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October 29, 2025 20 mins

Chris Evans and his wife Alba Baptista quietly welcomed their first child — a baby girl. Meanwhile, King Charles is said to be rattled after being heckled about Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein during a recent appearance, with palace insiders fearing public anger is only growing. Britney Spears has been left without support from high-profile friends who have gone silent as the singer’s troubles resurface.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
All advice. Sure, it's time. Hell, Hello, welcome to the
Naughty but Nice Show. I'm your house from Shooter and
it's Wednesday, which means our dear friend Donny Meacham joins us. Hey, Donnie,
are you there?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hell lelo oh, it's Wednesday. Wednesday, Wednesday, My goodness, my favorite.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Flies by it. Halfway through the week we get to
celebrate it together with all the naughties. We got some
breaking news at the top of the show. Chris Evans,
Captain America, and his stunning wife Elba have secretly welcomed
their first child. They have a baby girl. Her name
is Elma Grace Attista Evans. See what they did there,
They double barreled merged their last names. I'm told she

(00:53):
was born the little Princess at about one thirty in
the morning. Sources are telling me Chris has not stopped smile.
He's very private about his private life, but this is
something that he wants to sing from the rooftops. Congratulations,
I love a celebrity baby. What a lucky, lucky little girl.

(01:13):
I hope she's going to be What.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Do you think, Oh, of course there's been It's Captain
and may ever I mean come.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
On, come on, he's so handsome and he's Captain America's delicious.
Congratulations Chris, if you're listening. Hell okay, big story of
the day is King Charles is terrified that the British
mob has turned against him. So King Charles was out
and about in Britain and he was heckled by somebody
in the crowd who was screaming, what do you know

(01:42):
about Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein. It was humiliating. The
moment is caught on video. I've got it. It's quite shocking.
So Charles is doing what the Royal school a walk
about or walk about when they go out, shake hands,
meet and greet. He's used to people shouting God save
the King. That's what he's used to. He is not
used to them shouting about Andrew, and no one's going

(02:03):
to stop them. The at burst was caught on camera.
He was in Lichfield by the cathedral and Charles was
visibly upset by this. His brother, his disgrace. Brother is
a question. It's a black eye to the royal family
and it's not going away until he goes away. He's
been stripped of his titles. It looks like he's going

(02:23):
to lose his house. But there is a really serious
question here, Charles, what did you know? And when did
you know? It? Was there a cover up? It's always
the cover up. The cover up is often worse than
the crime. I'm not going to say that in this instance.
The crime is disgusting, and what Andrew allegedly did is disgusting.
But what did the brother know? And you can't can't

(02:46):
think the public's stupid. They know they know what was
going on here. Although Andrew has denied all charges, why
did you pay her off? Why'd you give her over
ten million dollars of your own mommy's money. Andrew didn't have.
The money came from Queen Elizabeth, So Charles nam he
thought that by stripping the titles. I get this. This
is how the royals think, or at least the royals

(03:07):
of that generation. They think that if they ignore stuff,
if they sweep it under the table, or if they
strip him of his honors, then suddenly the story goes away.
This story ain't gonna go anywhere, don't I.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
That's the that's the issue here is the Royals in everything.
It's such it's an old tradition but.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
We live in a new world.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
We live in a world now where everything's on Instagram,
everything's on your phone, everything's there. Because back in the day,
people they would have to like find out about Esteine,
they would have to find out about Andrew and everything.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Now it's just.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
It's all there in black and white, and they're say,
you know, there's this article after article and info after info,
and now they can actually look and see exactly how
much she was paid off, exactly where.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
The money came from.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Back in the day, they couldn't.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
They couldn't. They couldn't. When I was doing Crisis PR,
if a story, if a terrible story broke today, we
had until tomorrow morning to come up with a response
because the newspaper didn't hit until tomorrow, and so we
had all day to think it through. In the world
we live in now, you have less than ten seconds
you have. It's just niceactly You've got to think immediately.
You've got to be really really quick. I couldn't do

(04:15):
crisis PR anymore. All the rules, or I thought were rules,
weren't rules. There were indications of what to do in
the moment, and that moment has gone, and so like
to hire me if you get in trouble, don't hire
me because I'm playing by rules from ten years ago.
That's what I think has been so successful, Donnie, if
I can say so, in our careers, we've adapted. I've

(04:37):
gone from old school magazine. You've gone from old school
radio to now podcasting to now doing stuff on social
media to no, I've been being out there. I resisted
it at first. I was resentful of it. I liked
being the editor of a magazine and put in out
one issue a week. I had literally seven days to
do really very little work. We really worked on one

(04:57):
and a half day and the other days we went
for lunches like it was a part time job. That
is not the case. Now. I have forced myself with
my substack, to do at least two or three newsletters
a day. They're short, but there's a lot of work.
Like I am chained at my destiniess. I'm not complaining.
I love doing it. You got to adapt. King Charles
wants to adapt. He pretends he's adapted. He keeps talking

(05:19):
about modernizing the royal family. He has not, and the
way that he's handled his brother's awful situation tells us
how far that family has to go. But it's not
just Charles here, it's the people around him. Charles is
still surrounded by the old school, by people in the institution.
They need new, fresh, blurred, new fresh ideas because technology

(05:42):
is not going to slow down for them. I'm not
saying we need to fire everybody over a certain age,
the opposite. A lot of wisdom and a lot of experience.
It still really really matters, but you do need people
around you that understand the moments, that understand the needs
of today. Donna, you've been really successful at doing this
and adapting. You haven't always wanted to, may I add,

(06:03):
but you have started and you've you've done a really
good job of it. What do you think.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, well, first Charles needs little Louis. You needs to
just phone up.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Louis and say, Louis, what is it that I need
to do, and Louis will set them straight. Louis will
let what the thing is is. It's it's a matter
of you have to adapt if you want to if
you want to work, if you want to stay in
the business.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's like, it comes down to your passion, but also
it comes down to whether or not you really want to, Yeah,
And I think if you don't want to, you want
you do, you will.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
You will. There certain amount of pride in there too.
It takes a lot to swallow the fact that what
you were doing no longer works. That's the mistake the
housewives mate. They all try to follow the Bethany Frankel model,
which worked for Bethany twenty years ago, it doesn't work today.
The fact she was one of the first housewives gave
her that platform to be one of the first ones

(07:01):
to start selling stuff, books and products. Now they're all
selling this rubbish and we don't care anymore. You've got
to adapt. You've got to be brave. Charles, b brave.
If you're listening a low alone, you know what the
right thing to do is. You know, cutting off your
brother completely is the right thing to do. You know that,
But you have resisted it. Just just six months ago

(07:24):
we saw Charles with his brother. Just two months ago,
we saw his brother, the disgraced Andrew, at a royal funeral.
He shouldn't have been there. So now they've decided to
react because of this book, because of Virginia Duffy's book,
They've decided to react but it is far too late,
which brings us to our pole question of the day.

(07:44):
King Charles was kind of startled when he was heckled
in public about Prince Andrew's ties to Jeffrey Epstein? Is
this just the beginning? Is this going to happen more?
Every walk about now? Do they have to think about this?
I believe well you all know the answer. Hey, go
vote on our Twitter page at Naughty and Ice rob.
Our facebook page is Naughty Girl zib and be sure

(08:06):
to check back town Barrauta. Here your results. Hey, Donnie Love,
what are you working on? Oh?

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Oh, Brittany. Brittany.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Brittany's back in the headlines and it's not good this
time around. But her friends Madonna and Selena and Paris.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
They've all ghosted her. Where are her friends at now?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
And a source exclusive retail shooter scoop they were front
row for the fairy Tale and that was her wedding
and now that she's struggling, the silence from her friends
is deafening. So it's just say there's no text, there's
no cause, there's nothing they're saying. The Madonna, who once

(08:48):
called Brittany her spiritual daughter, has avoided commenting all together Paris, though,
is the only the only wonders report they actually try
does stay in touch?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Believer?

Speaker 2 (09:02):
You know, here's the thing, though, It's like, how many
times can you help Brittany?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
How many times can you save Brittany? How many times
can you do? You can't?

Speaker 1 (09:10):
You can't, And let's be honest, this friendship was never
really a solid friendship. Madonna did go to her wedding.
Selena Gomez was her wedding too, but I don't think
there were friends as in the way we understand friendship.
The celebrity friendship circle is very interesting and it's very different,
and they're not really friends. It's like the Housewives pretend
to be friends, but they're not really. They're more like colleagues.

(09:31):
They're people that work together, that work in the same business.
When I'm with celebrities, whenever I'm out and about working
with one and we bump into other celebrities, they have
that little celebrity club that they're both a member of.
We've seen this with people we know on Bravo. They're
all members of that Bravo little community. They don't really
know each other. They're not really friends. But I'm on
this show. You're on that show. They're both on Bravo.

(09:53):
Hey we're best mates. It's never quite that simple. And
so I think this is a tricky story to tell
because it is true that Britney is by herself. All
these so called friends are not there when she needs
them the most. Like we should see Madonna pull up
outside Britney's mansion with shopping bags and full of groceries

(10:13):
to help her. We should see Selena Gomez turn up,
but Britney is home too and say can I help.
They're not going to do that. And it's not because
they're staying away because they're embarrassed, which might be part
of it. They don't really know her. They don't really.
It's a show best friendship. It's not a real friendship,
like as and in times in the This is when

(10:34):
you really figure out do you have show bes friends
in your life? Donnie? Do you have real friends in
your life? I think you probably have both. Do you
know the difference? Oh?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Absolutely, you know the difference in even just little things.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
It's like who do you talk to on a regular
basis or who if you were to text, how long
does it take them to text?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Is it days? Is it never What you're trying to
say is I'm a show bis friends. Oh you're wicked
right back right, But that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
It's like then that's how you know. Or it's like
little things of like do they remember your birthday? They
like even something as simple as that, Your show's friends
aren't going to remember.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
They're not going to be friends.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Friends will remember.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, we might not have Showbi's friends. I understand, who
are not all in the positions to meet famous people.
But I can give you an example. Showbier's friends are
your Facebook friends, not your real friends. You like them,
you chat on face, Sure, they're not like your real friends.
That's what's going on with Britney here. She has a
ton of showbiz friends. What she doesn't have is real friends.

(11:37):
And that's that's really, really, really sad. Okay, moving along,
Katherine McPhee is now pretty much a caretaker to David Foster.
So there's a huge age difference here. He's seventy five,
she's forty one. We saw them recently and he didn't
look very very well. But inside's telling me she knew
this day would come. She's not a fool. When you
marry somebody who what're twenty years older than you, more

(11:58):
than twenty years older than you. You know the day
is going to going to happen. And she's not crushed
by this. This is what she signed up for. They
are still very much in love. It's easy to make
fun of this and to sort of do it with
a wink, and we're not doing that here. It's just
kind of factual here that people grow older. If you
do it together great, So a lot of people do
it apart and they don't last. But this is something

(12:21):
that Catherine knew was going to happen. David's not infirm.
He's not sitting at home. He's out and about, but
he's a seventy five year old man. He's recently been
crushed by his Broadway musical Boop, which clapsed pretty fast.
It didn't do very well, but he's still a Powerhouse's
unstoppable also too. I think that when you pull your
soul into a project, which he did with his musical,

(12:43):
and it didn't work out, it's heartbreaking, and then you're
trying to figure out what do I do next? Or
even should I bother? If you work that hard and
it doesn't work, it's easy to get disheartened, isn't it,
and just sort of not give up, but decide to
take a step back. His career now is retired. He's
still involved in the music business, but let's be honest,
he's not getting hits anymore. He worked at Celine Dion,
not Taylor Swift. The baton has been passed to the

(13:05):
next generation. And so Catherine here now a caretaker as
well as a lover. As a wife. Maybe not the
worst thing. And I think he's in good hands here.
We all need someone to care for us at certain
points in our life, and I hope she's going to
step up. What do you think, Well.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I think she will definitely, because she does love the man.
I mean, trust me, she could have left a long
time ago when everybody made fun of her and everybody
talked about the age gap.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
You could have left a long time ago. But here's
the thing.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
It's like, I think the only problem with David is
you've had such a great career and you don't you
don't want your last thing to be a flat And
I think when he's in school, so now he's like,
dang thing.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I would argue, you've got a high note, very good
pun intended I would argue after producing Whitney Houston's I
Will Always Love You. You've got nothing to prove you gotten.
Just play it on repeat, play on repeat. You walk
over to that piano right now, and you look at
all those Grammars. You have loads and lots of Grammys.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Life's okay, You're okay. It's like Madonna's still trying. Girl.
You don't need to try anymore. I'm glad that you are,
and if it makes you happy, keep doing it. But
you've got nothing to prove to anybody. Enjoy your lives. Okay,
we're going to take a quick break and we will
be here right back. Welcome back to the Nordy Nashami
hair so obvious. You to my dear friend Donny. Meetrim. Hey, Donnie,

(14:30):
let's get to the polls. Last show, it took about Maxim,
who used to be on Dancing with the Stars. I
used to have a bit of a crush on him.
Fabulous dancer. His brother's on the show now. He's not
been on the show in a while, however, he's taken
Dan Yan Rannick, that is Taylor Swift's former backup dancer.
He's saying, Yann has no business being on the show.

(14:50):
He's not a real ballroom dancer. Is he right or wrong?
Let's wrong? Sixty percent said right, No, this is what's complicated.
It's not a show about dancing, though, it's a show
about making money for ABC. Like it's a business for
your show. And that's right. The music's not so much

(15:10):
bored of it. I normally don't disagree with the naughties,
but I think I am here. I think jan is
exactly what they do need on the show. And let
me prove it. Their ratings are better than they've been
in a decade. And it's because if one percent of
the Tailor's with fans tune in, that makes a difference.
That's how powerful tailor is.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
But it's Robert, that little Robert.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Erwin people are obsessed with they know how to do.
You're right, this show is not about dancing. Don't make
that mistake. It's about making money for ABC. Hey, go
votes on today's Paul Gonna add Twitter page I naughty
Nie rob Facebook page is naughty gossip. I'm sure to
check back to our he your results. And now it's

(15:52):
time for a nicest of the day.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
No nice in the day is mister Robin Pattinson, there
is you know, the man from Twilight. Also, Batman is
working on a new album, Oh links album.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
And what's even better, he's writing every word himself.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh Christy, you watch out, christ you put a watch
I think this is great. Like some people turn their
nose up when actors want to become musicians. It is
the nicest of the day. Donny, let me remind you
before you get a little bead legacy. Your face turning,
I can see your face turning. I'll give it a go.
You know what if you if you have a passion,

(16:34):
you go for it.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
You go for it.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
The likelihood of it been successful not high, but it
doesn't matter. Robert, you go for it. You listen to Donnie.
Oh that's right, that's a great genius idea. Now I
know she's like only know. The Jonas brothers are fighting again.
So Nick Jonas, who's he used to be in the
center of attention. There's a little jealous that his brother

(16:56):
Joe is stealing all the headlines. So Nick can't stand it.
She used to be in The Golden Boy, the front Man,
but recently all Joe's dating headlines are getting him in
the spotlight. So Nick now is a lovely, happy, settled
married man, and Joe's messiness is what we love. And
so after that ugly divorce with Sophie Turner, he's been

(17:18):
rumored to be dating a bunch of different people. Every
time he's spotted with a beautiful lady, we talk about it. Well,
poor Nicholas, Poor Nick, can't compete with that. You are adorable, Nick,
but you are happily married, and that's not as excitingly
it should be. That should be a great story is
a great story, but it's not the tap of story
we gossip about on our show. I know it's not

(17:40):
so at the moment, Joe is enjoying probably a little
bit more fame the Nick. Don't worry, Nick, you are
still famous and you're still adorable. But you're a bit
naughty for being jealous, and not is the dailor's end.
With a moment of Robbie, only you can change your life.
No one can do it for you, the moment that

(18:01):
you realize that everything starts to shift. No mentor, no
best friend, no opportunity is coming to save you. Change
doesn't start when someone else gives you permission. It starts
when you decide that you are done waiting. The truth
is your life is built on choices that you make

(18:22):
every single day. And that's the best possible news ever,
because that means you're not stuck. What it means is
you are in control. When you stop outsourcing your happiness,
you take back your power. When you stop waiting for
somebody else to fix everything, you start fixing it yourself.

(18:43):
That's when your confidence grows. That's when momentum builds. That's
when everything gets better. Not because your life suddenly changes, no,
but because you do change it yourself. Be your own
hero in your own story. It took me a while
to figure this out, Donnie. I was always hoping the

(19:03):
perfect job would make me happy. I was I was
hoping losing ten pounds would make me delirious. It never
ever works in the long term. It might it might
give you a quick hyt, it might give you a
quick quick buzz, but it never works in the long term,
and the long term it has to come from you.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
What do you think, Well, yeah, that's the thing is
I actually is very very funny. We talked about this
right now because last night literally I sat here and
I was like, I think I enjoy my hanging out
with myself too much. You know what I'm saying, Like
I enjoyed being with myself too much because they don't
like being by themselves and they don't.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
I just make myself laugh. You do, so, I think,
but that I enjoy it, so I don't. I don't
need happiness joke starting for it in somebody else. I
just laugh.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
And we've got to write a book about that. Congratulations
my friends.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Hey, that started with a whisper.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Stud on my new book, Thank you for the plug.
If you haven't brought it yet Amazon, I'm number seventy
one on the charts. The pre sale David Faster pre
sales are doing so well, so if you haven't bought
it yet, it doesn't come out toll April. I get it.
So buying a book now seems ridiculous, but you'll forget
you bought it, and then in April you'll get yourself
a surprise if you buy it now. Though it really

(20:22):
does help me with the algorithm. I don't even pretend
to understand it, but everyone's telling me I gotta sell
these books, so please go and buy it, Rob Shooter,
it started with a whisper, Hey, that's it for today.
Thank you so much for listening to The Naughty but
Nice with Robin Donnie Show, a production of Iheartraggio and
Elvista Ran. Don't forget to subscribe on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts wherever ye listen, leave us a review if

(20:43):
you can. They really do help and remember all together now,
if you're going to be naughty, you got to me.
Let me take care everybody.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
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