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October 24, 2025 20 mins

Kristen Bell dodged tough questions after her “tone-deaf” post, Federline’s memoir tanked under Britney’s fan fury, and Gwyneth’s Goop-fueled parenting ambitions had the internet rolling its eyes. In a town built on reinvention, even the pros are finding it hard to read the room.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Scalable advice for sugar. It's time hell lover, no love
and lovel lo. Welcome to the naught even nice shame
your host, drop shooter. It's Friday, which means our dear
friend Corey Andrew joins us. Hey, Corey, are you there?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I am here. Happy Friday, everyone.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Happy Friday, my friendly Hey, let's jump into the show.
What time is it, my friends? It is tea time.
Big story. At the top of the show, Christen Bell
has broke cover. So if you remember yesterday, we told
you after some tone death remarks, I think we can
all agree that they were at least that let's give
her some benefit of the daddy she withdrew from the
Today Show. Well, she's pomped back up on the red

(00:47):
carpet at the ninety second Street Why where her cast
was doing a talk a red carpet, a panel discussion.
And so she looked calm and collected that. I had
reporters there who said that she was very, very elegant,
but you could tell something was a little a little nervous.
She said something so stupid. During Domestic Violence Awareness Month,

(01:11):
she made a really bad joke about her her husband Dax.
He would never kill her, even though he's wanted to
do it several times. Now. The winner, there's any one
winner of this is Dateline, who liked the post.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I love the good murder So brus think says something
wrong with me because I watch it. Every time there's
a murder on, I have to watch it, and I
always know that it's always the husband. Whole thing to
find out it's the husband. Well, nevertheless, she was back
out there. She hasn't exactly said sorry, she hasn't exactly

(01:50):
gone on social media and explained herself. I think we
all know Kristen Bell is a good person who said
something stupid. We all do things. If she came with
a bad heart. That what it's about. People say awful things.
It's about the intention. If a good person says something dumb,
who hasn't of a bad person say something done dumb,

(02:11):
they're doing it on perverse to really be nasty. The
hard thing is in life is how do you judge
anyone's intentions? Let me tell you how. You look at
the history, You look at who they are. She's a
good person. Everybody I know who has worked with her
say she's great, she's funny, she's cheeky. She wants to
be a stand up comedian. That's what the problem is here.
She really enjoys social media, and I think sometimes she

(02:32):
thinks she's Joan Rivers. Only Joan can say that auto
outragious stuff. So I don't want to get into a
place where artists have to censor themselves. But at the
same time, if this was meant with any bad world,
then don't say it. Don't say it ever, like it's
just not funny, and domestic violence isn't funny. I think
she's learnt her lesson. I wonder there, Corey, do you

(02:54):
think she will apologize she did pull out of the
Today Show. She's back out doing press with her with
her TV show, So no one's gonna ask her any
questions there. They're not journalists. It's a bunch of actors
on stage. It's a very safe environment at the ninety
second Street. Why some people are saying she's a coward
for not sitting down on the Today Show and addressing this,

(03:15):
and so it's not gonna go away. This is always
going to be sort of lingering until she says something.
What should she do?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Well, listen, you know from the PR world, you're from
that world, and one of the things I see here
is a big miss step. The apology should have been immediate.
And this is a woman who, let's you know, she's
been a star for a while. She's got a lot
of money from endorsements, from her movie roles, for a
film role, she's you know, she's got the current TV
commercial now is it for Carfax or one of the

(03:43):
big TV But you know she's worth like sixty million dollars. Okay, yes,
So this was a moment for her to actually realize
the mistake and immediately say, oh my gosh. First of all,
like you just said, Rob, we all say silly things.
We try to be funny and cheeky, and we make missteps.
I am so sorry. I did not mean to do this.
And to show that I am actually in the right place,

(04:04):
I have decided to partner up with some shelters to
donate some resources for people in domestic violent situations like
show me you care and I cans.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Right that check. It's worth every penny of it. If
it costs you half a million, it is worth it.
In PRC, you were in a mess, like you and
this is a mess. You were a lady in frozen
you and now you're talking about domestic violence and making
fun of it. And I know you weren't really making
fun of it, but you were. That's what you'd do,

(04:36):
and so it was so so dumb say sorry. I
would not have canceled the Today Show. I would have
sat ask me any question, and I am ready for it.
The only people that hide in my experience of publicity
and celebrities is the guilty ones. If you didn't mean it.
America is a very forgiving place, they really are. If

(04:57):
you say you are sorry, it is so powerful. I've
learned that in my life. It was once very difficult
for me to say sorry, to admit I've done something wrong.
But now I'm the first story. When I screw up,
and I do all the time, as Bruce would remind
every listenerund the show, when I screw up, and I
do all the time, I'm quite happy to say sorry.

(05:19):
And I mean, that's the difference. I don't just say it.
And I hate those apologies that are like, I'm sorry.
If I offend you misunderstood, that's not sorry. That's not sorry.
Kristen Belt, you did, I was gonna say you did
nothing wrong, but that's not true. You did own it.
That's the start own it say. I made a terrible,
terrible statement. It wasn't even a misstep. It was wrong.

(05:42):
It wasn't a mistake. It was wrong. I thought I
was being funny. I wasn't. I've learned my lesson. Oh
and by the word, here's a check. I'm that's how
you do it down at the ninety second Street one again.
You might be fancy. I'm sure it is, but it ain't.
It ain't the same the same. Sorry, which brings us

(06:04):
to our whole question of the day. Christabella's back out there.
She is doing red carpets again. She looked a little uncomfortable,
but she looks glorious bomb the red carpet at the
ninety second Street Why. Our question is quite simple. Should
she apologize? It's that easy. Should she apologize? Yes or no?
Go vote on our Twitter page at Naughty Nice ram.
Our facebook page is Naughty Gossip. I'm sure to check

(06:26):
back on Monday to hear your results. Hey, Corey, what
are you working on?

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yes, well, this is the most Kevin Fertiline's been in
the news in a long time, so he's still cashing
in trying to cash in on Brittany.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
And those kids.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
But listen, it's not working out apparently because his new
tael Our book, it has bombed, and Britney's fans, you
know what, they have just like basically crushed his cash grab.
So you know it, just as we were saying, karma
came for Kevin and it hit him harder than any
of his failed beats. Okay, so the pop stars ex
husband of course, dropped a scare endless packed memoir called

(07:01):
You Thought You Knew That came out this week, and
he was hoping to reignite his fifteen Minutes of fame. Instead,
the book tanked and it cashed. It crashed and humiliating
number one thousand, one hundred and twenty six on Amazon's
best seller list.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Not good, no, no, I mean I.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Have friends who've released books that have been you know,
who were not associated with fame at all like he
has been, and they're like in the top twenty and so,
you know, so it's really telling that his book did
not do anything. And people are very protective of Brittany,
So let's talk about that too. I think the fans,
the people rallied around and they literally were like, no,
we're not going to even let this book prosper at all.

(07:41):
So for all the noise he made about it, dropping
all these like sort of teasers and tell all little
comments about Brittany here and there, especially the one about
the cocaine and breastfeeding, which I think he dropped as
a scandalous selling point because he thought, oh, people were
going to really run and find out. Well, he basically
gave that big story away. Would I go by the
book now? Right? So anyway, what do you think of

(08:03):
this book?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Flabbing rab We talked about this a few weeks ago.
I just never understood who the audience was for this book.
The Britney fans were not going to buy it. They
did not want to help. So they don't want to
give him a penny. They don't they don't want to
give him a dollar so for eighteen ninety nine, no, no, no,
they are not paying that. So if the Britney fans
are not buying it, who are buying it? Reporters like me,
and we get it all for free, we copy from

(08:25):
the pr establishing. I can't imagine. I'm actually surprised that
you did as well as it is. I know that
sounds terrible. He didn't get a bigger advance. I got
an exclusive story that he only made about sixty thousand dollars,
a lot of money. I did not make that for
my book. Let me be clear that sixty thousand. Britney
made fifteen million front for her yet. But it is Brittany.
The truth is about these celebrity scandals, and it's a

(08:47):
really really tip here. It's an insight into the world
of celebrity. Unless the celebrity themselves are telling their story,
people don't want to buy it, even if it's true.
I've been asked so many times to write a tell
all book on j low, On Diddy, on people I've
worked with, and I've never done it, not because I'm
a good person, but because they don't sell. If I

(09:08):
could make a million dollars, I'd do the j Lob
book five minutes. But people don't want to hear me
telling her secrets. They want to hear her telling her secrets.
And so it's such an interesting little little twist airing
celebrity culture. The other thing that I find interesting Corey
is in the magazine business, if we out somebody, which
we do not do on the show, but many magazines do.

(09:30):
If you out somebody, your numbers go down because the
fans don't buy it. Now, if you come out, if
you were Lance Bass or Ellen, then you come out,
the numbers go through the roof. It's so interesting. It's
not just the story, it's who tells it. We don't
want Kevin telling this story. I, unlike Corey, fear that
a lot of this seat is true. I've been around
Britney at some really really dangerous moments, so I fear

(09:53):
it's true. He's just the wrong. I'm not going to
give him a dollar. The Britney fans are not giving
Kevin dollar. I wonder what he's going to do next
because all the child support that's all stopped. He didn't
make enough money on the book to live the way
that he did when Brittany was paying. Yeah, so what
will he'll end up?

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Oh my gosh, yikes. Well, listen, that's been a saving
grace career for a.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Lot of Yes, we joke about it, Corey are.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Making I've interviewed some of those boys and they're making
six figures sitting at a cubicle.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Before we get any ideas, let me move along. Terrible
here Okay, gwenep Peltra and Chris Martin. I convinced that
Apple is the next Taylor Swift. There is one thing
about your parents encouraging you. They should, but you can
overdo it. And that's what's going on here. So Gweneth
and Chris, they're really proud of their twenty one year
old daughter. It looks like she wants a singing career

(10:47):
now she's on TikTok singing. But I think they might
have oversold her to her. I'm telling Apple that she
is brilliant, that she's the next Taylor Swift, that she's
got the factor, she got the errents, that what she got.
I listened to the video. It's fine. It's no better
than my cousin's. My niece is mine. Like if I

(11:07):
sad like that, you'd all be like, oh, robson, okay, sinking,
but you're not gonna give me a record deal. But
let's be honest, the world works with nepotism. And so
Chris Martin's daughter, could she get a record deal? I
bet she could, But she's not exactly Tailor's with at
least not yet. And that's the trouble. Is she hasn't.
She hasn't paid a due. That's what I think bugs
me here, not just the fact that she's an EPO baby.

(11:30):
That happens in life, it's a fact of life. Some
people have more advantages than others. We don't all start
this game of monopoly with zero. We don't until a
lot of people start with six hotels already. I'm mayfair
me and you caught, oh Cory, we're struggling to get
on the board. That's I get the game is rigged.

(11:52):
But I don't like that she hasn't paid a due.
Start doing little dive bars. Don't don't announce your performing,
don't an action name, going to the name Mountain or Peltrow.
Just turn up. Don't even use the name Apple because
there's no other apples. Yeah, use the name Anne, and
just start doing open mics and start learning your craft.
And I promise you, if you're good, you'll get discovered.

(12:12):
And b if you're not good, you might become good
because you're doing the work. And that's what makes the difference.
She got to do the work, she's not done the work.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Well, that's what I think exactly as well, Rob. You know,
I think in the past I may have mentioned when
I was a talent agent, I had this amazing girl
who came in and she was stunning, and she wanted
to be an actress. Her name was Brooklyn, and she
just didn't really tell me anything else, and she said,
I can play guitar and I can sing, and she
was really, really beautiful, and so we worked together for

(12:41):
a while. She cares some things, and then like four
years later, maybe I turn on a TV show, My
Wife and Kids with Damon Wayam's on NBC and she's
Brooklyn Saldano, Donna Summer's daughter. And she never told me
the entire time I was managing her because she probably
knew that. First, I would think that she's just, you know,

(13:01):
getting ahead because her mom. But I think she really
wanted to make it on her own without that reference.
I was so upset because I would have talked about
her mom.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Lilibet's in ten years when you will just should tell
everybody who you are. Archie. You two, okay, quickly before
we get a break. There's a little drama between Kelly
Ripper and Ma Consuelis. He's so cute, so he's so
so she one is going on, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Mean this was a recipe for disaster to me a
long time ago when he joined her on that show,
But I don't know that was my observation. So basically,
Kelly Ripper and Mark, you know, they are clashing behind
the scenes. Apparently he's not really built for the kind
of fame that Kelly is accustomed to. He likes the fame,
but I think, you know, it's almost like when Madonna
was married to Sean Penn, Like they're both famous, but

(13:47):
there's a different level and one has to be really
comfortable with it and one is not. So that's what's
going on with them now.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Now.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Sources are saying that they're on the air bickerings started
happening this week that well, not started happening, but this
week is sort of reached new heights and it's really
nothing compared to what's been going on off camera, quite honestly.
So you know, he's just not used to this level
of attention, and he loves the paycheck and the perks.
You know, he loves all.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
He loves to be pretty on TV and you know.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Get all the perks and stuff, but he doesn't like
the constant fan interaction that comes along with being a host. Right,
because people when people on the audiences for a daytime
talk show, they really feel they know you.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
And your friends, your friends with the family, right, I
so don't do it. Then, I hate celebrities. They're a
bit a bit rude about sidning autographs. And she's the
one that outed him. They were on the show and
she said, when we're at the airport, you get so mean.
If anybody asks for an autograph that comes up, you
get a bit nasty. And he didn't like that. Yeah,
no I don't and he said, don't put that out.
Oh wow, and they had a little tiff. It's the

(14:48):
first time I've seen those two on air. They sometimes
have a little bit of a shouting math to on air,
she said. And she said, you get nasty at the
airport and you are not nice to people that come
up and ask for autographs. And he did not like,
Oh my goodness said it. I think he did say
it wasn't true, but I think it was. Okay, we're
going to take a quick break and sign lots of

(15:09):
autographs with a big style and we will be right back.
Welcome back to the Not even Nice Show and your
hairstrom shooting with our dear friend, our dear friend, Cory Andrew. Hey, Corey,
let's get to the polls DA. Last year we talked
about Victoria Beckham struggling to talk about David's affair. So
she did a podcast and she was asked about the

(15:29):
affair and she had a really classy answer, which is like,
we've had so much stuff throwing at us. We're still together, right,
twenty six years were still together. That's really great. But
she didn't really get into it. And the follow up question,
our question is, our question is quite simple. Should she
have told all? Because she sort of opened the door,
but she didn't really walk through it. She sort of

(15:49):
walked through it. You can tell she's uncomfortable. Should she
tell all? Or seventy percent said yes, It's best to
just tell all, particularly if you're going to do these documentaries.
She has a new Netflix show out of four part
three part doc mentry about her life. This is a
big part. If you get away, open it up, do it.
If you don't want to do it, don't do it. Okay,
don't forget to vote on today's polka paget Naughty Nice

(16:11):
rob My facebook page is Naughty Gossip. I'm be sure
to check back on Monday to hear your results, and NAIs, oh.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yes, what's a very sweet story and a very competitive
world of TV. So TV's biggest morning stars put their
rivalries on pause for one night, ought to celebrate one
of their own. So you had Hoda, you had Gale
of course, Gail King, Robin Roberts, and Savannah Guthrie. They
all gathered at New York hotspot Michaels to toast ABC
anchor Deborah Roberts and her inspiring new book called Sisters

(16:46):
Loved and Treasured.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Now. It was a glittering.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Crowd equal parts newsroom royalty and publishing elite, and they
all cheered on as Deborah signed her copies of her collection.
Now it's a book of a collective bunch of stories
which feeds fifty heartfelt stories from powerhouse women including viol
The Davis, Jenna Bush, Hagar, Barbara Bush, and many more.
So I think it's a great thing that they all
got together and did that.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
It is support your friends, Support your friends. I have
a book out at the moment, and gosh, you naughties,
you've come through. I'm on the charts. I'm a number
seventy one from the charts. Because of the Naughties. I've
not done any other press from this. My friend Elvis
Durant mentioned me on his massive radio shows, so we
tip up a hat and I think somebody told me
Nancy Grace is telling people people to terrifies me. But

(17:32):
I'll take the compliment. But the hard cool sales have
come from this show. I appreciate it is you can
help a friend do it. I'm not talking about me here,
I'm talking about all of us. I put my money
where my mouth is. When my friends have books or
a project. I don't want to spend one hundred dollars.
But if it's twenty books, I'm doing it. Corey. I'd

(17:53):
take you for a drink body, you know, and it's
probably going to be twenty books. So if I'm going
to take you at a drinker body and as I
might as well buy your once again, thank you, thank you,
thank you, Naughtiz. It's available now rub Shooter on Amazon,
it Star. And I noticed the day Notty Naughty Naughty
did his prison horrifying story might have been a stunt.

(18:14):
So there's word out of the jail that did he
woke up and somebody had a knife at his throat.
Sources are telling me we should expect a lot of
these stories to leak until he gets his part and
he wants people to feel sorry for women. Did He
is a p R wizard. I learned how to be
a publicist working for did He, so I see what
you're up to. Expect more and more of these stories.

(18:36):
As one person involved in the in the prison system
told me, if somebody put a throat to did his neck,
they probably would have cut. And so it's just none
of it really adds up. Prisons are very dangerous places.
I'm not trying to diminish that, but it is odd
at the moment while did He's trying to get a
part of Expect a lot more of these stories. Okay,
let's end with a moment. The truth is we all

(18:59):
have a sad story. Pain is universal. What you do
with it is what sets you apart. You can let
the story become your excuse, become your life, the reason
you don't try anymore, the reason you don't trust, and
the reason you don't change. Or you can let that
sad story give you motivation. The choice is yours. Every

(19:20):
person you admire, think of who you admire. Taylor Swift,
who else? The people that you admire, they've been through
something that could have broken them, the differences, they used
it as fuel. They stopped asking why me, and they
start asking, or at least started saying, watch me do

(19:41):
it now. Naughties, don't allow the sad story in your
life to become your entire book. It's just a story.
It's just one of many, many stories. Hey, that is it?
Love it for this week? Thank you so much for listening.
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