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Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's no Welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show. Amya house,
drump Shooter. It's Thursday. Well, normally every Thursday, I dear
friend Mark Lupe joins us. But Mark is with his
family in Greece, a family vacation. Remember I think he
told us he's going to be away for two weeks.
We have a big surprise today. It's not Friday. It's Thursday,
(00:33):
but our Friday friend Cory is joining Good Today. Corey.
Are you there? I am here for a thrilling Thursday.
I'm going to rebrand it strange.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
No, well, listen, I mean, it's just that I almost
get to kick off my weekend early though, because I
don't have to get up so early tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
That's all right, you could go out to dancing tonight,
my friend. Thank you for filling in for Mark today.
It's really really helpful. Let's jump into Asher. What time
is it, my friends? It is time. Big story at
the top of the show, everybody's talking about Amy Rubek
and t J. Holmes. Remember those two. They were the
host ofs GMA three, the co hosts, and then they
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got handsy with one another and then they sort of
lost their job, which I still don't totally understand they
were both going through separations. Now. The timing's always fuzzy.
Whenever we do these timelines of the relationships, I'm looking
at you, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jerry, they never quite match.
At Ariona Grande, I'm looking at you too. They always
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when they get together, these celebrities always hell, we never
got together until after we got separated, and it's a
bit of a crossover, which probably happens in real life too. Unfortunately.
So ultimately they were fired and they've really worked since.
So they did get a big payout, So don't worry
about money. They've got a lot of money that's coming
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to an end. They launched a podcast, they did tons
of meeting, but what they really did was get photographed
all around New York by the paparazzi, which I have
to admit I believe they enjoy a little bit. So
they were at this event a few nights ago. Mister
was there. It was actually Mister who spotted almost and
they were really really handsy. At one point TJ was
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literally putting his hands down her hands and they were
like really because like you know, when you see a
couple hands and it's lovely. This was like that couple
we've all seen them. They just can't stop kissing and touching.
We get it, Amy TJ. We get it. You are
in love. I believe you. I'm not doubting you. I
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believe that you love each other. But why do you
have to show the world. It feels a little bit
too much. Narrow personal little note here. I went to
a wedding about a year ago. A dear friend of
mine who works on the Today Show got married and
she's very close with Amy. I've met Amy many time.
I'm socially through our mutual friend the wedding, Aim Hindj
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with Dirty the wedding. Yeah, okay, what do you think, listen?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I have a theory about that. You know me, So,
I think there's a psychological component to this. I think
they have become a brand together, and they're this hot,
sexy brand visually, both very attractive, and I think they're
actually they're turned on by the attention they receive when
they act as way in public. I bet you they
go right home and they put on the fluffy slippers
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and flannel pajamas and they're watching, like you know, Flintstones
episodes on like Nickelodeon, Like, it's not that this is
all performative, and I think it's just bs because they
love to see people watch them. It's a voyeuristic attraction
that they are really.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Probably a part of. I think it's a bad attention,
isn't it. A friend of mine, another friend of mine
who knows them really really well, said that they're obsessed
with the paparazzi. They're obsessed with having their picture in
the page and is exciting. Both of them always wanted
to be really, really famous, and they sort of were
like moderately famous. I didn't really think if I didn't
know Amy, I probably wouldn't be able to tell you
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her name. There's a lot of really beautiful, really smart
people on television, but there's only one holder. There's only
one Robin Roberts. I don't think Amy was in that
Oprah type league of hosts, and so this has made
her quite famous, and so I think she's enjoying all this. Now,
this is what the problem is. Whenever they get really
handsy at an event, we talk about it. They're the
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lead of the nrdy but nice show. They're in the
newspapers everyone, so we're rewarding their behavior again. So it's
a round. It's a circle, isn't it. They have realized
if they like attention, which they do, if they like
publicity they do, how do they get it by being
really outrageous with one another when they're out and you know.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
What, it's worked again. It's absolutely that's worked again. So
do we stop talking? They're they're not going to stop
doing this. I spotted the two of them. So every
day I go for a long walk down the down
the west side, down.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
The Hudson River. It's beautiful, Cory. I always, not always,
but I often see Amy and TJ running down there.
They're both big runners. The two of them run like
pretty regular people until they see some like.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
The camera rubbing each other into the hand.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
They're like holding wastes. They're doing like a conga line
down like I could see.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It's totally bs and I'll tell you, but they have
to be very careful, Rob, you know. Protecting your brand
when you do become famous is also another part of it.
That same public that has just built you up loves.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
To tear you down. You go too far, so watch
it with that brand. They do, And I would say
to them I was a marketing expert for for a
long time. You too, Corey, what is your brand? Like?
What is your brand? Do like honestly in forwards or
less a little plug for but forwards? What do you do?
And you know, it's perfectly fine if they said our
brand is just sex, our brand is affection, right, great,
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So what are you going to join? Only fans because
you do that? To do with that, right and then
be that thing. That's the thing you are.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
But right now it feels very performative and like and
that genuine I tell you that's where they're homeplane scrabble,
darling scrabble.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah. I find that with my friends, not my celebrity friends,
but my friends who are just when we're in public,
they're always touching, a kissing, and then I know they
go home, would sit on O sense something of the sofa?
They don't. They don't speak. It's aw alloying to put
on a show. Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately for them, it
does work. We are talking about them again. I do
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wish them well, but I think, like Harry and Meghan,
the two of them have to sit down and say,
what is our brand? Because we both got fired for love,
We've sort of played that out. We did a year
of interviews and stories about that, and it was really interesting.
In the podcast was a big expose on that. I
listened to the first couple of episodes. I loved it,
But then after that, what are we doing now? They
are both journalists, they're both roll She particularly is a
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really really good journalist, So maybe do an interview show.
I think she's great at asking questions, getting information out
of really interesting people. Maybe do that, or maybe double
down on this very affectionate sexual sexual image that they have.
And then if you take that to its logical conclusion,
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I'm trying not to be frude here, Corey. We know
where that goes. So it is a question which brings
us to our whole question of the day. Amy and
TJ got really raught you when they were out together
at an event in New York City, Miss d was
there are these two trying to Are they just trying
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to add? Is it desperate? Hey? Go vote on our
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to hear your results. Hey, Corey Love, what are you
working on? Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Well, you know we haven't heard from Megan Marco's dad
for a while, which is I'm not sure that's good
or bad.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You can you all can make that judgment on that.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
But her father's making news again here because you know,
he's struggling apparently in the Philippines. That's after he moved
from Mexico to the Philippines to apparently start fresh, if
you will. But it's been hard, a source close to
the family is saying, and he said, you know, he
thought he'd find peace and quiet there, but he's actually
found isolation. It's brutally hot in the Philippines, brutally hot there,
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and he's sort of like wallowing in the same sadness
that he sort of left Mexico for. So he left
ros Rito, Mexico after over a decade of living there.
And he's eighty years old, and he's a former lighting director,
you know, so he's worked in that industry for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
At eighty years old, you're.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Not doing that kind of work anymore because it's kind
of a grueling job. So he relocated earlier this year
to say Boo, which is, you know, a sweltering and
densely packed island in the Philippines alongside his son, Thomas
Markle Junior.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
But insiders say, you know, he hoped the distance.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Would be something where he could heal the old wounds,
especially the ones with Megan, But so far, nothing's changed.
He just took his same misery elsewhere. And this is
a lesson I want to talk to people about too,
because I often tell people, until you clean up your
situation where you are, it doesn't matter where you can
go in the world. You're just you're just bringing that
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same baggage with you. So he took his He took
his baggage, his you know, his boss, his boss that's
with him from Mexico to the Philippines. He didn't work
on himself or work on his relationships, So why would
they be any different in a different location.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
When you're really smart, really smart, Yeah, you carry it around.
It follows you around, doesn't it. If you are not
a nice person at home, you're not going to be
a nice person at work. You just follows you around.
Think a change of locations can change you is silly. Yeah,
it doesn't. And I think the reason a lot of
people think it does is because when you go on
holiday for a week, you're all happy and smiling, and
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you think your whole life is going to be perfect.
So you go back to live there, and then all
those feelings, all those emotions, they come flooding back. You
are who you are. I think he would be better
of working on himself. The sad part of this, though,
is that he's not well inside. Has told me. You know,
he's an old man. He has lots of regrets, and
I think, I don't know. It's complicated here because he
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really did betray Meghan. We can't we can't emphasize enough
what he did to Meghan. I wish she found a
place to forgive him. I'm not guilting her here. It's
definitely her choice. Families can be really, really complicated. I
also two sources tell me there's a trust issue there,
that she just doesn't trust him, which is ironic because
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that's how Harry's family feel about him. It's interesting, isn't it.
We're always talking about Harry's relationship with his family, and
we seem to forget that Meghan's in a very similar
position with hers. All she has is her mom. I
hope they find some peace, not just for the dad's sake,
for Meghan's sake, for the grandkid's sakes. It makes me
sad that this man is all by himself in his eighties.
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But this is what happens in life. You can't treat
people terribly and then say boohoo, I'm all alone. Look around.
I've pushed people away by behaving really really not in
a way that I'm proud of. And now that person's
gone from my life and there's no making that up.
And so treat people well and that's going to make
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your life better. Okay, this story made me so sad.
I think I've spoken about this. I try not to
speak about her very much. But of all the celebrities
that I've worked for, my favorite one was Kate Spade.
Kate Spade was just so dear to me. We became friends,
we traveled together. I miss her terribly well. Now a
friend of hers, someone she was actually a business partner with,
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I've met this lady is writing a book, and sources
tell me that friends, family members are really really cautious
about this. Four years since Kate's passing, the family and
friends have been really trying to make sure a Kate's child,
she has one daughter, that she has some grace to
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grow up in a world that is not constantly talking
about the suicide of her mom. They've asked friends not
to do interviews. You see these documentaries about Kate, these
books about her, They really would rather they didn't exist. Well,
now one of her closest friends is doing just that.
I'm told the book is very tender, it's very gentle.
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But Kate was so private, so private. Her daughter has
been struggling to she lost her mom, and so this
is just makes me. It gives me pause. It gives
me pause. I remember after she died, pretty much every
TV show, the morning shows called me to see if
I would go on and talk about Kate. And I
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reached out to the family and they said, please don't
rob and I didn't do it. I didn't do it.
So now this feels like a betrayal. It doesn't sit
well with me. Obviously, people have stories to tell. Kate
was a big part of many, many people's lives. But
the whole book about your friendship with somebody who would
not want you to do this, who would want privacy. Yeah, well, well.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I think you know you're right for all those points.
I will say there is one exception if the friend's
intention is because all the other books out there have
portrayed Kate in a way that she feels is unfair, unflattering, unjust,
and she wants people to know the other side, or
to know the beauty of the friend. It really depends
on what she writes, it doesn't I mean, Kate maybe
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have preferred her not to write it at all, but
I think it's an important book. And wow, the irony
though of Kate seemingly having everything, having it all, being
the being the epitibill the girl, right. I think of
her and I see the floral print dresses and the
little perfect handbag and the perfect effect, and she was
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so you know, so.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Hurting inside, full of demons. I miss you. I miss you, Kate,
I really do. And I'm not sure I'm going to
be able to read this book. I don't think i'm
going to. Really, I want to remember you as I
do and rest in peace, my dear friend. Okay, quickly,
before we go to break, very hot Maximum from Dancing
with the Stars has apparently hung up his dan shoes
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and it's not hit the bottle explained.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Oh that's very clever, Rob. Yes, well a Maxim and
I always butcher her name, but I think Schmierkowsky.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I always yes.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So Maxim Schmilkowsky, he's launching this new Ukrainian inspired vodka,
so he's got my vote on that. But Dancing with
the Stars, he's an alum of the show, of course,
But yeah, he's trained in his barroom glitz, you know,
for a little barroom buzz with the New York launch
of this handcrafted vodka. It's called Tetchya Kappa and it's
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a personal tribute to the woman who taught him how
to do vodka shots before he was even in his
teen So I'm not sure if we were to want
to celebrate that part of the brand, because that's underage drinking. However,
in Ukrainian culture, he says, we toast to everything, birthdays, funerals, graduations,
all with vodka. That is our version of wine. So
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that's an interesting kind of cultural perspective too about how
that that is the position that vodka has in that culture.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So it's named after max.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Beloved aunt Tetchya, and that's Aunt the Ukrainian and the
vodka is made of Sauvignon blanc grapes, no corn, no sugar,
and was designed to be sipped like a fine mescal.
So I'm like, you know, we got to get to
New York and try this.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Honey, ho, do you better send us a bottle? If
you're listening Max a level, I was actually invited. I
think tomorrow night, Friday night, they're having a party for
Maximum a roof somewhere and maybe I'll go and we're
gonna take a quick breaking movie right back. Welcome back
to the Naughty but nine Shammy host from Shooto with
a dear friend, Cory Andrew. Hey, Corey, let's get to
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the polls. Yesterday we talked about how a fan exploded
in the court room at the did de trial swim
and chatting got excluded out? Did he was watching all this?
The jury wasn't there to see it. Do you think
Diddi is loving all this attend It's a bit of
an obvious question, said, yes, I absolutely agree. I agree.
I agree. Don't forget to vote on today's long Twitter
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your results. And now it's time for nicest of the today.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
No, yes, well, this is a very sweet story, you know,
so Megan Markle, she celebrated Princess Lilibit's fourth birthday with
never before seeing photos. Now there's like a really beautiful,
heart melting Instagram tribute and we've had a lot of
family photos with you know, intimate relationship moments and stuff,
really really great. And she said happy birthday to our
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beautiful girl. That was the caption, and a black and
white photo of herself cuddling little Bit on a boat
along with her never seen before images of the delivery
room where she had the baby. So that was really
sweet to see her and Harry dancing around and stuff
when the baby was born. Really fine, so very.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Sweet, sweet, really really sweet. Nice this of the day.
And I noticed the name lots of reports out there
that Blake Lively is begging Taylor Swift to forgive us
a messages, emails, texts telling me it is over. So
Taylor has not responded to a single text message, not
a voice message, not even an email. She's done, and
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she is furious. Taylor's the naughtiest of the day here,
because if you've had a friendship, you do owe somebody
an explanation. I was Taylor, I would pick up a
phone and Taylor, I'd say, like, this doesn't feel right
and I don't think we can be close anymore. But
I find and we talk about saying finding the good
and goodbye a lot on this show. If somebody's that hurt,
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and clearly Blake ears, I would write a little note
back just me. You don't have to do this, naughties.
But I think this one here makes me sad to
have a really good friend. I have you ever lost
a really good friend over something so awful? And it
makes me say I hate to see friendships fall apart,
particularly friendships that have been around for a really long time.
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Oh it's also sad annaughty is the day. Let's end
with a moment of rubb You get a rub now
a moment of today is actually conflicting with what I've
just said about idealities in the day. However, let's talk
about detachment. Detachment is a superpower. Detachment doesn't mean you
don't care. It means you can finally care about yourself
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and so let go when things are not working, let
them fall away, release it. Your power isn't told in on.
It's knowing when to walk away with grace. So walk
away with grace. If someone's coming at you. I've had
to learn this. I used to love a good fight.
Oh I love to get into an argument and scream
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and shan and start mine fort Now I'm really good
at letting go, but you have to really practice, and
you've got to let go to in your mind. If
you were thinking about somebody all the time, you've not
let go. You know, when you're really over something somebody,
when you just move on. Hey, that is it for today, Corey.
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Thank you for jumping onto data phil In with Mark.
You can start your weekend now. Ely Caly have a
fabulous three day weekend. Naughties. I'm gonna see you tomorrow.
I'm gonna do a solo show tomorrow month the Elvis
Durant Show early, So I'm gonna take the show really
really early tomorrow morning and I'll be on Elvis I
think around seven fifteen, seven twenties. If you want to
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you've got to be. Take care, Rob, all right, you
got it, Darling,