Katy Perry seemingly hinted at Russell Brand’s secrets years before sexual abuse claims came to light. Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner were caught sharing an affectionate moment together while in the star’s car in Los Angeles. Hugh Jackman’s sexuality has been questioned throughout his career, but he and his now-ex-wife, Deborra-Lee were always ready to shut those rumors down.
Rob is joined by his dear pal Garrett Vogel from Elvis Duran and the Morning Show with all the scoop. Don't forget to vote in today's poll on Twitter at @naughtynicerob or in our Facebook group.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm Rob
Shooter and it's Monday, which means a handsome friend. Garrett
Vogel joins, Hey, Garrett, are you there?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You know really how to win me over on a Monday, Rob,
you could have one of the like you know, you
wake up and it's like it's Monday, but then you open
up that link on a zoom room and there you
are with a big smile and the compliments galore.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
How can I not be not in a good mood?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Oh, that's why I'm so good. What I do? I
make you feel very comfortable, and you tell me everything.
Then I tell everybody that terrible. Don't tell me it
annoys Bruce, my husband, he says. I pop out of
bed like a piece of toast. I pop up in
the morning a minute, my eyes open, I'm on, I'm on.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Like lightly crisp. Right, I mean we're not burnt, because you.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Would just be upset, right, that's right, be grumpy enough
where you take it out in the butter melts ring.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I've been a melt today. Okay, let's jump into the show.
We've got a really good one today, some serious stuff today,
but don't worry. It's the Naughty but nine show, So
we're going to keep this happy, happy, happy. What time
is it, my friends? It is te time. So a
real serious story. At the top of the show, Katie
Perry might have hinted that she knew the real truth
about her ex, Russell Brand, years before the sexual abuse claims.
(01:30):
Let me break this down. So Russell Brand has been
accused accused of assaulting four women, four women over a
period of time. It's an explosive accusation that came out
in London. The Sunday Times reported this. Four women have
accused him of rape, sexual assault and emotional abuse. The
(01:53):
incidents allegedly took place between two thousand and six and
two thousand and thirteen. Now people are going back to
an interview that Katie did after her divorce. Remember she
was married to him for not very long, a little
more than a year fourteen months. She gave a really
cryptic interview in twenty thirteen with Vogue, and she seemed
(02:15):
to reference the ongoing allegations against her ex that were
sort of out there. They were not put together in
a big report like the Sunday Times did, But I'd
heard these rumors, and she said the following to the outlet,
and now everybody is wondering what exactly did she mean.
(02:37):
She said, I felt a lot of responsibility for ending
the marriage, but then I found out the real truth,
which I can't necessarily disclose because I keep it locked
in my safe for a rainy day. So Katie is
implying in twenty thirteen, what's that ten years ago that
(02:58):
she knew the truth. She knew the truth, but she
was keeping it under lock and key in case she
needed to use it. Now. I spoke to my Katie's
sources last night and they said absolutely not if she
thought this was happening. If she knew about this, she
would have spoken out. This isn't something that you keep
on the back burner to use against somebody. This is
(03:19):
not that they're a fan of a knaff pop group
or they you know, don't put down the toilet's see.
This is really really serious, serious allegations. And had she
known anything about this, I'm told she would have spoken at.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh, of course, I mean, and I think if we
learned our lesson Ashton Coucher Emila Kunez, you speak up
sooner and you don't support a friend a quote unquote
that is accused and found guilty of serious allegations. So
in case this does go to court, I mean, at
least Russell Brand has Ashton Kutcher on his side. Oh,
Greg him a nice letter, oh you know, and even
(03:57):
that story too. I mean Ashton Cutcher had a step
down from from his sex trafficking organization, yeasation where he
tries to help people. I mean, yeah, just so people
are people? Do you see this a lot rob where
celebrities don't think they just a.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yes, yes. And I see too that because of who
they are, and they used to being told yes that,
they don't shut up often. I find when I was
in crisis PR after a celebrity got themselves in a
lot of trouble and they'd hire Meal my company, I'd
meet with them and one of the very first conversations
(04:37):
was to shut up, to stop, to turn off your phone,
turn off your social media at least for twenty four
hours and figure out here what is going on. Katie
has to address this, I think because this interview in Vogue,
it wasn't just on a red carpet or a SoundBite.
She did a big interview with Vogue and she said
she knew something. She knows the real truth. What were
(04:59):
you talking about?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
So here's the interesting thing.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Katie ten years ago was still she was twenty eight
at the time, twenty seven, twenty eight. She was still
that like, I don't know how to say it, where
she wasn't a kid, but she was still that playful
at it, you know what I mean. Like she'd be like, oh,
I know the dark secrets of her so brand, you
know what I mean, in a joking manner. But now
(05:22):
obviously it doesn't look that it didn't age well doesn't Yeah,
even if she didn't mean it that way.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So she will have some questions to answer.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
But she's got some questions.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
But I do think she just like in that joking manner, like, oh,
I know his dark secrets.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Oh absolutely. I asked her friends. I really I called
like three people, really good sources, people that know Katie
really well, and I said, what she was talking about
is that he snores, he foughts right, he wasn't very
nice to her. The truth was he was a bit
of a rude guy. He didn't turn up on time
they had dates, and he just wouldn't show up. He
wouldn't call her to explain what he was doing. He
disappeared for days at a time. That's what she knew
(06:00):
with him about him, which is really bad when you're
married to somebody, when you love somebody, it's really bad.
But I think that that's the distinction they're making here.
But we want to know what you have to think
about all this. Katy Perry hinted that she knew quote
the real truth about her ex Russell Brand years before
the sexual abuse claims. Our question is did she know? Hey,
(06:22):
go quote on our Twitter page at Naughty Nice Rob
at Facebook pages Nordy Gossip. Am be sure to check
back right here tomorrow to hear your results. Hey, Garrett,
what are you working on?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
So?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I guess you can call these the the co parents
to look up to, right So, Ben Affleck, Jennifer Garner,
they were spotted together over the weekend in Los Angeles,
I believe on Friday, and they were in a car.
And of course people notice that, oh, Ben Affleck and
Jennifer Garner together. They share they share a daughter, you know,
and so I'm sure that there was a or a
(07:00):
meeting about their daughter, you know, to kind of talk
about something that's going on in their lives or checking
to see if something's cool, can they go on vacation
and whatever. But it was amicable in the sense of
sharing their child and and I think they do what
a lot of people should be doing. They look out
for their child's best interests. Yes, so by by fighting
(07:22):
or arguing, it doesn't look good first in the public
because then you know, we see those pictures and we
just assume the worst. And so they were married, I
believe like they were married for ten years. They got
married back in two thousand and five. Then they separated,
and of course everybody's moved on. You know, Jennifer Garner's
with Jonathan Miller, who's a businessman, and of course, as
(07:45):
we know, we ben affleck back with Jennifer Lopez. I
can you forget they're remarried. But but you know, you
like to see the fact that, you know, people do
speak what they say. It's like, hey, we're in this
for the kids, because I think that can thrown out
and thrown up around a lot, especially when people announced
they're getting divorced or a break breaking up. It's like
(08:06):
we're just looking out for the best. Interesting, but they're
actually showing they're showing you. It's like, yes, no, this
right about our kid.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Right, there was some affection in the car. We saw
her put her head on his shoulder. They smiled at
each other. There were some physical contacts. But let me
remind everybody their daughter, sad Athena was in the car too.
It wasn't like Ben and Jen Gardner were driving and
pulled over behind a pizza hut and made that like
(08:33):
they were not looking for a quiet spot, shooter.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
If you were to make out with someone, you would
you would get in the car and go to a
pizza hut.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's where we go. Cart if I said to you
pizza hut, if I was going to if I was
going to have it depends what if I was.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Going to bring me back garden?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Where did you go when you were growing up to
make out in the car? Where would it was?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
More of the woods?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
You know, I see you because like they you know,
there's you know, the the place you would go for
the summer, like the pool and there would be a whole,
you know, big wooded area you'd.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Go in the woods.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And that's what papermaking. As my people who who are
lucky enough to have cars and a lot of my
friends didn't, but they would drive to like a scenic
area or somewhere like the pizza Hut. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I was trying to think about.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
This, but you're gonna hear stories today that Jennifer Lopez
is furious that she's angry. It's naturally their daughter was
in the car. So even if I was going to
make out with an X, which I wouldn't, I certainly
wouldn't be doing it if our daughter was sitting in
the front seat like Jennifer Gardener was behind Sarafina. So
Ben was driving, her daughter was in the front seat,
(09:40):
and she was in the backseat, so she leant over
to chat, to talk and gently put her head on
his shoulder. There's affection here, and I think you're really right,
And I'd like to believe I'm the type of person
that could do this. I like to believe they're still
friends after ten years together. You don't have to hate
each other when you break up. How are you, Garrett? Now,
you're not a breakup type of guy. But if you
(10:02):
if you fall out with somebody, is it, is it
really aggressive for the rest of your life? Or do
you forgive?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Or where are you you really gotta f me over you.
If you really screw me over you? Are you you?
You made the list, You're on the list.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
It's a short list.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
There's a short list of maybe about four people that
then that you mentioned their name. Right now, I'll slam
this shut and I'll start.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So there is people that are people.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, there are people and they know who they are
and they will get theirs one day. Mmmm.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Okay, let's move along. Q Jackman and his wife Deb
have split. I saw these two about two months ago
walking down the West Side Highway and I stopped. I
know Deb, and we had a little chat and Hugh
was there. It's really weird because I was talking to
Deb and to my left was Wolverine, like just standing
there and I was like, oh, hello, I love the
Grady Show. I love that movie. And so they've broken up.
(11:00):
And now there's lots of rumors that he's gay. It's
not true, and they have spoken about this over the years.
He sat down with sixty Minutes in Australia in twenty
thirteen and they asked him about the rumors and he said,
it's no, it's not me, and it's not the most
interesting thing about a person anyway, he doesn't think that's
the most interesting things. But he did say I do
(11:21):
get frustrated for Deb because I see Deb go ah,
this is just crazy. Now. Deb has spoken and about
it too, and she said sometimes it does bug her.
And it's like saying Elton Johnny is straight. I'm sure
Elton would be pissed if you said that, because it's
not true. They parted waves they announced it on Friday's.
Sources tell me they broke up a couple of months ago.
(11:43):
They're still friends. They're still talking and I'm told there's
no other person involved here, not guys, not girls, nobody
else is involved. They grew apart. They have kids too,
that they have two kids. The kids are with her
at the moment. He's moved out of the apartment. He's
moved all the way downtown. There were some photograph of
him out yesterday on a city bike. I'm told they're
(12:03):
trying to still be friends, but it is tricky. Now.
How long have you been Marret Garrett.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Ten years last June?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
How do you stop becoming roommates? How do you remain
husband and wife?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
A lot of work.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
It's like you could easily fall into it, like it's
it's almost like you close your eyes one day and
it's like, what the hell happened here?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
It's it's almost like you gotta be you gotta be cognizant,
you gotta be vigilant.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, you've gotta be on it.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You gotta put you gotta put the work in, and
not not just I don't think they they didn't try
to put it in the work, but I do think
over the last let's just say, five years, Hugh Jackman
has I mean Broadway every night being Wolverine, going overseas
to film a possible new movie with you know, Ryan Reynolds,
(12:52):
like he like they're they're what, they're in their sixth
they're in their mid six.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
She's in her Yeah, she's in her late sixty sixty seven.
I believe he's in his fifties. There's a thirteen year
age app and that's caused a lot of debate too.
But let me once again talk out here on behalf
of deb When they met, she was a star in
Australia and he was straight out of drama school. So
when she met him, for the first many years, she
paid all the bills. So everybody's like, oh, she married
(13:18):
this multimillionaire. I was like, no, no, no. When they met,
Deab was the star, Deab was the millionaire. It makes
me sad after twenty seven years, but I do get it.
It's really easy to lose the romance and forget that
your husband and wife have become roommates.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Do you think that, I mean just solely based off
of age alone right now, not the difference. But she's
sixty seven, he's fifty four. They have two kids. I mean,
and I think we've talked about this. You know a lot.
You only have one life and it's very short, and
how much time.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
That's part of it. She wants to be in love again.
I'm told it was deb that broke it up. That
Debab ultimately was the one that said this wasn't working
for her anymore. She wants to be in love, She
wants to have somebody in her life.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
That gazelle type situation.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah's not anything bad here. We just we're getting to
that age where we think about it, okay quickly before
we get a break. Drew barrymore, what's going on? Announcement?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, a few weeks ago. Hey, I'm bringing the show back.
This is my this is my decision.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I owned it.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And then on Friday she posted another Instagram, this time upset,
saying she listened to the people out there and that
she she is going to stop it. Which was interesting though,
because when she first posted it, she said the show
was continuing, and then that got deleted, and then she
posted another one and saying no, her talk show is
going to go on hiatus until the whole strike situation
(14:47):
gets figured out.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, she had a lot of backlash, and I think
this is all aimed at Drew because she set herself
up early on and we loved her for it as
being on the union side. Remember she pulled out of
the hosting the MTV Awards she I would not host
it because of the strikes. Who were like yes, Drew,
And then she announced the share was coming back and
everyone was like oh. And then she put out a
tearful video crying saying she can't make anybody happy, she
(15:11):
doesn't know what to do. Rosie O'Donnell and Debrah Messin
and lots of celebrities said just don't do the show pause.
What I want to take away from this is you
can make mistakes. We're all human, but you ultimately can
listen and make the right decisions. So I'm going to
applaud you Drew here. I'm not going to beat her
up for finally getting which I think is to the
(15:33):
right place.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
It's interesting where we are in the strike right now,
because you know, there are each type of entertainment there's
a different division, you know, so like writers and actors.
So that's the union that they're fighting for right now.
But if you realize Jerry O'Connell is also on the Talk,
the Talk is not coming back because they're siding with
the writer's strike. But Jerry O'Connell also hosts a game
(15:55):
show called Pictionary Dictionary where game shows and a different contract.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It's a different contact.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And you know, it's interesting because of the strike, two
of the biggest you can argue movie stars at the
time don't have anything to film, So what did they do?
John Cena and Dwayne the Rock Johnson have returned to
wrestling where they are allowed to.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Be on TV and not break any.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It's much more complicated, isn't it. I think that's why
people are still sort of learning so much. Hey, we've
got to take a quick break to pay the bills,
and we will be right back, Welcome to the news.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Should have made.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
A friend Garrott Vergel, Hey, Garrett, let's get to the poll.
Thank you, Darling lash Ye. We talked about Kaitlyn Jenner,
who said that Kim Kardashian calculated fame from the very beginning.
That's not whether or not Caitlyn was right, because I
think we all know that, and I actually admire her
for it. I like ambition a question should a family
member be talking about this like Caitlyn did a documentary
(16:56):
about a family member? Should Kaitlyn be doing Let's have
a look, oh naughties? Sixty percent say no. Do you know, Garrett,
when you make it big? Not if? When who and
your family will be sitting down talking about you? Yes, yes, yes,
and yes Hudson your son. No.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
No, I'll pay off my kids very very early in
this process.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
But yeah, everybody else. Hey, hey, mom, you need to
tell grandma to be quiet.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Hey, don't forget to vote on today's Paul. I hope
you're voting too, Grandma, And you can go to our
Twitter page. Naughty, nice were about Facebook page? Is not?
He goes, say manb sewer to check back tomorrow to
hear your will result, Hey, I love this story. Yes,
it's time for our nicest.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Of the den.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
All right, So now let me test you a little bit,
rob Shooter. Do you know who Travis Kelson is?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Not I do now because of the story you're about
to do, but twenty four hours ago, no idea.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
So actually, yeah, he's a super Bowl champion.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
He's one he was on s n L before the strike,
and he is he's you.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Know, kind of pop culturists.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So the rumor was that, or the rumor still is
that he's dating Taylor Swift. And uh with that the
the his team played this weekend down in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Do you think Taylor Swift was down in Jacksonville? No, no, no,
no no.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
She actually was out with one of her best friends,
Blake Lively, for a little dinner and they they were
they were pretty much they were at zero Bond, which
is a very very.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Nice I'm a member there. You believe that I passed
by it. We'll have the naughty but Nice Christmas party there.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yes, all four of us and some of the naughties.
So but and and earlier in the week too, Taylor
Swift also was catching up with Selena Goldman has in
Rhode Island. Uh so, so it's interesting. I love the
story of even though if it's not true, just the
it feels like almost like a romance novel where he literally.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Put it on to social media.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Hey, I wanted to go to the show because I
love tellerscript, but I also wanted to give her one
of the friendship bracelets. Now we don't know if he
actually did or didn't, but it actually had started the waves.
He was asked, I don't know if it's true. We're
just having a lot of fun right now. But the
way Travis Kelsey's brother answered it live on TV, it
does feel like Travis Kelsey and Taylorscrift are.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
It does well. They were spotted update update they were
spotted getting off a plane together a private play and
in my ammy boom okay, I noticed the day notty naughty,
naughty Carol Rezawell is calling out Bethany Frankel for giving
away used makeup. So Bethany went, I know, to TJ
Max and she gave employees makeup that she had once
owned as a gift. It was open and somebody went
(19:43):
on TikTok who was at TJ Max and said be
Bethany's given away to employers her opened once used makeup
as a gift. Nobody wants you used makeup. Lady. She
is right, Bethany, You've got millions. If you want to
give makeup away, make sure it's new and not is
the day. Let's end with a moment of Rob. Remember
(20:03):
every friend in your life, every single friend in your life,
used to be a stranger. When you see a stranger,
that could be your new best friend. That is it
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I might be seeing him a little later, not one
on one as a whole group, but I'll tell you
(20:44):
about that's a tease tomorrow tomorrow. No, we're not going
to zero bond. Okay, let's have our little ending. Everybody
are you ready? Clear your throats, even good voice, everybody, Okay,
let's all sing along. If you're going to be, you
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Speaker 3 (21:04):
It's not even nice with Rob
It's welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm Rob
Shooter and it's Monday, which means a handsome friend. Garrett
Vogel joins, Hey, Garrett, are you there?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You know really how to win me over on a Monday, Rob,
you could have one of the like you know, you
wake up and it's like it's Monday, but then you open
up that link on a zoom room and there you
are with a big smile and the compliments galore.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
How can I not be not in a good mood?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Oh, that's why I'm so good. What I do? I
make you feel very comfortable, and you tell me everything.
Then I tell everybody that terrible. Don't tell me it
annoys Bruce, my husband, he says. I pop out of
bed like a piece of toast. I pop up in
the morning a minute, my eyes open, I'm on, I'm on.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Like lightly crisp. Right, I mean we're not burnt, because you.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Would just be upset, right, that's right, be grumpy enough
where you take it out in the butter melts ring.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I've been a melt today. Okay, let's jump into the show.
We've got a really good one today, some serious stuff today,
but don't worry. It's the Naughty but nine show, So
we're going to keep this happy, happy, happy. What time
is it, my friends? It is te time. So a
real serious story. At the top of the show, Katie
Perry might have hinted that she knew the real truth
about her ex, Russell Brand, years before the sexual abuse claims.
(01:30):
Let me break this down. So Russell Brand has been
accused accused of assaulting four women, four women over a
period of time. It's an explosive accusation that came out
in London. The Sunday Times reported this. Four women have
accused him of rape, sexual assault and emotional abuse. The
(01:53):
incidents allegedly took place between two thousand and six and
two thousand and thirteen. Now people are going back to
an interview that Katie did after her divorce. Remember she
was married to him for not very long, a little
more than a year fourteen months. She gave a really
cryptic interview in twenty thirteen with Vogue, and she seemed
(02:15):
to reference the ongoing allegations against her ex that were
sort of out there. They were not put together in
a big report like the Sunday Times did, But I'd
heard these rumors, and she said the following to the outlet,
and now everybody is wondering what exactly did she mean.
(02:37):
She said, I felt a lot of responsibility for ending
the marriage, but then I found out the real truth,
which I can't necessarily disclose because I keep it locked
in my safe for a rainy day. So Katie is
implying in twenty thirteen, what's that ten years ago that
(02:58):
she knew the truth. She knew the truth, but she
was keeping it under lock and key in case she
needed to use it. Now. I spoke to my Katie's
sources last night and they said absolutely not if she
thought this was happening. If she knew about this, she
would have spoken out. This isn't something that you keep
on the back burner to use against somebody. This is
(03:19):
not that they're a fan of a knaff pop group
or they you know, don't put down the toilet's see.
This is really really serious, serious allegations. And had she
known anything about this, I'm told she would have spoken at.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh, of course, I mean, and I think if we
learned our lesson Ashton Coucher Emila Kunez, you speak up
sooner and you don't support a friend a quote unquote
that is accused and found guilty of serious allegations. So
in case this does go to court, I mean, at
least Russell Brand has Ashton Kutcher on his side. Oh,
Greg him a nice letter, oh you know, and even
(03:57):
that story too. I mean Ashton Cutcher had a step
down from from his sex trafficking organization, yeasation where he
tries to help people. I mean, yeah, just so people
are people? Do you see this a lot rob where
celebrities don't think they just a.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yes, yes. And I see too that because of who
they are, and they used to being told yes that,
they don't shut up often. I find when I was
in crisis PR after a celebrity got themselves in a
lot of trouble and they'd hire Meal my company, I'd
meet with them and one of the very first conversations
(04:37):
was to shut up, to stop, to turn off your phone,
turn off your social media at least for twenty four
hours and figure out here what is going on. Katie
has to address this, I think because this interview in Vogue,
it wasn't just on a red carpet or a SoundBite.
She did a big interview with Vogue and she said
she knew something. She knows the real truth. What were
(04:59):
you talking about?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
So here's the interesting thing.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Katie ten years ago was still she was twenty eight
at the time, twenty seven, twenty eight. She was still
that like, I don't know how to say it, where
she wasn't a kid, but she was still that playful
at it, you know what I mean. Like she'd be like, oh,
I know the dark secrets of her so brand, you
know what I mean, in a joking manner. But now
(05:22):
obviously it doesn't look that it didn't age well doesn't Yeah,
even if she didn't mean it that way.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So she will have some questions to answer.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
But she's got some questions.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
But I do think she just like in that joking manner, like, oh,
I know his dark secrets.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Oh absolutely. I asked her friends. I really I called
like three people, really good sources, people that know Katie
really well, and I said, what she was talking about
is that he snores, he foughts right, he wasn't very
nice to her. The truth was he was a bit
of a rude guy. He didn't turn up on time
they had dates, and he just wouldn't show up. He
wouldn't call her to explain what he was doing. He
disappeared for days at a time. That's what she knew
(06:00):
with him about him, which is really bad when you're
married to somebody, when you love somebody, it's really bad.
But I think that that's the distinction they're making here.
But we want to know what you have to think
about all this. Katy Perry hinted that she knew quote
the real truth about her ex Russell Brand years before
the sexual abuse claims. Our question is did she know? Hey,
(06:22):
go quote on our Twitter page at Naughty Nice Rob
at Facebook pages Nordy Gossip. Am be sure to check
back right here tomorrow to hear your results. Hey, Garrett,
what are you working on?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
So?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I guess you can call these the the co parents
to look up to, right So, Ben Affleck, Jennifer Garner,
they were spotted together over the weekend in Los Angeles,
I believe on Friday, and they were in a car.
And of course people notice that, oh, Ben Affleck and
Jennifer Garner together. They share they share a daughter, you know,
and so I'm sure that there was a or a
(07:00):
meeting about their daughter, you know, to kind of talk
about something that's going on in their lives or checking
to see if something's cool, can they go on vacation
and whatever. But it was amicable in the sense of
sharing their child and and I think they do what
a lot of people should be doing. They look out
for their child's best interests. Yes, so by by fighting
(07:22):
or arguing, it doesn't look good first in the public
because then you know, we see those pictures and we
just assume the worst. And so they were married, I
believe like they were married for ten years. They got
married back in two thousand and five. Then they separated,
and of course everybody's moved on. You know, Jennifer Garner's
with Jonathan Miller, who's a businessman, and of course, as
(07:45):
we know, we ben affleck back with Jennifer Lopez. I
can you forget they're remarried. But but you know, you
like to see the fact that, you know, people do
speak what they say. It's like, hey, we're in this
for the kids, because I think that can thrown out
and thrown up around a lot, especially when people announced
they're getting divorced or a break breaking up. It's like
(08:06):
we're just looking out for the best. Interesting, but they're
actually showing they're showing you. It's like, yes, no, this
right about our kid.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Right, there was some affection in the car. We saw
her put her head on his shoulder. They smiled at
each other. There were some physical contacts. But let me
remind everybody their daughter, sad Athena was in the car too.
It wasn't like Ben and Jen Gardner were driving and
pulled over behind a pizza hut and made that like
(08:33):
they were not looking for a quiet spot, shooter.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
If you were to make out with someone, you would
you would get in the car and go to a
pizza hut.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's where we go. Cart if I said to you
pizza hut, if I was going to if I was
going to have it depends what if I was.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Going to bring me back garden?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Where did you go when you were growing up to
make out in the car? Where would it was?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
More of the woods?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
You know, I see you because like they you know,
there's you know, the the place you would go for
the summer, like the pool and there would be a whole,
you know, big wooded area you'd.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Go in the woods.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And that's what papermaking. As my people who who are
lucky enough to have cars and a lot of my
friends didn't, but they would drive to like a scenic
area or somewhere like the pizza Hut. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I was trying to think about.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
This, but you're gonna hear stories today that Jennifer Lopez
is furious that she's angry. It's naturally their daughter was
in the car. So even if I was going to
make out with an X, which I wouldn't, I certainly
wouldn't be doing it if our daughter was sitting in
the front seat like Jennifer Gardener was behind Sarafina. So
Ben was driving, her daughter was in the front seat,
(09:40):
and she was in the backseat, so she leant over
to chat, to talk and gently put her head on
his shoulder. There's affection here, and I think you're really right,
And I'd like to believe I'm the type of person
that could do this. I like to believe they're still
friends after ten years together. You don't have to hate
each other when you break up. How are you, Garrett? Now,
you're not a breakup type of guy. But if you
(10:02):
if you fall out with somebody, is it, is it
really aggressive for the rest of your life? Or do
you forgive?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Or where are you you really gotta f me over you.
If you really screw me over you? Are you you?
You made the list, You're on the list.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
It's a short list.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
There's a short list of maybe about four people that
then that you mentioned their name. Right now, I'll slam
this shut and I'll start.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So there is people that are people.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, there are people and they know who they are
and they will get theirs one day. Mmmm.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Okay, let's move along. Q Jackman and his wife Deb
have split. I saw these two about two months ago
walking down the West Side Highway and I stopped. I
know Deb, and we had a little chat and Hugh
was there. It's really weird because I was talking to
Deb and to my left was Wolverine, like just standing
there and I was like, oh, hello, I love the
Grady Show. I love that movie. And so they've broken up.
(11:00):
And now there's lots of rumors that he's gay. It's
not true, and they have spoken about this over the years.
He sat down with sixty Minutes in Australia in twenty
thirteen and they asked him about the rumors and he said,
it's no, it's not me, and it's not the most
interesting thing about a person anyway, he doesn't think that's
the most interesting things. But he did say I do
(11:21):
get frustrated for Deb because I see Deb go ah,
this is just crazy. Now. Deb has spoken and about
it too, and she said sometimes it does bug her.
And it's like saying Elton Johnny is straight. I'm sure
Elton would be pissed if you said that, because it's
not true. They parted waves they announced it on Friday's.
Sources tell me they broke up a couple of months ago.
(11:43):
They're still friends. They're still talking and I'm told there's
no other person involved here, not guys, not girls, nobody
else is involved. They grew apart. They have kids too,
that they have two kids. The kids are with her
at the moment. He's moved out of the apartment. He's
moved all the way downtown. There were some photograph of
him out yesterday on a city bike. I'm told they're
(12:03):
trying to still be friends, but it is tricky. Now.
How long have you been Marret Garrett.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Ten years last June?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
How do you stop becoming roommates? How do you remain
husband and wife?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
A lot of work.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
It's like you could easily fall into it, like it's
it's almost like you close your eyes one day and
it's like, what the hell happened here?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
It's it's almost like you gotta be you gotta be cognizant,
you gotta be vigilant.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, you've gotta be on it.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You gotta put you gotta put the work in, and
not not just I don't think they they didn't try
to put it in the work, but I do think
over the last let's just say, five years, Hugh Jackman
has I mean Broadway every night being Wolverine, going overseas
to film a possible new movie with you know, Ryan Reynolds,
(12:52):
like he like they're they're what, they're in their sixth
they're in their mid six.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
She's in her Yeah, she's in her late sixty sixty seven.
I believe he's in his fifties. There's a thirteen year
age app and that's caused a lot of debate too.
But let me once again talk out here on behalf
of deb When they met, she was a star in
Australia and he was straight out of drama school. So
when she met him, for the first many years, she
paid all the bills. So everybody's like, oh, she married
(13:18):
this multimillionaire. I was like, no, no, no. When they met,
Deab was the star, Deab was the millionaire. It makes
me sad after twenty seven years, but I do get it.
It's really easy to lose the romance and forget that
your husband and wife have become roommates.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Do you think that, I mean just solely based off
of age alone right now, not the difference. But she's
sixty seven, he's fifty four. They have two kids. I mean,
and I think we've talked about this. You know a lot.
You only have one life and it's very short, and
how much time.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
That's part of it. She wants to be in love again.
I'm told it was deb that broke it up. That
Debab ultimately was the one that said this wasn't working
for her anymore. She wants to be in love, She
wants to have somebody in her life.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
That gazelle type situation.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah's not anything bad here. We just we're getting to
that age where we think about it, okay quickly before
we get a break. Drew barrymore, what's going on? Announcement?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, a few weeks ago. Hey, I'm bringing the show back.
This is my this is my decision.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I owned it.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And then on Friday she posted another Instagram, this time upset,
saying she listened to the people out there and that
she she is going to stop it. Which was interesting though,
because when she first posted it, she said the show
was continuing, and then that got deleted, and then she
posted another one and saying no, her talk show is
going to go on hiatus until the whole strike situation
(14:47):
gets figured out.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, she had a lot of backlash, and I think
this is all aimed at Drew because she set herself
up early on and we loved her for it as
being on the union side. Remember she pulled out of
the hosting the MTV Awards she I would not host
it because of the strikes. Who were like yes, Drew,
And then she announced the share was coming back and
everyone was like oh. And then she put out a
tearful video crying saying she can't make anybody happy, she
(15:11):
doesn't know what to do. Rosie O'Donnell and Debrah Messin
and lots of celebrities said just don't do the show pause.
What I want to take away from this is you
can make mistakes. We're all human, but you ultimately can
listen and make the right decisions. So I'm going to
applaud you Drew here. I'm not going to beat her
up for finally getting which I think is to the
(15:33):
right place.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
It's interesting where we are in the strike right now,
because you know, there are each type of entertainment there's
a different division, you know, so like writers and actors.
So that's the union that they're fighting for right now.
But if you realize Jerry O'Connell is also on the Talk,
the Talk is not coming back because they're siding with
the writer's strike. But Jerry O'Connell also hosts a game
(15:55):
show called Pictionary Dictionary where game shows and a different contract.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It's a different contact.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And you know, it's interesting because of the strike, two
of the biggest you can argue movie stars at the
time don't have anything to film, So what did they do?
John Cena and Dwayne the Rock Johnson have returned to
wrestling where they are allowed to.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Be on TV and not break any.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It's much more complicated, isn't it. I think that's why
people are still sort of learning so much. Hey, we've
got to take a quick break to pay the bills,
and we will be right back, Welcome to the news.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Should have made.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
A friend Garrott Vergel, Hey, Garrett, let's get to the poll.
Thank you, Darling lash Ye. We talked about Kaitlyn Jenner,
who said that Kim Kardashian calculated fame from the very beginning.
That's not whether or not Caitlyn was right, because I
think we all know that, and I actually admire her
for it. I like ambition a question should a family
member be talking about this like Caitlyn did a documentary
(16:56):
about a family member? Should Kaitlyn be doing Let's have
a look, oh naughties? Sixty percent say no. Do you know, Garrett,
when you make it big? Not if? When who and
your family will be sitting down talking about you? Yes, yes, yes,
and yes Hudson your son. No.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
No, I'll pay off my kids very very early in
this process.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
But yeah, everybody else. Hey, hey, mom, you need to
tell grandma to be quiet.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Hey, don't forget to vote on today's Paul. I hope
you're voting too, Grandma, And you can go to our
Twitter page. Naughty, nice were about Facebook page? Is not?
He goes, say manb sewer to check back tomorrow to
hear your will result, Hey, I love this story. Yes,
it's time for our nicest.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Of the den.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
All right, So now let me test you a little bit,
rob Shooter. Do you know who Travis Kelson is?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Not I do now because of the story you're about
to do, but twenty four hours ago, no idea.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
So actually, yeah, he's a super Bowl champion.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
He's one he was on s n L before the strike,
and he is he's you.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Know, kind of pop culturists.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So the rumor was that, or the rumor still is
that he's dating Taylor Swift. And uh with that the
the his team played this weekend down in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Do you think Taylor Swift was down in Jacksonville? No, no, no,
no no.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
She actually was out with one of her best friends,
Blake Lively, for a little dinner and they they were
they were pretty much they were at zero Bond, which
is a very very.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Nice I'm a member there. You believe that I passed
by it. We'll have the naughty but Nice Christmas party there.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yes, all four of us and some of the naughties.
So but and and earlier in the week too, Taylor
Swift also was catching up with Selena Goldman has in
Rhode Island. Uh so, so it's interesting. I love the
story of even though if it's not true, just the
it feels like almost like a romance novel where he literally.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Put it on to social media.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Hey, I wanted to go to the show because I
love tellerscript, but I also wanted to give her one
of the friendship bracelets. Now we don't know if he
actually did or didn't, but it actually had started the waves.
He was asked, I don't know if it's true. We're
just having a lot of fun right now. But the
way Travis Kelsey's brother answered it live on TV, it
does feel like Travis Kelsey and Taylorscrift are.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
It does well. They were spotted update update they were
spotted getting off a plane together a private play and
in my ammy boom okay, I noticed the day notty naughty,
naughty Carol Rezawell is calling out Bethany Frankel for giving
away used makeup. So Bethany went, I know, to TJ
Max and she gave employees makeup that she had once
owned as a gift. It was open and somebody went
(19:43):
on TikTok who was at TJ Max and said be
Bethany's given away to employers her opened once used makeup
as a gift. Nobody wants you used makeup. Lady. She
is right, Bethany, You've got millions. If you want to
give makeup away, make sure it's new and not is
the day. Let's end with a moment of Rob. Remember
(20:03):
every friend in your life, every single friend in your life,
used to be a stranger. When you see a stranger,
that could be your new best friend. That is it
for today. Thank you so much for listening to the
Not Even Nice with Rob and Garrett Show, a production
of iHeartRadio. Don't forget to subscribe on the iHeartRadio app
(20:23):
Apple podcast wherever you listen. Please do we love you,
We love you, we love you, and thank you for
getting us back in the top ten this weekend. We
are grateful. And guess who arrives today in New York City.
Prince William. We'll have all the news about that tomorrow.
I might be seeing him a little later, not one
on one as a whole group, but I'll tell you
(20:44):
about that's a tease tomorrow tomorrow. No, we're not going
to zero bond. Okay, let's have our little ending. Everybody
are you ready? Clear your throats, even good voice, everybody, Okay,
let's all sing along. If you're going to be, you
gotta be. Thank you guy, you kid, Pip Pip.
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