuff and they got better stuff up the block,
down the street, round the corner. It's a choice. And
I just I think in this time talking about meeting
the moment, Angela, you know we're talking about all these
We're talking about powerful people and how they meet the moment,
and how this public figure is meeting the moment. Well,
how are we, as regular everyday people and more specifically,
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regular everyday consumers meeting the moment. We may not have
the platform, we may not be the elected official, we
may not be you know, the basketball player or the activists,
but every single one of us has the ability to
flex when we want to. And this, to me, the
collective flex is one that requires our neighbors, our friends,
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our family others to participate. I just hope that all
of us deputize, not just ourselves, but our family members,
remind them, talk to them about what this is, because
it ain't nothing worse than a flex and a muscle
don't pop out, that's right, that's right, So you can't
flex and then no, nothing show up.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
And I will say to this too.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
You know, I can't tell y'all how many times I've
been in conversations recently around you know, we need a
Martin Luther King, we need a leader, we need and
every time I hear that, it actually aggravates me. Let
me tell you why, because I think it's a compound.
At the end of the day, it's a compound. What
you what you say to me is you want somebody
that's willing to give their lives to You want somebody
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to go on the uh, to be out there, put
them themselves in dangerous way, and you don't have to
change anything about your behavior, Like we can't do that.
At the end of the day, if we are and
as we will defeat this author terranism, it is going
to require something of all of us, and damn it
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if you can't wait, if you can't go four days
without spending some money, I don't know what to say
to you, right, you know, I don't I don't know,
I don't have any I don't know what to say.
But I think it's you know, even in the campaign,
just the functionality of the campaign. I want folks to
understand there are three companies that we're highlighting because there
are actions already going on and right, and that's what
made it for us. We thought that that would lift
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it up, lift up work that was ongoing, work.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
That is happening.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
But we're we're actually saying, don't spend any money that weekend,
and if you already spend money, spend money with local,
black owned or smaller women owned companies that week in.
So that's why each day on Thursday, we're saying, spend
time with families, don't spend time with folks, don't spend money.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
We ain't spending no money. We spending time with our families.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
On Friday, that which they call black Friday, we call
it a blackout Friday. It's gonna be the blackest Friday
they ever seen. Because what we're gonna do is we're
gonna make sure that we're lifting up in that space.
They're gonna be actions going on across the country in
different stores, and we're asking people to not buy on
Black Friday, to send a message of our consumer power.
That Saturday and Sunday, we're saying, spend small, that small Saturdays,
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small Sunday, spends with small businesses, black owned, some of
these businesses that have lost some of their contracts or
they have lost their foot traffic. And on Monday we
going you're talking about cyber Monday. No, it's gonna be
a cyber shutdown. We are saying telling folks to lead
your apps, do not buy online, and more importantly Amazon,
make sure that we're lifting up that we are not
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shopping and buying anything from Amazon.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So it is a four.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Days very trunk k five days very trunkeated in a
space that we believe that we can actually show the power,
use our consumer power and to send a message and
it can feed into larger actions, ongoing actions.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
That are happening.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I love it, Pasha.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
I want to talk about the home depot piece and
I'll shift topics a little bit, but I just wanted
to make this point to our audience I'm having some
work done house now, and there are workers who live
in Maryland and they're saying, we're not coming to d
C right now. So we have to do everything via
FaceTime or WhatsApp because literally crossing state lines, they could
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be disappeared or deported. And I know that our community,
there are small pockets of our community who do not
feel in solidarity with this community, and I want to
caution us that if we let them turn us into monsters,
then we are no different. The same way a vampire
can suck blood from your neck and convert you into
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another bloodsucker. We can't allow that to happen. I know
it's frustrating.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
It's not real in the literal sense.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
But I know it's frustrating for black folks who are
spiritually and mentally and physically exhausted at what they're going through.
But we have to consider the humanity of other people.
I think that is just our superpower. So on that note,
I always say, if I could bottle Natasha up and
give her away for Christmas, I would do that. You
are Love's evangelists, and you can turn anyone into a
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devout follower.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Of whatever do.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
They if you get your on them, you get your
hands on them, then then you can and a lot
of us we had the privilege of having them a
few hours on the day before your birthday, not on
your birthday, but but talking and just about what we're
going through. And people are hurting right now. You know,
people don't have food to eat. People their children are hungry,
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People are dealing with healthcare crisis. People are dealing with
alien parents, people are dealing with alien children. People are
broke or their spirits are broken. It's just a heavy
season right now for black folks, but for everybody. You
have always, when I've been in the darkest moments of
my life, been a beacon of light. And so I
can't give you away to everybody for Christmas, but in
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the gift of giving this season, I just wonder what
words of love you might be able to offer to
all of us who are going through challenges, no matter
what we look like or no matter what we're going through.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
You know, the good news is if I was dependent
upon let's say, in the government to fix this, y'all
see how that's working, right, or political parties to fix this,
I would probably feel a sense of helplessness if I
was looking at the benevolence of Trump or the white folks,
or whoever it is that we think gonna save us,
I would feel that. But that ain't where I get
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my source for That's not my source of strength. That's
not where I've ever gotten my.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Source for strength.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I am a daughter, a great great great grandchild of
somebody who had been enslaved.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Right, and all of the new before that was enslavement.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I am the grandchild of a man and a woman
that couldn't even register until they were in their late sixties.
I am I come from folk who in the deep
Deep South that could not and did not have freedom
of movement, did not have the right to vote. We're
not even treated humanely, right, So how dare I having
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access to all that I have access to to not
really use the power that they used, and that power
was they use their humanity? Y'all that ultimately we have
got to understand that. I do believe I am, like
you said, I'm a lover. But I do believe that
you know, you know I am as y' all know
as Machelli's no.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Since I got me.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
A beautiful telescope for my birthday, just I'm just flexing
a little bit. But right, I have been obsessed with stars,
and I just want to share this real quick.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I've been obsessed with stars, and part of.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It is, you know, the idea that in our universe
there are billions of stars, but there are billions of universes.
So I need people just to get your wrap your
head around that, right, and stars are always out but
right now it's daytime for many of us, and I
can't see the stars. I can't see the stars, but
they're still out there. It is only in the night
(21:07):
time that I see the light from the stars. And
the interesting thing about seeing the stars in that moment
that there are sometimes that when you look at there's
some stars, you see that those stars are not even
don't even exist anymore. Some of the stars that we're
looking at are actually called dead stars. All you were
seeing is their former glory days. That it took that
(21:28):
long for that light to travel to us to perceive it,
and so we're seeing it. But ultimately that's start gone on,
that start don't even exist anymore, is the residue of
its former self. And then there are other stars that
are being born every day. And why am I saying
that it is in the darkest night in this country
that black folk have always been the stars to lead
the way. Harriet Tubman followed a star, a north star forward,
(21:51):
And I thought that the north star was the brighton
star in the sky when I started kind of research
about stars.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
It's not the brighton star. You know what it is.
It is the most consistent. It is the star that you.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Can always depend on. Sometimes it's the brightness, sometimes it's not.
And I'm saying that black people got to know who
we are, that we have always been the stars to
actually lead the way to democracy. We have always been
the stars to say it don't matter what you say
about me. You can put all kinds of anti blackness,
you can put whatever you want to put it. Ultimately,
I will still rise and I will also bring and
(22:25):
open that space up for others. So in this moment
where we are feeling this darkness, this is the moment.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Baby, turn your light on, like put your lightners up.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
This is the moment that you need to whatever it
is in you, your humanity, that's when you cut that on.
And you're being called in this moment. So I don't
think I don't want to minimize that is this a
heavy moment. Absolutely, I don't want to minimize the fact
that are people suffering and struggling. Absolutely, But we have
always had to deal with racism, we have always had
(22:54):
to deal with economic barrier, some of us more than others.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
And we have always found joy and found a way out.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
And so all I'm saying is, perhaps God in the universe,
because I'm a personal faith perhaps this moment we just
it's your showtime. Maybe in this moment where we're in
the darkest night of this country, maybe this is the
moment that our stars are supposed to be shining their brightness.
And all that means, in my opinion, is that we've
got to go back to be in community. We've got
(23:23):
to use our power. We can't just go around and
spend money and not be conscious of it. We can't
go around and say things and not be conscious of it.
We can't go around and repeat things that we've heard
on Instagram or somewhere and not be conscious of it.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Why. Because we are at war, and when you are
at war, you move differently.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
You're far more disciplined, You're more disciplined in your thoughts,
you're more disciplined in your movement. And so this is
the moment that I think is being called for us.
It don't really matter what the other folks gonna do,
because they've been pretty.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Consistent for four hundred years.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
The question is what is it that we're going to
do that's going to be different, that creates a different
kind of result. And I think this is a opportunity.
It's a bad space that we're in, but this is
also an opportunity for us to shift the frame from
seeing ourselves as citizens of this bason, this bootleg nation
that we're see in right now, to start seeing ourselves
as founders of a new America, the founders of a
(24:15):
nation that we design, we deserve that we're going to create.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Reading the hearing and the doing of his word, Latisha Brown, well,
I love'll feerless leader, We love you.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Please come back and thank you y'all. Come on, like,
go to our website. I got to go because I
actually have to got to go to a doctor's visit.
But if you can go to we ain't buying it
dot com And we want people to make it their own.
This is campaign isn't held by one group or one person.
Make it your own because there are other folks and well,
(24:55):
you know what, they add all kinds of stuff in
that list. My niece to day had about fifteen different
co is that she was like, Oh yeah, I'm not
going to.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Them because they did this, this, they did that.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
So part of the spirit is there's a spark, there's
a space. There are folks around the nation that are
gonna do some actions. Use your power right because we
are baying before you.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Go, it's real quick.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Can you just give us one little, one little note,
you give us something on your way out.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Our note is, well, the first thing I did right
was the day I started to fight.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Keep your eyes on.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Did not mean and.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
If you were on the street, you wouldn't know that.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
If you wet, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
We're y'all, you and mute you want to hear you.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I'm still.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Like, let the audience your time.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
You can't tell me. You can't tell me how my
spirit moves.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Know what I'm saying, that's the music.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
They don't know. They don't know, y'all.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Andrew the ain't never been to the morning being don't know.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
They're trying to dictate that.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
We want to know.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
How about the job just saying. This is why she
does it impromptu, because yes, because I'm gonna go.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Well, the first thing I did right was the day
I started to fight, keep your eyes on the price.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
And hold on, hold on, because we ain't buying it
by y'all.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I'm going he's out, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
But I'm just gonna say this. I I actually appreciate
call and response. It is in our nature to be,
you know, instantaneously responsive. We do it on the podcast,
that's what we got.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
But he's.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Doing that. But my point is I really think that
I get it. And so I'm sorry for hitting y'all
so hard, but I was really mad.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Because I wanted to just hear Latasha.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
And what she normally does is she'll come into a
speaking engagement or into a segment on air and just go,
and so people don't really have this chance.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I'm not saying the audience, I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I'm doing it a really terrible job apparently, but I
didn't piss them off.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I love them, but I really did just want to
hear Atasha. That's not what we were doing. They about.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
They actually they want to actually they do, and this
is actually one of those moments where I think people
need to have something to hold onto. And one thing
that I really believe LB does so well is she
can snatch hope out of a very dark circumstance and
she does it with the power of her spoken and
(28:16):
melodic word. And so we appreciate y'all for going on
mute while you're saying horrifically. And even though you you
felt like you were a team player, you were not.
And it was as annoying as Andrew's lawnmower in the background.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
So there's that. I love you. Guys got the spirit because.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
They can't they how the spirit moves us, the jealousy.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
They can't even hit the notes, not one of them.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
They don't even hit them.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Thank you ahead of my.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
You don't even know. You don't need. First of all,
protocol has not been established.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Okay, I don't know what after church. You go to
teen team drums and no bass drum, but I go
to Koji church.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Protocol it's always indeed.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
You're not telling the truth because you have still been
in church today.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
If you were Kojing, the complication was this church just
got to just hit the letter.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I go to Church of God in Christ My church
is progressive. We end on time now everywhere else. If
there's a regional meeting, we're gonna be there till three
p m. But no, today we are out of church.
Who is not in churches, y'all and y'all definitely not
in a choir that said, we thank you.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
You have let me open some mail.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Welcome home, Welcome y'all.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
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