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April 23, 2025 20 mins

After Tina Knowles’ emotional reveal that she quietly battled breast cancer daughter Beyoncé is now taking extra precautions — and undergoing her own thorough medical testing. Meghan Markle says her latest business pivot wasn’t due to legal pressure — but because her original brand name just didn’t make sense. Blake Lively’s company quietly filed a lawsuit last September aimed at subpoenaing messages from Baldoni’s former PR team — without attaching her own name to the action.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Scalable advice.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Sure, spice, it's time, little bit alone. Welcome to the
not even sham your house around Shooter. And it is Wednesday,
which means we're with our dear friend, sort of of.
I'll explain in a minute, Donnie Meacham, are you there?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hello below? Wednesday? Wednesday? Wednesday? Oh boy, the computer's tired.
I'm tired. It's hump day. What's going on? Everything?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
We're gonna wake you up. We've got ton, tons and
tons of great gossip this morning. I can hear you, Donnie,
I can't see you, which is always a shame because
you're lovely to see. But nevertheless, we will struggle through
the show. Fingers crossed. Everybody for the next twenty minutes,
we're going to be doing this blind litter relief, but
with such professionals. Now, Donnie, after the pandemic, I think

(00:55):
we're going to be okay, what do you think?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh, we'll be fine. We gotta fits each other's senators.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
We can, indeed, and we often do because we interrupt. Okay,
let's jump into the show. What time is it? My friends?
It is tea time. Big story at the top of
the show, So Beyonce is undergoing testing. After her mom,
Tina Knowles, acknowledged her cancer, they are saying she is
taking no chances. So after Tina Knowles a really really
emotional reveal that she's been quietly battling breast cancers, insiders

(01:25):
are now telling us that her daughter, Beyonce is taking
extra precautions, very smart and undergoing her own medical testing.
A source said, quote, Beyonce is being incredibly proactive, and
she was devastated by her mom's diagnosis and the first
concern was her mom. But now her mom is going
through the process. Actually towards the end of the process,

(01:47):
fingers cross. My sources tell me now it's time for
Beyonce to check out her own health. She's taking no
chances here. This is something that runs within families. It
is genetic, and so I think this is a really
smart move to make. And what do you think, Donnie's
what's going on here? You know?

Speaker 1 (02:07):
I mean, yes, it's very good for Beyonce. She needs
to know. She has kids, so she needs to know
if anything's happening. It's just in a science. Now you
can tell these things, and you can tell if you're
going to have Alzheimer's. You can tell if you're gonna
have that. I just I don't know if i'd want
to know. It's just like so you're just waiting around
for it to happen. If you find out like it's

(02:29):
that scary, or you can take action now.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Remember Angelina Joliu. Her mother died of breast cancer, and
Angelina went under test and they said she had pre
cancer of cells and had a double messess to me,
so before the cancer even arrived, Angelina took a very dramatic,
some people say, a very very brave decision. And so
I think information is always the best. I used to
be like you, Donnie. I'd hide in the dishwasher with

(02:53):
a bottle of vodka and hope it would all just
go by, and it never does. You have to be really,
really brave about this. There is something that I thought
was beautiful here. Tina said that both her daughters, Beyonce
and Solonged, as well as Kelly Rowland, who she really
does count as a daughter, they have become her team
and they were with her by her side during surgery,

(03:14):
surrounding her with love, humor and music, and even sarenading her.
They sang when she went into the opper rating room. Gosh,
this is a really important subject. For a long time.
I did work for the Avarian Cancer Research Foundation, some
volunteer work there, and it's really really important to get checked,

(03:36):
to be brave, to be bold here, and if you
do have a family history of this, your odds do increase.
So gentlemen too, with prostate cancer and all those other
stuff going out there, do get tested, which brings us
to our pole question of the day. Beyonce is undergoing
testing herself after her mom, Tina Knowles, acknowledge that she

(04:00):
has been plowing through battling through a cancer scare. Is
Beyonce making the right choice? Interesting question, Donnie. I think
you think she is. But you don't have to say here.
But there is some there. You know, there's a debate here.
Do you want to know? Do you want to know this? Hey?
Go vote on actual page out Naughty Nyce rab facebook
page is Naughty Gossip and be sure to check back

(04:22):
tomorrow to hear your results. Hey, Donnie, what are you
working on?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
I can't help it. When you were talking about Beyonce
and Kelly Rowland serenading the mom into the I just
did make a little laugh And I'm just like, what
are they thinking? I don't think you're ready for this
jelly like booty delicious?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Like what were they just child? Really? What happened to
Why wasn't Michelle invited?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Michelle por Mi Michelle well, m we got Mega Marcle.
And she is defending her rebrand and she says that
the original name it like became word salad. So American
riviera orchard. Yes, that is it's a mouthful and it's

(05:12):
hard to say American riviera orchard. She goes, it became
a word salad and it didn't really reflect the direction
of the brand, and she didn't love that so much.
You know. She changed it to as ever, which I
doesn't really I don't know what that means either, But
American riviera orchard. You hear that name, and I just

(05:33):
I'm with her here. It's like, what is this? What
are you selling? What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
It is a very odd day. But you said it
first on it You said this a long time ago,
do you remember, Yes, it's odd. It should be Markle Sparkle,
which I still think is the best name for her brand.
She's sparkly, she's bubbly, like like champagne. Now I did
hit the phones, and my sources tell me they don't
totally believe this. There is no way meg And would

(06:00):
put anything out without her approval. She's very hands on.
So it isn't as if they just called it American
Riviera orchard as like a placeholder. They wouldn't have done that.
That is not who Megan is. The only reason the
brand name changed is because she couldn't get the copyright,
so she tried to get this copyrighted. If you go
to the effort and the expense of copy writing a title,

(06:22):
a name, then you probably like it. You can't say
after it's rejected, you know what, never really liked it,
was going to change it. In any case, I don't
think that's totally true, Donny. I think she liked it,
it got rejected, she came up with another name, and
if she told that story, I think people would find
her more authentic, more truthful, rather than trying to sort

(06:47):
of edge Betsy are saying it was a word salad
and I never really liked it and I was always
going to change it. Yes, sure, I don't think I
totally believe it.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Where are you now? I mean, look, she's trying to
say here, I just because now the show's been out
and they released all the episodes at once, so you're
just like, okay, well here we are. Now nobody's talking
about it anymore. It's kind of done, and so her brand.
I would like to know the numbers because they were

(07:16):
trying to do some like integrated marketing or whatever, trying
to do some sales throughout the show. I wouldn't want
to know if they sold anything, but.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Like VC, I wanted a ticker on the screen telling
me high pop many pots of Jammer left a soul
honey for ten minutes to sell another one hundred pots
of Yeah, they're not giving out any numbers, are they.
They're not giving it any numbers? Okay, Moving a long,
Rob Kardashian has a resurface in a rare family photograph
and fans are sound. It's a special treat. So the

(07:45):
sweet photographs that were posted by Kim Kardashian on Instagram
show her famously reclusive brother. He's now thirty eight. He
posted Kim, Chris, Jenna, his mom, Chloe, his sister, and
several other generations of Kardashian. Jenna's Kim titled this, captioned
it Easter twenty twenty five. I couldn't get all my
sisters and kids and aunts and cousins and laughing in

(08:07):
the same picture. But memories are so real. Kim added,
this is very interesting. Rob look quite laid back. Is
in shorts and socks and slippers and a cab. But
he stole the spotlight. We haven't seen him in a
long time. Kim's fans are saying, thank you for including Rob.
Now before you get your hopes, ub, I asked my sources,
and I said, this is not part of a comeback.

(08:29):
This is not part of a big Kardashian plan. Rob
was there for Easter. They took a picture. They asked permission.
That's good. They asked permission. They know Rob does not
like the social media stuff, so they asked him he
post a picture. He said yes, I think he approved
the picture. They showed him the picture and now he
can see it. But he's not making a big comeback.
What he think, don he?

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I miss Rob? We're those socks? Rob, what are you doing?
The thing is is he was on there what the
Kings of Malibu, Princess of Malibu, whatever that show was,
whereas him all those people and Rob is an enigma
within the Kardashians, because the Kardashians are They're same hungry.

(09:10):
They want to be out there, they want to be
on the cameras. And then you have this one who's
just like, you know what, I don't want this at all.
And then he had Black China where he was going
through that crazy custody battle with Black China, and also
his you know, we don't make fun of weight or anything.
His weight was fluctuating and that really bothered him for
a while. But I really I want to see Rob

(09:32):
kind of get back out there in the spot I
think he needs it to kind of feel better.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Maybe I'm told he's really happy. I'm told he just
doesn't like the spotlight, which is very hard and that
family isn't it, But he doesn't like being in the spotlight,
and he's pretty happy now behind the scenes. I don't
know how he's paying his bills. Maybe he's loyalty from
the show that sucks Suck collection. Maybe he's doing slightly
better than what we thought. But you've got to make

(09:58):
yourself happy. If you're doing something, whether it be in
the spotlight or not, and you don't enjoy it, then change.
And I think that is so brave of Rob to
do this, particularly in that family team Rob Hey, it
was lovely to see the picture. Okay, Donnie, this is
quite a complicated story about Blake Lively that we will

(10:18):
explain to you very very carefully. What is she up
to now?

Speaker 1 (10:23):
All right, So they're saying that Blake Lively's secret lawsuit
move it was kind of exposed. It was weeks before
baldannie harassment claim. So what they're saying is Lively Blake's
company quietly filed a lawsuit last September and they were
trying to subpoena messages from Baldannie's former PR team, but

(10:45):
they didn't put her name.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
She filed her suit against him. There was a lawsuit
before that one.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
So the thing is, it's very tricky because it looks
like they were trying to get these messes, but they
didn't want him to know it was her trying to
get these messages, which is a little shady, And that's
what people are saying. It's a bit shady because she
got these messages and then she's turned around and used
them to back up her claims. So I just if

(11:18):
you were gonna subpoena them from the beginning. Why why
didn't you just put your name on it? Like it
just seems like you were trying to do something shady
because of these messages maybe didn't work in your favor.
Would you have filed the other lawsuits?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Ah? His lawyer Baldoni just In Baldoni's lawyer is saying,
this is absolutely not a standard subpoena. That's true, and
he said it's almost backdoor maneuver to gather ammunition, and
he wanted the receipts without the headlines. Well, now this
is coming forward. I'm told that Blake is involved in
this with with her husband Ryan Reynolds, that the two
of them made this decision, and it seems maybe at

(11:57):
face value, really clever, really sneaky. This isn't how the
legal system is set up. You file your complaint and
then this disclosure maybe subpoenas where you gather information. But
she did this before, and then once she got all
the information she wanted, she dropped that lawsuit and started
a new one with this literal trove of trove of emails.

(12:22):
A little shady might help her in the long run
win the case. She's certainly got a lot of information.
She wouldn't have otherwise had but I do think this
is just a little bit, a little bit messy. Okay,
quickly before we go to break, Kevin Costner has sparked
new romance rumors after being spotted on our lunch date
with a mystery woman who was not Jaelo. Remember a
few months ago he spotted with Jaylo and we're all

(12:44):
like there together. I told her at the time. They
are absolutely not together. And he's not with this another
lady either. He was out. He's just gone through a
really nasty divorce. He's not looking to date anybody. There
was rumors he was with Jewel, and I'm told they're
not true either. Sauces are saying they were deep in
conversation and smiling a lot, but that does not make
them a couple. And then, as far as Jlo is concerned,

(13:05):
Jlo is just not his cup of tea. I was
told he's very very private about his dating life and
he does not want to be in circus Jlo, which
you gotta admit if you date Jennifer, my goodness, Buckling,
it's going to be a lot of press. He doesn't
want it, does he find Jennifer Lopez attractive, yes, although
she's not really his type. He likes blonde, blonde ladies,

(13:25):
skinny skinny ladies. And Jayla looks fabulous. Everybody looks fabulous here.
But we do have types. People have things that they appreciate,
some that they don't. So Jayla's not his type. He's
still single. Don't believe the rumors then, and don't believe
them now. Do you find Kevin Carsner attractive for yourself? Donnie?
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
He is a very handsome, older gentleman, very very handsome,
and he's Kevin Cartner. I mean he's filled the dreams
I mean are they?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
What would your mother say if you turned up with
Kevin Carsner as your boyfriend?

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Low level?

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Hell, I love you with dances with wolves? Yes, I
do with that yellowstone Hello loa loo. Okay, while we're
saying hello, hellolo, we're going to say goodbye, good bye, goodbye.
So we're going to take a very short break. Now, Remember, everybody,
the reason we can bring you this fabulous podcast completely
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(14:23):
including this one, it's a bit annoying, but we have
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So we will be back in a few moments. Welcome
back to the Naughty, But I show your host through
our shooter with our dear friend Donny meetrum. Hey, Donnie,
let's get to the poles. So last year we talked

(14:45):
about George Cleary claiming he's never had a fight, disagreement,
argument with his wife Amala. Do you believe him this?
Of a look? Eighty two percent said yes, Oh, they're
so positive, You're so optimistic, so full of dreams on
The Naughty A nice show, Donnie, you can be a
little bit cynical.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
What do you think now? I don't believe him? Oh wow,
everybody has disagreements. I don't know. I think maybe he's
using the word fight as like right with each other whatever, whatever.
But everybody, of course they've had disagreement.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Like oh, she is not saying that. Though they could
probably disagree about stuff, that doesn't make it a fight.
It makes it a conversation. I've tried to think, Donnie,
in the decade or so i've known you have we
ha had a fight, We've had to agreements, where you've
obviously been wrong and I'd be right. But we have
not had a full out screaming.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Match, have we never. I'm just not that kind of person.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I'm not that person. I'm too easy to do that.
That's the reason why I look, we're about to have
a fight. Now. Okay, let's move along. Don't forget to
make it underdeas pool. You page at Naughty nine rob
our facebook page is Naughty Gossip and be sure to
check that term a rat. Hear your results. And now
the favorite part of the show, It's time for nicest

(16:01):
of the.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Its a rather odd couple here, but Billy ray Cyrus
on Easter he was kissing a lovely actress. And an
actress is Elizabeth Hurley's. It's a strange, very strange. But
how it worked out, I guess is he kind of
turned to her for help. You know, he went through

(16:25):
a divorce. His daughters are not really talking to him,
and you know, his son is not talking to him either,
and he so he turned to her for help and
guidance and then the two kind of fell in love
after that. And that's that's sweet because it means that
they like connected on like a real level. And that

(16:45):
I can actually like, I can okay with that. But
it's it's odd, very odd pairing.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Well, they were a surprise couple, but sometimes these old
couples they really do to hit it off. It might
be a perfect match. They were wishing in the best.
My sources to me, she made the first moves that
he contacted her, and he was looking for a shoulder
to cry on, and she was looking for a bit
of hubba herba. And so these two ah together. Let's

(17:12):
always believe in love on the Naughty but Nic show,
and let's do a naughtyust after Naughty. Justin Bieber's inner
cirtle is imploding as a pastor takes control of his life.
So friends are fearing that he's been manipulated. Some are
eva saying he's in a cult. So Justin Bieber's inner
circle is sounding the alarm and the finger is being

(17:33):
pointed at one man, the increasingly influential pastor Junah Smith.
So multiple sources are saying the pop star has grown
completely isolated from his friends, his collaborators, even members on
his team, while becoming more and more dependent on this
church leader who is now entangled in both his personal

(17:54):
life professional life and spiritual life. So he sits on
the board of several of Justin company is and I said,
I'm not really sure why that is. He's a preacher,
not a creative director, but he goes to meetings. It's
raised a lot of eyebrows. Ryan Good, who is Justin's
longtime friend and a Drew House creative director, that's his company.

(18:15):
He said that now he's distanced from Justin and he
believes that the church influence is part of this. Oh,
it must be awful to be this powerful and this vulnerable,
where vultures people are literally praying on you. Now, the
hard thing here is that it is a preacher, which

(18:36):
adds another layer of just cynicism of just discussed here.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Church Holm, I actually I do every week. I So
what it is is it's meant to be you like
be at home and you can get the sermons, and
I act every week. I actually listened to the sermons
every Sunday. And so church Holm, it's interesting to see
what come out of this. And I don't if like

(19:02):
turns out that it's true, I might have to stop
being a part of this.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
We'll keep you up to speed on this story. Let's
end at the moment of Rob get a rub. How
we live is how we die. The way you live
is shaping the legacy that you're going to leave behind.
So if you live with love, you'll leave with peace.
If you live with fear, you'll leave with regret. So
live the way you want to be remembered, with kindness,

(19:28):
with courage, with purpose. Because at the end, Donnie, how
we live is how we rest. Hey, that is it
for today. Thank you so much for listening to the
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(19:50):
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Speaker 1 (20:01):
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