Kelly Clarkson has addressed a report detailing the culture on her daytime talk show. During her performance Taylor Swift rebuked a security guard who apparently crossed the line in their interaction with fans. King Charles and son Prince Harry spoke the night before the Coronation.
Rob is joined by his dear pal Garrett Vogel from Elvis Duran and the Morning Show with all the scoop. Don't forget to vote in today's poll on Twitter at @naughtynicerob or in our Facebook group.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Advice shooters.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
No, welcome to the Naughty Beani Show. I'm your host,
Drubs Shooter. It's Monday, which means our dear friend, Garrett
Vogel joins us. Hey, Garrett, are.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You there, Robert? You're ready for this rob shooter? All right,
So we're on a zoom room right now and we're
recording the show, and uh, your camera's off. So I
only like to believe that you are either your makeup's
not on, or you are in the nude.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Look at that. My cameras on.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You are you will receive. You are like the great
and parafule eyes coming out from beyond the curtain, going, aha,
you are wrong. I am here, greeting friend.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Look at that. I'm here.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I forgot to hit my camera. Ah, that's why we
were a little bit late starting. You didn't see my
face pop up.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah. I was sitting there and going, you know, like
you're in the waiting room at the doctor's office and
you're just like flipping through magazines, and you know, time
goes by and it's like, well, maybe maybe the doctor
forgot about me. And then you're like, you know what,
I'm just going to go up to the front desk
and ask them if he's still.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Excuse me, excuse me, I'm here too much longer. They're like,
you can sit back down. We know you're here. I know,
I know, I know. Okay, let's jump into the show.
I've got too so much gossip about one of your
favorite people in the whole wide world, Garret, I don't
know your favorite celebrity. What time is it? My friends,
so this tea time. This story was kind of shocking.
So over the weekend a massive story blew up that
Kelly Clarkson Show, not Kelly Clarkson, but the show was
(01:38):
an alleged toxic work environment at Toxic work Culture. Kelly's
finally addressing this, she put out a statement on Instagram
she doesn't miss about when she sees there's a problem.
A lot of celebrities, including Ellen, when this happened to her,
sort of disappeared for a little bit too long. Kelly
was right out, and she said quote to find out
(01:58):
that anybody is feeling unheard or disrespected on the show
is unacceptable. I have always been and will continue to
be committed to creating and maintaining a safe and healthy
environment at the Kelly Clarkson Show. Just a little bit
of background here. So Rolling Stone, very reputable, put our
(02:21):
report on Friday that eleven current and former employees of
the show had made complaints about being overworked and underpaid,
and they went on to say that the work environment
was toxic. They did add, though, which I thought was
so interesting and very unusual on these type of stories,
that Kelly was great. They had no complaint with her.
(02:41):
It was all the other people on the show. Yes,
her name is on the door of the show, but
they didn't think she knew and if she was guilty
of anything, it was being in a little bubble where
very few people on the show actually really got to
talk to her, and so she wasn't aware of how
bad things actually are.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
All Right, Yes, I will take the side of Kelly
Clarkson no matter what she does in life. But yes,
it does suck to hear that. Now here's here's me
looking past page one of the headlines. The show is
moving from LA to New York, and it just so
happens that this story is coming out just as people
are unfortunately losing their jobs. So it was either probably
(03:21):
a hey, we're moving, or a jealous jealous x you know,
a jilted lover when you know, you break up with
someone and then all of a sudden they love you
up until the moment like you guys separate and then
all of a sudden was like, oh, well you have
bad breath. Then I've just I've held that in for
so long, and i just didn't have the heart to
tell you, like like you've been working there for so long,
(03:43):
and then all of a sudden, this expose comes out. You.
You obviously go to Rolling Stone and say, hey, these
are the these are the conditions I'm working in. But
yet you still stay there just as the show's moving,
and and maybe you didn't get the opportunity or were
given the opportunity to get up and move across the
country to New York. That's just me, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I'm in this business, so I'm in the gossip business,
so I know how these stories often happen, how they work.
It takes a massive event, something like a show moving
or somebody getting fired often for people to talk. And
so for instance, a lot of people have just been
fired from the Sherry Shepherd Show who have been with
Sherry now over a year. Those people are happy to
(04:25):
talk about their experience because they're not frightened of losing
their jobs anymore. So it's quite complicated here. So I
personally feel as if the momentous move moving to New
York has freed some people up to reveal the truth.
Their truth here right, eleven people is a lot of people.
If this was a few people who were angry or
(04:46):
a few people that had lost their joms. I mean,
we've all lost our jobs. How often have we run
to the press and made something up? I know I've
never done that.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
It's the entertainment business, though, you know what I mean?
And I think we've the other thing I I've seen too,
because we've both been around celebrities and all it takes
is one bad day or one whatever. You know. Given
they didn't knock Kelly Clarkson, but maybe they didn't have
they wanted to be closer to Kelly Clarkson, they didn't
get that access because of their job title, you know
(05:19):
what I mean. Like if you were if you were
a show runner, you're not hanging out with Kelly Clarkson
and the executive producers. You're grabbing coffee, you know what
I mean. If you are a producer, you're talking to
the guest. You're not hanging out with Kelly Clarkson specifically
in her inner circle of producers.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, I think you're onto something, But I do also
believe that we've all worked at jobs right where there
have been bad days, And then does that make that
job toxic? Just because you have one or two, or
three or four bad days, saying the whole year you
have twenty percent bad days and eighty percent good days?
(05:55):
Is the show toxic? Is your work environment toxic?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Like?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Where's the line? It's very completing. I try to make
sure as somebody that runs my own business, I'm the boss, right,
and so I make sure that every day were fair.
We try to do our best. There are days where
I'm not as happy as others. But I really think
about this. If I give somebody just one day of
attitude of making them feel bad about themselves, then in
(06:19):
my opinion, that's a toxic work environment.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And I shouldn't just wait till this show's over. I shooter.
As soon as we shut down this podcast, I am
running to the to the next podcast that would take
me and just blowing this thing up.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
You're unusual because you've been at Z one hundred pretty
much your entire work life. It's been your only job,
so you don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I went from the lifeguard stand to the radio stand.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Look at that, that's pretty great. I've had lots of
different jobs, and I've got to admit several of them
have been on TV or around TV, and I do
find TV in general quite a tough environment, right Like,
I think it's much tougher than print, magazine work, newspaper work,
radio work. TV is a really rough So I would
(07:03):
argue here, and I'm not saying this is a good thing.
I'm not justifying it, but I would argue here that
most TV shows are toxic. Unfortunately, They're really are high pressure.
There's lots of drama, there's lots of personalities. We've seen
the morning shd day every day. There's drama, there's pressure
to beat your competitor. There's lots of push. Kelly's show
(07:26):
that's new, it might not have survived. A lot of
new shows don't survive. I've been on there's competition for guests,
this competition for ratings, there's competition between the staff to
try to outwork each other. And so I've been on
TV shows where it's a lot of pressure. So maybe
the people on this show have not experienced to other shows,
(07:48):
and once they start doing that, they'll realize that maybe
the TV business isn't for them.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Right, or they realize just like a jilted lover that
just dumps you right away and tries to see if
the grass is greener on the other side, Kelly, are
you still open to that idea of moving to New York?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Would you?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
If you were Kelly now, would you make sure everybody
that wanted to move to New York did? How do
you fix this?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
But you know what I mean, You can't put it
all on Kelly Clarkson. That like, given her names on
the show doesn't mean she looks over every nook and cranny.
That's why you have executive producers and associate producers and
senior producers and senior this and senior like. There's so
many people here. The whole point of having those big
(08:34):
titles in your job description is to alleviate any stress
on Kelly. Kelly's job is to do the show and
just be and to be a great host. Everything else
is on everyone else that gets a paycheck from it.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
It is it is, But is her name? People that
work in senior positions for me. I remind them all
the time that they represent me. It's my name that's
on pretty much everything. Some such a.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Narcissist, right, Well, you know you are. I mean I
did turn around once and your name is on my
shirt and I go back how that worked.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
But I do like to put my names on things.
But these people I hire, they do represent me. And
so this leads us beautifully to our pole question of
the day. Kelly Clarkson is addressing a reported allegations about
a toxic work culture at her talk show. Is Kelly
ultimately responsible? It's her name that's on this stuff. It's
(09:27):
the Kelly Clarkson Show. Does the buck stop with her?
It's a tough question, isn't it. Hey, go vote on
our Twitter page. I'd not too nice, rob Facebook page
is naughty gossip. I'll be sure to check back tomorrow
to hear your results. Hey, Garrett, what are you working on?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
All? Right? Well, since we can't afford tickets to tell
her soft, let's talk about her. So over the weekend
she had big shows. It's so smart. Taylorshift does this
brilliant thing where she only works three days a week
pretty much. She rolls into town on a Friday, reforms
on a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, and she took She
took the Ears Tour Era's tour to Philadelphia over the
(10:06):
weekend at Lincoln Financial, sold out crowd three nights. The
Swifties were crazy, and you know, just having a ticket
to sold out show and knowing that no one else
has that ticket, you're excited for it. So during during
the marathon of anthems of Taylor Swift songs, she got
to bad Blood. Everybody knows it. Everybody goes crazy. It's
(10:28):
probably one of the crescendos of the of the show,
and fans started coming up to the stage where there
was a barricade the stage. It's huge, it takes up
the whole football stadium. And Taylor noticed that some of
the security guards were kind of like pushing back on
the fans that were trying to get as close as possible.
And during the song. It takes a lot for Taylor
Swift to notice something in a freaking stadium. She tells
(10:50):
the security guard, hey, stop during the song, like, so
there's dancing going on there, there's people playing. Taylor Swift
stops the whole thing and says, stop didn't do anything.
Security guards were getting a little little frisky. And let's
be honest, Philadelphia, they are a little rough at Philly.
Well not even that rob Shoot. Let me tell you
about the stadium. The fans in Philadelphia, they are they
(11:13):
are crazy, They're passionate. They once threw batteries at Santa
claus And during a football game. It's it's a whole
big thing. But Taylor noticed she was looking out for
the fans. And the great thing is you're at a
Taylor Swift show, so you're on camera no matter where
you are from from the actual stage itself down to
the fan that's sitting up in the nosebleed. There is
a camera angle for everything. So of course Twitter has
(11:34):
every single angle of it. And I'm surprised they haven't
found the security guard yet and really given it to them.
But yeah, Taylor pretty much says said hey see you later. Uh.
And of course the security guard for their own safety,
not for their for their wrongdoing, for their own safety
from the Swifties and Taylor. They were escorted out of
the building and Taylor's fans even said on Twitter, you
(11:56):
know you did something wrong. If Taylor Swift does to
stop her and call you out on something.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's a judgment, isn't it. It's a judgment call. When
are you acting up too much? Like I get it.
I've been to concerts. I've screamed, I've shouted, I've jumped
up and done I've probably been very annoying to the people.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Because I said a Barry Manilow show, I.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Love bar I love Barray. And it's so interesting. At
what point is it unacceptable? And I personally feel here,
if you're rushing against the barricade that you're not meant
to be rushing towards it's the security guard's jump to
say sit down, calm down, Like but have.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
You seen the video so so the way you described it,
you would think, yes, that's the way to act. The
security guard versus a little kid, pretty much a teenager.
You would think that this teenager is you know, a
big football player ready to yeah, you know, four hundred
pounds and they're holding them back from Taylor Swift getting rushed.
(12:53):
Not the case like that. That's the problem. It's just
like the previous story with Kelly Clarkson, It's about how
you handle the situation, not not how you react to it.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I think Taylor did the right thing here. If you're
on stage, it's your show. You're the boss, it's your
show now. Taylor, though, didn't blame anybody else. She took responsibility.
So it's really interesting. So it goes back to Kelly Clarkson.
You've got to take responsibility when something happens and you're
the boss, it's your problem. And I loved that Taylor
(13:23):
almost stopped her show like she carried on singing. I've
got a video up on Lordy Gossip of Taylor's reaction.
I'll find the video of what happened with the security
guard and the fan. But it's fascinating. I love that
Taylor did this. She should be the nicest of the day. Okay, quickly,
before we get a break, we have some breaking news.
Charles and Harry spoke the night before the coronation. Harry,
(13:47):
so they did talk. If you remember, Harry was in
town for just I think twenty eight hours. We counted
the hours. He arrived the night before the coronation, He
went to the coronation on Saturday, then he went to
Buckingham Palace, literally changed clothes and left for the airport.
A royal expert in London is saying that it is
(14:07):
quote my understanding that Harry didn't have any interactions with
the Prince or Princess of Wales, but he did have
a conversation with his father the night before. Sources close
to Charles are saying Charles hoped he would stick around
but understood that he had to rush back to LA
to see his little son Archie. It was his birthday.
So a lot of understanding here. But they did talk
(14:30):
the night before. This is a very very good sign
because our reporting really up to this moment was they
had almost no interaction, or if in fact none, that's
not true. They did speak.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I just I feel like Charles did it as a checkmate,
no pun intended where you know what I mean? Like
by him going please stay, you well know that your
grandson is turning what for back home back in LA
and you're going to put your son in that awkward
position of missing your son's birthday or staying for that.
(15:02):
Like again, it goes back to what we talked about.
You knew that your son, your grandson's birthday was when.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
It did this, that's all the day and that's set
in stone.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It's a day.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
You know, we can't change Christmas, you can't change Thanksgiving,
you can't change Garrett's birthday. Okay, we're going to take
a quick break here because we can't change that, and
we will be right back. Welcome back to the Naughty
but Nice you remember shoot with her Different Garrett Vogel. Hey, Garrett,
let's get to the polls that the Here we go,
(15:31):
Thank you very much, Darling. Last show, we talked about
the video that's really blowing up online. It's Ben Affleck
slamming the car door behind his wife Jennifer Lopez. We
ad this. We asked, is this a bad sign? Let's
have a look eighty percent of you so this is
a bad sign. Not first, before I watched the video,
I thought it was just like, oh, it's a bit weird.
(15:52):
But he always looks so grumpy.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
You know why, because because the photos that were looking
at he's mad at the on the other side of
taking the photos and you know what, brilliant on them
for the sake of we know how to piss off.
And look, we're talking about it like he's he's pissed
off at Jennifer. You know what I mean? No one's
going he's mad because you're literally photographing him like walking,
(16:16):
like you give the man some space. And yes, it's
a part of the job.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
When you marry Jennifer Lopez there, I was there around one,
so I was with Jennifer and Ben when they were
together the first time. And the amount of press and
attention she gets, you can't really change that, so you
know what you're getting. Ben. Put on a smile, sweetie.
If you want these stories to go away, maybe he
doesn't care, but if you're listening, Aloe, and if you
want them to go away, a little smile.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
And Ben, I'm sorry, Team Ben here.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
When you close the door, Garrett, I hope you're listening
when you close the door. First of all, do you
open your car door for your wife?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Most times, when we're not arguing like Ben and Jennifer.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Are, when the photographers are not following you. Okay, let's
do a noisiest of the We finally have some good
news about Jamie Fox.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
See and this kind of goes back to what we
were just talking about about with the pole question with
Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck, where Jamie Fox has been
out of the hospital for weeks. According to his daughter. Now,
the stories are, if you've been reading the Internet or
just scrolling on your phone, that Jamie Fox's dire need
and needs our prayers and and this and that, and
his daughter's like enough already, he's been playing pickleball. He's out,
(17:26):
he's recovering, he's he's doing okay, he's he's not on
his deathbed. So it's so interesting where you just take
one story on the Internet, but not at Noddy Gossip,
because that's nothing but the true and and you and
you and people run with it and and it's it's
a very sick game of like a snowball avalanche where
(17:47):
the slightest little thing, Jamie Fox is still in the hospital,
and it turns into this, did you hear Jamie Fox
has no legs? You know, Like it's it's so weird.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Right, we get character with it. I mean, I hope,
I hope all this is true. And I think the
best thing if you these stories to go away is
to let us see him. He doesn't know us anything,
but I've made a video for TikTok or if he
made a little speech, we'd love to hear that he's
okay a little He's already I think put something on Instagram.
We didn't see him where he said, thank you for
all your prayers and your thoughts, but I'd love to
(18:17):
love to see him this This story is still such
a strange story, but the update is something that we're
thrilled to hear. Our nicest of the day and now
a naughtice the day. Naughty, naughty, naughty. Apparently the knives
are out for Prince Andrew as the King demands that
he'd leave his Windsor home.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So beheading or like right off the case, like you say,
the knives are out Prince Andrew, and then you go,
oh to leave Windsor, And I'm like, okay, was going.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
He's a bad guy, Prince Andrew, but he's shameless and
he's refusing to leave the Royal Lodge. The Royal Lodge
is on the ninety eight acre Windsor property, so Windsor
the Castle of Windsor. It's enormous and there's lots of
homes on there, including one where the Duke lives. However,
(19:06):
he has to pay the upkeep of this home, and
Charles has now cut his almost two hundred and fifty
thousands he earns every year, so instead of throwing him
on the street. Here, don't get worried. They're going to
move him into a smaller palace, but he's refusing to leave.
He's a smart and naughtiest robb You get a Robbie,
(19:28):
get a rob. Doing the best at this difficult moment
will put you in the best place for the next
wonderful moment. If you're going through a hard time today,
a lot of us are, remember that this is setting
us up so that when a good time comes, we
are in the best place for that. Life is a journey.
(19:51):
We are on a marathon. I like to think of
life as a bridge and sometimes you've got a crossover,
pass by some things that are not that great to
get to the end of the rainbow. Hey, that is
it for today. Thank you so much for listening to
The Naughty Went Nice with Rob and Garrett Show, a
production of iHeartRadio. Don't forget to subscribe on the iHeartRadio
(20:12):
app Apple podcast wherever you listen, and remember altogether. Now,
if you're going to be naughty, we got to be nice.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Take care of his It's not even nice with ro
Advice shooters.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
No, welcome to the Naughty Beani Show. I'm your host,
Drubs Shooter. It's Monday, which means our dear friend, Garrett
Vogel joins us. Hey, Garrett, are.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You there, Robert? You're ready for this rob shooter? All right,
So we're on a zoom room right now and we're
recording the show, and uh, your camera's off. So I
only like to believe that you are either your makeup's
not on, or you are in the nude.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Look at that. My cameras on.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You are you will receive. You are like the great
and parafule eyes coming out from beyond the curtain, going, aha,
you are wrong. I am here, greeting friend.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Look at that. I'm here.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I forgot to hit my camera. Ah, that's why we
were a little bit late starting. You didn't see my
face pop up.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah. I was sitting there and going, you know, like
you're in the waiting room at the doctor's office and
you're just like flipping through magazines, and you know, time
goes by and it's like, well, maybe maybe the doctor
forgot about me. And then you're like, you know what,
I'm just going to go up to the front desk
and ask them if he's still.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Excuse me, excuse me, I'm here too much longer. They're like,
you can sit back down. We know you're here. I know,
I know, I know. Okay, let's jump into the show.
I've got too so much gossip about one of your
favorite people in the whole wide world, Garret, I don't
know your favorite celebrity. What time is it? My friends,
so this tea time. This story was kind of shocking.
So over the weekend a massive story blew up that
Kelly Clarkson Show, not Kelly Clarkson, but the show was
(01:38):
an alleged toxic work environment at Toxic work Culture. Kelly's
finally addressing this, she put out a statement on Instagram
she doesn't miss about when she sees there's a problem.
A lot of celebrities, including Ellen, when this happened to her,
sort of disappeared for a little bit too long. Kelly
was right out, and she said quote to find out
(01:58):
that anybody is feeling unheard or disrespected on the show
is unacceptable. I have always been and will continue to
be committed to creating and maintaining a safe and healthy
environment at the Kelly Clarkson Show. Just a little bit
of background here. So Rolling Stone, very reputable, put our
(02:21):
report on Friday that eleven current and former employees of
the show had made complaints about being overworked and underpaid,
and they went on to say that the work environment
was toxic. They did add, though, which I thought was
so interesting and very unusual on these type of stories,
that Kelly was great. They had no complaint with her.
(02:41):
It was all the other people on the show. Yes,
her name is on the door of the show, but
they didn't think she knew and if she was guilty
of anything, it was being in a little bubble where
very few people on the show actually really got to
talk to her, and so she wasn't aware of how
bad things actually are.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
All Right, Yes, I will take the side of Kelly
Clarkson no matter what she does in life. But yes,
it does suck to hear that. Now here's here's me
looking past page one of the headlines. The show is
moving from LA to New York, and it just so
happens that this story is coming out just as people
are unfortunately losing their jobs. So it was either probably
(03:21):
a hey, we're moving, or a jealous jealous x you know,
a jilted lover when you know, you break up with
someone and then all of a sudden they love you
up until the moment like you guys separate and then
all of a sudden was like, oh, well you have
bad breath. Then I've just I've held that in for
so long, and i just didn't have the heart to
tell you, like like you've been working there for so long,
(03:43):
and then all of a sudden, this expose comes out. You.
You obviously go to Rolling Stone and say, hey, these
are the these are the conditions I'm working in. But
yet you still stay there just as the show's moving,
and and maybe you didn't get the opportunity or were
given the opportunity to get up and move across the
country to New York. That's just me, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I'm in this business, so I'm in the gossip business,
so I know how these stories often happen, how they work.
It takes a massive event, something like a show moving
or somebody getting fired often for people to talk. And
so for instance, a lot of people have just been
fired from the Sherry Shepherd Show who have been with
Sherry now over a year. Those people are happy to
(04:25):
talk about their experience because they're not frightened of losing
their jobs anymore. So it's quite complicated here. So I
personally feel as if the momentous move moving to New
York has freed some people up to reveal the truth.
Their truth here right, eleven people is a lot of people.
If this was a few people who were angry or
(04:46):
a few people that had lost their joms. I mean,
we've all lost our jobs. How often have we run
to the press and made something up? I know I've
never done that.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
It's the entertainment business, though, you know what I mean?
And I think we've the other thing I I've seen too,
because we've both been around celebrities and all it takes
is one bad day or one whatever. You know. Given
they didn't knock Kelly Clarkson, but maybe they didn't have
they wanted to be closer to Kelly Clarkson, they didn't
get that access because of their job title, you know
(05:19):
what I mean. Like if you were if you were
a show runner, you're not hanging out with Kelly Clarkson
and the executive producers. You're grabbing coffee, you know what
I mean. If you are a producer, you're talking to
the guest. You're not hanging out with Kelly Clarkson specifically
in her inner circle of producers.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, I think you're onto something, But I do also
believe that we've all worked at jobs right where there
have been bad days, And then does that make that
job toxic? Just because you have one or two, or
three or four bad days, saying the whole year you
have twenty percent bad days and eighty percent good days?
(05:55):
Is the show toxic? Is your work environment toxic?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Like?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Where's the line? It's very completing. I try to make
sure as somebody that runs my own business, I'm the boss, right,
and so I make sure that every day were fair.
We try to do our best. There are days where
I'm not as happy as others. But I really think
about this. If I give somebody just one day of
attitude of making them feel bad about themselves, then in
(06:19):
my opinion, that's a toxic work environment.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And I shouldn't just wait till this show's over. I shooter.
As soon as we shut down this podcast, I am
running to the to the next podcast that would take
me and just blowing this thing up.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
You're unusual because you've been at Z one hundred pretty
much your entire work life. It's been your only job,
so you don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I went from the lifeguard stand to the radio stand.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Look at that, that's pretty great. I've had lots of
different jobs, and I've got to admit several of them
have been on TV or around TV, and I do
find TV in general quite a tough environment, right Like,
I think it's much tougher than print, magazine work, newspaper work,
radio work. TV is a really rough So I would
(07:03):
argue here, and I'm not saying this is a good thing.
I'm not justifying it, but I would argue here that
most TV shows are toxic. Unfortunately, They're really are high pressure.
There's lots of drama, there's lots of personalities. We've seen
the morning shd day every day. There's drama, there's pressure
to beat your competitor. There's lots of push. Kelly's show
(07:26):
that's new, it might not have survived. A lot of
new shows don't survive. I've been on there's competition for guests,
this competition for ratings, there's competition between the staff to
try to outwork each other. And so I've been on
TV shows where it's a lot of pressure. So maybe
the people on this show have not experienced to other shows,
(07:48):
and once they start doing that, they'll realize that maybe
the TV business isn't for them.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Right, or they realize just like a jilted lover that
just dumps you right away and tries to see if
the grass is greener on the other side, Kelly, are
you still open to that idea of moving to New York?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Would you?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
If you were Kelly now, would you make sure everybody
that wanted to move to New York did? How do
you fix this?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
But you know what I mean, You can't put it
all on Kelly Clarkson. That like, given her names on
the show doesn't mean she looks over every nook and cranny.
That's why you have executive producers and associate producers and
senior producers and senior this and senior like. There's so
many people here. The whole point of having those big
(08:34):
titles in your job description is to alleviate any stress
on Kelly. Kelly's job is to do the show and
just be and to be a great host. Everything else
is on everyone else that gets a paycheck from it.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
It is it is, But is her name? People that
work in senior positions for me. I remind them all
the time that they represent me. It's my name that's
on pretty much everything. Some such a.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Narcissist, right, Well, you know you are. I mean I
did turn around once and your name is on my
shirt and I go back how that worked.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
But I do like to put my names on things.
But these people I hire, they do represent me. And
so this leads us beautifully to our pole question of
the day. Kelly Clarkson is addressing a reported allegations about
a toxic work culture at her talk show. Is Kelly
ultimately responsible? It's her name that's on this stuff. It's
(09:27):
the Kelly Clarkson Show. Does the buck stop with her?
It's a tough question, isn't it. Hey, go vote on
our Twitter page. I'd not too nice, rob Facebook page
is naughty gossip. I'll be sure to check back tomorrow
to hear your results. Hey, Garrett, what are you working on?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
All? Right? Well, since we can't afford tickets to tell
her soft, let's talk about her. So over the weekend
she had big shows. It's so smart. Taylorshift does this
brilliant thing where she only works three days a week
pretty much. She rolls into town on a Friday, reforms
on a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, and she took She
took the Ears Tour Era's tour to Philadelphia over the
(10:06):
weekend at Lincoln Financial, sold out crowd three nights. The
Swifties were crazy, and you know, just having a ticket
to sold out show and knowing that no one else
has that ticket, you're excited for it. So during during
the marathon of anthems of Taylor Swift songs, she got
to bad Blood. Everybody knows it. Everybody goes crazy. It's
(10:28):
probably one of the crescendos of the of the show,
and fans started coming up to the stage where there
was a barricade the stage. It's huge, it takes up
the whole football stadium. And Taylor noticed that some of
the security guards were kind of like pushing back on
the fans that were trying to get as close as possible.
And during the song. It takes a lot for Taylor
Swift to notice something in a freaking stadium. She tells
(10:50):
the security guard, hey, stop during the song, like, so
there's dancing going on there, there's people playing. Taylor Swift
stops the whole thing and says, stop didn't do anything.
Security guards were getting a little little frisky. And let's
be honest, Philadelphia, they are a little rough at Philly.
Well not even that rob Shoot. Let me tell you
about the stadium. The fans in Philadelphia, they are they
(11:13):
are crazy, They're passionate. They once threw batteries at Santa
claus And during a football game. It's it's a whole
big thing. But Taylor noticed she was looking out for
the fans. And the great thing is you're at a
Taylor Swift show, so you're on camera no matter where
you are from from the actual stage itself down to
the fan that's sitting up in the nosebleed. There is
a camera angle for everything. So of course Twitter has
(11:34):
every single angle of it. And I'm surprised they haven't
found the security guard yet and really given it to them.
But yeah, Taylor pretty much says said hey see you later. Uh.
And of course the security guard for their own safety,
not for their for their wrongdoing, for their own safety
from the Swifties and Taylor. They were escorted out of
the building and Taylor's fans even said on Twitter, you
(11:56):
know you did something wrong. If Taylor Swift does to
stop her and call you out on something.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's a judgment, isn't it. It's a judgment call. When
are you acting up too much? Like I get it.
I've been to concerts. I've screamed, I've shouted, I've jumped
up and done I've probably been very annoying to the people.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Because I said a Barry Manilow show, I.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Love bar I love Barray. And it's so interesting. At
what point is it unacceptable? And I personally feel here,
if you're rushing against the barricade that you're not meant
to be rushing towards it's the security guard's jump to
say sit down, calm down, Like but have.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
You seen the video so so the way you described it,
you would think, yes, that's the way to act. The
security guard versus a little kid, pretty much a teenager.
You would think that this teenager is you know, a
big football player ready to yeah, you know, four hundred
pounds and they're holding them back from Taylor Swift getting rushed.
(12:53):
Not the case like that. That's the problem. It's just
like the previous story with Kelly Clarkson, It's about how
you handle the situation, not not how you react to it.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I think Taylor did the right thing here. If you're
on stage, it's your show. You're the boss, it's your
show now. Taylor, though, didn't blame anybody else. She took responsibility.
So it's really interesting. So it goes back to Kelly Clarkson.
You've got to take responsibility when something happens and you're
the boss, it's your problem. And I loved that Taylor
(13:23):
almost stopped her show like she carried on singing. I've
got a video up on Lordy Gossip of Taylor's reaction.
I'll find the video of what happened with the security
guard and the fan. But it's fascinating. I love that
Taylor did this. She should be the nicest of the day. Okay, quickly,
before we get a break, we have some breaking news.
Charles and Harry spoke the night before the coronation. Harry,
(13:47):
so they did talk. If you remember, Harry was in
town for just I think twenty eight hours. We counted
the hours. He arrived the night before the coronation, He
went to the coronation on Saturday, then he went to
Buckingham Palace, literally changed clothes and left for the airport.
A royal expert in London is saying that it is
(14:07):
quote my understanding that Harry didn't have any interactions with
the Prince or Princess of Wales, but he did have
a conversation with his father the night before. Sources close
to Charles are saying Charles hoped he would stick around
but understood that he had to rush back to LA
to see his little son Archie. It was his birthday.
So a lot of understanding here. But they did talk
(14:30):
the night before. This is a very very good sign
because our reporting really up to this moment was they
had almost no interaction, or if in fact none, that's
not true. They did speak.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I just I feel like Charles did it as a checkmate,
no pun intended where you know what I mean? Like
by him going please stay, you well know that your
grandson is turning what for back home back in LA
and you're going to put your son in that awkward
position of missing your son's birthday or staying for that.
(15:02):
Like again, it goes back to what we talked about.
You knew that your son, your grandson's birthday was when.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
It did this, that's all the day and that's set
in stone.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It's a day.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
You know, we can't change Christmas, you can't change Thanksgiving,
you can't change Garrett's birthday. Okay, we're going to take
a quick break here because we can't change that, and
we will be right back. Welcome back to the Naughty
but Nice you remember shoot with her Different Garrett Vogel. Hey, Garrett,
let's get to the polls that the Here we go,
(15:31):
Thank you very much, Darling. Last show, we talked about
the video that's really blowing up online. It's Ben Affleck
slamming the car door behind his wife Jennifer Lopez. We
ad this. We asked, is this a bad sign? Let's
have a look eighty percent of you so this is
a bad sign. Not first, before I watched the video,
I thought it was just like, oh, it's a bit weird.
(15:52):
But he always looks so grumpy.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
You know why, because because the photos that were looking
at he's mad at the on the other side of
taking the photos and you know what, brilliant on them
for the sake of we know how to piss off.
And look, we're talking about it like he's he's pissed
off at Jennifer. You know what I mean? No one's
going he's mad because you're literally photographing him like walking,
(16:16):
like you give the man some space. And yes, it's
a part of the job.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
When you marry Jennifer Lopez there, I was there around one,
so I was with Jennifer and Ben when they were
together the first time. And the amount of press and
attention she gets, you can't really change that, so you
know what you're getting. Ben. Put on a smile, sweetie.
If you want these stories to go away, maybe he
doesn't care, but if you're listening, Aloe, and if you
want them to go away, a little smile.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
And Ben, I'm sorry, Team Ben here.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
When you close the door, Garrett, I hope you're listening
when you close the door. First of all, do you
open your car door for your wife?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Most times, when we're not arguing like Ben and Jennifer.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Are, when the photographers are not following you. Okay, let's
do a noisiest of the We finally have some good
news about Jamie Fox.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
See and this kind of goes back to what we
were just talking about about with the pole question with
Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck, where Jamie Fox has been
out of the hospital for weeks. According to his daughter. Now,
the stories are, if you've been reading the Internet or
just scrolling on your phone, that Jamie Fox's dire need
and needs our prayers and and this and that, and
his daughter's like enough already, he's been playing pickleball. He's out,
(17:26):
he's recovering, he's he's doing okay, he's he's not on
his deathbed. So it's so interesting where you just take
one story on the Internet, but not at Noddy Gossip,
because that's nothing but the true and and you and
you and people run with it and and it's it's
a very sick game of like a snowball avalanche where
(17:47):
the slightest little thing, Jamie Fox is still in the hospital,
and it turns into this, did you hear Jamie Fox
has no legs? You know, Like it's it's so weird.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Right, we get character with it. I mean, I hope,
I hope all this is true. And I think the
best thing if you these stories to go away is
to let us see him. He doesn't know us anything,
but I've made a video for TikTok or if he
made a little speech, we'd love to hear that he's
okay a little He's already I think put something on Instagram.
We didn't see him where he said, thank you for
all your prayers and your thoughts, but I'd love to
(18:17):
love to see him this This story is still such
a strange story, but the update is something that we're
thrilled to hear. Our nicest of the day and now
a naughtice the day. Naughty, naughty, naughty. Apparently the knives
are out for Prince Andrew as the King demands that
he'd leave his Windsor home.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So beheading or like right off the case, like you say,
the knives are out Prince Andrew, and then you go,
oh to leave Windsor, And I'm like, okay, was going.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
He's a bad guy, Prince Andrew, but he's shameless and
he's refusing to leave the Royal Lodge. The Royal Lodge
is on the ninety eight acre Windsor property, so Windsor
the Castle of Windsor. It's enormous and there's lots of
homes on there, including one where the Duke lives. However,
(19:06):
he has to pay the upkeep of this home, and
Charles has now cut his almost two hundred and fifty
thousands he earns every year, so instead of throwing him
on the street. Here, don't get worried. They're going to
move him into a smaller palace, but he's refusing to leave.
He's a smart and naughtiest robb You get a Robbie,
(19:28):
get a rob. Doing the best at this difficult moment
will put you in the best place for the next
wonderful moment. If you're going through a hard time today,
a lot of us are, remember that this is setting
us up so that when a good time comes, we
are in the best place for that. Life is a journey.
(19:51):
We are on a marathon. I like to think of
life as a bridge and sometimes you've got a crossover,
pass by some things that are not that great to
get to the end of the rainbow. Hey, that is
it for today. Thank you so much for listening to
The Naughty Went Nice with Rob and Garrett Show, a
production of iHeartRadio. Don't forget to subscribe on the iHeartRadio
(20:12):
app Apple podcast wherever you listen, and remember altogether. Now,
if you're going to be naughty, we got to be nice.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Take care of his It's not even nice with ro
Host
Rob Shuter
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Therapy Gecko
An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.